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Patriots Unfiltered 7/11: Looking Ahead to Training Camp Positional Battles, Germany Game Update, Great Debate Continues · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 6: And she has now popped up a few times in
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  Speaker 6: Tom Brady's presence.
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  Speaker 4: Is that what you're talking about? Really?
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  Speaker 3: Kim Kardashian, he brought us that whole claim.
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  Speaker 4: Well, there's other things I blame on.
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  Speaker 3: at Jillette Stadium and the dog days of the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: for the season and the preseason and by you know,
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  Speaker 3: just as busy now as we are during the season,
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  Speaker 3: aren't we.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like you guys are pretty busy talking about Kim.
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  Speaker 6: Kardashian, also Evan Lazar and Patriot's Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, Tom Brady might be a thing with her.
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  Speaker 7: So I think that I was actually texting Veronica and Nico.
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  Speaker 7: I was like, wow, Kim Ky on our sidelines, could
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  Speaker 7: you imagine.
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  Speaker 3: Like forget it?
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  Speaker 4: Forget it?
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  Speaker 3: We talk about social media collaboration.
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  Speaker 6: Head a first.
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  Speaker 3: Uh so it's deuced, it's it's Paul, it's me, it's
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  Speaker 3: faith in the booth because Matt Morrel is on vacation,
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  Speaker 3: probably at some Marvel Cosplay.
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  Speaker 4: Convention, trying to yell at people.
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  Speaker 3: So we're having no, just just a little back, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a little insight based. We're having a meeting last week
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  Speaker 3: about you know, traveling and you know, roles and responsibilities
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  Speaker 3: on the road a little bit. And our social media
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  Speaker 3: manager who was on vacation this week. Auh. He said,
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  Speaker 3: you know, why don't we dress up for all our
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  Speaker 3: road games? So when we go to Dallas with cowboy
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  Speaker 3: hats when we're in Miami, it's like, what are you
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  Speaker 3: talking about? So he's become cospay cosplay parrots. That's his new, uh,
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  Speaker 3: his new.
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  Speaker 4: He's he's off in Montana right now. I think living happened.
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  Speaker 3: No idea is well, he's started it by saying, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's going on vacation in my Tana and he and
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  Speaker 3: his friend are going to dress like cowboys.
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  Speaker 4: I think he should.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, that's the whole plan. They're going to like Montana, Utah.
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  Speaker 8: They're doing a whole like cowboy.
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  Speaker 4: So you have to dress like that? Yeah, I think so, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think you do.
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  Speaker 6: It's a theme.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so to dress like.
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  Speaker 4: When when in Hawaii? Is that all you wore T
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  Speaker 4: shirts and shorts?
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  Speaker 8: But there were a couple of floral pattern shirts worked
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  Speaker 8: in I promise you yes.
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  Speaker 4: Of course.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, all right, so what do we got? No? No
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  Speaker 3: news on Hopkins. I haven't heard anything. No.
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  Speaker 4: I mean A very minor little line that Mike Reaes
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  Speaker 4: included in the Sunday notes this week about indicating that
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  Speaker 4: Tennessee quote has been more aggressive.
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  Speaker 3: It was a minor line, but it caused ripples in
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  Speaker 3: Patriots Nation because a lot of people if true, I'm pissed.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard that a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I just don't know what the definition of more aggressive?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Every day?
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  Speaker 3: Whatever?
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  Speaker 4: Are they badgering him or did they offer him more money?
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  Speaker 9: Right?
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  Speaker 4: If it's the latter, I'm pissed. I would agree with
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  Speaker 4: Patriot's Nation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But if it's if Patriots should be aggressive, let's
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  Speaker 3: put it that way, right, I yes, I think we
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  Speaker 3: all agree.
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  Speaker 4: I do.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I just I look at what they have,
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  Speaker 8: and it's it's hard to really say they've got enough.
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  Speaker 8: And you know, even if you think that they are
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  Speaker 8: better than some people think that they are with what
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  Speaker 8: they have.
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  Speaker 3: The thing about it is, if a lot of things
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  Speaker 3: fall the right way, they could have enough. But that's
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  Speaker 3: a big If we know about Hopkins, he's a known entity.
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  Speaker 3: You bring him in, you know what you're gonna get.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm gonna get out of Thornton.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm gonna get out of Born.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really know what I'm you know Parker and
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  Speaker 3: s Yeah, we.
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  Speaker 8: Haven't seen him, yeah, you know, And and that's a
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  Speaker 8: big thing that stood out to me was just and
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  Speaker 8: that was you know, some of the reason why I
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  Speaker 8: came out of Ota is a little bit like, Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: I've never.
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  Speaker 4: Really thought of it that way. All four of those
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  Speaker 4: guys have made well, you.
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  Speaker 8: Just haven't seen and Myers is just was everything, you know,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, and you knew you could count on him
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  Speaker 8: if anybody else got hurt. If you have Meyers the
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  Speaker 8: last couple of years, a we have somebody that we know,
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  Speaker 8: you know, can at least make some plays on third
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  Speaker 8: downs and that kind of thing. But we haven't seen
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  Speaker 8: it from Smith Sustre yet. I don't know what his
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  Speaker 8: health status is. We you know, it's hard to count
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  Speaker 8: on Thornton. We all want him to be good, but
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  Speaker 8: just on paper what we saw in OTAs, they didn't
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  Speaker 8: have enough depth. So whether it's DeAndre Hopkins or going
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  Speaker 8: out and just trying to get another you know, middle
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  Speaker 8: of the road kind of NFL player that might you know,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, they're famous for that kind of stuff. With
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  Speaker 8: Evan what was your guy from from Washington a couple
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  Speaker 8: of summers ago, you know, like Morris Harris, like, you know,
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  Speaker 8: like no, but but that's the kind of depth I
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  Speaker 8: believe you can right now, Like you don't have those
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  Speaker 8: guys to.
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  Speaker 3: Me if you bring in Hopkins. The only question I
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  Speaker 3: have really for the offense is mac how's he going
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  Speaker 3: to be in in the tackles? Yeah, And that's it.
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  Speaker 3: So at least we've whittled, you know. But but now
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  Speaker 3: in addition to that, I've got like, who's my number
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  Speaker 3: one wide receiver?
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  Speaker 4: So we're okay with tight ends? I believe we are. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I believe what I mean, Like there's questions on offense.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's sick He's gonna be fine and high
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  Speaker 3: Henry I said, we're okay with tight ends yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: running backs and running backs and interior line with running back,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and offensive coordinator. I think a lot of
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  Speaker 3: things have you know, been solved here. You know what
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  Speaker 3: was still wondering about, you know, who the tackles are
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  Speaker 3: going to be and how good they're going to be.
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  Speaker 3: And we're worried about, you know what our wide receiver rooms,
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  Speaker 3: the performance of the wide receiver rooms.
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  Speaker 4: Can I just throw something really random out today? Is
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  Speaker 4: the supplemental Draft which is returning for the first time.
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  Speaker 4: I think since like nineteen before.
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  Speaker 3: That's how we got David Andrews, isn't it.
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  Speaker 6: No, No, he's undrafted, Aric.
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  Speaker 4: I think the last guy the Patriots took in the
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  Speaker 4: supplemental Draft was Juwan Cherry, not Jerrod Juwan his brother, right,
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  Speaker 4: and it didn't work out. That was pre Belichick.
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  Speaker 8: I believe it's like two guys, I think, once from
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  Speaker 8: jacksonas State.
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  Speaker 4: I bring them up. Yeah, I don't know if they'll
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  Speaker 4: get selected. I bring them both up because they both
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  Speaker 4: wide receivers with really good size. Once like six ' three.
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  Speaker 4: The kid from Purdue I believe is six ' three
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  Speaker 4: and had a reasonably productive career. The kid from Jackson
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  Speaker 4: State started at Tennessee, played something he wanted to play
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  Speaker 4: basketball and football, so he transferred to Jackson State when
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  Speaker 4: Dion was there, had a really good year two years ago,
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  Speaker 4: did next to nothing last year, and both of them
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  Speaker 4: had academic problems, which are why they're in the supplemental Draft.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like they got arrested, since you know they
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  Speaker 4: were planning on coming back. They had got arrested for something.
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  Speaker 4: They both had academic problems, so it's not like a
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  Speaker 4: character flaw that would cause you to say, now I'm
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  Speaker 4: not interested. Evan's probably right. I don't know if they've
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  Speaker 4: reached the threshold of being able to say, expend a
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  Speaker 4: mid round pick on, but they're going to be available
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  Speaker 4: to sign if they don't get drafted. They need some depth.
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  Speaker 4: They do not the way I would just say, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you do the supplemental draft on your own time. But
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  Speaker 4: they're both wide receivers. They're both pretty big wide receivers
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  Speaker 4: with some reasonable production, you know, especially the Purdue kid.
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  Speaker 4: The Product kid had like sixty or seventy catches, didn't
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  Speaker 4: he Yeah, they're the names that were escaping me.
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  Speaker 6: So they're both. I saw Dan Brugler tweeting about them,
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  Speaker 6: and he said that he he did a full report
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  Speaker 6: like he would for the regular draft, and he had
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  Speaker 6: a UDFA grade on both guys. So they're They're not
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  Speaker 6: needle movers by any stretch of the imagination. But I
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  Speaker 6: don't I can't like panic about the depth yet until
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  Speaker 6: we see who's out there in training camp, because in
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  Speaker 6: the spring, I do think that you take it easy
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  Speaker 6: on some guys, and maybe if they are is like
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  Speaker 6: some sort of reason like Juju has the knee and
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  Speaker 6: Taekwon gets like a little polled hammy, like there's really
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  Speaker 6: no reason to push it in mini camp, right, So
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  Speaker 6: I think that that's part of what was going on then.
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  Speaker 6: But I still just come back to everything I've been
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  Speaker 6: harping on since they showed any interest in Hopkins. It's
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  Speaker 6: just top of the roster like that. They'll figure out
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  Speaker 6: a way to fill out receiver spots four through six
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  Speaker 6: and fill six on the practice squad likely, but I
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  Speaker 6: think they'll figure that piece of it out. It's it's
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  Speaker 6: are they going to have enough top end talent to
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  Speaker 6: really affect the game.
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  Speaker 3: And like we talk about all the time, it's the
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  Speaker 3: whole domino effect. If you have Hopkins as you're number one,
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  Speaker 3: everybody else falls into their natural place. If he's not here,
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  Speaker 3: now you're kind of fabricating a number one. It's a
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  Speaker 3: fake number one, and everybody now number two should be three,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, So you have that domino effect.
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  Speaker 8: I'm still just kind of holding my breath on Smith
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  Speaker 8: Schuster though, so we haven't seen him well, and it's
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  Speaker 8: such a contrast to Myers, who was generally always available
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  Speaker 8: and able to get open and get catches.
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  Speaker 4: I just I haven't seen. Maybe he'll come out there
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  Speaker 4: and it'll look great.
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  Speaker 3: And I think if his health is okay, I think
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  Speaker 3: we know he'll get a certain amount of production. It'll
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  Speaker 3: be somewhere around what he had last year probably, And
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  Speaker 3: I think that.
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  Speaker 8: But it's not number one, no, But I do think
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  Speaker 8: it's one of the you know things in the early
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  Speaker 8: days of camp that if he's out there and he's
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  Speaker 8: you know, consistently getting targeted and coming down with some
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  Speaker 8: tough catches and you know, oh that you know, that
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  Speaker 8: would have been a catch no matter what those kind
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  Speaker 8: of situations, you know, then I think you have an
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  Speaker 8: opportunity to you know, it could kind of go either
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  Speaker 8: way for me, Like, you know, if he's out there
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  Speaker 8: and he's all right, now, okay, we replaced Jacobe Myers
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  Speaker 8: with a guy who looks like he can replace that
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  Speaker 8: kind of production and maybe even build on it. But
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  Speaker 8: if he's not out there and he's still nursing an injury,
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  Speaker 8: and then I'm starting to think, all right, well, you
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  Speaker 8: traded a reliable guy who maybe wasn't you know, the
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  Speaker 8: most explosive, but he was out there most of the
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  Speaker 8: time and could play through injury. So you know, that's
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  Speaker 8: that's one of the things that I think you get
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  Speaker 8: into camp. It could go kind of either way in
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  Speaker 8: terms of am I excited, am I concerned about this group?
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  Speaker 8: He's a guy I really want to see get out
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  Speaker 8: there and see what he looks like.
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  Speaker 3: Another guy that's kind of a question mark right now
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  Speaker 3: is Jack Jones. I'm the more time that goes by
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  Speaker 3: right now that the Patriots aren't doing anything makes me
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  Speaker 3: think that he's going to be on this team.
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  Speaker 2: I think so too. I think so too.
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  Speaker 7: Also off topic, but kind of on topic. I was
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  Speaker 7: telling Paul yesterday while I was traveling, you know, to
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  Speaker 7: Miami and stuff for.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't have any guns in your bag, did
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  Speaker 3: you know?
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  Speaker 7: Okay, But on that topic of bags, there was a
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  Speaker 7: guy next to me. I'm sitting eating dinner. There was
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  Speaker 7: a guy next to me who had two different people
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  Speaker 7: watch his bag while he went to the bathroom. So
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  Speaker 7: he went to the bathroom.
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  Speaker 3: Once strangers, Yes, you can't do that.
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  Speaker 7: Sitting here thinking about our conversation and I'm like, you
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  Speaker 7: don't know them. And then the second time he went
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  Speaker 7: to the bathroom, he was like to this woman next
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  Speaker 7: to me, you look like a really nice person. Do
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  Speaker 7: you mind watching her bag? I'm like, what Because she
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  Speaker 7: looked like a nice person, she could still.
