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Patriots Unfiltered 3/10: QB Carousel in the AFC, Should New England Target a Wide Receiver in Free Agency · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. Talking to people in Indianapolis last week, as
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  Speaker 1: I did, little quips like that, he doesn't seem like
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  Speaker 1: a head coach at all. Probably flores tough, take no
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  Speaker 1: bullet kind of guy. Whoa, hey, hey, whoa. Yeah, we're
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  Speaker 1: assuming that the Patriots that Patricia's gonna be coaching again.
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  Speaker 1: That's at least what I'm hearing that. What you're hearing
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  Speaker 1: were you talking to How about second best coach Bill
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  Speaker 1: Belichick could make the arch Chucks Fairbanks too. That's why
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  Speaker 1: I shut out Deuce. I would love to see you
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  Speaker 1: push back on Paul once in a while. Please fight him.
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  Speaker 1: You've probably heard of Stockholm syndrome. Yes, yeah, this is
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  Speaker 1: Patriots Unfilled, fueled by Duncan. I'm gonna do my best friend,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Welcome back to JULYTT. What is it? You know?
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  Speaker 1: I had a lot of meetings and stuff not. Don't worry.
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  Speaker 1: Fred will be here in a little while. He's just, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing, but he's he's late Boston.
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  Speaker 1: Things he's tardy. He is tardy, but I'm Eric Scollovino.
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  Speaker 1: Paul Perillo might do so, Matt Morrell behind the glass producing. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it is a Thursday here at Toilette Stadium, an offseason thursday,
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  Speaker 1: a college hoops Thursday in March. So we got a
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  Speaker 1: little distractions going on on our screens, but not for me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because you annoyed it. What is the sport with the
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  Speaker 1: bucket in the balls and the things? Uh, but there's
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  Speaker 1: some NFL news going on. Not a lot of Patriots
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  Speaker 1: directly related, not yet, but it's kind Yeah. You think
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  Speaker 1: you think the storm's coming, it's always coming. Yeah, get ready,
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  Speaker 1: got ready. I feel like it's uh comput trading. As
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  Speaker 1: we were talking upstairs, it's um the tampering period Monday.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's just silly. It's supposed to open Wednesday, but
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  Speaker 1: you basically just moved to open up to Monday. So
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  Speaker 1: I assume there'll be some some some stuff going down,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So do you think it starts now? It
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  Speaker 1: might tampering period, right, it always right, the tampering period
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  Speaker 1: gets the real tamper. Like the first day of the
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  Speaker 1: tampering period, all the news comes out. So obviously they've
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  Speaker 1: been tampering before the tampering period. I think we're probably
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  Speaker 1: tampering an Indian from what I was hearing it in
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  Speaker 1: that's the legal tampering period. Right. Oh yeah, you're still
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  Speaker 1: you're still running that I'm gonna work? Are any still
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  Speaker 1: working that? Are you? But yeah, I mean around the league.
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  Speaker 1: The big news from yesterday, I guess was Carson Wentz. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: another year, another command, another another team. Were you hearing
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  Speaker 1: are you hearing that about the talking to people? I
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  Speaker 1: didn't hear anything about Carson Wentz. No, but wasn't wasn't that,
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  Speaker 1: PAULI wasn't that last week when we were when Fred
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  Speaker 1: was asking us, you know, it seems like all these
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  Speaker 1: coaches are you know, talking openly about that was another example, right,
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  Speaker 1: Frank Reich was basically telling you what you wanted to
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  Speaker 1: know about Carson Wentz. No u B no, no phony endorsement. Nope. Right,
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  Speaker 1: there was no like, oh yeah, he's our guy, We're coup.
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  Speaker 1: He had a lot of nice things to say about
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  Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, but in no way did he say he
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  Speaker 1: was coming back. Yeah, he didn't walk away from those
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  Speaker 1: reports that had already been out there about wentz being
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  Speaker 1: on the block, and I just I know that I'm
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  Speaker 1: believe me. I know I'm obnoxious. Okay, I get it,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. Okay, I'm like adult toothache when there
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  Speaker 1: are little things that I believe in that other people don't. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's go to the map for what is it you
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  Speaker 1: called the salary cat? The salary all right, right right?
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  Speaker 1: The salary cap? You know, you guys know you know
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  Speaker 1: I'm cap is crap. I'm sort of on an island
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  Speaker 1: on it. So this is now. This was an untradeable contract, okay,
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  Speaker 1: this time last year was an untradeable contract. Ye that's
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  Speaker 1: now been traded twice, the same contract twice. Okay, again,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear you talk about that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about money. Money is real, Budgets are real. How
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  Speaker 1: much teams are willing to spend? That's real. The cap
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  Speaker 1: is not. Yeah doesn't that doesn't run. You're gonna make
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna have one million on the cap this year,
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  Speaker 1: seventy million on the cab. Next you can, oh, we
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  Speaker 1: can't trade it, and then you're stuck. You can't trade
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  Speaker 1: Oh wait, they trade it. Oh wait, they got like
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  Speaker 1: a two and a three yeah, what I think. The
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  Speaker 1: crazy thing to me was watching this year a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of that in season Hard Knocks that they did
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  Speaker 1: with the Colts, and they spend a lot of time
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  Speaker 1: focusing on the relationship of Frank Wright and Carson Wentz,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, the how did it come across? At
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  Speaker 1: the time, it seemed like they were like star cross
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  Speaker 1: lovers who were just meant to be together in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: And during the we shared the same Bible Verse, like
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  Speaker 1: we had we we we finished each other's Bible Verse
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  Speaker 1: like if they they were like that, And it just
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  Speaker 1: shows how quickly things can change. And I guess it's weird,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit weird for me, just and I and
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  Speaker 1: I totally get the Carson Wentz of it all. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not impressed with him, but you know, at least coming
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  Speaker 1: out of that game against the Patriots with Indie where
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  Speaker 1: Indie just hammered them, Not that Carson Wentz was part
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  Speaker 1: of that really all in that game, but still like
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  Speaker 1: he came out of that game being like Indie Indie
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  Speaker 1: pretty good. They got a pretty good defense, they make plays,
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  Speaker 1: they got a great running back. I know where you're going,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know the thing on the list of
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  Speaker 1: things that concerned me. Yeah, but it just shows how
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  Speaker 1: hard it is to get the guy. And I guess
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  Speaker 1: in a way, I I credit them for knowing not
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  Speaker 1: the guy, move on and and even though they're tossing
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  Speaker 1: themselves into the into the mix right now, which it's
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  Speaker 1: not a great year in the draft for quarterbacks. There's
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  Speaker 1: not Russell Wilson's been, Aaron Rodgers. They're all settled, so
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  Speaker 1: they they're they're jumping into it a little bit. So
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  Speaker 1: I do respect that. As far the Colts, we'll see
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  Speaker 1: what they end up with. I find it almost impossible
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  Speaker 1: if they won't have an upgrade. I really, I really do.
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  Speaker 1: Probably Yeah, Okay, Well, I mean I think they'll get somebody,
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  Speaker 1: even if it's not Jimmy Garoppolo, which seems to be
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  Speaker 1: all signs pointing in that direction. Jill get still get somebody. Well,
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  Speaker 1: do you get rid of that? Do you get rid
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  Speaker 1: of Wentz the way they did without the plan correct place?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think you have a plan
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  Speaker 1: for Well, so we'll get somebody. You know that's otherwise
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  Speaker 1: known as the paper, but it's always become available. But
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  Speaker 1: I mean it sure was, you know, the shoes just
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  Speaker 1: things just start dropping, and that it seems like they
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  Speaker 1: realize that things are moving and now's the time to
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  Speaker 1: do it. Um. I maybe they wish they had done
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  Speaker 1: it sooner, but I mean, I poor poor commanders. I've
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  Speaker 1: had to think of what their name was there for
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  Speaker 1: saying umic movie. You know, Russell Wilson kind of spurns
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  Speaker 1: them and then you see the reaction not not great
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  Speaker 1: from Washington. They could sign Newton be the commanders's probably
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  Speaker 1: pitching that to him right now. Listen, hear me out,
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  Speaker 1: hear me out, hear me out. He's out there. The
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  Speaker 1: one thing I love I would say about Carson Wentz
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  Speaker 1: that it would certainly seem based on how quickly Frank Reich,
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  Speaker 1: who is a strong UM advocate for Carson Wentz, how
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  Speaker 1: quickly he soured. I would say the reports in Philly
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  Speaker 1: were accurate, the behind the scenes reports of him being
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  Speaker 1: difficult and really odd, based on how quickly it soured
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  Speaker 1: an indie because on the surface he didn't have a
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  Speaker 1: terrible year, right right, that he was terrible in certain games,
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  Speaker 1: one of which was the Patriots game, and one of
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  Speaker 1: which was the game that cost costing the playoffs. At Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 1: But twenty seven and seven, I mean I think that
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  Speaker 1: people would say if if Mac puts that up next year,
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  Speaker 1: I think people will be thrilled. I mean, he had
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven touchdowns and seven picks. That was the one
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  Speaker 1: you came over to my desk and I was like, what, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: is this right? Is this right? But again, I'm very
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  Speaker 1: consistent with this. Watch the games. Don't just look at
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  Speaker 1: a spreadsheet. Watch the game. He didn't play well, right,
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  Speaker 1: and he didn't have a good year, and in particular
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  Speaker 1: moments he was just not not just average, he was bad.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think, uh, he's as bad
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  Speaker 1: as Wentz. But in moments, it's the same thing with Garoppolo,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like in moments like this is not the
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  Speaker 1: guy that much better than I said. He wasn't as
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  Speaker 1: bad as Wentz, But I don't problem the problem with
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy is the moments, and I think it's the opposite.
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  Speaker 1: I think Garoppolo is better in moments. That's when he
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  Speaker 1: plays as well. He has more moments he'll he'll throw
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  Speaker 1: like a couple of picks, and then all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden it's the fourth quarter and he goes and lead
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  Speaker 1: the game in Cincinnati. This year was like an example
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  Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, Like he was unbelievable in the overtime,
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  Speaker 1: but he kind of gets it to that point where
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  Speaker 1: he has to do you know what I mean, he
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  Speaker 1: makes it hard for himself. Oh, I think he's a
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  Speaker 1: little inconsistent. Wentz is bad. Yeah, kind of like right, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I would fight him. Now we're fighting. So I like
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  Speaker 1: to just verbally spar with Fred like that. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: sporting to me. Verbally sparring with Fred and people. You
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  Speaker 1: talk about, my boy? What else did I miss? We
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  Speaker 1: just were just jump We're talking about you know another,
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  Speaker 1: you know another in a week full of you know,
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  Speaker 1: sort of big news in the league, and we didn't
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  Speaker 1: even talk about Jerry Jones yet. Yeah. Yeah, continuing the
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  Speaker 1: big news daddy, what's going on in that bus twenty
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  Speaker 1: five years ago? Like you found that glory? Uh? Really
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  Speaker 1: now that's uh, it's gonna be busy week. I mean
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  Speaker 1: this is uh. I feel like we're on the precipice
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  Speaker 1: of Yeah, and the reshaping of the AFC with Russell
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  Speaker 1: Wilson now in the conference. Yea, the West, it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be Uh, that's good. I mean, I I'd like to see,
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  Speaker 1: you know, good teams challenged. I mean I think it's uh,
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  Speaker 1: the AFC East during the Patriots run certainly never was
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  Speaker 1: that like that. So how does Josh handle it? I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's funny because you look at Cassario goes to
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  Speaker 1: Houston and all of a sudden, this all happens. Josh
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  Speaker 1: goes to Vegas, Bill can I come back? And though
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed my time, that's another one on the list
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  Speaker 1: of things that don't really I don't feel like I
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  Speaker 1: excited about my future in Las Vegas. I don't feel
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  Speaker 1: like I I fall into the group think with the
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  Speaker 1: whole Uh well, why would you take that job? You know,
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  Speaker 1: look at the court like those teams are good in
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  Speaker 1: that divis I'm not a big yeah like like no,
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  Speaker 1: it's to me that the factors no. And I know
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying in terms of what you just said,
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  Speaker 1: because I agree obviously a little bit. The job is
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  Speaker 1: tougher today. I mean that's undeniable. I'm not, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, an anti truther like you added another good
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  Speaker 1: team to the division, right, Um. But to me, when
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  Speaker 1: you're taking your job, you're looking at the structure of
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  Speaker 1: the organization. You know, your potential relationship with the owner
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  Speaker 1: who has to say you know what what what kind
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  Speaker 1: of power do you have? Your ability to formulate your
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  Speaker 1: roster in the players that you have to work right,
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  Speaker 1: and you're not necessarily saying I'm not going to all
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  Speaker 1: those things now Russell Wilson's going to Denver. In additional, Patrick,
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  Speaker 1: I can't control the other teams, I can really control mine.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, Russell Wilson could tear his ACL
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  Speaker 1: in week one and now everything changes back, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, I agree with Paul. You can you go
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  Speaker 1: into it with what you can't control and you don't
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  Speaker 1: worry about the other teams? Yeah, no, this division is
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  Speaker 1: harder than that. Well, certainly don't worry about it now
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  Speaker 1: for them, Yeah yeah, when when it's your week to
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  Speaker 1: play that team, then you're worried if you think Vegas
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  Speaker 1: is the right place for you, because you know that's
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  Speaker 1: then's my point, like, I would never take or not
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  Speaker 1: take a job based on the competition within the division,
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  Speaker 1: right because that's so cyclical, right, and that just tells
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  Speaker 1: you something about the person. If that's that's how you
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  Speaker 1: do with that, unless it's hard to top, like you
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  Speaker 1: already knew going in. You got my homes and you
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  Speaker 1: also got her young Justin Herbert is going to be
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  Speaker 1: there for a while too, so he knew going in.
