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Ep. 134 - The Haunting (1999) · Frightmares

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  Speaker 1: You tell me, yes it is. Oh my goodness, am
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  Speaker 1: yelling jot me to turn the thing down.
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  Speaker 2: So that I don't go deaf?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I'll turn yours down because you're very sensitive hearing. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: is that better? Who welcome to the radio? Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: hello and welcome to episode one hundred and thirty four.
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  Speaker 1: Fright maares. I am your host, Austin Proctor, and that
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: is your other host who is sleeping, Gabrielle Proctor. She
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  Speaker 1: real tired today and some am I I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't even work one of the days this week,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm already exhausted.
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  Speaker 1: I know. We're recording this on Wednesday. We did not
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  Speaker 1: work Monday, and it's just it's been the longest week ever.
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  Speaker 1: And we have another three day weekend this weekend because.
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  Speaker 2: Of fucking week is going to feel extra.
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  Speaker 1: Fucking President's Day or whatever. The shit. Stop making the
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  Speaker 1: skulls eat that. That's actually kind of cool. You leave
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  Speaker 1: it there, but it's a non functioning coaster now, just
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  Speaker 1: so you know, you're welcome. Thank you for yes. Awesome great. So,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, we are talking about the haunting from
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine today, but before.
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  Speaker 2: We did they know?
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  Speaker 1: Huh, how did they know that's the name? What do
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  Speaker 1: you mean of the episodes? Yeah, it's no secret anymore
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  Speaker 1: what we're doing fun. I've actually heard too from fellow
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  Speaker 1: podcasters that people some of like some of his audience
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  Speaker 1: like kind of they don't complain, but they're like, I
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  Speaker 1: want to know the name of the movie. So I
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  Speaker 1: guess it's I don't know, good to just put the
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  Speaker 1: name of the movie, because I guess some people don't
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  Speaker 1: like not knowing exactly what you're doing without looking at
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  Speaker 1: the title. I liked the quirky, stupid titles I came
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  Speaker 1: up with, but I'm going on the bandwagon of just
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  Speaker 1: naming them what the movie is because now it saves
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  Speaker 1: me from texting you when you're trying to sleep. Are
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  Speaker 1: you creative this? Yeah, so that takes me the stress
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  Speaker 1: of trying to come up with something fun. But so, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about that. Last you know, last time you
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  Speaker 1: were on, we did Jennifer's Body, which is a movie
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  Speaker 1: that was awesome. This movie is a commune. It's a
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  Speaker 1: movie that's not that great.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 1: Do enjoy it, but it's not that great. So, uh,
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  Speaker 1: we will get onto that in just a couple of seconds.
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  Speaker 1: But I, as always, I've bought some things and some stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Actually three of these were free. So but I've obtained
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  Speaker 1: movies like Bloodfest Me and you watch this one. Owen
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  Speaker 1: Edgerton I believe directed this one and this one and
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  Speaker 1: health Fest came out pretty much around the same time,
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  Speaker 1: pretty much the same premise, except this one I think
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  Speaker 1: isn't just a soul killer. I think everyone just starts killing.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember. Healthfest is the one where's the one
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  Speaker 1: dude antagonized?
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  Speaker 2: I know? And this one is more like different areas
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  Speaker 2: and they don't know who the killer is and like yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of blood too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Also, what's his face? I don't know his written name
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  Speaker 1: in real life, but Ned from Spider Man is in
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  Speaker 1: this and he is bald.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's the guy who plays Peter Pan
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  Speaker 2: in Once Upon a Time is the lead?
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  Speaker 1: It might be, But so, yeah, you take a pic.
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  Speaker 1: Bloodfest is a lot of fun. That's okay? That him? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Bloodfest a lot of fun. Picked this up at bright
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  Speaker 1: Light Books over in I guess winter Park, Castlebury four
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  Speaker 1: eight dollars. Then the next two movies are movies. Well,
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  Speaker 1: one of them is a movie we just recently did
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  Speaker 1: with me and Spencer, The Hills Have Eyes. I had
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  Speaker 1: mentioned I believe on the show that these were extremely
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  Speaker 1: hard to find and they were like out of print
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  Speaker 1: and they were very expensive. But one of my good
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  Speaker 1: friends on the.
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  Speaker 2: What isn't that supposed to be off?
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  Speaker 1: No, it's supposed to be on low. Okay, one of
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  Speaker 1: my good friends in the screen Factory Bicell Trade Group
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  Speaker 1: had duplicates of these and traded me for a They
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  Speaker 1: Live copy with the slow cover he gave me The
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  Speaker 1: Hills Have Eyes and The Hills Have Eyes Part two.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you, Matt Zimmerman, fucking stand up guy right there.
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  Speaker 1: So now I have these and I didn't have to
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  Speaker 1: pay forty or fifty bucks for those, so those are awesome.
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  Speaker 1: We'll probably do Hills Have Eyes too at some point
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  Speaker 1: in the near future. And then this is another like
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  Speaker 1: kind of freebie that someone gave me when I ordered
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  Speaker 1: something in the group, they just sent this along with it,
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  Speaker 1: which is a very common trend in that group to
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  Speaker 1: just get extra movies. And this is one, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we have to do this one, me and you. It's
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  Speaker 1: called Pulse. I don't want to read the whole back
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  Speaker 1: cover because it's witt It's way too wordy, but it's
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  Speaker 1: essentially about everything we late rely on being run by
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  Speaker 1: electricity and what happens when like electricity fights back is
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  Speaker 1: what I is what I got from the back. So
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  Speaker 1: this looks wild, no idea. Never even heard of this
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  Speaker 1: movie ever, but it's called Pulse. I will definitely be
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  Speaker 1: watching that. Then when we went to f Ye, the
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  Speaker 1: day we got all those crazy funkos we've been wanting
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  Speaker 1: for a while. F Ye had all of them. Good
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  Speaker 1: Day for Funko pops, and you got me the opus
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  Speaker 1: eponymous ghost, Like, what is it like the they have
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  Speaker 1: a name, it's like the vinyl the fucking posh.
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  Speaker 2: It's the small funko that comes with the seven inch
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  Speaker 2: final Yeah boom.
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  Speaker 1: So that's tight. Finally got that. And then when we
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  Speaker 1: were at FYE, I went ahead and bought the hell
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  Speaker 1: Raiser or sorry, hell Bound hell Raiser two because I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't find it online anywhere, And this is the aero copy.
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  Speaker 1: And we all know how I felt about Hell Raiser.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you've mentioned it as well, how we
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  Speaker 1: just did not like the first Hell Raiser whatsoever. But
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  Speaker 1: I've heard they get better, Like if you don't like
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  Speaker 1: the first one, you might you might like two or three.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll give it a shot and see how I
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  Speaker 1: like it. Because I couldn't find it streaming and I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't find a copy a decent copy for a decent price.
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  Speaker 1: So I like it. How it's hell It's not hell
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  Speaker 1: Raiser two. It's hell Bound Hell Raiser two weird. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so maybe I'll like that one more. And last, but
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: not least, I got the Collector's edition from Screen Factory
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: Road Games, I think from nineteen eighty one, starring Stacy
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  Speaker 1: Keach and Jamie Lee Curtis. Stacy Keach is like a
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  Speaker 1: loan trucker who plays games to keep his sanity on
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  Speaker 1: long hauls through the desolate Australian outback, and Jamie Lee
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  Speaker 1: is the free spirited hitchhiker looking for excitement with the
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  Speaker 1: game of her own. So that sounds like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fun. If you don't know who Stacy Keaches, you
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  Speaker 1: might know him as the warden or whatever from prison
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  Speaker 1: Break season one and I think season two as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: isn't Yeah, he's also in one of the shorts and
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: the anthology Body Bags from the nineties. It's a John
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: Carpenter somebody else, Toby Hooper joint, I believe. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this looks like a lot of fun. There's also a
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  Speaker 1: remake too. I heard it's pretty good, but we'll start
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  Speaker 1: with your original first. I think you'd probably like this one,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll watch this one together. So so much horror stuff,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, all the time. Now. I know you
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  Speaker 1: had some thoughts and feelings about how this movie relates
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  Speaker 1: to the Haunting of Hill House that was in twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to hear I want to hear it.
