Latest / Into the Channel ⚽️ A Podcast Primarily About Women's Football / ENGLAND V SPAIN PREVIEW 🏆 UEFA WOMEN'S EURO 2025 FINAL | EP 156
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- 0:05Kate, welcome to Into the Channel podcast for mail about
- 0:08women's football. I'm your host Dino de Suspidis
- 0:10and as always I'm joined by my Co host Mr. Grant Engel.
- 0:15What is up man? I'm feeling fantastic, buddy.
- 0:18I know we've said it a couple times already when we recapped
- 0:22Spain's victory over Germany, but we're here, man.
- 0:24We made it to the final 2025 women's your own.
- 0:28I mean, it's been a great tournament so far, and the crown
- 0:31jewel is still up for grabs. That's right, the world's
- 0:35greatest women's football pocket.
- 0:37No, the the European Championship, UEFA 2025.
- 0:42Let's get to it. England and Spain.
- 0:45Big congratulations. In terms of like predictions,
- 0:49you had Spain in your final. I had England in my final.
- 0:52We'll eventually get to some picks, We'll talk about some
- 0:54players to watch. I want to get into some some
- 0:57match ups to watch. Kind of identified a few that I
- 1:00I think are fun. I want to get into so much to
- 1:02cover the final coming up Sunday, 9:00 AM Pacific.
- 1:06Mr. Grant Angle, where do you want to get started?
- 1:09Well, I think we should get started by just talking about
- 1:12how we got here. And let's do that with a
- 1:15beverage with a refreshment. Let's go.
- 1:19Can I call this the third? Sounds great.
- 1:22Can I call this the third to last or the what?
- 1:26What would you call it as well? I mean, penultimate is second to
- 1:28last. I'm not sure what what 3rd to
- 1:30last is, but we have a beer for this show, obviously a beer for
- 1:33the final. And then maybe like some will do
- 1:36some kind of retrospective and I think that would conclude a
- 1:39several beer series. Yep, it's the trend.
- 1:43Ultimate beer. Cheers.
- 1:44Cheers to you. Cheers to the football.
- 1:47Cheers to the word trend ultimate.
- 1:48That may or may not actually be a word, I'm not sure.
- 1:52Hopefully it's not a terribly offensive word that that's like
- 1:55awful connotations. But real quick, I, I, I want to
- 2:00shout out some of our friends before we get to it.
- 2:01I know I asked you where you want to get started.
- 2:03So I'm going to pre empt that or, or I'm going to just side
- 2:06swipe it a little bit and just mention some of our friends that
- 2:08I want to kind of call out. We made a bunch of new friends
- 2:11during this heroes, as as mentioned, we expanded the
- 2:14tentacles. We produced a bunch of shows.
- 2:17We got extra sleepy on the Sleepy Boys podcast.
- 2:19It was it was a sleepy summer, but I think we we survived.
- 2:22We're still awake. Stay posted to see if you know
- 2:25how long that lasts, but L beg 323 Meg MO my guy Mark Gibbs, my
- 2:30card corner brother Mark Gibbs. I appreciate you bro Summer
- 2:33cook. How about John Rollins, loud and
- 2:36proud Orlando straight while in our comments section just giving
- 2:40it to the England detractors. Just let them know you do not
- 2:44come to the ITC comment section and talk down about the
- 2:49Lionesses. Carlo, you already know claw
- 2:51hammer and I had one more Justin Williams.
- 2:54You already know what time it is.
- 2:55We love you, love you Justin, but our guy MLSI don't know
- 2:59definitely ITC community member, Hall of Famer, an eloquent chap.
- 3:03I think we could say that right? Of course, but MLS got into it.
- 3:07In our comments section. I'm not going to mention the the
- 3:09user that started the conversation, but anonymous user
- 3:13says sorry, but what do football coaches tell their goalkeepers?
- 3:17Quote Guard your near post End Quote.
- 3:19Honestly that was a poor goal to give away by Germany in extra
- 3:23time and our guy MLS responds. Spain won Germany nil.
- 3:28Stuck on that. Coulda woulda shoulda.
- 3:34All right, Yeah, sure. Yeah, that I mean that
- 3:36translates in any in any language.
- 3:38MLSI guess that that's, you know, fair game A.
- 3:42Little off. Brand for a guy?
- 3:44Yeah, seriously, that would caught me off guard this
- 3:47morning, but got a good chuckle out of it and I just really
- 3:50appreciate it. Everybody you know opening up,
- 3:53sharing their thoughts, sharing their emotions, sharing their
- 3:55experience of watching the tournament with us and with
- 3:58others. Oh yeah, no doubt.
- 4:00I mean, just consistently dropping knowledge.
- 4:02I mean Blau ground of blood another another new friend we've
- 4:05made during these EUR shortly before the EUR.
- 4:09Like look for Blau ground of bloods social media, you know,
- 4:12Barcelona focus coverage, obviously talking about Spain as
- 4:15well, you know, super informative researched stuff.
- 4:19I think you mentioned Carlo P3 Speaking of the Spanish
- 4:22contingent, Hizzy young always rocking with us.
- 4:25Appreciate you Hizzy key KLC always hanging out too.
- 4:29Just, I mean, just knowers of ball, friendly people, maybe the
- 4:34occasional outburst, but that's OK.
- 4:36We're talking football. It is.
- 4:38We're talking sports. It's, it's all right.
- 4:40We can. We can keep it friendly for the
- 4:42most part. Hell yeah.
- 4:44This is a friendly space. It's a learning space.
- 4:46But I, I want to talk to football.
