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Episode 39: Video Games in Wrestling, Different Wrestling Styles, and more! · WCHS Network Podcasts

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Are you ready right, my said, Oh yeah, Jeff dealing boot Wheeler,
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dealing the cream of the clock better. I got one hundred and forty
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one and two thirsty tiens of winning. But brother, I am bad,
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and they know I'm bad. I'm the Maggy Hour, the never the power.
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You speak this dot, It's show time, coach. Welcome to the
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Grill Out from the heart of Silli in West Virginia. Here's your host,
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Hollywood Jeff Petty. Hello, ladies, gentlemen, are welcome. I'm back
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to the Grim Hunts episode thirty nine. I am your host, Hollywood Jeff
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Petty, and I'm joined by Josh Cole Babe, Yeah, and our well
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current defending raining defending Yeah, predictions heavyweight champion Jason Likings, the Reflection of
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Deception. Yeah, you have too much fun with this? Yeah yeah,
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I mean there's there's nothing wrong with that. No, I mean someone's gotta
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have fun while recording things. Yeah, yeah, I get. I'll be
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honest. I get a little a little uptight at times. I know,
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we all know. Yeah, I'm a little a little high strung at times.
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Let's go with the flow, just roll with it, and that's what
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rolling, Rolling, Rolling, rolling the look that Jason has given Josh right,
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now, what you're going to do now? Thank you so much.
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I missed the days before you were on the show. I have to refer
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to those as the golden times. Why nobody listened to them? So yeah,
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oh man, but yeah, welcome to the Girl app Episode thirty nine.
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What are we talking about today? We got a couple of things on
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the agenda, of course, we're going to have on this day in wrestling
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history. Later on we're gonna talk about the main event. We have a
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lot to cover in the main event, a lot of local shows going on
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this upcoming weekend. Everyone decided to do it all this weekend. It's the
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first week of June. You know what, I'm glad. I'm glad that
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local wrestling is picking up, absolutely, you know. It warms my heart.
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But that could also be the cholester on blood pressure, right, I
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don't know, fair enough, fair enough, so but yeah, no,
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we're going to talk about that first thing that we're going we are blood pressure.
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No, no, no, I'll talk about your blood pressure. Okay,
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good, I don't want to talk about that. No, I don't
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want to be Yeah, I'm sorry, that's okay. I'll live. But
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on one topic that I have been wanting to cover on the show for quite
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a while is video games merchandising. I mean, that's that's a big part
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of merchandising with professional wrestling, especially ww like they've they have kind of cornered
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that market a little bit, kind of it's kind of been their own thing
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for a long time. But yeah, and everybody here, everybody that is
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a professional wrestling fan, not well, mostly most professional wrestling fans have had
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some type of experience with a wrestling video game, whether that be No Mercy
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sixty four, SmackDown, Here Comes to Pain, smack Down, Shut your
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Mouth, the new two K games. You also have Fire Pro Wrestling on
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PlayStation. You have the old Arcade games with the with your your old school
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WWF wrest yep, yep. So yeah, that's just that's one thing that
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I have wanted to discuss on here because it helps you when you're a kid
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and you got your favorite wrestler. It's really cool that you can pull up
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you can play video game, and you can play as your favorite wrestler.
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Yeah, so that is kind of it's it's kind of a cool thing for
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me. One of the first video games, and to me, one of
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the greatest wrestling video games of all time that I played as a child is
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SmackDown Here Comes to Pain. Yeah, with Brack Klesner on the cover.
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I just it was just to me, it was just so cool playing playing
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it. You want to I think that game now on eBay goes for about
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ninety dollars. Really, you only kind of sold it for that much.
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Do you have one? I used to Oh, man, I still do.
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I'll get into it just a minute. So yeah you could, uh,
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I mean, I guess technically you could put that on eBay and make
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about make close to one hundred dollars off of it. It just I don't
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know, maybe, and the graphics were cool. I think they had shut
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Shut your mouth before that. That was right after WWE went went from w
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F to WWE. Everybody talks about Mersey sixty four. Yeah, that is
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to some people, that is the number one wrestling video game of all time.
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And also from my understanding, it's been modeled a lot. Yeah,
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you can have current wrestlers in it. Yeah, like that's that's kind of
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that. That is a big thing that a lot of people do with it.
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And also apparently, according to Kenny Omega, this that that engine that
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they used the No No Mercy sixty four. Maybe it was the engine,
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it was something to do. They took inspiration from No Mercy sixty four and
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brought that to AW Fight Forever, Yeah, which from what I've heard,
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I haven't played the game, but from what I've heard it has not had
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very good reviews. Yeah. I haven't played Fight Forever. Yeah, no
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I have to. I have not. I just have an engine wrestling game
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in general, because I've just gotten out of wrestling games, or not wrestling,
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it's just fighting games in general. Oh really, Yeah, I don't
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know. Just I can play for a little bit at the story moon and
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I'm just done. Do you just just lose interest? Yeah? Pretty much?
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Fair enough? But is it just too repetitive? I think so?
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Okay, I mean it makes sense like a I don't know, Jeff,
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So You're was your first wrestling game experience? Here comes the Pain? Oh?
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Yeah, yeah that was my That was my very first one. What
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about you, josh? Ah? It might have been on Nintendo sixty four
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WCWNW Revenge. Oh god, such a good one. Yeah. I also
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really enjoyed WCWNWO Versus the World was that on sixty four, Yes I was
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sixty four. But my first show in my age here. My first wrestling
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game experience was WWF WrestleMania from nineteen eighty nine on the original NES. You're
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old, I know I played one on SUPERNA. I can't remember what it's
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called. Yeah, you see. One of my favorite wrestling games of all
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time, though, isn't even a WWF or wc EW or a New Japan
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or anything. It's Tecmo Pro Wrestling from the NES. Is that the same
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same people that made Tech Mobile? Possibly I have not heard anything about this
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one. Please do tagle, sir. It was just a fun game.
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One of the moves that you could do was the big Swing and you could
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throw them out of the ring. But one wrestler individual, I don't remember
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his name off the top of my head, but my brother and I would
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get in fights over who got to play as this guy because his finisher was
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a Tiger suplex like a Tiger driver. Nope, sorry, dragon suplex.
