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Order From CHAOS: Epstein, Israel & Ancient Bloodlines w/ Todd Callender · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So looking around at the world right now, whether you're focusing in on on Trump and the whole Epstein situation and how he's,
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: in
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of ways, basically said that if you believe in the Epstein hoax, you're no longer one of my followers, which I I feel like is a pretty extreme statement, especially to those of us that have been covering Epstein for quite some time and are very well aware of the global pedophile blackmail rings that our intelligence agencies are running. So there's there's that whole thing, which I think has caught a lot of people off guard. But then you also have the advancement of just of AI and this this digital infrastructure and Palantir and the the frightening prospect of some sort of digital control grid. But then if you go deeper, you start to hear whisperings of some sort of, you know, geophysical event, something that the elites have been preparing for for a very long time. Something maybe in the 2027, '28, 2930, that there's something supposedly that is coming.
• 1:25
  And you look at all of this together, and then not even dimension this the the theater of DC and what's happening with Pam Bondi and all this, it just feels like if there's one word I could use to summarize the world right now, it's chaos. Chaos. Chaos. Nothing that we have expected is happening. Nothing that we have wanted are we seeing really kinda play out in the world right now.
• 1:49
  It just feels like it's just complete chaos, and Europe is upside down, and there's the immigration crisis, and you look at communities falling apart, not even mentioning the weather warfare. And and I'm not sure if it's weather warfare at this point or just if if if mankind has screwed with the weather so much that it's just spiraling out of control now. Right? Maybe these are intentional floods that they're creating, you know, proactively, or maybe they've just messed with something so much, and man attempted to play god so much that the whole plan is backfiring now. I mean, it's hard to make sense of it.
• 2:22
  But joining me today is my good friend, Todd Callender. And why do I think he's a good person for this kind of conversation? Well, because he's someone that looks at the big picture, and and he doesn't just look at one little slice of it. He he sees things from a very, very broad perspective, and that's that's how I like to look at things. I I hate just honing in on one thing and thinking, oh, this one politician's gonna fix everything, or it's like, it's so much bigger than that.
• 2:46
  And and if if we're trying to understand where we're at in the world and how we move forward, we can't do that without rooting ourselves spiritually and asking ourselves, well, where are we at in this battle of good and evil? What side am I on? Am I doing a good job fighting it? Are we winning? Is good advancing in the world?
• 3:02
  Is the evil retracting in the world, or is the opposite happening? And so there's no strong agenda for today's conversation with Todd. It's just gonna be a sober discussion of where the world's at and how can we potentially make a little more sense of what's going on around us. Because right now, it feels quite chaotic. I'm not sure what you think.
• 3:22
  Let me know in the comments. But for me, it just feels like there's chaos everywhere you look. And so I'm constantly trying to figure out how to find some sort of sense of centeredness amidst the chaos, and hopefully, this interview can help me do that and help you do that as well. So please enjoy the show and enjoy this interview with my good friend, Todd Callender. Mister Todd Callender, it's been gosh, I feel like it's been way too long, and I've been really looking forward to this discussion.
• 3:50
  So thank you for being here.
• 3:52
  Speaker 2: Always my pleasure. You know, Seth, you're a brother in this battle, a brother in Christ. It's always a joy to be with you.
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. I appreciate those words. And and, yeah, it's it's I one of the reasons why I like talking to you is that, a, I I I think that you and I are on very similar wavelengths. Right, which is always nice to talk to someone that you resonate well with, and it's it's easy to have those conversations. But also that I I think that there's a lot of people that if you take the pie of what's happening in the world, there's a lot of people that have a hard time seeing more than a few slices of it.
• 4:27
  And I've always been the kind of person that I like to look at what is the whole pie. Like, what's everything that's happening? And I see that, you know, you're someone that does the same, that you know what's happening with biotech, with AI, with health freedom, with, you know, kind of you're you're aware of the elites and the rulers, and and you you kinda get all these things. Certain guests that I have yeah. There you go.
• 4:51
  Certain guests that I have on that, like, they they only see one slice of it, and and I might go somewhere else, and they they can't really follow into and and make sense of it, but but you do. And I think it's especially important for, like, you know, people like you and I to have these kinds of conversations right now because I feel like that if you look around the world right now, there is just so much confusion. And, you know, when Trump got in, when Trump won, I you know, if you would've asked me, say, six months ago, Hey, Seth, where where do you see things at? You know, say, six months into Trump's term, where would you see things at? I would've thought, oh gosh.
• 5:27
  Well, we would have been the Epstein list, obviously, would have been released early on as as we were told. Right? You know, we would have seen probably the IRS kind of being dismantled, probably some high level arrests, you know, probably, you know, some some pretty significant changes. And there have been. You know, there you know, we we've closed up the border.
• 5:45
  We've been you know, ICE has been really active. There has been something that have happened. But, especially with the recent kind of just, I guess, noise about Epstein, and and how Trump has responded to it? I mean, because these are things that you and I have been talking about for years. You know?
• 6:03
  Child sex trafficking rings and and the elites and the currency of blackmail and pedophilia and the role of the agencies, you know, CIA, Mossad, etcetera, in running, you know, these rings. Right? And yet now we're being told that it's kind of a hoax. And, actually, I'll pull you know, to kind of finish my initial point and then let you talk, I'll pull up this just one tweet from Trump. I'm not gonna read the whole thing.
