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How AI Helped Anthony Dahya Rebuild His Life After 4 Redundancies · Willow Healing Matters Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: Hey everyone,
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it's Catherine Crestani with another episode of Willow Healing
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Matters and today I
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SPEAKER_01: am joined by Anthony Dyer.
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So he is the founder of AI Workflows Agency and the host of the
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Champion Mindset
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SPEAKER_01: Collective podcast,
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SPEAKER_01: which is how we met.
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SPEAKER_01: based in Auckland and helps New Zealand businesses,
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SPEAKER_01: leaders,
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founders and non-technical teams turn AI from a confusing
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buzzword into practical
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SPEAKER_01: business results.
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As an AI and workflow automation consultant and fractional
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chief AI officer,
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SPEAKER_01: he works with businesses
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SPEAKER_01: to simplify operations,
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SPEAKER_01: automate repetitive tasks,
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SPEAKER_01: improve workflows,
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SPEAKER_01: and create more freedom for business owners and their teams.
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SPEAKER_01: His approach is practical and human.
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SPEAKER_01: Start with the real business problem first,
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SPEAKER_01: then apply AI and automation in a way that supports growth,
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SPEAKER_01: clarity,
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SPEAKER_01: and better ways of working.
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SPEAKER_01: Through his AI workflows agency,
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SPEAKER_01: Anthony supports businesses with AI strategy,
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SPEAKER_01: workflow automation,
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SPEAKER_01: and
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Business Process Improvement Change Management and Practical
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Implementation and
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SPEAKER_01: it's built on the idea of automate,
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SPEAKER_01: optimize,
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SPEAKER_01: freedom and helping people work smarter,
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SPEAKER_01: scale faster and reclaim time for what matters most.
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SPEAKER_01: And I know from running a business how important this is as well.
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SPEAKER_01: And alongside this,
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SPEAKER_01: through the Champion Mindset Collective Podcast,
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SPEAKER_01: Anthony has meaningful conversations with business owners,
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SPEAKER_01: entrepreneurs,
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SPEAKER_01: leaders,
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SPEAKER_01: coaches,
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SPEAKER_01: authors,
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SPEAKER_01: and people who have overcome major life and career challenges.
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SPEAKER_01: The podcast explores mindset,
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SPEAKER_01: resilience,
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SPEAKER_01: leadership,
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SPEAKER_01: personal growth,
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SPEAKER_01: business transformation,
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SPEAKER_01: AI,
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SPEAKER_01: productivity,
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SPEAKER_01: and what it means to live with a champion mindset.
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Anthony's own journey has strongly shaped the way he leads and
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serves others.
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SPEAKER_01: Having experienced career transitions,
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SPEAKER_01: restructures,
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SPEAKER_01: redundancy,
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SPEAKER_01: rejection,
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SPEAKER_01: and personal challenge,
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SPEAKER_01: he brings a real human element to his work.
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SPEAKER_01: He believes technology can help business grow,
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SPEAKER_01: but mindset,
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SPEAKER_01: clarity,
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SPEAKER_01: courage,
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SPEAKER_01: and leadership are what help people move through with purpose.
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SPEAKER_01: So a big welcome to the show,
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SPEAKER_01: Anthony,
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and I'm excited to unpack your journey because I know it is a
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big one that's led
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SPEAKER_01: you to where you are today.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, thank you so much Catherine.
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SPEAKER_02: It's great to be here and yeah,
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it's a very big journey full of twists and turns and ups and
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downs and lots of
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SPEAKER_02: speed bumps and hurdles and along the way,
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SPEAKER_02: yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, whose life isn't like that?
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SPEAKER_02: Everyone's.
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SPEAKER_02: It's how you take it though, it's how you perceive it, right?
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SPEAKER_02: It's happening for us, not to us.
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A hundred percent and I'm glad you brought that up because and
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it does become our
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story right that we share and it's interesting because the
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episode that has come
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out just before yours by the time people are listening to this
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we talk about how
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your story is what makes you unique so I feel this is such a
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beautiful segue into
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what you do not only bringing people's stories and unique and
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you know through your
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podcast but also how you allow people to express themselves
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through their business
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SPEAKER_01: by making it easier with AR
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_01: So my first question is,
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SPEAKER_01: how did you come to stepping out of the world that you were living in,
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SPEAKER_01: for a better lack of explaining that,
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SPEAKER_01: and then becoming,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: this advocate of creating,
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SPEAKER_01: optimizing,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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making life easier so you can have more freedom and time and
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doing what you love?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_02: well,
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SPEAKER_02: look,
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I started my journey in corporate world and I've been in
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technology probably 30,
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SPEAKER_02: 25,
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SPEAKER_02: 30 years in technology.
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And,
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you know,
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as you know,
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in corporate world,
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they are quite slow and change and so on.
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SPEAKER_02: And I always found that I was kind of like way ahead.
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SPEAKER_02: Like my brain is almost like Elon Musk.
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SPEAKER_02: I tend to
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you know like 100 miles ahead of everyone else and then the
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people get overwhelmed
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so that was a bit of a challenge but like I saw how
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inefficiencies could impact the
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productivity but also not just the productivity but also your
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self-esteem and who
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you are as a person and your identity right because you know
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you're constantly
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SPEAKER_02: banging your head against a brick wall because
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SPEAKER_02: You can't move forward.
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SPEAKER_02: And I just got sick of that.
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SPEAKER_02: And for me, it was a journey of 24 restructures and four redundancies.
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SPEAKER_02: And obviously there was a pattern appearing there, right?