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  Speaker 3: Be crazy and plus I I like, here, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: He could be setting her up too, like oh I
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  Speaker 3: had her I didn't know.
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  Speaker 4: I said that to Samarai. I said, I wouldn't. I
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  Speaker 4: would say, you know, I don't feel sorry, I don't
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  Speaker 4: feel I don't feel.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what's in your bag right now.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not doing that.
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  Speaker 7: I literally was internally screaming and thinking about our conversation
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  Speaker 7: because I'm like, what is going on?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, but I agree with you on Jack Jones. I
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  Speaker 8: just I don't. I really don't know. I mean, me
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  Speaker 8: and Evan are you know, writing previews and I just
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  Speaker 8: I don't really know how to approach it. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: it's just a there's just a level of uncertainty with
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  Speaker 8: him that that I don't really know what they're going
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  Speaker 8: to how they're gonna manage it. Are they gonna allow
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  Speaker 8: him just to be out there at training camp? And
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I'm sure he's not gonna speak at a podium
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  Speaker 8: anytime soon, But how do you manage that? How you
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  Speaker 8: keep them away? From everybody, and you know, to.
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  Speaker 3: Me, I think the and again i'm my caveat here.
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  Speaker 3: My disclaimer is that I don't know anything. But my
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  Speaker 3: assumption is the Patriots have a lot of information by
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  Speaker 3: this time, and if the information was that he it
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  Speaker 3: really was egregious what he did it was, then I
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: think they would have made a move. Yeah, And I
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: think that they have information that said, Okay, we're gonna
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: let this legal process, you know, play itself out because
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: there's an explanation here. Well that's what I'm I'm from
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: the silence, that's what in the non movement. That's what
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  Speaker 3: I'm kind of speculating. But I don't know anything.
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  Speaker 6: So there's a difference between being technically employed by the
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  Speaker 6: New England Patriots and being out on the field and
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  Speaker 6: playing football. And I just wonder whenever you talk to
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  Speaker 6: people this time of year, it's always like, remember, everybody's
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  Speaker 6: on vacation, Like nobody's here, like nobody's practicing right now,
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  Speaker 6: Like the league office is like, you know the same thing.
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  Speaker 6: It's there's not a lot going on in terms of
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  Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff. And I just wonder, eventually,
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  Speaker 6: like I feel like he has to land on the
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  Speaker 6: commissioner's exemplst, Like, I just don't see how you can
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  Speaker 6: allow a player with these types of charges to be
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  Speaker 6: playing football while this legal process is going on, and
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  Speaker 6: the commissioner's exemplest is to take it out of the
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  Speaker 6: team's hands, and the Patriots don't need to force their hand.
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  Speaker 6: And it's not so egregious that the crime is not
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  Speaker 6: so egregious that he needs to be cut instantly, like
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  Speaker 6: it's not. Thankfully, it wasn't that serious. So that's sort
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  Speaker 6: of what the exemplst was created for. And I just
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  Speaker 6: feel like in a couple of weeks, if Camp burrowls
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  Speaker 6: around in two weeks and he gets placed on the
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  Speaker 6: exemplars on veteran report date, I am not going to
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  Speaker 6: be surprised at all.
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  Speaker 7: But can you put him on that list though without
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  Speaker 7: you know, all the evidence being out there and him
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  Speaker 7: actually physically.
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  Speaker 6: The list the list actually had he was he reigned,
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  Speaker 6: So yeah, he's already reigned, But the list, the list
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  Speaker 6: actually has nothing to do with the legal process either.
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  Speaker 6: The league operate it's a private business. The league operates
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  Speaker 6: on its own accord when it comes to these types
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  Speaker 6: of things.
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  Speaker 3: But usually though in the instances where And that's a
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  Speaker 3: fairly new thing. This commission is exempless. It was brought
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  Speaker 3: in for ray Rice. Right, that was the.
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  Speaker 4: Fronto is Adrian Peterson? Was it Peterson? Oh?
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  Speaker 3: You might be right.
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  Speaker 4: Coincidentally, who did the Vikings play the week after Adrian
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  Speaker 4: Peterson was put on that list? The Colts? That would
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  Speaker 4: be the Patriots, Mike uh so.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: But in the in the instances where the Commissioner has
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: used that the evidence was right there, I mean, like,
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: you know, it was overwhelming evidence.
• 15:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I think then to Evan's point, it makes
• 15:01
  Speaker 8: sense that the Patriots are just you know, look, we'll
• 15:03
  Speaker 8: sit back and then it'll be kind of taken out
• 15:05
  Speaker 8: of our hands and we don't have to make a
• 15:07
  Speaker 8: rash decision. And I mean, and the and the shitty.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: He just he can't help.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: The bad part of it all though, is that I
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: thought he looked really good at.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: Just after we had one of our listeners right and say, hey,
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: thanks for not swearing because kid, Sorry, that's a good point.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right after the kids. Ah man, I'm sorry, I'm
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: spoiling young minds. But but but but he was good
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: in camp.
• 15:32
  Speaker 8: And it's just it's unfortunate because I think you looked
• 15:34
  Speaker 8: at that rotation with Gonzales entering, and you know, you know,
• 15:37
  Speaker 8: you have Mills with some versatility, but Jay Jones, And
• 15:40
  Speaker 8: it's just too bad because I think he was kind
• 15:42
  Speaker 8: of poised to be a good I'm not saying that he's,
• 15:45
  Speaker 8: you know, an elite starting outside corner, but he's a
• 15:47
  Speaker 8: good rotational kind of guy that could come in make
• 15:49
  Speaker 8: some plays on the ball, and you know, I I
• 15:52
  Speaker 8: hope it gets worked out, but it's just it's hard
• 15:54
  Speaker 8: to predicted this.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: I think it also just doesn't help him as his
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: his resume.
• 15:57
  Speaker 8: Of like the field, like of course you took a
• 16:00
  Speaker 8: chance on him initially, you got suspended last year.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just how much is going to be
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: enough for them?
• 16:06
  Speaker 8: I guess so far this isn't hasn't been it yet.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know. I you know, I'm just
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: I'm hopeful that maybe there's an explanation. Like I said
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: that on the date, I'm all ears, I can't imagine
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: what that explanation would be, but I'm all ears.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: I would you hear it?
• 16:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, at least tell me, like you just just make
• 16:24
  Speaker 8: me believe because I can't.
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: I can't going to make you believe if he gets
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: she ain't gonna make.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Believe she didn't in that tirade because she was not
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: even addressing the issue. She was addressing a straw man.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, was it even a gun? I don't know.
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, welcome to defense attorney.
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: You know. So this is like also hypothetical because I've
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: seen this happen in a movie.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Clearly I watched too much TV. But so you know,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: when you have someone.
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: Pick up your luggage at a hotel and they bring
• 16:52
  Speaker 7: it downstairs and like you literally just don't see it,
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: or like you have someone load up your car.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: And you don't touch it.
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: I don't have that.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I'm sure that does happen, but no,
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's never happened to me once ever.
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: Like if someone takes your luggage from your room or
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: your place, puts it in the car and then you
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: don't touch it again until you were like, well, the
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: airport could happen.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: It could I don't think that's likely. I think these
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: were his guns, and I hope there's an explanation, like
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I said, though I can't imagine what it would be.
• 17:21
  Speaker 8: But no, I gotta think he just had a bag
• 17:23
  Speaker 8: and he had a bunch of stuff in it, and
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: he threw some stuff in it and he went and
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: he forgot.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: And I don't think that, But that's I can't imagine.
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: I can't make myself believe that he like was like,
• 17:33
  Speaker 8: antake my guns and put them in my bag. Like,
• 17:35
  Speaker 8: I can't imagine that he could be, you know that ridiculously.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Well maybe you know, maybe stupidly he thought that was
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: his check bag and he had another bag that he
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: ended up checking that was supposed to be his carry on.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: It still doesn't matter, but at least, oh, I thought
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I could do that if it wasn't a carry on.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I just think the Patriots are waiting it out,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and there's no need to do something before,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: like the deadline will spur action like they always say,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: and that's not until what August eighteenth or something. I
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: don't think that they know anything more, you know, in
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: a positive light today than they did.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: But don't you don't think that they have all the
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: info now.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: But I think they had all the info from his side, no, no, no,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: three days after it held, but they decided to let
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: it play out.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: But you don't think that they have all the info.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: That is, yes, I think they have all the info. Okay,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: I don't think any of it is positive.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, So that's my next question.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: You're just waiting it out.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Well, will you let me finish? Okay, So we're under
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: the assumption that the Patriots have all the info, right,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: if that info was terrible, do you think that they
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: would have made a move.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: I just I don't know what your examples are, Like,
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: what would quote unquote be terrible.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Like maybe he did have a gang affiliation, maybe he
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: did you know, uh, you know.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: All that is completely irrelevant to me, completely irrelevant to me.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: He had guns in a bag and to the airport.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: That's the only relevant part to me.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: But maybe there's a you know, I'm just saying like,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: if all the information was really bad, I think they
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: would have done something.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get.
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: I think we're trying to say, like to say, if
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: they went through his phone and saw him like in
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: communication with someone like yeah, I've got the goods or whatever,
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: then they'd be like, okay, like that's bad and he clearly.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Was doing that's worse. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: what the good part is, Like that's the worst case scenario,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: I don't need any of.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: The good part was he was just stupid and he.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: The info like doesn't have to include that he was
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: bringing the guns to his hometown to take care of
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: past give to a charity, a past beef with somebody
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: like to me. The best case scenario, to me is awful.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: That's the part. I think they already know the information.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: That's why I'm with Fred.
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: I'm just just tell us, like, what, like, is there
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: some kind of story you can give us that would make.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: As Rose Scipaccio will have some sort of great spin
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: on this if it goes.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: But I don't want to.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: I don't You and I will be because you and
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: I have been sort of outspoken against this. You and
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I will be the enemy and will be.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't want somebody who hasn't learned a
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: lesson like who gets off you know, I want I
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: need a good explanation. I don't need a lawyer's fabrication.
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: I mean to do we think he's on the field
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: for the start of training camp?
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Well, that I wanted to ask. But Evan thinks commission
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: is exempt list, which I think is a strong possibility,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: assuming he isn't on that list. Is he on the
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: field to practice?
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I say yes, you say no.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I think he will be, and they won't make him
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: available to the media, and everybody will be you know,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: I shouldn't say everybody. Ben Volnen will be all pissy
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: about it. But what probably complain to the league?
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Who was the cornerback that we had that got into
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: the fight with the cop? Was it Alfano?
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Alfonso Dinner said he.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: On the field while that whole thing was going on.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: No, I think they cut him, Oh did they? I
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: think when he came back, Well, you know what, I
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: don't remember.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: I think he got on the field for a little
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: bit while that was going on.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: I don't remember. He may have, he may have. But
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: it was also like a second thing.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like he's the.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Guy who did he like hit a cop like two
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: weeks before the draft, right, which is why the Patriots
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: got him in the seventh round.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: I right.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I think it's from Nebraska, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, yeah,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: it's this is a typical I'm going to stop here.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: This is a typical Paul.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I have this much enough to get in trouble and
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I'll end.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Up butchering the timeline and the details something like that.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but what do you think what I'm looking for
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: is think of a guy who I think he was
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: under investigation, who while he was under investigation, was on
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: the field practicing.
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: But are you going to learn anything in that August
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: eighteenth or whatever it is court date of substance that's gonna.
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well so the eighteenth court date, well he will.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: That's when you kind of show that you have probable
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: cause or a trial or charging him with with the
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: the raiment is when they just read out the charges,
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: right and you say guilty, not guilty. The next court
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: date is when you get into this is what the
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: state actually has against him, and this is what the
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: probable cause you you have to have without doubt or
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: whatever that he committed this crime. And what's your argument.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: That's like the first stage of the argument. Usually it's
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: it's not like your best stuff, right, that's usually like
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: do it you save for court for trial for the jury.
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: But this is like what the state's general cases against him.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: So it was just about to say, I feel like order.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: That's great when you're dating somebody helps.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Does she watch law order?
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: We watch?
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: We watched we watched Bull that was she really liked
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: that one. And now we're we watched The Lincoln Lawyer
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: on Netflix that's very good, which is really really good.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: And there are some things that she says, like every
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: once in a while she'll be like that, like the
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: other day, the judge like offered him candy and she
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: was like, no, no judge would ever offer candy in
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: the middle of trial, Like that's just not happening. But
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: there are like a lot of things that she likes
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: about that show that she feels are are pretty accurate.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: So I need to look at that. Is it a
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: movie or a series.
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: It's a serious series.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: It's really good.
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: It's really really well done.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, all right, So just a quick aside with
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Evan here for sure. So she just came back right
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: just like a new season that like split it in.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Is it the same exact people?
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: Pretty pretty much?
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we watched his wife still there. Yep. I love
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: my favorite character. Okay, why is that.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Paul Lincoln Lawyers?
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I've never even heard throwing high heats? Why is that Paul?
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know she's smoke show.
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: I would rather honestly at this point, like if they're
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: going to get rid of him just like, don't have
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: him practice because then we can see like, Okay, he's
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: going to take his spot. Because at this point, it's like,
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: why waste the time of having him practicing even though
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: you know we're still waiting.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: Well, that's sort of why I feel like he's not
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: going to practice. It's because you do have to start
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: coming up with contingency.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: But if he does practice, then that means maybe they
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: feel good about.
