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Breaking News: Divorce is Trending · I Do, Part 2

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Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, welcome to I Do Part two. If
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Speaker 1: you got love right the first time around, this ain't
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Speaker 1: the show for you. On TJ Holmes alongside my friend,
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Speaker 1: my partner, my podcast co host Amy Roboch. That was
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Speaker 1: also impersonal.
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Speaker 2: Let me, I'm very clinical.
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Speaker 1: It did with my person, my partner, my spouse, my
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Speaker 1: what's the right.
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Speaker 2: Way to love of my life?
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Speaker 1: Love my life? There it is that you had to
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Speaker 1: feed me that line is a little disturbed.
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Speaker 3: I think you probably avoided saying it because it's overused
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Speaker 3: all the time on all the reality shows we watch,
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Speaker 3: and you roll your eyes when people call each other
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Speaker 3: the love of their lives. Then we look up and
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Speaker 3: two months later they're so I think you probably tried
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Speaker 3: not to use that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And so we have had a chance to come
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Speaker 1: hop onto I Do Part two in a little bit,
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Speaker 1: and there's always relationship news. So we're going to discuss
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Speaker 1: some relationship news, some very high profile relationship news, and
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Speaker 1: we're going to get into a couple of questions, one
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Speaker 1: of them having to be what do you do post divorce?
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Speaker 1: Is it important for you to rebrand yourself? We're also
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Speaker 1: going to get into this question, is it good to
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Speaker 1: throw a divorce party, a divorce celebration, or is that
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Speaker 1: in bad taste. There's a lot of celebrities who are
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Speaker 1: going through this right now. The first Dree Kimsley. Let's
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Speaker 1: start with her. A lot of people know and I
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Speaker 1: would say love, but she has some issues right now
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Speaker 1: with irregilable differences. Of course, she's from the Beverly Hills housewife.
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Speaker 1: She's divorcing her husband PK is his name after A PK.
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Speaker 1: Kimsley after ten years of marriage. Now Robes. We hear
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Speaker 1: about a divorce, we hear about a breakup, but so
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Speaker 1: much of the conversation around this one has to do
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Speaker 1: with the fact that they actually made it to ten
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Speaker 1: years of marriage.
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Speaker 3: And the reason why that's significant. It varies from state
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Speaker 3: to state, but anyone who's been divorce knows sometimes folks
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Speaker 3: will be strategic and plan their divorces for when they
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Speaker 3: might have the most to gain and maybe the.
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Speaker 2: Least to lose.
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Speaker 3: You could look at it two different ways, and who
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Speaker 3: knows that this is the case. But a lot of
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Speaker 3: people are wondering if Deret waited for those ten years,
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Speaker 3: because in the state of California, that means you've been
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Speaker 3: in a what is it called a long.
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Speaker 2: Term marriage New Jersey? I know has that here?
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Speaker 3: Again different from state to state, but once you get
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Speaker 3: branded as a long term marriage, you are entitled to
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Speaker 3: fifty percent.
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Speaker 2: And so who.
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Speaker 3: Knows what the state of their finances actually is and
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Speaker 3: whether or not that's even true. But a lot of
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Speaker 3: people are saying, hmmm, I wonder if she was waiting
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Speaker 3: specifically so that she could get fifty percent.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure it just happened to work out that way.
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Speaker 3: Surely she might even be like, hell, yeah, I did
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Speaker 3: you know?
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Speaker 1: Who knows?
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Speaker 3: I've heard I've heard women say yeah, I stuck with
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Speaker 3: it because I knew that I was. I had done
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Speaker 3: enough where I felt like this was the way that
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Speaker 3: made the most sense for me. So who knows what
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Speaker 3: it is? But another thing people are talking about is
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Speaker 3: that PK I think he got photographed one day before
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Speaker 3: the divorce filing kissing and holding hands with a former
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Speaker 3: Amazing Race contestant. So if you're a big reality show person,
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Speaker 3: you might know who is it, Shannel wall Is. So
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Speaker 3: he was out kissing, holding our hands. It wasn't like
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Speaker 3: he was hiding it.
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Speaker 1: What we're saying is, we're not holding out hope for
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Speaker 1: a reconciliation.