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And there was like over that 25 years and going through those
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24 restructures,
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SPEAKER_02: which had a big impact in terms of my childhood,
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SPEAKER_02: which I can talk about as well.
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But like those restructures showed me that there was a bit of a
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pattern appearing.
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and the time was getting shorter and shorter in between those
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redundancies.
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SPEAKER_02: So for me,
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SPEAKER_02: the last one,
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SPEAKER_02: which was in 2024,
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SPEAKER_02: was the one that kind of,
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SPEAKER_02: I guess,
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pushed me into or gave me the realization that I'm not meant to
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be doing this
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SPEAKER_02: anymore.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm meant to be actually working for myself.
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So then with AI coming on the scene,
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I mean,
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AI has been around since the 60s,
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but
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SPEAKER_02: Since AI actually became more available to businesses,
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SPEAKER_02: I thought,
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SPEAKER_02: well,
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SPEAKER_02: small,
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SPEAKER_02: medium businesses could benefit from this.
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And so what I did is I decided to start my AI workflows
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business agency to help
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SPEAKER_02: small,
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SPEAKER_02: medium businesses work smarter and not harder.
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SPEAKER_01: Technology.
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SPEAKER_01: I love that journey too, because, you know, it highlights how
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I feel if you hadn't come to that realization you would have
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just kept in that
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cycle of redundancies and restructures and that you know and
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this is where I say to
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people look at the signs in your life because the universe will
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keep turning them
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up and like you said it kept getting quicker and quicker and
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quicker because
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they're like oh my goodness he still hasn't got the message he
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still hasn't got the
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message he still hasn't got the message oh yes he's got the
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message and then yeah
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SPEAKER_02: yeah well to get to give you context the first one was in Twitter and
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The second one was in 2019 The third one was in 2023 And then
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the fourth one was in
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SPEAKER_02: 2024 Three months into the role Yeah,
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SPEAKER_01: yeah
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right yeah and this is this is three months into a role in a
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council organization
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so for anyone tuning in from America overseas basically in
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Australia and New
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Zealand I feel it's the same if you get a role in council
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you're pretty much set
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you know it's a job for life it's a job for life it's really
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hard to get fired
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SPEAKER_01: unless you really really stuff up you know and you can you can sit there
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SPEAKER_01: comfortably get beautiful benefits like it's a very cushy
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SPEAKER_01: Cushy Position.
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So the fact that that role got made redundant is really
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interesting in terms of,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: and you would have gone in with that mindset too,
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SPEAKER_01: right,
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SPEAKER_01: Anthony?
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SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, I'm set.
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SPEAKER_01: I've got this job.
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SPEAKER_01: This is amazing.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm working for council.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm done.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, this is it.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm ready.
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Yes and no,
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because I actually went in during a redundancy,
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during a restructure.
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SPEAKER_02: and then I came out the other end through another restructure.
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SPEAKER_02: But the thing is,
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SPEAKER_02: I knew that,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: having gone through it so many times,
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I knew that the times were that basically businesses were going
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to go through a lot
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SPEAKER_02: of this over and over and over and over again.
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But for me also was the fact that,
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did I really want to work for someone anymore?
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SPEAKER_02: Or do I actually want to, because I'm 55 now, so I was like,
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SPEAKER_02: I don't want to be sitting in my deathbed at some time in the future,
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SPEAKER_02: looking back and going,
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't back myself and I didn't believe myself.
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SPEAKER_02: So for me, it was like, okay, this is the last straw.
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SPEAKER_02: It's time for me to build something for myself.
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SPEAKER_02: And so I did.
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SPEAKER_02: And,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: like having the two brands,
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SPEAKER_02: I can talk more about this,
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SPEAKER_02: but having the two brands,
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SPEAKER_02: I had to then also work out.
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SPEAKER_02: How do I integrate these two brands together so that I'm not running two
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SPEAKER_02: businesses,
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SPEAKER_02: but I'm actually,
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SPEAKER_02: they're actually integrated businesses,
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SPEAKER_02: yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_01: and so that they,
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SPEAKER_01: you don't feel like you have to keep stepping into different roles,
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SPEAKER_01: jumping between the two,
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SPEAKER_01: right?
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You want it more integrative and collaborative rather than
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separate things.
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And I love too that you have created the AI to work for you on
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your podcast and your brand.
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SPEAKER_01: As much,
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it's like the perfect example of how your technology can
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support you in doing
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SPEAKER_01: whatever you're passionate about as well.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_02: well,
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SPEAKER_02: as you know,
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SPEAKER_02: as a podcaster,
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SPEAKER_02: and most people who go into podcasting think that it's a sweet job,
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SPEAKER_02: it's a sweet thing,
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SPEAKER_02: and you're going to have a lot of fun,
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SPEAKER_02: which you do.
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SPEAKER_02: But most people don't realize how much work happens behind the scenes.
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SPEAKER_02: And for me, the way I work is I hold myself to quite high standards.
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And so it would take me almost a whole day to release an
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episode,
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eight hours or more.
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SPEAKER_02: And then what I did is I thought to myself early,
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SPEAKER_02: late last year,
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SPEAKER_02: was that now that we've got AI on the scene,
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SPEAKER_02: how can I systemize and how can I automate some of these things
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SPEAKER_02: so that I'm not spending as much time.
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So I ended up building my website through Lovable.ai and I
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ended up automating and
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SPEAKER_02: systemizing all of that stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: Now it takes me less than a quarter of the time to release an episode.
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SPEAKER_02: The longest thing that takes me is the actual editing.
