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The Best Man 101 · We Talk Back

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  Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who
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  Speaker 1: talk back.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, y'all? Welcome to a new episode of We
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  Speaker 2: Talk Back, a show dedicated to you niggas and these hoes, okay?
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  Speaker 2: And everybody else in between is your co-host, AJ Holiday.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, Tam?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, boo. Hey, y'all. Happy New Year. It's me, Tam,
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  Speaker 3: baring my throat. You have fun?
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 3: I went to a basketball game last night. I was screaming.
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  Speaker 3: LeBron was out there whooping our ass.
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  Speaker 2: Shame. I was like, stop, LeBron. Stop that nigga.
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  Speaker 3: You couldn't hold him.
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  Speaker 2: I never seen LeBron. No, I have seen LeBron play.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember when, but I have seen him. Might
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  Speaker 2: have been in Charlotte a while ago.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody was at the game last night.
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  Speaker 2: Who you seen? Who you seen?
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  Speaker 1: I seen the baby was at courtside. I was I
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  Speaker 1: went course out y'all I couldn't afford them tickets last
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  Speaker 1: night I was in the suite I didn't really that's
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  Speaker 1: the only person I saw that was celebrity I wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Paying much attention honestly.
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  Speaker 1: But it was packed and the nosebleed seats was $ 110
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  Speaker 1: right up on the against the.
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  Speaker 2: Wall shame damn that's crazy luckily you ain't gotta pay
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  Speaker 2: for no tickets you.
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  Speaker 3: Know right exactly I ain't paid for a game ticket yet.
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  Speaker 1: God came over me this morning and I have a
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  Speaker 1: message for everybody listening. I don't know who needed to
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  Speaker 1: hear this, but clean your makeup brushes, ladies. Some of
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  Speaker 1: y'all ain't cleaned y'all makeup brushes since before the pandemic.
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  Speaker 1: Go get your makeup brushes and clean them this week
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  Speaker 1: in the name.
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  Speaker 2: Of Jesus, okay?
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  Speaker 3: Amen.
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  Speaker 2: They wonder why they got acne you ain't changed your
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  Speaker 2: pillowcases you ain't changed your pillows you know right pillows
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  Speaker 2: be heavy as hell with all them skin cells in
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  Speaker 2: there throw them damn pillows out for the new year
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  Speaker 2: and wash your brushes yes change your mattress cover just
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  Speaker 2: do all the things we doing all the things 2023
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  Speaker 2: right okay so How was your weekend aside from that?
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  Speaker 3: Crazy. I've been manifesting it. I was like, I haven't
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  Speaker 3: been to no games this season.
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  Speaker 1: This week, I went to literally three games in seven days.
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  Speaker 3: So on New Year's Eve, I went to another game.
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  Speaker 1: I can't even remember who we played. Went to the game.
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  Speaker 1: And everybody was hanging out after the game. But I
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  Speaker 1: came home.
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  Speaker 3: I came home.
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  Speaker 1: So they do the Charlotte celebration right on the side
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  Speaker 1: of my building. so where the queen crown goes in
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  Speaker 1: the sky at midnight it's literally right I can see
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  Speaker 1: it from outside my patio so I just went on
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  Speaker 1: my patio and watched the festivities and listened to the
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  Speaker 1: music and baby they did the firework show bitch I
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  Speaker 1: thought that shit was coming in my house it was
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  Speaker 1: so intense I was out there screaming from the top
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  Speaker 1: of my lungs.
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  Speaker 3: I had to run in the house I was scared
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  Speaker 3: but it was a good time and I just brought
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  Speaker 3: it in by myself what about you? Oh, hold on.
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  Speaker 2: I want to say, did you know that Charlotte is
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  Speaker 2: named after a black woman? Queen Charlotte of Mecklenburg. Just
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  Speaker 2: in case y'all ain't know. Royals in the South. So
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  Speaker 2: I had like a little house party I went to.
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  Speaker 2: One of my friends, I helped her plan a house
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  Speaker 2: party on Friday for her birthday. So that was really nice.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of karaoke.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I take my mic everywhere. So I was
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  Speaker 2: fucking entertaining. Bitch, now I'm feeling under the weather. Excuse me.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all, this bitch really be carrying a karaoke mic just
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  Speaker 1: randomly with her.
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  Speaker 2: Cutting up, bitch. Big wheels keep on turning. Proud Mary, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever I feel like, I'm going to do it. I'm
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  Speaker 2: an entertainer, okay? New Year's Eve was Saturday. I hung
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  Speaker 2: out with a friend, okay? We ate oysters and had
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  Speaker 2: a shakuchi board.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all ate oysters like he ate your oyster.
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  Speaker 2: Both of them for the new year. Happy new year.
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  Speaker 2: One of my resolutions, not even a resolution, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what? For the first three months of 2023,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not having sex.
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  Speaker 3: And then fuck into this new year.
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  Speaker 2: But that's it. Okay. That's it for the new year.
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  Speaker 3: You're not having sex no more?
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  Speaker 2: No, for three months. I'm going to really try to
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's good.
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  Speaker 2: And look, that takes us into our stupid internet news.
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  Speaker 3: What are the sins of this week?
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  Speaker 2: So, just the one thing I think that associates with
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  Speaker 2: me not having sex, hopefully. I'm going to try real
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  Speaker 2: fucking hard. But I saw Taraji P. Henson. She did
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  Speaker 2: an interview with... Angie Martinez this week and she was
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  Speaker 2: saying how she hadn't been happy in a long time
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  Speaker 2: and I was like you know what one of my
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  Speaker 2: I feel like one of my resolutions for last year
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to be like when somebody asked me like
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  Speaker 2: hey girl AJ how you doing I want to be
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  Speaker 2: able to say girl you know I'm the happiest I've
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  Speaker 2: ever been I've never been able to do that so
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  Speaker 2: just yesterday I was saying how I wanted to like
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  Speaker 2: plan a trip go someplace for a month by myself
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? So Taraji P. Henson was
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  Speaker 2: saying how important mental health is and being happy and
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  Speaker 2: nobody outside of you can make you happy. So she
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  Speaker 2: was saying how she's going to go to Bali for
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  Speaker 2: a month by herself. And I'm like, damn, that's confirmation
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  Speaker 2: for me. That's what I need to be doing to
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  Speaker 2: get me together.
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  Speaker 3: Do you feel like you're not happy?
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  Speaker 2: Not like ultimate happy. No.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that most people fluctuate, you know, but
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  Speaker 2: I just want to be like all around happy, good
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  Speaker 2: mental health. No, I can't say that that's me throughout
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  Speaker 2: the entire year.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think nobody is ultimate happy all year long.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's possible though. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: Ultimate happy?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's possible because, you know, like when they
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  Speaker 2: be like, oh, do the work. Like the work has
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  Speaker 2: an end date. You shouldn't always be having to do
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  Speaker 2: the work your whole life. Do you see what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: So at some point, there has to be.
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  Speaker 3: You mean completely healed from everything? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: It has to be.
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  Speaker 3: You be 65 by the time you completely healed.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to be like that, though. I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm happier than... I feel like... Pandemic,
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  Speaker 3: I was tormented.
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  Speaker 2: I was really good at pandemic.