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Oh okay, yeah, okay, And you just you couldn't kick out of
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it. You just couldn't kick out brilliantly. So it was just it was
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overpowered a little bit. Oh yeah, oh this is before. This is
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long before the days of patch notes coming in and nerfing things. Yeah,
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all of the elden Ring people out there, I'm looking at you, Rivers
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of Blood. But I mean I also have a wide collection of pro wrestling
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video games. So, speaking of collections, I was a very big fan
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of what is currently now the two K series. Before that it was just
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WWE, and before that it was Smack Numbers a roll. Before that it
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was SmackDown. Yeah, it's a long series, but yeah, I started
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back that with what was it, Know Your Role I think on PS two
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or Shut Your Mouth one of two ye, shut shut your Mouth was right
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before. Yeah, so I had those. I had Here Comes to Pain,
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and I had every game up through Smack Numbers Rot until twenty ten.
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Then that's when I kind of just got out of fighting games in general.
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Then I got back. I had two K fourteen and two K eighteen,
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so I had a big collection of that series for a while there. My
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brother he actually has he has a PlayStation two and he has a lot of
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the old Smack versus role games. Yeah, he even has oh what is
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it? I think it's w C W nWo Revenge for PS one. I
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had. There was w W Thunder on PS one. It's it's not Thunder.
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It is a w C I can't remember. Maybe it is Revenge.
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It is a w CW game on PlayStation one. I know that he bought
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it, ironically enough, because my brother is this kind of he's very good
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at bartering. He doesn't give himself enough credit. But I wouldn't mean that.
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It was only sixty four. Oh, it was, there was some
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it was it's some game on on It's not It's not Thunder though it's on
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PlayStation one. I cannot remember what the name of it is. I think
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it may be w C W nWo. It does kind of fit the time
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because that was was it Mayhem? Oh no, no, no, no,
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it was Nitro. It was Nitro. I did play it about a
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year or so ago. It was It was rather interesting. But uh yeah,
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no SmackDown when when I remember, I do remember when SmackDown versus Roll
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first came out. That was a big deal and the music in it was
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awesome. They had a lot of licensed music in it from what I remember.
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In that World's Good Lode. Yeah, by what was it power Man
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five thousand. Yeah, and fun fun fact about them, the front man
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for power Man five thousand is the little brother to Rob Zombie. Yeah.
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So you know, just a little little interesting fact there for you. Useless
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information, but it's it's there. Yeah. No, when World's Collide that
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that theme song just fit that game perfectly. You know, you got Vins
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on the cover with the one eye as blue, one eye as red.
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They really played up the SmackDown versus raw concept of the game. So it
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Yeah, but my favorite still is SmackDown Here comes to Pain. I don't
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know why. There's just a charge, there's a charm to it. I
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will say that's probably my favorite the whole series. Yeah, like it just
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I just I cannot exactly explain it. It just is. I've played all
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the two K games, well not all of them, I played a vast
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majority of them. They're great games for me. I think, like the
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graphics of the time are really good. Yes, the gameplay was just very
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smooth and very hard hitting, and like today, it's very simulated. It's
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not so much a fighting game anymore. It's more simulation. And that was
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really a fighting game, and you could also you could go and like you
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weren't limited strictly to the to the arena. You could move yourself around backstage.
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You can go back to the offices, you can even go out to
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the you can even go out to the streets and do do a dive off
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of like a off of some marquee somewhere onto onto the wrestler that is sitting
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laying on like a on like a car. And then when they do this,
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like in real life, you would be dead, okay, which is
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be honest, you'd be dead if you did this in real life. But
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like it's it's hilarious because they would jump off of their I think this is
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here comes to paint or shut your mouth. It's one of them that come
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off they land on the car and the car would explode and disappear. Okay,
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yeah, and then the then the wrestler that your opponents still laying there.
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But yeah, it's just it just kind of thanos delete just out of
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nowhere with a little mini explosion. Also, you could dave off of like
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the production trucks and stuff. There was a lot more variety. But one
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thing that I do think that does help wrestling video games these days, and
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it's kind of it sort of was starting with Smack then Versus role not not
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the first one, but later on is creat a wrestler. I know it's
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been in other other ones, but I'm talking about like online play of people
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sharing their creative wrestlers and also the fact that people get very detailed with them
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sometimes. Yeah, it's that's one of my favorite things about wrestling games anymore,
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is just creating wrestlers. Yeah, but I mean it's it's been in
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wrestling games for a long time. Yeah, I kind of realized that after
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I said it. I'm mainly talking about like like online creator share, like
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like people just just sharing their creations. I can't tell you how many different
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versions of different versions of Kenny Omega I had on two K before they did
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the online share. Like people would like post the specs of how to create
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them, like specifically the exact measurement of their face and whatever and tattoos,
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and I would do it a lot with like T and A wrestlers back in
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the two thousands. I did that once with Adam Baum for it was I
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want to say the Legends of WrestleMania one where then you could if you played
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like Smack dun Versus were All two thousand and nine. That entire roster would
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then be a part of your WrestleMania game as well. Wow, is that
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the Is that the game where they were a lot more tuney? No,
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that was WWE All Stars the Legends of WrestleMania one. It was kind of
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cartoony, but not as like you aren't jumping twenty feet up in the air.
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The thing that I didn't like about it is in order to the finisher,
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it had this sequence of pretty much like quick quick button things, like
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a like a like a mini game almost kind of Okay, actually I did
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play this. I remember this now. Yeah, not to be confused with
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Legends of Wrestling, which is another game all of it, another trilogy of
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games all on its own, which had a great roster, but not really
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anyone looked like anyone they said it was supposed to and it was super repetitive.
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Yeah, I can see that. I'm looking at images right now.
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I did. But I did play Legends in WrestleMania. I do remember that
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because I know the first thing I noticed was like with it because I picked
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the Andre, I knewho Andre was. I was introduced to it a lot
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of old school wrestlers because of this, which does another thing with like wrestling
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video game, you get introduced to a whole like if you don't know like
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if you don't know this wrestler and you you you learn about them in the
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wrestling video game. It kind of expands your repertoire. I think this was
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also one of the first games to have Andre the Giant as Andre the Giant
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really, I think, I'm not positive. I know like Fire Pro Wrestling
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had characters who were based off of which I have a Fire Pro Wrestling.