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  Speaker 1: What do you got tell me? Because I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: can't remember shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: So the Haunting and the Haunt of Hillhouse are both
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  Speaker 2: based on a book from nineteen fifty nine, and this
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  Speaker 2: story actually because I kind of looked up what the
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  Speaker 2: base story was just to see because there are some
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  Speaker 2: similar elements throughout. But this story, this version of the Haunting,
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  Speaker 2: tracks more closely with the story, which we'll get into.
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  Speaker 2: So it follows more closely in line with what's going
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  Speaker 2: on and the hunting of Hillhouse. If you were trying
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  Speaker 2: to say this was a direct adaption adaptation, of theis
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  Speaker 2: the book, you'd it'd be wildly inaccurate. Be it'd be
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  Speaker 2: even more off than Kubrick's shining interpretation.
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  Speaker 1: I've like skimmed a couple of pages. I got it.
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  Speaker 2: The things they kept were Haunted house, Crane family in
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  Speaker 2: hunted House, some of the names, and the caretakers who
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  Speaker 2: will not stay there after dark and uh oh, and
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  Speaker 2: then there's like this whole line that the caretaker the
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  Speaker 2: wife says on both accounts like we don't stay after
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  Speaker 2: at night in the dark, no one can hear you,
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  Speaker 2: no one comes close, no one lives close to the town.
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  Speaker 2: No one will come closer than that in the night
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  Speaker 2: in the dark. Like, yeah, we get.
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  Speaker 1: It, it's nighttime, you're gone. Cool, great, But it was
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  Speaker 1: I thought.
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  Speaker 2: That was funny because it had been a while since
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  Speaker 2: i'd seen The Haunting, because obviously we'd seen this one first.
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  Speaker 1: Been about three years because we watched it in like
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  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen around the same time.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, this, I thought that was funny. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the dialogue from the book
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  Speaker 2: or just a nod to this movie, but I thought
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  Speaker 2: it was a nice callback either way. But yeah, if
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  Speaker 2: you're looking for something that lines up with the book.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how the whole plot of the movie
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  Speaker 2: lines up, but the base story it tracks pretty closely
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  Speaker 2: with it and definitely is different than the TV mini
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  Speaker 2: series on Netflix, which does not at all.
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  Speaker 1: What's the TV mini series? Oh the twenty eighteen? Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, is there another one that I missed?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they I mean, they totally re rework the
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  Speaker 2: entire story, which was for the best, because honestly, when
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  Speaker 2: we get into this, we'll kind of talk about how,
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  Speaker 2: for the most part, you can follow one portion of
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  Speaker 2: the plot line, but the whole other side part, which
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  Speaker 2: could honestly which could be called the main portion of
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  Speaker 2: the plot line, really hard to track along with what's
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  Speaker 2: happening there because you're like, half the time, you're going,
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  Speaker 2: what's she looking at? What's happening?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 2: Why is this happening?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was a good move Mike Flanagan to
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  Speaker 2: just totally take the bones and throw the guts in
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  Speaker 2: the trash.
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  Speaker 1: No pun intended. No, oh okay, well there's like bones
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  Speaker 1: in this shit and stuff is thrown whatever. Anyways, because
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  Speaker 1: wasn't Luke was a was one of the one guys
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  Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, right.
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  Speaker 2: The Yeah, so Luke, Nell and Theo are characters in
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  Speaker 2: the family, but the in the TV show they're siblings. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and they are living in the house as kids.
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  Speaker 1: And this they're just three random people. And in the book,
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  Speaker 1: oh really.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the book, the book actually follows this story,
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  Speaker 2: the whole study, everything that's happening follows the book. And
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  Speaker 2: it is actually remake of the movie, which was made
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  Speaker 2: in the sixties.
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  Speaker 1: I had trivia on that and I thought it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty sure it contradicted what you just said. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: this is what the trivia says. This is not a
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  Speaker 1: remake of Robert Weiss's classic. As the production company did
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  Speaker 1: not have the remake rights, they were not allowed to
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  Speaker 1: replicate even one shot from the nineteen sixty three film. Instead,
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  Speaker 1: it is an adaptation of Shirley Jackson's novel.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so that okay, The Haunting of Hill House, the
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  Speaker 2: original movie was not about this. Yeah, so it's it
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  Speaker 2: is the dish based on.
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  Speaker 1: The It's about the book, not the film.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you got it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's at least that's what the trivia says.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how accurate all that stuff is.
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  Speaker 2: But well, based on the blurb I read about the book.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, I swore us. I felt Zola past my leg.
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  Speaker 2: And she did because she was over here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, because I looked back and she was inder Kate, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Like, haunted the ghost of an unsettled dog.
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  Speaker 1: No, we already have one crazy dog. I don't need
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  Speaker 1: a ghost crazy dog.
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: She is the ghost dog. She's a fake on the
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: on the podcast continue anyway. So no, that was That's
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  Speaker 2: pretty much it. So if you're looking for something that
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  Speaker 2: tracks along more with the book, then this is it.
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  Speaker 2: If you want something that's palatable, you should probably just
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  Speaker 2: watch the show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, well this is like totally a guilty pleasure movie.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's definitely more like fun to watch because
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: it's ridiculous and cheesy and not fun to watch because
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  Speaker 2: it's like innovative or good per se.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and even in four and a movie that's almost
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  Speaker 1: two hours, uh didn't really feel the length because the
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  Speaker 1: first time we paused to go to the bathroom was
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: like already an hour in and I'm like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 1: there's like, you know, forty minutes left or so, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because of credits. So that's definitely a plus for a
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  Speaker 1: long movie like that. You don't really feel the run
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  Speaker 1: time because it's interesting enough to keep you watching. And
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  Speaker 1: then the abhorrent CG pops up on screen and you're like, oh,
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: now I really can't look away because this is so bad. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but it's funny too, because some of the CG actually
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  Speaker 1: holds up very well. And then you get those flying
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  Speaker 1: babies that come in you're like, the fuck happened here?
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  Speaker 2: Or the ghost of Ukraine who also looked green, crazy,
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  Speaker 2: really bad. It reminded me of the the evil Ghost,
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  Speaker 2: so to speak from Jim Carre of Frighteners.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, or even the ghosts.
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  Speaker 2: You know what you watch You should watch the movie
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  Speaker 2: Ghost and see those CGI ghosts because those are off.
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  Speaker 1: The one with Swazi.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, there's actually like like ghost monsters that come
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  Speaker 2: from the under. Oh boy, it's so like the movie's
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  Speaker 2: actually not too bad, but it's actually pretty fun to watch.
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  Speaker 2: That seems just ridiculous, but the rest of the movie's
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  Speaker 2: fun to watch. But that you're just like, ooh, that
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: was an interesting choice we made there. Good good?
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  Speaker 1: Is that? Is that a horror movie in any way?
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  Speaker 1: Or is that just like a straight element, floating floating
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  Speaker 1: in nice.
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  Speaker 2: It's not it's not straight horror. I mean it's not
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  Speaker 2: straight romance either.
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  Speaker 1: From nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, all, I can think it's
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  Speaker 1: a mystery thriller, romance, drama, fantasy.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds right.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: I know I'm thinking of the wrong song. But it's
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: down down now now?
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: What is still from Top Gun? Unchained Ellie Melody?
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  Speaker 1: What I fucking thought that was at least from Dirty Dancing?
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: No, that's I had the time of my life. Remember
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  Speaker 2: they sing that new girl?
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, then what's the thing that scene from how Not
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: how Much Mother from It's always done in Philadelphia when
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  Speaker 1: fucking Dennis is trying to bang that chick and he
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  Speaker 1: like comes li there like parallel and it's like a
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  Speaker 1: blue light and it plays that song. It's that's replicating
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  Speaker 1: something from a movie. It's definitely not God damn it.
