Latest / Financial Survival Network / Exclusive Post-Election Forecast - Martin Armstrong #6181
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- 0:00Speaker 1: You can look up and you'll see NATO is basically
- 0:03Speaker 1: the retirement home for Neo konnt YEA, and they were
- 0:07Speaker 1: out there trying to raise one hundred billion dollars to
- 0:11Speaker 1: keep the war going with Russia if Trump is elected.
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- 0:38Speaker 3: Ever, And welcome. You are listening to and watching the
- 0:46Speaker 3: Financial Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Letz. The election's over,
- 0:50Speaker 3: we're going to have on Martin Armstrong, who had been
- 0:54Speaker 3: basically almost a year ago, been saying Trump was going
- 0:58Speaker 3: to win. The models showed over a sixty percent chance,
- 1:02Speaker 3: record low approval ratings for the current administration, and we
- 1:07Speaker 3: wanted to have Martin on because a lot of things
- 1:11Speaker 3: are going to flow from this. Wanted to get your
- 1:13Speaker 3: opinion Martin on what's going to happen next again. You
- 1:17Speaker 3: find his work over at Armstrong Economics dot com. Sign
- 1:21Speaker 3: up for his daily missives. I never miss him, Martin.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Great to have you on so well. It looks one
- 1:29Speaker 3: prediction you made, neither side would believe that the other
- 1:32Speaker 3: one if they won. There's no denying that Trump won
- 1:36Speaker 3: this election. There's no allegations of widespread vote tampering, although
- 1:41Speaker 3: I'm sure there's plenty because it's as American as apple pie.
- 1:45Speaker 3: But they're still finding other reasons. I mean, the left
- 1:50Speaker 3: is in complete meltdown mode now, isn't it. Yeah, I
- 1:55Speaker 3: mean there they basically are, you know, kind of denying it.
- 2:01Speaker 3: They mainly because I think if you really step back
- 2:05Speaker 3: and look at what the left did, they could not believe,
- 2:10Speaker 3: you know, criminally charging Trump and all these things. They
- 2:14Speaker 3: thought he was unelectable, and you know that was their downfall.
- 2:22Speaker 1: You know, they just kept this nonsense up and rather
- 2:27Speaker 1: than looking at what the the state of the economy
- 2:32Speaker 1: and economics really is. I mean, our computer's just never
- 2:37Speaker 1: been wrong. And because it doesn't do the polls, it's
- 2:41Speaker 1: not asking people, gee, who are you going to vote
- 2:43Speaker 1: for next week or whatever, it's just looking at the economics.
- 2:47Speaker 1: And uh, even you take go back to the Great Depression,
- 2:54Speaker 1: you know, Herbert Hoover had nothing to do with the
- 2:58Speaker 1: UH with a great crash. She had just been elected,
- 3:01Speaker 1: all right, and then in thirty two he gets only
- 3:04Speaker 1: you know, thirty nine percent. Whoever's there is always blink.
- 3:09Speaker 1: That's pretty much the way it goes. So it's not
- 3:13Speaker 1: necessarily that you know what they did or one way
- 3:16Speaker 1: or the other. But with the the other thing, which
- 3:22Speaker 1: I'll be revealing more at the conference, is that this
- 3:25Speaker 1: was the thirty fourth year after the fall to Berlin Wall.
- 3:31Speaker 1: That's when the socialism in the West should start to collapse,
- 3:35Speaker 1: and that's what we're watching. It will take until probably
- 3:40Speaker 1: about twenty thirty seven to complete the entire cycle. But look,
- 3:47Speaker 1: if you look at China, you look at Russia, Eastern Europe,
- 3:51Speaker 1: nobody wants to go back to this sort of stuff.
- 3:54Speaker 1: But in the West, you know, you have Stammer over there.
- 3:57Speaker 1: You know, in Britain locking up twelve year old kids
- 4:02Speaker 1: because they criticized the government. I mean, this is nonsense.
- 4:07Speaker 1: They think that they can just dictate to people and
- 4:11Speaker 1: you're going to jump and just ask how high. But
- 4:16Speaker 1: the real downside with this whole thing is that this
- 4:22Speaker 1: was a major coup attempt. I would say that I
- 4:28Speaker 1: was told from the beginning of the year that they
- 4:32Speaker 1: would not allow somebody else on the ticket with Biden,
- 4:36Speaker 1: and that he was not going to be the candidate.
