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The Bolt Report | 20 November · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Je is the gold perform it to.
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  Speaker 2: The most disgraceful thing I've seeing the ABC do for
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  Speaker 2: many years. Blaming Jews for being bashed in Amsterdam two
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  Speaker 2: weeks ago for provoking it. I've exposed the trickery. Plus
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Road speaks. He says he's now prepared to deal
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  Speaker 2: with Donald Trump, which is big of him, but it's
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  Speaker 2: not really the question is it? Also Tonight, one of
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  Speaker 2: Australia's greenest authors faces a dilemma. Here's just one day
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  Speaker 2: ninety seven thousand dollars pros from a company that's intermining
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  Speaker 2: fossil fuels. How can he keep his hands on the cash?
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  Speaker 2: And the New South Wales trains strike three days of
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  Speaker 2: no trains as unions demand at pay rise of one
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  Speaker 2: third of their wages from their labor makes in government.
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  Speaker 2: Is in this a reason to sell the railways through
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  Speaker 2: a private business. But first I knew it. I knew
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  Speaker 2: we could not trust Energy Minister Chris Bone to fly
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  Speaker 2: to this latest UN global warming conference in Azerbaijan with
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  Speaker 2: his pockets full of our money, and sure enough it's
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  Speaker 2: just wounded the crowd there by saying he'll give another
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  Speaker 2: fifty million dollars of our money to other countries to
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  Speaker 2: do something about global warming.
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  Speaker 3: We believe that primate action makes economic sense at every level,
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  Speaker 3: from the household budget to the nation's economy.
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  Speaker 2: It makes sense when we pay and pay and pay
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  Speaker 2: and make no difference to the climate anyway. But good news,
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  Speaker 2: good news, there are now two energy ministers called Chris.
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  Speaker 2: The bad news, of course, is that Australia's got the
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  Speaker 2: wrong one. Australia has Chris Bowen has just doubled down
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  Speaker 2: in this Climate conference on his GHRD against our reliable
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  Speaker 2: coal fired electricity and refuse to help other countries get
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  Speaker 2: more nuclear power. But now meet the other Chris. Chris right,
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  Speaker 2: who found a Liberty Energy, a giant in fracking for gas,
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  Speaker 2: A man is now being picked by incoming US President
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump to be America's next energy minister, or as
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  Speaker 2: they say, energy secretary. And this Chris sounds nothing like
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  Speaker 2: Al Chris because he uses reason, not emotion. I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you what it's going to be, not mere for l
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  Speaker 2: Chris Bowen, making him seem like a factory idiot in comparison,
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  Speaker 2: because let me show you Al Chris claims that climate
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  Speaker 2: change is an existential threat Americas Chris says, that's rubbish.
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  Speaker 2: There is no climate crisis.
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  Speaker 4: Since the end of World War two, global human life expectancy, wealth, health,
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  Speaker 4: and opportunity have surged like never before. Hence any negative
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  Speaker 4: impacts from climate change were clearly overwhelmed by the benefits
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  Speaker 4: of increasing energy consumption.
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  Speaker 2: Our Chris then goes the scare we'll die from global warming.
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  Speaker 5: Every year more of us are sweltering through increasingly deadly
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  Speaker 5: heat waves.
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  Speaker 2: But Americas, Chris says, calm down.
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  Speaker 6: Globally, five times more people die every year from the
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  Speaker 6: cold than die from the heat. And as the world
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  Speaker 6: keeps getting wealthier and society keeps progressing, we're making energy
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  Speaker 6: more expensive and we're growing these tragedies.
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  Speaker 4: Not addressing these tragedies now.
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  Speaker 2: Our Chris will then smear a guy like that is
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  Speaker 2: a climate denial But Emericus Chris says, well, no, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: It's just practically it's as true. The world is warmed
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  Speaker 2: slightly since eating fifty but the good from using the
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  Speaker 2: fossil fuels that have made us richer and safer outweighs
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  Speaker 2: the bad. But our Chris claims we can and must
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  Speaker 2: now replace that colon gas with renewables go net zero emissions,
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  Speaker 2: he said. But Americas, Chris, is that transition is not happening,
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  Speaker 2: and it won't. In fact, for all the billions we
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  Speaker 2: spend on green energy, we're using more fossil fuels than ever.
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  Speaker 4: We took a careful look at where energy growth is
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  Speaker 4: coming from. In twenty ten, the world consumed about five
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  Speaker 4: hundred exit duals of energy. Now the world consumes about
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  Speaker 4: six hundred exit duels of energy. Forty percent of the
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  Speaker 4: additional energy in the planet came from natural gas, second
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  Speaker 4: fastest growing energy source on the planet over the last
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  Speaker 4: twelve years oil. Twenty four percent of the additional energy
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  Speaker 4: came from oil, and third fastest growing source.
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  Speaker 2: Of energy on the planet is coal. And now Chris,
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  Speaker 2: of course won't listen to stuff like this. It kinds
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  Speaker 2: we simply need to invest and means spend more and
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  Speaker 2: the sola and he says that renewable energy is the
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  Speaker 2: cheapest form of energy. Well as Americas, Chris, that's wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Can build a lot of wind and solar and then
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  Speaker 4: at night the sun's not shining, and then sometimes the
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  Speaker 4: wind doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Blow and you have no energy.
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  Speaker 4: So to keep society running, you have to have a
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  Speaker 4: whole second entergy separate energy system of dispatchable, reliable which
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  Speaker 4: is very expensive to main two gris.
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  Speaker 2: And of course our Energy Minister Chris is an anti
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  Speaker 2: nuclear luddite.
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  Speaker 7: There's a ban on nuclear power. Nuclear power is risky.
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  Speaker 2: But America's Energy Minister Chris is ill for it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a huge fan of nuclear and have been since
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  Speaker 4: I was a kid. Like we should be doubling down
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  Speaker 4: ahead of your time, we should be tripling down a
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  Speaker 4: nuclear Ultimately we will because it's an alternative that works.
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  Speaker 4: It has the high energy density, it works when it's dark,
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  Speaker 4: it works when the wind's not blowing. It's reliable power.
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  Speaker 4: A nuclear power has an incredible safety record, the best
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  Speaker 4: safety record of every energy alternative we have out there,
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  Speaker 4: including my industry.