- 4:48And the more, the more I kind of dug into this final, you know,
- 4:51there's just so many juicy ways to look at it, some storylines,
- 4:55some angles. You know, there's the revenge
- 4:58angle, there's the like kind of who wears the crown angle.
- 5:01You've got the European champions, you got the World Cup
- 5:03champions. But where do you want to get
- 5:05started talking about the match? Let's talk about the challengers
- 5:10for this trophy. Anyway, let's talk about Spain.
- 5:14Young, up and comers. Oh yes, of course.
- 5:17Obviously the plucky underdogs from Spain. 17 goals for, three
- 5:22goals against. If you combine the group stage
- 5:24and the knockout stage. LED in minutes by 31 year old
- 5:29Alexia Patea's two time Bolland Door winner of course, and Patri
- 5:32Gujaro, a 27 year old with 479 and 476 minutes respectively.
- 5:39They've been objectively pretty great.
- 5:41I would say Alexia, you know, not a not a huge match against
- 5:44Germany, but that's a luxury that they have where their two
- 5:47time Balandor winner doesn't play that great.
- 5:49But Oh yeah, the other two time Balandor winner scores the
- 5:52scores of the winner, Spain's margin of victory.
- 5:54I thought this was a fun little set.
- 5:56It's kind of been dwindling as the tournament has gone on.
- 5:59They won the first match by 5, second match by 4, then two and
- 6:03two and then one against Germany.
- 6:06So that margin of victory is just kind of climbing down.
- 6:08But the, you know, the trending's got more trending in
- 6:11a, in a, in a good direction if you're an England supporter.
- 6:13But you know, the, the tournament's also got more
- 6:16difficult. They got more minutes under your
- 6:18belt. The, the, the games have, you
- 6:20know, are higher leverage. So Spain is incredible.
- 6:24They're ranked #2 in the FIFA rankings for a reason, the the
- 6:28reigning World Cup champions. But this tournament was not
- 6:31totally a walk for them. And I think that that probably
- 6:35surprised at least one or two people.
- 6:37Yeah, I would say so. I mean Jeremy matchup was also
- 6:40it was a tough matchup. They were tested for sure, but a
- 6:44couple players that you mentioned, obviously Alexia,
- 6:46three goals, 4 assists, incredibly productive, maybe
- 6:50cool. You know, I, I wonder if her
- 6:54lighter weight game versus Germany had anything to do with
- 6:57Alessandra being out and just kind of like the distribution a
- 7:00little bit differently, like the just the ball just was going in
- 7:03different directions. But to your point, great luxury
- 7:07to have to have a player like that just eating up defensive
- 7:10attention, you know, in the middle of the park.
- 7:12But I wanted to talk about Batti, who's just been awesome.
- 7:15So over the course of the EUR, Batti's leading Spain in
- 7:19touches, tackles, interceptions, blocks and completed passes.
- 7:24She's got 48 more completed passes than the second highest
- 7:28in the entire tournament, which would be her team mate, Irene
- 7:32Perez, who is also ball. And I, I think that that that
- 7:35pairing, that center back pairing Perez and Alessandri, to
- 7:39me, that's the first key of the game for me.
- 7:42You know, can England do anything with those two players?
- 7:44I mean, I think those two specifically super stout
- 7:48defensively, but then the distribution, they get the ball,
- 7:51they move it along and now all of a sudden you had an
- 7:54opportunity in a dangerous area. You're sort of in the final
- 7:57third or in and around or maybe sneaking in and all of a sudden
- 8:00the ball is going the other way and now you're in your defensive
- 8:033rd. So I think what I'm thinking
- 8:05about the keys, those two players, that's like the first
- 8:08place that I'm thinking about. Yeah, I think that makes a lot
- 8:10of sense. I mean, you know, we talk about
- 8:12it. You can you can give a lot of
- 8:14publicity to Spain's incredible scores that, you know, the magic
- 8:18that Bone Mati can create on the field.
- 8:22Claudia Pina, you know, one of the most in form strikers in the
- 8:25world. As we've talked about many
- 8:26times, the defense sets the tone, man.
- 8:29Like it's their press. And you know, those attacking
- 8:32players, they are terrorizing the the opponent in that press.
- 8:37And then if by some luck or grace or like great skill,
- 8:40you're able to get past that press, now you're contending
- 8:43with the with those great defenders as well.
- 8:45So yeah, I think that's going to be a key.
- 8:47I'll go with the key to the match on England's side.
- 8:50Then I think it's going to have to be beating that press to your
- 8:54point and getting even being able to challenge those
- 8:57defenders to make those center backs have to work.
- 9:01You have to be able to get past that.
- 9:03And you know, that's going to be honestly, that's going to be on
- 9:06Alex Greenwood, that's going to be on Kyra Walsh, Georgia
- 9:09Stanway. And they had some moments.
- 9:11You know, I was kind of looking back through the tournament.
- 9:13England had some really positive results.
- 9:15What about that France match up, though?
- 9:17You know, they get, they were getting cooked in in some of
- 9:20those and some of those spaces in the middle of the field.
- 9:23And it was because Stanway and Walsh were giving the ball away
- 9:27and France punished them. You give the ball away against
- 9:30Spain, you're definitely going to get punished by them as well.
- 9:33You know, I'm, I'm really curious to see what Wiegmann
- 9:36does defensively, You know, because when you rewind back, I
- 9:39went back and checked the 2023 World Cup and it looked like
- 9:43Wiegmann was either at a back according to the Internet
- 9:46sources of back three. But it looked like a back 5 just
- 9:48because they had bronze on the outside on the outside of one
- 9:51end and I'm blanking who they had on the other side.
