Latest / Adventist Podcast Network / Adventist Music - Psalms 119 & Memorizing Scripture Through Song — Lady Abigail Imperio
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- 0:00I wanted to memorize texts, like scripture texts,
- 0:02and I believe in the power of music. So I just
- 0:05kind of like pulled these things together and
- 0:07said, well, I wanted to memorize my Bible verses
- 0:12and I can put some music to it. So now I actually
- 0:15could say that I've memorized fairly a large
- 0:19amount of texts from Psalms 119 because of practicing
- 0:22and recording and writing and producing. Hey,
- 0:30welcome to the Adventist music podcast This is
- 0:33the show that talks about the stories of Adventist
- 0:35musicians one song story at a time I'm your host
- 0:39Khan and on today's show. We are talking with
- 0:42I am talking with Lady lady is a musician that
- 0:47has got a lot of experience in teaching So we're
- 0:51going to be exploring some of her tracks that
- 0:53she has made so stick around for that Welcome
- 0:57to the show lady Thank you, Ken, for having me.
- 1:03It's a blessing to be here. Yeah, it's a blessing
- 1:06for me to have you on. So thank you so much for
- 1:08joining. So why don't we just jump right into
- 1:10it, lady? Okay. Can you tell us a time where
- 1:13you felt inspired to be a musician? Wow, that
- 1:17was a long time ago. I think it started when
- 1:20I was a little kid, about eight or nine years
- 1:24old. But before that, my family's always been
- 1:28exposed to music. My dad's a pastor, so we sing
- 1:30a lot in different churches. So I've always been
- 1:34singing as a kid. I think the first time, though,
- 1:39that I really been, you know, I felt that you
- 1:42know, music is something that I want to pursue.
- 1:46It was an accident, actually. I had like a literal
- 1:49accident. I fell from a swing and I broke my
- 1:52arm. So my two bones here, my radius and ulna
- 1:57was broken. And so I was in a cast for about
- 2:02a month. And I remember Oh no. Yeah, I was singing
- 2:07for a church worship, our worship, and I was
- 2:11in a cast. And I started crying after that because
- 2:15I saw all these people in a church with two arms
- 2:19and I was like, I don't have two arms. And after
- 2:23that, I told my dad, dad, please. asked God to
- 2:27heal me because if he heals me, I'm going to
- 2:30dedicate my hand to him my whole life. And after
- 2:33a month, he enrolled me in piano lesson. It's
- 2:36just God's providence too because we couldn't
- 2:39afford piano lessons during that time. But a
- 2:42family friend from California. Her name is Corazon
- 2:47Ku and she's a musician too. So she was the one
- 2:50who sponsored me all throughout my elementary
- 2:52years for piano. And then her son, Jonathan Ku,
- 2:58became my professor in college. And he took me
- 3:02in as a student, as a scholar. So that's all
- 3:07God's providence. But yeah, it's... one event
- 3:10after another, but I think that event of an accident
- 3:14was probably what I would say the point where
- 3:18I decided like, you know, I need to do something
- 3:21with my hands because when I'm healed, I'm going
- 3:24to give it to God. So yeah, that's the story.
- 3:29Nice, nice. That's really cool. So tell us more
- 3:32about your music. Where can people listen to
- 3:34your music? Well, right now I'm starting to,
- 3:38you know, get into composing and writing music
- 3:42and I'm just starting to put it out in YouTube.
- 3:46They can listen to it in my Instagram page, Musical
- 3:49Devotions, but they could just find me in my
- 3:54YouTube channel, Lady Abigail Imperio and...
- 3:57I post my songs there one at a time. Yeah. Nice.
- 4:02I want to go back a bit with you to that time
- 4:04where you had that accident and you started singing
- 4:10in church and things. How did that impact your
- 4:14life and who were the people who inspired you?
- 4:17Yeah. Well, prior to that, this was in Northern
- 4:20Luzon, Adventist College in Pangasinan. It's
- 4:23Northern Philippines. There is a lady who plays
- 4:26the piano in church and I've always admired her.