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Speaker 2: I don't think that's what happened.
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Speaker 3: They do have two kids, Jaggers eleven, Phoenix is nine,
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Speaker 3: and so PK has filed for joint custody.
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Speaker 2: We'll see.
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Speaker 3: We hope the best for them. Divorce is hard, and
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Speaker 3: it's really hard in the public eye. So we wish
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Speaker 3: them both the best.
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Speaker 1: See when we say we wish them the best, oftentimes
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Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean that the relationship continues. Sometimes what's best,
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Speaker 1: and we've learned that what's best is for them to
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Speaker 1: go their separate ways. Now, another divorce that's taking place
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Speaker 1: now is from a guy. Look, I love Steve Guttenberg
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Speaker 1: back in the day.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Three Men and a baby.
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Speaker 1: But before that police Academy. Wasn't he in the one
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Speaker 1: with the what was the robot? What was the name
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Speaker 1: of it? Short Circuit? Is it short Short Circuit? You
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Speaker 1: remember that movie? Yes?
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Speaker 3: And I have actually seen Steve Gutenberg running in Central
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Speaker 3: Park before he was running alone. He was actually I've
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Speaker 3: only seen him one time running in New York, but
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, that was Steve. Good.
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Speaker 1: You're probably going to see him unning alone again if
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Speaker 1: you see him because he is announced now he is
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Speaker 1: also file from divorce of his wife of six years
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Speaker 1: now six years of a shorter time. This is his
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Speaker 1: second marriage. Been there, done that call with Steve if
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Speaker 1: you want to talk, but his wife, Emily Smith, there
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Speaker 1: is a significant age gap.
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Speaker 2: Did we look?
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Speaker 3: Is Steve sixty six six and we believe Emily Smith
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Speaker 3: is thirty.
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Speaker 1: Five, so somewhere around thirty years, you know, does that
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Speaker 1: fla into it?
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Speaker 2: I mean, it absolutely could have.
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Speaker 3: They're saying irreconcilable differences again, and he's already he's already
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Speaker 3: agreed to pay sposal support to Smith. So they did
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Speaker 3: have a prenup, which I think will help expedite this
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Speaker 3: and hopefully make it a little bit less messy. Is
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Speaker 3: certainly in the public eye. It's never fun to have
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Speaker 3: people wanting to know.
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Speaker 2: All the details.
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Speaker 3: So if you had a pre up, hopefully that will
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Speaker 3: make things a much smoother process for both of them.
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Speaker 1: And again, we don't we hate to speculate about somebody
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Speaker 1: a specific relationship, have no idea what happened and why
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Speaker 1: with these two, But anytime we've talked about this, certainly
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Speaker 1: recently with with several couples of relationships where there's a
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Speaker 1: big age difference, it does come into play. You could
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Speaker 1: love somebody all day long, but you have different interests,
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Speaker 1: you have different bedtimes, even you have different things you wanted.
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Speaker 2: Different activity levels, all of that.
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Speaker 1: And that can come into play in a relationship. So
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Speaker 1: hopefully both of those get through that and look, like
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Speaker 1: we said, Robes, we've been there, we have done that,
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Speaker 1: and we know you can come out better on the other.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So those were yes, one hundred percent. Those are some
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Speaker 3: recent splitting up headlines, but there are some moving on
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Speaker 3: headlines from people who have just recently announced their divorces,
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Speaker 3: among them Jessica Simpson. She it was right at the
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Speaker 3: beginning of the year, correct that she announced that she
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Speaker 3: and her well now ex husband Eric Johnson were splitting,
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Speaker 3: and they had been together for a very long time.
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Speaker 2: But I love this part of the story.
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Speaker 3: So if anyone remembers Jessica Simpson's kind of been known
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Speaker 3: as despite the fact that she is a ridiculously successful
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Speaker 3: business woman.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, is a billionaire. I think she's a billionaire.
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Speaker 3: So I actually stopped myself, but I was like, I'm
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Speaker 3: pretty sure she's in that billionaire league where you know,
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Speaker 3: she's got the clothing line and everything. She's really expanded
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Speaker 3: her empire from beyond music, even though she is making
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Speaker 3: new music. But she was kind of known as, unfortunately
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Speaker 3: for her, a dumb blonde, all because of that reality
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Speaker 3: show she did with Nick Lache. Remember when she asked
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Speaker 3: if Tuna was Chicken of the sea?