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: It and that they're not wasting their time by getting
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: the reps in camp.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: They know they know what the outcome is going to be.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: See, I don't think they have any idea what the
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: outcome is going to be. But to Evan's point, there's
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: not going to be an outcome on August eighteen, I know.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: So they think that they can get him through this
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: season before anything happens. In other words, he's not gonna
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: have to go to jail until after this season, so
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: they might as well play him.
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: I just really do not like.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: That's not a joke, No, I know, I don't. I
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: didn't mean that to be. That wasn't a great White stark.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: That's I think that's what they're doing. I think they
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: figure he can get through this season. If he's not
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: suspended by the league and he won't go to jail
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: until after the season, he's going to jail, yeah, I
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: mean unless he pleads out or something.
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: But I mean to a friend of Patriots, probably, as
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: Fred saying, already know everything that's going to be said
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: in a few weeks, Like there's not going to be
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: any revelations that aha moment that's going to make them
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: change their minds. So they probably already have that information.
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: Or I just think it goes back to the original thing.
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: Wait for the wait for the league to make it
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: first before we feel.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Like we're uh, Powell writes in he says, apparently Jack
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Jones posted on his Instagram story earlier today with the
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: cap should never forget loyalty. I'm in the camp of
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: thinking Jack plays the season. From my understanding, he won't
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: have official court until after the season.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: So that's what I just said.
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: So here's the thing. So on August eighteenth, when he
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: has his first hearing, really of the whole case, what
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: they need to be really really really careful of because
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: the state is now going to have full access to everything, right,
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: so if there's anything incriminating in his cell phone, the
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: DA knows, and that's that's my biggest fear is that
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: if he has any sort of that would be way
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: worse text messages that are saying that anything to do
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: about bringing the gun somewhere, any aggressive text messages towards
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: an individual, anything of that nature whatsoever, And they got them.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: So it's that's what you have. The DA's office is
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: not going to show their hands. So we say that, oh,
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: the patriots know everything. The Patriots know everything from Jack
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: Jones that Jack Jones has told them. Let's hope that
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: Jack Jones is not withholding any information from the organization.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: But that's why I can't. It just doesn't benefit them
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: at all to have him out there, because if something
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: comes out on August eighteenth, that is a worse, you know,
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: thing to say than anything that we know publicly, then
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: it just it looks so bad on the organization.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Just a quick show note being informed that we are
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: having some technical difficulties with the phone lines. Oh so
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: we are not I don't believe able to take calls.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, well the emails are flowing.
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: Will were able to call in the food order however
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: important matters.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta fund. I got a thumbs up from face.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Phones are having trouble. So if you're trying to call
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: us at eight five five past five hundred, probably having trouble,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: so email us at web radio.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: At Patriots School show today way back in the day, Freddie, Yeah,
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: I was going to.
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: Say, this is the only day that you can actually
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: say Paul's foods here because he actually, you know, made
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: reference to the food and.
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: He's that's right, well, fred Fred's food will be coming
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: to don't mention food should not be named.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, So that's enough on Jack Jones.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: What else?
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anything else league wide that you want to bring up?
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: Threads?
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Quiet right now? Threads? What is that? Man?
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Threads?
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Threads.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: We're on threads Patriots and the number two teams in
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: the NFL onreads. I do.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: I did, like like in the immediate aftermath last week,
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: like people are all like signing on too threads. Oh,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: it's much nicer over here. I'm like, there's twelve of.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: You, like literally a second.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: It launched twenty minutes ago, Like it's much nicer over here.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: I know people just don't know. However, give it a minute.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I will say one. I like the aesthetic of it.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Like it's black. It's like very sleek.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Two.
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: I liked how it imports all your data from Instagram,
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: so you literally had to do nothing.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: It was so easy to sign up.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: But you don't have Twitter on dark mode. I was
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: gonna say you could, because if you don't, then you're
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: doing it wrong.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Like the setup.
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: It doesn't have like you know, all the like taking
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: a path to scream and you're right like on Twitter,
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: how it has like all these people you should follow
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: all this information.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it just well I heard threads doesn't look good
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: on desktop. It's really I haven't It's really just made
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: for the things I thought. You can't.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: You can't, you can't do it on this Yeah it's
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: not a film.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I you know, I'm on it. I followed like all
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: the other NFL teams and you know, a schefter and
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: all that stuff. I'm not happy with the experience right now,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: like like there's it's not in chronological order. I get fed.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: It seems like I get fed the same post from
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: this person I don't even know. I like, so I'm
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: not spending a lot of time on it because I'm
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: not getting any valuation.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Twitter goes away, which everybody we're going on like the
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: third week. I've been told that Twitter will no longer exist.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: So do you have an Instagram?
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Yes, but I don't use it.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: I've never used my Instagram.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: I think I wonder if that plays into why you're
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: not enjoying the experience, because I feel like it could.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Be but because I don't enjoy the e But see
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: now you said, you know it was really cool because
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: everything all my data from my So what do you
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: need threads for If it's the same as Instagram.
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: Because you can post a lot more and have conversations
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: like on Instagram.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: If you post as much as people do on threads,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I will want to follow you.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I want a different experience on Twitter that
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: I have on TikTok than I have on Instagram. I
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: don't want the same experience.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Threads is Twitter. It's the same thing.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: You know, But if people are taking people and if
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: if I'm seeing the same posts from the same people
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: on threads that I'm seeing on Instagram, what's the point.
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: No, it's not the same post. I feel like it's
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: more conversational, like you want to respond.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: To something, Okay like Instagram?
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you photos. I think they're hoping that Threads becomes
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Twitter like people use that the way they use Twitter.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: But what I don't crazy, and what I don't like
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: is is I you know, like, how long have you
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: we've been doing Twitter? Like, you know whatever came out?
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: So I certainly wasn't everybody really patrion and I famously
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: said that I will be gone with the patriots went
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: on it. Nine, you know that was so so nine,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Let's say I have to figure out all the people
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: that over the years that I followed on Twitter.
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: Now right to recreate the experience.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: And followed all of those people on threads because I
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: don't all those people on Instagram. I did have an
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Instagram account, and you're right, it was very easy to
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: set up my Threads account because of that. It was all,
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: you know, idiot proof because obviously I did it click here,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: But I don't know, you know, aside from individually like
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: following like Adam Schefter and people like that, same, how
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: many other hundreds of people am I missing?
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: And it's and see the thing that I missed still
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: about Twitter was just when it was there was a
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: posts came in real time and now it's like Threads
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: is just it's an algorithm and so how do I
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: use this to a get information about the team, to
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: be pass out timely information about team?
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: It just seems kind of more like a stream of.
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: Consciousness, Like and I get that part of Twitter that
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: used to be fun where you could just say a
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: random joke that had nothing to do with anything and
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: some people might laugh and respond to it.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: But I'm having trouble finding how.
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: Like this would be useful to us to try to
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: get our information out to the fans.
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: And there is going to be a tab eventually of
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: just the people you follow on threads. The reason why
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: they don't have it yet is because there's not enough
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: people on threads, so they're waiting for everybody to sort
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: of just migrade over. But you know, for me personally,
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: I just I've spent a lot of my life in
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: my professional life building up my following on Twitter, and
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: I don't know if it is gonna migrate over, like
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: you just you just don't know. Like obviously Adam Schefter
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: is his following my grade over if Twitter doesn't exist.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: But for kind of what I'm getting for all of.
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: Us normal people that spend a lot of time building
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: up a following on social media, like, is it gonna
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: is it gonna translate? Like, is it gonna is everybody
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: gonna follow me over to threads? If Twitter doesn't exist
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: anymore in twelve months. And that's that's the other side
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: of what I'm talking about.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Like I don't care as much about that side because
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: I don't really have a huge Twitter following, But I
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: did enjoy the you know the simplicity of being able
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: to figure out what's going on in the league. Yeah
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: in ten minutes, Yeah, right, and now I have to
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: figure out over whatever long you know, I spoil could
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: just sit down and you know, maybe spend an hour,
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: you know, trying to follow as many of those people
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: that I that I want to follow. You know, it's
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: kind of a good way to purge the people that, yeah,
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: you know, we're you know, cluttering up your timeline that
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: you didn't really care about. But if there's so many
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: NFL types, like random beat writers from different cities that
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: you followed, people that we had on our show MIC
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: that would come in and you know, on our pregame shows,
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: and we'd follow them and I would you know, sort
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: of kind of lean on them and figure out which
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: ones of those people I was more more or less
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: interested in that's it's it's just an inconvenience. Yeah, well,
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: I mean tweet deck is a mess now.
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: And that's the same thing. It's timely news. Knowing what's
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: going on.
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: Twitter too, is getting crazy because you could, like for
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: some people, you have a limit how much you can tweet,
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: Like people don't want to subscribe Twitter blue like they're
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: also like random suggested people now on your Twitter too.
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: So I think it's just Twitter is becoming crazy for.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Well, all these social media platforms. We have to remember
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: that private businesses, they're not we don't have a right
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: to them. We don't, you know. It's it's it's a
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: private business that wants us to use it. But if
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: they go away, we lose it, you know. So like
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: if you start to if you start to, you know,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: depend that's what.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: I want platform, Is it going to get my spaced
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: or is he just going to say, you know what,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: I dumped enough money into it, I'll take the law
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: because they don't know a guy with that kind of
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: money doesn't care, like it's it's a loss for him,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: but it's one that he'll make up into the next
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: twenty minutes. So is it just one of those or
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: does it get my spaced and it kind of goes away.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: I just think the biggest problem is that he when
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: he bought it, and we talk about elon, like when
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: he bought it, he decided to go the subscription paid
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: route with Twitter Blue, and in order to get people
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: to sign up for Twitter Blue, he started giving not
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: only just like the like tweet limits and things like
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: that are in their favor, but also the algorithm is
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: now in their favor. And unfortunately, I think what really
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: happened was a lot of like his like crazy political
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: people that follow him because he's leans a certain direction.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: A lot of those accounts are now getting pushed up
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: in the algorithm because they're Twitter Blue subscribers, and they're
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: sending the message that quite frankly, he wants to be
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: out there. So now my timeline is like filled with
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: like all of these political tweets, and I don't follow
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: anybody that has anything to do with politics besides like
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: CNN and like Joe Biden. Like I don't follow any
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: like political reporters.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Or anything anybody that's what you choose to follow on
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: and you and they but but but they're on my
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: timeline like a lot, and you're not.
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about like the crazy like you know, maga
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: people like they're on my timeline constantly, and I'm like,
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: how does this even? Why is this here? And the
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: reason why it's there is because of the way that
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: they haven't set up.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: But I don't mind like charging, you know, like it's
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: a business and you bought this thing for a lot
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: of money and you're trying to figure out how to
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: get a profitable company, you know, frankly, I you know,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: newspapers over the years, they charge you for the newspaper.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: They charge you for the content that they're producing. You know,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: you get charged for the service that Facebook or Twitter
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: is provided. I'm fine with that.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: I'm okay with I'm okay with that too. I just
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: a I never got the blue check mark. I never understood.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: No, I never.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: I never had it when it was free. It never
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: meant anything. I didn't I never. I don't get it.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: But whatever, I agree with you. You know, if they
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: want to charge for him, charge But to Evan's point,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: they're now they realized it didn't work, and they didn't
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: get everybody with a blue check mark to pay for
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: a blue check mark, and two things happened. Number One,
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: they didn't get the money that they wanted to, and
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: their response to that was a lot of people that
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: did pay for the blue check mark, not just politics,
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: but just Randos parody accounts. These are the people that
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: they paid for the the account, and now they're cluttering
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: up your timeline. I don't care right wing, left wing,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: like I don't mind the politics of it as much
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: as Evan does, but I do mind the nonsense, yes,
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: like why am I getting this stuff now? Because they're
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: paying for it, right and they pushing that up to
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: the top of your timeline.
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: Elon greatly overestimated how much we cared about the blue
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: check mark. The blue check mark was cool to have,
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: but ultimately it was it's not worth paying for it.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: And well it was cool to have when you earned it.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Right now you just pay.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: I woke up one morning and I had it, and
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: it was exciting. I'm not gonna lie like, I was like, cool,
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: that's pretty sweet. But once it went away, I haven't
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: thought about it since, you know. And he thought that
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: all of us verified people were going to pay for it,
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: and we didn't, and so they went away from like
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: the ads based model that they had before under the
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: old regime to the subscription based model, and now they
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: are losing money, like really badly, Like they're on this
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: trajectory they'll be bankrupt in twelve months.
• 38:01
  Speaker 8: Did you guys ever get like tweet limited or anything like,
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: because I was I tried to get away from social
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: media last couple of weeks on vacation when all that
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: was happening, But it sounded like like timelines were just
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: just shut down.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, completely.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: You saw like he was complaining of many tweets. I
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: wasn't able to tweet it like it was like the
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: next day or whatever. I think he hit his limit.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like some.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: People thought Twitter was broken at one point because.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Maybe don't tweet every time you have a fish taco
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: and you won't hit your limit.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: Well that that's a that's so the reason why Twitter
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: crashed like a few weeks ago when you were on
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: vacation is separate from like kind of what's going on
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: right now, But it's just another reason why you want
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: a mess.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's a rumor that he he actually didn't
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: pay his bill to a w S for servers, and
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: that's one of the reasons why he's limiting tweets is
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: he needs to limit fotage right now because he doesn't
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: have the server capacity.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: That's exactly.
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: Can I can I ask another question? I'd like to
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: direct it to you, guys. No, I'm interested to hear
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: you guys. New York Times, LA Times getting rid of
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: their their sports section.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing about New York's, right, guys. Everyone's like, oh,
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I can't believe the New York Times paid a half
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: a billion dollars for athletic. This was coming the day
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: they bought that. I saw that.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: So they're really not getting into the sports department. They're
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: just reassigning it outside.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Of the union.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Athletic is going to be the New York Times in particular.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know about the LA I.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Don't know about the LA tipes, but New York Times
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: spend five hundred and fifty million dollars for the athletic.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Of course, this is what they're gonna do. Why are
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: you going to have two sports departments? You know?