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Yeah, that game does have a lot of potential. I cannot figure out
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how to play it. Fire Pro Wrestling too is a lot better, is
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it? Yeah? Okay, I have I have the first one. Okay,
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again, not to keep going back to Kene Omega. It was because
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it had to the new Japan roster. I wanted it for my PlayStation.
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Well. Fire Pro Wrestling two for PS two is still I think one of
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the best ones. Okay. Actually I'm thinking of Fire Pro Wrestling World.
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Okay, yeah, that's on That is on PS four. Okay, I
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never played that one. I can't mate. You know what, if you're
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listening to this message, me tell me how I'm supposed to play this game.
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I can't figure it out. I do like the arkadi graphics that it
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has. I just I just can't figure it out. Well. New Japan
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came up with a wrestling game four n sixty four at the same time as
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No Way Out, which I also have, but the entire thing is in
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Japanese. So was it Wrestle Kingdom? Yes, okay, all right,
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the first one? Yes, okay, so I think they came out with
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two. Okay, so I would take like my phone because I got it
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somewhat recently, but I would take my phone and put the trains later up
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so I would be able to tell who was who and what was being said.
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Okay, I know. Yeah, I haven't played that one. I
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did. I did sort of research it a little bit because so I was
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one of my one of my top five favorite wrestlers of all time. It's
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mitsu Har Mazawa and he is in that game. He's he wears, He's
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Emmial Green Silver. Hanson's also in Yeah. Yes, Stan Hansen is huge
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in Japan. Yeah, like just and he and and like if you like
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JBL, you'll love Stan Hansen because you can like I was introduced to JBL
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as a kid, I've been the clothesline from Hell all of that. I
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get older as to what I've said on this brogram. Before I get I
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get shown Japanese wrestling through Kenney Omega because there's Gocad in them. Then I
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start saying, Oh, there's this whole new world out there with this,
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and then I find Stan Hansen with Bruiser Birdie. I'm wearing my Bruiser Birdie
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T shirt right now, and I see where JBL got a lot of his
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inspiration for. Yeah, he took a lot of inspiration from Stan Hansen.
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But yeah, like wrestling, video games just in general are they are.
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They're a great way to introduce people to different different wrestlers. Like I said,
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with the Legends of Wrestlemaniam, I knew Andre, I knew Hulk,
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I knew the Ultimate Warrior, and I knew Sergeant Slaughter and Jake excuse me,
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Jake the Snake and them. But there's a whole host of people that
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I didn't I really wasn't. I didn't know that much about People are gonna
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hate me for this, but I was like, what nine at the time,
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I don't know when this game came out. Maybe I was a little
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older than that. Two thousand and nine, so I was thirteen, and
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that's where I was introduced to the road. Did you say Legends of WrestleMania
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came out in two thousand and nine, Yes, okay, the release date
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was March nineteenth, two thousand and nine. Okay, Well, then I
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am mistaken on my first Andrea Dagiina appearance. Okay, when was he?
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That would have been the Xbox game of WrestleMania twenty one. Oh okay,
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yeah, where it still has, at least in my opinion, one of
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the most unfortunate wordings of a sentence ever in a wrestling game. Which so
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Eric Bischoff is trying to get you ready for your WrestleMania experience. Yeah,
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okay, So he's bringing in all these wrestlers that you have to face to
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get ready. And so when Eric Bischoff is talking about Andre, he says,
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and I quote, I've literally had to go through hell to get this
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person. And then it's Andre. So you know, maybe maybe you don't
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take that take Yeah, yeah, maybe that's not a good note. Yeah,
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maybe maybe you don't go with that one. Yeah, I'm kind of
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good. I actually had that one. I never had an Xbox original Xbox.
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I had that copy of that game for Xbox for some reason, and
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I kept trying to get an original Xbox as a kid. My mom wouldn't
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go for it. She's like, oh, you already gotta play station.
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One of my biggest issues with that game is you would have to do a
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creator wrestler to do the story mode. Okay, but your creator wrestler only
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gets X amount of stats, which is fine, that's how it works now.
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But your very first wrestler won't get past like sixty eight overall. So
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then your next wrestler, Like, if you want a better wrestler, yeah,
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you have to take the stats that you already used for the sixty eight
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and then your second one will be like a seventy five or a seventy three.
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That's a weird mechanic for a game. And in order to get better
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wrestlers, you have to play it more. And so I did the story
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mode like ten times. Oh my god, yeah, so I know I'm
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not mistaken on the I've literally gone through Hell Wow, that is that's a
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weird mechanic for a video game. Yeah, Like, and I'm listen one
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of some of my favorite games are Dark Souls. I love Dark the Dark
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Soul series, and it's a difficult game. It's a very difficult game,
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but it's like difficult to the point to where if I mess up, I
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know it's my fault. Yeah. With that, that's just making it hard
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for the sake of making it hard. Yes, Like that's I don't I
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don't agree what that was soever. But one thing that I absolutely missed from
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wrestling video games is to create a story. Oh yeah, Like I absolutely
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loved that. I had one story that I had spent I would say easily
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two and a half weeks working on no matches whatsoever. But the entire thing
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was Dusty Rhodes terrorizing Jerry the King Lawler. Why why not? True?
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Like the very first thing Jerry Lawler coming out, you know, under the
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Titan Tron and then you hear Dusty song start, you know, Oh Mary
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Come and Dream, and then he just falls from the top of the Titan
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Tron and lands on Jerry Lawler and that's where it begins. And then you
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know, eventually later on you have Jerry Lawler who has had this huge mental
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breakdown, and you know you could do the backstage segments where you get you
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know, you have two individuals, let's say Dusty Roads and Jerry Lawler and
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Dusty Rhods will then take Jerry Lawler and throw them into a car and it
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hits the windshield and it cracks. Okay, but you could also do it
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to where it was only Jerry Lawler. So now in my story, Jerry
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Lawler has had such a bad mental break that he's beating himself up. You're
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just gonna give it that you gave you a PTSD an here's a cow bell.