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  Speaker 3: This nigga. That's the weird part. This nigga was tormenting me.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't him.
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  Speaker 1: It was just my life choices that I was tormented by.
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  Speaker 3: But now I feel free, baby. I feel good out here.
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  Speaker 2: I just feel like there's some things I want to
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  Speaker 2: do top of this year. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: I think that'll really kick it off to make sure
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  Speaker 2: I reach all my goals this year. That's all. Some
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  Speaker 2: little solitude.
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  Speaker 1: I think I somehow got to a place where the
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  Speaker 1: opinions of others just stopped mattering at all to me.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good place, bitch. Especially in this industry. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it feels so good. You know that Dookie story? I
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  Speaker 1: was in my feelings for like two.
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  Speaker 3: Minutes about it, and then it was like, I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: People got worse, like, embarrassing sexual moments than that. The fuck?
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  Speaker 2: I got a few worse ones than that shit.
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  Speaker 1: All right, what else happened in our stupid internet news?
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  Speaker 2: Well, this really isn't stupid internet news. So yesterday, and
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  Speaker 2: I actually was watching... the football game when this happened.
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  Speaker 2: And then I started seeing people tweeting like, damn, did
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  Speaker 2: I just watch somebody die on the field? But he
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  Speaker 2: did not pass. But right now, DeMar Hamlin, he is
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  Speaker 2: in intensive care after having basically a heart attack last
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  Speaker 2: night after tackling somebody on the field.
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and Cincinnati Bengals game, if y'all missed it.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, it just brings up the conversation because
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  Speaker 1: maybe he had a heart condition already and we didn't
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  Speaker 1: know about it. But what type of testing are they
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  Speaker 1: doing on these young men to make sure that they're
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  Speaker 1: healthy enough to play in this game? And is this
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  Speaker 1: game really a safe game? You think about CTE, things
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  Speaker 1: like that, and all the concussions and brain damage and
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  Speaker 1: things like that that happen with, you know, this sport
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  Speaker 1: and It's just, it's a sad chain of events. I
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  Speaker 1: would not want my son, if I had a son,
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  Speaker 1: I would not want him to play football. I would
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  Speaker 1: want him to learn how to play baseball.
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  Speaker 2: I actually love football. I don't like any other sport
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  Speaker 2: like that. I like football. I like contact sports for
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  Speaker 2: the most part. And a lot of the times, like,
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  Speaker 2: that should be these boys' lives. A lot of these
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  Speaker 2: guys are playing football from little kids.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I get it. Elementary on up.
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  Speaker 2: Elementary to the pros. So their body's definitely going through
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  Speaker 2: a lot. You know, I would like to think that
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  Speaker 2: they have medical, where they have to do some type
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  Speaker 2: of rigorous testing to make sure these players are healthy enough.
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  Speaker 2: But we see what happened with Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown
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  Speaker 2: said he was hurt. That game we saw him while out,
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  Speaker 2: his last game, he said he was hurt and forced
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  Speaker 2: to play. I believe him because, you know, the saying,
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  Speaker 2: they call them like $ 40 million slaves. And then in
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  Speaker 2: the football, in NFL, they don't have guaranteed contracts.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So you out there smashing your body up and your
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  Speaker 2: career could be over in a blink of an eye.
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  Speaker 2: And I know during COVID they were forcing, you know,
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  Speaker 2: all these players to get vaccinated. A lot of them
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  Speaker 2: got caught with fake vaccination cards, but majority of them
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  Speaker 2: are vaccinated. And one of the things that's being found
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  Speaker 2: with all the different, you know, the Pfizer, the Moderna
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  Speaker 2: is myocarditis. Myocarditis is like a heart condition and it's
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  Speaker 2: been affecting people Men specifically, teenage men up to like 40s,
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  Speaker 2: in the early 40s. And that's one of the leading
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  Speaker 2: causes of cardiac arrest. So that's something they need to
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  Speaker 2: dive into too. Another football player died today at home.
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  Speaker 2: A former football player, 38 years old, dropped dead from
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  Speaker 2: a heart attack at home in his bedroom today. Damn.
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  Speaker 2: So people are dropping dead. We're not living as long
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  Speaker 2: as we think right now.
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  Speaker 1: Today, y'all, this is recorded on Tuesday, so by the
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  Speaker 1: time you hear it, it won't be today anymore, but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I don't want, I wouldn't want my
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  Speaker 1: son to play football. As much as I do enjoy
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  Speaker 1: the sport, because I do enjoy, it's intense and it's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a good time to see. It's just very
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  Speaker 1: scary and, you know, I hope that this young man
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  Speaker 1: makes a full recovery and I'm sure he's not going
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  Speaker 1: to play football anymore after that, but As long as
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  Speaker 1: he got his life, you know. So, y'all, lift him
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  Speaker 1: up in prayer. Let's all lift him up, you know.
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  Speaker 1: The voice of many to the Lord, he hears us. So,
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  Speaker 1: y'all pray for my boy.
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  Speaker 2: I guess, you know, questioning Skip Bayless' tweet from last
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  Speaker 2: night because he says, no doubt the NFL is considering
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  Speaker 2: postponing the rest of this game. It took them an
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  Speaker 2: hour to postpone the game, y'all. So, and he says
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  Speaker 2: this late in the season, a game of this magnitude
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  Speaker 2: is crucial to the regular season outcome, which suddenly seems
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  Speaker 2: so irrelevant. It is irrelevant.
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  Speaker 3: It's very fucking irrelevant.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So he came back. Make it work. Right. He
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  Speaker 2: came back and said that people misinterpreted his tweet, but
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  Speaker 2: that's the problem with text. Okay. You leave it to
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  Speaker 2: your reader to interpret your demeanor and context if they
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  Speaker 2: can't hear you. So.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Stop fucking tweeting. If you don't got nothing straight, clear,
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  Speaker 2: dry to say, don't say it.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard.
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  Speaker 1: Because I know I done fell out with bitches and
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  Speaker 1: niggas about a text that I meant something totally different
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  Speaker 1: that was received.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So I can get that. I call.
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  Speaker 2: If I feel like you misinterpreted some shit I'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to call. Yeah. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: You done called me before because me and you done
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  Speaker 1: went back and forth in some text messages.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because your ass is passive aggressive. Let's be clear. Very. Bitch,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not. I'm very direct. Okay, let's talk so
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  Speaker 2: you can hear me. So you can hear how I
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  Speaker 2: really mean. Okay. Y'all, Tammy ass be real nice nasty, okay?
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  Speaker 2: Her ass will say some real mean shit nicely. It
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  Speaker 2: could be a text or verbally. And I be yelling
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  Speaker 2: at the top of my motherfucking lungs.
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  Speaker 3: Me and y'all, we be out here laughing, but me
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  Speaker 3: and this bitch be going at it sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: We really be going at it sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: But it's out of love.
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  Speaker 2: I love you nonetheless. Shit, I argue with no other bitch.
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  Speaker 3: Period.
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  Speaker 2: But listen, sadly, in this one, me and Gangsta Boo
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  Speaker 2: follow each other on Twitter. She passed away yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Over the weekend. On New Year's Day.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't it on New Year's Day she passed away?