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  Speaker 2: But there is one other contrast, and it's something that
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  Speaker 2: our Energy Minister, Chris Chris Bone does not discuss, but
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  Speaker 2: America's Energy Minister Chris Chris Right does. It's something that
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  Speaker 2: makes all this talk about getting rid of coal, oil
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  Speaker 2: and gas fast because it goes far beyond electricity.
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  Speaker 4: There's an impression that soon will be done with oil
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  Speaker 4: and gas. People honestly believe that in ten twenty or
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  Speaker 4: thirty years at most, we won't use hydrocarbons. Nearly zero
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  Speaker 4: chance of that happening. We don't have replacements for so
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  Speaker 4: many of the things we use hydrocarbons for. I said
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  Speaker 4: nitrogen fertilizer, like, we have no other way to make
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  Speaker 4: nitrogen fertilizer but natural gas and a catalyst in a
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  Speaker 4: high energy process. Steel, cement, plastics, and fertilizer. Those four
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  Speaker 4: pillars of the modern world. We use almost as much
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  Speaker 4: energy to produce those as the entire global electricity system.
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  Speaker 2: Now you may wonder why I trust Americas Chris over
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  Speaker 2: our own. Well, I think you probably can tell from
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  Speaker 2: those clips which Chris seems the best understand energy in
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  Speaker 2: the challenges ahead, and it's more likely to tell you straight,
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  Speaker 2: no politics, no spin. If you don't believe me, check
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  Speaker 2: the science for yourself, but also check their records. Our
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  Speaker 2: Chris Chris Bowen has a record of failure. He was
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  Speaker 2: a failure as our immigration misster living in twenty four
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  Speaker 2: thousand both people, and as a failure now as Energy
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  Speaker 2: and Climate Change minister, has just presided over more disasters.
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  Speaker 2: Investitors have walked away from his green hydrogen plans, has
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  Speaker 2: built out of wind farms is behind an over budget,
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  Speaker 2: and he's promised to cut your electricity bills by two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five dollars. Of course, turned out to
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  Speaker 2: be a sick joke Americus. Chris, though, has meanwhile made
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  Speaker 2: himself and his shareholders a lot of money by fracking
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  Speaker 2: for gas, helping to turn the United States last year
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  Speaker 2: into the world's top exporter. So compare the Chriss which
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  Speaker 2: Chris would you traft to keep on the lights? Join him?
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  Speaker 2: Is the political panel Cameron Milner formhachieve for staff to
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  Speaker 2: Labor leader Bill Shorten and now director of g XO Strategies.
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  Speaker 2: And Michael Costs the former New South Wales labor Treasurer. Cameron.
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  Speaker 2: How can this country has it? Is its energy minister
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  Speaker 2: a guy like Chris bone.
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  Speaker 7: Well.
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  Speaker 3: I think I've got a lot of time for Chris.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's got a lot of vision, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of passion, and I think he's actually put his heart
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  Speaker 3: into politics in terms of this country.
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  Speaker 2: But on non nuclear he's wrong. He's wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I mean the Labor Party has an ideological blindness to
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  Speaker 3: a simple zero solution, which is nuclear power. So Andrew,
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  Speaker 3: I agree that weich have nuclear power. I agree gases
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  Speaker 3: a transition of fuel, but I think we should also
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  Speaker 3: have wind and solar if the nation allows us to
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  Speaker 3: have those resources as well.
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  Speaker 5: Michael Cossa, Well, Andrew, you know my view of Chris Bowen.
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  Speaker 5: Everything he touched turns to and I won't use the word. Look,
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  Speaker 5: you're currently an energy policy in this country. Got a
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  Speaker 5: ship of fools, and the captain's Anthony Albanese and the
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  Speaker 5: first mate, of course, is Chris Bowen. I mean, his
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  Speaker 5: position on nuclear is so extreme that it's laughable. I'm
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  Speaker 5: surprised that people don't shun him at these conferences because
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  Speaker 5: a significant number of the delegates to these silly conferences
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  Speaker 5: actually support nuclear power. We know there's over four hundred
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  Speaker 5: nuclear reactors in the world, there's sixty currently being planned,
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  Speaker 5: nine percent of the world's energies coming from nuclear, and
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  Speaker 5: yet you have Chris Bowen out there arguing against all
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  Speaker 5: the scientists in these countries, all the engineers, all the politicians,
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  Speaker 5: all the policy makers, that they're all wrong, and he's right. Look,
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  Speaker 5: the bottom line here is if you don't support nuclear energy,
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  Speaker 5: you are a climate crisis denier. And that's what Chris
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  Speaker 5: Bowen is let's call in for what he is. He's
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  Speaker 5: a climate crisis nia and he's on the wrong side
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  Speaker 5: of this argument.
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  Speaker 2: And not only that, he's.
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  Speaker 5: Going to lose young people because more and more young people,
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  Speaker 5: even ones that supports silly woke positions, are supporting nuclear energy.
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  Speaker 5: They're on a loser on this policy.
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  Speaker 2: I have to say that extremism. I think Cameron came
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  Speaker 2: out this week, of course, when he even rejected the
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  Speaker 2: invitation from the US and Britain to join an international
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  Speaker 2: effort to work out better ways to get nuclear power
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  Speaker 2: and what's the problem here? But even worse was the
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  Speaker 2: excuse he gay that we don't need nuclear like other
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  Speaker 2: countries do. But simply he said, London has only one
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  Speaker 2: six hundred and thirty three hours of sunshine and average year.
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  Speaker 2: But comparison Australia, at least sunny capital city is Melbourne
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  Speaker 2: with twy and three hundred and sixty two. Well, our
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  Speaker 2: sunniest is Perth three two hundred and twenty nine. But
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  Speaker 2: honestly you can equally say that we have another advantage
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  Speaker 2: over Britain. Twenty four percent of the world's uranium is here.
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  Speaker 2: Britain's got close to zero, So why not use that
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  Speaker 2: natural advantage.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think we should, Andrew, and I think the
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  Speaker 3: fact that we could actually securely produce uranium here in
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  Speaker 3: Richard and give it a full life cycle.
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  Speaker 2: I know Bob Hawk was how.
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  Speaker 3: Down for this, but I think it was a great solution.