• 6:29
  He's talking about, basically, you know, the the the various, you know, radical left, kind of lies. Obviously, the Steele dossier, the the 51 intelligence agencies, the laptop, you know, the whole Russia, you know, things. You know, legitimately, these are absolutely hoaxes, that were, you know, these are lies that were told to steal the twenty twenty election, to demonize the the conservatives that were saying, hey. This hunter guy is doing some shady stuff on his laptop. Right?
• 6:59
  So these are all makes sense, but then he says, their new scam is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax, and my past supporters have bought into this BS hook line and sinker. Says a few things here. One is that he's I mean, if I'm reading the reading the room properly, reading the the tweet properly, that if you if you still believe in the idea of the Jeffrey Epstein island and and that he was running a blackmail operation, that you're no longer one of his current supporters. He's kinda, you know, kinda pushing you to the side with a capital past. Right?
• 7:30
  Saying that, you're you no longer you're no longer here. But also that it's that it's called a hoax because because if you look at the other hoaxes, the other hoaxes were specifically those were weapons pointed at Donald Trump. But if you look at the Epstein hoax, it's actually I I would say it's far more incriminating to the Democrats. Right? If you look at the flight logs, you look at Clinton, you look at a lot of the the major a list Hollywood celebrities or music producers, or it it seems like it would be more likely that the left would be calling it a hoax and that Trump would be the one saying, we gotta get to the bottom of this and make some arrests.
• 8:08
  And I I just I I don't know. Like, I I I call me a a conspiracy theorist, but I think that there was some pretty shady stuff going on on that island and that airplane, and I would like to see see us get to the bottom of it. But, anyway, you know, wherever you wanna jump in, Todd, I've decided how do you process all this?
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: Well, the inconsistencies are astounding to me, to be frank about it. But you go back to the original precept that you and I've been talking about for ages, and that's the older class. Their motto is Ordo Abcal. Right? They they want to create order from chaos.
• 8:47
  What would you call this? Chaos. Right? We're confusing the American public or frankly, humanity. It makes us malleable, right?
• 8:57
  To fit into certain channels and into a predetermined outcome. And so crashing the economy was the plan that has not happened. Getting everybody injected sick and dying also didn't happen, a lot of people did, but we're still here. So all of these things seem to be part of the plan and furtherance of the eradication of our species, Seth. I don't know what Mr.
• 9:23
  Trump is saying or doing these days or why he's saying these things. But it's inconsistent with some of his earlier things. So for example, the very first executive order he signed in his first presidency dealt with child trafficking and the invocation of something called IEPA, the International Economic Emergency Powers Act, which allows the US government to seize assets abroad based on certain criminal conduct, allegations of conduct. So it seems really odd to me for fifteen years, right? We've been hearing about this.
• 9:57
  You have a conviction of Jeffrey Epstein in Florida. Albeit he didn't really serve the time. I guess he would go about his business during the day and check-in a jail at night, but nonetheless, there's a conviction, right? That he was a convicted child predator, period. You have first person testimony of lots of victims who have filed lawsuits, have been paid compensation for the rapes against them, for the sexual assaults against them.
• 10:29
  So with that, those are facts. And how do we arrive at facts? You know, one determinable way is in a court of law. That's what trials are for. Arriving at facts.
• 10:39
  That's what trial courts do, find facts. So we have a lot of evidence that is factual. You know, that this actually did happen. Little Saint James is real. I live in The Caribbean.
• 10:50
  I've seen the island. I've been on it, I've flown over it. And I've certainly landed in in Saint Thomas, which is right next to I mean, it's all of whatever, maybe a mile away from the airport St. Thomas. All of that is very real.
• 11:03
  It did happen. Everybody's seen the flight logs of the airplane. To say that none of this is real, it's very odd to me. It's counterintuitive and I don't know the motivations therefore, but you got pictures of the Pam Bonnie and these people holding up folders saying, we got it all, here's the list. And now the list doesn't exist.
• 11:23
  So other than the fact that there's a lot of chaos around, which is how I look at this because in the midst of all this, everybody's distracted and worried about sync case, not that it doesn't deserve attention. But in the meantime, we have artificial intelligence being integrated into our government. The very same program being used, this is Palantir. The very same program used to identify people targets in Gaza and eliminate them, right? It studies them, it assigns a social credit score based on their social media, the conversations, who they hang out with, and then it decides whether they live or die autonomously.
• 12:03
  That is being integrated into our government as we speak, funded by the big beautiful bill. The executives in charge of the tech companies, MITRE, NVIDIA, Palantir, being made lieutenant colonels, that's o fives in the army, meaning that civilian oversight has been shifted aside. This is now a military operation, hardly any different than Operation Warp Street was a military operation. So, here we find ourselves back again in medical martial law, our rights continue to be suspended, if not revoked. And we move down this trail over and over again towards the eradication where species come hell or high water.
• 12:44
  So I I kinda look at this Epstein stuff as a distraction to keep us from focusing on the real issues, which is our survival, Seth.
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly. And and that's it's it's an an interesting point because, like, to me, the Epstein stuff, it's not about it's not about Epstein per se. Right? It's actually that people want justice.
• 13:11
  Right? Like, people want justice as and truth. And as you've mentioned, you know, you mentioned that, you in the court of law, he was found guilty, of, you know, kind of taking advantage of he was he was a predator. Right? He was he was trafficking children.
• 13:26
  Right? Like, there's no two ways around it. And when you look at that and you look at the the the the depth of what he was involved with, but then you also look at Ghislaine Maxwell, You look at her father, who was, you know, very we can openly a Mossad, you know, asset or agent. Right? The shape.