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Speaker 2: She was like, is it chicken?
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Speaker 3: And just because of that one perhaps maybe even silly
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Speaker 3: comment she made, I don't think she's been able to shake,
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Speaker 3: or maybe she at least feels like she hasn't been
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Speaker 3: able to shake that dumb blonde, you know, the thing
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Speaker 3: that people assigned to someone, especially if you just make
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Speaker 3: one mistake. So anyway, I love this. She is now
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Speaker 3: saying that she wants to go back to school. It's
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Speaker 3: something she's had a dream of her entire life since
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Speaker 3: her twenties, and now she wants to go back to
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Speaker 3: school and expand her education.
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Speaker 1: I think that's great. I would hate for her motivation
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Speaker 1: to be to prove something to anybody other than herself.
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Speaker 1: If she wants to do that, that's fine. I know
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Speaker 1: it can look good, and I know there's a pr
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Speaker 1: element to everything when it comes to folks who are
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Speaker 1: in the public eye. But I hope she does this
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Speaker 1: for her. Who gives a damn when anybody thinks about you.
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Speaker 1: If this is what she wants to do.
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Speaker 3: I hope she does it, and I think it is
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Speaker 3: a cool thing. I think, you know, especially if so
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Speaker 3: much of your life has been wrapped up in another person,
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Speaker 3: or at least in that relationship, when you are now
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Speaker 3: on your own, to start really investing in yourself, whether
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Speaker 3: it's to go back to school. She's actually getting on
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Speaker 3: the stage for the first time in fifteen years with
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Speaker 3: this new music she has, so she's now investing in herself,
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Speaker 3: and I think that's actually a part of the healing process.
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Speaker 1: This next headline I didn't even want to do because
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Speaker 1: it has to do with j lovel and Ben. And
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Speaker 1: unless the headline is they're getting back together, I don't
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Speaker 1: really give a damn.
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Speaker 3: I know, we know how you feel and where you stand.
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Speaker 1: On still rooting for these two.
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Speaker 3: You still hope, you know, it's even as we're seeing
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Speaker 3: them start to talk about their marriage, you're waiting for
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Speaker 3: them to say, you know, because you see his kids
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Speaker 3: hanging out with her kids and members of their family
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Speaker 3: hanging out together, and you could see a real relationship,
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Speaker 3: in an authentic bond that formed, and even between them,
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Speaker 3: it seems like they're good. So you kind of want
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Speaker 3: to know that, oh, they could get back together, but
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Speaker 3: that's not the headline.
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Speaker 1: They can clearly get along as we see, these two
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Speaker 1: have been each other's lives publicly for decades now. But yeh,
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Speaker 1: She's was just quoted recently talking about how she told
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Speaker 1: her kids. Look, these families have been intertwined for quite
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Speaker 1: some time, and she said she told her kids she
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Speaker 1: just promised them that Mama was gonna be okay. She said,
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Speaker 1: I promise that I'll come out the other side stronger
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Speaker 1: and better. I promised them that, and I did it.
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Speaker 1: This is her saying that she has like come out
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Speaker 1: and emerged. Look, that was a mess. For any divorce
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Speaker 1: privately sucks a divorce publicly. Really, it really sucks a
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Speaker 1: divorce publicly from somebody that you got two new movies
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Speaker 1: and your whole new album attached to.
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Speaker 3: And it was a fairy tale kind of blood story
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Speaker 3: because they had been engaged twenty years prior and then
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Speaker 3: it just wasn't the right time. So now, for all
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Speaker 3: of us who believe in love and are rooting for love.
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Speaker 3: You think, oh wow, it just wasn't the right time,
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Speaker 3: but now it is. Now they could be together.
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Speaker 2: Hope, And still the moment's just not right.
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Speaker 3: But she does say she has a great sense of
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Speaker 3: peace in her life, and isn't that what we all
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Speaker 3: are hoping for? Well?