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SPEAKER_02: And thanks to Riverside,
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it actually makes it so much easier because last year using
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Filmora Wondershare,
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SPEAKER_02: I would spend a couple of hours at least
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but with the tools available it's so much easier and then doing
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simple things like
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integrating your YouTube channel to your website so you don't
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have to manually go
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and copy and paste stuff you just literally open the thing and
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select a video you
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want and it automatically puts it in so there's a whole lot of
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systemization even
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SPEAKER_02: my guesting process so
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SPEAKER_02: As you know,
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SPEAKER_02: getting a guest on board,
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SPEAKER_02: you have to go back and forth with emails and a whole lot of stuff,
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SPEAKER_02: right?
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SPEAKER_02: You came through my guesting process.
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SPEAKER_02: What was your experience?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, everything was done pretty much in the one email.
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SPEAKER_01: It was like one and done kind of thing.
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SPEAKER_01: So it was just easy.
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SPEAKER_01: And I guess this is where,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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and it's interesting for me from developing my podcasting form
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of what I get from
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SPEAKER_01: people.
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I slowly started adding more things from learning like actually
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no that'd be really
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handy to have the person's phone number so I can text them if I
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drop out or if they
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they can't connect you know or be really handy to have this
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information from them
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and now just talking to you from before I'm like oh yeah maybe
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I should get put a
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SPEAKER_01: section where they can upload their headshot
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
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SPEAKER_01: so all these kinds of things come from it,
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SPEAKER_01: but you just put it all in the one package so it's done.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like, oh yeah, here it is.
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SPEAKER_02: And there was two reasons for that.
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SPEAKER_02: One was to simplify the process for the guest,
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but then also simplify and reduce the time that it takes me to
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do all that stuff.
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And what I've got on my side is a whole guesting management
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system that I've built.
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SPEAKER_02: And so when you submit a form, it automatically appears in there.
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I can then go after the discovery call I can then go push the
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approve button and
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you get an email saying you've been approved you go to that
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link fill out the
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information now all of the information that you provide gets
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gets restored and then
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repurposed for when the show notes get created when the script
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gets created so all
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of that stuff uses the information that you provided to me so I
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was like I don't
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want to just have information for the sake of having
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information but I want to use
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SPEAKER_02: it in some shape or form so
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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and I love the unique way that you present each of your guests
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through your podcast
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SPEAKER_01: as well.
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Every guest,
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every episode has an episode page with all the guest details.
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SPEAKER_02: It has the episode information,
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SPEAKER_02: it has the videos,
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it has an article that's written from the transcript and also
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the transcript gets
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converted or distilled down into a three to four page practical
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guide that you can
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SPEAKER_02: actually download and start to apply those principles in your life.
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so how many times have you listened to an episode and you've
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forgotten everything
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that was said on there but imagine being able to download this
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three-page guide and
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be able to go how can I put this into practice now so I can
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then go through the
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change and actually become the better version of me yeah yeah
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which is amazing with
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all the AI that you use how do you not lose yourself within the
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AI so I've built a
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SPEAKER_02: brain that my second brain effectively thank you just like
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SPEAKER_01: Hang on, you're counteracting the question there.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: So within my platform,
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SPEAKER_02: because I mean,
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SPEAKER_02: most people will think my championmindsetcollective.com is a website.
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SPEAKER_02: On the front side of the front end of it, it is a website.
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SPEAKER_02: But in the back end, there is so much automation, so much context for AI.
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SPEAKER_02: So when Gemini in the back end is doing something for me,
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it's actually referencing a brain and it's referencing
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information about me and my
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voice so when it crafts it it knows exactly how to so for
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example let's take a
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script for an episode right I've now got a drop down list with
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Anthony's voice and
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different types of styles that I want to create the script in
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and then there's
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SPEAKER_02: another drop down where I can say I want to go have a deep and meaningful
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SPEAKER_02: conversation or I want to just have
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a general conversation or I want to go into,
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you know,
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I've got different options.
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And based on that,
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Gemini will create the,
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in the back end,
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creates the script for me.
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SPEAKER_02: Then once I've done that,
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I will read through it and just make sure if there's anything I
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want to update or
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SPEAKER_02: edit.
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And then I push a button and it sends an email to the guest and
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says,
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here's your script.
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SPEAKER_02: Here's your questions.
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SPEAKER_02: So, yeah.
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So I guess in summary of that is that obviously you had to put
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a lot of work in the
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SPEAKER_01: background to make sure it was aligned with what you wanted to share.
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But also I like that you emphasize that you still read through
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and edit and change
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SPEAKER_01: things because I feel that's where a lot of people get lost,
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where they'll just do plain acceptance of whatever comes
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through rather than using
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SPEAKER_01: their discernment to challenge if it's aligned or not.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'll give you an example on what's today.
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SPEAKER_02: Today is Thursday.
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SPEAKER_02: Tuesday night,
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SPEAKER_02: I did an interview with a person and the guy said to me,
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SPEAKER_02: your questions are very AI-ish.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was like, yeah, I thought they were and they're very long.
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SPEAKER_02: So I took his feedback on board.
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SPEAKER_02: I then went to ChatGPT and I said, hey chat, this is what's going on.
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SPEAKER_02: Can we simplify this?
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SPEAKER_02: So then it gave me the prompt.
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SPEAKER_02: I put that into Lovable and I said, now, can you build into this
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to make sure that I can have the control on how I want that
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script to sound like.
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So what I've done there is I've taken live feedback from a
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guest straight after an
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SPEAKER_02: episode,
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SPEAKER_02: made changes so that the next episode is not the same.
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So it's all about,
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and when you're doing software development,
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it's all about iterations.