- 4:29I was like, oh, I wanted to be that person who
- 4:32plays the piano in church. So I think that's
- 4:35one of my earliest role models. My parents don't
- 4:39play piano. My dad is a guitar player. I actually
- 4:42learned guitar first, and then I learned the
- 4:44ukulele and then piano. But I think she was my
- 4:50first role model. We don't have classical music
- 4:53at home. We've always just been singing. We even
- 4:57don't have a piano at home. There's like no classical
- 5:02background whatsoever. I even had to beg my mom
- 5:06to buy me a piano for like years, like seven
- 5:09years. And during family worship, that was the
- 5:12first thing I wanted, like a piano. But definitely...
- 5:18people who really just supported me. My piano
- 5:22teacher, my first classical piano teacher, I
- 5:24was under Suzuki method. She just took me in
- 5:28and she was like, you know, I see a potential
- 5:31in her. I'm gonna take her as my student. If
- 5:34you are willing, told my mom, my mom doesn't
- 5:36have any idea what classical music is, what piano
- 5:40learning is. But she was like, you know, I see
- 5:43a potential in her. And I would just like, teach
- 5:48her. And then, of course, my sponsor from California,
- 5:53she's also a musician. She very well known in
- 5:57the Adventist music in the Philippines. And she
- 6:01continued my education. So I look up to her too,
- 6:04because everybody knows her. So yeah, those are
- 6:07the people in my life that I would say that really
- 6:10inspired me. Yeah, yeah. So you grew up in Pangasin
- 6:15over in the Philippines and then you're now in
- 6:19the United States. How did you end up studying
- 6:21in South Carolina? Because I understand you got
- 6:23a doctor of musical arts from the University
- 6:27of South Carolina. Can you explain how that transition
- 6:30took place? Yeah, that's a very interesting and
- 6:35a blessed journey, I would say a long journey.
- 6:39When I was studying in the Philippines at Adventist
- 6:44University of the Philippines, I actually wanted
- 6:47to take psychology. Like that was my first choice.
- 6:50I wanted to be a psychologist. But we went, my
- 6:52mom and I went to the psychology department and
- 6:56of all things that would close, it was the psychology
- 7:00that was closed. So we're like, oh, well. let's
- 7:04try music just to see. I don't even know what
- 7:07the audition is like. So we went there and the
- 7:10dean during that time, Mamron Killio, she was
- 7:14like, oh, play something. And I don't have any
- 7:16classical pieces ready. I just played like a
- 7:18church piece, my tribute. And I didn't know that
- 7:21it wasn't accepted. Like, oh, no, that's not
- 7:24accepted as an edition piece. But, you know,
- 7:27we can take the exam, like the written exam.
- 7:30And I didn't know anything about exams, too.
- 7:33So But I got in and I was like, okay, maybe this
- 7:38is God's way of telling me that I could be a
- 7:42musician, but I also love music already. And
- 7:45then during my college years, Jonathan Kuh, he
- 7:50was my piano professor. He was actually the one
- 7:53that prepared me to audition from day one, from
- 7:57my first piano lesson with him in my freshman
- 7:59year. He was like, we're gonna audition and we're
- 8:02gonna prepare for you to study abroad for your
- 8:05masters. And I also had an auntie who studied
- 8:10at Andrews University. And I look up to her and
- 8:14I was like, I wanted to study at Andrews University
- 8:16too. um her name is irene gavis i don't know
- 8:19if you know her she took organ yeah she took
- 8:23organ yeah she's him for worship yes yeah so
- 8:26when i was in high school like you know i always
- 8:29look up to her and i say well if she can go to
- 8:32andrew's i would pray to god and i would you
- 8:35know pray a lot so that i could go there too
- 8:37um yeah and i kind of just you know like did
- 8:43what ever pieces my teacher told me he would
- 8:47give me this really weird 20th century pieces
- 8:50really complex prokofiev pieces and i don't understand
- 8:54but eventually that helped me to get into the
- 8:59program because they're looking for you know
- 9:02like newer pieces or it sounds complex or whatever
- 9:07but um the Dean or no, the conductor from Andrews
- 9:15University Orchestra went to the Philippines
- 9:18in General Santos that was in Mindanao and I
- 9:23was working during that time at Central Philippine