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, I just a lot of the old you know,
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: old school guys.
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: Were you know, Oh, I can't believe this is.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: You know, I hav I mean to your point, the
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: athletic created a lot of jobs.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Now, I know they had some layoffs and everything, but
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: it's a new business that created jobs. You know, why
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: are we complaining?
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Well, and this is the guy I figured I And
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: it's not like the sports department was any big shakes anyway. Well,
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: it had been decreasing. I mean that kind of distract
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: one the New York I mean, I'm not a big
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: New York Times fan.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: You know, you don't subscribe to the New York Times
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: for sports, No, because used to for the glow.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: But they do have some of the most storied sports
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: writers in history.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know the Yankees and.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, well, long before this happened, they had stopped
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: really covering their beats. Yeah, they no longer have beat
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: writers for all their different teams. And they have a
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: lot of teams obviously.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: In New York.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not just four, it's more like eight. But
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: there there are some of the most well respected like
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: David you know, like, yeah, I know I know who
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: the public surprise winning columnists from the New York Times,
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: like this is a storied but also like the newspaper
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: even though but they it's but the tabloids in New York.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: They are also responsible for a lot of those guys
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: too in New York.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: No, I'm but I'm talking about the New York Times.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I know you're talking about the New York Times.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: I'm not talking about like Mike Lupica also was a
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: great sports writer in New York who worked by the
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: Daily News.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Right, But when you think of great New York sports writers,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: a lot of them are from the Tabloyd's not just
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: the New York Times.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, management the urine Stream. One of Fred's all time
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: creat his blog was the Getture called.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: He made his mark while he was there in the snow. Yeah.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: So I wasn't shocked.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: But that's what the athletic wanted to do. They wanted
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: to bring down all.
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: I just I just thought I was interested in your
• 41:26
  Speaker 8: response of you know, guys like.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I want to go. I want to push back of that.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think the athletics goal to get the quote,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I don't to destroy newspapers. I think their their their
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: goal was to recreate a national you know.
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Their goal was to be the last one standing while
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: all of the other papers were gone, well all the
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: newspapers were gone.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think they wanted to quote from
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: what's his name Mather maybe, but I don't think they
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: did what they did to destroy newspapers. They felt that
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: they had a better model and they would outlast the newspapers.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: But I don't think their goal was to destroy newspapers.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: But how are they doing too?
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: I mean financially because it seemed like they got so
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: ahead of themselves and we're just hiring. It didn't every
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: single person that they possibly could for like three people, and.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Well that's what you do. I mean a lot of
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: the like serious XM. For example, when they first started,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: they bought content, they bought Howard's sterned, they bought all
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: these people to be to give them the name recognition.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: It's a game of attrition. You have to last it out,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: I know the quote you're talking about. But I'm curious
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: for like our perspectives because we didn't necessarily take like
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: the traditional path of like interning at a newspaper and
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: like you know, answering the phones at night to get
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: scores all did from the high school, you know, And
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: I have that quote. I'm not like sticking my nose
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: up at that at all. But I think the one
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: thing that's like been cool about the way that the
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: new media landscape is is that like you don't need
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: to get that job anymore to like have a platform
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: and to like produce content, whereas before it's like kind
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: of a boys club. Like if you didn't get one
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: of those internships and you weren't on that path, then
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: you had no chance of being in this line of work.
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: And I think it's interesting because on the one hand,
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: it oversaturates the market, which probably makes it less profitable.
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: But on the other hand, like anybody with a laptop
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: can like start a blog now, and if your stuff
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: is good, then you're gonna eventually get into the industry.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: Like Mina Kimes was like on Reddit message boards and
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: now she's on ESPN.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: It's like Curse of Bill Simmons, it really is, yeah,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: because he kind of innovated that whole thing. Yeah, Like
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: I can't get a job doing what I wanted a newspaper,
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: I'll just do it myself. And he's ridiculously talented. I
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: worked with him for a lot of years at The Herald.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: But how many guys do you think think they can
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: do that that don't have a tenth of the ability.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I mean, you know, your Simmons was
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: an innovative kid. Like we used to make fun of him.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie, but he was an innovative hid
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: well ahead of his time in terms of digital media.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm way people like speaking of myself, but I
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: think I can speak for anybody in my Like Bill
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: Simmons is like somebody I've looked up to since I
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: was you know, knew I wanted to do this because
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: of just that. But like Deuce, like you never would
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: have gotten into this industry thirty years ago, Like there
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: would never been an opportunity, Like Pats Propaganda would not
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: have existed, and there would not have been that opportunity.
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: So like you and I are kind of like the
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: people that have made it work in the New Age
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: a little bit.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I mean back in the day, people would say, you know,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: how do I get in the business? I say, well,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: be prepared to move and get a job with a
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: local newspaper and start writing. That's how you did it.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: That was kind of the only way to do it,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: you know. Now, like Evan said, there's a lot of
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: different ways to do it, and but you need to
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: be multimedia. You have to understand basic you know, how
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: to not build a website, but operate a content management system,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: how to film yourself and put video up and put
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: graphics on it.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Podcast.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: The more you can do, you know, multimedia wise, the
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: more chance you have and if you're good.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and it's I mean, it's not just this
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: industry too.
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: I mean when I was, you know, in LA and
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: you'd have young filmmakers who you know, same kind of
• 45:14
  Speaker 8: thing like you used to have to you know, find
• 45:16
  Speaker 8: someone to make your film.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: And now it's like you got a phone. You can
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: make a movie with your phone only. I mean, it's amazing,
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: how you know.
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: And I guess in a way it's leveled the playing
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: field a little bit and you know, really good stuff
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: will you know now be the stuff to stand out
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: because everybody's got the ability to.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Produce and do things.
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: But it's uh, I mean, I was I was going
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: to say, I mean, I think I there's probably a
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: good chance I spent more time in the holy Cross
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: Library accessing the internet to read Bill Simmons page two
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: than I did actually doing like school.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Where Yeah, the written word though was kind of losing
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: ground to all of this, you know, like good writers are.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: There's probably a lot out there, but people don't read
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: as much as they used to. You know, remember fred Edelstein. Yeah,
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: every Thursday he would fact you subscribe to it and
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: you'd get a facts of his of his it was
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: basically pro football. It was Pro Football Talk before Pro
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Football talk. And you would get a fax on your
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: fax machine after you subscribed of all these. You know,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: he'd just throw blank against the wall and you know,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: NFL rumor stuff and he ended up in jail. Yeah,
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: but he was the guy.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: He wass were related, but yeah, fred Edelsteam was.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: He was the guy that had all the rumors and
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: you'd subscribe to this facts that you would get definitely.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: So just real quick for that guy is Alex Mather.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: He was the what was the quote? And you know,
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: the athletics set out to do nothing less than replace
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: newspaper sports sections. We will wait every local newspaper out
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: and let them continuously bleed until we have the last
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: one standing. Yeah. So they predicted the demise. That was
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: their goal, Like that's what they wanted to do. And he,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: ironically enough, he said that to the New York Times. Yeah,
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: back in like sixteen or seventeen or whatever, and then
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: they got bought by the Times, Right, was that part
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: of the plan? Like that's what I was.
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: My question coming out of that was like you said
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: that the Athletic was and was not doing and then
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: they said, what was it?
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: Like five hundred?
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: No, But you're right, I mean knowing, you know, having
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: talked to a lot of these startups that spend all
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: this money up front, their their plan to profitability is
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: to sell. It's their exit strategy. There's never a plan
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: for profitability because they didn't. They know they can't. You know,
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: they have so many investors. There's no way they're all
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: going to make the money that they are promised unless
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: they sell the thing. So you know, that was how
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: they did it. They they bought talent and you know,
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: and and that's it. Then they sold. That's why I'm
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: not shocked at all, you know.
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's been interesting just here on the
• 47:53
  Speaker 8: Patriots beat watching how the Athletic has evolved because I
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: think originally it was just Jeff how the wing the
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: season they had Jeff How and Nick Underhill.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I think it's a good value. I mean, I subscribe
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: to it. You get an email every morning. If you
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: look at the topics, if there's something interested, you click
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: and you read. But I think it's a really good value,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 48:11
  Speaker 8: And I mean I bring up Nick Underhill because he's
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: another interesting kind of guy who you know, started as
• 48:17
  Speaker 8: a traditional journalist but then went back to New Orleans,
• 48:19
  Speaker 8: made his own website and now is like a subscription
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: based model for I think New Orleans NOTT football is
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: what it is. But he's doing great, So I mean
• 48:27
  Speaker 8: it's you know, there's there's different ways to do it.
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: But I just I saw you know, Shaughnessy and all
• 48:32
  Speaker 8: the old school guys kind of like, you know, lamenting
• 48:34
  Speaker 8: the end of of this, and I mean, I think
• 48:36
  Speaker 8: it's just different.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: It's a different thing. It is something I think. Remember
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: the National, Paul, I do remember the National.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: You know, The National was a newspaper that was going
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: to come in and they they spent tons of money
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: on the best columnists and they were going to be
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: the the national sports paper. And their model was they
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: bought all these free I don't know if it was free,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: but all the boxes are around the cities. You know
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: that you put like a quarter in and you get
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: your newspaper out that's there there. That was their way up. Everybody.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: You have no idea what I it looks like an
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: oven almost yea exactly.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: You put your dollar into your four quarters and open
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: it and.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: For somebody like it was the system. I mean they
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: trusted you were only going to take one, but then
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: you would think about its like, what do you need
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: more than one?
• 49:27
  Speaker 8: I remember cleaning them out at March Side and finding
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: what do they call them?
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Slugs? Paul? You might know you grew up in every
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: so what do they call like the quarters that are faked?
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: You're a city.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: You might know how to break the law, Paul, Wow,
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: you cut them in.
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: Get the paper.
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: I feel like just journalism in general, Like I feel
• 49:47
  Speaker 7: like the entire industry is kind of making more cuts
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: than usual this year. I feel like, not just the newspaper,
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: but we've seen you know, the TV station yes as well.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, we're at a critical point in our economy too,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: because you know, it's been hot with inflation and hiring,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: you know, but it's gonna contract. And I think a
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: lot of companies are like, let's do it before you know.
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: And that's but I mean, sorry, bel isn't it just depressing.
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: Like you talk about like the written word is like
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: go on the way out. But meanwhile, we've got like
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: seven new twitters that we have to balance and like
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: you have to, like we just have to figure out
• 50:20
  Speaker 8: how to say something seven different ways in five hundred
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: or less characters. But like nobody's willing to just sit
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: down and read an article anymore, but you know, we
• 50:27
  Speaker 8: have to juggle like seven different social media outlets now
• 50:29
  Speaker 8: to like I don't know, it's just it's really.
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: It's crazy, because it's like I feel like there's so
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: much value in what we do. And I'm not just
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: saying that because of you know, this is my job,
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: but I also feel like, what will we do if
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: you just eliminate all the journalists, Like.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: It's not good. It's part of the pillars of our
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: society is a free and open best.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: And that's why I oka ahead, I'm sorry.
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: And I would say I hate to, you know, use
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: this as an example of how valuable it is. But
• 50:51
  Speaker 7: like the Northwestern's like students like carrying that story and
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: getting someone fired, Like if they wouldn't have gone the
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: extra amount to do that story, what he'd priced off
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: a job?
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Right, now, So it's just no.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: The press is part of their responsibility to hold us accountable,
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: hold the people in power accountable.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: And you know who doesn't do that guys on blugs.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: Bill Simmons doesn't do that.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Well, no, he's entertainment, right, And.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: That's like the reason why people like Shaughnessy are lamenting
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: the law, because that's gonna go like when you don't
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: when you're in the New York Times and you don't
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: have a beat guy covering the New York Yankees, how
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: do you account Times is supposed to be, as Fred
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: just said, like the pillar of the journalistic world, and
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: you don't have a guy every day establishing relationships in
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: the locker room. Now, that's not what I do, Okay,
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: So I'm not trying to tell you like crust to
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: your old journals. That's never been what I've done since
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: I've worked with Fred, and that's most of my adult life.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: But that's that is what the New York Times should
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: be doing and what the Boston Globe should be doing.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: You should be in the locker room or the clubhouse
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: or whatever the case may be, every day establishing relationships
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: and understanding what's going on within the team structure, just
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: like you are if you're covering the state House, you know,
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: you're covering the court, you know, the court beat, you
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: know the whatever you happen to be doing the financial world.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: How do you find these things out if you're not
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: covering them, right, I think if you're just talking about it,
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: you're not covering it.
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: I do think it's tricky. Like the one of the
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: hardest parts for me since I started doing this is
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: balancing those relationships that you do make in the locker
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: room with like the very forward facing world that we
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: live in social media, where now I might be critical
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: of like a play that a player made, and now
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: he has a Twitter account and now he's scrolling and
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: he sees that I got on him for some play
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: that he made in the game, And the next time
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: I'm in the locker room, you know that because they're.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: But that's a good thing. That's a good thing. And
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: that's why I give credit to a lot of the
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: guys like Dan Shaughnessy because or Kevin Mannox. Back in
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: the day, they would be critical and then they would
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: show up in the locker.
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: Room, right, And I think that point, I just I
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: agree that it's a good thing. But I think that
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: for a lot of young incoming sports writers, that's why
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: being critical gets difficult is because.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: To be fair, then just be fair, Just be fair,
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: it would be fair.