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Every iteration you do,
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you've got to make it better than what it was before.
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SPEAKER_02: And so you've got to go through that process of, you know,
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SPEAKER_02: Looking back and going,
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SPEAKER_02: okay,
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SPEAKER_02: reflecting back and going,
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SPEAKER_02: okay,
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SPEAKER_02: what worked,
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SPEAKER_02: what didn't work,
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SPEAKER_02: and what can I change to make it better the next time?
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SPEAKER_02: And if we do that,
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SPEAKER_02: even in our own lives as human beings,
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SPEAKER_02: when we become aware of those things,
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SPEAKER_02: then we become a better version of ourself.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 100%.
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SPEAKER_01: And I feel too,
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SPEAKER_01: so how have you noticed that applying these optimization tools,
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what are the changes that have happened in your life because
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you're not putting all
16:38
SPEAKER_01: that time and energy into medial tasks?
16:43
SPEAKER_02: I have more time to have more conversations.
16:46
I have more time to do the things that I've been putting on the
16:51
back burner.
16:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm in the process of building an academy.
16:57
SPEAKER_02: So that's the other thing is you've got the video,
17:00
SPEAKER_02: the article,
17:01
SPEAKER_02: the guide,
17:02
you've got the chatbot that also has a knowledge base behind it
17:06
and now I'm
17:07
building an academy where people can then come on and it's got
17:11
like a school type
17:14
SPEAKER_02: platform and it has a classroom,
17:17
SPEAKER_02: it has courses and there would be
17:19
um there'll be like group coaching there'll be all sorts of
17:23
stuff and events so I
17:24
has gives me more time to plan and build that stuff and then at
17:28
some point I can't
17:29
do everything myself but at some point as I start to to bring
17:34
cash in and start I
17:35
can start bringing other people on board to help me do that and
17:40
I can start
17:40
stepping up and at the CEO level where I'm meant to be not
17:44
doing the doing but just
17:45
SPEAKER_02: having conversations in an ideal um
17:49
SPEAKER_02: Point in time,
17:50
I want to be able to just turn up to an interview and have a
17:53
conversation and not
17:55
SPEAKER_02: worry about everything else because someone else is taking care of that,
17:58
SPEAKER_02: even with the use of AI.
18:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
18:00
SPEAKER_01: and I feel reflecting that back,
18:02
it's like you are putting in the hard work now so that you can
18:07
create the systems
18:08
to give you that more flexibility and freedom so you can do
18:11
more of what you love
18:13
SPEAKER_01: as you step further into your business.
18:16
100% and if you listen to the mindset mentor Rob Dial he says
18:22
do you want to do the
18:22
hard stuff now and have an easier life later or do you want to
18:26
have an easy life
18:27
now and do the hard stuff later ask yourself that question for
18:31
me it's the do the
18:33
SPEAKER_01: hard stuff now yeah that's yeah
18:36
SPEAKER_01: For me,
18:36
SPEAKER_01: in a reading the other week,
18:37
SPEAKER_01: the thing that came through was choose your level of suffering.
18:41
So would you rather suffer now doing the hard stuff so that
18:45
your life is easier later?
18:46
Would you rather suffer later because you put off doing the
18:49
hard stuff that would
18:50
SPEAKER_01: allow you to get to where you wanted?
18:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
18:52
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
18:52
SPEAKER_02: And like a guest of mine,
18:54
SPEAKER_02: Joe Gulcerium,
18:56
SPEAKER_02: he said that either way,
19:00
SPEAKER_02: so whether you work in a job or whether you're an entrepreneur,
19:03
SPEAKER_02: either way you're going to suffer.
19:06
So do you want to suffer at someone else's hand or do you want
19:09
to suffer at your own hand?
19:10
SPEAKER_02: So think about it.
19:12
SPEAKER_02: Entrepreneurship is not for everyone.
19:14
SPEAKER_01: No.
19:15
SPEAKER_02: But if you are an entrepreneur, suffering is part of life.
19:19
SPEAKER_02: You're going to suffer,
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but the thing is you can lessen that suffering if you start
19:26
becoming aware and
19:27
start taking steps to become a better version of yourself and
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start changing.
19:32
SPEAKER_02: Because if nothing changes, nothing changes.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: You're just going to be the same.
19:36
I had I was listening I think I was listening to somebody and
19:40
it said if you're not
19:41
choosing to change every day and expand who you are aren't you
19:44
just taking one step
19:45
closer to dying because you're not really living because you're
19:49
not choosing to
19:50
embrace the need like it's not about push push push we're not
19:53
talking about this
19:54
push hustle culture in fact Anthony is creating systems to pull
19:57
you away from that
19:58
SPEAKER_01: so you don't have to do that right I don't believe
20:01
yeah exactly and we can't maintain being in that hustle culture
20:06
this is about
20:07
actually all right what is my dream what is my vision what are
20:11
the steps I need to
20:12
take to get there and how can I actually use this technology
20:16
coming through and the
20:17
SPEAKER_01: tools to make that easier on me
20:20
and you know when I was working as a speech pathologist I'm
20:23
sure everyone's heard
20:24
this but it's like the KISS principle keep it simple stupid you
20:27
know so once you
20:29
get these beautiful systems that are simple and able to help
20:32
you get through the
20:33
day why are you doing all the hard work to to to make your life
20:38
harder rather than
20:39
oh I can just feed it into this system that I've got trained
20:42
that knows what I want
20:45
SPEAKER_01: to allow it to come out the other side.
20:46
SPEAKER_01: Check it's still okay.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: Use your discernment there.