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  Speaker 2: And they're saying it's another fentanyl death or another overdose.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say overdose. But we know like right now that's
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  Speaker 2: the real epidemic. That's the real pandemic right now.
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  Speaker 1: We just said what we, I just said I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to leave that shit in 2022, but I.
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  Speaker 3: Knew it was going to come with us.
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  Speaker 2: And here we are. I hate that.
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  Speaker 1: I hate that shit. I really hate that shit.
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  Speaker 2: And here we are. So, you know, I just saw
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  Speaker 2: an article came out on Onsite said that she was
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  Speaker 2: just booted off of marriage boot camp because they apparently
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  Speaker 2: found a little small baggie in her and her husband's
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  Speaker 2: or her significant other's bedroom just, you know, just recently.
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  Speaker 2: And so now here it is. She's had a drug overdose.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they also said her brother. was in the
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  Speaker 2: hospital the day before she passed from a drug overdose.
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  Speaker 2: So they probably, you know, using the same drugs from
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  Speaker 2: the same source. And this shit is not fucking safe. But, like,
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  Speaker 2: you literally playing Russian roulette right now. You can't kick
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  Speaker 2: the coke.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know when your time going to be up
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  Speaker 2: at this point.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the thing. That's the thing about drugs. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it is addictive. It is addictive. So you know that
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  Speaker 1: there is a chance that I might have a bad batch.
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  Speaker 3: But you still chase it because you're addicted to this substance.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the scary part about it.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen this article. I follow like a lot of
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  Speaker 2: financial Instagram pages. So on, this is a business week.
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  Speaker 2: They have an article that says the golden age of
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  Speaker 2: cocaine is happening right now. They're saying there's more poppy
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  Speaker 2: fields than ever. There's more acreage of cocaine growing. It's
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  Speaker 2: being shipped more places in the world. What the fuck?
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  Speaker 3: So why they call it the golden age?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It says, we're living in a golden
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  Speaker 2: age of cocaine, said Toby Muse, the author of the
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  Speaker 2: 2020 book Kilo, inside the deadliest cocaine cartels who has
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  Speaker 2: been reporting on the Colombian drug trade for more than
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  Speaker 2: two decades. Cocaine is reaching corners of the planet that
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  Speaker 2: have never seen it before because there is so much
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  Speaker 2: of the drug. So we all watched Ozark. I know
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  Speaker 2: you watched that on Netflix. And you remember like, during
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  Speaker 2: that little season where they were cutting the cocaine with fentanyl.
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  Speaker 2: Like they're showing you and all these people were coming
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  Speaker 2: up dead. They're going to try to find these people.
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  Speaker 2: You get a lot of time if they find you.
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  Speaker 3: They need to find every last one of them, lock
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  Speaker 3: them up, because they done ruined cocaine. Yeah, it's wild.
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  Speaker 2: It's really wild. It's really wild. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That's something I would never try now.
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  Speaker 2: Never. Uh-uh, you said now. Were you considering it before? Bitch,
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  Speaker 2: I hate you. I hate you. Did you want to
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  Speaker 2: try it at some point?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe when I was younger, like college age, I thought
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 3: But I just seen.
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  Speaker 2: The.
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  Speaker 1: the ramifications of addiction, like firsthand in my life. So
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  Speaker 1: I was always like, nah, I'm cool.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I never, nothing ever crossed my mind. I say,
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  Speaker 2: you know what? One day I'm going to do some,
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  Speaker 2: a little, I just like a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I spend a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Of time around white people. No shade to y'all, but
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  Speaker 1: y'all be doing coke a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Period.
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  Speaker 1: And, and they be having fun. I remember one time
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  Speaker 1: we were at a club. This is when I was
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  Speaker 1: living in Florida. And, Black guy came up. Two white
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  Speaker 1: homegirls got them a little baggy. We all went to
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  Speaker 1: the bathroom. They was like, try it, Tamar.
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  Speaker 2: Try it.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, nah, I'm cool. I'm cool. Just do
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: a gummy. Just do a gummy. Just a little on
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: your gums. I was like, no, I'm cool. So I
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: didn't take any.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: They did their thing. Immediately, WWE in the bathroom. They're
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: wrestling all over. I mean, it was so much. It
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: was funny as.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Fuck, though. Like, they just started wrestling.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Were they actually fighting?
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: No, it was just.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I'm having fun.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: And I like to wrestle, so I was like, do
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I want to try it? But I was like.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Nah, I'm cool. I'm glad I don't have an addictive
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: personality now. I am addicted to fucking food, fresh baked
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: goods specifically, and people.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: But food kill more people than cocaine.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Just know that.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I eat good food. You know how picky I am
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: about food, so I'm going to be eating good now.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: But that's my damn problem.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Food.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: And people, because I let your ass linger a little
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: too fucking long.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Child, Lakeith Stanfield. So he apparently has a newborn baby
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: and also a new engagement. And the child's mother took
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: to social media to say, you know, she decided to
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: leave being someone's secret family in 2022. Meet Apollo Steinfeld. Yep.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Congratulations, Lakeith, on your new families.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Look, and he came to reinforce his engagement. Said, love
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: the holidays and spending time with family. Some really great
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: moments with loved ones. Beautiful time with my fiance. And
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the reinforcement of our bond in the midst of any
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: kind of climate. And I feel like this more, he
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: goes on to say some more shit, but not nothing.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Mean about his baby.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Yes. Like, how do you spend the holidays without a newborn?
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Right. Or even acknowledging the newborn in your post about family.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: That's so hurtful. And that baby going to see that
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: when they get old. Yes.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I have a problem. I don't particularly care for Lakeith Stanfield.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: He used to be on Clubhouse a lot. And you
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: get to really see people personalities. and also how he
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: was coming from my motherfucking brother, Charlamagne, before. Yeah, he
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: can kiss my whole ass, okay? So I really don't
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: particularly care for him. I think he's kind of weird,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: so you're weird for having a baby for him, but whatever.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: You knew. That's mean?
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's mean.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Congratulations to Keith Stanfield and his family and engagement.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: His families. His families. I wish him best of luck.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: And congratulations to the mother of a new child. What
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: a blessing to have. a baby. That's all I'm going
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: to say about that. I guess. Okay. So y'all spoiler alert.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: If you hadn't seen the best man series that just
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: came out, you might as well go watch it and
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: then come back and listen to this episode. Cause we
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: about to get into it all the way into it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I finally got AJ to sit down and watch some television.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: You know, she don't do that.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: So I got her to watch it and we're going
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: to discuss all the situations in that show.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: So come back, y'all. We'll be right back. We're back, guys.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: And now we're going to get into it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: So we're just going to discuss each character with their counterpart.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: And I just want to hear AJ views because she crazy.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of social issues. I feel like TV now,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: and even with comedy, they're cramming all social issues into,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: so this was eight episodes, but I've seen them cram
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: it into 15, I mean, hour, 15 minute comedy shows.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Can we just get, I don't need reality TV all
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: the time.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me neither. I don't need reality TV anytime.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: I don't like it no more.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: All right, so Shelby and Quentin. No, Shelby came back
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and got her man. Don't play with her. I was
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: here for all of that. If that's the nigga that
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: you love, you supposed to fight.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: For that shit. Fuck that bitch, Siamara. Siamara.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: That wasn't even real. That was fake and she saw
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: right through it. So she went there to get her
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: man and did.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess because she felt like he wasn't being
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: himself with this person, right? Like, that's my man. But
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: she realized she had two men. marriages, right, that he
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: had to sit through and watch publicly, you know. And
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you come crash, when this man finally finds somebody he
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: wants to be with, you come crash his wedding, essentially.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: You fuck him. And he has such an understanding fiance.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: That would be me. Like, oh, y'all would fuck every
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: once in a while. All right, cool. Don't get mad
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: when I do it, though.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: So if your husband, your fiance fucked his ex-girlfriend the
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: night before y'all wedding, At y'all wedding resort?