• 13:43
  There you go. And and you start tying these things together, and then you look at it. Oh, so then you have Mossad that comes into it, and then, you know and and not to mention, I mean, Epstein, there's a lot of things. You know? I think there's people that very quickly will say, oh, Epstein's a Mossad agent.
• 13:58
  I I think it's way more complicated than that. I think the CIA, Mossad, I think the five eyes, think a lot of these intelligence agencies. It's it's yeah. It's not as black and white as we as we make it. However, you look at the role of Israel in that.
• 14:11
  You look at the release of the JFK files that did happen. Right? Get you know, try you know, give credit where it's due that we did see that. But, also, you saw that in JFK files, a lot of it did tie in to Israel and to Mossad and to the CIA and and the the kind of incestuous relationship between these al between these agencies. And then you look at, you know, where things are at with The Middle East and Israel and the loyalty a lot of our politicians have to Israel and all this stuff.
• 14:39
  You start looking A lot of them? You start all but one. Well, there you go. Thomas Massey, who now Trump is trying to primary, right, and get rid of. Right?
• 14:47
  The one guy that the only guy.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Seriously. I think he's the only guy that didn't take APEC by and sorry.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Just want Yeah. Yeah. Please do.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Before you move on.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: I I also find it interesting from a timing point of view that you go to the head of the foreign state, maybe that, you know, who goes to the White House and demands the attention of the top level decision makers in Washington DC in the executive branch. And immediately thereafter, we have this change in the whole Epstein paradigm. And and so you raised the subject, and and I appreciate that because it has to be stated, you know, that at the end of the day, our government appears to be largely controlled from Tel Aviv.
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• 17:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, that just is what it is. Right? They're they're all taking money. It's not like this is a secret. I believe that president Trump also took money.
• 17:15
  I'm not accusing him of anything other than the fact that that we should have full disclosure of all of it. And then we can make up our own minds. I just what it bothers me that first we had Chinese embedded in our government. Right? Governors, thousand lights program or thousand talents program.
• 17:35
  Dianne Feinstein with a, you know, Chinese PRC intel guy as her driver amongst others. Well well, I mean, the list goes on and on. We have foreign agents that simply acquired our politicians who come and go, but the permanent bureaucracy never changes. That's the illusion. That's the magic trick is that we're all worried about this illusion of choice who we elect.
• 18:00
  The reality is that those are all chosen for us. It doesn't matter who wins because they're all controlled. And now we can see that, except perhaps Massey, maybe a handful of others. But for the most part, our government, every government is controlled by the permanent bureaucracy. These people are there for thirty or forty years, and and they have their marching orders and their plans.
• 18:20
  So if our politicians are bought, if they're compromised, what makes us think that the permanent bureaucracy are not?
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Well, I wanna pull up a tweet, from David Ike, because I think that this is what something something you're kinda touching on too. So, you know, this is this is back from June 30. So Alex Jones had, or Owen Schroyer had done an analysis saying, has Israel, tapped president Trump's operations to help, manipulate him into reentering the Israel, Iran war? You know, talking about these things, but then David Ike said something.
• 18:55
  I agree with everything he says, but he also I think he he sees things from a very different level, a very kind of broad level. He says there's a he says there's a level way above Trump, Iran, and even Israel that is orchestrating all this and levels above that. They are just pawns. The level of real power, shadow power, the politicking is only theater to control public perception and divert attention. If you don't realize that, then what happens day by day can be bewildering.
• 19:23
  Once you see where the real power is and what its goals are, it suddenly may all make sense. First step, Trump is not being manipulated in anything. He knows his place and does what he's told. And I think that that's it's important because, you know, I I've become I I I've in lot of ways, I've always hated politics, you know, really since I was kind of, you know, college age. I just thought, like, it just you you couldn't trust either side of it.
• 19:50
  And and, you know, I think Trump, you know, kinda brought a lot of fresh air, you know, into the into the situation in 2016, and we saw some big changes and everything. And but I feel like that the the one of the big things that I've seen and come to in the past couple of months is it's like, oh, Seth, you allowed yourself to get pulled back into kinda watching what's happening politically. But actually, like, everything at that level is just theater. And whether it's scripted theater where everyone just saying what they're supposed to say, whatever, or whether it it is it is an unintentional theater, that actually has no real substance, the reality is is that what's actually happening in this world there there's there's I really believe there are levels and levels and levels above Trump. I think that for people to have this idea that this one man can come in because, oh, well, he's worth, what, 6,000,000,000 or 8,000,000,000 or well, yeah, he you know, he's up against families that are worth trillions of dollars that have ruled the world for thousands of years, these bloodlines.
• 20:49
  Right? Just calling it for what it is. Right? Yes. I think that we have to kind of go back to, okay.
• 20:57
  Okay. Do we really have control? And I and I think it's I even look at myself as as being naive to think that he that Trump could come in and dismantle the deep state and just just, you know, get rid of the Federal Reserve and do all these things. It's like, well, that would imply he has a lot of power. I think that I think it would imply that he has much more power than he actually than he really might.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's right. I I think that's exactly right. And maybe he was completely unaware about, you know, how much power he thought that he actually had. You know, deception is the art of Satan.
• 21:31
  Right? And truth is the tool of God. So the the the only way to really survive this and figure it out is to find out what the truth is. And that's why we do what we do. Right?
• 21:40
  In in furtherance of our survival, frankly, is God's creations because that's the fight that we're in. If you look back to the days of Babel, you know, what really angered God was the chimeric changing of God's creations into something different. How is that different from this moment in time today? That was the very argument that I made to the tenth Circuit Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court is, hey, these things are gene modification shots or changing people into a new species. And the sad part is the court had already opined on this and said, yeah, it's fine.