20:49
SPEAKER_01: But at the same time, you save so much time.
20:52
I know for me personally,
20:54
starting to use AI as a tool has saved me time on editing.
20:58
SPEAKER_01: It saved me time on not just my podcast, but also like my book writing.
21:03
SPEAKER_01: and my articles that I write and things like that.
21:06
SPEAKER_01: Also,
21:06
SPEAKER_01: you know,
21:07
SPEAKER_01: marketing campaigns,
21:08
SPEAKER_01: it takes forever and like a fortune,
21:11
SPEAKER_01: whereas you can start to get these really nitty gritty things,
21:14
SPEAKER_01: you know,
21:14
SPEAKER_01: but actually embracing it and giving it feedback.
21:17
SPEAKER_01: And don't get me wrong, some days it's terrible.
21:20
Some days it's like you have to walk away and you're like,
21:24
today's not a day.
21:25
SPEAKER_01: It's a sign.
21:26
I'm going to go outside or do something today or just have
21:29
conversations and focus
21:31
SPEAKER_01: on something that you're passionate about.
21:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, AI also needs a rest from time to time.
21:38
SPEAKER_01: My co-host on a new podcast I'm doing, he calls it the lazy employee.
21:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
21:44
SPEAKER_02: You need to give it some annual leave.
21:48
SPEAKER_02: You do, you do, you do.
21:50
SPEAKER_02: And I was talking to,
21:52
on Monday I did my first AI coaching session with a business
21:58
owner and I said to
22:00
SPEAKER_02: her,
22:00
SPEAKER_02: I said,
22:00
SPEAKER_02: look,
22:01
SPEAKER_02: we will not be discussing tools in this session.
22:05
SPEAKER_02: And she looked at me and I said, no, this session is about strategy.
22:08
SPEAKER_02: It's about understanding your vision,
22:10
SPEAKER_02: your mission,
22:11
SPEAKER_02: objectives,
22:13
SPEAKER_02: and then understanding where your bottlenecks are.
22:15
SPEAKER_02: And I said, then we're going to create a plan
22:17
So I had built an assessment which is again built through
22:21
Lovable and it's built
22:22
SPEAKER_02: through AI and it's got six areas of your business and you go through,
22:26
SPEAKER_02: answer a whole lot of questions and then at the end of it,
22:29
it produces a report which you can download in a PDF and take
22:32
away with you and the
22:34
conversation we had before we did the assessment and everything
22:38
we discussed when
22:39
we downloaded the report or we saw it on the screen it was
22:44
exactly what we talked
22:46
SPEAKER_02: about
22:48
SPEAKER_02: So now, then she says, well, I said, well, now you've got clarity.
22:53
SPEAKER_02: You see,
22:53
SPEAKER_02: most people going after tools,
22:56
SPEAKER_02: the capability and the execution side of things,
22:58
SPEAKER_02: I feel that's the,
23:00
SPEAKER_02: that's not going to help you.
23:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to say it's the wrong way.
23:03
SPEAKER_02: It's probably not the best way.
23:05
SPEAKER_02: Band-aid?
23:06
SPEAKER_02: The band-aid?
23:06
SPEAKER_02: Well,
23:08
basically you're chasing tools rather than understanding what
23:11
the problem is,
23:12
SPEAKER_02: right,
23:12
SPEAKER_02: that you're solving.
23:13
SPEAKER_02: So first of all,
23:15
You've got to have a foundation and your foundation is your
23:17
mindset because you
23:19
SPEAKER_02: first of all got to be able to adopt,
23:21
SPEAKER_02: adapt,
23:22
SPEAKER_02: adopt AI and embrace it.
23:24
But then you've got to have clarity as to what are you,
23:28
where are you going in your business?
23:31
SPEAKER_02: And, and also, so where are you going in your business?
23:35
SPEAKER_02: And then it's just reconnecting.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: You're good.
23:40
SPEAKER_01: You're still here.
23:41
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
23:41
So where are you in your business and what are the steps that
23:45
we need to take to
23:46
SPEAKER_02: get there,
23:47
SPEAKER_02: right?
23:47
SPEAKER_02: So we've got to have the clarity first and the mindset.
23:50
SPEAKER_02: Once you have that foundation,
23:52
then you can look at the capability of tools and execution
23:55
because if otherwise
23:56
SPEAKER_02: you're building a skyscraper on sandy ground.
24:01
SPEAKER_02: Now,
24:01
SPEAKER_02: if you live in Dubai,
24:03
that might be okay because they're really good at building
24:05
skyscrapers in the
24:06
SPEAKER_02: desert,
24:07
SPEAKER_02: right?
24:07
SPEAKER_02: But like
24:09
SPEAKER_02: You want to be able to get clarity first And for me,
24:12
early this year was How do I use AI Workflows Agency and
24:17
Champion Mindset as
24:19
SPEAKER_02: integrated?
24:19
SPEAKER_02: Champion Mindset Collective provides the education,
24:22
SPEAKER_02: the credibility,
24:23
SPEAKER_02: the authority It provides the mindset and the clarity,
24:27
SPEAKER_02: right?