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Speaker 1: Does some piece come for some people? If you have
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Speaker 1: to a split or a divorce, do you feel better
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Speaker 1: to get rid of stuff that you had together? Anytime?
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Speaker 1: If you get divorced and you all lived in this
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Speaker 1: house together, would you be okay with one person gets
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Speaker 1: the house? Would you be okay getting the house? Or
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Speaker 1: do you want you don't want anything to do with
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Speaker 1: anything that you all had together?
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Speaker 2: To each his own.
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Speaker 3: But I like to start a new because for me,
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Speaker 3: things have memory, things have feelings. I think what you
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Speaker 3: surround yourself actually truly impacts how you feel. It affects energy,
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Speaker 3: and it does for me. So you know, you make
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Speaker 3: those decisions on a case by case basis. Unfortunately, you
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Speaker 3: and I have had some experience in this department.
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Speaker 2: What do you think?
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Speaker 1: You know me fairly well, and I can separate. I
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Speaker 1: can associate pretty easily and quickly. And something is dead
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Speaker 1: to me and it's over to that point. I don't.
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Speaker 1: You don't want to see something that has a memory
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Speaker 1: attached to it. It could be a pleasant one or an
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Speaker 1: unpleasant one. You just don't. I don't want to see
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Speaker 1: that stuff, none of it. I don't want to drink
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Speaker 1: the same drink.
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Speaker 3: No, seriously, I don't want to wear the same clothes.
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Speaker 2: I actually feel that way.
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Speaker 1: Think Okay, I'm with you there one hundred percent. And
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Speaker 1: I mentioned that because Jessica Alba they are selling their
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Speaker 1: La home for nineteen million dollars. It's on the market,
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Speaker 1: so it's available if you'd like to go out and
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Speaker 1: put your bid in. But it's in La. But this
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Speaker 1: is the home she shared with Cash Warren, who she
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Speaker 1: also I think it was the beginning of the year,
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Speaker 1: announced they would be getting a divorce as well. But
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Speaker 1: this is a home that she called their dream home
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Speaker 1: at some point and now that dream is gone. And
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Speaker 1: I bet she doesn't. No, no, I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: put words in.
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Speaker 2: Her mouth, but yes, but what I think where you're
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Speaker 2: going with this?
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Speaker 3: Look, she was married, They were married for sixteen years,
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Speaker 3: and she and they both both Jessica and Cash, referred
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Speaker 3: to this home as our dream home where they wanted.
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Speaker 2: To watch their kids grow up. I get that.
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Speaker 3: So when that dream is gone, when that dream doesn't
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Speaker 3: exist anymore, it's almost like a rub to be in
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Speaker 3: this place that you thought was going to be one
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Speaker 3: thing and now it's another. And I just think that
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Speaker 3: that is just that's a heavy It's almost like an
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Speaker 3: albatross swaying you down and keeping you in the past.
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Speaker 3: It kind of keeps one foot in your past. Now.
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Speaker 3: I do know a lot of folks want to keep
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Speaker 3: their homes because a they don't have a choice, like
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Speaker 3: that's where they have to live, they can't afford to move,
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Speaker 3: but b because they want their kids to have some
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Speaker 3: stability and normalcy and just a space that they're familiar with.
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Speaker 3: I know that that weighs into a lot of folks
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Speaker 3: decisions about whether or not to keep a home or not.
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Speaker 2: But they are moving.
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Speaker 1: On and eye has gone, so the house should go
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Speaker 1: to For.
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Speaker 2: Me, that absolutely is a non starter.
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Speaker 1: Did you know that you have had a widow?
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Speaker 2: You know what?
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Speaker 3: I would have put an s on that or like,
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Speaker 3: I just knew that he had a lot of women
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Speaker 3: and probably some are still alive and some might have died.
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Speaker 2: Like I don't know.
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Speaker 1: He was married to one.
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Speaker 2: That's it. He only had one.
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Speaker 1: Why he's not a polygamist. I mean, yes, he was
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Speaker 1: only Okay you're talking about Oh yeah, it made clay
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Speaker 1: boy house.
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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking of all the women around.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't married to all of them at the same time,
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Speaker 1: of course not. But I did not know this. But
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Speaker 1: he died in twenty seventeen, and his wife, Crystal Hefner,
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Speaker 1: is now engaged after a year of dating. Good for her.