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  Speaker 3: Bob Hawk's visionary about this and Australia. The Labour Party
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  Speaker 3: needs to move out of the nuclear disarmament party, the
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  Speaker 3: Peter Garrett phase of the eighties. Get with the program,
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  Speaker 3: get with the other twenty g twenty nations who've all
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  Speaker 3: got nuclear power, and use it to drive down carbon emissions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's not overlook You're totally right. The sheer
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  Speaker 2: childishness of his argument. It's just ridiculous. By the way.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Kevin run another favorite of yours. He's broken his silence.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we've had all this controversy over whether he
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  Speaker 2: should stay as ambassador would still be effective. One of
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's advisors even suggested his tone was up the
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  Speaker 2: other day as ambassador to Washington after he abused Trump
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  Speaker 2: as a village idiot, nuts and the most destructive president history,
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  Speaker 2: as well as a traitor to the West. Dud has
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  Speaker 2: not quite addressed that, but he has told the world
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  Speaker 2: I am ready to work with Donald Trump. Here is
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  Speaker 2: here at the Embassy.
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  Speaker 8: We've been working hard through the course of the last
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  Speaker 8: year to ensure that we were well prepared for this moment.
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  Speaker 8: And the bottom line is we're ready. The team here
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  Speaker 8: at the Embassy and the Government of Australia are ready
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  Speaker 8: to work closely with the new Trump administration to continue
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  Speaker 8: to realize the benefits of what is a very strong
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  Speaker 8: economic and security partnership.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't this miss the point of little Michael Rudd might
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  Speaker 2: be ready to work with Trump, but is Trump ready
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  Speaker 2: to work with him?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: What a relief for Donald Trump that Kevin Rudd's decided
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  Speaker 5: that he's going to work with him. What a relief
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  Speaker 5: He must have been sleeping very soundly down in mary
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  Speaker 5: Lago tonight. You know what a clown that bloke is.
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  Speaker 5: That's all I can say. He's as bad as those
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  Speaker 5: two clowns on you know what's his name, Morning Joe
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  Speaker 5: and his missus that went down to cruel to Kevin Rudd,
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  Speaker 5: not to Donald Trump after their disastrous performance. Look, you know,
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  Speaker 5: Kevin should do the right thing and that is resigned
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  Speaker 5: and let Australia have a clean relationship with the incoming president.
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  Speaker 2: What did you make of that? A little? You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready to work with the President Cameron.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's hope he was ready, because he is the
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  Speaker 3: ambassador for Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the big mistake.
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  Speaker 3: Here is that Anthony Albanize has missed a week of parliament.
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  Speaker 2: He's been in Rio, been in Peru.
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  Speaker 3: He could fly up to Florida tonight, I actually go
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  Speaker 3: and see President Trump. That would actually be something Australia
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  Speaker 3: could really do. But Albo's going to come back and
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  Speaker 3: do what. Who knows. He certainly hasn't been at work
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  Speaker 3: this week, and he should have gone to mar Lago
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  Speaker 3: and actually met the incoming president.
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  Speaker 2: President Trump. Yeah, I checked the flights from Peru to
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  Speaker 2: Miami with six and a half hours and his jet.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you could make it even shorter. There was a
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  Speaker 2: weird thing in parliament too. Does quickly you can is?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, well, it is burdened by all that Caviat
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  Speaker 2: and Champagne, But never mind that, Michael, maybe you could
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  Speaker 2: sort this out. There's a weird thing in parliament today
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  Speaker 2: which I took to be the Treasurer's attempt before the
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  Speaker 2: Christmas break and the election to prove that he's the
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  Speaker 2: man and he's on top of the economy.
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  Speaker 10: Here it is, this is the soft landing that we
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  Speaker 10: have been planning for and preparing for. Inflation coming back
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  Speaker 10: to band and economy is still growing and unemployment with
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  Speaker 10: a fore in front of it. The unemployment rate is
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  Speaker 10: on track to average below four percent for this parliamentary
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  Speaker 10: term for the first time since monthly records began.
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  Speaker 11: And while the Treasurer says that this is the landing
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  Speaker 11: that we have been planning for and preparing for, there
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  Speaker 11: is nothing soft about this landing, nothing at all.
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  Speaker 2: Depity Speaker.
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  Speaker 11: What we have seen from this government is a crash landing,
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  Speaker 11: not a soft landing. We see that by virtue of
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  Speaker 11: the fact that Australian's standard of living has collapsed.
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  Speaker 2: Michael, I'm not sure that this State of the Economy address,
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  Speaker 2: look how good it's all going it work for the government.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously didn't that ship of fils might have a new
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  Speaker 5: first mate and be the Treasurer. Look, let's remember back
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  Speaker 5: a month ago when he was attacking the Reserve Bank,
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  Speaker 5: you know in a not too subtle way that they
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  Speaker 5: were going to crash the economy. Now all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 5: the strategy is working. Well, it's not his strategy in
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  Speaker 5: that sets, it's the Reserve Bank's strategy. He certainly agreed
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  Speaker 5: to the original targets, but he was criticizing them. You know,
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  Speaker 5: you haven't forgotten that the public hasn't forgotten that, and
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  Speaker 5: all they see is inflation still going up, governments spending
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  Speaker 5: out of control, our commodities now because the China's problems
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  Speaker 5: are in decline in terms of their prices and they
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  Speaker 5: face massive budget deficits. I think he's spritly seeing his
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  Speaker 5: future as Prime Minister slipping away.
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  Speaker 2: I think that might be the case. Cameron Miller, Michael Costa,
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  Speaker 2: thank you both for your time after the break. This
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  Speaker 2: is too much. The ABC has got no shame now.
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  Speaker 2: It even blames Jews for getting hunted in Amsterdam. Someone
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  Speaker 2: should lose their job over what I'm going to show you. Well,
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  Speaker 2: have I got an update for you? Absolutely impeccable source
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  Speaker 2: from inside Donald Trump's mar A Lago hon Was tells
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  Speaker 2: me that Kevin Rudd has been ringing the senior team
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  Speaker 2: around Donald Trump, trying to contact the President. They don't
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  Speaker 2: want to bar of him, don't want to bar of him.
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  Speaker 2: Calls are not being returned. This was said to my
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  Speaker 2: impact source by someone very high up in the Trump team,
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  Speaker 2: the transition team. Make of that what you will, Kevin.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think the issue is whether you want to
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  Speaker 2: work with Donald Trump, and I do think the government
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  Speaker 2: is facing a real problem with him in the job.