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm sensationalizing some things, right? So, of course not. Like, bitch,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: why you even here? What I mean just in life
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: in general. Like, if that's somebody you feel like you
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: need to be okay, maybe we can have a discussion
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: about it. That's all I'm saying.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. I'm here for Shelby doing
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: what she did, but if I was.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Shelby a hoe.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: If I was Ciamara... Shelby wasn't a hoe.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Shelby hit a whole kid and married two other niggas
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: from this man.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Now, that was wild that she hit the kid. That
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: part was kind of left field. Like, they could have
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: just left it at somebody.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Else, baby.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know why. The writing was weird with that.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Because they didn't have a whole storyline on that. It
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: should have been like a huge conversation about that. Therapy
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: and all kind of shit. You calling that, got that
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: baby calling him Uncle Daddy. That's wild to me.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: And he had to pretend like he was having a
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: heart attack. For her to call him daddy. He didn't.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: He wasn't pretending.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was pretending. Yeah, he thought he was having
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: a heart attack anyway.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he thought he was having another one. Yeah. But
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: what I was going to say is.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: That part was fake with Shelby marrying him there because Shelby,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: if she made it down that aisle, she would have
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: made it down with a black eye, busted lip because
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: we would have beat, me and my sisters would have
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: beat the dog shit out of Shelby before she made
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: it down that aisle.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Rightfully so. Yes, rightfully so. Like, I don't respect that.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: And I don't feel like that would actually happen in
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: real life.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: No, it's not real.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't respect that. But just for the sake
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: of the show and the review of the show, since
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I did watch it, I don't respect that. She should
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: have never showed her ass up there. He should have
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: never been marrying somebody all while you know your heart
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: is someplace else.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I respect it because go after what you want, bitch.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: If that's what you want, you better go for it.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't want him until he got somebody else.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: That's some selfish shit.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: It is what it is.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I understand why you relate with that, but anyway, we
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: can move on to the next. What the fuck that mean, bitch?
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: What the fuck that mean? The shade.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: The shade of it all.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: The motherfucking shade.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I believe in going after what you want. That's the
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: point blank, period.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Even if it's somebody else's husband.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: No, uh-uh, don't do that. They weren't married yet.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just playing. I'm just playing.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: They wasn't married yet. Oh, they definitely weren't, but yes.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: You were. Okay, so what's the cutoff, right? So, no,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I always say, like, I'll fuck with somebody's boyfriend, but
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I ain't fuck with nobody's husband. Not saying that I've
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: never been in those types of situations, because I have, right? But,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: you know, play your fucking part, bitch. But what's the cutoff? Like,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: when you in a relationship, you get engaged, like, that's
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: damn near married. You know, you can't say, oh, he's
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: off limits.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: You ain't married until the ring go on and y'all
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: make vows before God and the law.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Well, obviously, that's what... What Quentin thought, because while he
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: was fucking, he was like, I ain't married yet.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: I said I do yet.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: And listen, she came there and she left. She was
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: in the airport. That nigga followed her to the airport.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: She was going to let them have their happy nuptials.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: And she said, bitch, if you hurt him, it ain't
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: way in hell. I ain't going to beat your ass.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: And then left. So Quentin came to get her. So
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: let's be honest about what happened.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Then see Amara burnt that shit down before she left, bitch.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Waving a sage in the air. Sage in that bad energy.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Got the fuck up out of there.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: See, Amara didn't really love him. She just loved her.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: You think that's what it was? I don't feel like
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: she really loved him like that.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: One, she left too easy.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: She burned some shit down before she left, though. That's
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: still too easy. Because that's the writing. We don't know.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: What would you have done if that were you?
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I told you. Shelby would have been black and blue
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: limping her ass down the aisle.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Honestly.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I'd have to wear her ass out. Right.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Thank God it's a movie.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Right. And not real life.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Merchant and Candace. They were my, like,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I would say favorite couple.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. No? Yeah.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: They were my favorite couple. And I felt him because...
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: had a guest on recently and he pretty much told
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: us that his um his therapist essentially was trying to
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: tell him hey you're a simp so that kind of
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: it would be like merchant's character like he's a simp
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: like everybody think he is simp anyway but he's a
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: real man right.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: And a part of him was thinking he was a
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: simp as well you know he was feeling like I've
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: been a bitch ass nigga far too long. They betray
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: me like this bitch ass nigga in a movie. My
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: best friends, they don't respect me as the man that
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I am. This white lady trying to play with me.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: My little girls, one of my little girls, like daddy
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: didn't do shit. He, you know, like coming in the house,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: acting like I can't hear her talking shit about me.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: And his wife is so understanding. Now, one thing I
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: do not like about this couple is Candace's hair. I
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: felt like Tyler Perry was producing a little bit. Who
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: the fuck?
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that wig. That wig. Because she's a beautiful woman.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Wigs.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: That wig did not do her any justice. Yeah, I agree.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: But that was small in comparison to the character, right?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: The character, she was a good woman. You know, she
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: was far. I think they wanted us to say anything
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: about like how strippers are portrayed.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: They made her super conservative.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like. She danced that one time in her life.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: But look at her.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: She's the, all the adjectives. She's the educator, black progressive educator.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Of the year.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: She got that award. And she had a situation with
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: the advisor.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: And as soon as he sat his ass up on
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: that desk with his legs open behind her, I already
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: knew what time it was because I done seen that
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: stance a time or two in my life. from men
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: who were in leadership in my life. So I know
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: exactly how that was about to go. But then, all right,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: so this is the crazy part for me, y'all, because
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: he grabbed her shoulders and then he slid down to
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: her breast or whatever. And obviously he violated her. She
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: didn't go home to her nigga and tell her man.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't understand why she felt like she couldn't say
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: nothing to her man about it.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: And I didn't see why she was crying either. And
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: then maybe that means that I'm too comfortable with abuse.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. Am I too comfortable with abuse?