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Yeah, And it was one of the most brilliant things I had ever
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created in a story, because then it goes after that, like Jerry Lawler's
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in the back and he's sitting on a couch and it's like he's talking to
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a psychiatrist or psychologist, and really all it is is Earl Hebner. And
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so then I have Earl Hebner say why are you talking to me? I'm
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not a doctor, I'm a referee. And yeah, it was just yeah,
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that's that's it's great, that's a that's awesome. We made Cowboy Bob
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Orton be this like Jerry Actric who didn't remember anything who just thought he was
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at a retirement community and kept forgetting that he was in a match, and
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all he would ever say was jello cup. Oh, that's great, that
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is that is great, all right. If you if you want to talk
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back, we are actually going to have a discussion on different professional wrestling styles.
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So stay tuned. It's time for more of the grill out here.
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It's Hollywood Jeff Petty. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to the Grill Ounce.
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My name is Hollywood Jeff Petty. I'm your host. My two co
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hosts are Josh Cole, Bye bye, coming to you from the past,
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in the future, yes, yes, recording times and then the rating and
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defending Grill Outs Predictions Champion, the Reflection of Perfection Jason Likins. Was Josh
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even still on the show at this point because I've decided to keep him here?
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Yeah? Oh god, So we just went through an entire discussion about
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wrestling video games and how are they playing to the wrestling world. Another discussion
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that I've been wanting to have on the show for quite some time, even
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before the first episode. This was kind of being pitched around a little bit
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amongst the network is different wrestling styles. Now, when people think of professional
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wrestling, they think, you know, people who are not professional wrestling fans,
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they think of professional wrestling, they think of, you know, some
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guy hitting another dude with a chair and this and that, and you know,
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pulling punches and all that. It's a lot more complex than that.
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Yeah, there's a lot more different styles than that in the world of professional
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wrestling. Yeah. You one that we are exposed to a lot here in
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the United States is what I basically call the WWE style. Yes, it's
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a lot more softer, not that that's a bad thing, it's a lot
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more uh grandiose, I guess, like with the presentation of it, with
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all the all the lights and the music and the pyro and everything, you
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don't have the hard hittingness that you do. And there's people who are you
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know who who follow the Wrestling Observer newsletter religiously that do or that are not
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fans of that style of professional wrestling, but in my opinion, it works.
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It brings in a lot of money. Yeah, I mean different strokes
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for different folks. Yes, absolutely. I'm not saying there's any one right
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or wrong style no of professional wrestling. You know, it all plays into
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a part that is professional wrestle. Yeah. And you'll have some wrestling shows
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that will have the same style from beginning to end, right. Then you'll
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have some wrestling shows that will have a variety. In my opinion, I
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prefer wrestling shows like that. They have different varieties that will have, you
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know, your hard hitting match, your submission match, your comedy match,
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and they'll even have maybe a hardcore match or two in there or what some
27:22
people now have dubbed it. And it's been like this for years. Death
27:26
matches me personally rules yea. For me. Personally, I'm not that big
27:33
of a fan of death matches. I don't knock anybody that does. I'm
27:36
actually in a Facebook group of death match fans because my brother's a fan of
27:41
it. It's not I will watch it from time to time, but it's
27:47
kind of to me. I don't want to see every single I don't want
27:49
to see exploding stuff every single match, Like I want it's got to be
27:55
special. It can't, like it's got to be a novelty. Almost all
27:59
the time loses its impact. It's like it's a scripted sport. Why are
28:04
you doing that to your body that much? Yeah? And also really deathmatch
28:08
wrestling again, nothing against them, you know, And we're talking mainly a
28:11
combat Zone wrestling GCW promotions such as that. It is sort of an underground
28:18
thing. It's sort of like the counterculture within within wrestling. It's like punk
28:22
rock almost. That's the best way I can I can describe it to people
28:26
who are not as big of a wrestling fan that are, you know,
28:30
listening to the show, Like, hey, you know, these guys kind
28:32
of know what they're talking about. I think what you combined all of our
28:36
years of being professional wrestling fans, it's probably fifty or sixty years altogether amongst
28:41
the three of us. Well, I mean over over thirty of those are
28:42
going to be me. So yeah, I'm almost I turned thirty next year.
28:48
Yeah, I'm a young and well, Josh, what's your favorite like
28:52
style of wrestling? Like, do you have a style per se that you
28:57
find more enjoy than others, Like I really enjoy like British chain wrestling,
29:07
like Stephen ring Regal was one of my favorites of all time to watch.
29:11
I not necessarily a favorite, but as long as you can tell me a
29:15
great story at whatever style, it doesn't really matter as long, Yeah,
29:22
as long as you have a coherent story within the match, like whether that
29:26
be you know you're playing off of an injury, you're playing off of stuff
29:30
that you know, outside elements that have led up to this match that are
29:34
kind of making callbacks to it. I always like it when there's like a
29:37
little callback to a previous event within the wrestling storyline. That and also like
29:45
if I can watch it in that moment believe what I'm seeing is you know
29:49
real? You got me. If I'm seeing stuff and it's like uh,
29:53
then I'm out of it. Just you just quickly just check out. I
29:59
hate see moves that. It's like like some of them where people just have
30:03
to stand there and wait for the other person to do their thing, Like
30:06
why yeah, a quick, quick little example of that. Actually, So
30:11
for me personally, I don't live and die by the sword with Dave Meltzer.
30:17
I just don't I've said it before in the program, he is a
30:21
very good uh like, he's he's a very like if you go back and
30:26
you follow all, you watch all the five star matches that he has or
30:30
whatever, it's a good way to get get exposed, get introduced to to
30:37
Japanese professional wrestling. One example of that, though, and it was a
30:41
five star match, it was rated one, was Jericho and Kenny at Wrestling
30:45
Kingdom twelve. I think the double main event, Kenny's going for the terminator
30:53
dive to the outside. Jericho, who doesn't look like he's you know,
30:59
he really it didn't look like he was selling much. He had his head
31:03
up, he was looking he was waiting for a spot. Yeah. Because
31:06
of that one, and maybe this is me nitpicking, because of that one
31:08
little spot right there, I will not give it a five star match.