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  Speaker 1: I'll find it. I'll find it.
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  Speaker 2: Yikes. Okay, so maybe we should talk about the movie now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, Oh is that all you had to
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  Speaker 1: say with comparisons?
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I said that like five minutes ago.
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  Speaker 1: Have you read any of the novels?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I read the Wikipedia page.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know if you had listened maybe done an
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  Speaker 1: audible or if you'd.
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  Speaker 2: Actually listened to I might, But honestly, this story is
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  Speaker 2: not as good as the one from the TV show.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and also Stephen King had written, like the first
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  Speaker 1: draft of this movie, I'll just say this trivia now
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  Speaker 1: kind of while we're on the subject. But I guess
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  Speaker 1: something about it didn't work or.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't he didn't like the direction it was going in.
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  Speaker 1: But then that turned into rose Red, which is better. Which, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and what's that about exactly? Because I honestly don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's really funny because every time I think of this movie,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, man, rose Red. Rose Red is that
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  Speaker 2: the premise is instead of people who are going for
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  Speaker 2: a sleep study, it's a bunch of psychics who know
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  Speaker 2: their psychics get together and by a scientist who brings
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  Speaker 2: them into a haunted house. So it's very similar setup.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to a house it's clearly haunted, it's very old,
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  Speaker 2: and the house wants one of them. And yeah, it's
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: like a three part mini series. I think we should
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: talk about it at some point because I like, I
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  Speaker 2: told you, uh that one has a three point one
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: on Letterbox, so that one has a much better rating
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  Speaker 2: and is I think a much more interesting story. And
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: the main chick from Halloween Town, the girl Marnie is
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  Speaker 2: in it. She doesn't have any lines, but she's in
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  Speaker 2: it as she's like one of the main people.
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  Speaker 1: Do we know if it's streaming anywhere? Probably not.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't know, because this is This would definitely
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: be on the side of miniseries I watched on sci
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Fi because I loved watching sci fi like that. The
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: was that storm one that he.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Does Shark Nado, No Storm of the Century?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that one's also really good. That's a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: people who are snowed in and this creepy guy comes
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  Speaker 2: to town and tells them that they have to give
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: up one of their children. Oh yeah, that one's really
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  Speaker 2: good too. It's really creepy. Honestly, we should do a
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: whole series just on his mini series because there's no
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: book to read. It's just hit the like the three
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: part mini series, and I've always loved those.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: So Rose Red is not a novel or like novella.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: It's just a straight just a straight Are you sure?
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Because uh he because I even looked it up
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: at one point to see if it was a book
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: so I could read it, and it was like, nah,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: he just wrote it because he tried to write this
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: and he turned it into something else. He's done see
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: TV series that are just TV series.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I had no clue which would be fun to well.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I mean we you know, we've done three parts of
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Horror's King, so we could definitely do like a low
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: key fourth installment, you know, just call it whatever we're doing,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: like I would do Storm, Storm of the Century, Kimber
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: the mini series, the mini serious. Yeah, we were a
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: remember we were gonna watch The Storm of the Century
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: for thirty thirty one days of Horror, but it was
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was a mini series. It's like
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty three minutes. I'm like, okay, I
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: don't think we can do that in one day. Yeah,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: so I didn't end up watching that, but all right, yeah,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: we'll do that. I'll put that on the list we
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: already have. By and by the way, I do I
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: have made Oh my god, I think I planned out
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: like the next four months of podcasting. Couldn't tell you
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: what we're doing next week, but I will look at
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: that next time and we'll do. We'll go back to
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: announcing things the week before. So let's get into all
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the craziness that is The Haunting from nineteen ninety nine.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Hold on two seconds. Oh my god, I'm out the truck.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: So Haunting from nineteen ninety nine released on July third
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: in the United States. This is rated PG thirteen. I
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: believe this is the first PG thirteen movie. This no
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: track me to Hell, I know, but this is probably
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: this is one of the first PG thirteen this year.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I'd say rated PG thirteen for moderate violence and gore,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: mild profanity, and moderate frightening and intense scenes. There are
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: no alcohol, drugs and smoking, or sex and nudity, although
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: it is very like not sensual. Would you call it that?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Catherine Seed to Jones.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Data Jones is throwing off some heat.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: WHOA, how's the song going's Catherine Zeta Jones something about lasers,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: jumps through lasers. WHOA, Yeah, that's from Workaholics, like first
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: season episode three.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's the one thing that comes up the
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: most frequently from that show for.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Us, because it's a banging song. What do you want?
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: This is a runtime of an hour and fifty three
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: minutes and you really don't feel it. Honestly, it goes
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: it goes by pretty quick for nearly two hours.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: This is what, though, I will say, ironically, for being
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: a film about people doing a sleep study, you and
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I were both midway through the movie like, I'm so tired.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I'm just getting old. I think
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: that was me.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, that was the sleep study.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: You're getting old. I was tired yesterday when we were
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: trying to play Borderlands. I'm like, give me like thirty
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and I'll be good. Like as soon as I'm done
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: with work, I'm like, you know what sounds a nap?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: That sounds great right now. So yeah, I think I'm
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: just getting old. It's fine. This is listed as a
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: fantasy horror and thriller directed by a man named Jan
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: de Bon maybe I think friend. That's French. Possibly Jan Debon,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. He only has six directing credits. His
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: first movie was a little thing called Speed. I don't know.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: You may have seen it with christ Yeah, he invented cocaine. Yeah,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and it's with the Sandra Bullock and uh Keanu Reeves.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Followed soon after by Twister, which we just watched recently.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: That stars Helen.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Hunt continues to be one of the best films of
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the nineties. Yeah, I've never met anyone who doesn't like
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: that Twister. Every time you mentioned Twister to somebody, that
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: film is gold because they'll be like, oh, Twister, I
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: gotta watch that.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Helen Hunt, Bill Paxton, Philip Seymour Hoffman, so many others. Uh, oh,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that's right. I always forget he's in that. Guy, I know,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I always forget he's in that until he pops up
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: on screen. I'm like, that's right.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: There's just so many people in that.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: So this man started his career with those two movies
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: that is like one of the most solid foundations, and
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: then I'm not exactly sure what happened because Speed, Speed,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Hell of a Drug. His career definitely took a drastic
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: turn because after he did those two he directed Speed
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: two Cruise Control, which, let's be honest, there was no
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: if any movie never did not need a sequel. It's
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: fucking Speed because they're on a cruise ship in this one,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and it's just like, guys, well, I'm not gonna get
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: into it, but there's no reason for that. I think
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: that has like a one point seven it's horrible. It's
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: not a good movie, despite having Keanu and Sandra Bullock return,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and then he did this one. That's pretty much where
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: his career ends, because he did one other movie in
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: two thousand and three.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: The Craft that the sequel one, the.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Sequel to Raider, that was not great, and then he
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: didn't do anything until twenty twenty. So started so strong.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: You had so much promise, and then it kind of
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: just took a shit. So sorry to hear that, honestly,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: but you know, that's how it goes in Hollywood. Sometimes
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: you make a couple of bad movies, You're done. Oh shit,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I did not say who these people were. Pause while
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I just pull that up. Man, I didn't put the
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: who they were in the movie. This is not the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: time to like not load IMDb. Let's go there, we go,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: all right. So this is starring a man named Liam
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Neeson as doctor David Morrow. I really feel like you
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: should know that name, but if you don't, you might
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: know him as Qui gon Jin from Star Wars, The
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Phantom Menace or Brian Mills from Taking one to and
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: three four five They take their Grandmother and three I
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: think non. Then we have Catherine Zita Jones who jumps
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: through lasers. Whoa, whoa, And you should also know her.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: But if you don't, she was you probably might know
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: her from the mask of Zorro as Elena. And then
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: we have all we canna say something about her jumping
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: through lasers.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: She did that for Sean Connery.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Oh did she?