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Speaker 1: Crystal is what now thirty nine?
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Speaker 2: Yes, thirty nine, thirty nine years age gap and he
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Speaker 2: was nine. He died at ninety one in twenty seventeen.
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Speaker 1: Hey, when you know, you know? But what I am
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Speaker 1: saying here is that doesn't matter. A year doesn't matter.
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Speaker 1: What are the rules of Uh, he's been dead for
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Speaker 1: several years. He only dated somebody for a year and
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Speaker 1: then God and gen. I don't see any issue here.
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Speaker 3: The question that people are asked is do you think
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Speaker 3: an engagement after one year of dating is too soon?
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Speaker 3: What if you're a widow. I don't think that should
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Speaker 3: matter at all. I think you can still honor, especially
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Speaker 3: if you you know the person who passed was somebody
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Speaker 3: who was the love of your life or someone you
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Speaker 3: had a beautiful relationship with, I think you can still
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Speaker 3: honor them. I don't think anyone who truly loves no
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Speaker 3: other person would want the person they're leaving behind to
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Speaker 3: be alone and sad, So I don't. I don't think
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Speaker 3: there were rules behind that. I think it's personal. I
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Speaker 3: think it's individual.
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Speaker 1: It's sad. I want you to be alone and missing
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Speaker 1: me every day the rest of your life. I don't
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Speaker 1: want you happy going out to movie horror movies with
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Speaker 1: some duty and popcorn.
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Speaker 3: I think I could never do that, though I couldn't
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Speaker 3: watch horror movies again.
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Speaker 1: Really. Oh so, y'all go see a rom com together?
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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know how we got there or went there,
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Speaker 3: but no, I want none of that.
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Speaker 1: But there's no issue there, I mean, I.
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Speaker 3: Think so an engagement, people get engaged within momsw long.
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Speaker 1: When you're loon before you got engaged, Well was a
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Speaker 1: long one.
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Speaker 3: First one, first one was I mean I was so young,
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Speaker 3: but it was a year.
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Speaker 1: It was a year, no, no, no, no, before they dated
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Speaker 1: a year then got engaged, So you dated for how long? Engaged?
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Speaker 3: I dated a year and then got engaged for a year,
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Speaker 3: so for two years. Second time, this is a little.
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Speaker 1: This is a little you know, you talked about this before.
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Speaker 2: It's fine.
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Speaker 3: I got engaged after let me see, wait, hold on,
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Speaker 3: get four months. I got engaged after four months, and
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Speaker 3: I got married after ten months of meeting him.
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Speaker 1: Wow, you really thought I was dragging my feet.
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Speaker 3: Then, Jesus, what's what are your timelines?
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Speaker 1: Longer much? Two years? I think? And uh, you know
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Speaker 1: what year? Probably a year on the first one. Okay,
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Speaker 1: it was.
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Speaker 3: A year on the first one for me, and even
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Speaker 3: shorter the second.
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Speaker 1: The first one and the second one, Oh my god.
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Speaker 3: Okay, that's the third one going to be Oh I
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Speaker 3: ki tak tic talk.
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Speaker 2: I'm kidding.
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Speaker 1: Okay, next up here, we've known some people personally who
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Speaker 1: have done this, but they have a divorce is it
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Speaker 1: called divorce party or a divorce a divorce party? Okay, yes,
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Speaker 1: but these things they feel im poor taste to me.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about HGTV star Christina Hack celebrated her divorce
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Speaker 1: being finalized with a party of sorts. You go out
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Speaker 1: with your friends. It's one thing like look this, Christina
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Speaker 1: Hack just did this kind of a smaller thing. Couple
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Speaker 1: of friends out toasting glasses. Supposed it is insta though. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so it looks like a celebration of your marriage ending,
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Speaker 1: which is fine by me if you want to do that,
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Speaker 1: but some will say it's impoor taste.