- 4:39Speaker 1: He would step down after the Republican Convention. And back
- 4:45Speaker 1: then there were two camps buying for power, which was
- 4:49Speaker 1: Michelle Obama and Hillary. But the neocons really wanted Camillo
- 4:55Speaker 1: because she's just another placeholder and her VP is the same.
- 5:00Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you know, and so they just
- 5:04Speaker 1: you know, smile and say whatever they need to say,
- 5:07Speaker 1: read the que cards, and we'll sign whatever's put in
- 5:10Speaker 1: front of them. And that's what the neocons wanted. Now
- 5:14Speaker 1: they are quite upset because but these people have I
- 5:20Speaker 1: know some of them, I've had dinner with them. You
- 5:22Speaker 1: look them in the eyes and honestly, you don't even
- 5:25Speaker 1: see a warm light. I don't know what it is.
- 5:29Speaker 1: They were psychologically damaged in the fifties when we had
- 5:33Speaker 1: air raids and we had a height underneath their desks
- 5:36Speaker 1: in school or something, you know. But I mean, even
- 5:40Speaker 1: Robert mc namarr, if you look on YouTube, he with
- 5:44Speaker 1: the neukon took us into Vietnam and he did an
- 5:48Speaker 1: apology before he died. He said, we were wrong. We
- 5:51Speaker 1: thought Russia was involved and it was just a civil war.
- 5:54Speaker 1: That's very nice, Will. Fifty eight thousand Americans died because
- 5:57Speaker 1: you were wrong. And they've done the same thing with
- 6:01Speaker 1: every war, you know, it's it. They've never won a
- 6:05Speaker 1: single one yet since World War Two, and they've been
- 6:09Speaker 1: trying to get us into a war with Russia. That Ukraine.
- 6:15Speaker 1: You know, I speak to Ukrainians and I can tell
- 6:18Speaker 1: you that there was a coup against Zelensky on May
- 6:23Speaker 1: seventh and then he fired as his uh head of
- 6:27Speaker 1: the bodyguards, and his bodyguard's really now American squat because
- 6:33Speaker 1: he Ukrainians would basically kill him. But the ones I
- 6:39Speaker 1: talked to, they said if he was on fire, they
- 6:41Speaker 1: wouldn't urinate on him until he was dead. They just
- 6:45Speaker 1: see him as a puppet of the West, you know,
- 6:49Speaker 1: because there was a piece deal and then bars Johnson
- 6:52Speaker 1: hopped on the plane went over there and no, you're
- 6:54Speaker 1: not allowed to sign. So you know they see that
- 6:58Speaker 1: Ukraine is is just it's a it's a proxy, no
- 7:03Speaker 1: different than has Baba is a proxy for Iran. You know.
- 7:07Speaker 1: They just take orders from a central place, and that's
- 7:09Speaker 1: what's been going on why. You know, Zelenski's supposed to
- 7:15Speaker 1: be defending his territory, well with him, why did he
- 7:18Speaker 1: invade Ukraine and allow Russia to even take more territory
- 7:22Speaker 1: in Ukraine? It was they did that to try and
- 7:26Speaker 1: desperately get putent to attack anything in NATO. So they
- 7:31Speaker 1: can call him the aggressor. It's just esthetic. But my
- 7:37Speaker 1: concern now with the election is that the neocons are
- 7:43Speaker 1: afraid of Trump. I mean, he's basically said that he's
- 7:46Speaker 1: going to stop all of these wars. Uh, that's what
- 7:49Speaker 1: people really want.
- 7:51Speaker 3: Uh.
- 7:51Speaker 1: I did speak with the RFK, and you know even
- 7:56Speaker 1: he was anti war, which is why I was kind
- 7:59Speaker 1: of arguing the two of them should get together anyhow.
- 8:02Speaker 1: But I mean, this is it. So what have been
- 8:06Speaker 1: neo cons done. You can look up and you'll see
- 8:10Speaker 1: NATO is basically the retirement home for neo kons, and
- 8:15Speaker 1: they were out there trying to raise one hundred billion
- 8:18Speaker 1: dollars to keep the war going with Russia if Trump
- 8:22Speaker 1: is elected. They couldn't raise all the money. But you
- 8:26Speaker 1: know here you have them also trying to open up
- 8:31Speaker 1: in Asia. You know what's NATO doing over there?
- 8:35Speaker 2: All?
- 8:36Speaker 1: Right? What people have to understand is that this is
- 8:40Speaker 1: part of that oh you know, one World government agenda
- 8:44Speaker 1: that that comes from the WEF and everybody else there.