- 9:53But I'd be curious to see how Wiegmann sets up defensively.
- 9:57If you're thinking it's either Jess Carter or Esme Morgan at
- 10:01center back, potentially against the Spain side, you know, that
- 10:05could, you know, pose some problems for sure.
- 10:08If, if you're in that traditional back four, do you,
- 10:11are you expecting any kind of changes from Wiegmann?
- 10:13Because I think there was one that I'm, I'm, I'm also curious
- 10:16about upfront. What?
- 10:17What kind of line ups are you expecting?
- 10:19Real quick in 2023, Rachel Daly was on that squad, so she was
- 10:22playing a lot of like that kind of like left left wing back
- 10:25type. I'm a huge Rachel Daly guy, big
- 10:27fan of her. Like, I mean, a great striker in
- 10:29the WSL had, you know, had the commitment and the toughness to
- 10:33play like wing back for for the Lionesses in the EUR and that
- 10:37World Cup. I think, I think we're going to
- 10:40see more of the same. I actually took a screenshot of
- 10:43it to make sure I didn't screw it up.
- 10:45But if I had to guess, I think England lines up obviously
- 10:49Hampton and goal bronze, Williamson, Morgan, Greenwood,
- 10:53Walsh, Stanway, James, Toon, Hemp and Russo up front would be
- 10:58would be the 11 that I think she's going to have to put out
- 11:00there. But I have changes.
- 11:03Yeah, no changes. And I think with one caveat,
- 11:07obviously, Lauren, Lauren James's health is, you know, the
- 11:10concern there, but you know, the fact that she went out at after
- 11:13the half, hopefully she's had some time to rest and heal.
- 11:16The one caveat there, I would say to Wiegmann style, is when I
- 11:20talk about beating that press, you're going to need to have
- 11:22constant movement off the ball. You're going to have to be
- 11:25constantly looking for space. I think Wiegmann might have to
- 11:28go to the bench a little earlier than she then we've seen her do
- 11:32in the past. I could definitely see that My
- 11:35my question and it's tough because there's a lot of really
- 11:38good players, but I'm not sure how you keep Chloe Kelly out of
- 11:43the starting line up, assuming she's healthy, because it's it's
- 11:48a little bit past the Oh, she's playing really well and like, oh
- 11:52super sub like this, a real injection of like, you know,
- 11:56she's been a tournament saver, you know, like she's got to
- 11:58like, I don't know, but keeping England in the tournament for
- 12:01sure. So it's a dangerous game.
- 12:04We talked about how late Wiegmann made some of those
- 12:07changes. I'm not sure how comfortable I
- 12:09would feel. You know, you look at LJI, love
- 12:11LJ. I'm probably like the world's
- 12:13biggest LJ fan. I would say my favorite player.
- 12:17Five shots, two goals versus the Netherlands in a back against
- 12:21the wall match up in a huge spot in the other 4 appearances.
- 12:25Nine shots, 2 on target, zero goals.
- 12:28So there was something about that Netherlands match, you
- 12:31know, maybe it was health or fitness or maybe it was just the
- 12:34moment. But I think there is an
- 12:35opportunity here. There's an opportunity here for
- 12:38a few different players. I think there's an opportunity
- 12:40for a Chloe Kelly to kind of like now move into legendary.
- 12:45You know, now I've, I'm just this player, I'm like just this
- 12:50like the clutch player of a generation.
- 12:53Maybe like that's that's maybe possible depending on what
- 12:55happens in this in this final. I think LJ has a chance to kind
- 12:59of like move into that upper echelon Bollindor type
- 13:03conversation with a huge performance here.
- 13:05Russo maybe has some potential there.
- 13:08Hannah Hampton I think has some potential.
- 13:09Like these are players that I think, you know, legacy wise, I
- 13:13mean, massive, massive stakes. You think about the game, but
- 13:15then like there's so much history woven into what's going
- 13:18to happen in this match and what we'll remember for for so many
- 13:21years on to the future makes it a really compelling proposition.
- 13:25Yeah, no doubt. I mean, I think it's, we're
- 13:27going to have to have a Hannah Hampton game.
- 13:29I think, I mean, in the last two matches, you know, when Spain
- 13:33beat Switzerland, they were, I think it will, I'm going to do
- 13:37some of this off the top of my head.
- 13:38It was they were six shots on target out of 23 total shots and
- 13:42that's 26%. And then in this match against
- 13:45Germany, they were four shots on target out of 15, which I think
- 13:50roughly also equates to like 26%.
- 13:53I'll take more of that, please. As an England supporter, like, I
- 13:56like them, you know, getting less than 30% of their shots on
- 14:00target. And I feel good about Hannah
- 14:02Hampton in that proposition. The only thing is some of those
- 14:05shots on target might be Claudia Pina wonder strikes or just a
- 14:10missile from, you know, Bone Mati or, you know, Patri might
- 14:13let one loose or, you know, Battier might get a rebound and
- 14:17fire 1 into the corner or something like that.
- 14:19Or, And as much as I admire her, and I was thinking about this
- 14:22more and more as we are kind of doing this, like the Olga
- 14:26Carmona goal in the World Cup final is like I, I think part of
- 14:31the reason why I enjoy watching her play so much.
- 14:34I know that sounds weird as a guy who like supports England,
- 14:37but like she's just that kind of player.