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: Following up on what Evan just said, so coincidentally, I
• 53:31
  Speaker 7: ran into Will Anderson in South Florida when.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: We were down there.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: Alabama's Will and Yes and yeah.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: And it was funny.
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: I think he was trying to hide who he was,
• 53:41
  Speaker 7: but when he had a Houston Texans braceletle and like,
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: it was just very I'm like from all the draft steting,
• 53:46
  Speaker 7: it's like I knew who was. Got into conversation and
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: he started, I would say, interviewing me, like how do
• 53:52
  Speaker 7: you handle this situation? Or like what do you do
• 53:54
  Speaker 7: if you know a player doesn't want to talk to you?
• 53:57
  Speaker 7: Like he was like asking me like real questions, kind
• 53:59
  Speaker 7: of just getting the verse of like, you know, us
• 54:01
  Speaker 7: asking them questions. And he said, you know, I really
• 54:04
  Speaker 7: pay attention to who cares about me as a person
• 54:07
  Speaker 7: and who's just here to fill their agenda. And he
• 54:09
  Speaker 7: was like, and that's why, like I will specifically only
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: talk to certain people and only give them interviews. He's like,
• 54:15
  Speaker 7: because I've noticed, like some people don't care about me.
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: They have seen what they post about me on social media.
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: I see like how they talk to me in the
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: locker room. He was like, those relationships matter, and I'm like,
• 54:25
  Speaker 7: this guy is so smart and he's a child, but
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: it's like he's paying attention to those things.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: He's like, people like don't care about me at.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: All, Like they have such a different takeaway from that.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: It was, it was, it was, Yeah, I only talked
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: to the people who have nice things to say rights,
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: but that's sort of the ones who have.
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: And I'm not like saying that that happens like to
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: me necessarily. But like when there's players that you like
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: that you have a relationship with, and I can tell
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: you if you're off air that like, it's harder to
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: be critical of those people. It is because you know
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: those them as human beings, Like you're sure you like
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: them as people.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: That's why that's why I really didn't like, you know,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: during the whole Patricia thing last year. I'm all for
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: criticizing the performance, but when it got personal, fat and buffoon,
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: an idiot and blew, there was no need for that.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: The guy's a human being, you know, he's not stupid.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Maybe he didn't know what he was doing in the
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: job that he had, but he's not a stupid person
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: and he's not a before you know. And it really
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: got personal, and I didn't think that was fair, you know.
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: And then I think he was more so too, referring
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: to like, you know, after a loss, for example, after
• 55:31
  Speaker 7: they lost to LSU. It's like, how you approached them
• 55:34
  Speaker 7: after a loss, and like sometimes you can just ask
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: a question different way. He's like, what do you do
• 55:39
  Speaker 7: if I don't answer the question, you know, the way
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: that you want it. I'm like, it happens all the time.
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: He was talking about how like Saban and like they've
• 55:46
  Speaker 7: done media training has taught them, like if someone asked
• 55:49
  Speaker 7: you a question about someone else on their team, how
• 55:51
  Speaker 7: you focus it around the whole team. I'm like, I
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: literally told him, I said, really, Matt Jones is king
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: of that. He was like, yeah, that's what we were talking.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Bill Belichick is, and that's why so many of the
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: players here are And you know, that's the old Paul
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Brown thing. If it's if it's bad, I did it.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: If it's good, we did it. And if it's great,
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: they did it.
• 56:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I think Jacoby was tough last year,
• 56:14
  Speaker 8: like criticizing him a little bit, especially when like what
• 56:17
  Speaker 8: decision the team had to make on him, knowing his
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: dad was listening, and you know, love love him, love
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: him as a player, but really felt like, I think
• 56:24
  Speaker 8: they could improve that spot.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: You know that was but we did it too right,
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: and we and we had, you know, things to say,
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: and what happened. He would interact with us and respected it.
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: And even when we were talking way back around this
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: time last year about his contract and we sort of
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: envisioned the way it would come out, which is exactly
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: the way it ended up coming out. He sent me
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: an email after he goes, I think you're pretty much
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: nailed back.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing, you know we talked about. Well,
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: you know, now sports writers journalists don't they don't hold
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: him accountable as much. They're not as critical. But back
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: in the thirties and forties, the sports writers would ride
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: the train with the baseball Oh they so they would
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: hide a whole bunch of stuff.
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: The thirties and forties is like it is now, yeah,
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: you guys right there, right, I mean, you know, but
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: the only difference is they don't have their relationships.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: They just treat them like they right way they did,
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: you know, Babe Ruth running through the train and a
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: towel chasing a woman never never never saw the light
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: of day until fifty years later, you know.
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I also always go back and forth on like
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: being a fan of the team that you cover, because
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: I know that's like an old journalism cliche like one
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: oh one. First day of school for me was like
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: take your fandom and zap it out of you, like,
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: don't think it's impossible any sort of. And I I
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: feel like I don't root for the team like I
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: did as a kid, There's no doubt about it. But
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: I grew up twenty minutes from here, like there's there's
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: no way I'm going to remove that, but to.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Say to its sports right, you know.
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: But that's another reason why I think that some of
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: the oldheads think that people aren't critical anymore, is because
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: a lot of the blog boys are are pompom waivers.
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: They're fanboys of the team.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Donorget about that with me. I one might not grow
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: up a Patriots fan. Two, I would never.
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: Work at my alma mater, like anywhere that I actually liked, Like,
• 58:09
  Speaker 7: I would never work at Virgin Attach Ever.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: For that, that's why I would never work at Disney World.
• 58:16
  Speaker 8: That's totally I think for me too, Like I, as
• 58:19
  Speaker 8: I've gotten into this job, as I've developed an appreciation
• 58:21
  Speaker 8: also of just getting to watch the other teams and
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: getting to, you know, see Joe Burrow play and see
• 58:25
  Speaker 8: Patrick whom's playing. You know, as much as when you're
• 58:28
  Speaker 8: a fan, you're rooting for your team, but there's also,
• 58:30
  Speaker 8: I think when you're covering it this close, there's just
• 58:32
  Speaker 8: an appreciation each week that you're gonna get to look
• 58:34
  Speaker 8: at all these excellent, excellent players and maybe they're not
• 58:37
  Speaker 8: on your team, but I can still, you know, unfortunately,
• 58:39
  Speaker 8: watch Josh Allen and be like that guy is awesome
• 58:41
  Speaker 8: and it's fun to watch.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: It's not fun that he's doing it to the team
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: I grew up loving. But yeah, I appreciate, you know.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we're gonna take a break. Paul's foods
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: here and my food is here. We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 15: than with DraftKings, the official daily fantasy sports partner of
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 15: the New England Patriots. To add to the thrill, DraftKings
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  Speaker 15: has millions of dollars in prizes up for grabs every week,
• 1:06:43
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• 1:06:45
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• 1:06:48
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• 1:06:52
  Speaker 15: and pile up points for yards, touchdowns, receptions, and so
• 1:06:56
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  Speaker 7: Patriots fans, you'll want to check out the replay on
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 7: this one. Pat the Patriot is stealing the show tonight
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 7: with his Bank of America mobile banking app.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 16: That's right, folks. So here we see Pat cheering and
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 16: then whammo is that Bank of America life planned.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 7: Looks like he's saving up for some big future moves,
• 1:07:47
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  Speaker 16: And wait, now he's paying back his buddy for concessions
• 1:07:52
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  Speaker 4: No way.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 7: As if that double move wasn't impressive enough, now he's
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 7: beefing up his account defense with security meter. Holy kunoi,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 7: what a performance.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 16: Bank of America's digital tools are so impressive. Patriot fans
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 16: just can't stop banking. Learn more at Bankofamerica dot com
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 16: slash Banking. You must be enrolled in online banking or
• 1:08:16
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• 1:08:19
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• 1:08:23
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• 1:08:25
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  Speaker 1: And now great moments in.
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  Speaker 5: History, Well, I don't know, do you think Cam Newton
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  Speaker 5: would go to the grocery store. No, of course, No,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: he has a guy to do it for him. No,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: Jake Bailey, the punter. He's he's a normal person like
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: us stand in line at Wegmans.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: Is that hang time?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: No, I just saw him from afar and then it
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: was it was weird. It's one of those like you
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: see your teacher outside of school type of thing joke.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 8: It's like Eric's story of getting spotted out and about
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 8: in Providence.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: It's no hiding.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Eric goes, you were spotted Yeah by who.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 18: One of our listeners fan shout out to Richard in
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 18: the Smithfield areas. That guy is like legit, six ' nine,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 18: six ' ten, one of the you know, really tall
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 18: guy walks into the market and I've got my winter
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 18: hat and my mask on, so all you can see
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 18: is like my eyes. He comes straight over to me,
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  Speaker 18: He's like, you're Eric, right, He's like yeah.
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  Speaker 6: From the podcast.
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  Speaker 18: Yeah, it's like I love you guys. Listen to you
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 18: guys all the time. You're awesome. That's the time I
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 18: go to bed, I listen to you guys at the
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 18: n of the day, Like, wow, how does you notice
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 18: me with just my eyes showing I followed you here.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, now we don't worry about that duct tape.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: That's another great moment, all right back here on Patriots Unfiltered.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: I'll give out the phone number, but no one can
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: call it, so eight five five Pats five hundred, but
• 1:10:23
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• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: I thought we had a decent conversation before the break,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: you know, the goings on the state of journalism, sports journalism,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: social media and but we'll open it up now. Whatever
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: anyone wants to talk about again, email us at web
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  Speaker 3: radio at Patriots dot com and we'll talk about whatever's
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: on your mind.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: The most interesting Patriots fan in the world, James Pettigrew, says,
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  Speaker 6: We have some listeners that are very yeah, lots of puns.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: Also today, the tickets for the Patriots game in Germany
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: when sale, I guess the demand for this game was
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: exceeded even the Miami Chiefs game, which is the week
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: before Fanasas from Luxembourg writes in he said, the tickets
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: for the Germany game went on sale. They were sold
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: out in fifteen minutes with three million people in the
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: waiting room. Unfortunately, I was not able to get one,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: but still hoping to find one in the secondary market
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: and see you there. I guess that's going to be
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: the what a lot of Patriots fans are hoping for.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: I have an issue with the league and how they
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: did the whole thing. I think they should have given
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: a bunch of tickets to the four teams that are
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: and let them sell it, and whatever they couldn't sell
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: then put on the public market. Make sure the people
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: are going to really fans of the teams. But whatever.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: Get Taylor Swift on that show so well.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: I heard Taylor Swift did it again today. She took
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: down ticketmaster in Paris. She's having a concert and the
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: ticketmaster crashed.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: I don't know how she does. How do you do
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 8: three concerts like a week in travel? And I just
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 8: I'm in awe at how artists are able to perform
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 8: like that, Like it's just takes so much out of
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 8: you to to sing all those songs for like four hours,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 8: and to do it three nights a week.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 7: I definitely would love to know, like the workout plan
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 7: that goes into that to make sure you have the
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 7: stamina to be able to do it.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 8: It's like sleep all day Monday, Tuesday, and then like
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 8: get up Wednesday, work out.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: A little bit.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 7: Even what they're like eating to like make sure that
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 7: they have the energy for her.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 8: It's like crazy, a lot of tea and honey the
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 8: vocal cords.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, let's see matt and Arizona writes in since
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: it's the dead period of the NFL off season, I
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: figured I'd humor you with all some outlandish Patriots predictions.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 5: It.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: Remember, these are meant to be out of the box,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: so Paul and Evan keep the snart to a minimum.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: Wow, yeah, you ago, that's a badge of honor for me.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: Ramandre Stevenson will finish third in Offensive Player of the
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: Year voting. Is that outlandish?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: Yes, okay, it's a good outlandish kitchen.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: Matthew Judain will finish second and Defensive Player of the
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: Year voting.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: I think that's a good outlandish one too, that one's
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: not as out that one's less outlandish.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: Christian Gonzales will win the Defensive Rookie of the Year.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: Also not crazy. A lot I'm gonna stop saying outlandish
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: because I don't like the West.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: Matt Jones will receive one MVP vote. Well, if Jim
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: McBride is voting, perhaps, okay.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 8: He's on the Bruins beat now Fred Chris Price?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: Is that right? I don't get that demotion.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 6: I don't know they lost their Bruins beat.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: The Bruins beat writer is taking some time off, okay,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: so he's doubling up. No, he's he's doing the Bruins
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: for the Bruins.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: Who's now the.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: New Jim mc press price is going to come back?
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: James Harrison's no longer on the team.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 8: Oh, I thought if I would, well, I put myself
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 8: in that position, and I'm like, what would I have done?
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: What would I have done? There? I don't remember this
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: now after a game, we were all waiting around James
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: Harrison's locker. I shouldn't say we all, because this is
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: I was probably in this studio doing the post game
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: show and heard about this later. He died someone to
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: put lotion on his back. Chris Price did it?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: I would never know.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: I was like, what is my response?
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: I here?
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I'm good, No, I'm good, I'm good I'm good.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: I'm good, and I'll go talk to Brady while Yeah,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: I'm waiting for you. I gotta go do something over here.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: I'll be right back, Matt says. Who was from Arizona?