- 9:27Adventist College and I met him and I told him
- 9:31my interest in studying at Andrews and he said,
- 9:35oh yeah, just send your resume, your audition
- 9:37and by that time I already had like my audition
- 9:40recital tape. because my teacher prepared me
- 9:43to do like a recital CD. So yeah, just submit
- 9:47it, just submit your requirements. And I'm going
- 9:50to put in a good word for you because I worked
- 9:52with him in a music camp. I was teaching the
- 9:55kids how to play recorder and choir. And I worked
- 9:59alongside with him because he was teaching the
- 10:01orchestra and the choir. So yeah, it was again,
- 10:06I think God putting me with people who would
- 10:11eventually helped me to get into Andrews. And
- 10:15I think it started there. And from then on, it
- 10:19was one event after another where sometimes I
- 10:22would feel like, oh, this is the end. I'm going
- 10:24to give up. I'm going to go home. But then God
- 10:27will impress me to stay and just continue one
- 10:31step at a time. It must've been hard, yeah, because
- 10:35you're very far from home. Yeah. I also spent
- 10:39some time in the United States studying. I got
- 10:41a degree from Heartland College. And yeah, many
- 10:45times we feel like when you're in that process,
- 10:48like, oh, I could just give up right now and
- 10:49go home. Yeah, a lot of times I think my faith
- 10:54was really tested all these years. first of all,
- 10:59Providence, like financial, where do I get the
- 11:02money to pay for my tuition fee? It's always
- 11:05a question. And as an international student,
- 11:07we couldn't get loans or all these things that
- 11:10American citizens have. So I would need to rely
- 11:14on scholarships and assistantships and teaching
- 11:17assistantships and working for Sunday churches
- 11:20or having gigs, you know, to play for this event
- 11:25or to accompany. students in school, so all the
- 11:29different gigs that you need to pull together.
- 11:32And definitely I could say that, you know, God
- 11:35has helped me through all those things. That's
- 11:39really nice. I really want to talk with you some
- 11:41more about one of your new songs on the podcast.
- 11:45Like you said before, you have a YouTube channel
- 11:47and you are releasing music on the regular, your
- 11:51singles, right? And one of the songs that I really
- 11:56liked was called How Can a Young Man Cleanse
- 11:59His Way. Would you like to tell us a bit about
- 12:03that song? Take us back to the time when you
- 12:05started to write the song. Yeah. Well, this was
- 12:09during the time that I just graduated from my
- 12:13doctorate. This is probably two years ago. So,
- 12:16you know, I was in that time of my life where
- 12:18I was like, what next? Was it boredom? Was it
- 12:24like, I don't know what I'm doing with my time
- 12:26because now I'm working as a full -time teacher
- 12:30and my hours are in the afternoon because it's
- 12:33after school hours. And in the morning, I would
- 12:36just be like, what am I going to do with my time?
- 12:40But I've always liked I've always had this thought
- 12:44maybe three to four years ago that I really wanted
- 12:48to make scripture songs. That has always been
- 12:51my passion because I think the first scripture
- 12:54song that I wrote was when I was like nine years
- 12:56old. I wrote a song from Jeremiah 29, 11. And
- 13:02then once in a while I would write scripture
- 13:04songs. That was also the time when I was really
- 13:08wanting to know God in a deeper, meaningful way,
- 13:12in my own creative way. Because sometimes, you
- 13:15know, as artists, as musicians, sometimes getting
- 13:19into the word or like language texts sometimes
- 13:23would like make me distracted or like I couldn't
- 13:28really connect to it. But once I put music, then
- 13:32boom that's there's a connection um i remember
- 13:36my exam in my comps i couldn't memorize anything
- 13:40i couldn't memorize so what i did i took out
- 13:42my flashcards and wrote like put tunes in that
- 13:46like even him tunes and. During the exam, I would
- 13:50be humming the tunes in my head while writing.
- 13:54So I wanted to write. I wanted to memorize texts
- 14:00like scripture texts, and I believe in the power
- 14:03of music. So I just kind of like pull these things
- 14:06together and said, well, I wanted to memorize
- 14:09my Bible verses and I can put some music to it.