• 22:11
  The new species is owned. So we're back to those same days again, with a slightly It really truly is, Seth. And so, look at the end of the day, I think this is kind of a revelations thing. Every And day we go forward, fighting for the truth to come out is our best weapon and our best hope. Because at least when we do this job, we give people the opportunity to think for themselves.
• 22:38
  Otherwise, they're getting programmed through these devices. They're getting programmed through media and every other lie, right? Including contents in your food supply, your water supply, your air supply. And as we understand the paradigm, example, having been poisoned our whole lives through big pharma, through vaccines, through medicines, all of which have horrible side effects. Chem trails are a thing, right?
• 23:04
  Aerosol injections, now the truth is out. People are trying to do something about it. So when we have the power of the truth, at least we it gives us the empowerment to do something about it and and reject it. Right? Like half the world probably, in in my view, rejected the shots in their own way, including a shout out to Kirk Moore, by the way, who was acquitted.
• 23:24
  I don't know if you know his story, but god
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: love him. Actually, I'm, interviewing him tomorrow, because I interviewed him Jim. Maybe two or three weeks ago. I think we did we did a show together, kinda bringing attention and calling attention to his case and everything. And so now that, you know, he and I had a really special kind of connection, and he reached out and said, Look, you're one of the main people that I wanna give an interview to.
• 23:45
  Beautiful. And I think he might have been actually been meeting with Pam Bondi, this past week. I think that he actually was able to meet with her, so
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, there's another one. I mean, so she was the AG in Florida. Right? When all this stuff unfolded. What I'm trying to say is you see the same people over and over again.
• 24:02
  He's a wonderful result of the truth. And the truth is that this was poison and I have a right. I mean, effectively, it was a defense. I have a right not to poison people. So that's the tools that we have to have because it's freedom of choice.
• 24:17
  It's God gave us really one gift and that is free will, but that's what's being manipulated. Is our free will is being manipulated by being given the whole story. So I think if people maybe sit back a little bit and then they pick up the kernels of truth that just simply are finders of fact, this is what it is, you can reject it all day long. It doesn't change the fact that the truth is here. And if we cling to that, then we can better understand the true paradigm.
• 24:42
  But the reality, Seth, is this. We are in the midst of an eradication program. Our species is being made extinct. It is up to us. Nobody is coming to help us.
• 24:53
  We have to fight for our survival.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and it's interesting because I feel like I'm constantly asking myself, what do we do? Right? What what can we do about this? Right?
• 25:07
  Where do we have control? And you'll see, right, you know, that there's the people that are saying, okay. Hey. We just gotta get out there and and win the midterms or get our guy in the office or you know, there's there's all these different levels of what you can do. And, you know, and I'm I'm also I'm a big believer, obviously, in in preparedness, and it's one the most important things we can do, especially now.
• 25:25
  It's like we we have to be able to kinda figure out more, you know, sustainable off grid living, you know, more resilience. We have more control over our food supply chain. Right? Going from either your backyard or your local farmer to your table is, like, is is is good as it should be. Everyone should be aiming for that.
• 25:42
  So there's that aspect of it, but I also think that when I take the a giant step back, I'm reminded that we, in a lot of ways, are being controlled because we are being lied to so Yes. Deeply. And I think that the greatest lie, actually, is the lie that covers up who we really are as human beings. And that and that, like, the the the the that we truly are made in in God's in God's image, and that we are divine. That, like, we are extremely powerful spiritual beings, right, with God inside of us.
• 26:21
  Right? That and when we and when we when we tap into our faith and we tap into the wisdom that's buried deep inside of us, an ancient wisdom that God gave us, it's still there. Like, that that that's actually what I think the the most important thing that we can do. But I think that to tap into that, like, it's like almost like if there's a ladder that allows us to climb back up that place, that ladder is tradition and morality and virtue. Right.
• 26:48
  And that we have to be focused on climbing that ladder and and and climbing and getting back to living a virtuous life, right, as a as a human being, right, as God intended. And and the more we do that because you can see that that's where the evil extracts their power. It's through the chaos and confusion and through the separation of who we are, like, the the lies of even the origin of of our of our of of man. Right? Like, our our real history.
• 27:14
  Like, I I because I've you know? And I I love diving into this stuff, getting into, like, some of the, you Tartaria and the the hidden technology and old civilizations that have been covered up and the wisdom. And they've taught us that the old the the ancients were were stupid, you know, Neanderthals, and that we're the most advanced because we can send rockets to the moon, but it's the opposite. Right? And that's what I think is is really important for humanity to go back to that is that Really?
• 27:38
  Like, we're still here. Right? As much as they're trying to exterminate us, we're still here because God wants us here, because he has a purpose for us here.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Beautiful. I I think that was actually beautifully stated, and you're absolutely right in every respect. I also am a huge fan of OOP arts, out of place artifacts. Yeah. Because they exist.
• 27:58
  It's factual. They, you know, they dig something out of a 300,000,000 year old deposit of coal. It is there. It does exist. Lots of news reports about giants of the past.
• 28:08
  And as you as you look at these things, you come to understand the biblical references, because they tie in. They really truly do and it's beautiful. So I would say, I would add to everything you just said, because I see it exactly the same way. The most powerful word in the English language, most every other language says it similarly, that is no. We are being deceived into compliance.
• 28:31
  And so when the answer is no, I'm not going to do your digital ID. No, I'm not taking your stupid shot. No, I'm not taking your central bank digital currency. The power note, because there are so many of us, they cannot control us unless they fool us into a certain set of behaviors that benefits them. So the answer is no.