- 8:49Speaker 1: They think that the UN can can become the peacemakers,
- 8:52Speaker 1: solve these bores, uh, and then would be elevated the IMF,
- 8:58Speaker 1: who already has its digital currency on the boards. I've
- 9:03Speaker 1: spoken about that, and to replace the dolar and the
- 9:08Speaker 1: World Bank, and NATO is expecting to be the new
- 9:15Speaker 1: defense department for the world. It's I mean, if even
- 9:20Speaker 1: if you look at the eight points from Schwab and
- 9:24Speaker 1: it's twenty thirty plan in there is that the United
- 9:26Speaker 1: States will lose all its power and the military will
- 9:31Speaker 1: be handed to you win. I mean, these people are
- 9:34Speaker 1: just crazy. But you know, when one thing I learned
- 9:39Speaker 1: a long time ago, it's not what you think, it's
- 9:41Speaker 1: what they think that you have to pay attention to.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Is you might think it, Yeah, I mean it's it's
- 9:49Speaker 1: it's insane. I certainly wouldn't even advocate something like that,
- 9:55Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that's other people.
- 9:57Speaker 3: Won't, so so they're stuck with him. Now. He's got
- 10:03Speaker 3: to end the war in Ukraine. Prato. I mean, that's
- 10:09Speaker 3: first on the agenda, and already the Palestinians are saying, hey,
- 10:15Speaker 3: we want we want peace, we want peace just to
- 10:18Speaker 3: you know, let us let us survive Hamas. You know,
- 10:22Speaker 3: they're willing to give the all of a sudden the hostages.
- 10:26Speaker 3: It's kind of like a repeat of Reagan when he
- 10:29Speaker 3: came into once.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Yeah, when Reagan came in, I ran suddenly gave up
- 10:33Speaker 1: all of the hostages there too. You know, that's a
- 10:38Speaker 1: reflection that they understand the difference between Trump versus Biden
- 10:43Speaker 1: or Camilla and it you know, this is the way
- 10:47Speaker 1: it goes. But it's people also have to understand that
- 10:51Speaker 1: it's not really just the personality that you're voting for.
- 10:55Speaker 1: It's a whole entourage behind it. Can know you're not
- 11:00Speaker 1: voting really for her ideas or anything else. It's it's basically, uh,
- 11:07Speaker 1: you know, a vote for her was I vote for
- 11:11Speaker 1: Lincoln and the rest of them, the still controlled foreign policy,
- 11:15Speaker 1: et cetera.
- 11:16Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, she.
- 11:20Speaker 1: I've said, you know, people were like kind of shocked,
- 11:22Speaker 1: But I mean Hillary would have made a better president,
- 11:24Speaker 1: not that I agree with her opinions, but that she
- 11:30Speaker 1: is not somebody that allows others to walk all over
- 11:35Speaker 1: she's more authoritarian. Now, if she agreed with them, that
- 11:39Speaker 1: same thing would happen. But Camilla is like, oh, okay, fine,
- 11:43Speaker 1: you know, no problem. That's the whole issue with her.
- 11:49Speaker 1: And as I said, this thing was set up from
- 11:53Speaker 1: the beginning that the debate with Biden was unprecedented and
- 12:00Speaker 1: if you never have a presidential debate before people were
- 12:03Speaker 1: even nominated, And one well seasoned Democrat that I know
- 12:11Speaker 1: even said to me after that debate, well, now the
- 12:14Speaker 1: rest of the world sees what we've seen for two years.
- 12:18Speaker 1: I mean, it's a shame. But they stuck him up there.
- 12:21Speaker 1: They kept everybody off the ballot so nobody else could
- 12:25Speaker 1: interfere with their agenda. He would step down. And then
- 12:31Speaker 1: because they had already raised over one hundred million bucks,
- 12:34Speaker 1: they just handed it to Camilla. They couldn't hand it
- 12:36Speaker 1: to Hillary or Michelle. So you know she had She
- 12:42Speaker 1: was all over the media everywhere before the Democratic Convention. So,
- 12:48Speaker 1: I mean, this whole thing was was ragged from the beginning.
- 12:52Speaker 1: But their biggest problem was they, you know, with all
- 12:55Speaker 1: these criminal charges and nonsense, you know, calling January sixth
- 13:02Speaker 1: though an insurrection without weapons, you know, ridiculous, It's it's
- 13:08Speaker 1: really absurd and and but unfortunately you have a lot
- 13:13Speaker 1: of Democrats that are still all caught up in this.