- 14:40And like when she kind of stepped up, she's like on the
- 14:42left wing. I can still see it happening for
- 14:44what we had to. I had to watch that game at like
- 14:465:00 AM or whatever on the here in Seattle, and she just steps
- 14:51up from the wing and just blasted into the corner to beat
- 14:54Herbs. And I was like, well, shit, I
- 14:56didn't. I didn't see that coming that
- 14:58much. Like, like I, you know, you
- 15:00know, she had it in her game, but anybody from Spain can
- 15:03score. But I also have pretty good
- 15:05faith that Hampton can stop any shot.
- 15:08Yeah, no doubt. I think the that Carmona go, I
- 15:11watched it today too, just before they brought it up.
- 15:14Definitely shades of the I tonic goal of totally different angle.
- 15:17The I tonic goal to beat the burger to to make it to the
- 15:19final. I'm glad you brought up Olga
- 15:22Carmona, because she'll be on that same side versus Lucy big
- 15:26game bronze. We might get Lucy big game
- 15:28bronze versus Olga game just as big Carmona who scores in the in
- 15:33the World Cup. You know, like just is that that
- 15:35same love was like, all right, let's see who's got the bigger
- 15:37game here. That's going to be a fun battle.
- 15:39You know, we mentioned Hannah Hampton, who I thought has been
- 15:42had some really big moments. Katakoya, I think has been
- 15:46massive as well. And I I mentioned it on our last
- 15:48show. I thought was the reason, not
- 15:50the reason, but without her, I'm not sure that Spain gets past
- 15:53Germany. And you could look at Nan
- 15:55Gladys, who started the first three matches for Spain.
- 15:58Well, let's look at that last two matches.
- 16:00Four shots on target against 4 saves, zero goals allowed.
- 16:05Again, this is a knockout football against Switzerland,
- 16:08the home country against Germany, you know, for for
- 16:11pretty much all the stakes. And then you look at Nan Gladys
- 16:14in the knockout stage, I'm sorry, in the group stage 3
- 16:16matches, six shots on target against three saves, three goals
- 16:21allowed. So big difference between non
- 16:24Gladys performance. I got that going.
- 16:25I think I got that going is just, you know, it's tough to
- 16:28grade her. As mentioned, you know, she just
- 16:29doesn't she's not as tested as some of these other keepers, but
- 16:32she is, you know, the the 1A for the best club team in the world
- 16:37and the 1A for either the first or second best, you know,
- 16:40international team in the world. So that's that stuff.
- 16:43You got to account for something.
- 16:45Hannah Hampton on the other side will get tested as mentioned.
- 16:49But I think, you know, she's she's stepped up I think really
- 16:52big in this tournament. She's she's had a lot more work
- 16:54to do, 19 shots on target, faced 13 saves, six goals allowed.
- 16:59But obviously England has faced a bunch of flux defensively.
- 17:03And I think probably I would say absolutely has faced A tougher,
- 17:06tougher competition. You look at France, you look at
- 17:08Netherlands, you look at Sweden, I think Italy also, I mean
- 17:13Italy. Both sides had to face Italy.
- 17:15But England for sure the tougher Rd.
- 17:17But I think the goalkeeping edge I think probably has to go to
- 17:22Spain and got the goy. Yeah, that's, that's probably
- 17:27fair. It's close, man.
- 17:28I was thinking about like this tournament.
- 17:30I mean, I know we talk about like in NWSL you have on Katrin
- 17:34Berger and Caitlin Sheridan and Lorena, you know, end goal.
- 17:40And then I was thinking about this tournament, you have Coy
- 17:43Hampton, Falk Burger again now in this tournament, obviously.
- 17:48Yeah, Anna Morehouse. And there's Anna Morehouse,
- 17:52obviously. I thought Giuliani for Italy was
- 17:55good too. Yeah.
- 17:56No, that's totally fair. Yeah.
- 17:57I mean, just like a ton of like great goalkeepers, like all
- 18:01over, all over the world. But I was thinking about what a
- 18:03good goalkeeping tournament this has been, some really, you know,
- 18:07acrobatic, amazing saves, great instincts, things like that.
- 18:11But yeah, I mean, you'll just have to see, like, I'm going to
- 18:13go back to the 2023 World Cup final.
- 18:16I want to say somewhere in maybe the 15th minute, somewhere
- 18:20around there, I think another moment that that kind of lives
- 18:24rent free in my head. Lauren HAMP hits the crossbar
- 18:26and it's just like man, getting the opener would have been real
- 18:30nice in that scenario. Now, you know, Spain probably
- 18:33could have had two in that first half.
- 18:35They got the one from Carmona as previously mentioned, but you
- 18:39know, herbs was herbs was showing up huge.
- 18:41So it's it's hard to say like should they could they have got
- 18:442? I don't know man.
- 18:46I you know it it. I think it's an edge to Koi, but
- 18:49I only think it's a slight edge. Yeah, I agree with that.
- 18:53I'm not sure it's going to come down to the goalkeeping, but I
- 18:55think it's definitely worth the conversation.
- 18:57No doubt. Managers was the next one I
- 18:59wanted to think about. Obviously, Serena Vigman's got
- 19:02the experience, championship experience, you know, dating
- 19:05back a long time. But Monta Tomei, I think after
- 19:09somewhat of a rocky start, taking over for Vilda, caught
- 19:12her stride really, really well. Has seems to have a good handle
- 19:16on what's going on, a good handle on the rotation, because
- 19:19it just felt like there's been a lot of, you know, good
- 19:22rotations, a lot of good, you know, it feels like everybody's
- 19:25got minutes. Yeah, no doubt.
- 19:27I mean, you know, if you think about who's leading England in
- 19:32minutes, you have Alex Greenwood.
- 19:33She's over 500 minutes. What?
- 19:37I, I think I said, yeah, I 400 is 479 and 476.