- 14:14So now I actually could say that I've memorized
- 14:17fairly a large amount of texts from Psalms 119
- 14:21because of practicing and recording and writing
- 14:24and producing. So, yeah. Yeah, that was during
- 14:31that time when I was just... wanting to know
- 14:34what God wants me to do with my with my life.
- 14:36And I've always been like, you know, performing
- 14:40music, teaching music. But there's more to my
- 14:46training that I could express better. And composition
- 14:50is not my major. Like I haven't had any composition
- 14:55classes except for one in my undergrad at AUP.
- 15:00And But I've always, um, you know, like kind
- 15:05of pulled my knowledge in piano and voice. In
- 15:09fact, I think this whole Sam 119, um, songs is
- 15:15more pianistic and the piano part is harder than
- 15:18the vocal part. Right. So, so from what I understand,
- 15:22um, your doctorate is mainly in performing arts.
- 15:26It's in piano pedagogy. So mostly in teaching.
- 15:29Oh, I see. Okay. Most in teaching, right? Yeah.
- 15:33So you've used your skills still, and I guess
- 15:36your understanding of the piano sounds like the
- 15:38arrangement was quite a bit of work for you.
- 15:41Can you take us through that process? Yeah, so
- 15:44the process is because I'm not a composition
- 15:48major and I don't have any experience with composition
- 15:51is actually like a learning process for me too.
- 15:54It's like a hit or miss. It's also trial and
- 15:58error. So I finished all the songs, all the 22
- 16:02songs probably like last year and I'm starting
- 16:06to produce this year. But the composition process
- 16:09last year is fairly simple. I would take out
- 16:12my my phone with a voice recorder, and I would
- 16:16just, you know, take out my Bible, and this is
- 16:19the Bible that I use, and I would just go through
- 16:22the new King James version, and I would hum tunes,
- 16:25I would try it out. I was like, oh, it doesn't
- 16:27sound that good. Sometimes I would sit on the
- 16:30piano and hum some tunes and record it. And then
- 16:33after that, like if I'm happy with what it...
- 16:38what it is, probably like 30 minutes or like
- 16:42an hour, I would try out some of those things.
- 16:45I would go to a coffee shop and notate it because
- 16:48I like working outside. So I would notate the
- 16:53songs, which is numbers, actually just the melody.
- 16:56So, for example, one, two, three, two, one. And
- 17:00the tune is that. So I would write. with numbers.
- 17:03And then I would write it in like a staff paper.
- 17:08I was very old fashioned. Then I learned about
- 17:12Sybilus because I said there's probably a way
- 17:15to make this faster. So I downloaded Sybilus
- 17:19and just bought some how to learn the technologies.
- 17:23I bought like pads like this and then my mouse.
- 17:27I learned how to connect it with my computer
- 17:30so it's faster. That's probably the longest learning
- 17:34curve or the hardest learning curve. It took
- 17:36me probably like a week or two to figure that
- 17:39out. And then I learned Logic Pro. So sometimes
- 17:44now I was recording Logic Pro and then listen
- 17:48to it and then transcribe it. Do you have like
- 17:52a MIDI keyboard that you use to link up to my
- 17:55logic? Yeah. And I also had to learn how to connect
- 17:57all those things, the cables, um, watch YouTube
- 18:01videos. Um, that was like the hurdle. I was like,
- 18:04oh, this is, this is so hard, but I really wanted
- 18:07to print this because I want to share this to
- 18:10musicians and pianists and vocalists, you know.
- 18:15That's awesome. Good for you. I'm so happy to
- 18:17hear that and it sounds like a good learning
- 18:19process for you and the composition of the song.
- 18:24Yeah. And that's only the writing part because
- 18:27the recording part also is... a lot of learning
- 18:31because I had to learn microphone, what microphone
- 18:34to use, the H6 Zoom, what audio interface. I
- 18:40don't even know what that word means before,
- 18:42but I had to learn that. Yeah, I would love for
- 18:49our listeners when and had it had a listen to
- 18:52your tracks Be inspired by these compositions
- 18:56that you have made what message and feeling would
- 18:59you like them to get from the song? Honestly,
- 19:03um, you know music is very subjective When you
- 19:07listen to music I couldn't dictate What you should
- 19:11feel but the message that I wanted to put to
- 19:16you know, in part is the beauty of God's Word.