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  Speaker 1: I just overall, it's, uh, it's just a tough can.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a really tough division. There's no easy game,
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  Speaker 1: especially when talk Drew Locke, like you know that jump
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  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it's like the weapons
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  Speaker 1: all come into focus with what Russell Wilson has. The
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  Speaker 1: the air density up there, he's gonna be throwing at
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  Speaker 1: eighty five. Ye your density. But but remember when we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about, you know, his wife wants to go
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  Speaker 1: to New York and you know so that was all BS. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was all B. Well, she might want to go
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  Speaker 1: to New York, but you know that team doesn't care
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  Speaker 1: about that, like we're gonna trade you to where we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get the most. They probably went to most the
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  Speaker 1: state they could without I think we've learned with this
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  Speaker 1: his wife. So these high profile quarterbacks and their wives
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't really matter and their high profile wives. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, eight five five past five hundred is the
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  Speaker 1: ticket hotline web radio at Patriots dot com. Is he
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  Speaker 1: mal address um. What else is out there? Uh? I
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  Speaker 1: was gonna just bring up the Gard report. What was
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  Speaker 1: the word they use? Excessive research? Excessive research at that
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  Speaker 1: that that word bumps me? How do you do? Does? Like?
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean? One? Like? I would assume the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots are generally excessive, probably about most things anyway, But
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  Speaker 1: there's just something So for those who don't know, Mike
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  Speaker 1: jrd reported the Patriots been doing excessive homework on receiver
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  Speaker 1: group like Alan Robinson was the name that he mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: um as well as the linebacker group was it was another.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just everything that comes out
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  Speaker 1: this week, I feel like is kind of influenced by sure,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as a chatter and you know, as a rule.
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  Speaker 1: I just always think the Patriots kind of reach out
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  Speaker 1: and talk about everybody and they and just because you
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  Speaker 1: find that one nugget, oh, well, they kicked the tires
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  Speaker 1: on Robbie Anderson? How many other guys did they probably
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  Speaker 1: kick tires on? While I are indy, I assume it's
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  Speaker 1: more than just Robbie Anderson, So but I just the
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  Speaker 1: excessive thing stood out to me. We'll see if they
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  Speaker 1: sign a big name wide receiver like a Marii Cooper.
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  Speaker 1: I personally don't really think it's going to happen, but um,
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  Speaker 1: I know that that stuff's like red meat for fans
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  Speaker 1: who are all up my mentions like we need a
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  Speaker 1: number one, get back a number one, that's all they need,
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  Speaker 1: all open my mentions. Don't at me, don't. I do
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  Speaker 1: think Jews makes an interesting point too, about like excessive
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  Speaker 1: and much means too much, too much, and I get
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  Speaker 1: what we like the doctor that delivered him as a baby,
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  Speaker 1: like what was he when he came out of the
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  Speaker 1: excessive I was crying and really crying excessive, And I
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  Speaker 1: do get like what we do for a living, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, not everybody, you know, nugget of information can
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  Speaker 1: be a home run. You know, sometimes you got to
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  Speaker 1: make something out of something, you know, out of nothing,
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  Speaker 1: and this is you know, and I love Mike. This
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  Speaker 1: seems like one of those reports, like a couple they've
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  Speaker 1: they've really done a lot of work on He picked
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  Speaker 1: the use of the word what I got. Yeah, He's
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  Speaker 1: just like and was like I need is what I got,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And maybe someone actually used the word to
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  Speaker 1: maybe but maybe maybe he meant to say extensive, and
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  Speaker 1: somebody thought he's excessive auto correct damn auto correct. It
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  Speaker 1: could be you know, No, there's a fine line between
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  Speaker 1: extensive and excess. But what I really want to know
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  Speaker 1: is what Paul thinks about Peter Kiss. We were just
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  Speaker 1: talking about him. We were just talking about that. He's
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  Speaker 1: a Bran. Bran basically incited a brawl at his team's
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  Speaker 1: conference championship win. They're going to the NCAA's and they
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  Speaker 1: were blowing the team out. He's a terrific player. He's
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  Speaker 1: like one of the highest scoring. He is the nation's
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  Speaker 1: highest score is. Yeah, he's really good. Everybody he's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, five years older than everybody's playing with. But right,
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  Speaker 1: he's a six years six year six years started at Quinnipiac,
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  Speaker 1: transferred to run and then uh and then transferred over
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  Speaker 1: to Brant in the rounds. Yeah, is that? It's the
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  Speaker 1: way is the leading scorer just the injury this year? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: The country? Yeah? Yeah, wow, something to watch then in
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  Speaker 1: the NC double if I don't think probably not yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Um okay, so that's it. That's yeah. We didn't really
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  Speaker 1: get into the Jerry thing men. Yeah, I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: is it? You know? And then um scandal. I still
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: am you know, UM kind of baffled by the number
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: of people who think that NFL players should be able
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: to bet on the NFL. I mean, we talked about it.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about it on Tuesday, and I think everyone
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: in this room agreed, No, you can't. It's insider trading,
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  Speaker 1: you know, bet on everything else. I keep hearing the
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  Speaker 1: things about injury reports and the team's relationships with you know,
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  Speaker 1: draft kings, and I just I've yet to hear anybody
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  Speaker 1: explain to me why that's hypocritical, right, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it. And one of your guys, the
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  Speaker 1: payroll boys, uh lipshots, he was saying, well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: as long as as long as they're betting on their
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: team to win, it's okay. Really, But as Paul laid
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: out before, like if you continue to bet on your
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: team to win and they don't happens, when you get happen,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: you know, Like you know, because if you're a player,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: a coach, or a referee, right, forget about referee, but
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: if you're a player or a coach, to me, it's
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: a lot more easier to influence a loss than it
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: is a win, you know what I mean. Like, so
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: if you get in a hole, what are you gonna
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: you're gonna turn to making a loss or even you
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: can actually influence that, right, you know? Right? And plus
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: it just I think it just goes to the as
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: you pointed out the last show, the integrity of the game.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: You want to make sure that it's everything's on the
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: up and up. You don't want people thinking like that
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: there's any possible chance that anybody on the field is
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: doing something that they shouldn't do to try to win
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the gad. You know you can't have and of course
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: is always the chance. But if you do it and
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: you get caught, it's severe, pet It should be severe,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: very severe, right, it should It should dissuade others from
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: trying to do it. Right, You're you're jeopardizing your career
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: if you do this, Yeah, you know it just to me,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: it's just like remember you remember, I just I just
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: can't understand, Oh, let him do it? Well? Is it
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: partly that, like, has our culture changed that much? Because
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: remember when Pete the Pete Rose thing came out when
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: when we were younger, that was like, you know, banned
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: for life, no hall of fame, like he was a pariah, right, Uh?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And We're in such a culture now of of of
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: fantasy sports and that kind of you know, online betting
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: on your phone, and it's so much easier. Like back
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: in the day, you'd have to physically go to Las
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Vegas or go to Atlantic have a shady guy that
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: you know, play a bet, he places a bet like that,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: you'd have to It really took some effort to do that.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe you pick up the phone and call
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: somebody whatever. But now it's so prevalent that you know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: maybe our culture has just gotten so warded down. It's
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: like whatever, you know, it's mainstream now, I think, and
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: that's I mean, I remember that that's a good thing.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I never was. As everyone who
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: knows you've heard my picks on this show. You know,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I don't when I want well anyway, But one of
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: my Firstsporians when my recruiting trip actually the Holy Cross
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: and the kid that I stayed with, like the whole
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: weekend I was with him, He's making calls betting on
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: football the whole time. And I think that's you know,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: for me, that was my and I think generally that's
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: like what your first impression of gambling was that you
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: had a guy or that it was something. Now it's
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: like there's advertisements. And I'm not saying that that makes
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: it right. It's just it's so prevalent everywhere. Now you're
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: involved in what people are gambling on, go gamble on
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: everything else in the world. And I would and I
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: would say that the guy, who are you betting on
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: holy Cross Hockey? Because like, to me, that's different, Yeah,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: because I I do. I listen, Yeah, that wasn't my point.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, be in an environment that there was a
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: lot of like I have a million friends, just like
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the guy who hosts Yeah, like it's literally countless guys
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: that had a guy that they could call. They had
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: a number. They weren't names, they were numbers, and that's
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: how they did it. That's fine. I have no problem
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: with that. Legal illegal. I'm not the morality police, Like
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not here to tell you what you should and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: shouldn't do. But it's different for someone who's actually involved
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: in high level athletics, right, that's what that that's what
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: the difference is. I can make a bet, I'm not,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: you know, dealing with something that is potentially compromising the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: integrity of the outcome. Of the game and a player
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: is and and think about it. We talked about you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: it's one thing for the point spread and for the
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: outcome of the game. But you get in that hole
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: and you're a receiver and there's a prop you know, um,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Eric Scalavino's gonna catch five game balls this game. That's
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the problem. I'm gonna make. I have a beard, make
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a bet from me, and I'm gonna make damn sure
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: on that fifth ball that comes to me, I don't
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: catch it, right, So I win that bet? Right? You know,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that's so easy to do instead of calling up your
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: guy and being like, so, I want to bet on
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: this random player is gonna catch under fives, especially if,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: like if your team is winning, so like you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: like like let's say you have like a seventeen point
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter two minutes ago, and the
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: pass is coming your way and you're like, oh, yeah,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I can't catch five passes and you drop it. It
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't affect the outcome of the name, but it affects
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: that bet in particular. Still, you don't want that to
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: even be a consideration. And I'm not right and I'm
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: not naive enough to think that players aren't betting on
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the NFL. Oh, no, it happens that no certain and
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: they have people who bet for them. We don't know what.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: But if you get caught, you're screwed. Yeah you should be. Yeah.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: We don't know a sliver of what happened, right, We don't, right,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: And I get it. I'm not naive, but that that's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: why the NFL has to take action if it happens.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: You don't want to be like if if they know
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: it happens, right, Claude Rains in Casablanca whatever, being shocked,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I'm shocked that there's gambling going on here. Are your winning?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Are you a winner? Winning? Like? You have to if
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you if you find out about it, you have to
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: do something about it. I don't think that a year
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: is too excessive to get back to the word of
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the day. There you go, it s excessive, all right?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Und Web Radio and Patriot dot Com is the email address. Uh,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: let's open it up. We'll see what that's on, what's
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: on everyone's mind, and I'm sure they'll take us down
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: different roads. Todd's in North Carolina? What's up, Todd? Hey, there, guys,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I kind of busted due deuces balls for his article
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: on the free agents, saying like, most of these guys
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: are old and slow. And then I thought about it
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: when I said, well, wait a minute, what what is
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the criteria for looking at what you want? Are you
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: is like, are we willing to plug in some old
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: guys just to get leadership or some knowledge or you know,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I just I don't know what? What do? What do
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you do for basing your free agency on your approach
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: to it? What depends what you're looking for? Yeah? I
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: think there's well I think if you you know I'm
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: asking you what you're looking for me? Yeah, I think
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: what I would like is a quality D lineman. Okay,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: then I would say that age is really not a
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: huge factor there. If you want like a defensive tackle
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to come in, like I think do said you had
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: a Keem Hicks, right, Yeah, like I don't know his
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: age wouldn't scare me? Yeah? Like I just needed to fit.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Now if I need like a wide receiver or run yeah,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you know, an athlete that I need to inject some
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: you know, athleticism, a linebacker. I don't want a thirty
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: three year old. I don't want Bobby Wagner. Bobby Wagner
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: is a tremendous player. Yeah. As soon as him available,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, he's a tremendous I love. That's
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the kind of linebacker the Patriots I've been clamoring for.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: But I don't want a thirty three year old one, right,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I want a twenty three year old one. Yeah. I
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: was just basing my some of my thought processes. Our
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: veteran d lineman this last year just didn't seem to correct.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a talent thing, yeah, that they just
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: didn't seem to step it up. Yeah, they didn't get
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: the right one to that. Yeah, right, Okay. I mean
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I think it's a balancing act. And I mean I
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: think building a team, you don't want to get too young.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: You want to still have some veteran presence. But uh
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: but excuse me, did you hear that? You know? I
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: also don't think you can just turn it all over
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: to We haven't even eaten yet, Fred. What are they doing? Matt?
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Matt's going to take care of business down? Why does
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: this marine Muss ties a bandana first? For some reason?