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Because why am I like, why is she crying about
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: that nigga grabbing her titty? I would have just told
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: my man we would have went to ride on him.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: So remember when she finally did tell him in the
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: kitchen after she saw him fighting how strong her man was?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Not that that had anything to do with the two.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: But she said, you know, I went through this thing
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: time and time and time again in my mind. There's
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: nothing I could have done any different. That's what it was.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: She was blaming herself initially. Like, did I do something
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: to provoke this thing? Like, did I do something to
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: send him the wrong cues or something like that? That's
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: what women go through when you get violated by somebody.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: It's like, what did I do to invite this? Right.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: So when she was explaining to her husband what had
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: happened and she told him, you know, it's just him.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: He's a pig. He was going to do that no
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: matter what. Right. That's why she didn't come straight home
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: and tell her husband. Because I think a part of her,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: and also from having been a stripper at some point,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: being objectified in that way, she might have felt like,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: did I do something to deserve this? And a lot
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: of women go through that before they actually tell the truth.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Girl, them frumpy ass shirts and that ugly wig, you
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: didn't do nothing. You didn't do nothing.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have thought that. And I don't think I
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: would have been that upset over it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: What I wanted to see next, though, in my mind,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, now her nigga doing kickboxing and all
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: that shit. She about to tell him this nigga done
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: violated her. He about to pull up at that school.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: I wanted that.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted that, but it wasn't written in.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: I thought Merch was going to whoop Harper ass at
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: one time. I was like, oh, he going to beat
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Harper ass up.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I like that for Merch.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. I was happy for Merch because 20
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: years we've been seeing him be a bitch ass nigga.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Can't hold water. Just doing goofy shit.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Kind of neurotic and goofy and socially awkward. Socially awkward,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: acting weird about the best man. But they the best couple.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: They got the healthiest marriage.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Q Amara. All witnesses bow to the union of Q Amara.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh my God, Merge, you are so lame. Corn!
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Who's next?
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Go!
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Let's go!
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Go! Hip Hop Harry. All right, let's get into it. Uh,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: first let's just talk about Lance by himself.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: You know, when we saw him like using sex as
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: a tool to cope and you know, we had an
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: episode on how it doesn't heal and that just doesn't
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: apply to women. You know, we were speaking about women
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: because we are there, but Lance is just a, you know,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: representation of how hoeing for anyone does not heal you
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: when you're in pain.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And I think a lot of men, a lot
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: of men don't associate like being promiscuous with some type
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: of trauma. So he was using women as an outlet
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: for what he was actually going through in his life.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: So he's just going to fucking swimming pool, butt naked
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: in front of all these people. I'm like, wait, is
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: this a nude resort? What the fuck is happening on
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: this show? He looks good though. Let's just talk about that.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: So Morris Chestnut don't look like Charlamagne?
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: No. No, he does not.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I think they look alike. They at least look like Ken.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: They look like family members.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: If you're saying two black men with bald heads, yes.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: But look, shout out to whoever did his motherfucking lace
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: front for the back scene when he was in the
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: hospital with his son having a baby.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they did a good job.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: That hair was nice, okay?
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: It looked nice on him. He should keep it.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Or was that a scene from that time? I don't
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: remember that happening.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't. No, I think it was a reenactment.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a nice-ass little fade lace front he had on.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Right. Whoever did that wig should have did Candace's wig.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: But anyway.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about Lance and LJ and their
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: relationship because that is a huge dynamic within our culture
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: right now. especially with young people and their parents and
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: people our age trying to understand their kids and understanding
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: like having different pronouns and things like that and sexuality
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: and coming to terms with that.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: What were your thoughts on it?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: So again, this is like one of the many social
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: issues they had in Best Man, Final Chapters. And I
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: feel like it was necessary because these people exist. Right.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: That this is a new thing, the pronouns and all
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: that stuff. Now that they them, that's the one that
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: confuses me the most. Okay. If it's my child, I
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: would try my best to do the things, but I
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: don't have any kids. I'm not doing it in my
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: real life for people. Like I'll, I'll just really, you
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: call people by their names anyway, like just their names.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have to say they, them to them for
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: real unless I'm talking to other people about them.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: But if you're talking to other people about them, are
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you going to use the pronouns that they desire?
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: If the person I'm talking to also requires that. Because
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: you notice his friend was like, who are you talking about?
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: That's just too much. You're antagonizing this man and his
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: son is missing. So I just feel like it's just
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: a little bit... I don't know if it was antagonizing.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: I think it was.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: More about why he gone in the first place. Like,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: you still doing this shit and this is why he's
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: not here. This is why you're searching for him right now.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: It's because this reason right here, you don't respect who
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: he is as an individual.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: But I feel like So he was a high school student, right?
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: This boy was still in high school. You're raised by
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: a masculine, masculine man, right? He's a single parent. He
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: went through a lot, lost his wife. Now he's trying
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: to raise three children by himself. I think as kids,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: we don't give our parents enough grace as kids. And
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: even sometimes as adults, we don't be giving them enough grace.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: He needed more time to adjust to that too. Like
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: that was his initial response. But if that's not something
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: that you anticipated for your child, And now here it
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: is smacking your face. And he didn't have the decency
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: to talk to him about it. He felt like he
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: didn't need to tell his daddy about it. But you
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: upstairs in my friend's house with lipstick on. Like, I
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: do feel like that that should have been a conversation
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: he had with his dad.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was afraid, you know, he was scared.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was he just like, fuck that.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: He don't need to know my business. I think it
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: was more I'm afraid to tell my father because of
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: all these things that you said, because mama ain't here.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Because I don't think he'll accept me because he's so masculine.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: So I think that was the reason why he kept
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: this from his father, not because he didn't respect him
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: enough to tell him, you know.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think he needed a little bit more
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: grace to be okay with it. And maybe it took
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: that traumatic event. I think regardless of what's going on,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I think you're about to lose your child. Does this thing,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: however your child wants to identify, does it even matter?
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Because it's still your child.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Right. That part. You know, I have one of my
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: closest friends, her daughter.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: See?
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Her son has, you know, decided that they identify as male.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: And, you know, me knowing him his whole life, I
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: struggle greatly.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: As you can see right now, just having a conversation
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: with you, I struggle so much saying he. and calling
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: him by the name that he's chosen for himself because of,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I just, in my mind, I see him as this
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: person that I've known since they came out of the womb,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: you know? And I struggle with it so much and
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I'm always apologizing because I don't want to offend anybody.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, make him feel like
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I'm rude to how he sees himself.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: But it's hard for me. It's hard for me.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Do they visually look like him now?
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Not to me. Well, they present themselves as male.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: But just in my psyche, it's just very hard. You know,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I try my best, though, and I'll continue to try.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: And eventually I'll get it.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: So that's what I'm talking about. They have to have
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: more grace with us too. Yeah. This is new. This
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: is really, really new. Like, I don't know when it
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: came about, but, um, I have a friend, she's a
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: chiropractor and one of her patients presents as a woman.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: When I say presents as a woman, she still looks
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: like a woman, right? She dresses like a woman. She's
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: married to a trans woman.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Okay. So a trans woman is a man. Was born
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: a man.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Okay. So this is a black woman. She's a trans man.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: And she's married to a trans woman. A white trans woman.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: So are they gay or no?