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Speaker 3: So look again, I'm gonna stand here saying I'm not
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Speaker 3: going to judge what anyone else chooses to do. However,
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Speaker 3: if it were for me, I don't think it's a
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Speaker 3: bad thing. I think when people come up and say
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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry you're getting divorced, a lot of times
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Speaker 3: I would say, no, actually, it's a relief, so you
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Speaker 3: could congratulate me instead of feel sorry for me. But
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Speaker 3: it is one of those moments where I think, for me,
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to post, like I could see myself
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Speaker 3: going out and clinking a glass, but posting it is
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Speaker 3: kind of rubbing it in the faces not only of
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Speaker 3: the ex but the exes family, and if you have
16:13
Speaker 3: children with that person, I don't know what message that
16:16
Speaker 3: sends as well. I think that that's the consideration I
16:19
Speaker 3: would have, just the ex the exes family members, former
16:23
Speaker 3: friends who might have gotten caught in the crosshairs, and
16:25
Speaker 3: then children if they're involved. I think sometimes it can
16:27
Speaker 3: come off as yeah, in poor taste.
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Speaker 2: I guess it is the best way to put it
16:31
Speaker 2: what it is. But to each his own.
16:33
Speaker 3: I mean, you know what, like I don't know what
16:35
Speaker 3: someone went through. You know what did she go through
16:37
Speaker 3: to get to a place where she finally was able
16:39
Speaker 3: to get divorced? Or say I want a divorce? So
16:41
Speaker 3: maybe she needs to let off some steam and to celebrate.
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Speaker 1: You know What's that? We use this quote in our
16:46
Speaker 1: morning run. I think recently, if you can't be happy
16:50
Speaker 1: with what you have, at least be happy with what
16:52
Speaker 1: you escaped.
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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, and that could exactly be I think it
16:57
Speaker 3: is for a lot of people. Sometimes breakups, divorce are
17:00
Speaker 3: exactly that.
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Speaker 1: All right. The final thing here is this quote, the
17:04
Speaker 1: pressure to be married to men is a conspiracy. Now
17:08
Speaker 1: that quote comes from an actress. Now when you hear
17:10
Speaker 1: that initially without context, or do you get curious or
17:13
Speaker 1: do you react? How do you take that?
17:16
Speaker 2: I get curious? I would I would like to ask
17:18
Speaker 2: a few follow ups.
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Speaker 1: That's fair. But we talked about Anna Camp, who was
17:21
Speaker 1: of Pitch Perfect, and.
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Speaker 3: She's on this new season of You, which I've yet stream,
17:26
Speaker 3: but I've watched all the other seasons. So I'm actually excited.
17:29
Speaker 3: I didn't realize she was on this new season of You.
17:32
Speaker 3: But she's been married twice before.
17:35
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's not just us. I always feel like
17:37
Speaker 1: nobody else and now everybody's.
17:39
Speaker 2: Got to go.
17:40
Speaker 1: It's a thing.
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Speaker 3: Right. So she had two marriages, two men, that both
17:44
Speaker 3: ended in divorce, and now she has posted on Instagram,
17:48
Speaker 3: I guess making it official just recently that she is
17:51
Speaker 3: with a woman.
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Speaker 1: Okay, fine, but that shock people, surprise people. But she
17:57
Speaker 1: used that line that the pressure to be married to
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Speaker 1: men is a conspiracy.
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Speaker 2: I don't understand that. I don't.
18:08
Speaker 1: It sounds like you're saying women don't have the freedom
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Speaker 1: to explore, to be themselves. They don't have the freedom
18:14
Speaker 1: to go back and forth. They don't like there's pressure
18:17
Speaker 1: to possibly always identify as this, or label yourself or
18:20
Speaker 1: put yourself in this group or that group. I took
18:23
Speaker 1: it as that. Now, who is part of the conspiracy?
18:26
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I took it as that. Well.
18:27
Speaker 3: I do think, you know, maybe even ten years ago, fifteen,
18:31
Speaker 3: twenty years ago, that might be more of something that
18:33
Speaker 3: I could get behind.
18:34
Speaker 2: But I do think now, especially.
18:36
Speaker 3: Having young girls now, who are nineteen and twenty two.
18:39
Speaker 3: I mean, I just think it's so accepted to explore.