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a movie with her and Sean Connery and
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: he's teaching her to have to go through lasers.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: So they come to a heist. Okay, that's real.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: That's about a real movie.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Oh shit. Okay, so that makes me like that song
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: even better. And then we have a man named Owen Wilson,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: who again is another person you should immediately know the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: name of, if not, He's been in nearly every Wes
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Anderson movie. The Shanghai Knights, Shanghai Noon Movie is Royal
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Bannon Cars is Lightning McQueen. Night of the Museum is Jedediah.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, this man is in so much shit. Then
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: we have Lily Taylor, who you might not know by name,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: but she was Caroline Herron in The Conjuring and she
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: plays Nell in this. Also, Owen Wilson plays Luke Sanderson,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: which is funny. Because he has a brother named Luke Wilson,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: so that's a funny little thing. And then I didn't
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: really don't need to include him because he's not in much,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: but Bruce Dern is in this as mister Dudley, and
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: he's probably the one that has worked the most out
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: of the bunch, with one hundred and ninety two acting
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: credits movies like The Hateful Eight as General Sandy Smithers
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: and The Moke. Yeah he's and he's also in Once
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: upon a Time as Hollywood as yeah, Dakota Fannings like whatever.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: The guy who owns the ranch, Yeah, the ranch.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: He was also in The Burbs as Mark Rumsfield. So
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: he and this this movie, I mean, you know, I
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: could see it costing about this much, had an estimated
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: budget of eighty million dollars, which, yeah, CG was becoming popular.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: So it's based on the quality.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: We used about one hundred dollars to the CG. But
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: it did have a worldwide box gross of roughly one
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy seven point three million, so I mean,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: like it might be a bad movie, but it may
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: double plus seventeen million on that, So I mean definitely
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: made the studio of some money. It was filmed that
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the Harlaxton Manor, or at least the exterior shots were
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: in Lincolnshire, England, the Belvoir Castle in whatever the fuck England.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Do you have any idea how to pronounce that the
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Lexustershire less sister the washer sister sauce likeas likes Leicestershire.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Leicestershire, Yeah, Leicestershire. Sorry guys.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm bye, Paul. Yeah, as well as many other
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: various spots in the UK, and also various spots of Florida,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: including Orlando and of course California. Shot from November thirtieth,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight through April ninth, nineteen ninety nine. So
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck they would have shot
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: in Orlando, but that's what IMDb says, so we're going
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: with it. You can watch this on Hulu in paramount
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: plus four free. You can rent the HD verse from
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Amazon for three ninety nine, or buy the HD version
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: digitally for four ninety nine. You can also rent the
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: UHD version from Voodoo for six bucks or buy the
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: UHD digitally for seventeen bucks, which is a pretty severe
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: uptick and price. You can also get the BLU ray
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: on Amazon for twenty three and the DVD is also
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: five dollars, so there are a lot of ways to
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: watch this. We watched it on Hulu. It's funny because
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I went to Amazon to rent it, didn't even check
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: if it was streaming anywhere because I thought it wasn't,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and then I had to refund my money because it was.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I when I look for movies,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: when I pick movies, because I picked this one, I
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: always go by looking through streaming services and seeing what
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: movies I remember watching because then that guarantees we don't
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: have to pay for it.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And it's just funny because I always check letterbox because
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: letterbox will tell you where it's streaming. For some reason
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I did and I rented it. I was like, I
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: should have probably checked, Oh yeah, it's streaming. So you
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: can watch this for free ski on Hulu and Paramount
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Plus if you have those movies that came out are
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: on the same time. This is a wild year to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: go to our wild time to go to the movies, literally,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: because you had Big Daddy Wild, Wild West, American Pie.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: The fucking blair Witch Project. It's just the fucking blair
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Witch Project. Muppets from Space, Eyes, Wide Shut, Lake, Placid Drop,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Drop Dead, Gorgeous, Inspector Gadget, Deep Blue, cy Runaway, Bride
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: the Iron, Giant, Fucking mystery Men, and Bowfinger. What a
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: time to be of? What's that?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: There's only three of those I haven't seen?
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Like, what a time to be alive? This the fucking
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: theaters were hopping. If I went to the theaters and
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: most of these were my choices, I don't even know
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: where the fuck i'd start. Okay, that's fair, yes, But
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: then I don't know where i'd go after that. M Gorgeous, No, see,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: it's got to be big Daddy for me. Then Deeply
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: see them.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Blair witchst Stop would be mystery Man.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I also totally forgot that Inspector Gadget is a movie
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: that exists in this universe with Matthew Brodre And I
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: really need to rewatch that now because it's it's gonna
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: not hold up well and I have to see it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: It holds up better than the sequel.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Oh that's right, there was a sequel and they didn't
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: even use fucking Broderick. Well, yeah, what's the point.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: That's a great question.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: And they never did a third one. Thank god, I
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: think they might. Oh God, please tell me they didn't.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's one of those franchises that got out
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: of hand immediately.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Could we get away with doing mystery Men on this
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: on this show?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I mean it is I think we should. I don't
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: give a shit if we could.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a sci fi.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: And I think it's criminally underappreciated.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: It really is.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: If you haven't seen mystery Men, what the fuck are
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: you doing with your life? That movie's amazing. I didn't
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: even know, Like, I don't even know how I ended
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: up seeing that, but we just owned it and it
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, you know what, everybody likes mystery Men.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I don't remember how I saw it either, because I
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: don't think we owned that. It's it's probably something I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: saw on TV or at a friend's house and I'm like,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: what is this magic?
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: What? I think we own it now?
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's on it should be on DVD if not,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: or maybe I don't think we have it on.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: BlimE, that's right there. I stole my parents even okay, yeah,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: yeah that was that was theft.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, I stole this, so we okay, we'll just do
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: that because yeah, it's not a horror movie, but there
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: there's some there are some horror moments to it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: And it's a dark comedy comic based on the comic
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: The Flaming Carrot.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: The what now?
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Mystery Men is about is set?
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: It's based off a comic called The Flaming Carrot, which
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: is very literal. It is a giant carrot that is
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: on fire, and the mystery Men were background characters, but
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: they just decided to make it about them because they
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: saw some issues with trying to make a film about
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: a flaming carrot.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well all right then, yeah, really fantasy, sci fi, action, adventure, comedy,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: sci fi close enough.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, we do take the occasional sci fi.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we've done We've every now and again. We've
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: done a sci fi in there. So I say we
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: branch out and do some ship that's you know.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's a dark comedy. So I feel like that
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: still just hangs out in the vicinity.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Man, I say we do it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: We're on the outskirts.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I say we do it. Well, no, I'm gonna have Spencer.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Doing I'm in charge of that episode.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's move on specific horror moments? Did you
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: have anything? This movie is not very scary except for
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: the CG. But if you had a moment, I have one.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I can fire off right now while you think if
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: you'd like okay, well I did. I did like the
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: roof caving in in Eleanor's room, Nell's room. I thought
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: that was really cool. A lot of it did hold
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: up up until the face popped through, but I like that.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: That was cool. It was creepy. Uh. She had the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: part of the spikes in the roof coming like kind
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: of trapper. I thought that was cool.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Wasn't like the bedpost track?
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: That was cool. So that's my my little, my little
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: horror moment from this Yeah, are you just are you
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: just okay?