- 13:19Speaker 1: Jamie Raskin in particular, even sent a letter to Trump, well,
- 13:23Speaker 1: you didn't file this paper, so maybe you're not legitimate.
- 13:27Speaker 3: Uh, they're not. They're not going to try that, are they.
- 13:32Speaker 1: No. I don't think so. But what I am hearing
- 13:36Speaker 1: is that they are planning on a very very large
- 13:39Speaker 1: protest in UH in January, and they they wanted to
- 13:44Speaker 1: be significant enough that he would be forced to call
- 13:47Speaker 1: out the UH National Guard so they can call him
- 13:51Speaker 1: a dictator. I mean, you know, it's.
- 13:54Speaker 3: Not gonna work. It's not gonna work because people are broken.
- 13:58Speaker 3: The left is broken. Now maybe they'll recover in time
- 14:03Speaker 3: for inauguration, but right now they're they're uh, they're just
- 14:08Speaker 3: a big wet mess here, Martin.
- 14:10Speaker 1: You know, these ideas have been tried so many times
- 14:15Speaker 1: and they have failed. Uh Stammer is just taking control
- 14:19Speaker 1: of Britain and pushing all this stuff in and his
- 14:22Speaker 1: his approval rating is plummeted by more than fifty percent.
- 14:28Speaker 1: People are not interested in this. America was supposed to
- 14:33Speaker 1: be the land of opportunity, and here you come here,
- 14:36Speaker 1: and you know, they keep saying, oh, the rich, the rich,
- 14:40Speaker 1: the rich. Well, people don't even look at it. The
- 14:43Speaker 1: definition of the rich, you know, in the Great Depression
- 14:46Speaker 1: was five million dollars. That was an awful lot of
- 14:48Speaker 1: money back then, when when a Cadillac with six hundred bucks,
- 14:51Speaker 1: you know, and today what is the definition of rich?
- 14:58Speaker 1: They went to two hundred and fifty thousand, But then
- 15:00Speaker 1: they made it householding. Come so, if you and your
- 15:04Speaker 1: wife earned one twenty five apiece, guess what you're it?
- 15:08Speaker 3: And you're like lower middle class in New York City
- 15:10Speaker 3: if you make in two point fifty.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Barely stammer his definition of the riches. Anybody has the savings.
- 15:20Speaker 1: I mean, it's just gotten to be so ridiculous that
- 15:26Speaker 1: our computer shows that this was thirty four years from
- 15:30Speaker 1: the fall of the Berlin Wall. This is where finally
- 15:35Speaker 1: socialism Marxist agenda in the West should start to decline.
- 15:41Speaker 1: It will be it should be collapsed completely by twenty
- 15:45Speaker 1: thirty seven. But just look at people that are Eastern Europe,
- 15:51Speaker 1: China and Russia. There's no way they're interested in going
- 15:55Speaker 1: back to communism.
- 15:58Speaker 3: So what what is next in store for the US?
- 16:02Speaker 3: For the dollar, for gold, especially the stock market inflation.
- 16:09Speaker 3: What can Trump really do? We've got thirty four trillions
- 16:12Speaker 3: worth of debt, We've got hundreds of trillions more in
- 16:17Speaker 3: unfunded mandates. I mean, are we expecting too much here?
- 16:21Speaker 1: Look, I'm you know, I'm arguing, and you can tell
- 16:24Speaker 1: you your viewers to send letters to Trump. I mean,
- 16:29Speaker 1: the way out of this is actually not that difficult.
- 16:32Speaker 1: What you do is you is your coupons and you
- 16:36Speaker 1: swap the debt like I would do to bail out
- 16:39Speaker 1: a company. You do it debt to equity swap. Here,
- 16:43Speaker 1: you would issue a coupon for your a thirty year
- 16:46Speaker 1: bond year holding. They take that to mer Lynch or
- 16:49Speaker 1: whatever broger are you're using, and then you can buy
- 16:51Speaker 1: either securities shares or corporate debt. They then take the
- 16:58Speaker 1: coupon and then the Treasury redeems it end of the debt. Okay,
- 17:03Speaker 1: we then also have to prohibit any borrowing in the future,
- 17:09Speaker 1: but we can, you know, take thirty four trillion and
- 17:12Speaker 1: inject it into the private sector where it belongs. Interest
- 17:16Speaker 1: rates will come down because it's the government out there
- 17:21Speaker 1: competing with you for money, and they are the biggest
- 17:24Speaker 1: Borrower in the room.
- 17:26Speaker 3: So your org down effect, right, the crowding out effect. Yeah.