- 19:20That's probably just the main message because
- 19:22I wanted to portray the nuances, the expression,
- 19:28the pathos and the power of God's Word. The Psalms
- 19:32is beautiful poetry and beautiful rhythm. I think
- 19:35it's my favorite book in the Bible. Maybe as
- 19:38an artist and as a musician, we can relate that
- 19:41when I read, you know, when you read to it, David
- 19:44uses a lot of metaphors. David uses a lot of
- 19:47pictures. So I wanted to impart a message that
- 19:53every scripture is inspired by God and it can
- 19:56speak to any profession, whether you're a musician
- 20:01or whether you are a scientist or a doctor or
- 20:05a nurse or an engineer. So with this particular
- 20:09work though, my target audience are like, you
- 20:12know, musicians, vocalists, soloists, pianists,
- 20:16because some of the songs are actually technically
- 20:19harder in piano. Even me, I had to practice it.
- 20:22I was like, this is hard. But for musicians,
- 20:27I want a message, like a challenge to integrate
- 20:31music in their study of the scriptures. Because
- 20:34as a musician, sometimes I find it hard to focus
- 20:37on the words or if there's a long sermon, it's
- 20:40easy to get lost. But with music, you can probably
- 20:43get a connection with your emotion because it
- 20:45touches our brain in that way. I'm going to ask
- 20:49you some rapid fire Christians now in the last
- 20:53part of our episode as we're wrapping up for
- 20:55today. All right. So first of all, who is your
- 20:59favorite Bible character apart from Jesus? David.
- 21:03David, why? He's a musician and he was called
- 21:07a man after God's own heart because he has committed
- 21:12a great sin, but he's also very repentant and
- 21:15humble to accept his mistakes. And what's your
- 21:20favorite potluck dish? You know what? Definitely
- 21:23not haystack. I don't like haystacks. Oh, you
- 21:28poor thing. But I think anything with tofu. Okay,
- 21:32good choice, good choice. You got lots to select
- 21:35from there. Yeah. If you could choose one Ellen
- 21:40White book to read, your favorite, what would
- 21:43it be? Desire of Ages. Desire of Ages. Why would
- 21:49it be Desire of Ages? I've read it maybe twice
- 21:52or three times and every time, you know, I'm
- 21:56really touched, especially with the last scenes
- 21:59of Jesus' life. But also just the way that Alan
- 22:03White portrays the beginning of Jesus' life.
- 22:06And it's so vivid to me and it makes me want
- 22:10to read the Gospels more and to just be closer
- 22:14to reading God's word more whenever I read it.
- 22:19So next question. Sabbath afternoon activity.
- 22:22What is your favorite Sabbath afternoon activity?
- 22:25Ooh, that's a lot. It changes from Sabbath to
- 22:30Sabbath. Some Sabbaths I like to hike and kayak.
- 22:34Some Sabbaths I like to sit in my room and make
- 22:37some scripture songs. And some Sabbaths I like
- 22:39to hang out with some of the church members and
- 22:44my friends in church. Yeah. Awesome. Are you
- 22:47an early bird or a night owl? Early bird. Yeah,
- 22:51I wake up today. I woke up at like maybe five
- 22:54sometimes, but usually I would wake up at six.
- 22:57In the morning, what's the first thing you have?
- 22:59Tea, coffee, Milo or water? Tea. I was going
- 23:06to say water, but that would be lying. Ideally,
- 23:11you should be water, but tea. Okay, okay. You
- 23:15like to sip tea while you read the Bible or something?
- 23:18Yes, I like roast tea. Yeah, I'm actually okay.