24:28
SPEAKER_02: Then AI Workflows Agency helps with the business side of it
24:34
and then the tools and then also once the client is onboarded
24:38
they go back into the
24:39
Champion Mindset Academy and then they go through a course and
24:43
they go through and
24:45
it's a course where they're not just doing a self-paced course
24:47
they're actually
24:49
SPEAKER_02: getting mentored every week there's a group call a masterclass and then
24:55
accountability calls and you're actually stepping them through
24:58
like you would as a
24:59
SPEAKER_02: business coach so kind of blending the two together
25:03
I feel it would be like right you have an idea of what you want
25:08
to do so instead of
25:09
learning the basics you just go start doing it and then all of
25:13
a sudden you you run
25:14
into all these problems and you're like oh my goodness why
25:17
don't I understand that
25:18
and you're like but you forgot to get the foundation skills
25:21
it's like from a
25:22
SPEAKER_01: spiritual point of view I've met people who I've had as clients where
25:28
they were working with a different practitioner who decided to
25:31
open all their
25:32
psychic gifts but forget to step them through that so that when
25:35
they opened it was
25:35
like this full-on onslaught of over sensory over too much it
25:40
was all too much like
25:42
it was and then they just closed the box because it was like oh
25:45
my goodness this is
25:45
too overwhelming whereas if we went like when I then worked
25:49
through it was like
25:49
okay well let's put some protective structures in place like
25:52
let's let's actually
25:53
SPEAKER_01: build up what we need to get to
25:55
SPEAKER_01: in order for this to work.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: Because if you don't put,
25:58
SPEAKER_01: like you said,
25:59
SPEAKER_01: those foundation steps in there,
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SPEAKER_01: then it stops it from you being able to utilize everything.
26:06
So,
26:06
you know,
26:07
if you don't have the,
26:08
in my words,
26:09
it's like spiritual hygiene.
26:10
If you don't have the spiritual hygiene,
26:12
then you're just going to be clogged up,
26:14
right?
26:14
SPEAKER_00: Like it's like it's too much.
26:16
The tools aren't going to work because you haven't bothered to
26:19
fix the things at the start.
26:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:21
SPEAKER_02: And for this client that I was taking through in the business coaching,
26:24
you know she had some reservations why why because she wouldn't
26:28
use AI and I said
26:30
well what is it and she said well it's the risk and the
26:32
security because she's got
26:33
clients as a digital marketer and she doesn't want her clients
26:38
information going
26:39
into LLMs so I said well let me ask you a question or let me
26:43
make a statement and I
26:44
said I had a guest on my podcast and if you look up Manoj
26:47
Agarwal his name is
26:51
SPEAKER_02: I think he calls his business AI Merch,
26:54
SPEAKER_02: and he said to me,
26:56
SPEAKER_02: you don't put crude oil into your car.
26:59
SPEAKER_02: And I went, sorry?
27:01
SPEAKER_02: He goes, you don't put crude oil into your car.
27:03
SPEAKER_02: I said, no, put refined oil in your car.
27:07
He said,
27:07
well,
27:07
why would you then go into the LLMs and put your data in there,
27:14
right?
27:16
So it's almost better to build something else that can query
27:21
the large language
27:21
SPEAKER_02: models,
27:23
SPEAKER_02: but you've got to make sure that your data is secure.
27:24
So for her,
27:26
she didn't want her client's information ending up in the LLM,
27:29
right?
27:29
SPEAKER_02: So a large language model is if you don't know what an LLM is.
27:32
SPEAKER_02: So I said, well, let's look at how we can solve that problem.
27:37
SPEAKER_02: So it's a problem to solve.
27:40
It's not like something that,
27:42
you know,
27:42
she's not going to be able to embrace AI.
27:44
SPEAKER_02: It's just that
27:45
She's just got something in front of her that's kind of like
27:48
stopping her from moving forward.
27:50
SPEAKER_02: And there's a fear there, right?
27:53
SPEAKER_02: So the fear comes from what?
27:55
SPEAKER_02: Why do you feel fearful?
27:57
SPEAKER_02: It's uncertainty, right?
27:59
SPEAKER_02: There's no clarity.
28:01
So once you have the clarity and the mindset,
28:04
then everything else is easy.
28:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
28:06
and I find that interesting too because sometimes I'll use AI
28:09
to create things for
28:10
SPEAKER_01: my clients and what I'll do is I'll put in
28:13
SPEAKER_01: snippets of conversations I've had.
28:15
SPEAKER_01: I haven't put their details.
28:16
SPEAKER_01: I haven't put who they are.
28:18
I've just put moments that were captured in time that were the
28:21
same themes that
28:21
SPEAKER_01: kept coming up again and again.
28:23
Or if they've shared testimonials or reviews,
28:26
I'll put,
28:26
hey,
28:27
here are the reviews.
28:28
Can you,
28:29
you know,
28:29
which anyone can find because they've posted them publicly.
28:32
SPEAKER_01: Can you find the themes in this so I can generate something out of it?
28:36
SPEAKER_01: And it's still keeping that anonymous.
28:38
And I understand your client's fears because my background in
28:41
allied health
28:42
I was so resistant to go into a cloud-based management system
28:46
because I said what
28:47
stops someone logging in and getting all the data but then all
28:50
of a sudden I'm like
28:51
hang on the doctors are doing it all the other allied health
28:55
are doing it you know
28:56
SPEAKER_01: clearly
28:57
apparently this is acceptable now and I guess it's on the
29:02
encryption that's
29:03
happening on the other end whether or not and in saying that
29:07
when we did go to the
29:08
cloud-based system it made it so much easier to do a lot of
29:11
things from home and
29:12
access information that you would previously have to remotely
29:16
log in to get like
29:17
all these other things so I get where that resistance comes
29:21
from and I know a lot
29:22
SPEAKER_01: of the people I work with the resistance is also
29:26
losing themselves to the technology and what is that
29:31
information being used for?
29:33
SPEAKER_01: So I guess that's what it is.
29:35
A good example is that a lot of people have accidents and die
29:40
on the road.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, doesn't mean you don't drive.