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Like what is Rambo? Like? What is Matt? Look out?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: But I am coming to get you. Yeah, I thought
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I would just say, though, I think generally, you know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Paul and I are the same page. Are just like
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: this team has to get younger. They gotta get younger.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and so that guy's dead now, everybody so
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: covering blood neutralized the word. That was fastest I've ever
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: seen you dispose of my body. That was impressive. Good. Oh,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: that's good. I don't have to bear witness being on
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: the phone. Right. No, I don't know what. I didn't
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: see anything. Thanks Todd, appreciate it. Uh, let's go to
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Aaron in Connecticut. What's that baron? Hey, how you guys
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: doing today? Karen? Um? I was just calling asked about
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: um about the Mark Cooper? How you guys feel about it?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I think the answer off the air, I heard you
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: heard what? Oh I'm sorry, I thought I heard him
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: say that he wasn't really too interested in the Mark
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Cooper or you didn't think it would happen for what reason?
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Is it the money or the money? What is the reason?
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: That's oh money yep? Yeah, age for me, I would
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: take him, well age because you wouldn't pay that much
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: for a guy of that age? Or yeah, well I
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: think that I would. I told you I'm just looking again.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I'm looking to find guys. Now. I think Cooper is
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: a terrific player. I think he's had a good career.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I think that he is What is he like, twenty eight,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty seven? Um, So he's not off the
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: board for me. Like, he's not thirty three. He's not
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: one of these thirty somethings that I'm not interested in. Right,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: He's still young enough and productive enough that I would
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: absolutely be interested in him. I would rather a guy
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that I can you know, if they could sign him
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: to a five year deal and I can have him
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: work with Mac Jones for the next three years, I'm in. Okay,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I'm in. So you're not in to rent the solutions
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: when it comes to offense, in specially offense, Yeah that's
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: what Yeah, okay, So I want to find some guys
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: that can make Mac better going forward, not not for
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: five minutes. Yeah, you want to want them to if
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: they if they want to sign Cooper, I want them
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: to go in and sign Cooper, not like, well, we'll
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: give you a one year prove it deal. He doesn't
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: need to prove anything, right, Yeah, he's gonna be twenty
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: eight in June. Okay, so twenty seven. Yeah, there you go,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Spees and friends. Now, what's going on, guys? How you doing? Okay?
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: All right? All right? Um, you know, even if the
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: guys is betting on his own team, uh, not even
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: betting on the up the opponent. I mean, there's gonna
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: come a game where he doesn't better than own team. Right,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you play less hard, right. Silence speaks more than words sometimes. Yeah,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: it's ridiculous to try and justify it. I'm glad you
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: guys stood up at the good point of view. There
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a question I said. The guy had a draft related
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: question that a Curtains. I was thinking about the Indie
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: game this past season, where you know, coming into it,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: feeling really desperate for the Patriots to win, like probably
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: because it's so insecure about the winning street, like you're thinking,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: why not us? But at the same time thing this
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: team probably isn't as good as good as a record,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: which they weren't, and so I kind of got a
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: feeling like the similar feeling coming into the draft where
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Bill has recently been stringing some stuff together, but the
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: broader context is bad drafting for the last five years
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: or ken. When you're talking about wide receivers, So I
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: have some prepidation. I kind of feel like it could
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: unravel if it's like the broader the recent history, And
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to get your guys thoughts, like gun
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: to the head. What do you think is more likely
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: that Bill continues to string it together with the recent
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: streak drafting, or if he regretsss to what's happened in
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: the past five or so a year. Yeah, it's I
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: mean a good question. Yeah, I mean it's and it's
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: also mentioned in that you know, it's the staff has
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: been evolving too, so you know those those the scouting
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: department has changed a little bit um. But I think
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the bottom line is that they just they can't he
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: can't be afraid to draft a wide receiver based on
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: if you love a guy in the first round and
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: he you know, it's a similar size of nikkil Harry,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: then I think he got to take them. But I mean,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I think that's the truth, and and that's how they
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: get out of this. And everybody's gonna go crazy over
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: free agency in the next week. It's just I don't
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: think that the Patriots are gonna if they're to be
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a contender in the next year, two years, three years.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be made in this
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: you know, particular free agent class in the next couple
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: of weeks. I think it's he's got a string together,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: like like sp said, the draft, you know, and and
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: fill those holes. And there's just so many questions right
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: now on defense about the personnel, and on offense about
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: the coaching, and how does it come together and how
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: do they take the next step. Well, you wonder that,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: you know, you could take chances when you had Tom Brady.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I wonder if they realize that and say, Okay, we
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: got to get more mainstream with our picks. That's the
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: thing I found interesting about the people that Deuce was
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: listening to an indie UM talking to you. I think
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: it was I think Albert Breer was the one that
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: used the phrase that talking to some personnel people, he
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: felt like the Patriots was sort of still acting like
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: they still had Tom Brady, and it's not I think
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: some people would misunderstand. I think the meaning, or at
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: least the way I took the meaning of that it
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: was kind of what you just said, Fred, not like,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: well they think did the class of the AFC that
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: they're super Bowl contenders. No, they're sort of like telling J. C. Jackson,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: you go out and see what's on the market, and
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: then if the market craters, you can come back and
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: come back. You come back, you know, like like we
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: got like tom Brady's going to draw him back, you know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: or you know some resent Amari Cooper is going to
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: sign a one year deal for short money so we
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: could catch a million passes and then go and cash
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: in like tom Brady's gonna do that. Like, yeah, that's
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: what I the way Fred explained that is the way
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I looked at that comment from Breer. But is that
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: a is that a tom Brady thing? Or is that
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: the Patriots just being cheap ass like they usually are? Well, well,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I mean I would you know, it allows them to
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: save money, correct, So like this is the age old problem,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: This is the age old conundrum with the Patriots and
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: their fans and their beliefs. Did they succeed because because
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: of the economic beliefs or did they succeed because they
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: had the greatest player who's ever played the sport, allowing
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: them to be a little bit uh you know, disappoint
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: economic rug Yeah, yeah, you know, like where's the line
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: because I mean, I think the line and right and
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: you know, and Tom Brady didn't step in the league
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: and was you know, I think twenty years that they
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: did it was I mean notable. It was more than
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: just tom Brady centering in and just kicking everybody's ask
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: for twenty years. There was you know a little bit
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: of a curve there. Well, I mean they you know,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: those early teams they um, you know, I don't think
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: it was all tom Brady then, and I mean I
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: probably would agree with it, probably starting about two thousand
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: and seven. And at that point he was, you know,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: a master of everything that he was doing. But that's when.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: But but that's when the rosters went that Like in
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: two thousand and four, no one would say that they
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: don't have a championship roster. No. Yeah, but you know,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: like the two thousand and sixteen that he dragged to
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: within thirty seconds of the super Bowl, that roster wasn't
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: super Bowl worthy. Oh it's not two eleven. Yeah. But
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: but it's the interesting point now where you're you're having
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to choose and do you continue to manage your finances
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: like that? And what they tell you is that we
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: need to have one to fifty three. We need to
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: spread it out. We can't and that's you know, how
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: it was sold to us UM exactly. But does that
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: can that work now if you don't have at least
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: one alpha dog at the time. I think that's what
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: when Fred, when you said it like that, that's what
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: it reminded me of, Just that comment that I heard
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Albert Brier say last week. I think on on Zoe
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: and Beatle, Yeah, they have to adjust, they're thinking because
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: they don't have that greatest player who ever played that game.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: But but at the same time, I mean, I think,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: you know, the teams can be conservative, right, like, I
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: mean that can financially like you know, like that. But
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: but but it gets back to what we were just
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: taught about. You must draft. Well, yeah, that's the consistently.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would tell you the way to
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: do it in the NFL and be a consistent winner
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: is to spend wildly every year in free agency, right.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would would advocate for that. Yeah,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: but it's it's about being art and when you're gonna
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: drop the big bucks like Stefan Gilmore. I think that
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: worked out, you know, And that was one where I
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: was blown away. I didn't think that they valued cornerbacks
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: like that. I didn't think in any situation that they
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: were jumping in that market. And they went right into it,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: and you know, it worked out, it really did, and
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: so in that regard it it's good. But I also think, like,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you know, you look at how they spread the money
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: around last year, and we've talked about it a little bit,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: like could they have maybe taken two of those guys
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and translated that into one like could you take the
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Aggalore Godshaw money and make that into somebody like me? No,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: but they hadn't picked the ones that you don't think.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I love it, but I love it. But who who
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: would you like? Last night year? Who would you have
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: done it? Now? I don't think that. I think they
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: would have. They had the money and no one else did,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: so they would have done that if there was somebody
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: that much better than Hunter Henry and John O. Smith
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: for example, and you know, if if if they spent
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: through the notes for those guys, right, No, but if
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Kelsey was available, I think they would have combined that
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and gotten Kelsey instead of those too. You know what
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I mean? I don't I mean I don't. I do. Oh,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I think if they got Kelsey, Yeah, I think they
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: don't believe in that contract. They had the money, they
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: don't believe in that contract. I don't think they would
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: do it. I don't think they would have made the
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson trade because of the contract, not because of like,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: oh we think mac Jones is feeling incomparable. I think
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't. They don't. They're not interested in giving that
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: guy the forty million dollar deal. Yeah. It's also I
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: think reflected in the extensions that they've given out and
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: the guys that they signaled that they want to keep,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: which is not really anybody right now. I mean, who
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: on this team right now is in their second and
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: like it's nobody. It's Jonathan Jones and it's Shack Mason.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Those are the guys that that got the got the
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: extension that they could play ball with. But you know,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: now we're talking about those guys as well, they're taking
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: a big chunk and they're not really those guys anymore.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: They're not you know, Jonathan Jones is not you know,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: an outside number one corneries great players, and that was
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: and that was a big extension. Yeah, see, those are
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: the extent. This is why I all he's fight back.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: And this is not because you use the word earlier
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: of the cheap moniker. I don't think they're cheap. They
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: think something different financially than a lot of other teams do.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I think they want to give what. I think that
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: they're more than willing to give average players like money
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: that you wouldn't think that you would need to give. Yeah,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: and Jonathan Jones is an example of that. He's a
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: good slot guy. I don't think he's like the best
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: slot guy. I don't think he's a difference making player.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: And all of a sudden you look up in his
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: cap number is what pull it up for you? Nine
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: million Brown there Ballpark, you know, like, I think most
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: people will look at that and say, is Jonathan Jones
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: worth like that? Like? So, I don't think they're cheap.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I think they think more of you know, the special
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: teams veterans than a lot of other teams do. And
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: you know, we have to invest cap dollars in you know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: a couple of million here for Slater or couple of
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: million there for Bethels. And that's where I mean a
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: lot of other teams have those guys making like seven
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars and there's no difference, right
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: eighty eight million? Yeah? Eight million. I brought up, you know,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: a few months ago. I think we kind of too
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: a little argument about Bill playing favorites with players when
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: we were talking about the guys, you know, the older
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: veterans that were playing over some of the younger guys.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: This is another example of favorites where if he likes
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: a guy, doesn't matter what position he plays, I'm gonna
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: pay you. Did you do what I tell you? I
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: like you? You know what I mean? Like that? And
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I would wonder is even guys that I really really like,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: like a guy like Devin mccordy, did it really acquire
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the amount of money to hanger on you know in
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: year nine, ten eleven, whatever it is, and making that
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: kind of money to be a starter back there and
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: still a good player. But basically I want him as
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: a mentor and a leader, like did it cost you
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: that much? You know? Is that what everybody is paying
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: for leadership nowadays? Maybe it is, Maybe it's just the
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: sign of the times. Maybe it's the cost of doing business.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: What I think that they would walk away from a
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: guy making yeah, like the quarterback making forty five million
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: dollars a year. I don't think they would want that. William,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: some fellam, what's up? Will them brollos? What's going on? Hey? Hey, Willie?
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: How y'all doing? Uh? Just uh, touch on a juicel Jackson.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: That's it, And I'm not too well. First of all,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I just want to give y'all praise man, y'all being
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: too a pandemic when the hatch came out and when
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: y'all have held it down. But for us, well, I'm
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to speak for anybody, but I
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: would say y'all do an excellent John just sometimes as
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: y'all as working as hard as y'all do. Sometimes y'all
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: just need to hear that you appreciate this guy's no problem,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: no problem them. So the Rotney uh was Rodney Anderson? No, Robbie,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Robbie and Robbie. Yeah, Robbie, And I'm sorry, No, Yeah,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I don't think he's I don't
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: think he's worth pursuing. I agree, right, let me say
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: it again, nice and long with it. No, See, that's
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: what we'll go back to A Marie Cooper. They would
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: rather have Robbie Anderson. Yes, Now, like I'm gonna push
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: back here on everybody. What what what does everybody have
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: against Robbie Anderson? He's never made an important catch in
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: his career like against done well when oh I remember game?
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Don't make me go to my phone, Deuce, you have
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: a computer there. He's a thoroughly average player. Who yeah,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: is He's like a David Gibbons type, isn't he? Yeah?