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: Mind you? He says, PS. I'm not sure who travels
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: with the team, but I know the Patriots will be
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: back in town to play the Cardinals in twenty twenty four.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: Whomever is out there again, I implore you to seek
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: out the Bosa Donut Shop. They are way better than Duncan.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 8: Oh, Duncan, Well, it's Evan and I don't know if
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 8: we can send you on a donut mission.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 7: Can.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: We are kind of limited Bosa. I want to be
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: as respectful to our sponsors as I can. Donut should
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: be better than Duncan.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not what Duncan's known for. They're known for
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: their coffee, right. I love their coffee because they change
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: the name from Duncan Donuts to dunk is Duncan.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: Right, Just Duncan America runs on Duncans, just.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 6: New England does.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: Let's see Kyle in Pembroke. I heard on a radio
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: show one of the hosts say one shows that he
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: thinks Belichick doesn't want to get d hop because he
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: doesn't like or slash believe in Matt Jones. What do
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: you guys think of this theory?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 6: If he didn't believe in mac Jones, would he want
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: the hop more to make the worse?
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: I just don't.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: I don't get the Belichick at like seventy years old,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 8: is now like trying to play mind games and lose
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 8: games just to like people.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: The same Belichick in terms of economics that we've always seen.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: And I don't think he feels comfortable giving more than
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: he thinks that you should, and that's part of the problem.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: David in Bethlehem writes in the state Police will not
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: jeopardize its investigation on Jack Jones by leaking info. Likewise,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: without info, the NFL won't make a decision. Personally, I
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: think he's a chump and another example of a princeling
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: athlete who expects preferential treatment princling. If you don't think
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: that teams, like any teams in sports leagues get don't
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: get information from whether it's state Police, DAS or state police,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: you're crazy. They get it because they are major contributors
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: to all their funds.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: And I agree with David and there is a difference
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: between leaking information that you know, we all find out
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: and the teams being in contact, Like that's not necessarily
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: the same. It might they might both be leaking, but
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: it's not the same thing.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 8: And a lot of the same people that would work here,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 8: like former state police saw like guys that have connect
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 8: security guys police.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: So I just looked up Princeling and it's prince.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: With l I and in there just Prince France. Princeling. Yeah,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: and it's Princeling.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 7: A petty or insignificant prince who rules some unimportant, unimportant principality.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: Okay, I don't think that a lot of princes use
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: that one. Jack Jones's situation has anything to do with you.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: Can I just ask you?
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: Go on?
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: I will not be offended in any way, shape or form.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: Am I the only one of the five of us
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: that never heard that word before?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: I had never heard of it.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: I had never heard of it.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: Only want to contact. I don't really see I'm the
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: only one with enough self esteem to admit that I
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: didn't know.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 6: We all just admitted we didn't know.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: There's such a princeling Paul ruling your whole what's its origin.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: I like how I like how Paul Backhand compliments himself.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: I'm the only one.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 6: Willing to look stupidly after all of us said, we
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 6: had no idea that.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: You stepped on.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: Lines Travis in West Virginia. I went back and rewatched
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: the All Access segment where David Patton is reliving the
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: game from two thousand and one when he had a rushing, receiving,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: and passing touchdown in the same game. When looking at
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: the box score from that game, the sequence of touchdowns
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: doesn't match the sequence in the video segment. Which one
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: is correct? I'm sure Paul remembers, like which one did
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: he do first?
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 6: I'm sure the box score is correct.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: The box score will be right.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: I think the last one was the receiving one, right,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: I think see them all.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: We could look that up.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: I think that was the last one, but I'm not sure. Anyway,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: while you're looking at it. Also, at the beginning of
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: the video segment, it shows Tony Dungeee walking the field
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: during pregame warm ups. However, Tony Dungee wasn't the head
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: coach of the Colts in two thousand and one. He
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: was still with Tampa. Either way, it's a great video,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: but reeks of fake.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: News not aware.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: Didn't make the video.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: I didn't. I don't mean the dungee part of that
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: would be that's valid if we had a video that
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: had Dungee in it. Yeah, he wasn't there, M right,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: But I mean not putting the I mean I didn't
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: see the video. But you have to put the touchdowns
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: in order for not to be fraudulent, right, I don't know.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: I don't get that.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: Let's see Joe in war New York. Longtime listener, longer
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: time fan back from the Babe Pearly days. Here's an
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: offseason game. So, Fred, you're definitely one of my favorites
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: and got me thinking about a mount rushmore of Fred's.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: What would be your list of all time Freds? I
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: may say that my absolute number one would be Fred Flintstone.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: The next three are up to you and the listeners.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 8: Oh uh, I think a great grandfather named Fred the
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 8: Fred Flinson was the first one.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: Well, my dad would be up there too. He's a
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: Fred your dad.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 6: Fred's Yeah, a couple Freddy Lynn.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: Fred Lynn. That's a good one.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: My grandfather, Freddie Sizemore. Is that no? Freddy High Moore
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: know who that is?
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: Freddie Mercury.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: Freddie Mercury. That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good fred.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: Not a lot of them though, you know, when you
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: think about it like Mike's, I mean, yeah, I forget
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 6: Fredlin definitely besides from Fred Kirk, Fred.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: Except for you, fred Freddy Krueger.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: That's a good one. Fred what's that guy?
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: Is about? Frederick the Great?
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: The eighties?
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: There was one.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: Frederick the Great was a great one. He was the
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: Emperor of Prussia.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 6: Was Prussia.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: And then Frederico Barbarossa from Italy. Paul you would know him.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: I'm sure what's fred Dreyer? What was the his eighties? Oh?
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Hunter? Yeah, Hunter played for.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: The Rams like Spencer for higher Hunter.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of just do Freddy's County, said Freddie Mercury.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 6: So Freddy Prince Junior. Freddy is a good fred.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: Really great career Summer catch fred flo stones up there though?
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 6: Why do you like that one?
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 8: That one, Jessica, That summer Catch movie is like in
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 8: the KPE League. Cape Baseball League is such a wonderful,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 8: magical thing and if anyone.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: Go to it.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 6: It's fine. Let's not.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's awesome. I mean you can go for free.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: I mean it's it's great. But like that movie is
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: so bad. That movie is so bad.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, whoa? You like Freddy Potta?
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 6: It is not that movie is a classic.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 7: I just did some googling for like popular which is
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 7: probably cheated, but popular Fred characters Scooby Doo, like the
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 7: guy Scooby Doo.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: His name is Fred.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: Fred, but not don't don't do popular Fred characters? Do popular?
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: Fred's real?
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 6: You think Summer Catches a bad movie? Is not terrible,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 6: but that really hurts my song.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: It's bad. I'm going to watch it again now, just
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: because you have.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 6: To watch it.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: It has to be real.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 7: It's corny that from the time yea spread from Fred Flintstone.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: You're right, it's true, that's true.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 6: He's from a town of Bedrock. What do you mean?
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: But he is kind of real. I don't know. Fred
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: Flintstone is kind of morphed into cartoon to be you.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: Know what the Stones are?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: You were watching?
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, but I'm just carry over, Like the Peoples.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: Is so adorable.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 6: Did you have you watched the one with John Goodman?
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: Because that's I watched that as a kid all the.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: Time, Barney laughing. So just to put a put an
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: end to that, patent touchdown rush followed by a pass
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: reception and then his touchdown pass. Now those they were
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: actually three touchdowns in a row for the Patriots. Wow,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: the Cold scored in between a field goal in between.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: But here's a trivia question for you, okay, So that
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: the Patriots were up twenty one to three. After Patton
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: ran for a touchdown, caught a touchdown pass, and then
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: threw a touchdown pass, they were up twenty one to three.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: The next touchdown was scored by the Patriots who scored
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: that touchdown.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 8: Oh oh god, I think I know this one.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: It's cleco No, a guy that you hear from in
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: Boston every day. Oh Wiggins, Jermaine Wiggins. Yeah, okay, And
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: he said let there be light, and the light was restored.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 6: In the famously has a picture in de Blossies.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: Does he really does?
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 6: Yep?
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: Deserving me Sol rays Saint Louis. I know we're all
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: fans of red zone, but with Sunday tickets switching to
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: YouTube TV, are you all still planning to use that
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: or is it something else that we could use that's similar.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: We're not going to get it anymore here.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 6: Wait, I'm confused.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: No, no, he's I think the Ray St. Louis is confused. Ye.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: Red Zone is still going to be on cable NFL network.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: They're not channel ninety nine. But he's talking about NFL
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: Sunday ticket which is different. Yes, yeah, that's YouTube.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: Correct to get all the games. It is quite okay,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: don't experiment.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so what we use here is red Zone.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: I see commercials all the time for red Zone. That's
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: not going anywhere.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: No any viewser Okay, So that's I'm about to read
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: his disclaimer any views in our position. Let's see a
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: lot of a lot of unhappy people writing in about
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: not being able to get tickets to the Germany game.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: Sorry about that.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: That's blowing up. Yeah, that's it's conne.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 8: We have any to give out when we're there, like say.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: We have Yeah, I mean right now on Patriots dot
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: com you can register in the sweepstakes and try to
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: win some I have to do.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: With sign up. That's all. Yeah, what a what a
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: great deal.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: But it's I'm telling you the league limited us.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 6: They didn't give us I'm not cap.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: Big playoff.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: Account Andrew in North Carolina. You guys have watched the
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: greatest legal procedure movie of all time, though, right, and
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: then he tells us what it is. What do you think?
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: You think a few good men the.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: Legal the greatest legal procedure.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: So it's not a few good men.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not about you know, I don't know.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of legal movies, so this could be.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: I think a few good men?
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: Is that it's not a few good men? Because I
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: was all that.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 8: It's not a John Grisham novel, is it.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm the only one that finds those a little.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, well narrow it. Doubt it's a comedy.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: Again, not real, not real comfortable with.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: I would love to show Jessic cousin Vinnie and see
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: like all of like the bs that she picks out
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 6: out of the legal proceedings in that movie.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: Probably a lot. See it doesn't happen a lot. But
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: with medical stuff, Beth Well, every once in a while
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: will be like, yeah, they didn't have to do that.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: That was that would never happen. That was me watching
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: eighty for Brady.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: I actually, oh yeah, somebody replied to that, Oh, they
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: said that in eighty for Brady. They were not lifelong fans.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: They were fans of Tom Brady.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, I disagree. Okay, they were not football
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: fans until Tom Brady came in. But they they were
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 6: lifelong Bostonians, but they just didn't like football, because you know,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 6: that was the whole thing, was like, we didn't like football,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 6: and then Tom Brady came and all of a sudden,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: we liked football. So look, if you have a six
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: one seven area code, you're a Patriots fan. That's that's
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 6: how I roll. So I think lifelong Patriots fan totally.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: Looking at you. Okay, I was on those cold hard benches.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: Johnson and Porters la Va, Scotia. After hearing of Greg
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: Popovich's contract extension for five years, I've heard discussion of
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: who do you think retires first? Popovich, who's seventy four,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: Belichian seventy one, or Nick Saban's seventy one. The consensus
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: is Belichick will retire first because of the challenge of
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: coaching in the NFL, especially giving the tough division. I
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: personally have no clue. I think Saban has accomplished so much.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: Popovich has a new wonder kid in Victor Winbayama, and
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: Bill is chasing that win record, which might take him
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: longer than two to three years. Without a solid quarterback,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: he might want to take Dante Scarneki up on his
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: offer to play U eighty pickleball doubles and rent them.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 7: I would pick Saban just because I think that Nil
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 7: is definitely leveling the playing field and just seeing how
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 7: you know, they've been able to get beat by multiple
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 7: teams for the first time and so long that I
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 7: could definitely see him like kind.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: Of that's interesting.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 8: I mean, I also think Saban could probably just write
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 8: his own check wherever he wanted to go.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: Still, but do you think there's still a route for
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: him to the NFL, because.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: Does he want to?
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: He didn't do well.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no. I think it's way too old.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but I think he could be the only
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 6: reason why your point of the n AL is a
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 6: really good one. But with Saban, like he can just
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 6: kind of show up and they can win ten games,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 6: like you know, like I don't.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: Him and who's offering more Nil?
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 6: I don't know that that whole thing at al Alabama,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: that whole thing at Alabama is so well set up
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: that he has, so recruiting.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: Isn't going to be his problem. I agree with Tamara's
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: pick because I think he seems to sound like, you know,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: going back to the famous thing that we talk about
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: all the time in the show about and I don't
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: really think he could play defense anymore, that that has
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: to really bother a guy like Saban, you know, and
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: now this kind of stuff. He's been cranky about it.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: He made fun of Jimbo Fisher last year about his
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: recruiting class, best money could buy and all that stuff.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: Of course it was fine when he was paying all
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: the money.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the table, right, you know.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: I don't think Alabama will have anything to worry about
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: with Saban and football. I agree with Evan, but I
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: do think he seems like the guy that's closest to
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: me retiring evidently pop if it doesn't have to win
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: any games anymore either, Like he hasn't been relevant in
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: like ten years.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 6: But it's not been ten years.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: I still considered, you know, the pied piper in the
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: NBA for whatever reason.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 6: Did you watch Summer League? Because Victor Wabayama is like,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 6: literally the freakiest man alive right now.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: No, I know I heard it.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: I know one shot him air balling.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: But he had a terrible first game, yea, then he
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: was really good in the second.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 6: He can based like he had one play where he
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 6: basically dunked without jumping and he's I saw. Yeah, his
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 6: arms are just like so long that he just reached
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 6: over the guy and put the ball back in. Yeah.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: I don't like is that faya.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: No, that's why I always think he's so skinny. Yeah,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: I don't see him holding it.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 6: But he also moves like, oh no, he can play.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 6: He moves like a guard, but he he can.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: Okay, he can play.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: So here's a question, and I don't know the answer
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: to this honestly. When I heard it, though, I was
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: a little bit your guy. Yesterday, Tony mas A v
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: said that Bill Walton was more dominant than Kevin Garnett.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: It's a different kind of player, and you can't really
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: answer it because of the injuries. But Bill Walton in
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: seventy seven was a better player than Garnett.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, one year.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: But I said, you can't really answer because, like because
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: of the injuries, you don't know exactly what Bill Walton
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: would have been. Yeah, I mean obviously for career. For career,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 4: I'll take Garnett one hundred times out of one hundred. Yeah,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: he had a better career than Bill Walton. But I
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: think at their best, I think Bill Walton was probably.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: A better Well he's one of those you know, if
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: he had been, Halton.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: Might be the best college basketball player of all.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Ucla absolutely. Dexter and Santa Rosa want a
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: personal note. We just welcomed our fifth and final child
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: on Sunday, So the perpetual grind of no sleep continues.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: Congratulations to you.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: God bless you five congratulations.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: Question one for the panel, how would the eighty five
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: Bears today? How would their defense fair today in today's league?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: I think they get picked apart.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah they really Yeah. Not enough speed.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the game itself, like the quarterback now is so
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 7: much different than the quarterback in eighty five. So I
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 7: just think that like the speed, the size of the quarterback,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 7: like their mobility.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: It's just I mean, the one game that they couldn't
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: stop the other team was Marino, who was playing twenty
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: years ahead of his time. Yeah, that's what everybody does now.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: Right, that's true.