- 19:41So Greenwood's over 500. And then Lucy Bronze, Kyra Walsh
- 19:44and Leah Williamson are all over 450 minutes apiece.
- 19:48So I mean, you know, when matches go into extra time,
- 19:51you're going to need, you know, players who are on the pitch for
- 19:54a long time. I'll be interested to see how
- 19:56that plays out. But no, I think this is the
- 19:59second time I mentioned Alex Screen what I said she's going
- 20:01to have to be key in beating the press.
- 20:05Greenwood is leading England in touches.
- 20:08She's leading them in interceptions with 12.
- 20:10She's leading them in crosses with 32 and she's tied for first
- 20:14in recoveries with Williamson. And you know, she's going to
- 20:18have to be huge. You know 3131 year old defender
- 20:21from. From Manchester City Football
- 20:24Club. You know, she's had good
- 20:26moments. She's she's come up big in this
- 20:29tournament. I'm just a little, I just tell
- 20:31you, man, I'm an England supporter.
- 20:34I'm a wee bit worried. What weak points are you
- 20:38thinking about? I'm concerned that Williamson
- 20:42Morgan and and Greenwood, frankly, I think they might have
- 20:46a real hard time with the press when it when it's coming from
- 20:50Cal Dente, who is one of the smartest players in the world,
- 20:53especially the way she presses. And you have Cal Dente, Esther
- 20:58Gonzalez and Claudia Pina pressing you and then the second
- 21:01wave of players pressing you are Patri and Bone Mati and Alexia.
- 21:06You could be in big trouble here.
- 21:09And I I think there's that that leads me to another point when
- 21:12we think about, you know, trying to get the ball forward and
- 21:14trying to get the ball in, not not just in, you know, the
- 21:17attacking half, but the attacking 3rd for England, who
- 21:20is leading England with the most touches in the attacking third.
- 21:24You have Lauren Hemp at 1:44. You have Lauren James.
- 21:28She's third with 122 and sandwiched in between with 136
- 21:35touches in the attacking third. Lucy Big game Bronze.
- 21:39I knew it. Now, how often, how many
- 21:42opportunities is Lucy Bronze going to have with the ball in
- 21:47the attacking third while Spain is just running down your neck
- 21:51on the other side? Yeah, it won't be too many
- 21:54because it'll be Olga on that side.
- 21:56It's Olga and Pina on that side. Yeah, that's, that's painful.
- 22:01It's tough. And this is where I thought the
- 22:04France matchup that you called out early in the show pretty
- 22:07prescient because what did we see in that France match?
- 22:10We saw France controlling, you know, like the real estate and
- 22:14in England having to defend, having to like win the ball back
- 22:18and scrap. And then you're, you know,
- 22:20you're seeing these like big players that are primarily
- 22:23creators, you know, like the LJS and the Hemps.
- 22:26And, you know, I don't think all the tune was playing in that
- 22:28game, but you just didn't see the same level of team defending
- 22:32as you saw from like some of those teams that adopted defense
- 22:36as their DNA, like the Italies and the Sweden's.
- 22:38And you know, like it just was not at the same level.
- 22:41And now England won't be playing this match on the front foot
- 22:45like they had played, you know, the the the the following four
- 22:49matches after the France loss. Now it'll it's going to go back
- 22:52a little bit too, I think even more so it's going to go back to
- 22:55can you defend? Can you stay disciplined, be in
- 22:58those passing lanes, think a little bit more
- 23:00opportunistically? And then can you find success
- 23:06offensively through the center of the park, you know, through
- 23:09Kira Walsh, through Stanway, you know, like, or are you just
- 23:14kicking Hail Marys, you know, over the top or, you know, up
- 23:18the sidelines and, and hoping that you can, hoping that
- 23:21somebody could beat somebody else one-on-one.
- 23:23Because if that, if that becomes the game plan early, which I
- 23:26don't, I don't expect it to, but if it does, I think that's a
- 23:28bad, a bad sign for for England. It certainly will be.
- 23:32And you have to look at like, where's Alessia Russo getting
- 23:35the ball? If she's 5 yards on the
- 23:37defensive side of the center circle, then you're in real
- 23:41trouble because now think of how many more passes you have to get
- 23:45before you're even really putting any stress on Spain's
- 23:49defense. So, you know, I I think those
- 23:51are all very concerning. And I think it's worth noting
- 23:54that, you know, England still had 57% of the ball in that
- 23:58match against France. They were just getting fried in
- 24:01a lot of those situations where France would be running the ball
- 24:04back up. And we know that, you know, we
- 24:05know France has a a want and indefinitely an ability to play
- 24:11that kind of counter attack, kill you kind of football on the
- 24:15rush. So, yeah, I mean, the the tricky
- 24:18part when any team is going up against Spain is they can do all
- 24:23of it now like they they tend to, you know, dominate
- 24:27possession. You know, it's Spanish football
- 24:28in general. But then, you know, there could
- 24:30be those opportunities where Lauren James gets the
- 24:33opportunity. She gets down on the wing, she
- 24:36plays the ball across it, doesn't hit the target.
- 24:39And then now Perez is running and like you talked about
- 24:42earlier, getting the ball forward using great
- 24:45distribution, couple touches and now Pina or Mariona are are
- 24:51flying down the wing with, with runners in the middle of the
- 24:54field. I mean, you, you have to prepare
- 24:57for everything against Spain. And that's just going to leave
- 25:00your, it's going to leave your team stretched in a lot of
- 25:03different situations. I think you've nailed a couple
- 25:05different. I mean, this is England, so it's
- 25:07your team. You know them, you know more
- 25:09intimately than I do. But I'm in full agreement with
- 25:11you that I think you nailed the two areas where England's going
- 25:15to be the most vulnerable. 1 is when they're backed up into
- 25:18their own third and they just get the ball nicked away and you
- 25:22could just see, you know, getting getting swiped by
- 25:24Mariona or Pina or or Alexia in a spot like that.