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  Speaker 2: I've warned about this as far back as January that
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  Speaker 2: it was not sustainable and now it's not. Meanwhile, the
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  Speaker 2: ABC it should die of shame after its Media Watch
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  Speaker 2: on Monday, blamed Jewish soccer fans for being hunted in
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  Speaker 2: Amsterdam two weeks ago. A bashed ut a disgrace. Media
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  Speaker 2: Watch host Paul Barry cannot be allowed to get away
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  Speaker 2: with this. Now I featured on this show, of course,
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  Speaker 2: being a Media Watch hate figure or most of all
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  Speaker 2: Sky presenters are.
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  Speaker 4: The streets of Amsterdam vision reportedly showing Jewish soccer fans
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  Speaker 4: like animals.
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  Speaker 2: The Dutch had been shamed and shock bowed. Jew hunt
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  Speaker 2: fung Muslims in the streets of Amsterdam. Also full coverage
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  Speaker 2: tonight of the Amsterdam pogrom.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, I'm Paul Verry, Welcome to me to watch and
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  Speaker 1: there were pogroms and jew hunts making headlines on Sky
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  Speaker 1: News last week after clashes between pro Palestine and protesters
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  Speaker 1: and Israeli soccer fans in Amsterdam.
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  Speaker 2: But Barry, like many in the media left around the world,
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  Speaker 2: busily rewriting this history. People helped me, people dies just
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  Speaker 2: to see we apparently got that story wrong.
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  Speaker 1: They ignored or glossed over half the story.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, apparently the Jews are to blame the least in
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  Speaker 2: part for being hunted and bashed.
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  Speaker 1: Two angry mobs were involved with violence on both sides.
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  Speaker 2: So what was the other side of the story. According
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  Speaker 2: to Paul Barry, it was this.
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  Speaker 1: The day before the match against local team i AX
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  Speaker 1: mccar fans ripped down and burnt a Palestinian flag, while
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  Speaker 1: groups of supporters also beat up a taxi driver and
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  Speaker 1: vandalized several taxes. And on match day around one thousand
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  Speaker 1: fans massed in the city center and let off flares,
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  Speaker 1: then march to the stadium chanting racist anti Arab chance.
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  Speaker 2: Now, in fact, if you've seen my show last week,
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  Speaker 2: you'll know reported most of that. But what is Barry
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  Speaker 2: suggesting that tearing down a flag and lighting flares or
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  Speaker 2: chanting rude insults justifies and explains a mob that then
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  Speaker 2: bashes Jews. Even if it's true, it's interesting, interesting theory.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: What's more, we don't know why or the circumstances surround
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: him why a taxi driver was allegedly beaten. I should add, though,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: that I have seen and shown you video of one driver,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: one of many Muslim drives in Amsterdam, saying he was
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: on a jew hunt. That's his own words, jod yacht
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: jew hunt. We need to know more about what actually
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: happened with that incident. We don't know, and sure Barry
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: doesn't know for sure. Now note how Barry refers to
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: those flares and the insults and the tearing down of
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: a flag.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Media reports did mention these provocations.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Provocations, bad Jews provoking. What then happened to them? Now
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: it gets worse, in fact, soon very much worse. And
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: by the way of cause, I'm showing some video of violence.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Then came Paul Barry's gotcha. Many TV outlets had used footage,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: much of it filmed by a guy called Bender, sixteen
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: year old Dutch v loggi did a good job of
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Israelis with sticks chasing someone, and they falsely claimed this
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: showed Muslims chasing a Jew, which was wrong.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: That dressing footage actually showed Israeli fans doing the hunting.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: The same rampaging mccarby fans were also captured by fourteen
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: year old Dutch vlogger on a Bender. Bender's seventeen minute
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: video showed mccarby fans stealing steel pipes, putting on masks,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and chasing someone. A metal pipe appears to be thrown
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: at a police vehicle.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: There is both right and desperately misleading in describing these
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: rampaging Jews. What he does not show is what this
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: bender showed beforehand, before that happened, and he described it
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: as he filmed it.
• 21:37
  Speaker 12: There were a few stoker, Oh, she's shining a bala
• 21:41
  Speaker 12: at hunt Ariov. It then comes herself to vi the
• 21:47
  Speaker 12: from mansity lost follow the shame policy. Ignaty proceeds this
• 21:52
  Speaker 12: hole the Komasi like the ectopus of the policy. Attic
• 21:58
  Speaker 12: nixt dute my oh duck yash is I need to blame.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: It to action.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: And it was only then that the Israelis besieged and
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: unprotected by police, unable to even to take a taxi
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: to safety. A lot of Muslim taxi drivers whatever they
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: were told not to. It was only then that these
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Jews lashed out at one person. And even then it's
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: after some confrontation. Bender couldn't see your film. You don't
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: know what started that now. Amazingly, Barry even claimed that
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: many outlets had used this wrong footage of mccarby fans
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: actually chasing someone, not the other way around, because he
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: said there was really nothing else, really nothing else to show.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: How false was that there was plenty of other vision,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: but of Jews being beaten, some kicked senseless by the
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: apparently Muslim attackers. Give you my money. The footage shows
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: a terrified Jew who escaped the people chasing him by
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: jumping into a canal, while Muslims looking for more Israelis
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: demanded people show passports. In the end, five Jews were
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: put in hospital, but not one Muslim yet the ABC
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: this Paul Barry claims Jews were guilty of provocations, mocks
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: the idea of a Jew hunt that says they were
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: rampaging through Amsterdam. How very sick. Joining me is Rondine
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: tour In, chief of the Spectator, Australian host of Outsiders
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: on Sky News every Sunday at nine a m. Rowan,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: what is going on here?
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: Well, Andrew, it's terrific, and thank you for it taking
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: us through all that detail.