• 28:50
  And I think rejecting the system, my God, it's gotta be four years ago now, 25,000,000 people had opted out of the whole taxing system and being used as collateral for the national debt. That's beautiful, it must be twice that by now. It's that kind of non compliance, that rejection. We're not doing this, we're just not gonna do it. So I'm with you a 100%, but we need to exercise that power of no school boards, where you gotta have your shots.
• 29:20
  Nope, and I see this a lot now. Fact, I saw a study earlier this week, the religious freedom complaints, effectively exemptions from childhood vaccine schedule requirements are twice what they were only a year ago. People are finding their faith and they're demonstrating it and saying, I'm not taking your stupid shit. I'm not giving it to my kid because it violates my religious beliefs. How beautiful is that?
• 29:46
  A 100% change in a year, people are finding their careers, they find their voice. The power of no is tremendous, particularly against these permanent bureaucrats, who love the security of their long term employment. They love that paycheck guaranteed by the government. They do a minimum amount of work and all they gotta do is enforce some stupid tick the box laws without thinking. That's the problem.
• 30:11
  The way I see it is this, when government provides 50% or more of the employment in any society, it is no longer a capitalist system. It's no longer a free market economy. And we're right at that 50% between state, city, local, county, blah, blah, blah. So, we have to be on guard and people have to figure out their own moral code. Are you going to enforce a moral law?
• 30:34
  And by example, an extension from a judicial perspective. I've seen judges hold lawyers and others in contempt of court for even mentioning the words jury nullification. A jury has an absolute right to say that the law is unjust and for that reason, we're not gonna convict anybody. If juries find their courage, if people find their courage, we can nullify all of these things that are unconstitutional and anti human.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly. And I think that I think that, you know, one of the part of this in in in taking a a step back is looking at and I've I've been working on show about this for quite some time now that I'm still just, you know, piecing together. But that there are cycles and events that are well beyond the control of the so called elites. And that there seems to be a lot that points to something happening around the the 2027 to 2030 timeline as it relates to a pole shift or something.
• 31:33
  Like, and if you look at a lot like, lot what a lot of the, again, the so called elites are doing, the land that they're buying, the bunkers that they're building, the, the clock that Bezos has built. I'm sure you've you've seen the the clock that he's built, which is strange. If you then you look at you look at that, then you look at this push for AI and for this, you know, building of the database of the human knowledge, right, to help humanity survive on, the the seed vaults, you know, you look at all these things that are happening, and this is something I've I've come to recently is that that there's something much bigger that's happening here that the, you know, these these elites are are frightened of. Right? Like, they're they're they're either trying to, like, build rockets to go off planet, or they're building bunkers, or they're making preparations.
• 32:22
  And but to me, all that all that shows you is that they're not actually in control and that there's a timeline. Right? Like, look at the flood. Like, look at go back to, again, you know, we mentioned the days of Noah. Go back to that time when evil was running rampant.
• 32:39
  There was, I believe at that time that there was a a crossing of of human DNA with fallen angel DNA, with Nephilim DNA, and there was a, a a destruction of of the seed of man that was happening at that time. There was rampant evil, and, you know, Noah knew. Right? He was told. And I think he spent, what, a hundred years.
• 32:58
  Right? Right. You know, building building an ark. At that time, you know, he lived to be eight eight hundred years old or something like that. Right?
• 33:05
  So but there's there there are there are things that are beyond what the the the controllers even have control over. And I think that that's I think that this is where we're at in the stage of history, is we're we're approaching something like this in in history.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I see it the same way. You know, from the beginning of this fight, five years ago or so, I've been haunted by Matthew. I think it's thirteen thirty eight passage, but it's the with the wheat and the tares. You just let the wheat grow up with the the tares to figure out which is the wheat and which is the food, and the great harvest is coming. And it literally, it haunts me, and it has.
• 33:42
  So I see it the exact same way. Whatever event is coming, I'm not afraid of it. I'm good with God, I'm good with what's happened on life, on this planet. It will be what it will be, but I'm not gonna run and hide. I mean, the reality is this, life is terminal and it's also hazardous to your health.
• 34:04
  Given that the outcome is the same, we are all going to die, the question only becomes, how do you want to live your life and how do you want to die? And I'll die fighting for our species, fighting for my kids, grandkids at some point, I hope. But that's the point, is it? Not what do we have to lose is really the question, Seth.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly. And so given that there are all of these distractions and I know and this is one thing in in terms of Epstein. It's like, you could say, yeah. It is a distraction.
• 34:36
  Right? But but it's not a distraction from, you know, the the win of having Coca Cola go back for to cane sugar instead of, you know, you know, high fructose corn syrup. Those are all distractions also. But I think a lot of stuff, even the the politicking, right, this they are distractions from the much bigger things that are happening. And I do think that one of the, you know and I'd like I'd like to see what your thoughts are, but I think that one of the greatest existential threats that, you know, that we have right now as as a species is the is robots and artificial intelligence.
• 35:09
  Like, I do think that, like, you know, as Elon Musk, I think he said, he said it's summoning the demon, or as Leo Zagami refers to as cyber Satan. Right? I do think that that's something that fits into this overall picture. It it does fit into, I think, some of these these more apocalyptic type ideas of what's happening with the world. Why are the elites, you know, so rapidly trying to advance AI in the robot race?