- 17:30Speaker 1: And I had worked on all of this back in
- 17:32Speaker 1: the nineties with Dick Army and Bill Archer back back then,
- 17:38Speaker 1: and I was asked if to take some security to
- 17:44Speaker 1: redesign it to make it a wealth fund, and I did.
- 17:48Speaker 1: I said, okay, fine, this is how we do it.
- 17:51Speaker 1: People submit their track records. I said, I want a
- 17:55Speaker 1: live track record for ten years. And the Democrats wouldn't
- 18:01Speaker 1: vote for because they said when they got in they
- 18:03Speaker 1: wanted to change the fund managers. I said, I don't
- 18:07Speaker 1: care who they voted for. You're giving this on the
- 18:11Speaker 1: track record. You know, maybe the guy didn't even vote.
- 18:13Speaker 1: I don't care about that. But had we done that,
- 18:18Speaker 1: that down back then was only fifty five hundred, had
- 18:22Speaker 1: we converted that to a wealth fund, so security would
- 18:27Speaker 1: be most people are paying more in so security taxes
- 18:33Speaker 1: than they are an income tax, that wouldn't be there.
- 18:37Speaker 1: I mean, so there are ways to do this, but
- 18:41Speaker 1: you're talking about the bureaucrats. All they're feeding it to trough.
- 18:47Speaker 1: You're paying for their grand children to go to college.
- 18:50Speaker 1: And it look, we can straighten this out if we
- 18:55Speaker 1: you know, really give it a shot. Trump has at
- 19:00Speaker 1: least come out and said he wanted to eliminate the
- 19:02Speaker 1: income tax, but it's putting on towers and replace. I mean,
- 19:08Speaker 1: that would help, but as I said, when you go
- 19:12Speaker 1: down the line, you'll see a lot of people are
- 19:16Speaker 1: paying more in security than they are in income tax.
- 19:21Speaker 1: So we have to deal with the debt problem. If
- 19:24Speaker 1: we can do that, we can really straighten out and
- 19:28Speaker 1: really then do make America grat again.
- 19:31Speaker 3: So is there the will to do it because the
- 19:35Speaker 3: banks don't really want us to do that. The banks
- 19:38Speaker 3: want to see debt go up and up forever, right,
- 19:42Speaker 3: even though it's eventually going to destroy everything, including them.
- 19:46Speaker 3: But this is how they make their money, right.
- 19:49Speaker 1: Well, yes, but that's also starting to come to an end.
- 19:53Speaker 1: Is the problem here is to be a primary dealer,
- 19:58Speaker 1: you have to sign on and agreed to by so
- 20:00Speaker 1: much debt, then you get to resell it. If you
- 20:05Speaker 1: can't sell it, you're stuck with it. So it's the
- 20:08Speaker 1: banks that would be stuck with it. Our interest expenditures
- 20:12Speaker 1: this year about a trillion dollars. You know, just in
- 20:16Speaker 1: five years they're going to be over three to five trillion.
- 20:20Speaker 1: The banks don't have enough capital themselves because they have
- 20:25Speaker 1: to guarantee to buy this debt in advance. That's not
- 20:29Speaker 1: going to happen. So we're at the point where the
- 20:32Speaker 1: banks themselves are not going to be able to handle it.
- 20:35Speaker 3: Okay, So it's in everybody's interest, and we need something
- 20:41Speaker 3: innovative here, out of the box thinking, which we haven't had,
- 20:45Speaker 3: you know, in our country in quite a while, have we.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Look, I'm a trader, and the problem is most of
- 20:54Speaker 1: the academics are all left this. You know. In fact,
- 20:59Speaker 1: once Central Bank it told one of the major companies
- 21:02Speaker 1: and uh this, look, I can't talk to you. You
- 21:05Speaker 1: call Armstrong and it was very interesting. I got on
- 21:08Speaker 1: the phone. Is look, I'm only calling you because they said,
- 21:11Speaker 1: you know, uh, it's I have no respect for academics.
- 21:14Speaker 1: This is great because I'm not an academic, I said,
- 21:21Speaker 1: a trader. You know, I've seen it live, what happens.
- 21:25Speaker 1: You know, I'm non theory.
- 21:28Speaker 3: So this is basically good for everyone because I think,
- 21:33Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong. You got you got better
- 21:35Speaker 3: sources than I do. But Trump understands that we're we're
- 21:39Speaker 3: really coming to the end here. Something major has got
- 21:42Speaker 3: to be done. Yes.