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Favorite kill? Well there's only one and it's epic.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Well technically there's two, but.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: On screen deaths.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: What do you not remember how the film ended?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Obviously not.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Anyway? Yeah, stop Luke.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah it's Luke because yeah, I don't even want
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: to say how we should leave that out.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: But it's so spectacular and also just kind of funny
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: at the same time, because you're like, oh damn.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Well it came out of nowhere, like no one's died
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: yet and then it's just like, by the way, death,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: oh okay bye did come out of nowhere, literally nowhere.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Although when I did see that the that the thing
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: that's swinging around, I was like, that's gonna come back
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: to bite somebody in the ass, and it definitely does
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: with a face. Yeah, uh favorite character I didn't. I
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: usually really have a favorite character, honestly, and I barely
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: had a least favorite, but I know we have the
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: same least favorite.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: I think I liked uh Theo the most because even
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: though she could have easily been like ah Neill's off
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: her rock or she was still like very and she
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: she clearly she was the one that they were talking
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: about being a narcissist and being very like self centered,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: and but she really was concerned about Nell and was
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: trying to help her even if she didn't necessarily know
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: what was going on, and she was still more open
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: to believing her through everything, and so I really liked her.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Plus her sheer power to hit on anyone in any
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: situation was just.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: She was really trying to get after Nell, and she
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Nell was like, I can't.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Tell her she's hitting on her, or just being really
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: like nice, but I think she's hitting on her And
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: you're like, no, she's definitely hitting on her. I'm like, yeah,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I did not pick that up when I was younger
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: and watching this kat.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: When Catherine Zita Jones hits on you, you accept it.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: It happen, whatever you want to do, it sounds great, just.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Let it happen. So yeah, Lee's favorite character for me.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: He was in about five seconds of this movie. But
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: is that little shit bag Richie, Oh my nephew, Nell's nephew.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: He was about crap parenting skills.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: He was. He was in the movie less than anyone,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and he he was my least favorite character, hands down,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: no questions asked. I assume it's the same for you.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, But I'm also going to add in the Ghost Children.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Basically all the children.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: In this movie were terrible children.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: All the children, and I'm terrible. And you know, I'm
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: always really hard on kids in movies because their acting
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: is rough, and considering what kids in movies can do
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: acting wise now or even Drew Barrymore was doing back
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: in the day, set the bar a little higher. Kids, Like,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: what the fuck you're just resting on your your looks.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: The little rascals can get through a whole movie, no problem.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: You can step up your game.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: These are words words of wisdom, honestly, all right. So
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: with that being said, the small synopsis of this movie
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: is a study in fear escalates into a heart stopping
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: nightmare for a professor and three subjects trapped in a
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: mysterious mansion. So that's the setup for this movie. Take
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: it away. I'll probably have funny things to say, maybe, Okay.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: So starts in on Nell, who has been caring for
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: her ill mother for the last eleven years, and her
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: mother has died, and her sister informs her that they
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: will be selling the apartment she's been living in for
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: the last eleven years out from under her, and they're
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: politely gifting her the car and nothing else. Nell is
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: shockingly very upset that she's about to be evicted from
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: her home and feels like she's received zero gratitude because
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: her sister has done nothing to help with their mother
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: this whole time.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Hey she got a nineteen seventy four Grimlin though a
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: twenty year old car. Hey dope car.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: So she's upset about this, and the sister, uh super nice,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: offers to let her come live at their house in
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: exchange for being both the maid and the nanny. And
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: you're like, wow, you can fuck right off. So she
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: tells them off, tells them to leave, goes and picks
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: up this necklace that is her that it is implied
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: with her mother's. And then she gets a phone call
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: from somebody it's not stated who who tells her to
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: look for the ad in the paper for a sleep
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: study that she immediately applies to to both make some money,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I believe, and have a place to stay for a
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: little while.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean it's nine hundred bucks a week, and
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: nine hundred bucks a week back in nineteen ninety nine,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I'd say.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: That's pretty a little crappy, but definitely better than no money.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Is going to say, it's you know, it's almost you know,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: almost four grand a month, is it?
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Did you check the inflation on that one?
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I'd probably be more closer, like five grand if for inflation,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: you know, So that's not terrible. Depending on how long
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: she did it, say how long the job was four?
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to be for a while, because they
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: were supposed to I know in the book it was
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: supposed to be like a two week thing.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: It didn't even last they lasted one night.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: It wasn't one night, it was multiple nights, was it? Yeah?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: So, oh, yeah, you're right.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: She drives to the house. The gates are locked shut,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: and she immediately runs into mister it's the Dursley's right, What?
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: No, theys are from Harry Potter?
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: What are these people?
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: The Dudley's Dudley's I was Dudley do right?
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Okay? So she runs into mister Dudley, who is the
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: one of the housekeepers. There are him and his wife,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: who uh lets her in but not well, not saying
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: cryptic things that are weird and off putting.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I thought she was a ghost just by how she talked.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, is this lady alive?
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: She is? So she uh nell goes up to the house,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: tries to get in. Uh. She knocks on the door
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: a lot for a door that is clearly partially open already,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: and then she lets herself in, goes and finds missus Dudley,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: who uh. Then she gets all weird and snippy with
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: the Nell where she's like, I can't do the cooking
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: and answer the door like, damn, lady, I've known you
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: for three seconds. What's with the attitude?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I thought I thought you already, said missus Dudley.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I thought I said, mister Oh yeah, No, I thought
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: missus Dudley was a ghost by because she like repeats
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: herself a few times. I'm like, are you just like
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: this weird like residual haunting?
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: No? No, so yeah, she's She shows her to Nell's room,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: explains that they put when the food is there. She
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: doesn't wait on people. She's got like a real tut man.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: She's like, I know, don't wait on people. Food. Breakfast
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: will be out at nine o'clock, dinner will be out
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: at six. We do not stay after sundown in the
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: night in the dark. We stay in town at six
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: miles away, so no one will hear you if you
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: need help. No one comes any closer than town after
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: dark in the night. He was just like, okay, so
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: He refresh my memory. Do you come back to the
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: house in the night? Are you nine miles away from okay? Cool,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: just just verifying.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: So yeah, And then THEO comes in and they immediately
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: start talking and chatting. And while Theo's getting shown to
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: her room, Nell's standing there and miss Dudley decides to
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: reiterate the exact same speech. So Nell thinks this is
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: funny because of how overly serious Miss Dudley's being, So
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: she says it along with her sarcastically, and they both
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: agree it's just a little weir. They run around the
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: house a bit find that this house is kind of
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: like a labyrinth situation. There's secret rooms, there are unusual
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: hallways with stepping stones made of books over water. There's
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: large gardens, creepy statues everywhere, lots of sculpted children's faces
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: all over the house. It's very off putting, not to
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: mention the the doors that are the side that are
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: taller than like a standard sized house.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, the fucking some of these doors are damn
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: near thirty feet And you're like.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: There's a point where uh own Wilson's like reaching for
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: a door handle over his head and you're like, it's
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: like a house for giants.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Also, what kind of hinges do you have for those things?
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Like good, good Jesus, And.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: The fact that they're that size and they're clearly made
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: of metal and you're opening and closing them by themselves.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Who's oiling the shit out of those hinges, Oh my god,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: like that has to be like a daily oiling thing.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: And I mentioned you, I'm like, who the fuck is
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: cleaning this place? Because every single part of the wall
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: is like carved wood, and like, oh my god, that's
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: just gonna collect so much dust. Who's dusting this fucking house?