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I have no interest in David Gibbons right now, okay,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: all right, right now? They need a number one receiver.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: David Gibbins isn't there, And I don't think Robbie Anderson
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: is either. No, no, But that's why I'm not interested.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: He's not gonna get number one money, of course he is.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: You think that's what he makes? Why do you think
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: he's on the block? Okay, all right, I've never really
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: cared for him. Can you give me his game by
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: game against the Patriots? Because I seem to remember like
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: one catch for eight yard kind of games against I
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: seem to remember him being a pain in the ass
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: when he was with the Jets. Yeah, maybe a few times.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: But we're about to find out and I come as
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: always this narrative. Let me say, I think I hear
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: from Patris and filter you gentlemen and a lot of others. Well,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Matt needs a receiver. And I'm saying to myself, Okay,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: y'all expecting him to be good in his second year.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: A receiver ain't gonna just get it. I think, what's
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: just just looking at what Russell Wilson gonna have, man,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I think Bill better Dan, Well, get this man some
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: real receivers and stop playing like I don't know how
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be done though with the camp and you
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: only got a certain amount of pig, you know, And
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I feel all these holes and when I am it's
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: just like Mike said, it's like you got to hit
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: on this draft, you know what I mean. At least
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: five picks should be ready to go. I don't know
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: five is a little tough, but yeah, three, let's go
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: for three. Yeah, okay, I can go. I'd love to
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: get a Day two and a Day three receiver this year.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I've wanted a Day two receiver the last two years.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's just there's just so many guys that
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: that can help, and I just you got Kendrick Bourne
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: is the only one under contract for the next year.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: You got to do something there this year to build
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: some continuity there. And maybe maybe it's Jakobe Myers. But yeah,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: all right, my last topic. Yeah, I'm out your way.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: This is my last topic. Um, and I just want
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: to hear from each and every one of y'all. Okay,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: you say that, Mike, So let me ask you, Paul
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: fred Eric, Um, who would you Who would y'all want
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: to two receivers? I mean, right, is in the second round,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: that's fine, But I just want to hear who would
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: y'all want the Okay, in the draft? Yeah, if you
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: played at Alabama or Ohio State, Right, you're one of them. Listen,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: meet you or Williams. I'll take either one. And you know,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: but maybe not with twenty one. You know, I continue
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: to say, Garrett Wilson, second round them Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: if they drop, I grab them. Yeah, you know, I
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: don't know which guys I want to receive in the
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: second round. One Dale one, Dale Robinson is supposed to go.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: He's gonna go in the range because he ran slow,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: so he's gonna fall from Utah. Devin Lloyd Lloyd. Yeah.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I mean he's a he's a popular one too. But
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I think there's a um see again, I I haven't,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I haven't do really really hard into him, but you know,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: my initial impression with him is like a four to three,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: you know, four low for three guy who just runs
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: down the field really fast and burns people. And that's
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: like that, and that's not really what I want. I
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: want a guy that can do a bunch of things.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: And I mean, like I said, I love I love
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson Um, you know, I, like I said, a
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: little less higher on a lave Um, still love him.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: But I just I think that, you know, this is
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: the league now, you need dynamic weapons. I think every
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: year I would, you know, consider drafting a quarterback, and
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: every year I think you should draft a wide receiver.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: It's just it's such an important position. And I think
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: there's a bunch of guys that, you know, in the
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: in the day two you can find a guy who's
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: got some wheels, and in you know, the later rounds,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: maybe you find one of those little slot guys that
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: that everybody loves and you know, fits that kind of
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Wes Welker Uh, Julian Edelman kind of need that everybody has,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: even it's just a punt return. I mean, Gunner is
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: kind of that guy. So um, but I think they're
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: just options everywhere for for what you want. And I
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: wouldn't really complain about any other idiot. Thanks William. So
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: you guys want to hear about thanks, Oh, please do
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: because I have the prolific career. There was one reasonably
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: good game. There was one reasonably the game where he
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: was targeted twelve times and had four catches for seventy
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: six yards. Is the eight here we go, two for
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: thirty four, none for none, one for two. These are
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: catches catches for yards three eleven, two for twenty two,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: three for twenty four, three for eleven, one for ten,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: and one for two. He is o and nine career
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: against the Patriots. He's had Maybe I'm thinking of Wayne
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Krabet seventeen career catches for one hundred and eighty one
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: yards and no touchdowns. And he said Belichick was sick,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: sick out of having a game plan. I think he
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: did a pretty good job. Game plan set him down well,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Robbie said. When I think when they're playing the Panthers,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: they Robbie Anderson said, oh, you know, I had they
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: pursued me a little bit, and Belichick had told me
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: that he was sick of having a game plan for me. Well,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: he did pretty good job job. I think the game
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: plan consisted of Stephie, you come out cover him a right? Right? Right?
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: What's his career numbers? Not just but like you know,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: what's he do? He had one good year? Yeah, one
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: good his first year with Carolina he had a thousand yards? Yeah.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Do you have his career stats in front of yeah?
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I got um so I just do catch his yards touchdown?
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: So rookie year twenty sixteen with the Jets so forty two, five,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: eighty seven, sixty three nine, forty one, fifty seven, fifty two,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: fifty two, seven, seventy nine. I mean he's it's Kendrick
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Bourne's Yeah, exactly what did I say? We have to
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: be so? But why I already have I know? But
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: why do you think he's gonna get number one receiver
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: money based on that? I don't know. He's under a
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: contract for number one receiver money that he signed in
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Carolina extended him, didn't he is that he signed initially
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: and then he signed next mention as well, I believe so,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I think you don't have
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: to deal with the signing bonus. So it's just based
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: out of you. So it's probably not out, you know,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: outrageous at this point. But he like that's what he's
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: supposed to be, is a number one receiver. And okay,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I think we have three of him. Yeah, he's faster
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: than the guy. I don't think he's a number one receiver,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: but he's not. I think he'd be it up. I
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: think he'd automatically be probably our number two. Yeah, I don't.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I think he's the same as the three guys you have. Okay,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: pretty much wildly inconsistent. Try to get another guy around
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: the league that's been around and try to make him
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: the number one. Like draft guys, develop them, bring them
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: in here, let them learn. It's only that's only, it's
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: only you don't have to you can still draft a
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: receiver if you bring him in. He's only under contract
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: for ten million damage, it's not it's not outrageous money
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: eight point eight in twenty twenty three, So he is
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: due a two million dollars signing bonus. I mean, I'm
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: sorry roster bonus. So I guess that's twelve million for
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: twenty two Yeah, with a potential out there. So, I mean,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting into all the particulars. I leave that
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: to Miguel Um. So it's not an outrageously expensive contract.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: But he's not that player. He's not worth twelve million
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: dollars to me. Okay, Eldred's in North Carolina? Are Cooper? Absolutely,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I would take him for that. What's up, Eldred, I'm
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: not gonna get him. Hey, take it good, yo. You
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: know what. I love y'all so much, man, because you
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: know what y'all can repeat me five years later. I mean, no,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: answered you wrong. Mccordy is good, good players. He wasn't
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: worse than to me. Like I told y'all once before.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: They me five kids, five players. They worked him to me,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you know, and I get scanty the chief. We went
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: to Super Bowl with Brady. He did five good plays
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: in over them years. But I'm glad I'm listening to you,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: and glad y'all listen to me right now. Thanks for
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: helping us, but so and prayer too. Ain't no way
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: in the world I'm gonna take a sucking day receiver,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Like I said, lovel William. I don't know about me, Keith,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Wilson or Dodson. They're going in day one and when
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: like I said, most of those three of those guys
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: are down there about twenty one, twenty two or twenty eight,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I'm taking one of those proven commodity. I'm taking on
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the sucking day that might be I'm not gonna do that,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: but you know, but Mac does need to be that.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: But what I'm worried about who's gonna be whos gonna
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: run the offense? That's what's getting the devil out of me, right,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Who's gonna run the offense? Who's gonna run offense? Understand
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I knew you got coaches, but you got the offense
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: the court day, m Daniel don't. That's what's worry me about, Matt,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: you know, because I like, you know what they're saying,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: when you have two head coaches, you really have none.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: That's right. Two head coaches are assistant coaches, right, and
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: neither one was really good at their job. But when
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: being the head coach, so I was just a details
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: but h But like I said, I hope what I
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: would like to do? What would happen if we had
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: to I don't think we got the cap space. I
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: would take a fly on. I would give uh j
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. I stuck around peak for Gallup because he's
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: on he's on the Uh. He's the agent right now.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: He's a free agent. So you can't so you can't
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: trade for So we're drafting run in the first, we're
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: trading our second. Okay, then that came that throw that
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: out there. Now, I'll go ahead and get like I said,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: those three guys in the first round, because the proof
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: come out of because look at Chase and look at Borrow, Uh,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: look at Smith and it hurts. And did you look
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: at Watterle and and um and what what? What did
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: you what did you see with Chasing Hurts? Huh Smith?
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I mean chasing Uh, I mean not Chase Smith and
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Smith and hurt. Yeah, that you know. So, so I
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: think either you get somebody's familiar with whatever I will
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: give Matt Williams or meeting you know, and go from there.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Now non conforming, well, Metchi probably a day two guy.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not conformed. I'm all in on Metchi. I would
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I would welcome that one, but I would take him
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: in the first one. I would take him in round
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: the injuries. The injuries, Yeah, I'm more willing to guys.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: He's not going to drop to round two. He says, Yeah,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: I think everybody has him in round two. I mean,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know some people. I'm in three. Will Whenever
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I talk about draft and where guys are going, I'm
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: going strictly based on what I read, not what I know.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna bug you, Eldre. But I didn't
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: like Jamison Williams. I just he didn't like his personality
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: and kind of just his demeanor. It just did not Portman.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Mike is No, there was a precedent with Mike not
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: liking talent. Yeah, that's true, because we're not all going
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: to work that exactly. He got. He didn't like the
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: cut of his jib. He got six. You know guys
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: that that you could go in the first one. They're
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: not all going to be superstars, No they're not. Some
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: of these guys are. We're pumping their tires right now
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: and they're gonna If this guy was healthy, he'd be
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: going in the top ten. Sure. Sure, you know he's
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: more gifted. I was like Jamison Jamison Williams, James Jameson.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: He's going he's going twenty three. Yeah, but I said
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: if he was healthy, he would not be around and
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: beyond ten. He's dynamic. He's the fastest. I mean yeah,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: trust me, I paid next to him. I know, I
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  Speaker 1: know him pretty well. Why he's one of my bathroom buddies. Indian.
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  Speaker 1: He's like Joe Flacco by Mitcam. You only run straight,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: but like I think you could right route three. I
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: told y'all that I heard they were going to try
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: to trade for Metcalf. I gotta be honest with you, Eldred.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: The longer Metcalf is in the league, the lesson pressed
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I am with him. I'll be honest with him. Yeah,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I think ruf Wilson. They had something to do with
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: that later on, but in the beginning and that won.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: You know what. Yeah yeah, but if we had Mac
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: thrown it to him, we wouldn't have any anything to work.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Y'all have a good man, all right? Yeah. That that's
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: why I love him, because you could go back and forth.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: L happened. He knows that we're just kidding. Just sports.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: It's sports. M give me my sports. That was another one.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: As soon as Wilson was traded. Everyone just assumed Seattle's
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: just gonna like Tyler Lockett's coming, Yeah, and DJ everybody,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what Seattle's doing. Okay, so maybe
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Seattle is actually gonna blow it up. Yeah, but they're
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: gonna strip away every valuable piece that they have and
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: just completely started over. But to me, if I was
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: trying to do a complete and total rebuild, I would
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: take the talented players that I have on good contracts
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: and I would try to keep them, yeah, for at
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: least through their contract. Everybody is writing about Tyler Lockett,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: who would make perfect sense in the slot and be
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: able to do this, this and this, and he's really affordable.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: And I say to myself, then why does Seattle want
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: to get rid of them right now? Maybe they will.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're just determined because you have to replace these people.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're determined to get rid of all of their
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: good players like Miami did, which you know may or
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: may not have been legal a couple of years ago.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: And maybe that's the whole impetus behind this. They want
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get rid of Tyler. Tyler Lockett doesn't make
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of money. He's a very affordable player who
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: is very productive. I love Tyler Lockett. I'll take him
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: in a blink, But I just don't really understand why
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: they're just going to hand him to the Patriots when
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: he's under an affordable contract. DK Metcalf is still on
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: his rookie deal. Like I heard our buddy Bighead talking
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: about DK Metcalf, Patriots should make a run it. I'm like, oh,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: you know why he likes him now, But a lot
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: of people like him. He's a really good player. I
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: you know when I say I've been less impressed with him,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: I think his production has gone down a little bit.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I think he's been kind of a diva at times
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: on the sideline when he's not getting his touches and whatnot.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Typical receiver. So, but why is Seattle gonna take some
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: of the guys that, like Bobby Wagner was making a
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: lot of money. I get that. And he's old and
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: he's old, and he's old. Yeah, like, you know, yeah,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: if Seattle ahead, I was just gonna say, luck, it's
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: it's impressive his you know, just his stats. I mean
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: he's pretty much gotten better every single layer, extremely productive,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: has been has has missed one game in seven Seasons player.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: I really like the way he plays, and I think
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: he'd be a really good patriot the way he plays. Um.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: The other show, we were talking about the etymology of
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: take a flyer. Yeah, and uh, you know, matta evidence
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: about the flyer the American flyer sled. But that's not disputed,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: that's not worth Um. This is from David and he
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: says the phrase is much older than the American flyer
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: sleds with steal runners. I know you care about accuracy.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: So before there were stock exchanges, shares and companies were
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: advertised by broadsheets handed out to wealthy people, who most
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: often who often threw them away to fly in the wind.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: To take a flyer meant to invest in a speculative venture.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: A classic example is the East India Company Bubble, which
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: bankrupted thousands and caused the British government to raise taxes,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: especially on its colonies, precipitating the American Revolution. Wow, okay,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: so I have questions. Hold that up there, don't I
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: didn't get So he said, you know, take a flyer
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: meant to take a risky and a speculative based on
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: one of these broadsheets that you get. That's exactly what
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: it means, like that's the meaning of the taking. I
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: don't think there was ever any real question about what
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: take a flyer means. No, but the broadsheet would have
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: these speculative ventures written about invest in here, and so
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: it's kind of to take a flyer. I think, like,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: here's the information, information and just grab it. I think
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I think it's more along that line. No, but I
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: mean the right, Oh, it absolutely is this. Maybe on
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: your way to get the fight, you were on the
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: you were on the sled and as you went by,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: you grabbed, grabbed the fly, right, so you're on. I
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: mean it all comes to very rarely do any of that. Uh, oh,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: nice pass, Paul. It's still uh, it's still I find
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: it jarring that Syracuse is not in the Big East. Yeah,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: and I look at it, especially this time of year. Yeah,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: it's weird. It's weird. Um. David Wisconsin writes in I
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: know that the specific coaching responsibilities haven't been announced, but
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: if Patricia and Judge don't work out and mac Jones
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: and the offense take a significant step back, would that
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: lead to Bill being on the hot seat with the Crafts?