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  Speaker 14: Uh.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: Two, if you could hand select current defensive players like
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: an unfair backyard pickup game. Would that eleven that you
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: picked be the best defense of all time? If not,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: how would they rank?
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: I hope so doing so?
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: These are all current defensive players. So what he's trying
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: to get at, I think is that the defensive players
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: aren't as good as they used to be. But that
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: might not be.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 6: That might be I had, like TJ. Watt, Aaron donald
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 6: sas Gardner, Patrick Surtan. Yeah, I think I'd be pretty good,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 6: and you.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: Could pick the best of all time. You know whoever?
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: Those being against the eighty five Bears? Is that what
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: he's saying.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: No, I don't know any Evans.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but and that was a great defense. I mean
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: the Bears, I mean not just because the passing games
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: weren't as sophisticated, but I mean, you know Richard Dent,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: Mike Singletary, you know Wilbur Marshall. I mean, they're all
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 4: time great players. They were really really talented too. But
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: you also couldn't destroy quarterbacks the way he could then
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: now And do you ever see some of the highlights
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: they show on random NFL network things and you're looking like, uh,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: that's a fine. That's probably a suspension, right, you know.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: Like if I can like if I can have Lawrence
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: Taylor and I can have my Haynes.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: Oh so now you're having the best eleven of all
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: time against the best eleven at a player. Now I'll
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: take all time. Yeah, I thought it was like like
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: one team. Whoever you said the best? What if I
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: have from Like.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: It has to be pre nineties, pre nineties.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: Pre nineties to just in the league. Now I'll take
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: pre nineties. Okay, like that could pick from anybody.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 6: I'm taking now you're taking now taking now.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: The best now eats the best of pre ninety.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 6: I think that the pre nineties guys are like basically
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 6: a different species just in terms of the athlete.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: Uh Dan in Virginia in Michigan, you.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 4: Don't think mel Blunt is this athletic. Is the guys
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: that playing cornerback now at that side played in.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 6: Mel Blunt against like a guy like Sauce Gardner.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: No, I'm going to tell you that you've never seen
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: mel Blunt play.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 6: Not like religiously No. But I'm willing to take take
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: the modern athlete.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: Mike Haynes. Yeah, Mike Keynes was great, ridiculous athlete size.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Lawrence Taylor you can't argue with right, Evidently
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: Evan would. He'd be great now, don't you think.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 6: Nineties Lawrence Taylor? Yeah, yeah, they would all be great now.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying they would be great, wouldn't be great now.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying that none of them would be great.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 6: I'm just saying that I would take the I would
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: take the guys now. I would.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: They're tougher back then.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 6: Like, if you're telling me those are different.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 4: Pre nineties and post nineties, I'll take post nineties. I'm
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 4: just talking about if it's pre nineties and just guys
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: that are currently in the league. Yeah, I'm just going
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: by sheer numbers. Yeah, I can get eleven guys using
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: every year as opposed to one year just now.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 6: I don't necessarily disagree with that. I just I don't know.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 6: I think the guys now are and like we've talked
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: about before, you know, if you have if they had
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: the training methods and the diet and all that stuff
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 6: in nineteen seventy that they do now, maybe it would
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: be different.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: Maybe they weren't, maybe they weren't smoking cigarettes on a
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: bench in between.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 6: But I'm just saying if we literally took like, you know,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 6: a player from that you know, too tall Jones, like
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 6: du said, and dropped him now and it wasn't didn't
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 6: start over or anything, but just who he.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: Was, right, Like too Tall Jones would be Zones.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: Now all look.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: Doesn't really ring the same way.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: And if he was on this team, he'd just be
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: another Jones. Dan Virginia in Michigan. Going back to last
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: Thursday's episode, I wasn't expecting an actual answer to my
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: question about journeyman quarterbacks and game managers. I was just
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: trying to reignite an old PFW debate between Fred and
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: everyone else in the previous discussion of journeymen, which in
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: fairness to you all, was at least six years ago.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: Fred's contention was that the term journeyman goes back to
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: medieval times and referred not to someone who will wander
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: from place to place, but rather what a recognized level
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: of skill between master craftsmen and apprentice. Everyone else in
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: the show argued with Fred that journeyman meant a guy
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: who had traveled around because he wasn't good enough in
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: sports anywhere. Fred wouldn't have had, wouldn't have it, and
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: stubbornly stuck to his guns despite a lot of effort
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: by everyone else. I think Fred might have ren done
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: that position on Thursday afternoon. Well, it is true. That's
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: where journeyman comes from.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 4: And I did. I never doubted at that time, and
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: I don't doubt it now. I know the origin in
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: the NFL Sports Parliament, sports parlams. He was a guy
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: who plays for a lot of teams.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: But the origin of the term goes from master journeyman, apprentice.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: That's that was the levels of how you advanced in
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: your craft back in the day.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: So when when Fred was a blacksmith.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: Right the way, apprentice blacksmith, journeyman. So once you got
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: your apprenticeship done, you then journey to get your first
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: job outside of that, and then once you got enough
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: you know, skin in the game, you became a master craftsman.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: That's where it comes from. But now I know, I
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: know in sports journeyman is considered a guy who goes
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: from team to team.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: I know that, And that was probably a forty five
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 4: minute argument between Andy, Fred.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: And and of course Eric.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 4: I think just kind of took that one off.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: For each for each of you. What is your favorite
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: PFW progress PU moment for a relative newcomer? It need
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: if need be. It can be a moment you had
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: on another show, your favorite moment. I mean the Tides
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: argument was epic.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: It wasn't one of my favorites.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: No, it was stupid. It was epic. I mean, the
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: Great Debate was a good The.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: Great Debate gave us a lot of shows.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what's the Great Debate?
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: The Great Debate was in Paul, what did you do it?
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 4: Because it's like a debate, it always changes, like.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: This is back when Brady was still.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: On the team and when they were good.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you had your choice. You had the choice.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: He's definitely you had You had your choice of you
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: could definitely win a Super Bowl next year guaranteed, or
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: you can have Brady for the next ten years.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 4: You finished the undefeated season. Oh that's right.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you're right. See I knew I was going
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: to screw it up.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 4: Oh seven, it was after the we talked about this,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 4: would you rather have that one year? And then Brady
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 4: retired after the year. Well, you knew you were going
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 4: to have Brady for the next ten years.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: That's the great debate Brady for the next ten years.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 4: But that's and that's what Andy took and Fred I
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: was kind of I was very I know, this is strange.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: I was very wishy washy in this one and kind
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: of sat it out. But Fred would would say, I'll
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 4: take the undefeated because that's immortality, and it doesn't. And
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: this is where one thing that I agreed with Fred Brady.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 4: Then retiring doesn't preclude you from being able to compete
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 4: the next ten years.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: Right, you can still win a super Bowl with somebody else.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: You know, we hard I know, but as we can
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: also see, you can have history in the palm of
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: your hand and lose it. And that's so I want
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: give me that undefeated season. Have that in the bank,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: Castle have that in the bank, and then I'll take
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: my chances with the next ten years trying to, you know,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: become relevant again. I you can't. You can't overestimate how
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: big a loss that was.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 4: You'll never get that close.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: We'll never get First of all, they don't play sixteen
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: games anymore in the season, so you can never do
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: that again. But besides the point, it's really freaking hard
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: to do. And it was so close. It was it
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: wasn't like the Bears that you know, they were the
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: lost a game, They lost one game in the regular season.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: You know, Okay, so it's over. We got to the
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: last game and we were favored and they lost it
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: in two touchdowns. Yeah, and I'm saying to get that
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: in the bank and I'll take my chances with the
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: next ten year.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was good.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: Brady goes out on the highest of I.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: Think that great debate.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: I think so, yeah, but what if you.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 8: Added a different a little bit of a different context
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 8: and said, you know, in those next ten years, you
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 8: have the possibility of having the greatest Super Bowl comeback
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 8: of all time.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: You know, not that that compares to an undefeated I
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: would take your friend so over that.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 8: But there's something that's pretty cool about you know what
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 8: I would actually transport.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 6: I just think, like as cool as you can't touch
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 6: O seven they win. To know seven, it's it's untouchable.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 6: But I think, like, speaking as a somebody that is thirty,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 6: I can't say that under thirty anymore. That is thirty
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 6: like the Gronk Edelman, you know, next Dynasty, High Tower mccordy,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 6: Like I resonate more with those teams than I do
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 6: with the one O three oh four Patriots, because I
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 6: was I wasn't old enough to really care deeply at
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 6: that age. Now O seven was when I started getting
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 6: old enough to really be able to to resonate with
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 6: the team. So I was as devastated as anybody probably,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 6: But I think that you wouldn't have gotten that, right,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 6: like you wouldn't have gotten Gronk, you wouldn't have gotten Edelman.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: Would That's kind of what dous to say. If let's
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: so you rephrase it, you can have seven perfect season
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: or you can have you don't get seven, but you
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: get all the things that came after it guaranteed. Which
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: would you rather have?
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 6: I don't know. That's a it's a tough one.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: Just the way that you get twenty eight three, you
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: get the Seattle Seahawks game change.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're talking three super Bowls to one. Take the three. Yeah,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 4: you can have the undefeated one. I'll take the three titles.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: So that makes a difference.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 4: Now the argument would be, would you give away two titles?
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 4: That's the one because three fifty three here it is
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 4: like take it, take take fifty three from me. I
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: don't I don't care but you have to take another one.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 4: That's hard one for one.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: Who wouldn't do that? Would you be willing to give
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: up two Super Bowls and you have to pick which two?
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: In order for Brady to win the game against the
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 3: Eagles where he threw over five hundred yards.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 8: Oh no, no, but I would trade. I would trade
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 8: thirty nine and fifty three for forty two. Yeahs, I
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 8: would the first Eagles just one thirty nine and fifty
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 8: three for forty two.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 4: This is put it up on the board, like Ernie.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think anybody would. It's fifty three, right,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: everybody would that would be one of them, right, Yeah,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 4: that's like I don't know.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 6: I I fifty three is a special place in my
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 6: heart because I was my first year on the beat,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 6: so I covered fifty three. I didn't cover the other five.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 6: So I guess maybe that's I have a little bit
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 6: more sentimental value to fifty three, Deuce has it.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 4: I think that that first Eagles one would probably be
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 4: the one, and I'm gonna surprise you. I think the
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: comeback would probably be in my list too, But the
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: Eagles one is the better.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 3: I think it's one of the other tragedies of the
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: Dynasty era that Brady didn't win that game in which
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: he threw over for five hundred yards, you know, because
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: I do. I still think that he would have retired
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: after that game. Yeah, I still think, So what do
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 3: you stay retired? If he retired at that point that
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think in his mind he
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: was win this game. I'm gonna come out with.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: Any further information on that because then I was right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 8: We're moving, We're moving you to the social Evan.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 6: Evan's going to be you have a few birdies, dating
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 6: life and the celebrity gospel.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 8: Breaking down the film of Who Julian Edelman's M E. E.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: Entertainment, Okay, Ramon and Tampa. If you were a fan
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: of another NFL team for the same amount of time
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: you were a fan of the Patriots, which team would
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 3: you like to be a fan of? I imagine Steelers
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: and forty nine Ers would be the popular responses that.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 6: Could never be a Steelers fan?
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: I don't like the forty nine Ers either. Yeah, what
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 4: is that based on? Are you saying like teams you
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 4: wish you were you'll be rooting for right now.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like, for the same amount of time you were
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: a Patriots fan, who would you have been a fan of?
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: I am sing this conversation.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: Why because I'm not a Patriots fan, Because you're already
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: a fan of another team? Wow?
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: What team do you love?
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: Steelers?
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 4: Pittsburgh, Pittsburg Forever?
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 6: Remember when you guys planned your parent rap before the
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 6: AC Championship?
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: A good move unless unless, unless a certain head coach
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: moves to another thing.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: Just so, if you're gonna make stuff up, you should
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 4: get it right. It was Philadelphia that had the Super Bowl.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 6: No, sorry, they packed their back They packed their bags.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 6: Excuse me, they much like we did.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 3: My back was back.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 6: Well that was you. You're not on the team because
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 6: I was told I needed to be at the stadium.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: Look at this guy, Sorry, Paul, he's already packed his bag, Foster,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 4: this is inside baseball.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: So what team would you have been a fan of? Paul?