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the hallways are filled with hundreds of pillars.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: But if you remember when Nell notices the carved faces
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: over the fireplace in her room, she says, oh, those
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: are cute, which was a red flag. But Miss Dudley
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: is like, she's like, they look so cute, and she
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: looks She's like, looks like a lot of dusting to me.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Damn, Yeah, it's a lot of fucking dust, dude.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: So then they bump into Luke and then they're kind
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: of running around a little, and then the good doctor
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Liam Neeson shows up and with his two assistants, and
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I'm suddenly drawing a blank on what happened after that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, they all get together and there they're like having
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: drinks and sitting by the fire.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have dinner and they're kind of discussing what's
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: going on, and Liam Neeson feeds them. I don't remember
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: his name and everybody else's name down pat but not
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: his doctor Liam Neeson.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Doctor David Morrow, Doctor David, doctor Morrow Tomorrow, doctor Tomorrow.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, so doctor Morrow. Oh it should be said that
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: in between before Nelle gets their apologies, uh, doctor Morrow,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: when choosing people for this sleep study, talks to his
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: assistant and they specifically state that this isn't really a
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: sleep study. It's a study to see how people will
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: react in this house that they are going to lead
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: them to believe is and just see how like the
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: group mind works and how hysteria works within a group,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: and they want to get a lot of like jacked
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: personality types for that.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So he's lying to them about the study and
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: they all have sleep disorders.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're kind of sitting around at dinner discussing
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: their sleep disorders. Nell mentions that she doesn't really have one,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: and they're like, well, you said you were having trouble sleeping,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: And it's because she still imagines hearing her mother knocking
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: on the wall between rooms with her cane to get
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Nell to come to her. But yeah, they're all discussing
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: their sleep disorders and then they're talking and he hands
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: out these packets that they'll have to do with all
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: these little tests for the study. And he then tells
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: them the story about the Cranes and the people who
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: originally built the house, because Nell asks whose house is this,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: so he says, oh, this is the home of the Crane's.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Hugh Crane had this wife and they loved children, and
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: they wanted to have children so bad that they never
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: had any though, so that's why there are children carved
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: all over the house because he had wanted to be
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: a father so badly. And you're like, okay, because if
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: you look at his portrait at the top of the stairs,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: he looks like a fucking goblin mixed with a Frankenstein monster,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: like Jesus.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Very angry too. You made a good point of like
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: who would want this picture of them painted in the
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: house because it's very foreboding and he looks super super
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: pissed off.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: So oh and it kills me because later they have
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: a photo, an old timey photo of him, And I
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: love old timey photos and movies because if the budget's
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: not there, it is just a movie. They put a photo,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: they put Cepia tone over and oh my god, the
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: photos for this for this one, for Hugh Crane. They're
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: rough because it you even were like, what's up with
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: his face? And I was like, oh, they put makeup
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: on him, so we looked like the painting, except the
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: makeup is so poorly done. It looks like makeup you'd
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: see it like a theme park, except it's for a photograph,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: so it doesn't work the same.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: It does not.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: No, that's there. That kind of makeup is for a
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: different kind of thing. So yeah, they all go to bed,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: and having known that, and as they're going off to bed,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Luke runs over and tells them that he had been
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: talking to doctor Liam Neeson and Leam Neeson m d.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: And he says actually because he had told him that
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: the wife had died. And Luke's like, no, so she
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: didn't just die, she killed herself. So they're like, well,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: that's creepy. And they go off to bed and the
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: doctor mentions that what.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: No, no, nor are you doing. I'm putting my elbow down
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: to further to like lean in and listen, and you
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: need the DVDs for just continue lady.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Oh, I apologize. While they're all sitting down to dinner,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: one of the assistants is having some sort of freak
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: out about how this house is creepy and haunted and
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: she doesn't think that Crane has left, and Crane takes
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: this as a sign to whip her in the face
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: with a piano wire, which I still think was a harpsichord.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: That was hilarious though, because she's just like, I can
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: feel it. It's in the air, it's in the sofa,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: it's in this and then wap. I'm like, did you
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: feel that? Because it fucking got whipped in the face.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, And also think about this, This definitely takes place
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: over multiple days, right, And he literally tells them get
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: her to the hospital and then come back, I need
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: you guys, and we never hear from them again, and
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: he never mentions them once after that.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the assistants take the lady to the hospital, right.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Because one of them is the assistant one assistant assistant
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: takes the other one to the hospital and they are
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: never seen or heard from again, and they and he's
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: literally says come right back, I need you here, and
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: they never mentioned them again. It's like they don't exist
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: after that.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, would you go back to that, I'd like, no, no, no,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: fam I'm going home, but he doesn't.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Even mention them. He's not like, hey, where are my assistants. Way,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: they're not coming back. They're just like gone, gone out
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: of existence. Yeah, So anyway back to them going to bed.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: They go to bed, and then in the night they
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: start eleanor or sorry. Nelle wakes up and starts hearing
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: all these weird noises at her door, like banging and
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: aggressive creaking, and so she hears THEO shout and they
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: have a shared bathroom between their rooms, and she runs
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: to her room where they hear all this banging and creeping, creaking,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: and it sounds like someone's trying to get into their door.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: And then they start experiencing cold spots where they're starting
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: to breathe and you can see their breath, and they're
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: starting to get really freaked out. And then it sounds
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: like whatever it is has moved into Neil's room, but
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: she had closed the door to the bathroom, so when
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: the door handle starts turning, she locks it. Something starts
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: banging on the door, and then Luke starts banging on
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: the door to Theo's bedroom, where they go to investigate,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: but nothing seems to happen. They then get told by
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: doctor Morrow.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: You're welcome there, you gos.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Uh Doctor Morrow, that it's probably the pipes. Luke helps
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: them figure out that it's probably the pipes creaking because
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: THEO had just taken a bath and maybe and Theo's
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: brilliant suggestion for the cold spots, maybe there was a
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: window open somewhere, could be anywhere in the house, but
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: that was enough.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: It's a draft.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So doctor Marr tries to kind of dissuade them,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: but he is also in private talking about how the
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: original plan of telling them the story and then giving
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Luke the next piece of the story so he can
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: share it is already clearly starting to have an effect
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: on the group, and from there they kind of just
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: brush it off some it's a little weird, but this
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: is when it starts getting weirder for Nell. Everybody else
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: is kind of wandering around and doing whatever, except for
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Catherine Zada Jones, who's hitting on well now.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: The whole time. Well because yeah, because Luke is trying
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: to kind of be playful with her and she just
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: like daggerized at him, like, no, stay away, I'm more
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: interested in now anyway.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Pretty much, Well, she does mention she has a boyfriend
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: and a girlfriend and they just hate each other.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: And that's why she's like, I just want us to
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: move in together, but they don't like each other. Like,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: It's weird.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Typical problems, so normal.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Mostly from this point, I'll be focusing on Nell because
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: everyone else is kind of just running around doing what
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: the fuck? Ever? Uh Nell is doing tests and she
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: notices that or she she's sitting in front of the
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: world's largest fireplace.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Jealous of that.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: You can like, like, Austin here is six six, He
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: could easily just.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Whoa six five, sweetheart. Come on, you don't need to
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: You don't need to lie like I do to people.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: I'm six five, okay, uh short king over here. So
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: he could clear the fireplace, no problem.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: You could throw a rave inside that fireplace. It's huge.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could ease the lavomit a good ten fifteen
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: people in that fireplace.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Easy, prefer not when it's on fire. It's true.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: So, uh it has these long chains that hang down
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: for the curtain on there. And so she's sitting there,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: she hears some noises around that sounds vaguely of ghost children,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: because the ghost children can't just outright talk to her.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: They just have to moan her name randomly and then
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: make nondescript word and you're like, what is that? What
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: is that? What are you saying? What are enunciate? You
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: want me to help you, and you can't enunciate. So
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: she sees something in the fireplace. She gets very freaked out.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Everybody comes to see what it is, and they don't
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: see anything but this giant flu. And if you don't
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: know what flu is, it's the thing that you use
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: to open up the fireplace because you can close it
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: off so that way the airflow will stop. Which is
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: it's what you used to open it, except it is
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: a good four foot by four foot lion's head, Like
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: it's a full round lion's head that swings on a pendulum.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: And you're like, who the fuck needs a flu like that?
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: You've seen the size of the damn fireplace.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: But again, it could have been a pole. And they're like, nah,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: we need a giant swinging lion's head for that.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: It's gotta be It's gotta be boogie man.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to go with the lion statues on top of
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: the fireplace, Huh that appear to be life size, So
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: they kind of brush off that things were weird for her,
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: and they continue to do this through the film, but
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: then she keeps experiencing more and more things. She experiences
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: ghost children talking to her.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: In the sheets because they can only apparently travel by
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: fabric by fabric, and it's very upsetting when that goes
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: from the curtain to the bed does it just looks
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: so fake, looks like they're swimming like through the It's
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: just real bad. And then their faces just remind me
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: of the faces from the Jim Carrey Christmas Carol of
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: how all the faces are just fucking obsessing. Oh my god.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: So the kids are clearly trying to communicate with her,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: and she's trying to figure out what they want. So
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: there's an incident where someone writes welcome home Eleanor in
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: what appears to be paint or blood over Hugh Crane's
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: big ass portrait, and everyone's accusing each other, but no
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: one knows who did it. And but there are these
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: little footprints nearby, and so she sees them again later
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: and follows them into this study that for reasons, is
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: hid behind a bookcase. You're living in a fucking mansion
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: and you had to hide the study.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I've always wanted something like that where you pull open
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: a door and you know there's a fucking hidden room.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: It can be a hidden room if you just put
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: a bookcase where the door.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Was boss level right there. Yeah. One day, so.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he uh. She goes and finds the study. And
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: this is where it's getting really hard to follow the
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: plot line, because you know what the doctor's doing, and
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: you know that something is clearly haunting the house, Like
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: you know, she's not really imagining this stuff's happening. You
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: know something's going on that's weird, except it's not entirely
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: clear what the hell's supposed to be going on. They
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: put they piece it together in such a broken way
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: that you have no idea what the hell's happening. So
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: she they one of the ghost children appears in the
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: mirror in this study and tells her to look at
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: the ledgers. And she's looking at the ledgers, which she does.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: They don't really clearly specify what they are, except that
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: it keeps a log of the workers at his mills
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: and their ages, and really have to like piece that
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: together by yourself.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: I had to ask you, I'm like, what are we
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: looking at? But a bunch of ten and twelve year
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: olds are dying these medical logs? Is this just like
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: a journal? Like what is this?