31:12
And I'm a big Kenny Omega fan. I think I absolutely hate seeing is
31:18
double knee spots in the corner where the person who is taking the move is
31:23
holding themselves like waiting for the person to jump and then hit them there,
31:29
but they are holding themselves up like the only way that this is happening is
31:33
the fact that your arms and Hanes are holding the ropes and you are holding
31:37
yourself there waiting. Yeah, like in for lack of a better term and
31:44
k fabe terms, why are you holding yourself up waiting for them? Yeah?
31:48
Yeah, it just it just looks weird. Yeah, it really because
31:52
with professional wrestling, I don't like saying fake because it's not fake. It
31:59
is predetermined, it is scripted. Yes, it is choreographed. We can
32:04
say all that it is not fake, but then you see stuff like that,
32:07
like the example you just gave, and people will mean it. I
32:12
look at this fake stuff, well, missus fake. Yeah. If you
32:14
go back to our Chris Statlander interview where she said that, you know she
32:17
was training to be a stunt woman, these are just these are stunt professionals,
32:22
yes, putting on a stunt show. When they hit the mat,
32:28
they're hitting the mat. It's not like they're hitting a pillow. No,
32:31
like it's it's a hard surface. It just happens to have some spring in
32:36
it. Yeah, and it's got a it's got a thin layer of padding
32:39
on it, very thin, like maybe an inch maybe an inch. But
32:45
that's also one reason why I really stick to enjoying technical wrestling because it's not
32:51
a lot of high impact moves. It's a lot of chain wrestling. You
32:53
know. I spent a lot of time doing amateur wrestling, which is pretty
32:58
much chain wrestling. Yeah. Yeah, and people like Zach Saber Junior,
33:06
Brian Danielson, Stephen Regel. I just always enjoyed watching another another one.
33:14
Brett Hart. Yeah, he's another another great chain wrestler. Terrible talker.
33:17
Oh, no charisma, none except for when he was really just kind of
33:22
going hard there right before he for ww Yeah, when he was just speaking
33:25
his mind. That was the best Brett Heart there was, exactly. I
33:30
only ever really saw w C W bretttheart, so I never got a high
33:34
opinion of themselves. God, is that is sad? Like that is that
33:43
is really not good Brett Hart at all. Yeah, that's maybe the worst
33:46
Brett Heart there is. Yeah, because like he had so much going on
33:50
in his life and even terrible music. Yes, which fun fact, speaking
33:55
of Bret Hart's music, not to go back to the last week's episode,
34:00
all of the music talk. The riff for his opening song was actually I
34:05
think that was a Jimmy Hart creation. Really, Yeah, I was listening
34:08
to an interview he like I think it was a Peter Rosenberg was interviewing him
34:13
and he was like he saw my brat hert Steme song and he was like,
34:15
wait a minute, the opening to it. He's like, yeah,
34:19
yeah, that that was I came up with that, Like, oh,
34:22
okay, it's kind of cool. Jimmy Hart's all over the yeah, but
34:25
no, like I'm I'm there with you on the chain wrestling. I do
34:30
enjoy good chain wrestling. I like, you know, to me, too
34:34
much of it can be can oversaturate a little bit. But if you can
34:37
do it in a creative way like a Brian Danielson, like a Zach Saber
34:40
Junior, I'm going to be invested in that. That's why I enjoy Japanese
34:46
wrestling so much aka Putu Ressu because it just it does come off very real
34:55
to me, Like it comes off almost like a shoot because like, you
35:00
know, you're not pulling punches on the guy. You know you are legitimately
35:05
trying like they're knocking each other out. It's just I it's it's much more
35:12
hard hitting. It's harder on your body. Is so much harder on your
35:15
body. I mean, if you if you listen to a Shinskan kno Kimora
35:19
match, and you're like, oh, you know shin skant Knokimore, the
35:22
King of strong Style. If you watch New Japan, that's pretty much every
35:25
match. Yes, it's it's entertaining, that's great, and and and and
35:30
it also falls under those those parameters of it. It does get a little
35:36
oversaturated to that to that extent, but I just I don't know when I
35:40
when I first saw Omega Okada one, that was my first first time I
35:46
was I ever watched a Japanese wrestling match. I'd never I had heard about,
35:52
you know, when we sent so and so to Japan so that they
35:54
can work on this. So and so was in Japan to work on this
35:58
when I first saw that, and you had your office Jason upstairs for me,
36:04
I think, if memory serves me correct, I watched it. I
36:07
immediately went upstairs and was telling you about it and talking about just how great
36:10
of a match it was that I just watched. I have no idea who
36:13
these two people are, and I was. I was hooked at that point
36:17
with it. I don't get a chance to follow it nearly as much as
36:21
I would like to, but it is still for me, it is my
36:25
favorite style of professional wrestling. And also it just some of the like some
36:30
people may complain about the production value, like not to get off of wrestling
36:35
styles, but the production value of New Japan where it is like they don't
36:38
go to all these grandiose arenas. They they will go to like it'd be
36:44
like, you know, WWE doing a house show here at here at the
36:46
coliseum, and they're going to oh no, not even at the Colisseum.
36:50
They're going to do it at like the Marmett Rec Center and they're going to
36:53
pack that, but then they're going to produce Monday Night rawll there. To
36:58
me, it's got it's just got charm to it with that. Yeah,
37:01
I mean, and you know, again this isn't wrestling styles, but even
37:07
just the smaller shows that they're doing with New Japan, I mean they just
37:13
have people coming out of like behind bleachers. Oh yeah, it's zero budget,
37:21
but it's still just great to watch. And they're also they're very tradition
37:24
heavy over there. It's just the culture of Japan in general. They like
37:30
if they come like the Tokyo down for example, there will always be Wrestle
37:35
Kingdom there. On January fourth, No matter what day of the week that
37:37
falls on, there will always be Wrestle Kingdom there. Yeah, and it's
37:42
just it's a traditional thing and it's going to be packed. Yeah, and
37:45
it's going to be packed and day and Dave Melcher is going to give everything
37:49
fifteen plus stars. Yeah. But but yeah, like and then they will
37:52
go right across the hall, right across the road. I think I think
37:57
it's uh Rio Goku Sumu Hall because that's where they do summa wrestling. They
38:00
do do it in that same venue that you're talking about. No, no,
38:04
exactly which one you're talking about. I think it's I can't remember the
38:07
exact name of the venue, but it is a they do summa wrestling there,
38:10
which is another huge thing with them. What are you going It's not
38:15
Asaka Joe Hall isn't No No, Osaka Joe Hall is a it is sort
38:22
of on the same level as the Tokyo do So because like, yeah,
38:27
and that's another thing with Dominion. It will always be at Osaka Joe Hall,
38:30
like it will always be in June beginning of June in Osaka Joe Hall.