• 24:02
  Speaker 13: The bottom line here as yet again the ABC Paul
• 24:05
  Speaker 13: Barry hang their heads in shame. What we see always
• 24:10
  Speaker 13: as two things, and this Paul Barry Media Watch segment
• 24:14
  Speaker 13: showed them beautifully. The two things that always the left
• 24:17
  Speaker 13: default to. One is this kind of moral equivalence where
• 24:21
  Speaker 13: they can only ever talk about Jews being persecuted, or
• 24:25
  Speaker 13: anti Semitism or attacks on jewsu or anything with this
• 24:28
  Speaker 13: kind of weird moral equivalence. You've got a team and
• 24:31
  Speaker 13: B team or the blue team, and you know whatever team,
• 24:33
  Speaker 13: and they're both kind of the same. They're doing it
• 24:36
  Speaker 13: to each other, so that kind of excuses anti Semitic hatred,
• 24:39
  Speaker 13: violence and so on. And the other game which the
• 24:42
  Speaker 13: Left play all the time and anti Semites play all
• 24:45
  Speaker 13: the time. And Barry played this card as well was
• 24:48
  Speaker 13: to say, well, not enough Jews died.
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: So nobody actually died, so what are we worried about?
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: How can you call it a program?
• 24:56
  Speaker 13: I'm paraphrasing him, I'm quoting from memory, but he said
• 24:59
  Speaker 13: something along the line and how could you call it
• 25:00
  Speaker 13: a pogram, which nobody died because the definition of the
• 25:03
  Speaker 13: pogram is a massacre.
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: Let's just get back to basics.
• 25:07
  Speaker 13: And as for that word provocation that is so sinister
• 25:10
  Speaker 13: by itself, let me remind you that we had on
• 25:14
  Speaker 13: October ninth in Sydney mobs going around the opera house
• 25:18
  Speaker 13: screaming out gas.
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: The jews and the explore.
• 25:22
  Speaker 13: That was the allegation, and the New South Wales police said,
• 25:26
  Speaker 13: oh no, no, they weren't saying gas the juice. They
• 25:28
  Speaker 13: were just saying where's the jews? So where's the jews
• 25:32
  Speaker 13: is a kind of harmless thing. But we've seen here
• 25:34
  Speaker 13: in Amsterdam, what where's the jews? Looks like it looks
• 25:38
  Speaker 13: like a guy being kicked on the ground, It looks
• 25:40
  Speaker 13: like some character ending up in the canal. It looks
• 25:42
  Speaker 13: like people running for their lives in fear or grabbing
• 25:46
  Speaker 13: pipes to defend themselves, which is what the bloggers said,
• 25:48
  Speaker 13: it was an act of self defense. So always, the
• 25:52
  Speaker 13: big story the Left wanted to deny and play down
• 25:57
  Speaker 13: is the real story here, Andrew, is that this is Amsterdam,
• 26:02
  Speaker 13: Amsterdam where a young teenage girl hid in fear for
• 26:07
  Speaker 13: her life during the Second World War, hid for months,
• 26:11
  Speaker 13: years on end in a cupboard, terrified out of her
• 26:15
  Speaker 13: wits because she was Jewish and she was being hunted
• 26:19
  Speaker 13: and she was being hunted down to be killed. And
• 26:22
  Speaker 13: she wrote a diary about the sheer terror and inhumanity
• 26:27
  Speaker 13: of that situation. And here we are, all these years
• 26:30
  Speaker 13: later in Amsterdam with people being hunted down because they
• 26:34
  Speaker 13: are Jewish and with a very serious intent to cause
• 26:38
  Speaker 13: harm to them.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: That's the real story. It is despicable.
• 26:42
  Speaker 13: The Prime Minister of Holland recognized this fact and spoke
• 26:47
  Speaker 13: about it accordingly, and the right thinking world recognized the
• 26:52
  Speaker 13: sheer horror that in Amsterdam where Anne Frank hid, yet again,
• 26:58
  Speaker 13: angry mobs are hunting and threatening to kill Jews. That's
• 27:02
  Speaker 13: the true story. That's the only story. And to try
• 27:06
  Speaker 13: and obfuscate and dissemble the story, and say, will this
• 27:09
  Speaker 13: person filmed that?
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: And over him was this? And Sky News blah blah
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: blah blah. And well done to.
• 27:15
  Speaker 13: Shari and yourself and eron for bringing that story so
• 27:19
  Speaker 13: forcefully to the forefront of you as minds, because it
• 27:23
  Speaker 13: was a horror.
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: Show and fortunately nobody died. But the vile suggestion that oh,
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: I can't be a program because nobody died. I mean
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: that is really sing yeah.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: But also the provocation, I mean, for example, pulling out
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: the sticks to protect themselves. It seems to me that
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the logic is that had had these Jews not fall
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: back and the number we're told might have been, you know,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: have served in the idea, if in the Israeli army,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: so they knew how to protect themselves. If they had
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: not protected themselves so they let themselves just be bashed,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: that would have been okay. That would have been okay.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: And I also notice in that entire report by Paul Barry,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: all the attention was on what the Jews did wrong.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: There was nothing from him, yes, about what their persecutors
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: had done wrong. I think that says a lot. And
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I want to know why it is who in the
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: ABC is going to call out Paul Barry when this
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: man was a point of the ABC's on screen media policeman. Well,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: who's going to call him out on air?
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: Exactly?
• 28:34
  Speaker 13: And if you want a provocation, Andrew, we're going to
• 28:36
  Speaker 13: play the provocations game. Let me just remind you, was
• 28:39
  Speaker 13: that the horrors of October seventh, that was provocation.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: That was genuine provocation. Tearing down a flag. I'm sorry,
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: doesn't count in my book.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Oh look what my mob of football hooligans hasn't done
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of what Paul Barry says is provocation, But
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: you don't see people getting hunted down the street. Rowan
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: the global warming craziness, right, it's now going to be
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: seriously tackled by Donald Trump and his team. Yeah, we've
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: just had energy mister Cris Boner, the You and Climate
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: conference in Abajohan. Just head over another fifty million dollars
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: for Pacific islands in particularly give you know, for supposed
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: climate action. You know, I don't think we've got the
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: right Chris as our energy minison when Trump has got
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: this Chris right, who's calling out this scare of.
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: Angering absolutely and everything.
• 29:33
  Speaker 13: Were you're doing, the Albanizi government is doing is deliberately
• 29:36
  Speaker 13: flying in the face of the Trump administration and the
• 29:39
  Speaker 13: amazing team that Trumps put together, which is going to
• 29:42
  Speaker 13: change our world.
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: It is, as I said the other day, it's a
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: renaiscence of the West.