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm getting to.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: So she doesn't physically look like a man.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I think you need the visuals to go with it. Also.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: But she wants to be addressed as him. you know, he,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: but I have to then trick my mind to accommodate
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: you in that way. And it's hard, especially if, you know,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: sometimes like I have a couple guys that I might
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: hang up, not like hang out with in my social
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: circle that are gay guys. And because of their demeanor,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: it almost automatically like comes out. You'd be like, girl,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: because of how they act. But if you are physically
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: acting like a woman, looking like a woman, but you
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: want to be called him and he, That is very,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: and then how many other people I got to do
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: this for in life? It's too much.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: It's hard. It is difficult. But, you know, you want
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: to respect everybody's choices.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: And that's why when I say I'm 32, I just
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: feel like people should just respect that shit. I'm 32
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: years old, and I just feel 32 inside. I don't feel, like, older.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: So why the fuck do I gotta be what my
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: birth certificate says it is I'm 32 bitch why y'all
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: keep trying to give me cakes with that other number
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: on it when I told you that ain't my motherfucking number.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Period.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Period.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: They're allowed to change the sex and stuff like that
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: on license and birth certificates now. Why I can't be younger?
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Trans age.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Why I can't change my age? Yeah, I'm trans age,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: god damn it. I'm starting a new... 2023, we starting
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: a new movement, bitch.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Actually, I'm Karen, okay? Y'all, we gonna go to break
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: right quick. We'll be right back.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: All right, so the final group of people, Harper.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Before we get into Harper and Robin, let's just talk
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: about Jordan by herself.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: I identify with Jordan in a lot of ways.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I know you would say that.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I really... You too? Did you feel like that?
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Kind of. Mm-hmm. I think a lot of single black
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: women with no children identify with Jordan.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, I did in.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: When she was like sitting in that boardroom and her brain,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: like she couldn't even see. And she just was not
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: prioritizing her health.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: The way she should.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: And she's just taking on everybody's shit and not concerning
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: with her own the way she should. Baby, that was like,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I need to, I need to learn, take a lesson
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: from this moment right here.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: You know, I have MS and I don't always prioritize
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: it like I should. I know, like I just kind
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: of like treat it. I feel like I do this
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: thing in my mind, like I don't feel like I
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: have it.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: So I don't period.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: And I think that has helped me in many, many
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: ways because I see so many people struggling with it
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: that in a way that I don't, but knock on wood,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: God pray I don't start, but I know that I
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: need to like do more when it comes to health.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: And I got to like, I work a lot. Like,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like my whole life is like, you know, go, go.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Every time I wake up, it's like, go, go, go, go, go, go,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: you know? Like, so I need to find a way
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: to cut back on that and stop. I mean, I
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: love money, y'all. I love money.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: I love it. Give me some. If y'all love me,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: cash at me right now.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Shit, I love the money.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: But I need to, like, not chase the bag so much.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you, stress will literally take you out. It
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: would literally take you out. And I have seen people
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: who went blind temporarily from stress. So you definitely got
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: to prioritize your health over everything. If you ain't good,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: like none of that shit gonna fucking matter. You can't
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: take the money with you. You can't take none of
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: this shit with you. Be up out of here on
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: the other side looking like, damn, that's my purse my
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: sister wear. Yeah, that's the fuck. That's what it would be.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: With Jordan... I identified with like the, especially the relationship
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: in particular that she has with Harper. I have a
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: couple men that I have dated in the past and
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: who have went off, got married, stuff like that. And
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: for whatever reason, and I don't talk to them often,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: but they'll periodically throughout the year text me these shoulda, woulda,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: coulda text messages. And I do not find them flattering
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: at all. I'm not your fucking safe space.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Your soft place to land.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Yes. Exactly. That's what she said. And I felt that
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: because I feel like I've been that for a couple guys.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Like y'all have went on, built lives with other women.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: You didn't choose me. And you realize maybe because this
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: thing that you're in, it ain't what it is, right?
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: It ain't me. And you want to, no, nigga, if
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: you ain't choose me the first time, fuck off my phone.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: But I've had the same phone number for so long.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: It's like, people just be... I don't even know. Maybe
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: they don't even want you. Maybe they want to know
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: they still have access to you.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Access to you.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: A lot of times.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: People love.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: We be confusing. Mm-hmm.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: This nigga that I used to deal with, I would
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: always allow him to come back in my space because
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: we had so much fun together.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: I'd be like, we just got soul ties. I would
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: say that. And just let him.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: But finally, during the pandemic, I was like, no more.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Stay the fuck away from me. Maybe I start getting
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: all kind of.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: I'm a... This nigga sent.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Me a DM from a page that I don't, because
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I blocked this page from mine. The DM said, I'm
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: going to beat you up on site and I'm going
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: to shoot any nigga that you fuck with. This nigga
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: ain't going to bust a grape, y'all. He just mad
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: because he don't have access anymore. Niggas really, that's all
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: they want is the access and they don't even really
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: want you.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: It's just the fact that- To know they still got access.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Right. He ain't going to bust a grape, y'all. Don't
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: be worried about that. He just talking shit. Right.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: What about Jordan the motherhood cry she was sat in
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: the car and found out she was.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: Not pregnant do we have to talk about that because
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: I mean okay we don't have any kids we aren't
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: as young you know Tammy's 32 I'm 38 and I
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: mean that is like a reality at this.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Point But with science, people are having children a lot later.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Do I want to have to fuck with science to
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: get a baby? That would probably be my last resort,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: for real. But you could still have a baby. She
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: could still have a baby. But it is a thing
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: for a lot of women. And it's not just black
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: women who are having fertility issues. It's across the board
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: because of our food, the healthcare system. There's a lot
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: of different things going on right now that's affecting women.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: people having kids. Like all of our grandparents had a
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: lot of kids. What's happening? Like now you down to
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: like one to three or something like that. And a dog.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about plan B's and abortion too. They didn't
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: have that option because.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Some of y'all grandma, y'all wouldn't have been here if
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: grandma had a plan B option. I'm just going to
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: tell y'all that.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Yo.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: If grandma could have had a plan B, some of
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: us might... I don't know if I would have been
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: here right now.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Swallowing is plan A. Let's be clear. They probably aiming
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: down for that shit neither. Granny probably was like, what?
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: In my mouth? Snot?
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: No. Get somebody else to do it.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Because grandpa had a family down the street anyway. Get her. See?
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. Keep the peace.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Keep the peace.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Sometimes y'all bitches need to outsource y'all nigga to somebody else. Like.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: I know, because I've been thinking.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: All right, so I have been single for a minute,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: but I used to remember in my relationship, I used
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: to think like, damn, I wish.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: My nigga had another bitch to annoy right now. Like,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: is there not somebody else who you could go do
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: that with? Yeah, I used to feel like that. Stupid.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Listen, Harper and.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Jordan could never be together. Or maybe this is why
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: they think that them in a relationship would work is
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: because they equally work a lot. See, Robin, Harper's wife, Robin,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: she became a mother. She didn't chase any of her dreams.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: So he was used to that. He was used to her,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: you know, just being his sidekick. Oh, wow. Like your
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: woman has things that she wants to do.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: And ambitions that she wants to do.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So she pretty much gave her life up for
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: his career and to raise his child and all that stuff.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: And then your homegirl, you know, Jordan, Jordan is out
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: here chasing her dreams, doing the damn thing. She's sad
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: now because she doesn't have a family. So you see
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: both of these dynamics. You miss what you've never had. Well,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: they say you can't miss what you never had, but
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: people do.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: Right. Right.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: So you see both ends of the spectrum.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: But in Harper's defense, he felt like he was supporting her.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: He felt like he was doing, by tracing his dream,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: he was providing all the things that his family could
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: ever need.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: The big house.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: She was a little selfish. She was a little selfish.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: When they argued about the jazz club that she wanted,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: I understood his perspective too. I'm out of town. I
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: didn't get to see it. Yeah, I trust you, but
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: it's still a big purchase. It's pricey. You know what
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I'm saying? You've done all these things. And I identified
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: with Jordan on this. Not sorry, not Jordan. I identified
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: with Robin on this. I am the type of person
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: who starts with shit and don't finish. So that's another
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: thing I'm doing for 2023, executing. Right? So her husband
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: was like, I have supported you. You did this. We
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: did that. You stopped. You did this. You stopped doing that. Like,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: this could be another thing.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: And you just want me to jump out here and
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: buy something off the whim because you call me and.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Say, I need it right now. That's kind of hard. Yeah.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: So I can understand where he might have been like,
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: you know, my bad shit. You know, can we find
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: a different building? You know?