- 21:45Speaker 1: Look, one thing about Trump is that he understands debt
- 21:50Speaker 1: and uh, he understands bankruptcy et cetera. You know, all right, fine,
- 21:57Speaker 1: you know people always been there. Look you he's sell
- 22:00Speaker 1: me with a least experience and he's at least been
- 22:04Speaker 1: through that, so he knows what it is and you're
- 22:08Speaker 1: just looking at it from a government side. I mean,
- 22:13Speaker 1: what has been interesting. I've been getting more calls probably
- 22:17Speaker 1: from foreign governments about what happens now about Trump. It's
- 22:23Speaker 1: very interesting because they too, particularly in Europe, they were
- 22:30Speaker 1: so sold on this idea that that Camilla was going
- 22:33Speaker 1: to win. Even you know, the the Economist magazine in London,
- 22:38Speaker 1: which is I think couldn't possibly walk a straight line.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Oh we're endorsing you know, Camilla. You know it's look,
- 22:48Speaker 1: you even had, you know, Dick Cheney endorsing Camilla. That's
- 22:52Speaker 1: proof that the neocons were there.
- 22:56Speaker 3: You know, I knew there are several reasons. I knew
- 22:59Speaker 3: it was over the botched assassination attempts could only build
- 23:05Speaker 3: build support for them. But when I saw the Washington
- 23:09Speaker 3: Post refrain from endorsing Camilla and pledged to never endorse
- 23:15Speaker 3: another presidential candidate. Look, who controls the Washington Post write
- 23:22Speaker 3: a certain three letter agency that begins with C. The Grahams,
- 23:27Speaker 3: Drothy Graham, They were CIA assets, Woodward and Bernstein. I
- 23:32Speaker 3: don't know if they're assets or they're just dupes. I'll
- 23:35Speaker 3: assume they're genuinely good hearted, kind hearted, misguided libs and
- 23:39Speaker 3: they're dupes. But who who did Watergate? And whenever that
- 23:44Speaker 3: agency leaks, who do they leak to The Washington Post
- 23:49Speaker 3: and Jeff Bezos. The rumor is, although now it's been
- 23:53Speaker 3: wiped from the Internet and I can't find it, but
- 23:55Speaker 3: that the CIA's venture capital fund was one of the
- 23:59Speaker 3: early investors in Amazon and the biggest customer of Amazon
- 24:04Speaker 3: Web Services, the most profitable division, or perhaps the only
- 24:08Speaker 3: profitable division of Amazon. So they seem to have capitulated
- 24:14Speaker 3: ahead because they knew what was coming.
- 24:17Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you that I've known journalists over
- 24:22Speaker 1: the years, and one of the very senior guy that
- 24:26Speaker 1: had one of the top three newspapers in New York,
- 24:28Speaker 1: and he explained how it really works. He says, the
- 24:32Speaker 1: government will call you and say we have a saber.
- 24:37Speaker 1: We want you to spend this story this way, or
- 24:39Speaker 1: kill it or whatever. It is. If you do not,
- 24:43Speaker 1: they come after you personally. Well let's see your taxes, etc.
- 24:49Speaker 1: You know, Snowden was giving his information to a journalist
- 24:54Speaker 1: in California who suddenly drove himself into a tree and died,
- 24:59Speaker 1: all right, giving it to the Guardian in London.
- 25:02Speaker 3: A lot of bad drivers and those journalists they have
- 25:04Speaker 3: a lot of one car accidents hitting trees and uh yeah,
- 25:09Speaker 3: freet beams. You know.
- 25:12Speaker 1: Even the movie they did on me, the Forecaster, it
- 25:16Speaker 1: was a German funded by German TV, and the somebody
- 25:22Speaker 1: broke into their offices over there stole what they thought
- 25:26Speaker 1: was the film, but they had a backup. I mean
- 25:30Speaker 1: that was in Germany, they did it. I mean it's
- 25:35Speaker 1: and even if you look at the film and there
- 25:39Speaker 1: there's a guy named Olover Brown who worked for the
- 25:42Speaker 1: Er of Prisons at the time or he had had
- 25:47Speaker 1: done so, and in there he said the FBI showed
- 25:50Speaker 1: up at his house the day before to try and
- 25:53Speaker 1: intimidate him not to be in a movie.
- 25:56Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
- 25:57Speaker 1: Well, how did they know when the movie crew was
- 26:00Speaker 1: even going to go there? Unless they were illegally tapping somebody?