• 29:47
  Speaker 13: The COP twenty nine is literally a gathering, a fringe
• 29:51
  Speaker 13: comedy festival. You have Chris bow and wandering around saying
• 29:55
  Speaker 13: that we're not going to go in nuclear because it's
• 29:58
  Speaker 13: sunny or in Melbourne London something actually I dispute, having
• 30:02
  Speaker 13: been in both cities.
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: But anyway, that's neither here nor there.
• 30:05
  Speaker 13: But the idea that we are threatening our alliance with
• 30:10
  Speaker 13: America and Britain a nuclear arrangement.
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: Obviously, UCUS is a nuclear agreement.
• 30:16
  Speaker 13: It's built around the nuclear subs and it's built around
• 30:19
  Speaker 13: the promise of us having nuclear submarines the ultimate deterrence
• 30:23
  Speaker 13: against China. And yet here we have Oh no, no,
• 30:25
  Speaker 13: we're not going to have nuclear says Chris Bowen because
• 30:28
  Speaker 13: it's sunnier in Melbourne.
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: Fantastic defense strategy. I'm not sure what Richard Miles is
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: making it all was.
• 30:33
  Speaker 13: But at the same time, when Chris Bowen, when you
• 30:36
  Speaker 13: even when people at COP twenty nine are shaking their
• 30:39
  Speaker 13: heads and raising an eyebrow to Chris Bowen, we know
• 30:42
  Speaker 13: we're really.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: In trouble, honestly, that you're just talking there Rohin. So
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: is argument against nuclear powers that we've actually got more
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: wind here in that case? Isn't the argument against nuclear
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: submarines that we should have a saning a submarine with
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: the sale on it instead? Maybe that was the go
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Why are we going nuclear with submarines at Rondin. It's
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: madness and I hope the strands are going to see
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: through that come the election time. Thank you so much
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: for your time. After the break, The Victorian government is
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: this week secretly negotiating compensation for people claiming to be
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Aboriginies for the terrible things that whites allegedly did. But
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to the author of three books
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: detailing what life was like for Aborigines before White's came.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: You might ask compensation for ending that. Now, I want
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: to keep the spotlight on something very divisive and racist
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: that the Victorian government is secretly negotiating this week. It's
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: a treaty being negotiated privately between the government and the
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: kind of Aboriginal parliament that it created, an advisory parliament,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: the first People's Assembly elected by just ten percent to
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: the Victorians claiming to be Aboriginal. This treaty discussion will
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: include things like how much more of our land should
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: be given to people for racial reasons because they have
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: some Aboriginal ancestry, and what compensation. But here's the thing
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: with compensation, I mean, leave aside the unfairness of one
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: group of strands being made to compensate another group of
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: strands for things they didn't do and that the other
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: people did not have done to them, since none of
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: them were alive at the time. The other thing is
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: this in principle, if you think Aborigines were living great
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: lives before whites came and ruined it, all, you pay
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: a lot more damaged, the more damages. But if you
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: think that actually Aborigines were living very harsh and violent
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: lives before whites came and eventually improved it, you may
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: not feel that paying anything at all. Joining me is
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: former Victorian Liberal minister Roger Pescott, who has written three
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: books about just the they called the Whole Truth, and
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: these books have been submitted as evidence to the Euroup
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Justice Commission, which is another race body the Victorian government
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: set up to look into just how terrible white settlement was.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: That's all that wants to hear, how terrible it was. Well.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Joining me is Roger Piscott. Roger, thank you so much
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: for your time. These books tell us about them? Why
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: did you write them? Well?
• 33:28
  Speaker 14: As you've said, the Warrook Commission is based on the
• 33:35
  Speaker 14: idea that there has and these are their words, an
• 33:38
  Speaker 14: unbroken line of injustice since colonization. And it was really
• 33:46
  Speaker 14: during the failed Voice referendum that I got second tired
• 33:54
  Speaker 14: of this whole game of describe that the Aborigines are
• 34:03
  Speaker 14: worthy of lots and lots and lots of support, which
• 34:06
  Speaker 14: they are to some extent, but never an explanation that
• 34:13
  Speaker 14: came from the Prime Minister. And so what we have
• 34:16
  Speaker 14: in Victoria at the moment is a whole lot of
• 34:20
  Speaker 14: change being proposed and actually being implemented. And that is
• 34:27
  Speaker 14: a worry to me because I think that there are
• 34:31
  Speaker 14: a lot of people if they understood how much is
• 34:34
  Speaker 14: being done in this field, then there will be a backlash.
• 34:40
  Speaker 14: The only thing that you can do if you are
• 34:44
  Speaker 14: on the wrong side of what's happening is be very,
• 34:48
  Speaker 14: very unhappy. And a lot of what's being done is
• 34:53
  Speaker 14: little more than the introduction of apartheid.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I totally agree with you. People don't like me.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: You're saying that. Probably don't like you now saying it.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: But I think this is actually the underlying theme of
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: what's being going on now, the whole truth. I've looked
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: through these books. You've gone back more than two hundred years.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Some of it more contemporary to get eyewitness accounts basically
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: of how Aberiges were in fact living before you know,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: colonization changed all that. Now. I haven't checked all your
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: sources yet, but the ones I have seem absolutely good
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: so far. Now. Volume one, for instance, it's about how
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Aboriginal women were treated. And I tell you the source
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: documents you've got from political figures or administrators at the time,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: it's horrific, it's absolutely horrific. Tell me what you found.
• 35:54
  Speaker 14: Well, first of all, I'll say that I'm not the
• 35:56
  Speaker 14: only person who has written these books. Been a few
• 36:01
  Speaker 14: of us who are, because it's such a big job
• 36:05
  Speaker 14: to go back through all these books.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: You have to read the books.