- 25:28I think that's a real point of of danger.
- 25:30The second one is transition like you mentioned.
- 25:33You know, you could imagine a Lucy Bronze getting pulled up
- 25:37field or and Alex Greenwood now wants to be at the edge of the
- 25:40box. And yeah, I'm not sure what's
- 25:41going to be if it's going to be Carter or Morgan, it's probably
- 25:43Morgan. But you know, I've seen as an
- 25:46Arsenal fan, I've seen Williamson in transition kind of
- 25:49struggle a little bit when she's got to rotate her hips and kind
- 25:52of get around and go from backpedaling to rotate full.
- 25:56You know, that's, that's a tough kind of motion for her for
- 25:58whatever reason. And I think England in
- 26:00transition is just, it's just not the right look.
- 26:03And then it leads me then to a player that I've thought a lot
- 26:07about for Spain, which is Sama Bariuello player that we haven't
- 26:10talked about too much, who got chances against Germany, got in
- 26:14good positions, guide to dangerous spots.
- 26:18I think we could see some bodyolo magic laid in this one,
- 26:23especially if something like that that we're talking about
- 26:25like a transition opportunity the other way.
- 26:27I think bodyolo is like the perfect counter punch to that
- 26:30type of situation. So, you know, who knows a game
- 26:34within a goal or maybe even even down the stretch.
- 26:37I think a bodyolo on the counter is another another risky thing I
- 26:42think that Eng is going to have to look out for.
- 26:44I think she's appeared in every match.
- 26:46I and I'm not, I think she's only started a couple.
- 26:50But yeah, I mean, she is a clear weapon off the bench, you know,
- 26:55just an injection of speed and spirit and smarts who's gonna
- 27:01come on there and put pressure on your defense.
- 27:03So yeah, I think it's a, it's the right call out by you and
- 27:06it's just, it's no relief. So like, who comes off for is it
- 27:10Ester? Is it, you know, is it Claudia
- 27:12Pina? And then you're like, oh, OK,
- 27:14thank goodness one of those extremely dangerous players are
- 27:16coming off and you look on the sideline, here comes beta Ualo
- 27:19to come, you know, smoke you on the run.
- 27:21So like, I don't mean to, I don't mean to like totally sound
- 27:26like England has no chance. I mean, they have, like I said,
- 27:29they have great players. They have the skill to do these
- 27:31things. And do I expect Kiera Walsh and
- 27:35Georgia Stanway to both have a bad game?
- 27:39Like I don't like I, you know, they're, they're great players
- 27:41who know these Spanish players, by the way, played against them,
- 27:45played with them. But it's just, you know, it's
- 27:48always an uphill battle for Spain.
- 27:50No, it's going to be, it's going to be really tough.
- 27:53I think the best I can hope for. And it's weird man, because like
- 27:56that Germany game plan, you know, and like, you know, it's
- 28:00funny that I, I went through the whole German roller coaster this
- 28:02year, you know, like picked up the window, the whole thing,
- 28:05just trash them. They, they kind of like broke my
- 28:07heart and stepped on my pinky toe.
- 28:10And then I, I come back and I just was like really happy with
- 28:12the, their performance against Spain and, and was, you know,
- 28:15just very celebratory for how they played.
- 28:18No knock on England. I like England, I like the
- 28:20players. I don't think that they could do
- 28:22that same thing that we saw Germany do, which was just sell
- 28:26out physically, just be everywhere.
- 28:29And just, I mean, give all of it to the cause.
- 28:32And the cause being let's take this, let's take this to BKS and
- 28:36see if Clara Boo or you LeBron could like steal one at some
- 28:39point. The right game plan.
- 28:41I, I don't think that England can do that.
- 28:43And I feel like England might find itself against a team that
- 28:48kind of wants to play the same way, but maybe is better suited
- 28:51from a personal standpoint to do so.
- 28:53I think you're 100% right. And the the caveat I would throw
- 28:57on that is they won't be able to do that.
- 29:00They won't be able to utilize that kind of game plan for 75
- 29:04minutes of the match. What I think England has to do
- 29:08is maybe they can do that for 60 minutes of the match, but they
- 29:13have to have what, however it's sprinkled in.
- 29:16If it's 15 minutes in the first half, 15 minutes of the
- 29:18second-half, they have to have 30 good minutes across these 90
- 29:23where they are dictating some of the pace of the match.
- 29:26And they're not. They're not completely flustered
- 29:29by the press where they can get into their stuff and do some of
- 29:32their English football control, some of the pace of the game it
- 29:36around, move it from side to side and try to create a shot,
- 29:41try to create a run for Alessia Russo.
- 29:43Get Lauren Hemp out there playing physical wing play,
- 29:47getting whipping crosses in. You know your point about Chloe
- 29:51Kelly. I don't know if I don't think
- 29:53I'm, like overly superstitious. But yeah, I think it would be AI
- 29:57think it would be a gigantic swing to be like, OK, Chloe, now
- 30:00you're starting like, do I think she's capable?
- 30:03Yes, but like, she's been awesome.