- 26:04Speaker 3: Loving it and I love conspiracy theories because they're not
- 26:07Speaker 3: really theories. The term conspiracy theorist was created by that
- 26:11Speaker 3: certain three letter agency to discredit critics of the Warren
- 26:16Speaker 3: Commission and the investigation of JFK's assassination. Let's get to
- 26:22Speaker 3: something Trump mentioned, which parallels something that you and I.
- 26:26Speaker 3: As I'm putting together our book, my conversations, my decade
- 26:31Speaker 3: long conversations with the Master Forecaster, I came across it
- 26:36Speaker 3: where you said there shouldn't even be an income tax,
- 26:39Speaker 3: and lo and behold. Two three weeks ago, Trump says,
- 26:43Speaker 3: let's get rid of the income tax. You had a column,
- 26:49Speaker 3: you know, one of your eblasts about that very topic.
- 26:53Speaker 3: How would that work? Could we just do it on
- 26:55Speaker 3: a tariff's and a consumption tax? And is there any
- 27:00Speaker 3: possible way Martin to get this done? Because the worst
- 27:04Speaker 3: days of just about everybody's life out there generally start
- 27:08Speaker 3: in April first, and they end around April sixteenth, when
- 27:13Speaker 3: you have to like try to put all this stuff together,
- 27:15Speaker 3: unless you're like me and I do extensions periodically. But
- 27:19Speaker 3: that's the worst time of the year.
- 27:22Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, it's I actually debated Steve Forbes,
- 27:28Speaker 1: and back then it was Governor Florio of New Jersey
- 27:33Speaker 1: at Princeton University. And Florio was known that, you know,
- 27:36Speaker 1: if it moved, tax it, and if it died, take
- 27:38Speaker 1: it would take whatever's left you out. And so I
- 27:45Speaker 1: was taking the middle ground between Steve he wanted the
- 27:49Speaker 1: flat tax, and Florio, which really like I said, tax everything.
- 27:54Speaker 1: And I turned to him and I said, you know,
- 27:57Speaker 1: you're borrowing from the poor and you don't even have
- 28:01Speaker 1: the dignity to pay him interest. What were you talking about,
- 28:05Speaker 1: I said, because everybody waits for the refund check. So
- 28:08Speaker 1: you're taking their money from the from the lower echelon,
- 28:12Speaker 1: from the poor, and you don't even paying him interest.
- 28:15Speaker 1: And he had no way to come back.
- 28:18Speaker 3: If there is none, there is no there is argument.
- 28:23Speaker 1: Look, Dick Army was for the flat tax, Bill Archer
- 28:28Speaker 1: was for the retail sales tax. I was the one
- 28:31Speaker 1: shuffling back and forth between the two. I finally gave up.
- 28:36Speaker 1: You know, I was sitting in Dick Army's office and
- 28:38Speaker 1: he said, more, do you know cycles I said yes,
- 28:41Speaker 1: And he said if we don't we you know, I
- 28:44Speaker 1: can't agree to the retail sales tax because we won't
- 28:48Speaker 1: be able to repeal the sixteenth Amendment, and when the
- 28:51Speaker 1: Democrats get back in, you'll know what, you know, what
- 28:54Speaker 1: will happen.
- 28:55Speaker 3: We'll have boats.
- 28:56Speaker 1: And I said, Dick, you're right, and I just kind
- 28:58Speaker 1: of gave up at that point. So we're not going
- 29:02Speaker 1: to get the sixteenth Amendment, you know, repeat, because the state,
- 29:07Speaker 1: the states, you're all going to have that. So what
- 29:08Speaker 1: we can do is basically just eliminate the income taxes.
- 29:14Speaker 1: We don't need it, stop the borrowing, all right, get
- 29:19Speaker 1: rid of the debt, as I said with the cube
- 29:21Speaker 1: on issue, all right. And then when you do that,
- 29:25Speaker 1: you then have to take security and turn it into
- 29:28Speaker 1: wealth bund because it's all stuffed in there with the debt.
- 29:32Speaker 1: And we don't need taxes when taxes were only necessary
- 29:39Speaker 1: historically because money was gold and silver coin, so the
- 29:43Speaker 1: king had to get some backed in order to spend. Yes, okay,
- 29:47Speaker 1: now it's just paper, all right. There's no reason for
- 29:51Speaker 1: us to be borrowing our own paper or to even be,
- 29:55Speaker 1: you know, imposing taxes to get some of the paper back.
- 29:59Speaker 1: It's not necessary.
- 30:01Speaker 3: Are we just prompt? Do we just print? The difference
- 30:03Speaker 3: is that.