• 36:10
  Speaker 14: And you might only take a quote from let's say,
• 36:14
  Speaker 14: one page, and the book might be two or three
• 36:17
  Speaker 14: hundred pages long. So it's been a huge job. But
• 36:22
  Speaker 14: the idea was that when you're told by the government
• 36:28
  Speaker 14: that there has been this long line of injustice before colonization,
• 36:35
  Speaker 14: that didn't ring true. And I had studied Australian history
• 36:40
  Speaker 14: at university and it just was something that was irking
• 36:45
  Speaker 14: me quite a lot. And so that's why I got
• 36:50
  Speaker 14: together with people and decided to look back at these sources. Now,
• 36:57
  Speaker 14: the sources came from officials, they came from London, they
• 37:04
  Speaker 14: came from Sydney in terms of correspondence between London and Sydney. Also,
• 37:12
  Speaker 14: there were obviously farmers, there were people affected by the
• 37:19
  Speaker 14: interaction between indigenous people and non indigenous people and if
• 37:28
  Speaker 14: we found anything that was raised.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Looking at some of this, Roger, I'm looking at some
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: of this right, And you've actually got facsimiles of some
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: of those source documents you've got and these are yeah,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: they are written you know in the eighteen hundreds, a
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: lot of them. They're talking about women being treated as possessions,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: women being bashed mercilessly, women being ceremonially raped by a
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: tribe at the wedding night as part of a custom
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: of being speed if they were up aty. This might
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: not be the case all over Australia. That said, anthropological
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: records do suggest a defensive fracture in skeletal remains of
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: extremely high in some areas. That was Peter Sutton's work.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: This does not sound like a society that we should
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: be treating as a Golden Eden before white settlement came.
• 38:29
  Speaker 14: Well, that is the conclusion. The only conclusion you can
• 38:36
  Speaker 14: come to if you look at this evidence and the evidences.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: In some cases.
• 38:44
  Speaker 14: There are two three four pages full of references as
• 38:49
  Speaker 14: to where the people who wrote let's say one hundred
• 38:53
  Speaker 14: and fifty years ago, they were very, very thorough and
• 38:57
  Speaker 14: so what was gathered together in this document is straight fact. Now,
• 39:07
  Speaker 14: if we found, and quite often we found that there
• 39:12
  Speaker 14: were things that were repeated again and again and again,
• 39:17
  Speaker 14: and it was indeed a brutal society because all day long,
• 39:23
  Speaker 14: all day long, you never knew what might happen. Because sometimes,
• 39:30
  Speaker 14: for example, and this is not dealing with women, but
• 39:33
  Speaker 14: sometimes there was a custom through many tribes of take, well.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Let me just say, you've also driven cannibalism, et cetera,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: et cetera. The point is people might think, well, these
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: are just rare examples, but there is a pattern to
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: some of it, and maybe there were tribes wheen none
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: of this happened. But I have to say, if you
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: don't know these facts, if you try to suppress these facts,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: you're not in full full command of what really happened.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: You put your books to the europe Commission, Let us
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: hope they read them, let me be let me give
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: you a bet Roger, they will not. But you've tried
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: your damnedest and the whole truth people look it up
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: and buy it. Thank you so much for your time,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Roger Prescott. After the break, how does a fanatically green
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: writer except a ninety seven thousand dollars prize from a
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: company involved fossil fuels? Can you really accept it? What
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: a dilemma? Now, I should say that if you want
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: to buy the whole truth that we're discussed before the break,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: you can go to the Whole Truth one word, the
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Whole Truth, no points in it, the Whole Truth dot
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: com and order it there. Now. It is said that
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: politics is downstream of culture. Did I say the whole
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Truth dot au? I hope I said that. It said
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: that politics is downstream of culture. And I'll give you
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: an example, labor and peace. They're not all irrational hysterics.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: You know, many would know that this global warming alarms
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: is crazy, they'd be embarrassed by it, but their party
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: is trying to please the indoctrinated young and the cultural
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: tribe that worships the climate gods. The alp is just
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: you know, a boat in that climate in the current.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: They're that cultural current they're trying to please people like
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  Speaker 2: Richard Flanagan, the turgent Tasmanian, the eco author, beloved of
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: the in urban elite. It was just one Britain's Bailey
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  Speaker 2: Gifford Prize for nonfiction. And he realizes, though to his horror,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: that Bailey Gifford has investments in fossil fuels. But on
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: the other hand, that prize is worth ninety seven thousand dollars.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: That's the kind of wealth that fossil fuels produces. Of course,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: so what is a man to do? Reject all that
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  Speaker 2: dirty cash out of principle, We'll find a way to
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: still get your hands on it. Here he is with his.
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  Speaker 9: I would welcome an opportunity to speak with Bailey Gifford's board,
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: both to thank them for their generosity and also to
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: describe how fossil fuels are destroying my country. I would
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  Speaker 9: urge Bailey Gifford to act on its own publicly stated
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  Speaker 9: conviction that it sees no future in hydrocarbons by sharing
• 42:25
  Speaker 9: with the public a plan to reduce its already minimal
• 42:29
  Speaker 9: direct investment in fossil fuel extraction and increase its investments
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  Speaker 9: in renewables. I will delay take a receipt of the
• 42:38
  Speaker 9: money until the day that plan is announced.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, delay taking the dosh, What a noble sacrifice. Delay
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: joining me A Daniel wilder're been executive director of the
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Institute of Public Affairs and Gnneth Hamilton, a federal Liberal
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: MP in Queensland. Daniel, you'll be I think, I see
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  Speaker 2: are you standing there almost applauding Flannagan's brave stand.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, he's having a bobby each way. Andrew, I reckon
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  Speaker 15: if he's going to be fair income about this, he
• 43:12
  Speaker 15: should say thanks, but no thanks. And look, I don't
• 43:15
  Speaker 15: know whether this genius actually understands that pretty much every
• 43:18
  Speaker 15: single part of the end to end production of a
• 43:20
  Speaker 15: book involves electricity, and it evolves fuel. I mean, you know,
• 43:24
  Speaker 15: how do the words get out of his head and
• 43:26
  Speaker 15: onto a page? You need pieces of paper for that? Well,
• 43:30
  Speaker 15: that comes from trees, They go on trucks. You know,
• 43:33
  Speaker 15: trucks have fuel in them. I haven't seen too many
• 43:35
  Speaker 15: trucks driving around with solar panels or win turbines on them.
• 43:39
  Speaker 15: And then, of course, if you're going to distribute those
• 43:40
  Speaker 15: books around Australia around the world, well you need a
• 43:43
  Speaker 15: ship or you need a boat or you need a
• 43:45
  Speaker 15: truck again, you know. So if he's actually fair dcam
• 43:48
  Speaker 15: about this, maybe he's in the wrong game altogether, Andrews. So, look,
• 43:52
  Speaker 15: I don't think it's another example of how these woke
• 43:55
  Speaker 15: moralizers they want to change how we live, but they
• 43:58
  Speaker 15: also want to make or they're getting a nice, big
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  Speaker 15: fat paycheck at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew, Well, frankly Garth, I don't know how an environmentalist
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: can live with himself, you know, earning money from printing
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  Speaker 2: things on dead trees.