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Depends on what what the record, Yeah, what's the record
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: at the end of the well, I'm assuming if offense
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: is not as good as last year, that great. I
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: don't think you'll have any evidence. It's not going to
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. I don't think you're gonna have
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: any evidence, like tangible evidence to point too. And it
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: says Patricia and Judge didn't work out. No one knows
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: what they're doing. You're not gonna know what they're doing.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Mister Kraft will he will? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: You don't know. I don't know. I don't know about that. Okay, uh,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: but but think about it. I think mister Kraft knows
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: who the defensive coordinator is right now. Yeah, Um, I
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: think I think he knows what the plan is. Oh,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: he might know what a plan is. I mean, you
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: know who was the who was ultimately in charge last
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: year the defense. Yes, I think really, And that's no
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: slight to mister Craft obviously before I en end up
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: getting myself fired. Yeah, Like, I'm just saying I think
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Bill is incredibly basis. Yeah, and I don't think. I
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: mean I've seen enough on camera, like I can only
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: imagine what he does off camera based on how little
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: information he gives the owner on camera. Yeah, that was
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: over a decade ago. Though, Yeah, I don't think it's
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: gotten any better. If you had to say better or
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: worse since then, I would say yeah. But I mean,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure that Robert has a really good
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: relationship with Gerod Mayo talks to him. Yeah, you know, right,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: so he'll find out somehow, have to be Bill necessarily
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: telling him. I just think, and I think you're right, Fred.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I think last year the mac Jones and the Patriots
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: offense was average. I think, and that's and that's and
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, I think average
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: was by average. But I think that fans are than
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: invested in mac Jones and the offense. And I think,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: speaking for myself, I'll be more forgiving of the defense
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: if it turns over and they play some guys. But
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: I think if the offense isn't producing at least at
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: an average level, I think that that's going to really
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: racle the Is that a word, Rakle, Yeah, it's really
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: gonna bug the fans. I mean, I think, but I
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: think that I think that's the key. I think that's
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: everything is And I said it before building around Mac Jones,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: the offense ascending, but you know, getting to that level.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: If you want to compete with these teams in the AFC,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: you need to be able to say right now, like
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: the path to the playoffs for the Patriots is not
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: winning the AFC East, you know, because you got to
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: beat the Dolphins and the problems. But that's why the
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: denvers of the Indies of the world are what they've
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: done in the last week's concerning right, because those are
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: two teams that were behind you, right, that may be
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: ahead of you now, right. I mean, in INDI's case,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: it was an average team that took you to the
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: woodshed with a bad quarterback, right, and if they get
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Garoppolo or I don't know, Marcus Mariota, they might be
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: better than you. Mike. I'm not saying they are not
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  Speaker 1: Felgren Mads and just automatically. No, there's another one, Mike.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: They're ahead of you now, Mike, I can't do it.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: You on that. Did Jimmy have the surgery yet? Yes
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: he did, he did have it already. Ye, Jimmy feels good. Hero.
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  Speaker 1: Paul I can't get I can't get by Buffalo Miami.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: That's that's where my thoughts are you like, you know, hey,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: we run into the Indie and maybe makes a great point,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: but you lost too. There's another team that was behind
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: you that beat you twice and finished one game back.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's a great point that Mike brings up
• 58:09
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  Speaker 1: when Bill Beach too wit in a game hasn't happened yet, right,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: And I mean everybody remembers how bad it looked against Buffalo.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I mean a couple of these games against Miami and
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: they weren't much better and all they and same kind
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: of thing, especially where you've needed wins. You've needed wins
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: against that team the last couple of years, and you
• 58:30
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• 1:08:05
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  Speaker 1: that was pretty awesome? Yeah, I love that. Uh the
• 1:08:11
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• 1:08:15
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• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: That's that's kind of like a microcose him of like
• 1:08:24
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• 1:08:27
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• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: two weeks going into the game. This scheam team's gonna
• 1:08:33
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  Speaker 1: And like, you know, to be able to go in there,
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  Speaker 1: and I remember the first play of that game. I
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: went in there and tried to dig out the force
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: on on cam and I used to be I would
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: go in hard, and you know, I'm not like a
• 1:08:50
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• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: hit that guy and like he didn't move. It was
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: like hitting a tree like rooted. And like he was
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: so polite. He goes, young Villa, don't hit me like that,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: like or so, I don't remember, but it was a
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: very polite thing what he said to me. Like so
• 1:09:13
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• 1:09:16
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• 1:09:18
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• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: you know that that's kind of the football player I
• 1:09:25
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• 1:09:28
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• 1:09:30
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• 1:09:32
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• 1:09:35
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• 1:09:38
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• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: So that was my favorite one. That's a little tease
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• 1:10:05
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• 1:10:09
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• 1:10:13
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• 1:10:21
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• 1:10:28
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• 1:10:29
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• 1:10:32
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• 1:10:37
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• 1:10:39
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• 1:10:41
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• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Oh I know, but like you know what I mean,
• 1:10:46
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• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: So Julis is around, he was, he was in here. No,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: oh he's remote. Always interesting. Yeah, so good stuff. Thanks
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Matt for that little rejoin. That's what they call it
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: right in the biz. Rejoin. Correct, Yeah, what you're correct,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: I'm correct. It's it's a rejoined dirty after twenty eight,
• 1:11:34
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• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: right now, what are you guys laughing? That's worry about it.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. Stop touching each other. It's like
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: we're in the middle of one of those phone calls
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: that we've watched. Interesting, we're having us on Tuesday or
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: Paul isn't like because he wasn't involved. He wanted to
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: be involved in the Edleman one should have been, No,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't. You should have been why. Well, if someone
• 1:11:53
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• 1:11:56
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• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: I was asked to do something, I wouldn't say no,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing it covered his whole career. Yeah, but
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not any more qualified to ask questions than Matt
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: is Matt. He probably knows you the best of all
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: those guys though, right, but he probably knows Matt has
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: great relationships with all of it whatever because they do
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: the TV stuff with What about Bemo? Yeah? That mean anybody? Right?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: I mean due saw Edelman in the locker room once
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: he has a better room once. Who's giving Paul gloves?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: It was? It was not a convenient time for me yesterday.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: I had to get home and uh witness the final
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: game of my son's high school junior basketball career. Tough lost.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Tough lost to eighty to seventy nine. They lost. That's
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: a good question, that's it. We should get the etymology
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: of that now too. He's a barn burner Yeah, there's
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: so much activity, it's like a fire going on in
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: the barn. It probably was something that happened in a barn.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: You just have barn storming games, remember those, And then
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: there was probably one of those games that ended up
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: in a fire barn. Probably, yeah, right, and find out
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: only we had a way to find out. Yemy in
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Texas writes in at web Radio at Patriots dot Com.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: He says, let's say Josh McDaniels really likes mac Jones
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: and he offers to trade Derek Carr for him. Would
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: you do that trade? And which team has to give
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: up something extra? I think the Patriots. Mac Jones for
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: Derek Carry straight up, The Patriots would have to give
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: up something Actually, I think so, But I honestly don't
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: think that either team would be interested in that trade. Well,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: there's a new factor in Las Vegas, and it is
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, And like, what if he does love mac Jones?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: You know, I know I understood the question, But be
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: a tough move for Josh. Second, I mean, it's a
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: very well thought out hype article. Josh loves mac Jones
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: and he's going to get him if he can, Like, well,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: that's a I mean, that's a plausible scenario, absolutely. But
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: if that's the case, then I think he's coming, and
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: he probably might, even though I think the Patriots, if
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: you estacted apples to apples, the Patriots might give more.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: But if Josh really wants them, then they kind of
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: have them where they want them. They can ask what
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: they want. Yeah, I don't think would be like mac
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Jones and two ones for Derek Carr or anything like that.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: I just think they would have to throw something in. Yeah.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: I agree with Paul though, I think that would be
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: kill Harry. Yeah. I don't think either team would want
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: that though, especially with what's going on in that division
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: out west, now, Like, are you really going to trust
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: your fate to this guy going to his second year
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: as opposed to a more veteran, established, uh you know,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: reliable leader in Carr. I mean, your better chance of
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: winning would be with him. The part of the hypothetical
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: that does make it different is Josh obviously doesn't have
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: those concerns about Mac Jones. Yeah right under under this
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: under yeah right, So yeah, I mean I guess it
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: could happen. I just don't I don't think that I
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: don't think Bill would want to trade for a guy
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: who you'd have to then give a contract too, and
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: I think that's the deal. Brander Tony says, I've emailed
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: the show a few times during the past two year
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: years that this is a three to five year rebuild. Frankly,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: I think at this point it's still a three to
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: five year rebuild. The camere was wasted in terms of
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: a rebuild, and the team is so bereft of young
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: talent in their prime or on the verge of breaking out,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: and so lacking in speed that it's going to take
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: that many years to become a serious contender and a
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: stacked AFC. And that's assuming drafts like last year and
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: a couple of free agents who are actual difference makers,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: not jags or even competent players welcome to the middle. Yeah,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: that's what it is, I mean, and I agree, But
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: that's that's where they're at. They've got to hit these
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: draft picks. And I think it's interesting though, that point
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: of like twenty twenty being a last year, because I
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: think at the time I was seeing twenty twenty as
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: more of a reset than it really was, because I
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: thought you were establishing who can play and who can
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: and we can then elevate those guys. And as we
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: talked about last year, it didn't really happen. They went
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: back to the well with some of the older guys.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: So you know, is it going to happen now? Yeah?