29:43
SPEAKER_02: But does that stop you from driving your car?
29:44
SPEAKER_02: No, no.
29:46
SPEAKER_02: But you just build up a resilience to,
29:48
SPEAKER_02: hey,
29:49
there's always going to be some idiots on the road and you
29:52
might be one of them,
29:53
SPEAKER_02: right?
29:53
SPEAKER_02: But
29:54
SPEAKER_02: But you take that risk anyway, right?
29:59
SPEAKER_02: And just stepping outside your door, there's a risk coming.
30:02
SPEAKER_02: But you don't know what's going to happen, but you take that.
30:05
It's like you've got to have that certainty without the logic
30:08
that everything's
30:09
SPEAKER_02: going to be okay.
30:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:11
SPEAKER_01: Well, I feel like it steps into that whole law of attraction, right?
30:14
SPEAKER_01: Like, like attracts like.
30:15
SPEAKER_01: So even,
30:16
SPEAKER_01: you know,
30:16
SPEAKER_01: when,
30:17
SPEAKER_01: you know,
30:17
SPEAKER_01: if you always fear that you're going to be,
30:19
SPEAKER_01: have a lawsuit,
30:20
then you're just going to pull the lawsuit because your brain's
30:23
looking for a
30:24
SPEAKER_01: lawsuit.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: Whereas, you know, if you're like, no, I'm fine.
30:27
SPEAKER_01: It's going to be okay.
30:29
SPEAKER_01: You know, I've got things in place anyway.
30:31
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying if you have to have insurances and things,
30:33
SPEAKER_01: please,
30:34
SPEAKER_01: this is not me saying not to get those.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: But at the same time,
30:38
SPEAKER_01: you're just taking a step and know that you're okay,
30:40
SPEAKER_01: no matter what,
30:41
SPEAKER_01: and then you don't have to focus on it.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
30:45
SPEAKER_02: the energy that you've got,
30:47
SPEAKER_02: the vibration that you're creating,
30:49
SPEAKER_02: is putting that to the universe,
30:51
SPEAKER_02: and the universe is then going,
30:52
SPEAKER_02: you want more of this?
30:53
SPEAKER_02: Sure, here you go.
30:55
So when you say,
30:56
I don't want a low lawsuit,
30:57
then you go,
30:58
oh,
30:58
you want more of that?
31:00
SPEAKER_02: No, here you go.
31:01
And the thing is,
31:03
we've got this thing called the reticular articulating system
31:07
in our brain.
31:07
SPEAKER_02: It's called the RIS.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: And it's a filter that filters everything else out.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: So whatever you feed it,
31:13
SPEAKER_02: it's going to look for that and it's going to try and solve that problem.
31:16
So if you've ever wanted to buy a car and you like a particular
31:21
color,
31:23
then guess what?
31:25
Every time you drive down the road,
31:26
you're going to see the same color and that car.
31:28
SPEAKER_02: Like if someone's saying,
31:30
SPEAKER_02: look for everything that's green in the room,
31:33
SPEAKER_02: are you going to look for anything else other than green?
31:35
SPEAKER_01: No.
31:35
SPEAKER_02: No.
31:36
SPEAKER_02: So your brain's focused on just zoning in on that particular thing.
31:41
SPEAKER_02: So the question you've got to ask yourself, your mind is a gardener.
31:46
SPEAKER_02: And you're sowing seeds in the garden by the way you think,
31:49
SPEAKER_02: you feel and you act because your reality is created by your thoughts,
31:55
SPEAKER_02: your emotions and your actions.
31:57
SPEAKER_02: So if you're feeding your garden with negative thoughts and emotions,
32:04
SPEAKER_02: then you're growing negative plants effectively.
32:09
SPEAKER_02: You're growing weeds effectively, right?
32:11
SPEAKER_02: Instead of flowers.
32:13
SPEAKER_01: Well, I guess sometimes they don't even grow.
32:16
SPEAKER_01: You know, this is the thing.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: Because you haven't put the energy in it.
32:20
My other favorite is you don't plant seeds and then dig them up
32:23
halfway through,
32:24
SPEAKER_01: right,
32:24
SPEAKER_01: to see if they're growing.
32:26
SPEAKER_02: No, no, because you trust.
32:29
SPEAKER_02: You've got trust.
32:30
Because you grow a seed and you know that you've got the
32:35
certainty that it's
32:37
SPEAKER_02: actually growing beneath the dirt.
32:42
The other thing is like I was talking to a friend on the
32:44
weekend and I said,
32:45
SPEAKER_02: we were at lunch and I said,
32:46
SPEAKER_02: okay,
32:48
SPEAKER_02: you've ordered a meal.
32:51
SPEAKER_02: Do you doubt that that meal is going to come?
32:53
SPEAKER_02: She goes, no.
32:54
SPEAKER_02: I said, then you've got to believe that things are going to happen.
32:58
So when you go to a restaurant,
33:00
you order a meal,
33:01
you know that it's coming.
33:02
SPEAKER_02: You've got an expectation that it's coming.
33:04
So the more you live your life like I expect great things to
33:07
happen for me,
33:09
I expect
33:10
SPEAKER_02: These things to happen to,
33:11
SPEAKER_02: you know,
33:12
SPEAKER_02: expect shitloads of money to come to me,
33:14
SPEAKER_02: excuse my French,
33:16
then what you're doing is you're actually putting those
33:19
intentions out and those
33:21
SPEAKER_02: are the things that you're going to draw towards you.
33:24
SPEAKER_01: 100%.