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  Speaker 16: Look, it's the great lefty dilemma, isn't it. You know,
• 44:17
  Speaker 16: do I virtue signal or do I take the money
• 44:20
  Speaker 16: from fossil fuels. There's a couple of other examples we've
• 44:22
  Speaker 16: had very recently. There was a teal independent MP came
• 44:27
  Speaker 16: here telling us all about climate change and what we
• 44:29
  Speaker 16: needed to do, but then got caught out having shares
• 44:32
  Speaker 16: in a fossil fuel company. She got caught in the
• 44:35
  Speaker 16: same dilemma. But it's not too far different. It's not
• 44:37
  Speaker 16: too far different. Also from this government that demonizes our
• 44:40
  Speaker 16: mining industry, absolutely does everything they can to block gold
• 44:44
  Speaker 16: mines in and arount Orange there talks it down, but
• 44:48
  Speaker 16: then pats herself on the back when the mining industry
• 44:50
  Speaker 16: gives it a surface. You know, it gets caught both ways.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: It's quite happy to sit there, Andrew.
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  Speaker 16: This is a pretty typical sort of lefty position, virtue
• 44:58
  Speaker 16: on one side, taken the money on the other.
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  Speaker 2: I think this raises the point that we covered with
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: the American New Energy Secretary is that you know, the
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: fossil fuels actually are the foundation for our wealth and
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: you can't get it. We've got all these people trying
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: to ignore the nexus there New South Wales. What a scandal,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I've got to say, Daniel, Rail, tram and Bus union
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: carry on three days of stretch from tomorrow to fight
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: for and get this a thirty two percent pay rise
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: over four years, and governments has got no option but
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: to shut down the system. Thirty two percent increase. Isn't
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: this kind of greed? Exactly why privatizing such services is
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: often the best because a privately owned service could not
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: possibly agree to that extortion. But unions know that their
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: mates in the labor government can always get the cash
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: from taxpayers.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Well exactly.
• 45:53
  Speaker 15: You know, I think this is a line in the
• 45:54
  Speaker 15: sand moment for Chris Mins and his government. I think
• 45:57
  Speaker 15: Chris Mins has been one of the more sensible premiers
• 46:00
  Speaker 15: of our country. Has taken a lot of good decisions.
• 46:02
  Speaker 15: I have to say, keeping a rah Ring could Fire
• 46:04
  Speaker 15: power station open, which is vital not just to his
• 46:07
  Speaker 15: state but to the nation, having the proper commemorations on
• 46:10
  Speaker 15: Anzac Day, for example. He doesn't strike me as a
• 46:13
  Speaker 15: particularly woke kind of leader. I don't think he's going
• 46:16
  Speaker 15: to drive his state into the ground as has happened
• 46:18
  Speaker 15: in Victoria and Queensland. So look, I think he's got
• 46:22
  Speaker 15: a lot of promise. But this is kind of like
• 46:24
  Speaker 15: the Reagan air traffic Controller moment for Chris Mins. He
• 46:28
  Speaker 15: has to stand up to this and he has to
• 46:30
  Speaker 15: say that it's unacceptable. You know, I want everyone to
• 46:34
  Speaker 15: have high wages andrew, but eight percent per year is
• 46:36
  Speaker 15: double inflation, so it's uneconomic.
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: It's unaffordable.
• 46:40
  Speaker 15: It self will drive inflation. If you've got people earning
• 46:43
  Speaker 15: more than inflation, they'll spend it, driving inflation elsewhere in
• 46:46
  Speaker 15: the economy. So look, this is a line in the
• 46:48
  Speaker 15: same moment. Will Chris Mins and his government stand up
• 46:52
  Speaker 15: to the unions on this matter or will they bend down?
• 46:54
  Speaker 15: And in which case that's going to set the scene
• 46:56
  Speaker 15: for many other issues over the coming years in that state.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: But here's the problem, Garth. When the government owns an
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: asset like that, they are blamed. They are blamed in
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: a way they wouldn't quite if it was a private asset.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: And that's the problem. I mean, you make governments then well,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: they can always reach the tax pay to cover these
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: demands privatize, and you don't.
• 47:23
  Speaker 16: Well, look, I do hold a view that there are
• 47:24
  Speaker 16: some things that it's right for the government to own,
• 47:27
  Speaker 16: and I think you need to work your way through that.
• 47:29
  Speaker 16: I guess there's another issue here that I'd like to
• 47:32
  Speaker 16: explore though, Andrew, which is these things happen when you
• 47:34
  Speaker 16: have unholy alliances with governments and unions. We've seen exactly
• 47:38
  Speaker 16: the same thing play out in Queensland with the BPIC
• 47:42
  Speaker 16: legislation that was going on in there, where we saw
• 47:44
  Speaker 16: the labor government dishing out ridiculous amounts of money, incredible
• 47:48
  Speaker 16: paychecks to people within the CFMU. You see people holding
• 47:52
  Speaker 16: stop go signs on two hundred thousand dollars, absolutely routing
• 47:56
  Speaker 16: the system the government in that case. And look, I've
• 48:00
  Speaker 16: got to say, David Cristo Folly has done a great
• 48:01
  Speaker 16: job by overturning that straight away. The question is will
• 48:05
  Speaker 16: New South Wales have the same guns to stand up
• 48:08
  Speaker 16: to these union demands of these incredible wage rises.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Well in the meantime though, Daniel, I've only got ten
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: seconds for it. But the public's are going to be
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: without those trains for three days, I mean, that's just ridiculous.
• 48:24
  Speaker 15: Well, that's right, but that is in and of itself
• 48:26
  Speaker 15: going to build momentum for change, Andrew, because if you
• 48:29
  Speaker 15: know the day today, runnings of a state government means
• 48:31
  Speaker 15: service delivery and getting the trains on time. So if
• 48:33
  Speaker 15: that doesn't happen, public sentiment will change pretty quickly.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: But that's the point, and that puts the pressure on
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: the government to cough up privatize. Daniel Wild, Gneth Hamilton,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: thank you both. That's it from me, Sherry Markson. Now
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  Speaker 2: good night,