- 30:05Now I think again, you know, I'm probably just feeding into my
- 30:09own thought process here, but maybe you bring her on at 65,
- 30:13you know, like maybe maybe you bring her on at 60, depending
- 30:16on, you know, how things look. I think in that World Cup final,
- 30:21you know, Wiegmann took Alessia Russo off at halftime and put on
- 30:25Chloe Kelly. Who else did she take off?
- 30:27She took off. She took off Rachel Daly and put
- 30:29on Lauren James at halftime in that final.
- 30:32We'll see how she how she adjusts in this one.
- 30:35But if you're England, it's unrealistic.
- 30:39And yeah, this is just who Spain is.
- 30:41Again, we're based in the USA. You know, we have our biases.
- 30:44Whatever any team playing against Spain, you're not
- 30:49winning the possession battle. I don't care who you are.
- 30:51Like, you know, we like the USA. They have a lot of great
- 30:53players. You're not beating Spain in the
- 30:55possession battle. No chance.
- 30:57So you have to be able to figure out where are our spots, when
- 31:01can we kind of start to dictate the run of play for a little
- 31:04while? And then how do we get back into
- 31:06a defensive shell and counter all these all these great
- 31:10players from Spain. And I think that's going to be
- 31:11the the combination to give England a real chance to win.
- 31:14Yeah, I think, I think the defensive shell is definitely
- 31:17key. You know, it it's, it's
- 31:19reminding me of a couple data points versus Germany where
- 31:22Spain had like some like 380 or 390 touches in Germany's half,
- 31:27but only like less than 40 in inside Germany's box.
- 31:33So that kind of told me that Germany was like just
- 31:36controlling that little chunk of field between the halfway line
- 31:41and the 18 and just saying, OK, you could knock it around here,
- 31:44but this is where we draw the line.
- 31:46You know, kind of defensively, I think England's going to have to
- 31:49do the same. And you know, to your point on
- 31:52who they have out there, you're going to have to counter, you
- 31:56know, so it's probably going to have to be a lot of Lauren Hemp,
- 31:59you know, and you know, like then what is what is Alessia
- 32:03Russo's role? Is it kind of like get down
- 32:05there and let's hold it up and let's try to get the body
- 32:08between the, you know, the ball and the defender and then let's
- 32:10send in the Calvary. To your point, LJ, maybe Ella 2
- 32:13and Hemp. I'm sure we'll beat everybody
- 32:15there. She'll be, she'll already be
- 32:16there. Just check at her watch and, you
- 32:19know, probably guzzling a protein shake, you know, so
- 32:22she'll be ready. And I think I'm going to be
- 32:25interested to see the offensive approach that Beigman employs,
- 32:30as well as the first 10-12 minutes because I feel like if
- 32:33you're going to get Spain and you need a goal, you know, you
- 32:36mentioned that hemp chance in the World Cup.
- 32:39That was a, that was a heartbreaker.
- 32:40Very close. But if I recall correctly, I
- 32:43feel like hemp had some space on that one and was in a pretty
- 32:48decent area. And Spain will do that.
- 32:51They'll kind of they'll kind of work their themselves into the
- 32:55match in that way. You know, they're not going to
- 32:57come out from the first whistle and just be all in your shorts
- 33:00like they're you know, they'll kind of work, work up a sweat
- 33:03and take a little time to do so. So I think that first eight 1012
- 33:07minutes for England could also be really clutch if they can
- 33:09score there. To your point, I think that that
- 33:11really changes things in a huge way.
- 33:13That's a great point. I mean, now I've also, you know,
- 33:16had the had the thought process that sometimes scoring early
- 33:21just pisses off Spain and then they they come back, you know,
- 33:24with the hammer after that. But yeah, I mean, you know, I
- 33:28think the key for England is, is trying to get one in the first
- 33:30half. Again, you know, this is my
- 33:32incredible analysis of score goals, but you're going to need
- 33:36them. And it's an absolutely
- 33:39fascinating match up from what you said between the duel
- 33:42between Tomei and Wiegmann and then all the players on the
- 33:46pitch obviously is what we're tuning in for.
- 33:49I think it's, I think we're in for just a barn burner, to use
- 33:53an American phrase, a real slobber knocker, if you will,
- 33:59for all, for all of our new, you know, we've already had a lot of
- 34:02European pals, but all for, for all the new European pals.
- 34:06I'll, I'll hit you with more American, American slang here as
- 34:09we move forward. But I think it's going to be a
- 34:11good game, is what I'm trying to say here.
- 34:13Love it. All right, I think it's I think
- 34:15it's about time to make some predictions and you want to go
- 34:18first. You want me to go first?
- 34:20You go ahead. I kind of got, I got let off the
- 34:23hook a little bit because as mentioned up top, I had a
- 34:26England, I'm sorry, I had Germany to beat England in the
- 34:28final. So I thought long and hard about
- 34:31what would happen here. And my thought process, I think
- 34:34coming into the tournament, one of the first key things, you
- 34:38know, that I was just like, I'm not sure I can get past this.
- 34:42This notion was it's really fucking hard to win two of these
- 34:46things in a row. Like just it's a, there's a
- 34:49reason that, you know, we don't get a lot of repeat World Cups
- 34:53or repeat EUR, repeat Olympics. It's just, it's just a thing.
- 34:57It's just really, really hard. And I think I came into this
- 35:00tournament thinking it would be tough on England to, to get that
- 35:04done, you know, and, and obviously Spain's looked really
- 35:06good. They look like the best team.
- 35:08I think England's cut it really close.
- 35:10I think they, they, they easily could have lost either of those
- 35:13knockout stage matches. They did lose to France.
- 35:16So they're here because they're champions and they've got that
- 35:19championship DNA. They know how to win.