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: It seemed like they were conflicted the last two years,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: like do we want to rebuild or do we want
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: to compete? Can we kind of go? Can we do
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: a little bit of both? And I don't think you
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: can do a little bit of both. I think you
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: have to try to pick one or the other. Can't
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: be a little pregnant, right, Josh and Turners falls Massachusetts
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: rights in This is my first shot at who am
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: I gamed? Oh? And what better way to start than
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: with some of my favorite players. Though they are not
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: the most high profile guys necessarily, but these are Patriots.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Bring it on. First, one, ready, we know the rules.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: You get one guest, you're wrong, you're out right. First,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: I'm currently an analyst for the Big ten Network. Second,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: I was a key contributor to LT's famous and maybe
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: that comes from their coach quote, this is a former Patriot. Yeah, okay. Third,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: and everyone might get it now. I played my college
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: ball at Purdue Rob Nikovich, Rosie, it all makes sense
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: now he doesn't work for the Big ten network. Nikovich.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: That is next one for last year, I was inducted
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: into the Mississippi Community in Junior College Hall of Fame.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: M Malcolm Butler. Nope, Um when I out? Yeah, huh yeah,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: you're out. When drafted out of Houston, I was twenty
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: five years old, Sebastian woman. No, it's down to Paul.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: I'll take all the time I need play. I won
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: two rings with the Patriots and OH one and oh
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: three of Houston one and all three drafted out of
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Houston twenty five. Give up the time Antoine Smith draft him. Now,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: he didn't say that. He didn't say the Patriots said
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: he was drafted. He was drafted by the Bills. Yeah,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: it is not really Yeah, I mean I think were
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: implied that it was Button Hotel Roosevel Covin wasn't drafted
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: by the Patriots. He didn't say that anyone I know.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: But if he'd said he got drafted, he didn't. But
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: it didn't he That's that's a perfect point to illustrate
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: my confusion. He didn't say he was drafted out of
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: Purdue to imply that the Patriots drafted Mary. He just
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: said he played his college ball at Purdue and when
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: he got to dance on Smith, he was drafted. Are fine,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's fine. It's okay. Um, next one, ok.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: I have a brief cameo in the movie Stuck on
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: You next to another slightly more famous New England star.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: Was like, I can't know. I no, no, I've seen
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: that movie incredibly, I know where the bigger star is.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: But second, despite Belichick's recommendations that I get the starting role,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: Coach Parcels instead went with Terry Ray. Now I'm off
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: remember that Terry teeth Like, I think, I think you
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: everyone should get this. In the first one, yeah, pressure,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: my mother was a semi famous musician in Yes, Eric,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: very good, Eric Ing ding ding dinging, Yes, okay, well
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: thanks for the game, Josh and Turners falls very good, excellent,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: you know good. You messed up, Paul, so he said,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: you know you didn't do it right, But I just said,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: excellent job. I literally just said the words excellent job.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: A little excessive if I it was even one of
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: the better ones, because they weren't easy. Yeah, yeah, required
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: some thought and we split, yes, one one and one
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: and one. No one got rashot from Baltimore, writing in
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: I like versatility. You know you call something more you
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: can write sometimes. I like that. I like that, he
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: says with Russell Wilson going to the Broncos. In terms
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: of the AFC hierarchy, where would you put the Patriots
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: as of now? M m, it's just the AFC all right,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: So it's just off the top of our heads without
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: giving it a lot of fun. Who's better? Buffalo better
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: you think? Yes? Yes, okay, Cincinnati, yes, okay, Tennessee yes,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: Kansas City, yes, all right. Now we'll go to second
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: place teams. Miami no as of right now? Yes, no, no,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue top of your head. Were doing
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: We lost to them twice? Ye okay, Baltimore, yes, no,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: he's tough. Indianapolis right now? No? But Denver yes, yes, okay. Um,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: no one else is talking about the Chargers, Uh, Cleveland no, No,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: No one in the South no. Um the Chargers. Yes, okay.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: It's interesting you put the Charges ahead of them as
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: a non playoff because I know I got the teams
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: that have better talent than shut up. I shut up
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: you so seventh according to that. Now, I would put
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: them lower than that because I would have India ahead
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: of them, and I would have Baltimore ahead of them.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: I think Baltimore was eight and three in rolling and
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: they just lost the entire team. Yeah, I think they had.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: They have more talent from which they'll never return. Maybe
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: you're right, eight seven, eight nine, playoff cups. It's gonna
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: be tough. Yeah, it is, and this is of course,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: there are so many unknowns, not only with the Patriots,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: with other teams too, so it'll change very much in
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: the two weeks. And we all know Deuce hasn't more
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: like ten because he has Miami as well. That's right.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: Anthony from Delaware tends to look at things in a
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: negative way. Yeah, Anthony from Delaware, sorry for sending this
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: email early, but working the graveyard shift. Won't be up
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: for the live show. A few questions regarding Kaylee. Do
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: you guys remember what your thoughts on Josh was when
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: he first started calling plays. I was a casual football
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: fan back then, and I don't really remember having an
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: opinion either way. Yeah, I didn't know that much about him.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't really know anything. I mean, and I didn't
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: really have any concerns we were looking at There's a
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: huge reason I didn't have any concern already was here.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: You know, we were wondering where is John Carroll and
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: what is that all? Well, he also didn't get just wondering,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: you know, Tom Brady entering the prime of his career
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: about it. I got a quarterback who's won three titles.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: I think he can he can share the us Paul
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: that point, because you know, I remember what a grand
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: exit it was for Romeo Cornell and Charlie Weiss at
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: the same time. So it's and it wasn't didn't blink.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say it was a non story.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a non story. There was no panic in
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: the streets. Brad, would you agree it was Tom Brady? Yeah,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: and Belichick too. I mean at that point you were
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: just they hadn't lost the playoff game. I mean, they
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: were whatever it was. In addition to that, that OH
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: four team, I think historically is one of the most
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: underrated teams in terms of sheer talent. Yeah, I don't
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: think it gets its due among the greatest teams ever.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: That team was so good and obviously you're coming off
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: of that team, you're thinking, you're just gonna keep it rolling. Now,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: they had some adversity that hit. I think that was
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: the year. Wasn't that the year that Bruski had a
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: stroke coming back coming back from OH four? Right? It
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: was the it was early. It was like, well he
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: had a right. Yeah, so some thing's happened. Obviously that
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: affected the talent level of the O five team, But
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: they had just won three out of four. They had
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: a young nucleus. It wasn't just all old players. And
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: they had some old guys like McGinnis and Bruski and
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: and those kinds of guys, but they still had plenty
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: of guys like Seymour and Will Fork and guys that
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: were still in their prime. Yeah. I think people thought
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: they're just gonna keep this ball, and they did. I mean,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: they were still really good to know five, really good
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: to know six, not as good as they had should
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: have won the Super Bowl one. Then they yeah, they
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: should have the cops. And then they reloaded because they
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: realized I didn't win because I didn't have enough playmakers
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: on offense, and they went out and spent money got
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: them and came thirty seconds away from going nineteen, And
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: Anthony also says when is the next time we're supposed
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: to hear from Bill and will he put out a
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: statement before about the bflow thing so he can say
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: his favorite line. Yeah, I already discussed that draft. Yeah no, uh,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: I would imagine the annual meeting at the end of
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: this month. I also two more things we have not
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: talked about that yet. Yeah, two more things from Anthony.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: Would you take high Tower back as a hand in
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: the dirt linebacker if the money worked out for both sides,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: as a hand in the dirt line But does that
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: even mean no? No, no, I thought like an edge guy. No, no,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: I think definitely not. I think he would be like
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: Brian Cox in a one He'd be like a thumper
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: middle linebacker and and maybe comes off the field on
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: on Thirday. If money was no factor, I would take
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: him back as that. I would rather not. I would
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: rather just get young. I would rather see what these
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: guys could do. Absolutely, but I would take him back
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: in a in a cheap role that he was willing
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: to shill. And finally, when does the schedule come out?
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Eric U? And may now that the new h that's
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: the new annual tradition, not other anymore. After the he's
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: supposed to get upset, he's supposed to get irritated. Well,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: he has changed. So I believe Eric was showing personal girl,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you. Is is it your
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: diet that's changed you? No, just wait till you get older.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: You get older. Are you taking supplements? No? No, I
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: gotta I gotta go at that. Just wait till they
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: trade down in April on the draft. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: unto that personal girl, I don't know. I've never heard.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like five ten, I've never heard you say I
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: have to go on a diet before. Oh, I've said
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: it many acknowledges he heard, just doesn't want to do.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: I've acknowledged that I need to lose about thirty pounds
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: a hundred times. Never at the start of the pandemic
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: and I started running a little bit. Yeah yeah, you
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: started body and I wanted to work out, and my
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: mom called, so they went down. You should get that.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: You should get that tonal thing that's on TV. What's
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: that now? You like that vibrating thing like that old
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: I just worked out, I'm all right, and then I
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: would love to be able to lose weight without doing
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: anything and for all they had that contraption that you
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: go in and just your head pops out and it's
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: like it's it steems the fat off or something. It
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: really seems seen that one I saw it and today
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: for a qby advice guy, have you seen that? It's you.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: I think it's called QB cub I. I I think
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: it's this like it's like a foot pedal kind of thing.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: So you oh, you said at your dad they had
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: that for a while. Yeah, I've never seen that before though.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: But it's like you're working like you're but muscles in
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: your legs. Yeah. When I got it, it's like walking desks.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: I see people walking deaths on walking desk that I
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: would fall on my face. Remember when somebody had the
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: idea to have the desk with the treadmill, and friend
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna get that from my office. I
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: actually gotta. I actually got approval for that. I never
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: got it, trigger I never I never got I was like, no,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: I'll become like I'll become a caged animal. People will
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: be like walking by just just acting like an ass.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: They don't already do that, you know. I was like,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: let's go watch friend on his hamster over here. Yeah,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: I get in great shape, be a spectacle when you
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: walking by, and like friends like face planting on the floor,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: like blood coming out of my head. Uh. We haven't
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: heard from a while Wars and Camp Pendleton. Yeah rah,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: sorry a long time. Yeah. On that note, Uh, I
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: did during the holiday season think that I should call
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: in and offer you guys a lunch. And I looked
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: at the calendar. It's been three months, so I would
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: be happy to catch back up with Matt after Oh
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: you don't have yeah you don't. You don't have to
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: do that large pepperoni No, right after my diet. Yeah,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: I'll hold my breath for that one fall. Yeah, but um,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: good job. Uh, good question here for you guys. I
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: don't know if you were talking about Romeo and Charlie
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: much earlier than when I was just like hold but uh,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: that was something I wanted to talk about, just based
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: off of Fred's point on Tuesday, which I do agree
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: with him, and I uh, I guess my question is
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: have you thought about how happy you might have been
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: to get Romeo or Charlie back, say in nine or ten,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: even after unsuccessful stints. I think both of them were
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: well under five hundred head coaches, and then went back
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: to the coordinators elsewhere. Would you have liked to get
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: either of those guys back, Well, me, oh, sure, both
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: of them. I would have taken it back because I
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: think they were both wildly successful as coordinators, unlike the
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: guys that have come back this time. Okay, but what
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: if they don't come back as coordinators? Out these guys
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: aren't coming back as coordinators. I would welcome them back,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. I don't think Matt Patricia was
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: a good defensive coordinator, so I'm not all that excited
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: that he's back on the staff. I mean, it's pretty simple.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: This is my point about all of these discussions. And
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: from one of pause shows, I will take, you know,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: a Felgar point that you know, you have to do
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: the show every day. You can't just wait to see
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: how things turn out. But we have really limited information.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: But I think the one thing we do know is
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: that these two teams, the Giants and the Lions, and
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: actually I mean I actually include Mayo under this, all
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: three of these coaches, Judge, Patricia and Mayo I mean
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: candidates war head coaching jobs, and two of them won
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: those jobs. So I find it interesting that, like we
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: don't consider now, maybe those teams made awful mistakes obviously
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: their performance, but they had what it took to get
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: elevated to that level. And we all think, oh, we'd
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: love to get b Flow back, love to get Jimmy
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: Billy O'Brien back, And I just think it's it's a
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: little bit of like we do. We have a very
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: small slit in the information, and the first thing I
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: think is to take the most negative spin on it. Yeah. Now,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: to me, it's very simple and I don't have to
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: go on one of my soliloquies like I sometimes do.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: I think that Bill O'Brien was a really good assistant
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: coach and he did a really good job as a
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: head coach. I think Brian Flores was a really good
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator in eighteen and did a good job as
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: a head coach. I don't think the same thing of
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: Joe Judge and Matt Patricia. I think they were spare
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: parts on their staffs and they didn't have very good
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: defenses when Patricia was involved with them, and he didn't
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: do a good job when he was a head coach.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: I think Bill O'Brien did a good job both as
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator here and as the head coach at
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: both Penn State and with the Houston Texans, So I
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: would take him back. I would be more excited about
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: having those guys back. Charlie Weis and Romeo Cornell wildly
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: successful coordinators. But they weren't good at head coach. But
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: they were good coordinators. That's what they have over the
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: guys that are here now. Yeah, they were successful in
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: the roles that they left. Yeah, I don't I don't
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: know if I don't know if Patricia was as bad
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: as you say he was. Well, I think you look
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: at difference between seventeen and eighteen, it's pretty striking, you know.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: And like, was he a good coach even before he
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: was a coordinator? I mean maybe, you know, I don't
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: own I think even if he did. No matter how
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: you feel about those guys or how they did or
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: didn't do, neither of them have been an offensive like coach,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: you know, and they've done like positional But that's a
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: numbable army together. It's football, that's the thing. I know.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: It's football. That's and that And I'm with you on
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: on that. Point to a point, but it's also like,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: you gotta like, this is very important to the future
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: of the franchise, and I get it. I I probably
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: have more respect for those guys than some people do.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, you gotta put that get
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: back to our earlier email. If the offense takes a
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: visible step backwards, does that put un inspired? It's not,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: it's flat, it's they're not. Really there's never a point
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: even like last year on the hot seat. They were
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: rare last year, but you saw glimpses in like Cleveland
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: where it's like, man, they're cooking. Now, everything's kind of working.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: It didn't happen at the end of the season, but
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: you know that that's what has to happen. And regardless
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: of how you do or don't feel about how they
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: were when they were here previously, they've got to make
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: mac Jones and this offense better. They're they're getting back
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: most of the pieces that they had of a of
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: an average offense. That is what it is. But that's everything.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: I think More importantly, it's you know, what the team
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: is overall season that could put him on the hot
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: seat if they're you know, both sides of the ball floundering,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: not just on offense. Oh yeah, if they aren't a
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: playoff team, or if they're like you know, just significantly
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: worse off than they were this past year, I think
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: that that puts him in that and it's I think,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: and it'll mean I don't want to tie it to
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Bill's quote of you know, is that what we are
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: or is that just a bad night. I guess we'll
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: find out next year when we start playing. You're right,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: and that's and that's what it is. I think we
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: were lulled into. I mean, I don't think I would
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: say I had a false sense of security when they
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: reeled off those wins. I think you put in context
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: all of them, and they don't quite look like a
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: lot of times as a seven or eight game win
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: streak would look at the NFL um so who are they?