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah? So she's looking at the logs and notices every
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: kid that's like eleven or twelve years old is going
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: missing or like they seem to be dying because they'll
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: cross out their names and put.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Across Yeah, alright.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: P yeah, he doesn't write that. So she runs to
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: THEO tells her what's going on. Theo's like, yeah, this
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: all sounds a little weird. So when didn't you go
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: to sleep?
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Good night?
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And the next day she sees these photos of
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: what is Crane's second wife, and the photos confusingly move
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: one photo at a time to point to the fireplace again,
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: where she ends up finding bones skulls, and so shit
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Nell loses her shit, runs to them, tells them what's
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: going on, says something's weird, says he's killing the children.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: He's killing the children, And you're still going, so what's
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: happening with the kids? Like why is he? Why? And
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: also why are they there? Like what they really like
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: wait to the last possible second to vaguely explain the
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: plot to you. So she's clearly having some sort of
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: manic episode over the whole thing, and everybody else has
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: experienced some form of creepiness, but not enough to be like, oh,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: this is definitely haunted. And so because she's having this
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: episode and they're like what the hell is going on
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: and they're starting to freak out, Doctor Morrow folds immediately.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: He is like wet. He's just like a wet ragg
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: You just or what's the term when you fold really easily.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. He said he was wet, and I'm like,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: where are you going with this wet napkin? Maybe he
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: just what blanket?
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: No, that's just that's someone who's lame water. What please
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: fold water for me? Anyway, he folds, he's got a
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: jelly spine. He's literally doing a test to get this
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: exact fucking reaction. And he's like, all right, I'm calling
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: this and you're like, geez, that took like nothing, yeah.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Right, but it's real shit. I don't think he was
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: anticipating real shit to happen.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, wasn't he remember? And he's recording stuff.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: He believes that she painted welcome home eleanor herself. Yeah,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: and he believes she's creating these delusions. But now that
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: she's getting more sucked into it, suddenly he's like, no,
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: we can't do this anymore, Like, but this is literally
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: what you were hoping for out of your test. This
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: is the direction you were hoping to go. It's it's
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: a terrible test if you just call it.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Man, So too real, I'm done. I'm not signing up
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: for this anymore. We're leaving.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So he decides to call the test and come clean,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: and he explains to everybody what's going on, and shockingly,
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: everyone's pissed to find out this has been a scam,
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: except that also.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: It's real. It's not it's like really happening for real.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And they can't leave yet because it's night and
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: they're locked in, and uh Nell is starting to lose
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: her fucking mind and they're like worried about her because
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: of what they're blaming him for it. She's trying to
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: save the children because he just won't let them leave.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: He can never let them leave, and I don't know
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: what that means.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Still, Yeah, what's the deal with locking the gates? Like,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, are you worried about ghosts getting out? Because
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: let me tell you a friend, they can just float away,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: So what is what the chaining them is?
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Ghosts could get out, then Nell wouldn't need to be there.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So I never I don't understand
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: why they were chained in, like do we know, yeah.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: To keep the place secure.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I remember they made a comment about it in the beginning,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: like why are there so many chains? And he Bruce
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Dern was like, he said something I don't remember, but
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: it just seems a bit odd to chain it up
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: so much because it was like almost too convenient that
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: they were trapped in there. Yeah, I would have just
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: fucking climbed the damn wall. I don't care.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: So the latter half of the film is them what
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: the latter half it's so fancy Nell running around trying
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: to solve the mystery. Everybody else is trying to keep
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Nell from hurting herself because they don't know what's going on.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Everyone slowly coming to the realization that this is not fake,
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: this is really happening, and Nell trying to save the children,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: though were not entirely clear why they were in danger
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: to begin with.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very weird movie plot wise.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Being honest, it's fun to watch but yeah, if I'm
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: not gonna go my further into what goes on with
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: the plot, they do like I mean, like everyone kind
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: of gets on board, but this is real, and then
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: suddenly they realize the danger is actually a foot but
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: it's it's yeah, it's not a good movie per se.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: It's just fun to watch because there's so much going on.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: And but they're like everybody's got some instance where they're
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: really over selling it acting wise, where they're acting a
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: little too hard and it comes off as cheesy, especially
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Nell Nell, Like there are times she gets way too
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: into it. The CGI is just goofy. Sometimes there's a
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: part where our hair's moving around. Any CGI they did
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: to Nell was horrendous. But there's a part where like
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: the kids are twirling her hair up into the hairstyle
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: of Crane's wife, except it doesn't even look like it's
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: either her hair or it's attached to her head. Yeah,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: and then and then the and again this is the
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: main plot. The main ghost portion of the plot is
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: so weird to follow, Like you get that he's bad
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: and he's keeping the kids there and she has to
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: set them free, but it's still not entirely clear why
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: he wanted to keep the kids there in the first place. Yeah, like,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: what what was your motive?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: He always wanted kids, and.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: He kidnapped so many kids and kept their spirits in
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: the afterlife because.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Science, I don't know, and he was murdering them because
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: he had to feed the fireplace. That thing was obviously
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: an entity, you know.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where they're like the plot, like, they
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: didn't it clearly explain what was happening. They explained it
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: in pieces, and by the end it was too late.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: I'm just making sit up at this point because I
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: wasn't even paying attention to the plot, to be honest,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: I was paying attention just to the wacky CG and
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: that was pretty much. Yet, after the time that it
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: was revealed that it was not a sleep study and
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: like about insomnia and shit, I was like, Okay, Kuama,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: tune out. Now, I'm gonna go for this fucking ride.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: And it's does not disappoint if you just kind of
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: have that mentality about it. Yeah, don't go into this
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: movie wanting a good plot. Don't go into this movie
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: wanting even good acting. It does have a fantastic cast though, no,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: not their best work, but yeah, that's good. Thank you.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: You're on the podcast, car thank you. Probably not gonna
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: ge pick up. I'm gonna sound like a crazy person.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: There was a car horn going on. Wow. Thanks. I
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: know if you haven't gotten that I'm crazy after one
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty four episodes, maybe you should go back
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: and listen to all of them. A boy. So yeah,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: yesh man, so much stuff. I could go on for
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: so long about this movie and how wacky and silly
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: But Nate, it's definitely not one of It's not like
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: a top horror film. It's not gonna scare you. But
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: if you just want some cheesy fun, it's not like
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: the budget while it wasn't you've done cgi, it was
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: absolutely used in other places. Like I think the budget
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: for the set itself was a huge portion. They built
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: a massive, absolutely obscene set for this film, and like
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: the quality of the setwork is amazing.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: It really is.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, is it weird, is it creepy? Yeah? But
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: did they put a shit ton of money into making
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: this house? Also? Yes, so it looks really cool.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I believe that they spent about eight million dollars on
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: the mansion set. I think I've read that somewhere, So yeah,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: definitely a pretty solid budget. We will definitely have to watch.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: There's another movie from the same year called House on
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Haunted Hill, which is it, Yeah, which is a remake
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: of the fifty three movie I think, so we've got
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: to do that at some point because I haven't seen that,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: but I do own the screen factory. So yeah, it's
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: definitely a weird movie. Definitely not that great, but again
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: it is still enjoyable in a sense. So I still
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: recommend watching it if you haven't seen it, just so
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: you can get you know, get your own opinion on it.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: But that's something I will definitely recommend to watch. There's