- 35:21They know how to not lose. So I do think this one will be
- 35:25crazy competitive. I've, I think penalty kicks have
- 35:28been the, the, the flavor of the tournament.
- 35:31I don't think it's going to go to penalty kicks, but I do think
- 35:33it's going to go to added extra time.
- 35:36And I think my little curveball that I'm going to throw is I
- 35:39think it's 11 when we go to added extra time.
- 35:42And I think Spain hanged 2 on England and they went three to
- 35:46one in 120 minutes. And a little icing on the cake,
- 35:50I think Baddiello gets one of those last two goals against a
- 35:55tired England defense to kind of ice it.
- 35:58And then we set the stage for 2027.
- 36:03At that point, you'd have Spain, you know, a couple different
- 36:05banners hanging and then USA, obviously the rating #1 the
- 36:09reigning Olympic champion, that long resume and, you know, the
- 36:12potential for just a massive pay-per-view style, you know,
- 36:16match up in 27. Yeah, that makes sense.
- 36:19I like it. I like the specificity.
- 36:23Look, I picked Spain to win this tournament before a ball was
- 36:28even kicked. I do not think they're nearly as
- 36:32tired as they were before that Olympic tournament.
- 36:35And also I've I've just heard like, you know, you see
- 36:38sometimes on like woso Reddit or like some other social media.
- 36:41And you know, I know we talk about like woso social media
- 36:43sometimes. And you know, it is a better
- 36:46version of social media than most other sports social media.
- 36:49So I'm going to give it a little more gravitas than others, but
- 36:53you'll see the occasional take of like at the Olympics.
- 36:56It's like not a real football tournament.
- 36:59And I just got to say I completely dismissed that.
- 37:02Like usually I'll listen to people's ideas, but like people
- 37:06have have tried to like lessen the, you know, US as win in the
- 37:11Olympics. I'm sorry.
- 37:12We're all the best teams except for team Great Britain there did
- 37:16all the best teams have pretty much their full complement of
- 37:19players? Yes, they did.
- 37:21But in that case, you could see the exhaustion in Spain's side.
- 37:27I don't think that exists in this tournament.
- 37:29I don't think there's any evidence that that has existed
- 37:31in this tournament. So to my pals Meg, Mark and
- 37:35John, obviously I'm sorry. I picked Spain to win this
- 37:40tournament before a ball was kicked.
- 37:42I know I support England. I know I've rooted for them
- 37:44since I was 12 years old playing FIFA.
- 37:47But I picked Spain to win, sorry.
- 37:49And I think they're gonna. Yeah.
- 37:50Blade as well. Yeah, yeah, Now I doubly
- 37:53disappointed Blade by not mentioning him in the mix.
- 37:56Sorry, pal. I think it's going to be, I
- 37:59think it's going to be two to one Spain.
- 38:01And I think, I don't think it's going to get to extra time.
- 38:04And I think Alexia Putais is going to score a goal somewhere
- 38:07between the 80th and the 90th minute.
- 38:09And I think she's going to lift the trophy.
- 38:12And I think her team mates will celebrate her as one of the
- 38:15greatest players who ever lived, as they should.
- 38:18All right, I like it. All right, so you heard it here.
- 38:21It's either going to be Spain 21 or Spain 31.
- 38:24You know, just head down to your, you know, I'm just
- 38:26kidding. Don't do that.
- 38:28Just go watch. That head down, head down to
- 38:30your local sports book. Enjoy it.
- 38:32I believe Spain is -135 in, in. I don't even, I don't know why
- 38:37I'm saying. I believe it's saying from your
- 38:40boy. I'm aware Spain is -135 yeah.
- 38:45You know what my sources are telling me?
- 38:48It's Spain -135 and I think now this one, It's a shameful.
- 38:53Look at that. Shameful that I don't even have
- 38:55it off the top of my head. Yeah, Spain -135 to win in
- 38:59regulation. England plus 3:50 to win in
- 39:02regulation. The draw, say 80 + + 260.
- 39:06Pretty good guess. 60 OK. Anytime goal scorers better.
- 39:10UA Low is a + 160 if you're interested in that.
- 39:15Don't bet that nobody bet that. Do not bet that people out
- 39:20there. We got to ask some questions of
- 39:24the people making these lines. Plus 155 anytime Goal scorer
- 39:30Elba Redondo. She has not played one minute in
- 39:35this tournament. Don't bet that either.
- 39:37Could you imagine if if that hits though?
- 39:39This will be a great clip afterward, but I don't she
- 39:43hasn't played. If that hits, I mean, still, I
- 39:46would be pissed that you bet that that number is a terrible
- 39:49number. That number should be 10 times
- 39:51that, maybe more. All right, so we got it.
- 39:54We got our picks. We beat our picks.
- 39:55Anything else you want to hit before we get out?
- 39:56Of here Lauren Hemp plus 340 I don't hate it.
- 39:59I don't hate. It what?
- 40:00Wait, wait, was it plus 340? Plus 340.
- 40:04I don't hate it. But anyway, all right, we'll
- 40:07see. We'll take it offline.
- 40:11Take it offline. Yeah, yeah, sign up for our
- 40:14Patreon for all our gambling dot coms.
- 40:18There you go. Just just look at whatever
- 40:21Carlo's prediction is in the in the comments of this video.
- 40:26Just bet that. Yeah, go find Carlo.
- 40:28All right, man, I think we did it this for another episode into
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- 40:55would lift the trophy with. At the same time, you know,
- 40:57along with that, I appreciate you, bro.
- 41:01Likewise, buddy, the feeling is mutual, of course.
- 41:03And you know what? Again, all of you, for all of
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