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: And that's and now you're pulling Josh out of that equation.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see. It's got to be better. Yeah,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: Paul writes in from the colony, what do you believe
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks justification was for trading Wilson? They had the
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: hardest component of a good team to fill under contract.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: Why could they not make it work. How much did
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: his salary have to do with it? He wanted out.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: It's pretty soon. It's the same thing really on a
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: different scale. With Brady, he wanted to leave, so they
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: accommodated him. I mean they tried to make it work
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: for another year. He wanted on last wanted. I was
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: gonna say that was last year's time. They tried to
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: make it work. I think they felt like they weren't
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: in a position that they were going to be able
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: to win with him, so they accommodated him. I think,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: I mean without I'm not this isn't you know, Seahawks unfiltered.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: But that's the way I look at it. From afar
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: is I think that they had some good they had
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: some good years. They bottomed out this year. I think
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: there there was some great stuff on Twitter over the weekend. Dues,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you caught any of this about
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: just how badly Seattle has drafted the last couple of years.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: So they've really failed to bring in players to help him,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: you know, beyond the receivers. I mean, he's got he's
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: got weapons to throw to, but their offensive line has
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: been a mess for a while. Their defense is completely deteriorated.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: Did you say something on Tuesday about um, their they've
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: got kind of arrogant with the way that they played defense?
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: Is that was that was pizza. That's why you were
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: hearing got you guys were talking. I think Fred heard it.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: I think Deuce was there for the press commence and
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: saw it. Was surprised. But so I think there was
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of different things at play with Seattle that
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: sort of point painted like Russell Wilson's kind of tired
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: of being a one man show. I think it's an
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: interesting kind of comparison to to the Patriots, because you've
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: got to I mean, you've got to coach even older
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: than Belichick. What is you know, what does Pete Carroll
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: want to do? Like how long does he want to
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: be there? Does he want to especially when you're talking
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: about your defense, your baby, like that's him, right, that's
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: that's like what he originated and he's saying you can't
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: really do it the same way. Is he ready to
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: become innovative and you know, find the next quarterback? It
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: was interesting that they've burned that up, Paul, because I
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: hadn't really seen as a similar kind of reaction to
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: how the Patriots draft. Until that point when I started
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: reading with Seattle, didn't like, Wow, this sounds exactly like
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: what the Patriots have said, you know, just they had
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: They've drafted guys over where they should have. They missed
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: stone picks, and it's a similar thing. And I just
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: think that's one of the big truths of the NFL.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: You miss on draft picks. You can only sustain it
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: so long unless you are really really good at free
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: agency and managing how much you give guys and targeting
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: guys and all that. Yeah. Uh, David and Bethlem Bethlehem,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: who's our resident etymologists. He says the barn burner origin
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: a contest so disputed that the vitriol exceeds normal bounds.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: Example is an old New York Dutch farmer who was
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: so determined to eradicate rats that he burned his barn down.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: Just build a new bar and then have to deal
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: with rats anymore. That's that's like Paul Liken't I can't
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: figure it out right? Um, let's see, Cody writes in
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: I was going to say one thing, just not a
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: major but but interesting. Nonetheless, the lines have informed Trey
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: Flowers that he will be released on the first day
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: of the twenty Now how old is he probably in
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: his late twenties. Yeah, he's in that. I wouldn't mind.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind either. I put him in the thing
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: I wrote yesterday of just former Patriots. That good. I
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: mean they need an edge guy. He's younger, a little bit,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a Definitely, you could get him
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: to say yes to anything, and sometimes in the same
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: interview somebody would make a different point on the same
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: topic and he would agree with that too. Twenty nine
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: in August twenty Yeah, I wouldn't. I mean, he was funny.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: He's coming. I mean, he might be looking to recoup
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: the money he's gonna lose by getting released. And if
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: that's the case, I don't know how much I want
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: to pay a twenty nine year old, but obviously a
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: guy who has familiarity with the way things are done here. Yeah,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: absolutely be interesting. Dyed that you Fred. I like to
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: get your opinions before they do or don't sign them. Yeah.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: I I like the player, but I need to see
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: the money, you know, always a condition, Yeah, always a
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: Condiolutely is there a player that you wouldn't care about
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: the money? Sure who Tom uh My homes any of
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: those elite quarterbacks. Is there any non quarterback that you
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: wouldn't care about the money? Uh? Aaron Donald, it's a
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: good one. Yeah, I mean there are some what's your
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: linebacker in Dallas that I'm not thinking, Cebo Samuel? Oh No,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: Layton vander Rush is the new one making the rounds now,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, of that, I don't care football player. I
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: don't care. Whatever he wants, whatever he wants whatever, well
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: within his position range. He's the highest paid wide receiver
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: in football. You would make him the highest paid receiver. Yeah,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: oh oh oh, I yeah, that's the that's the kind
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: of analysis I'm looking for. Kursh I love me some,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. No, I mean I I largely agree with you.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: And you have a player that you really like and covet.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: You should be willing to give him anything. Oh and
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: I think I heard on one of your shows, Paul that,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: oh I like it, but I don't want to give
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: him that much. McCaffrey be available, yeah him, would you
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: take him? I mean, if I could get him another
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not interested in running back at all. Somebody druly
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: the comparison at a period his wife or fiance or
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: something is Lupo, right, yes, yeah, Olivia cop I'm calling
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: her Lupo from now. I have a friend whose last
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: name is Lupa, Miss Rhode Island, Miss Universe, who used
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: to go out with Amendola. Yea, so she's from Cranston correct, Right,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: So then the time back to New England. Yeah, tie
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: the knot? Why do you run your eyes like, Eric,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: just you don't like it. You don't generally get done
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: because of the location of the girlfriend of the play.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: That's why he's rolling his eyes. Who, by the way,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: you used to go out with another member of the Patriots,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: So I'm sure there's a lot of staying power in
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: that relationship. Who is that? What do you know about her? Eric?
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: Is she? Yeah? I mean especially when she won the
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: excuse me, when she won the pageant, Ye got a
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: lot of attention. She has like a restaurant in the
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: state Lupo's. No, not Lupo's. There was a place called
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: Lupo's in downtown Province was like, yeah, but it's like
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: it used to be huge back in the day. It
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: was like a concert venue right and down the Providence Yeah,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: Lupo's Heartbreak Hotel Lupos. You remember who was a wolf Wolves?
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: You remember when Amad got caught on Instagram like going
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: off about put your phone down. Yeah, put your That's
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: what it was, put your phone down. Yeah. She went
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: to high school with my wife. We actually had promp
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: pictures together, like all in the limo. Oh really were you?
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: Were you sizing her? Wow? She can't say that, would you.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: We talked about it. Get out of here. Well, she's
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: going out with McCaffrey, right, good looking guy, Yeah, Christian
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey's a good looking dude. Danny, he's a good looking
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: guy too. I mean she's a Mendela is also good. Yea,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: she would see what she likes. I mean she has
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: miss Universe. You can kind of have her pick, right, Yeah,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: Burnand's finest. Is there any other famous small state I know,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: famous beautiful people people from beside you from I would
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: not qualify near nearly that much. Uh poly d oh
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: god from Jersey Shore. Yeah, he's from Johnston, that I with.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: I am disgusted with that, not not the fact that
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: he's from Johnston, just that the whole, that whole naking
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: Italians look bad and the Jersey Shore kind of thing.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: That was horrendous. I'd like to see. Plus I might
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: be related to him, resistantly, Yeah really yeah, wow famous roots. Yeah,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: who's related? I might be related. We have we have
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: we have my grandmire extra disgusted with that a little bit.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah my brother no, not my brother No, but his
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: last name is uh part of my family's lineage. So
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know that could be especially being in island. Yes,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: Oh is that really nap? Yeah? Is that? Alex? Stay
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: away from that, Eric, I didn't know Jersey Shore. We
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: have revel la is about Deuce with Ted Williams. How
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: Eric with Jersey Shore? God's with Lupo? Right, I guess
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: I got my bitches in her name. Um. I don't
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: think there's a person that I know that would be
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: less suited to be on the Jersey Shore than every obste.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: That's why it would be so wonderful. Now, he would
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: be the guy that lives next door to them, that like,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, come on, I'm trying to sleep. Hey, Hey,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: why don't you open the book? My cat has a cold.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to put her to sleep. Snoopy or snooky
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: or whatever the hell your name is He's like fur
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: Eric's like raking leaves and they're blowing their leaves over
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: on him, you know, mister Furley. Uh, Cody's in Nova Scotia.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: I was hoping to get an early take on Drake London.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: I feel he's one of the most overrated, hate the
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Drake overrated receivers in this class. Every play of his
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: that I see reminds me of to kill Harry, and
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: I'd like to ask, I'm conflicted. I'd like to ask
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: why Eric is so cynical. Is it because of all
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: the watching McCaul a teasing, the gotta get Me a
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: Woman's song? Or are you just naturally like that? Between
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: Eric and the Perpetual Wet Blanket that is Todd formerly
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: of Canada, I feel like I need to take away
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: my shoelaces at times. Wow, you and I avoided that. Yeah,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: it's that, But he says he petual Wet Blanket. I
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: thought for sure it was gonna be me. He says
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: he definitely likes the more assertive Eric. Since Andy's been gone,
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: big change people have been talking about it for years,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: big change and growth, personal growth and how you described
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: it earlier. For I used to go like hours without
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: speaking well because it's hard. Like when they would yell
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: at him, well, he would yell, but he was one
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: of those people where I couldn't get a word. You
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: can't get a word, and when he's arguing with you,
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: you know how it is, it's the only way is
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: to yell at the same time and then not into that.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: I'm more like you in that kind of thing. I
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: don't like arguing, Paul. We talked on the last show.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: Paul loves arguing for arguing sake. I hate it if
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: I have to, but I don't like it. His words
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: are like ten thousand little monkey fists pounding you over
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: the head, bah bah bah. You know he's like, he
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: does have an unfair way of arguing. Yeah, I want
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: to bang Eric is. He just won't let you even talk.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: It's right now because I've you know, I've hung out
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: with Andy enough. I've gone on AI with him a
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: few times, and I'm like, and I like him, and
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: but but I feel like he doesn't quite know me
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: yet to start attacking me like he attacks everybody else.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, and I'm like, it's okay, I don't mind.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: Like you still got you still got that kick got
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: so great A little bit he plays the time of
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: picture he does. Yeah, he definitely tries to run the
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: clock about it, but he's so face not like that
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: when like, like like when he comes up to visit
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: in the press box. Yeah, it's all like chummy, Hi,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: how you doing, like catching up on the family kind
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: of thing. As soon as there's a microphone or an audience,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: he turns into that andy where he has to be like,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: you know, overpowering bully. I think he's like that all
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, not all the time, I know. I
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: would just say to the first point in Drake Len
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: and I feel a kind of similar, Um, you know
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of contested catches. Um. I think that you know,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: he's like a captain, He's one of those kind of guys.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: I also felt like when I saw him an indie,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: he looks like he's got development to go. So I think,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: although you might not, you're you're probably not seeing the
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: finished package with him. I think that's probably why his
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: stock has kind of gone up, even if he's not,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: you know, one of those through the roof testers kind
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: of guys. I am sort of conflicted on him, and
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: I think everything might just said I would a thousand
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: percent agree with I think you see a ton of
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: contested catches. That's a red flag for me. Nikil Harry,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: Aaron Dobson. I mean, there's a lot of guys that
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: if you're not getting open consistently in college, I don't
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: know why you think you make the leap and you're
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: suddenly wide open all the time. He is a dynamic
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: athlete though, like you ever see some of those like
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: a basketball guy. Yeah, he means I'm conflicted on him.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: I could definitely see he was wildly productive, you know what,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: USC and their team completely fell apart and he got hurt.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: So I would also worry about, you know, the explosiveness
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: that he has when he comes back. It's a twenty
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: a cl for him too, right, I don't know. I
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: think it's a twenty ACL for him as well. So
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: there's some concerns there for a guy who's not always open.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe if he loses a fraction of a second off
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: his forty times, does that make him, you know, yeah,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: easily guardable. It was funny though. It came up on
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: Twitter last night at some point, but they they somebody
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: posted the immediate aftermath when they drafted Harry and they
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: were playing like the mel kiper you know when they
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: roll the highlights and they talk about the guy. And
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: he was the last pick of the night, so they
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: had a little extra time. And it was, you know,
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: funny watching it because first of all, I think it
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: was a good reminder of that we're hyping up all
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: these guys and all you know, anybody who's a first rumpet,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: Oh he's gonna be. He's gonna be. It doesn't always
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: work out, but fractured right ankle, but cantet the same thing.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: It's the same Harry. You see now it's it's everything's
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: kind of tight. He's diving out and you know what
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: makes his catch lay out? How many plays are there
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: where he just makes it quick. Mike thinks about Drake Lendon.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: Everything Mike says about him, I think that's the scouting report,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: that's what you've seen. But he's boyish, you know, like
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: you just get that sense like he's not even close
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: to where he'll be. So I just is he the
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: kind of player that the Patriots could use. It's probably
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: not quite that. I think it's more for me again.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson A love those quick guys that can do
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: a bunch of things. You can move them around. It's
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: not all right, just run on the field. We're gonna
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: throw it up he and jump over the guy and catches.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't happen in the NFL like it does
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: in college. Yeah. I just like the idea that Mike
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: is talking about with like a dynamic player, not just
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: a little slot guy that can average nine point eight
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: yards per catch. You know there's value to that, don't
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: get me wrong, But I want you, guys. I want
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: a playmaker, someone who could be something different than what
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: they already have. Word shake, guys, get open. You know.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: It's like Debo. I mean, they just not to say
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: that he needs to do everything the Debo does, but
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: it's just a skill set that can do a bunch
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: of different things. And as he evolves, you know. And
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: Perry post actually a couple of things I wanted to
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: bring about Phil Perry um. But with Phil Perry, no, no,
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: I just some interesting points he brought up. That's that's
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: what it felt bad for for what Vrabel did to
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: him and India. It was it was it was pretty funny.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: He got He walked right into uh into getting rabeled,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: but oh, I just totally figure out point. That's what
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: I do. But but I remember my first one was
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: that he brought up in one of his things talking
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: about jac Jackson, which is a point that that I've
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: said a couple of times is people around the league
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: think it's going to be so hard for the Patriots
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: to find man corners now, and could that signal a
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: shift and maybe they get away from that, maybe they
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: focus more on the front seven and they get zone
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: guys who were tough, and what they did last year
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: anyway kinda. I mean, I guess it was inadvertent. I mean,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: I think if you had JC and Jonathan Jones, you've
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: got a couple of guys. An they switched the zone
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: because they had to, but they didn't necessarily have zone guys.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: But how do they feel about that? Were they forced
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: into it? Did they? Jalen Mills is the reason they
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: switched to zone once once you had no chance of
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: Gilmore coming back, and and then Jonathan Jones goes out,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: So Jalen Mills plays a major role, and I think
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: that's why they went to his own. Again, I'm not
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: a coach that could be one hundred percent wrong. But
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: I saw a line of demarcation there Dallas game. Yeah yeah, Pat,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden things changed. And I think
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: it's because they didn't think they had the personnel to
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: play man. Well, that's that's for sure. I remember my
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: other thing about Phil um his thing today was that,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: in speaking of people in any they thought the Patriots
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: offense was easy to defend because there wasn't those kind
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: of guys that could be moved around, like, oh crap,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: what are we gonna do if they got him outside?