18:42
Speaker 3: And I mean, maybe it's where you live in the country,
18:45
Speaker 3: maybe it's your family. But I do think now, more
18:47
Speaker 3: than ever before, I think people are celebrating and even
18:51
Speaker 3: leaning into the options that they feel like they have,
18:55
Speaker 3: that there aren't societal norms to the extent that you
18:57
Speaker 3: can't be with who you want to be with and
18:59
Speaker 3: you can't love who you want to love. You might
19:01
Speaker 3: get judgment still, but I don't know about a larger conspiracy.
19:05
Speaker 3: I don't know.
19:06
Speaker 2: I've never been in that situation, so I don't.
19:08
Speaker 3: Know been in which one where I felt like I
19:10
Speaker 3: was being pressured to be with men. I just well,
19:14
Speaker 3: you didn't just to be pressure I just like I
19:16
Speaker 3: just like men.
19:17
Speaker 2: So it just kept it easy, I guess, you know.
19:19
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, do you feel like there's
19:21
Speaker 3: a conspiracy against you or that you have to be
19:23
Speaker 3: with women?
19:25
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know how you're going to finish that.
19:27
Speaker 1: But yes, there's a conspiracy. But no, I look, I
19:31
Speaker 1: love this And we've been talking so much about relationships.
19:33
Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about relationships more coming up in
19:36
Speaker 1: the next, the next weeks and months. Yes, if folks
19:40
Speaker 1: haven't heard, we'll get into that later. But it's like
19:42
Speaker 1: everybody's going through it. Everybody's going through something, and these
19:46
Speaker 1: are folks go through the names here, the Drek Kimsley,
19:51
Speaker 1: Steve Gutenberg, Jessica Simpson, Jeneral Lopez, Jessica Alba, all of
19:58
Speaker 1: those folks. At some point, I I think in the
20:00
Speaker 1: past twelve to eighteen months, we have seen some beautiful
20:03
Speaker 1: picture of how wonderful their relationship was.
20:06
Speaker 3: Yeah.
20:06
Speaker 1: That look, folks, if that tells you anything, you think
20:10
Speaker 1: you're the only one going through it, you're not. And
20:12
Speaker 1: I know your neighbor they look so perfect over there,
20:14
Speaker 1: they're not. Everybody's going through something. So I've loved doing
20:18
Speaker 1: I do Part two because it is a part of
20:20
Speaker 1: a community, and everybody can be a part of a community.
20:22
Speaker 1: So just people always keep that in mind.
20:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's so important.
20:27
Speaker 3: And when you see celebrities and I think there's one
20:29
Speaker 3: of those magazines that has a page that says they're
20:32
Speaker 3: just like us, but truly they are. I mean, you
20:35
Speaker 3: know everyone they show relationships, well, they'll show them like
20:39
Speaker 3: being in line at Walmart buying you know dog food.
20:42
Speaker 3: But you know, I think sometimes people think that if
20:45
Speaker 3: you've got money, or you have fame, or you have
20:47
Speaker 3: some sort of success in your life, that's somehow you're
20:49
Speaker 3: immune or insulated from relationship drama. And it's just certainly
20:53
Speaker 3: not the case.
20:53
Speaker 1: They're just like us. They're just like that, I need this.
20:55
Speaker 1: Then they should be in the corner curled up crying,
20:57
Speaker 1: because that would be just like me. That's more so
21:00
Speaker 1: how I am usually, folks. Look, we always, always, always
21:03
Speaker 1: appreciate you all being a part of the conversation engaging
21:06
Speaker 1: with us, because we absolutely love doing this thing. A
21:08
Speaker 1: lot of news out there, folks are splitting up, finding love,
21:11
Speaker 1: they're healing, they're throwing divorced parties, they're going back to college.
21:14
Speaker 1: But whatever you're going through at the time, maybe it
21:16
Speaker 1: is a divorce at this time, maybe you're feeling a
21:19
Speaker 1: little lost, Folks, you are not alone. We have folks here.
21:23
Speaker 1: We have some experience, hard earned, hard one. We weren't
21:27
Speaker 1: trying to earn it, no, but we have it now.
21:30
Speaker 1: But at anytime we can lend our experience to some
21:33
Speaker 1: of your questions as well. We appreciate doing so.
21:35
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21:37
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