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 4: That's a hard one, Yeah, because.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: I'd imagine, like, I don't mind playing the bad guy sometimes.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: I was a Broncos fanmore man.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 4: You know, I've always kind of liked the way the Ravens,
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of play. Yeah, I like them. I've
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 4: always liked Seattle.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 8: They've always been I like Steve Largent hate for some reason.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 8: When I like I like Steve Largent.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 4: I like Jim because I was a lefty quarterback and I,
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 4: you know, foolishly thought there was a chance that left
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 4: the quarterbacks could beat Then I saw Jim's one play
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, Kenny Stabler, everything just looks funny.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, could throw my My fandom didn't age well. And
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 6: I would say to Alanta Falcons because of Michael Vick.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 4: But Birds were big back then. I mean, did you
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 4: have that post name you had? You had a ton
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 4: of teams.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: I won't No, I didn't have a ton of I
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: wan't Tom barrass you by. I was a little kid
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: growing up in New Jersey. So I liked Joe Namath.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: I like the Jets you had, and.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 4: Then it's whoever one of them?
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: And then and then like when you got it there
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: and it's not like the Patriots relevant. So I picked
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: the team, and I picked the Broncos. And but by
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: the way, I picked the Broncos long before John Elway
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 3: was that the quarterback?
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 4: That's true because he had it used to have an
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: old shirt of John Alway I did. It was actually
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 4: a Colin Mecklenberg shirt. He was seventy seven one seven
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 4: was under here, was under here?
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what were you doing during that?
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 4: We are killing the Patriots called the state that that
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 4: game here when.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: The no by then I was a Patriots fan.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: I believe that was ninety six, so you will probably yeah,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 4: I was a Patriots fan, but you're killing the Patriots.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 4: I hated the National Guard.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: I hated that.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: Oh, I hated him. I didn't like Denver. But it's funny,
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 4: like I didn't really like I was. I guess I
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 4: was a real Patriots honk. I hated Miami, I hated Pittsburgh.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: I hated the Raiders. Yeah, like I just hated them all.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: So I have a hard time envisioning. I guess it
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: with with like retrospect, I could say Kansas City because
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 4: I like homes I respect the way he plays, I
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 4: like Andy Reid, And I mean, if.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: You're a Patriots fan, if you're a true Pagris fan
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: from you know, years going by, you have to hate
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 3: the Raiders because of the Phantom in the Past and
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: Darryl Stingley, just for those two things. You have to
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: hate the Raiders, you know, I mean the Steelers you
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: hate just because they were so good.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 6: I hate the Raiders for the tuck rull.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: You hate the Raiders because of the.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 6: But they always still they still cry about it, and it's.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 19: Just like it's like yourself, but it's fun like when
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 19: they cry about it. It's the rule was correctly called. Like,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 19: I'm sorry, I know what you want us to do?
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 19: Throw away the rule book?
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 4: I guess?
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 3: Uh. David in Rochester, New York, I recent princely David says,
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: I recently bought all six replica Super Bowl banners to
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: hang up in my fan cave, and I've run into
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: an issue. I seem to have run out of space
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: for all the Super Bowl banners. I texted my friend,
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: who was a Bills fan, about the issue, and he
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 3: said that was one of the most annoying things I've
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: ever said. Love the show, keep up the good work.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 3: How do you run out of space? Just increase the size.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 6: Of your fans?
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 4: Just gonna knock walls.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 8: But it seems pretty simple, you know, move a fat
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 8: head around and get it up there on the wall.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 4: More like I think I owe Patriots fans and apology.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 4: I'm more of a like fanboy than I have really
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: cared to admit. I can't bring myself to say that
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: I would have rooted for X.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: And yet he hated them all, and yet he hates fans.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: That's what I just You know, you're not listening. I
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 4: just said I owe everybody in an apology.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 3: Jacket and Abba. I'm a Patrios fan through and through.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: But my adopted NFC team is the Packers.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 6: Sorry, you can't do that. Hate the Packers, but I
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 6: don't no offense to Jacket and Arba. But the people
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 6: that have like an NFC team, No, I don't do that.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 8: I would pause it that it's impossible to actively like
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 8: I'm going to be a fan of this team now,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 8: Like I think.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 4: It's really hard to not a saint, Like nothing would
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: be the same. But like the San Francisco Giants when
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 4: I was growing up were always my National League team.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 4: I liked the Giants for a while.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: For a while, there was a thing going around in
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: like not just the NFL, but in sports where somebody
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: who was a fan of a team that really stinks
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: would send out letters or emails to other teams. You know,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: give me a reason to become a fan of your team,
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 3: meaning I think we hated that, Like, oh, that immediately
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: went into the guard.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 6: I think we got one of those Cleveland Browns fan Like, yeah,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 6: a couple months ago emailed it and said something similar,
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 6: But I had like back in the day with baseball
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 6: when you didn't play the National League, like it was
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 6: totally separate. Like my grandfather was a big Saint Louis
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 6: Cardinals fan until the sixties until they beat the sixties seventeen,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 6: but like that was his other team, he said, But
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 6: that was because they never played the Red Sox unless
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 6: they played the Red Sox in the World Series. So
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 6: that's ye.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 4: And if the Giants ever played the Red Sox in
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: the World Series, I would not have been like conflicted
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 4: conflicted at all, like it would have been Red Sox
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 4: would have been cool. Like my grandfather always loved the
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 4: Atlanta Braves because they were in Boston when he first
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: was watching, And everybody around here you'll attest to, was
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 4: a New York Giants fan. Yes, in the NFL, because
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 4: those are the games that he had nil before the
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 4: Patriots were on.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yep.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 4: So like my grandfather liked the Giants probably as much
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: if not more than the Patriots.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 8: My dad still and he also would the Rangers. I think,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 8: did you get Rangers games.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: At the Catfield brad Park like.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: The old Rangers? I don't how could by the Rangers
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 4: nineteen I've lived in New Jersey.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 3: I actually like Joe Namath too, Bob in Wilmington, North Carolina.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: With Buffalo as the reigning AFC East champs, what's more
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: likely the Patriots are next to win the division before
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: the Dolphins or Jets, or the Patriots don't win it
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 3: again until Miami and New York do it first?
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 4: I mean given, I mean B. What's more?
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 6: What team I have to go with? B?
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 4: If you're going more likely.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: That those two will one of those two will win
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 3: it before we do.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 8: I just I just hate when you get questions that
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 8: are like baiting you into being like the Patriots are
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 8: going to.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 4: Be terrible forever? Say it, say it, yeah, but it's
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 4: not saying now.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 6: I know I'm going, I'm going Patriots.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 4: I think somebody will win the division good for the Patriots.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 6: I think that there's I just I have to believe
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 6: that Belichick has like one good.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 4: Has to be this year based on that question.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 3: No, if the Bills keep winning, then it's until the Bills.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 4: Who you know, Yeah, what do you think is a
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: better chance of happening? The Bills slip in Miami with
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 4: the Jets take them over, or the Patriots win the
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 4: division first.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: But you could also put in another way, what's I
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 3: think that You could also say that there's a better
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 3: chance that the Bills keep winning until the Patriots are
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 3: ready and then the next team.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 6: But the problem with that is that that Bill Bill.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 4: A problem with that is the last three years of
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 4: Patriots fans that have told me how bad Buffalo sucks.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 4: That's the problem with that thing.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 3: Well, they could be right this year.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 4: Those Hailey steel and I'm banking on the my newfounds
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 4: save us. Haley embracing the Patriots fandom.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 8: Throw a weird fit right before the Patriots two games,
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 8: break up with him, before they gave Ra McDermott an extension,
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 8: the whole thing.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 4: Can you explain that one today?
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: So, now, Paul, you're supposed to rush to his defense.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 4: They do have a fan. He is a red ass guy.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 4: That's I think that one's accurate. It's kind of like naff. Yeah,
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 4: with Peyton Manning, I never made fun of you for
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 4: saying that they.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 6: Do have a little bit. They have a few more
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 6: roster holes this year than they have in the past. Couple.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 4: I'll say that, Yeah, you lose Edmonds and whatever one
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 4: whatever one of the one the safeties that.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 6: Left, both safeties are still there.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 4: They both there. I thought one of them left. Now
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: they're both still there, as many holes as I thought.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: A resident cartoonist, doctor James McLeod writes in uh, he said, Fred,
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 3: great chat about the evolution of sports journalism. I guess
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: what's coming next is all sports journalism generated by artificial intelligence.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: I would have liked to see an AI make sense
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: of the Patriots offense last season. The computer would have
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: blown up.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 6: So I don't think that that's gonna necessarily happen on
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 6: that level. But the AI generating like the like game recap,
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 6: you know, like the two to one and whatever, like
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 6: that's come that ESPN is gonna have some bot writing,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 6: you know, the Patriots one twenty seven twenty today, like
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 6: that's that's coming. Chat TBD can do that.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 8: Now if what if they get like chat GP two
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 8: all twenty two and it's like an expert GPT.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 6: Well right back to hot route hot right now, this
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 6: is like, yeah, you need some operator, you need some operator.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 6: Don't don't come over it, don't come over into my
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 6: my lawn.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: All right. They would never It's all math, let's all
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: beings nowadays.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: Come on, God, David says, I'm a Patriots fan and
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: Sabers fan, which has often been criticizing questions. It got
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 3: me to think, what are some of the strangest team
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: allegiances across different sports that you've seen.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know what team allegiances.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Sabers fan, No, can't do that.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Sabers are always a team.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 8: I mean, I'm much more passionate with my hate of
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 8: the Canadians and the Sabers and the Whalers like those
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 8: Like thought that was ingreening to me as a kid,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 8: Whereas I didn't really develop that with the Patriots ntil
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 8: they actually got started.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 4: I don't have that for the Sabers or the Whalers.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 4: They just weren't They weren't good enough, they weren't relevant enough.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 4: They beat us a couple of times. Yeah, I'm not
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 4: saying they never beat us.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 8: Remember, I know that's exactly the one I couldn't believe.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 3: Remember those days, Pagoula doubles with Cocoa Goths in Trouble.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 6: Canadians.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 3: Well, but is the daughter of the owner of the Bills.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 4: I know, so you're probably rooting against her because of that.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 6: I am I wanted to win.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: I'm just yeah, I'm just rooting for the Americans. Americans, America,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 4: Brian in New York.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: If I had to pick another team to be a
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 3: fan of, it be the Vikings.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 6: Like her cousins. It's your pick, Justin Herbert.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 4: Growing up, I hated Pittsburgh so much I found myself
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 4: rooting for Dallas. I don't root for Dallas anymore, but
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 4: like the Starbuck days, they were always playing Pittsburgh in
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, and I was always ruining for Dallas.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, so here's somebody hands you a handful of money
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 3: and they said, you have to use this money to
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: buy season tickets of another team outside of Boston. Who
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 3: do you spend the money on? And it could be
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: any sport the last three years it would have been
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: It could be any no more, any sport, but it
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 3: can't be a Boston team. Who do you who do
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 3: you buy season tickets for?
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: I'd say maybe one of the LA teams.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, Angels to watch.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: The place to go, yeah, good place to go, like
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: the Vibes New Stadium.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 4: So far, I don't know that's a good question.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: The Raiders because it's Vegas.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 4: Any team it would be football because I don't have
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 4: any interest in going to yeah eighty one or forty
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 4: forty one games.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you saw me. You own the tickets, you know.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you have to go to every game.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 4: We only ten games, you only you only you a's
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: for the young folks.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 3: You don't have to go to all the games, but
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 3: you own the tickets.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 4: Can the city? I mean the Chiefs great atmosphere gets
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 4: too cold.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 7: I almost picked going to see Joe Burrow, but then
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 7: I was like, it gets cold and that's not a
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 7: good location.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 3: When it goes Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love me some Burrow.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: But Raiders, Vegas, Kansas City, Kansas City?
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 4: Did you ever go? You never got to go to Arrowhead. No,
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 4: had a cool place.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: That is the closest thing to a college atmosphere.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 6: But it gets freezing. Yeah it's cold.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 8: But I would just go for the summer months and
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 8: then I would give the tickets away and.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 7: So I didn't have to go to all way games,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 7: but then you might miss some of the better games
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 7: later in the season.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 4: Do I have to sit next to Patrick Mahomes's wife?
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, good question, that's good question.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 4: Well don't.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 7: Well it's not it's not sitting next to her. It's
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 7: a probably sitting underneath her champagne.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 4: What everything they just did?
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 6: They have a new mansion now in the Kansas City area.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 3: See that They sold their old house for like six
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 3: million or something. And he built like this monstrosity.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 4: Do you see that overhead shot?
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, the little football. It's
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: got a football field of his logo at the fifty
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 3: yard line.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 6: I think it's like forty fifty yards.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in the middle of it, he's got a huge
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 3: pool enough that he can throw.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 6: He's got a part three.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 4: Then he has a golf golf hole.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 8: Why can't we get him dating an actress like what? Like,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 8: he's gotta stay with his one.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 6: So that's so shocking to me that he stayed with
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 6: her like that, he didn't trade up, But I'm still shocked.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 4: You think there's a chance, like even even a like
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 4: a little one, that it's all in act like She's
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 4: not that annoying. It's just like maybe stupid, like it
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 4: seems to keep being reinforced.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 7: That makes me think he has to be a little
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 7: bit on the quirky, weird, annoying side chair we don't
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 7: see because I mean, how could he stand to be
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 7: with someone that was like that?
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you never throw a beer.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're out of your mind anyway, out of your
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 4: mind and reckless, by the way, and to stay in
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 4: age reckless.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: All right, that's going to be it for this edition
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 3: of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back on Thursday with another episode.
• 1:58:01
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