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: How are we going to defend that? You know that
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: there's not really any that you knew what was gonna be.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be you know, aglare on the outside and
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: born and and Myers kind of work in the middle. Henry,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: speaking of Phil Perry, Pat and Agulon, writes in listen
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: to his podcast recently, I think Phil Perry and he
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: was talking about who the team should nominate as the
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: emotional leader once Slater retires this offseason or sometime in
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: the near future. His nominee was Kendrick Bourne. I love
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: this idea of KB has quickly become one of my
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: favorite Patriots. As the team is currently constructed he exudes
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: great vibes and positive energy. He'd be great in that
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: role in my opinion, and put me in the camp
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: to trade Harry for Andy Isabella. Harry's coming in that
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: camp too. By Harry's probably gone on or around camp
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: time more than likely sooner than that. Let Isabella come
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: in and compete for a roster spot in camp. And
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: who knows, maybe you catch lightning in a bottle and
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: the kid can fit in this offense. Plus I heard
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: on some show that he's a good returner. I would
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: absolutely be in favor of that, you know, one of
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: those typical my trash for your trash kind of deals.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: I would think it makes all the all the sense
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: in the world. He can run, Isabella can run. Yeah,
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: it's fast. You mentioned ACL and did I hear that,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: Like it's now determined that the artificial turf has caused
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: more acls than grass did, and like there's a big
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: movement to get back to grass. Yeah, the data shows
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: that more injuries happen on yeah, the fake stuff. Yeah,
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: And there was some talk during the regular season. I
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: think that the NFL is encouraging teams to go back
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: to grass as much as possible, Right, So, well, would
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: you be if your favor like if the NFL did
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: what FIFA does and say you must play on grass,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: would you be okay if that that was the case,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: I would be okay. I don't Yeah, that's it's it's
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: the money off of I don't play on the field field.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: How do you tell Robert Kraft all right, well, now
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: you can't do those summer concerts, you can't have football.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: But what what if they would they have to in
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: a case like like here where we don't have the
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: rollout you know field, would they have to do what
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: FIFA does when they play a match here, which is
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: bringing bring your own grass, bring your own grass, put
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: the new sod like every week. Would you have to
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: do that? That would be a fortune. Yeah, But if
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: the NFL's making you do it, because like if you
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: have a concert venue, you've got like maybe you've got
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: like your your concrete like base. Yeah, and then okay,
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: we know like usually after August there's really not a
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: lot of concerts that go on, you know, that's not
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: really concert season generally ends about that time. So at
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: that point you put the grass in and you're pretty
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: safe at that point, but you have to keep maintaining
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: it now for the rest of this or they could
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: figure out how to make artificial turf that's safer, Yeah,
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: because they've had different generations they have. Yeah, but I
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: think kind of as close to the grass as you
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: can get, and I think it's still dangerous. So weird.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just havn't walked like you know,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: occasionally you walk on that. I don't know how how
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: it just feels so. I mean, I'm sure you get
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: used to it to an extent, but every time I
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: walk on it, I'm like, I can't imagine. I know,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: it's running and cutting. It's a little slippery too, Even
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: when it's not wet, it feels slippery. I don't get it.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: I like, I've always liked the grass better. I mean, oh,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: I'm old school traditional that way, but I just I
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: like fields that are grass, you know. I like the
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: look of it, the smell of it. Yeah. See, I
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: like grass fields, but when they're torn up and dirty,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: right when they know, when they're in places that class
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: you know, you can have it like car parks. I'll
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: give you an example, Hinesfield. I don't want to play
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: there after Like the middle of October. It's done right,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: like like to me, that's a that's a venue that
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: it doesn't hold up well. All right, So I don't
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: want to play on grass if it's not good, right,
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: But you know, I understand it's safer and if they
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: went to that for the safety of the players, I
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: think that would be a good move. Joe from Western Australia.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: Thanks for your excellent work. I'm a traditional podcast listener
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: and I never missed your show, enjoying the offseason as
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: much as ever. Thanks for carrying me through the year.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: You are champs. The other day you had a flashback
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: to Eric talking about going into the cashier to pay
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: for gas, but they call it petrol in Australia. He
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: lives in the wrong country over here. It's the opposite
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: to what you seem to describe Fred. The vast majority
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: do not pay at the pump. Nearly everyone goes in
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: and pays inside. I'm not sure why. That's just what
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: we do. Maybe we like the human contact. Maybe it's
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: the good weather and so we don't mind the oh
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: so long walk that it takes to go in. I'm
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: not sure, but that's what we do. Oh, I think,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: I think I have a reason. Why is there south
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: of the equator everything's reversed. Well, you took it out.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: You stepped on my joke. Sorry. When it's busy, we
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: will literally cue that. We will literally literally queue in
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: the shop waiting to pay, even though the facility is
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: right there to pay it the pump. So they have
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: the choice. Yeah, but they choose to go in. That's
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: it's just weird to go chat with the guy inside.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: How's it going? Yeah, scratchers, But he said, in honor
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: of you, Fred, I tried to pay it the pump
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: the other day. It felt strange and very wrong. It's
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: just wrong, fred Is it right? They say about which McCall,
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: it's too and they're wrong. No, did I tell you
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: I tried there? No? Is it any better than saw dust?
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: It's more peanut butter. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Yeah.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: I gotta give it credit that they did a good
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: job of it. I mean, I still have a you know,
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: soft spot for the original, but I would not toss
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: a hoosi what's it out of bed? I just don't
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: know why that had to come up with an alternate
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: version of a name of a name you can't remember, right,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: and plus your name was the better one. I thought,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: what what what the is this? They're supposed to be
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: swearing on you? You know you casually just toss about
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: your your blue language. Ah, let's see a lot of
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of emails about like what free agent you'd
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: want to bring in? And you know, I don't know
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: if you dot com any you know, yes, you know,
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: I feel like Mike and we have worked very hard
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: on our free agent forecast. Go and read me your
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: top three agents that you would want the Patriots to
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: bring in any position. Neil corn Rich. Ye, he's an
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: Andrew Gimember. My top three agents I should want to
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: be I thought, I said free agents. No, I'm sure
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: you did. I mean, I just not to cop out,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: but I'd start with the interior, the guy, the internal guys.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: I would start with those few guys. I don't know.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like I have no I feel like I
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: have no bead on this year of what they're gonna do.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: I really not that I ever think I do. Maybe
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: I maybe I have fault. Problem is they don't have
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: the money to do the things i'd want them to do.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I really don't want to My
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: top three agents they wouldn't be able to afford. Wait
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: a minute, now, you didn't listen to Paul's rant at
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: the top of the show. You're saying that they don't
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: have the money, and Paul says that's not yeah, no,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: I no, no, no, he didn't say that. I said
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: the opposite. What are you saying? People are talking about
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: cap space, right, cap spaces can be manipulated, as Bill says, right,
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: So how do you know they don't have the money?
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: The money is because they just spent two hundred million
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: like everybody's got a price. Fred, I'm sorry, Like, I
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: don't care who you are. You can't just go free
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: agent hog wild every year like that makes sense to
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: me that the pages probably be a little bit more
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: conservative this year, tossing around the signing bonuses after what
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: they did last year. There's only so I mean, can
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: can they do it? Does Ert Kraft actually have the money? Yeah?
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: I think he does. I think it's unlikely that they
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: go out and spend another couple one hundred million on
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: a dozen free agents. I put trey flowers near the top.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: I would put Trey flowers there. I mean, I want
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: a receiver. DJ Chark is a guy that I kind
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: of like. Don't you think McCaffrey would do well with
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: with mac Jones? No, no, yes, but he definitely would.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: He's really Yeah, I think McCaffrey would make you guys
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: talk you know, this Matt Jones thing. I don't know know,
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: but Christian McCaffrey is a great No, but you guys
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: talk about you know, we want a playmaker. Yeah, he's
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: a playmaker. Yeah, for three games, he's a playmaker. Oh
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: that's what he does. So you think he not every
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: year he gets injured. Boy, don't make me do it
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: holding his phone menacingly, I have the power up. Okay,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: let's see how many How don't we get Quon Barkley too, No,
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: but let's see how many games a kind of guy
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: dynamic heard all the time. Yeah, McCaffrey does. Yet injured
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: quite a bit, and well he had he has recently.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Let's see over his career. Let's see, Paul
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: bring it up. Do we know where girlfriends? She's from? Cranston?
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: I believe the last two years. Okay, play three games
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and seven and twenty twenty Okay, what
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: about before that? He played before that? The last two
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: years he's missed. Okay, he's had a bad run, but
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: before that, he Oh you know what usually happens. You
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: usually get more durable after you missed times. I'm serious, Paul,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: I am too. He's missed a lot of games last
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: last two years. Yes, his first three years when he
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: was young and spry, he was healthy. Okay, when you
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: start getting the ball one hundred times a year, you
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: get hurt. You wouldn't do that to him here, Well,
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: then I don't want him. If he's not going to
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: be a guy who's gonna get one hundred touches, well
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna do what Carolina did with him. So
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: you make him that the upgraded version of James White.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: Well maybe a little bit more than that. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: I don't want him getting James White touches with that
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: track record injury wise. This is my pointing exactly. He
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: won't hold up. I don't know about that. I can
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: understand the great player frustration though, because the talent, he's
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: kind of their marquee guy, right, and he can't get
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: on the field. I mean, so much of the art
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: offense went through his, Everything went through him. You go
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: into the year and you talk about this is our
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: guy and he gets hurt and you're like, whoa. Every
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: year it's you know with Henry, right, although I mean
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: if he's durable, yeah, yeah, except for last time, right,
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: that's once. So is he gonna get better because you
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: don't get better? Paul? Let me ask you something. Do
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: you think he'll get hurt into the show took? Do
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: you think he'll get hurt this year? I don't know.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: I do her. Yeah, I think the chances are when
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: you play sixteen sixteen sixteen, then you get hurt, chances
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: are you gonna keep getting hurt? Okay, So I would
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: say yes, they should move on from that. Wow, Wow,
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: I'll take him. Go ahead, y'all know I would take him,
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: but not on the face in the biblical sense. All Right,
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. Everybody,
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: have a good week again. We'll see you next Tuesday.
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