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Right. He was a little bit insensitive. And I think
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: that's where like the tone comes in. Just how you
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: say things. You know what I'm saying? Because he didn't
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: he didn't think it was such a big deal. And
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: he didn't realize how big of a deal it was
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: for her because he didn't even text her Happy New Year.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: His assistant did. His assistant sent the Happy New Year
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: because she had called him. She was trying to reach
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: him so that they could talk about the building. And
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: she couldn't reach him. And then you get the Happy
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: New Year, I love you text. message his assistant probably
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: sent that shit so now it's like I really wanted
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: this thing but we couldn't even communicate about it and
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: now you acting like it's nothing.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm in this cold the house cold ain't no
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: heat I.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Thought that nigga was trying to save money or something.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: The house that you wanted I didn't even want this house.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: And now I ain't got no heat in this motherfucker.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: And here come this fine ass nigga with heaters and
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not sucking his dick.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: You need to hurry up and come get here. You
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: need to get home.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: So that's where I also identify with Robin. Because here's
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: the thing. I feel like, and I always say this,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: women need a reason. Men just need a time and place.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Robin was ready to risk it all for real because
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: this man saw her vision. He was supportive. He went
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: with her, you know, to see the building and all
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: this stuff. It seems like that's a relationship.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: He found the building for her.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And it seems like, did Harper even know about
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: this guy? It didn't seem that way. It wasn't written
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: in there in that way. Meanwhile, after Lance's retirement event
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: and Harper ends up at the house with Jordan, they
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: about to smash if the phone didn't ring about Quentin. Mm-hmm.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: You didn't have a reason to cheat on your wife? No,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: that wasn't after the retirement event.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: That was after.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: New Year's Eve?
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it was after his premiere.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're right. That was after the premiere.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: So after the premiere, Harper and Jordan end up together,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: and they were getting pretty intimate. What reason did he
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: have to do that? Other than just being selfish. Because
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: he is selfish. He's like the selfish character.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: The crazy part was... Him and his.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Wife are selfish.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: So, yeah.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: So, she had the event. They compromised, right? So, she
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: came to his event. Then he came to support her.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: And then it was the after party. She was like, no,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: just go ahead. I'm going to stay here.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: I would have never sent my man nowhere with Jordan. Ever.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe she wanted something to happen.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Because I would have been like low-key intimidated by that
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: woman all the time just because I know the history.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: And she be fly as fuck.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Fine and fly as fuck and single.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: No kids. No kids. It's just fun over there.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: We just watched a movie where they fake fuck. Even
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: we know it wasn't them. But it's, you know, in the.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Movie, it's portrayed like those two had sex. So the
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: energy is already in the space. You think I'm sending you, boy?
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: You better wait here with me and.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: We gonna go.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like she was already out the door at
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: that point anyway. She was one foot out the door.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Once she started entertaining somebody else, usually you'd be looking
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: for a little replacement a little bit. You're trying to
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: get the fuck. So I was talking to this guy
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: at one point, right? And I told him how I
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: wasn't fucking with him anymore. And- He goes to say like,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: you can't just arbitrarily make that decision on your own.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you mean? I said, so if
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not like feeling you like that anymore, are you
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: telling me I can't walk away? And he was like, no,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: you're not in this by yourself. You can't just call
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: me and say, you're not fucking with me no more.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, why not? Exactly. How does that work?
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: One part of my brain was like, all right, that
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: kind of makes sense. The other side was like, boy,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: if I don't want to fuck with you, if I
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: got to put a restraint in order to you, that's
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: what's going to happen. But we don't realize once you
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: connect with people, especially in a marriage and with a child,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: you aren't in that situation by yourself anymore. And even
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: when you don't have kids involved, and even if you're
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: not married and you're connecting with somebody in a real way,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: It's no longer... I guess at some point, y'all have
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: to mutually say we ain't fucking with anybody. This was
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: this guy's point. We got to mutually walk away. You
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: can't just arbitrarily say it. I can't just arbitrarily say, bitch,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I ain't fucking with you no more. Bullshit.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Bullshit.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: You can wake up today and decide not to fuck
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: with nobody, somebody, and that's your prerogative. And they just
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: have to figure out how they want to navigate their
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: own life after that.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: How they want to learn to live without you, essentially.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Because... We ain't got to mutually agree on shit.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: But just think about times where, just think about like,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: it's really hard to get over relationships and not saying
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: like you should just stay with someone when you're unhappy.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: But I know you've left somebody before. You see how
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: it affects them.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: I actually went through like breakup therapy before I left
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: my ex. Like I had to actually talk to somebody
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: to help me through the process with leaving and staying gone.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Because it is a process. So now when you got
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: a child involved, she's taking her child to a whole
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: nother continent. You're not in this thing. You're not in
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: this life by yourself anymore. You got to take your
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: ex-husband into consideration and you have to take your child
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: into consideration. It's not just what you want to do
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: because you felt like you've been supporting all the things
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: he wanted to do. That man would have never move
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: to another continent. Women, we take things to the extreme
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of times. Because I've definitely moved twice to
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: get away from a nigga.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I moved to another continent to get away from a nigga.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: I really did. I moved to Europe.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: To get away from a nigga.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I moved to the Midwest. I moved to Atlanta first.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: That wasn't far enough. And then I moved to fucking St. Louis.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: And he wasn't coming up there. So, yeah, like, We
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: definitely take things to the extreme, which what men won't do.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: But sometimes it requires that you don't feel like it.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: That was one of the best decisions I ever made
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: for myself was to move.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: Far, far, far away.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: So, and, but then you don't have any kids. So
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: that's another thing. Like your life is not your own.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Once you have kids, it's just not. And that little
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: girl was already missing her dad. So now you didn't
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: give a fuck. It's what you want to do. You
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: think that's best for her. You're not taking into consideration
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: that she needs her daddy, especially if they're used to
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: being in the house and you made a decision that
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: you wanted to leave the marriage, right? You had had
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: enough and you didn't care how he felt. And I
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: don't understand how she got mad because he asked for,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: he was trying to push for custody of his daughter.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: That would be the advice I'd give any of my
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: guy friends if they called me in the same situation.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Try to get your child. I would, you know, make,
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: especially if you're an active parent, but I guess the
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: courts would then take into consideration that he's gone a
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: lot because he was. She was in a house alone
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: a lot. Right.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: And then here's the thing. So the primary custodian parent
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: was Robin. She was always there with that child. The
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: happiest version of her was in Ghana.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: You know? Don't you want your child to have the
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: custodial parent be the happiest they could be? Right. So
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: I'm torn on that. I'm torn on that, you know.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm just trying to put myself in Robin's shoes.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: And she put Ghana on her vision board many, many,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: many years ago. You know, this is something that she
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: has aspired to for a long.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Time in her life.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: And the opportunity and the universe conspired to have that
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: for her. So why should she not go?