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: anything else you have to say about this as a whole, No,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: the other thing, I the only other thing I have
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: to say is that we did watch this on Hulu
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: and uh the sound design was not great. I don't
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: know if that rings true on all streaming, uh, like
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: you know device Yeah, yeah, that sound was It was
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: not a good sound mix, and it could just be Hulu.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: Actually, you know, come to think of it. Okay, So
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: like what I think, I don't know if you have
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: it in the trivia in here.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Just say it.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: So when uh in order because there was a lot
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: of creaks and moons and stuff sounds. Yeah, the creaks
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: and moans heard throughout the house were recorded and then
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: played during filming in order to get a more natural
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: expression in fear out of the actors. If you really
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: think about it, the times the audio was the worst
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: is when there was something going on around them, like freaking,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: and then suddenly they were much quieter and harder to hear.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: I was, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I was
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: more referring to any time something big happened on the screen,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: like a crash or like something like that. There was
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: one point something fell and it just wasn't I don't know,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: it wasn't very crisp crisp. It could be Hulu. I
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's like that on the Blu Ray
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: or on Voodoo, but yeah, Hulu's audio was really just
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: not that great. So that's really the only other thing
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I have to say about the actual overall movie. There's
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: no mid or a post credit scene, so don't worry
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: about hanging out through that. And some trivia here, we've
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: got Liam Neeson nicknamed Catherine Zeta Jones the Welsh Gazelle
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: because they repeated a running take time after time, and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: he could not keep up with her. That's pretty funny.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: We already talked about how Stephen King wrote the first
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: draft of the script. When it fell through, he worked
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: it into Rose Red. This is the second adaptation of
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: the book. Oh sorry. This second adaptation of the book
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: was going to be titled The Haunting of a Hill House,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: which was the original novel title. It was shortened to
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: The Haunting to avoid confusion with House on Haunted Hill
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: from nineteen ninety nine. Makes sense. Catherine Ceda Jones and
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Liam Neesen were so frightened on the set that neither
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: of them wanted to film thereafter dark fucking I would
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: feel the same way. I bet Steven Spielberg was so
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: disgusted by the quality of the final product of the
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: film that he removed his name and ensured that credit
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: made no single mention of him. That is probably a
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: good idea, there, Bud, pretty smart idea. Let's see, then
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: we have some goofs so at around twenty two minutes,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: when Nell and THEO first find the mirror slash carousel room,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: they step onto the revolving floor twice. Can confirm and Honestly,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: if I didn't read that, I'm wondering if I would
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: notice it, because it's blatantly obvious because there's a there's
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: a shot of them like at their feet and they
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: jump on, and then there's an overhead shot of them,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: and then they jump on again, and you're like, yeah,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: that's I don't know how you miss that one, guys.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: At around forty five minutes, when Nell is doing the puzzles,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: doctor Marrow gave her. The first two we see are
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: done with a green magic marker, yet we see her
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: literally use a pencil seconds later, no green marker in sight.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: That's kind of funny. This one I'm gonna take out.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: I noticed that, well I did. I thought it was weird.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I noticed it, but I didn't think it was I
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: thought it was still to the side of her.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: See, because it's swung directly in front of her, so
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: they forward where I should read that then, So when
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: the spirits are moving Nell's hair, she jumps up and
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: bumps into a hanging lantern, causing the light to alternate
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: on and off her face, and she steps forward, putting
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: the lantern behind her, but the light on her face
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: still alternates. See for me that scene when it swings
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: in front of her face and she steps forward. I
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: kept expecting it to be over here for you to
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: see it again because she was stepping towards it, But
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: it never comes back into the shot again. So I'm like,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: is someone just walking the light forward? Is it's just
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: still going because she's definitely stepped close enough that she
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: would still be next to that light at that time. Right.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I still thought I saw it kind of like
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: I thought I saw it like next to her. But anyways,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: when Nell is pulled off her bed whilst witnessing the
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: windows changing the string pulling her as briefly visible, I
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: didn't see that. Uh these are two that I did
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: not see. Huh, Okay, I'll skip those. But yeah, there's
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: a couple. There was a couple like crew visible here.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Didn't see those. I did see this one though, when
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: the oval from the gate falls on Nell's, Doctor Grimlin,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: doctor Morrow and THEO struggled to lift it from the car,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: But as Luke jiggles the door from the inside, you
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: can see that the spikes are made of rubber. As
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: they bend against the door, you could see that. So
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: that was kind of funny and uh, now we're in
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: thirty five minutes. The strings pulling Luke on the carpet
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: are briefly visible. Saw those and this one. You gotta
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: confirm this one for me because I was not paying
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: attention because I forgot I put this one in there.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: But after the portrait of Hugh Craig Craig, I thought
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: it was crane.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: It is crane. It's probably just a type.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's marked up with red paint. It is
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: said that missus Dudley will take care of it, and
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: the effort to remove the paint is seen later. However,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: the Dudley's left early with Mary and Todd to get help. Additionally,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: they locked everyone in who remained in the house. So
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: did they say that Did you hear that mention?
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: No, So this one might be a fucking dud Then
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I'll delete that one. It will act like we didn't
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: read it.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: We didn't read it.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: It never happened. So this has a five point zero
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: out of ten on letterbox and then it has hey,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: ay whopping two point two out of five on the
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: letter box. We watched this literally three years ago, February third,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: As I have it in my letterbox, I gave it
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: a three then, but I'm I'm bumping this down to
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: two and a half because, uh, it's definitely bad, but
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  Speaker 1: I still enjoyed it, So I can't give it a
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  Speaker 1: three because it's not a good movie. So I'm putting
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  Speaker 1: it right in the middle, like and think it was
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  Speaker 1: necessarily bad or good. I enjoyed it even though the
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  Speaker 1: story and the acting was not that great, so I
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  Speaker 1: give it. I'll give it a two and a half
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  Speaker 1: out of five.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I gave it.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you gave it, two and a half out
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  Speaker 1: of five. Yeah, because like you know, like we've been
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: saying this whole time, it's not really I mean, it's bad,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not like bad bad for me. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: still enjoyable.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's similar to and stick with me here, uh
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: thirteen Ghosts, where like now, thirteen Ghosts to me is
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: a really good movie, but it's more like the rewatchability
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  Speaker 2: for me. It's just like, yeah, I can put it
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  Speaker 2: on because it's like I can turn see something amusing
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  Speaker 2: and go back to what I'm doing now. Obviously thirteen
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  Speaker 2: Ghosts is a much higher place in my heart, but
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  Speaker 2: I feel like this one is just one like Thirteen
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  Speaker 2: Ghosts where it's easy to put on.
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  Speaker 1: Watch Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's easy to put
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  Speaker 1: on and watch for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. And at least the thing with Thirteen Ghosts, I
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: would say ninety percent of that is practical.
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  Speaker 2: They do have that going forward.
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  Speaker 1: We do have a lot of good practical shit in that.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Beck, I just wish you could make one more movie.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, that is The Haunting from nineteen ninety nine.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely go check it out while it's streaming, or buy
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: it or do whatever you want with it, but definitely
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: check it out. I believe we will be back with
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Corey next week and we're gonna be reviewing some indie
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: movies that were sent into me into me sent WHOA,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a weird watch. No, they were sent
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: into my inbox on Facebook and they were asking for
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  Speaker 1: a review, So we're gonna do. I think we have
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: three to review, so we'll kind of we won't talk
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: about them as in depth as we do you know
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: the one, but I want to mention them, get the
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: director's name out, and have you guys check these films out.
• 1:11:57
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• 1:12:19
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