• 35:34
  Are they, you know, is there gonna be some sort of mass die off event that they predict that's gonna happen, that they're gonna need to have a a robot force to kind of replace the humans that don't make it through? I mean, there's there's that whole angle, which is kind of a rabbit hole in and of itself, but also just looking at what's happening with the development of AI. And that's something that concerns me, greatly, actually. Concern I'm I'm I'm way more concerned about AI than I am Epstein. Right?
• 36:00
  As much as I wanna have Epstein come out, and I wanna see who the perpetrators are, and I wanna have justice, and, of course, it's a given, but I'm worried about where the direction the AI is going, especially if it's left unchecked.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's so true. So let me let me add to your calculus. A few things to keep in mind, first and foremost, right? We already know genetic manipulation is a thing. Let us recall the taxonomy of a human homo sapiens sapiens is defined as quote unquote, a species to be experimented upon.
• 36:33
  If I haven't sent it to you, I'll send it to you again, put it in the show notes because that is a fact, right? That's the definition. We are a species to be experimented upon, which then begs the question, who's doing the experimentation? I think it goes to your point that there is a different species, an older one, whatever, where we've been manipulated for thousands of years. We are livestock to them.
• 36:53
  So what do you do when your herd of cows gets too big, you call the herd or maybe you switch to sheep or whatever else. And then now we see that they're they've taken procreation out of the hands of man. Right? So now you get three people donated DNA to create eight eight babies that are now on this planet. Those are artificial, you know, artificially created people.
• 37:17
  They were genetically engineered. We don't know genetically engineered to be what other than they were genetically engineered to be something other than God's creation. Right? Man and a woman create babies, God's creation. Right?
• 37:30
  That's the divinity inside of us. Now you got science creating genetically modified beings that are not God's creation. And and so when you see that there's a whole division in health and human services, it's called the synbio division, stands for synthetic biology, and their job is to genetically manipulate every plant, animal species on this planet. What they're doing is changing this planet from God's creation to their own creation. And they are and no Harari talks about it.
• 37:59
  We are becoming gods through genetic manipulation. And that goes hand in hand with the AI that you talked about. They don't need humanity anymore as a slave class because that's what we've been. Now they have everything that they need to do it without us. We're now a nuisance because we have a habit of saying no and thinking for ourselves.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Yes. I wonder if that's part of it, actually, to is is creating a more compliant race. Because I think that that's actually one of the if you if you look at this and if you are trying to understand this battle of good and evil, right, or this battle that's happening, you know, for me, at least, I'm sure you're this you know, based on our conversations, you're in the same boat. You you get to the place where you realize, wow. It's just a battle of good versus evil.
• 38:46
  It is a battle of the angels and the warriors of light that are trying their best to represent God and God's will and virtue and justice up against, Satan's minions. Right? And okay. So you get there, but then you realize that but they don't have God on their side. If that's the if that's the case, it's like our general actually kicked their general out of heaven.
• 39:11
  Right? So it's like, well, who who's really the general that's in charge here? But I do believe, though, that the one of the things that God gave us is free will. Right? As you mentioned, the most powerful word that we have in this fight is no.
• 39:24
  Right? We have the ability to say, I'm not going to do that. I will not comply. I will not send my kids off to your schools. I will not watch your your degenerate TV programs.
• 39:33
  I will not inject myself with your with your, you know, g and a DNA modifying technology. You know, I'm not gonna do that, but you can see that maybe that's part of it is actually, and I've seen that. I saw that with a lot of the people, you know, kind of diagnosing and looking at, okay, what are the real effects of the COVID vaccine? That they saw mental changes, actually. They saw people, even kind of in in essence, I saw a lot of people talking about how they felt like they got cut off from God.
• 39:59
  It's interesting. Right? The sensation or the feeling of not hearing God talk to them anymore. And I think that that's actually what they're trying to do is to create a race of beings that at the genetic level is no longer connected to God. And I think that they because I think that that's the only way think that they think they can win is to cut us off like that.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Well, they did. They did. So you may recall, you know, part of the evidence that we put into the record, we served Lloyd Austin before he issued the order, was the military's very own study. They did a study on forty four thousand service members and their families using the COVID shots. One hundred and seventy eight people finished the clinical trial out of forty four thousand.
• 40:38
  Only one hundred and seventy eight finished it. But of those that showed up to the clinical trial, they went home with twelve ninety one new diseases they didn't go to the trial with. The very first and most significant serious adverse event, otherwise known as a side effect, was the 1P36 gene deletion syndrome. That's a genetic trait. It's passed on genetically.
• 41:02
  Somehow it was a side effect of the shots. That gene regulates your frontal cortex and your executive function. And what we found in the military because we were tracking it was pilots couldn't get through the training. They couldn't get it through the programs to become pilots because they couldn't think. They couldn't reason.
• 41:19
  So when you talk about, you know, effectively zaps and zombies, this is what we're talking about.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Actually, I'll read this real quick. Says that the 1P36 deletion syndrome is a disorder that typically causes intellectual disabilities. Most affected individuals do not speak or speak only a few words. They may have temper tantrums, bite themselves, or exhibit other behavior problems. Most have structural abnormalities of the brain, and seizures occur in more than half of individuals with this disorder.
• 41:47
  Affected individuals usually have weak muscle tone and difficulty swallowing. Yeah, interesting. So this was
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: a side effect of the shots. The single most, the very first side effects cited was that. And so how is it that a congenital disease happens as a side effect of a shot, other than by genetic manipulation? It's genetic deletion. They deleted the gene that regulates your frontal cortex, then we wonder why it is people's brains are atrophying.