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: And this man.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: I hear gallivanting where bitches from his past.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Gallivanting.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Can't even keep the heat on in the house because
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: he's so gone. Why shouldn't she go do what she's
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: been wanting to do? You know, so a part of
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: me looks at it like that. But then I also
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: understand staying in New York for her child to have
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: a close relationship with the father.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Right. And then ultimately in the end, he thanked her.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: He thanked Robin because I guess once you have time,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: because two years later now, he's still doing his thing.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: He still.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: He won a Pulitzer Prize.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Exactly. So imagine the work that took. Did you even
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: have time for a family for real? So maybe, you know,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Jordan might have been a better meet for him. Right.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: At that point. But he got to have... At the
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: end of it, he got to have everything he wanted.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: He had the wife experience. He had the child. He
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: about to fuck Jordan soon, seems like. And he got
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: the Pulitzer Prize.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: He won. Right.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: He did win.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: But he is, I believe him and his wife, they
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: have the most complex relationship out of all the couples,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: And it always been that way.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Girl, you got engaged to that nigga at Mia and
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Lance's wedding after he got his ass whooped for fucking
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: the bride.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: All right, so you kind of signed up for this shit.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: And he told you he was about to fuck Jordan
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: that night before you came and you stayed.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, you got to take some accountability now.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: See, I don't remember all that stuff. Y'all some real
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: TV motherfuckers, okay? I don't even remember all those details,
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: but now I do. Yeah. That is wild. And it's real.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: You lose them how you get them.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Oftentimes.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: He was about to fuck Jordan while he was your
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: man the night before y'all got engaged.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: Shame.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Shame. I don't know. Is it that? Okay. And this
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: is how I also relate with Jordan some more. I
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: know I'm not the safe wife. I'm not the safe girlfriend.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: I'm going to make you cry. I'm going to give
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: you something to fucking deal with. You're like, men want
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: to be able to do all these. I'm not going
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: to actually do it, but if you do some shit
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: to me, like, there's going to be repercussions. So I
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: think that Jordan wasn't safe. Men oftentimes, they don't marry
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: the woman that they actually want. They marry safe.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: They're a homely safe chick.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they marry safe and then they go outside to
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: do their little thing with the people they actually like.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: All right, you know one other thing that I just
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: didn't like about the series? Why they had that fine-ass
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: black man Will in the story and she ain't fuck him?
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: I was so mad. He was purposeless to the story.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: He didn't come to New York and fuck her. Why
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: is he here being all fine and chocolatey? I would
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: have took that swordfish. I'd have been like, you only
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: got one piece of swordfish, sir.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: She was like, I had a snapper. I had a
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: snapper yeah cause look we could have split it we
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: definitely would have been eating off the same fork and
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: fucking that night who gonna know no one's gonna know
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: who's gonna know they're not gonna find out but Jasmine
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: made her way to goddamn New York somehow I don't
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: understand why old boy ain't made his way right Will.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jasmine came to New York. I like the part
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: that they made her... She was flirting now. She was
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: being flirty, but she was engaged, and she let him
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: know that I'm loyal and I'm spoken for, so don't
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: even try it because it's not happening. I think they
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: wanted us to see that this character could be loyal
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: to the person that she's with.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: A little fraternizing is healthy. I got in trouble a
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: lot in my last relationship for fraternizing. But it's not
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: because he didn't fraternize. It's because I didn't snoop to
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: see what he was doing. And it just would drop
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: in my lap. But I think that everybody does it.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Everybody had these little chit-chat, little sneaky little things they
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: do with people that they have some type of connection with.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: But it's not cheating. You know what I'm saying? And
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: as soon as she told him, hey, when she felt
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: like he was liking her, she said, you know, I'm engaged.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: And that's just how it should be. I feel like
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: you should be able to have friends of the opposite sex.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: And even if you meet them later on in life,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: if you're in a relationship, why can't I meet a
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: new man and not be somebody I want to have
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: sex with?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: Well, they did want to fuck, though. You could tell
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: they did. The energy was there. Overall, it was good.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. I hope they have a part two.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: I think it might be the end of it because
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: they said the final chapters.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: I was about to say that, yeah. But it's a
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: story that could keep going, honestly. Everybody loves these characters.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: They've been part of our lives for 20 years.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: So I would watch another round.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe people are watching my movie when it comes out.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: What's it called?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I can't tell you. I can't tell the people. I'll
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: tell you once I get you to sign a verbal NDA.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: But it's essentially like a mixture between And some of
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: the shit I was seeing, I'm like, you know, when
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: you think something and you put it in the universe,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: you need to hurry up and do it. Because I
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: think once you put it out in the ethers, other
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: people pick it up somehow. Because some of the little
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: things I wanted to do in my movie is in
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: motherfucking Best Man. So it's like a mix between Best
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Man and what's that movie? It's like white guys and
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: they go... on a bachelor party, like in Vegas.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: On one- Hangover? Hangover.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Hangover. So it's like a mix between those two.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Can I be a character in it?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could be a character in it. I literally
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: have like, I'm looking at people like on social media.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: It's like some people I want that are like aspiring
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: actresses and stuff like that.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: That I want- Don't give me no weak ass lines like,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: they went that way. No, my bitch, I want to roll.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Give me an extra.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: No, I don't want to.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: Extra, extra.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be just walking by on the
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: phone like, all right, just walk by.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Like one of my characters is like an Erykah Badu
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: type person. And so when I saw the one character
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: in the movie, I mean, not like that though. I
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: want her to actually be like an Erykah Badu type character.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: In real life? Yeah.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: She wasn't that. What's the one who was with Quentin,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: who's going to marry Quentin?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Siamara?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Siamara. So it's like a Siamara type character, but
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: like a real one. You know what I'm saying? So
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: that's one of the characters in my movie that's going
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: to make one of the other guys, the corporate thug nigga, change.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Who got all the bitches, change.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, coming soon, y'all. I'll be in a movie.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I enjoyed it nonetheless. I stayed up till three
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: o'clock last night because your ass wanted to talk about this,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: but I enjoyed it. I made her.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: Watch it, y'all.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: I was like, watch this shit so we can talk
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: about it with our listeners.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: I've been watching his Dark Materials on HBO Max. That's
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: the show I've been currently watching. It's really good, y'all.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: Time travel.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: It's black people? No, it's mixed. It's different people. It's
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: like going in between different universes and shit like that.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: It's stuff like the Bible. They got Metatron in there.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: It's real... It's really good. But that's the type of
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: shit I'd be liking to watch. Anyway, y'all, maybe we'll
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: do these little reviews more often on the black cinema
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: type movies that people have been following for years and
• 1:05:04
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• 1:05:24
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• 1:05:27
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• 1:05:29
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• 1:05:32
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