38:36
Josh is there a style of wrestling that you just absolutely refuse to watch
38:42
mm hmm call on this one. Yeah, Well, I mean I'm just
38:47
wonderful put them on the spot. Well, I'm trying to get us back
38:51
to the Style company and that this also this this branching off. That's that's
38:58
how my brain works as well. Yeah, I mean, I don't mind
39:01
hardcore wrestling every now and then, but I think probably the deathmatch side of
39:07
it probably that. Like I I don't mind a little bit of hardcore,
39:12
but I don't. I mean, whenever people are stapling stuff to each other
39:17
like a little bit is fine, yeah, but whenever you just have two
39:22
people sitting in chairs across from each other and they're just using a stapler on
39:27
each other as though they're punching. It just it's to me, it's cheap.
39:34
I hate and I hate to say it that way. It to me,
39:36
it just comes off it's very cheap. I listen, I'm not gonna
39:39
go in there and have a staple gun put on. You know, I'm
39:44
not doing that. I'll be honest. I'm a, for lack of a
39:47
better term, I'm a whoosie when it comes to that point. But it
39:51
just it comes off as cheap to me. There is a time and place
39:53
for it. There's time and place for every every form of professional wrestling.
39:58
But when it's constantly that, and but it's constantly that, it does dilute
40:02
it. I don't mean to keep going back to that. Another thing is
40:05
with like deathmatch fans, they are highly loyal to it, like they are
40:12
rabbit almost for it. I mean that's fine. I think for me,
40:15
it's it's like hell and a cell. Okay, once you make it a
40:21
pay per view, you've lost it. It should never be that it's a
40:23
stipulation, So you shouldn't have a death match unless the combatants in that the
40:30
participants, they can't have a clean finish, you know, they just they're
40:36
so much heat between the two that they just want to go out and kill
40:40
each other. That's when you do it. You don't do it because oh
40:45
hey, uh we gotta sell at this house tonight. I'm gonna hit you
40:50
with a fluorescent light. Yeah. It's like why clip on X. The
40:54
other day, two dudes are a top of scapa thing suit plucks each other
40:58
off into a bed of bar brown that was suspended over a ring. It's
41:00
like why again. It It's it's kind of like those kind of like how
41:08
ECW was just, you know, just wild as could be, but the
41:15
fans were just they loved it. They ate all of it up. But
41:19
the thing is also with that, you're and again I hate to say this,
41:22
I'm not trying to sound disrespectful with this, you are catering to those
41:25
hardcore fans there, and that's part of the problem that happened with ECW.
41:30
But the best thing with that then is whenever McK foley came in and he
41:35
decided he was going to be the anti hardcore was so he would go in
41:37
and just chain wrestle. Yeah, like it. You know, you have
41:43
to have a little bit of stuff to create a great product. Not everything
41:46
can be staple, gun, chair shot, hit you with a bowling ball.
41:52
Yeah. So so here's here's my next question. This goes for both
41:54
of you. What are your thoughts on comedy wrestling. I don't mind it,
42:00
No, I think it's perfectly fine. I know how big, how
42:04
big of a fan of you are of Toriana, but it has to be
42:06
done in moderation. Yeah, you can't have every match like you can have
42:12
one match that is extremely comedy heavy, like let's say you have Toriano versus
42:15
Colt Cabana. Sure, but if you have six matches back to back to
42:21
back to back to back to back of all like that, then the first
42:24
one might be okay, but then you've gotten all the laughs out. Yeah,
42:30
it's like and and that also that goes back to like them repeating spots
42:36
throughout throughout a show. Aw actually did that. I can't remember what the
42:39
spot was, but it was on Dynasty. I think I had something to
42:43
do with the with the announced table. There was just three different matches that
42:45
had the same spot in it, and it's like it just crossed over too
42:50
much for me, and I'm like, and all in all, Dynasty was
42:53
a great show, but that one little part it's gone. And maybe it's
42:58
maybe it's me nitpicking. It's kind of like the Chris Jericho keny Omega match
43:01
into Tokyo dome. I thought that was a perfect match until I saw that.
43:06
When I saw that, I immediately took away five stars. There was
43:08
an old w c W pay per view for the life of me, I
43:13
don't remember which one, but three matches in a row someone came out interfered
43:19
disqualification. Three matches in a row, the same finish uncreative and lazy.
43:25
I mean, that's that's the best way to put that. I'll say.
43:30
With the comedy, like, I don't mind it if it's done well,
43:34
like for example the Samy's and Johnny Knoxville Mattress. That was good. I
43:37
like that. But when these in some of these indie events and they try
43:39
to get you to believe stuff that's just completely unbelievable, like shooting a gun
43:44
with your hand. You see that. You see stuff like that a lot
43:51
in DDT. I think part of it also depends on how out there it
43:58
is, Like whenever you have the the tag team that did like the snake
44:01
Charming and then caused everyone in the locker room to come out and they all
44:06
danced a sugar hill game and then there's one rather large individual who starts stripping.
44:10
You know, if you're going to do it fully commit to yeah,
44:15
you know it's yeah, no like and yeah you got everybody involved on that
44:21
one. It's there, there is, I mean, there is a time
44:22
and place for it. And the Orange Cassidy bits are good. Yeah,
44:27
Orange Cassie, I think I think he's very I would even I wouldn't say
44:30
Orange is even fully a comedy wrestler. Yeah, he like blends it.