33:24
And this is such an important thing that people need to
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remember when trying to
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SPEAKER_01: manifest a law of attraction or
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You know if your business isn't working how you want it to work
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it's actually an
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invitation to start to look for you exactly how you guided that
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client through a
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deeper process of understanding where the bottlenecks were and
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what wasn't working
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and getting that clarity because otherwise it doesn't matter
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what tools you have if
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you don't understand when the problem is then it's really hard
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to apply anything to
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SPEAKER_01: allow it to shift.
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SPEAKER_01: and allow it to work.
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SPEAKER_01: And as we start to finish our time together,
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SPEAKER_01: Anthony,
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SPEAKER_01: I asked the guests that come on the show,
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SPEAKER_01: if you could heal or change something in the world,
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SPEAKER_01: what would it be?
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SPEAKER_02: Well,
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SPEAKER_02: look,
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I've had this dream for about three years that at some point in
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the not so distant
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SPEAKER_02: future,
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I would like to establish an organization that helps people who
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have gone through
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SPEAKER_02: abandonment and rejection,
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SPEAKER_02: like I did at the age of seven,
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SPEAKER_02: to come and heal and become whole.
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SPEAKER_02: in themselves and then live their life to the fullest.
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SPEAKER_02: So if I could do that,
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that would be absolutely amazing because then we wouldn't have
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such a broken world.
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SPEAKER_02: Not that people who have been abandoned are broken.
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SPEAKER_02: There's nothing wrong with you,
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SPEAKER_02: you're not broken,
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SPEAKER_02: but it's like the systems are broken in terms of being able to give help.
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SPEAKER_02: And I have a love-hate relationship with the government anyway, so
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As do most who come on my show So what I want to do like this
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podcast Champion
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Mindset Collective that I created is based on the principles of
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Mahatma Gandhi who
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said be the change in the world that you want to see and so
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that's what I'm doing
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is being the change that I want to see and lastly I just want
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to say that I can
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change my world you can change your world but together
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collectively we can change
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SPEAKER_02: the whole world One last thing I just want to say is that
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you know champion your life I actually want to say you are
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loved you are worthy
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champion your life champion your greatness and have an amazing
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day yeah beautiful
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and if people want to come and find you in a champion mindset
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collective where can
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SPEAKER_01: they go Anthony
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They can just look,
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go to my website,
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which is www.championmindsetcollective.com.
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SPEAKER_02: You can search my name on Google and you'll find me all over Google.
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SPEAKER_01: Otherwise,
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SPEAKER_01: and for everyone listening,
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SPEAKER_01: if you enjoyed this episode,
35:54
SPEAKER_01: please feel free to like,
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SPEAKER_01: share,
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SPEAKER_01: or subscribe.
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SPEAKER_01: If you have someone curious about AI and using it in their world,
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SPEAKER_01: in terms of their business or definitely in their podcasting.
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SPEAKER_01: Anthony is definitely the man to come and talk to.
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SPEAKER_01: So please check out the links in the show notes as well.
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SPEAKER_02: Look, I've done about 206 episodes as of last night.
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SPEAKER_02: I want to encourage you to go to the website,
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SPEAKER_02: go look up the episodes,
36:19
SPEAKER_02: go to the page,
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SPEAKER_02: read the articles,
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SPEAKER_02: and then go and download the practical guide.
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SPEAKER_02: It's free.
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you just have to put in your email and phone number your name
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and email and so on
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and you can download that and you can actually start to make
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change in your life
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right now so you can go listen read and download and change
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your life yeah and do
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that everyone listening do that go choose to change your life
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because the only time
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your life is going to change if you make the choice and then
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step into action to
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SPEAKER_01: make it happen if you keep passively hoping that
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and praying for the world to change and do nothing about it
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than as just like
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SPEAKER_01: Muhammad Gamdi said,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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be the change you want to see in the world because that's the
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only way it's going
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SPEAKER_01: to change.
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SPEAKER_01: So a big thank you to everyone for listening and thank you,
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SPEAKER_01: Anthony,
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for being on the show and sharing how you've innovated AI to
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work for you,
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SPEAKER_01: but also how important mindset,
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SPEAKER_01: clarity and choosing to be the change you want to see is in this world.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Catherine.
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SPEAKER_00: Hey, beautiful souls.
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It is Catherine Crestani here and I wanted to have a chat with
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you about a really
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SPEAKER_01: amazing cacao that I drink to help me get in ceremony,
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SPEAKER_01: to help me ground,
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SPEAKER_01: but also just because it tastes freaking good.
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So if you're curious and want to know about drinking something
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other than coffee or
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SPEAKER_01: your standard tea,
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SPEAKER_01: why not check out Creation Cacao?
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SPEAKER_01: I love this with a bit of honey and cinnamon sprinkled in and
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Just letting it brew and having that whole intention as you
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create this cup.
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SPEAKER_01: So if you're curious and want to know more,
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check out the link in the show notes and in the bio and enjoy
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your cup of cacao.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you for listening to Willow Healing Matters the podcast.
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We have so much love and gratitude that you are taking the time
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out of your day to
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SPEAKER_00: empower you on your healing journey.
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The views shared by the person being interviewed might not
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necessarily reflect that
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SPEAKER_00: of the host and should be used in your own discernment.
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SPEAKER_00: Trust what resonates with you and follow your heart and soul guidance.
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SPEAKER_00: If you have any underlying medical conditions or mental health issues,
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SPEAKER_00: This can be found in the show notes Remember to activate,
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SPEAKER_00: align,
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SPEAKER_00: heal,
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SPEAKER_00: empower and find love in everything that you do