• 42:21
  And by the way, out of those twelve ninety one diseases, one third of those were genetic diseases caused by the shots. And this study was by Pfizer, the DOD and the FDA. They all did it together. And they did it a year in advance of rolling out the shots. In other words, I put in the Lloyd Austin's hands before he issued the order, his own study saying, hey, if you do this, you're gonna frag your troops.
• 42:48
  By the way, one of the serious side effects was death. Death and disability and we watched the numbers grow. Know this, Seth. What I'm trying to say is that it is a plan and it's taken five years for humanity to understand that this has been a plan for a very long time. And we are neck deep in the middle of an eradication program and extinction level event.
• 43:14
  Then it's only now that humanity is embracing the truth. I just pray it isn't too late. It's like, wake up, smell the coffee, get with the program here. You better start exercising your free will or otherwise we're all gone. As long as we have the numbers, Seth, and I think really only half the the world got these shots or more than one shot for that matter.
• 43:37
  I think we got a we got a chance, but it really takes humanity putting aside the divisiveness. It's so easy to goat us into divisions through, well, that person's got green hair, or that person's black, or whatever the case is. We're so easily manipulated, and if we can just remember we are all God's creations. Right? At at the end of the day, it's a brotherhood of humanity.
• 44:00
  We bind together in that solidarity and put together puts aside all the rest of this crap. We have a fighting chance. But until that happens, as long as we stay divided, they will win.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And that's why I think that doing the having these conversations conversations is so important. Because if you look at if you look at the amount of division, like, even it's crazy. Like, somewhere back in 2020, that there was really it was kind of your own one or two well, you're there's two teams. Right?
• 44:30
  There was the the pro Trump and the anti Trump, right, in back in 2020. And, you know, but the people that were that were pro Trump, that were cheering on the the audits, the cyber symposium, the Maricopa audit, there was such a unified base that was behind Trump that was Yes. Fighting for election integrity. I mean, people really came together, and they they had this sense that, you know, there was a coup, and that our our country our our government has been overthrown, and and, you know, it's probably related to China and and other foreign hostile nations. But if you look at fast forward now to where we are now, if if that was one group that was just kind of like the MAGA conservatives, you know, like, constitutionalists, etcetera, you probably think your 401 K is safe, that it's growing, that it'll be enough for your retirement.
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• 46:36
  I think that now that's that's splintered into 20 different groups. You've got the pro Israel, the anti Israel. You've got the, you know, Trump is a good guy. Trump is the antichrist. You've got like, it's it's splintered into so many groups now that it's like, you know, before, we're we're just divided, know, left and right.
• 46:55
  But now the divisions, it's like they now they they've put us in and there's 30 different buckets. It's like, okay. Well, what what are you? What group are you on? It's like, okay.
• 47:02
  I'm anti vaxx, pro Trump, this, that, or the other. It's like, okay. You got, like, six different criteria, pro Israel. The next guy is anti vaxx, anti Trump, pro Palestine, anti Israel. You know, like, like, it's just like there's there's all these different boxes now that people have become so divided.
• 47:26
  But I think that, you know, what's happening, though, is like you mentioned chaos and order out of chaos, is I think that they just there there is so much chaos now that people don't know which way to look, like, way is up. It's like you're spinning underwater. You have you're trying to go to the surface, but you have no idea where the surface even is.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's good. So, that's it. I think that's exactly right. It's it's shattering our consciousness trying to to make us malleable.
• 47:51
  It it yeah. Yeah. I see it exactly the same way. But I guess this is the point then, isn't it? So that we you know, love your fellow humans because at the end of the day, we are really truly all the same.
• 48:04
  And I when you're going through that that list, it made me think of the LBGTQRS TV thing. What a bunch of nonsense. At the end of the day, who freaking cares? Why why does that matter anyway? It again, it's a distraction, and it it creates chaos.
• 48:22
  You know? Why would we give a crap about what exists? I don't care. Do whatever you're gonna do, man. Feel what I mean.
• 48:29
  So I'm glad you said that. It's that putting us into these these buckets naturally would create division, us versus them, and that's what's gotta stop.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: And and I think that one of the one of the solutions that I see is just not identifying with a group. Like, that's the thing. It's like it's like I'm not in a bucket. Good. Like, I'm I'm in team humanity.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I'm in a bucket.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Right? Like like like what group am I I'm I'm of the group of be a good person. Like, follow, you know, follow God. You know, live a moral life. Return back to tradition.
• 49:01
  Raise your children well. And and that's, like, that's what we have control over. Right? Because it does it's like it's not like
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, here's my group, and my group's gonna save the world. It's like, no. No. Like, the people that will save the world are the ones that step away from all the chaos they've created. Right?
• 49:17
  But it's not easy because that chaos is addictive. It pulls you in. You look at Twitter. You get on Twitter. It's like, oh, this Laura Loomer versus Tucker Carlson versus this person, and, you know, David Ike's calling out Alex Jones, and Alex Jones is calling out Joe Rogan, and Joe Rogan's doing this.
• 49:31
  And it's just like, oh my goodness. What's going on? It's it's just it's like, okay. Take a step back. Yes.
• 49:37
  Maybe listen to that Calm Man in America podcast. Yeah. Just do your thing.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Wait. And and I love this. It's and what you said is so beautiful and true. Yeah.
• 49:48
  I'm I'm with you. A 100%. It's step back and and then let the the melee happen. I mean, again, it goes back to the bible. The meek shall inherit the earth.
• 49:58
  That's what I was thinking as you're talking about it.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And so do you have hope amidst all this? I know it's not as easy these days to find it, but do you have hope? And if so, where's it where's it from?