- 23:23So this is a fact, fun fact about me. I'm a tea
- 23:27connoisseur. You call that like, you know, like
- 23:30you're really passionate about tea. I am very
- 23:33passionate about tea, roast tea, jasmine. I even
- 23:36have like a list of tea that I wanted to take
- 23:38in the morning so that I don't forget to take
- 23:41some of those teas. that I buy. Oh, wow. And
- 23:44I buy from farmers markets, from my travels and
- 23:49from online. Yeah. Wow, that's awesome. So it
- 23:54sounds like you had like a schedule, like Monday,
- 23:56you're having this too. Yeah, yeah. Wow. You
- 24:00really are a tico. So that is interesting. OK,
- 24:05here is another question for you. What is a hidden
- 24:09talent that no one knows about you? Ooh, I'm
- 24:14an open book. Um, I don't know if this is a talent.
- 24:19I can camp alone. I don't know. Is that a talent
- 24:23or is it just... I guess so. Not many ladies
- 24:28can do that, right? I can do like wilderness
- 24:31camp, like primitive camp. Where did you learn
- 24:34that from? Who taught you how to do that? Nothing.
- 24:37I just like adventures. I don't know, I just
- 24:41like adventure. Some of my friends would tell
- 24:45me, you know, that's not safe, it's dangerous,
- 24:48but I probably just did it once or twice because
- 24:51my friends keep telling me I shouldn't do it.
- 24:54But I don't know if that's a talent. I don't
- 24:58know either. I guess it's a good way to definitely
- 25:01use your time. So if time is a talent. It's recreation.
- 25:06Everyone needs to learn how to do it. Yeah, I
- 25:09can cook different dishes from all around the
- 25:12world. For example? Korean dish or Japanese or
- 25:17Thai. So I love cooking. So that's probably a
- 25:21talent that most people don't know because they
- 25:23only see me as a musician. But I do cook. Some
- 25:28people say well, but I cook decent. I like your
- 25:34humility. Okay. Last question. Last question
- 25:40here. If you were asked, what would you rather
- 25:43do? Okay. Would you rather preach an unprepared
- 25:46sermon or sing a music solo? Sing a music solo.
- 25:53Yeah. Yeah. Speaking. Like, you know, it makes
- 25:59me really nervous. I came here very nervous about
- 26:03what I'm going to say. I had to like really write
- 26:06the outline and like prepare my thoughts because
- 26:11I'm not good at speaking. Did you find that helpful
- 26:15for this interview? Yeah. Because this is not
- 26:19a sermon, it's more relaxed, but it still gives
- 26:22me some kind of anxiety. So sermon would definitely
- 26:26give me a lot of anxiety. Yeah. When was the
- 26:30last time you preached a sermon? Probably in
- 26:32college. I did some talks here and there, you
- 26:35know, like when I prepare, when I do my recitals,
- 26:38I would present some lectures. But to me, it's
- 26:42a little different when you're lecturing and
- 26:44you're doing a sermon. because it's more interactive.
- 26:50Yeah. I prefer to do teaching than preaching.
- 26:55This is my style too. I find it more interactive,
- 26:59more interesting. You can do fun stuff with the
- 27:02people. Whereas I think that sometimes preaching
- 27:05sermons Oh, it's good. And it has its place.
- 27:08It's just a, it's a bit of a monologue. Yeah.
- 27:10And I want it structured. Yeah. And I want, I
- 27:13like sermons that are structured and I don't
- 27:15think I could be like very structured if I'm
- 27:19just babbling words. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. True.
- 27:24Well, I have learned a lot about you and this
- 27:27Reprify Christian section. Thank you so much
- 27:29for sharing. Thank you. Yeah. It's good to have
- 27:34you on the podcast today, lady. I hope they learned
- 27:38something and I hope you're blessed, inspired
- 27:41somehow to create scripture songs or whatever
- 27:46gifts God has given you to just use it because
- 27:50we have time in our hands. And if you don't have
- 27:53time to make time really to be closer to God
- 27:57in whatever way we can, and He inspires us to.
- 28:01Well, thank you for listening to this episode
- 28:03of Adventist Music. That brings us to the end
- 28:06of this episode, but it's not the end if you
- 28:09would like to listen to more. We have more interviews
- 28:12with musicians in the Adventist Church community.
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- 29:02at all. And next time, maybe when you when you're
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- 29:12you create the sequel, the new the next. OK,
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