44:35
Yeah, like ar truths. I would one hunt now Ron killings, no,
44:39
Ron Killings, And TNA was not a comedy wrestler. And if you
44:43
have never if you've never listened to the promos that he was cutting in DNA,
44:49
please go watch them. They like it is night and day to what
44:52
he is. Also the guy who's been like forty for forty years. Yeah,
44:55
he doesn't he does not age at all. He's like he's an fifties
45:00
I know that. But our truth, I would say, our truth one
45:02
hundred percent is a comedy wrestler now yeah, yeah, yeah. In Cold
45:08
Cabana, one hundred percent of comedy wrestler. Now yeah, Toriano, I
45:12
mean one hundred percent of comedy wrestler. And there's nothing wrong with that.
45:16
That's that's that's your stick, that's what you know. That's what you've done
45:20
to get over with the crowd. Well, I mean even in Stephen Regal
45:24
matches, he would throw comedy in there. You know, he'd be getting
45:29
back in the ring after you know, he's in the face of a fan
45:31
and he's getting back in the ring, but then he trips over the middle
45:35
rope. Yeah, you know, it's it's just it's the spots that make
45:38
everything because you have this really serious wrestler and then they do a comedy spot.
45:44
Yeah, I mean it does. It plays there. And also to
45:50
me, Regal real quick, Regal is very very underrated one. Yeah,
45:58
highly underrated. It wrestler should have had should have had at least one ragin
46:04
with He was never world champion, was he? No, he should have
46:07
at least had one rain at least WW. I don't know about else.
46:09
No, he was. I mean he wasn't heavyweight champion and WCW. The
46:14
most he got there was TV. Most he gotten WWE was intercontinental. Yeah
46:19
that's that's also. I don't think he needed the title. No, well
46:22
you got a point there. I just felt like he just he's one of
46:25
those individuals. It's kind of like how Razor was just one of those individuals
46:30
or even Jacob Snake. See I got other ones that are popping up in
46:34
my head who were not world champion. But excuse me, but we're world
46:37
champion material. And yeah that also, like with Regal showing, you know,
46:44
the little little comedy bits here and there, like Sammy's Ain doing the
46:47
comedy match with Johnny Knoxville, not to go back to Kenny Kenny's you know,
46:52
his little spots that he would do with like Toy when he had Toriano
46:55
in the ring, or some of the stuff that he would do in D
46:58
d T. That to me shows a very very well rounded wrestler, Like
47:02
they can kind of do what they can, kind of go in any direction
47:06
they need to. I don't see Stephen Regal doing death matches. No,
47:10
well, I mean he did a he did like a parking lot brawl with
47:15
who would become fit Fendly? Oh was that in WCW Yes, Oh okay,
47:21
I didn't know that. I mean yeah, like they gave each other
47:23
color the hard way. Oh yeah? Oh man, all right, because
47:28
I mean you get an English guy and an Irish guy. Yeah, they
47:30
they are not fans of each other. Yeah, they are not fans of
47:32
each other. All right. We're going to end it there, Ladies and
47:37
gentlemen, when we come back, we will have one this day in wrestling
47:40
history in the main event. Stay tuned once again. Here's Hollywood zef Peg.
47:55
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to the grill. Ounce. I am
47:59
your host Toleywood Jeff Betty and I am joined by Josh Cole Bye bye yeah.
48:07
And then our current reigning and defending We're a lot Predictions champion and the
48:15
crowd goes mild for the reflection of perfection. Jason Likens yep, just throws
48:22
that in there all right on this day and wrestling history Day. June second,
48:39
nineteen eighty three. At New Japan Pro Wrestling's IWGP League, HAULK Cogan
48:45
won the first ever International Wrestling at Grand Prix Tournament, defeating Antonio Noki by
48:50
knockout in the final, becoming the first holder of the original version of the
48:54
Iwgpweight Championship. I'll work for my brother, not much less. Hh do
49:01
you know something? And Noki is not going to work for me, brother
49:06
Noki Aka to Crimson Gin Yeah. June second, two thousand and four,
49:10
It's an NWATNA weekly pay per view taping in Nashville, Tennessee. Jeff Jared
49:15
defeated Ron Killings. There's that name, Rass, Harris aj Styles and Raven
49:20
and a King of the Mountain match to win the NBA World's Heavyweight Championship for
49:24
a third time. King of the Mountain was was was a good concept.
49:29
For TNA. It gives TNA its own identity. But did TNA become the
49:34
TNA, Like did Jeff Jarrett become the TNA hul Cogan? Pretty nice?
49:37
Yeah? Yeah yeah, and then they brought in the real hul Cogan.
49:43
Everything went well for TNL, almost like it. How about that? Maybe
49:51
that was why his theme song was like that, Jeff Jared's because he was
49:53
just warning everybody about what was to come in in the upcoming years. But
49:58
I mean, speaking of imclusion, Jeff, what happened on back in twenty
50:02
fourteen June second, twenty fourteen, The Shield implodes on ww rawl. One
50:10
night after the Shield Dean Amber, seth Rawlins and Roman Raines defeated Evolution,
50:15
Triple H, Randy Orton, and Batista and in an elimination rules match.
50:19
At payback, Batista quit the group and Triple H promised there would be a
50:23
Plan B. The plan was revealed at the end of the June second episode
50:28
of Raw when seth Rawlins shockingly blindsided his Shield co Hurts with vicious steel chair
50:34
shots as Triple H and Randy Orton watched one from ringside, Big moment in
50:40
history or that one? Yeah, I mean really all three. Maybe not
50:45
so much to say one with DNA no, but I mean I would think
50:49
maybe the IWGP Heavyweight Champion it might be important. Yeah, that one was
50:53
kind of in. That one's got some importance to it. And then of
50:57
course you know the shield imploding one June second, twenty fourteen. Moving on
51:02
the main event, Boy do we have a lot on that one. As
51:07
far as real quick, As far as as national wrestling goes, it's pretty
51:10
much it's going going. It basically is your normal, regularly scheduled programming.