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I I got tons of hope because first and foremost, we're we're still here. We weren't supposed to be. The eradication process started circa 2020, and we are still here, Seth. We're both raising up kids and there are other kids being born. I see them all around.
• 50:27
  That was not in the plans. And yet I see people finding their way, despite losing their jobs or whatever else, they're finding a way. We've been so cowed over our whole lives into fitting into what really is a Soviet model economy. You will be this, you'll get this education over here, you do that. And then people are rejecting at wholesale.
• 50:48
  They're growing food in their backyard. They're saying, no, I don't want my fake meat from the grocery store. I'll go over here to farmer Brown. I love that because it's taking our dominion back. And I think that's a beautiful thing and I do have a lot of hope.
• 51:03
  I also, you know, I see people on the inside, Seth. Let's not forget there is a permanent bureaucracy that governs things that do have an effect on us, whether that's our water supply or electricity or whatever, rules that are enforced at the end of the day with guns. I'm seeing a lot of people starting to think for themselves, whether that's law enforcement or people in medicine or people in government that are just going, Yeah, no, I don't think I'm gonna do that. And it's slowing the whole program down. And you said it a while ago, you see a big event happening towards the end of this decade.
• 51:40
  I do too, I've seen it referenced in many places that effectively the owner class have until 12/29/2029 to finish their job of eradicating us. Don't know what happens if they don't. All I know is that that's some deadline that they're trying to meet. And every day that we survive is glory. Every day that we survive brings more hope because it actually means what you said, God is our general.
• 52:04
  We're actually winning this thing in a very strange way simply by surviving. So if we can run out the clock, we win. Either way, we win. Right? We're either going to die fighting for humanity's right to exist or we're going to cease exist anyway.
• 52:21
  It doesn't matter. Either way, we win as God's creations.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: And I think that we that we have to survive, and I also think that along with that, what it means to be human has to survive. Because if if we survive it, we lose our humanity.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Beautiful.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: And and we turn into complete heathens, and and and there's no morality. There's no virtue. There's no tradition, and and we cast it all out, then we haven't survived, even even if our physical bodies are still here. And that's why I think it's so important for us to preserve these things, preserve these traditions. And and if if we've lost them, we'll then go back to them.
• 52:55
  Right? I think a lot of us have become very rootless. Our families have been broken up and moved across the country and across the world. Well, let's let's let's let's bring that back into focus again, and let's make let's let's make sure that civility and morality and virtue, these are things that we are making sure they survive within the realm that we have control over.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: I think that's magnificent. And I find that to be by itself very hopeful. So if you look back at history, people conquering this and conquering that, always was a divisive means when it didn't have to be. And I know you're a student of China and history, and if you look at when the Mongolians raided China, the emperor said, Absorb them. And don't fight them, absorb them.
• 53:39
  They'll become Chinese. And he was right. And they did. So it goes back kinda towards your your model, you know, which is embrace humanity and let's find a way through it. I I love what you're saying because when you look at Hollywood and their, you know, post apocalyptic scene, it's always, you know, bands of roving people fighting each other, yeah, which is not what exactly.
• 54:01
  But in reality, what we all know is that in order to survive well on this planet, it requires the use and participation of other humans. That's why there are colonies and there are states. Right? We need each other. And so this is a really important part to what it is you're saying.
• 54:18
  I think it's beautiful.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. Actually, I've got I've got my book coming out, Prepped Like Noah, just for people that know, so it's still it's still on its way, but but part of what slowed down is that and I won't give any too many details now, but I'm building something along with it that's gonna be that's gonna, I think, kinda serve that purpose of really bringing a lot of people together. And that's that's one of because that's kind of this, I guess, you can get an enlightenment in the process of, like, wow. Like, actually, to to really survive and be prepared, we we need community, and we need a way to build and strengthen community and and to find the right people. And so, anyway, so I I won't kinda tease it too much, because I've I've mistakenly done it in the past.
• 54:55
  It's like, okay, Seth, where is it at? You know, so it's coming, though.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: It is. I'm excited about it, and I want I just wanted to add back in into what you said, because when I first moved into The Caribbean, there was no OECD. There was no welfare. There was no It didn't exist. We had blue laws and you couldn't do liquor on the weekends and everything closed down.
• 55:16
  And we had People didn't beg on the streets. They didn't exist. Drug problems like that. I mean, people were looked after by their family and the church, not the state. When the one world government knows the OECD came in to every country and started making the state the church.
• 55:34
  They they eliminated the Christian council in this particular country, whereby no legislation could be passed unless it was godly. It was the first order of business. Everything went to crap after that. So your book sounds like the guiding principle of community in the way that it used to work, the way that it should work. We looked after each other.
• 55:53
  Right? That was our mandate, and it was a better place.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: It was. It was. Well, Todd, I think this this is this is the right place to kinda conclude our conversation on this Sure. This upward trajectory of hope for the future, but not hope and faith in the government, not hope and faith in a political party or any of that. Just just kind of hope hope and faith in the fact that God has given us what we need, and that Yeah.
• 56:17
  We we have to go back to that, and that's the way forward. That's how I live my life the the best that I can, and I know that is the same for you and your life.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. And the power of no.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: I you
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: know, it's it's really the truth. I I know I'm not doing what you want me to do because it's a bunch of nonsense. Yeah. It's beautiful. I can't wait for your book to come out.
• 56:35
  I won't pester you, but I I wanna know. So it'll be on the first copy.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: I'll I'll set it aside for you. Todd, thank you. Take care, and god bless you and your family.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: God bless you and yours, brother. It's really good to be here. Thank you.
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