51:17
And because there is so much going on, I'm going to pass it off
51:21
to my co host and have them go for it. So Josh start with
51:25
Thursday June sixth. So with Thursday, June six, Appalachian Championship Wrestling kicks
51:30
off its Buffalo Wild Wing season with schools out Charleston. This is a free
51:35
show that we held in the parking lot of the south Ridge Buffalo we Wings
51:37
in South Charleston, West Virginia. There's a meet and greet at six thirty
51:42
and the bill times at seven pm. Seating is limited, so bring your
51:45
own chair. Micro Wrestling Federation will be at the Tiny Pony Tavern in Bellington,
51:50
West Virginia. This is an all ages show with the belltime of seven
51:52
pm and tickets start at twenty three to ninety nine. And finally, for
51:57
Thursday, June sixth, Premier Wrestling League midte will be at the Coal Chevy
52:00
Mountain Festival in Bluefield, West Virginia. Bell time is at six pm and
52:05
entry to the festival is free. Well, now let's move over to Friday,
52:08
June seventh, Mega Pro Wrestling presents Van Detta at the Marmatt Recreation Center
52:15
in Marmott, West Virginia. Belltime is seven thirty pm. Front row is
52:19
twenty dollars, General admission is fifteen and kids five and under get in free.
52:24
So also on Friday, June seventh, Micro Wrestling Federation has another event
52:30
which will be in Bridgeport, West Virginia at the Social Tap, But unlike
52:36
Thursday, this show is ages twenty one and up with belltime of eight thirty
52:40
pm. Ticket start at twenty four ninety nine. Lastly, for Friday,
52:45
June seventh, Retro Reset Wrastlin will be at the Midland Trail Community Center in
52:51
Anstead, West Virginia for Hail the Trail. Belltime is at six pm.
52:57
First two rows are fifteen dollars. General admission is ten dollars and five dollars
53:01
for kids twelve and under and the cap off all of this we will go
53:06
to. Saturday, June eighth, Battleground Wrestling returns to action for Underground Assault,
53:12
located at the Fear on the Farm Haunted House in Winfield, West Virginia.
53:15
Belltime is at seven pm. Tickets are twenty dollars, but seating is
53:19
very limited with only one hundred tickets being sold, so make sure you get
53:22
those big time wrestling. Lords of the Ring presents Unchain the Madness at the
53:29
Good Samaritan Church Center in Huntington, West Virginia. Belltime is at eight pm
53:34
and tickets are ten dollars. Premiere Wrestling League mid Atlantic has another free show,
53:38
this time in ray Now, West Virginia at Park Center Sporting Goods with
53:43
a bell time of two pm. This event will feature Victor Andrews, who
53:47
has been seen in All Elite Wrestling and Ring of Honor. Real Shoot Wrestling
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will be at Skidder Mode's Drinking Check in Morgantown, West Virginia for Mayhem on
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the Mountain three return to Nightmare Mountain. This is a free show with a
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bell time of five pm. Take a breath, Jeff, Take a breath.
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Starting Blue Top Notch Wrestling Alliance presents Power Surge at the New Haven Community
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Center in new Haven, West Virginia. Belltime is at seven pm. Admission
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is ten dollars for ages thirteen and up, seven dollars for kids six to
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twelve, and free for kids five and under. And lastly, for Saturday,
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June eighth, the Waynesboro, Pennsylvania based Voltage Wrestling will be in Martinsburg,
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West Virginia at the Bad Habits Bar in Grill for a live TV taping
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of their programming Lightning, which hold on Lightning, which airs locally in Washington
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County, Pennsylvania. This will be Voltage Wrestling's first TV taping held in West
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Virginia. Belltime is at eight pm. Front row is twenty dollars, general
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mission is fifteen dollars in free for kids seven and under. All right in
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competition. Yeah, there's a lot going on. That's twelve local wrestling shows
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for you ladies Thursday to Saturday. YEP, listen, it is warming up
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out there. We have been talking on the show for the past few months
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that there was that there's going to be a lot more wrestling shows coming up,
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and I know that in the coming weeks we do have more coming coming.
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So listen. If you have never been to a local wrestling show and
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you are hesitant because you don't want to pay a ticket, go to one
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of the free shows. Yeah, check it out. Yeah, go up
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to Buffalo Wild Wings, check it out. See what you think you know,
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or go to another show pay for it. Yeah, I mean support
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local wrestling. I know you hear a lot of bills that support local business,
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but it's the same thing with professional wrestling. Go support local wrestling.
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You can go there. Here's the thing you've been to. If you've been
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to the WWW show, you've been to an aw show, you've been to
55:53
a TNA Ring of Honor, whatever, you don't get that much access to
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the wrestlers. Correct, Yes, at a local show, well unless you
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you know, sneak in the back and then you're getting kicked out a VIP
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package. Yeah yeah, one of those, one of those ones, more
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legal, yeah, exactly. Yeah. But a lot of these local wrestling
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shows will have meet and greets, like just yesterday for Bashing Beckley for they
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had a three hour meet and greet with so many different wrestlers there. And
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it's not just legends and national wrestlers, it's also local wrestlers. I've gotten
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a chance to actually sit there and speak to local wrestlers such as Rocky Rage
56:34
and huff Manly. Long before we started doing this show, I would,
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you know, my brothers and I would go there and we would we would
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get a chance to sit there and talk to the wrestlers. It is a
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great way to get introduced to professional wrestling. If you have a friend who
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is a big professional wrestling fan, try to talk to them into going,
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Hey, go with me, help me with this. I want to get
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into this, but I don't know how to go about it. Even some
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of these festivals have free shows like this one coming up on blue Field,
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Putt in mc County, Ferris and wrestling on it coming up yeah, the
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other ones, Yeah exactly. Like there's just you know, there is a
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lot of wrestling out there. Just go support local wrestling. That's that is,
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that is how, that is what all this boils down to. If
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you want to talk to us, you can email us The Grill Out ninety
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five at gmail dot com. You can also like the Facebook page and message
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us on the Facebook page. And if you have not had a chance to
57:24
check out our Grill Out special, our latest special episode, the King of
57:29
the Ring Tournament Runner Up Tournament, where we go ahead and we fantasy book
57:32
an entire King of the Ring Tournament using only the runner ups from previous King
57:37
of the Rings minus the latest one and Kurt Angle and Macho Man because they
57:43
were winners of the King of the Ring tournament. So just make sure you
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go check that out, go like the Facebook page, and do y'all have
57:49
anything else to add to this? Be kind, just love each other and
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until next yeah, do better, And until next time, wrestling, and
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until next time, fellow wrestling fans, have a good one. Mm hmm.
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Good bye and good night's friend,