- 30:04Speaker 1: It yes, it is far less over seventy percent of
- 30:09Speaker 1: the national debt at times has been a cumulative interest.
- 30:13Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 30:14Speaker 1: I mean, if we had just printed the money we needed,
- 30:19Speaker 1: we wouldn't be anywhere close to a thirty four trillion
- 30:23Speaker 1: dollar deficit and you wouldn't have the inflation. We have
- 30:26Speaker 1: this idea that printing is inflationary versus borrowing is nonsense.
- 30:32Speaker 1: That was back during the Brenton Woods days. If you
- 30:37Speaker 1: had a need bond, you went to the bank and
- 30:39Speaker 1: you say can I borrow? And it was illegal. You
- 30:42Speaker 1: couldn't bar against government debt. So after nineteen seventy one
- 30:46Speaker 1: you went trade futures. You can buy T bills, Fannie
- 30:49Speaker 1: May's whatever, Postmas collateral with the broker, all right, so
- 30:54Speaker 1: you can borrow. It's money that pays interest. That's it.
- 30:57Speaker 1: There's no difference between printing it and borrowing it, other
- 31:01Speaker 1: than if you borrow what you pay injuries, whereas your
- 31:03Speaker 1: printed you don't. So it would be less inflationary today
- 31:07Speaker 1: to print than to borrow. And let's just look at
- 31:12Speaker 1: this realistically. Get rid of the debt, stop the borrowing.
- 31:17Speaker 1: We won't have the interest expenditures. And look over fifty
- 31:21Speaker 1: percent of the interest that we spend goes out of
- 31:24Speaker 1: the country and China owns ten percent of the national debt,
- 31:29Speaker 1: so two hundred billion of the interesting this year goes
- 31:34Speaker 1: to China.
- 31:35Speaker 3: And also you're looking at, you know, the banking system
- 31:42Speaker 3: becoming unsustainable as a result of this.
- 31:46Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's like I said, a primary dealer
- 31:50Speaker 1: has to it gets that license, but it must guarantee
- 31:53Speaker 1: to buy a certain amount of the debt. And you're
- 31:57Speaker 1: this level of debt is exceeding the cap fertalization of
- 32:01Speaker 1: the primary dealers. They're not going to be able to
- 32:05Speaker 1: keep this system going. And look at the federal budget.
- 32:09Speaker 3: What we're paying out money for half of it's wasted, right,
- 32:12Speaker 3: I mean, I think any normal person could agree. We
- 32:15Speaker 3: got I did a chat GPT search, give me the
- 32:18Speaker 3: top one hundred agencies I could get rid of and
- 32:21Speaker 3: nobody would even notice it. And half those names, Martin,
- 32:25Speaker 3: I didn't even know they existed. I had no idea
- 32:28Speaker 3: they were an entity, and you could replicate the same
- 32:30Speaker 3: exact thing on the state level. This is to require
- 32:34Speaker 3: like a revolution at paradigm shift in thinking, isn't it.
- 32:38Speaker 1: Look when I lived in New Jersey, every little hamlet
- 32:41Speaker 1: had a chief of police and a police force because
- 32:44Speaker 1: they used it to raise money. Here in Florida, we
- 32:48Speaker 1: have the police forces for the county and so you know,
- 32:53Speaker 1: I was driving down the you know, park boulevard. I
- 32:56Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention because nobody was on the road. He is, all,
- 32:58Speaker 1: you're doing fifteen or third. I'm sorry, I wasn't very
- 33:03Speaker 1: paying attention and it took my licensees. You never had
- 33:07Speaker 1: a ticket, I said, no, Well, here, I don't want
- 33:09Speaker 1: to be the first one to give you one. I mean,
- 33:12Speaker 1: that would never take place in New Jersey. New Jersey.
- 33:15Speaker 1: They would have called out the swat team, figured it
- 33:17Speaker 1: out how to be a fake name. I mean Jersey.
- 33:22Speaker 1: They would give you a parking ticket in a private
- 33:24Speaker 1: parking lot if you were slightly over the line, and
- 33:27Speaker 1: it was just ridiculous. They used it to raise money.
- 33:32Speaker 1: And that's the big difference I see, you know, from
- 33:36Speaker 1: Florida versus New Jersey. I mean, New Jersey was horrible.
- 33:41Speaker 3: But no income tax in Florida, so automatically of the
- 33:46Speaker 3: budget is less than half of the budget of New
- 33:48Speaker 3: York State with three or four million more people, which
- 33:53Speaker 3: is a pretty mean feat.
- 33:56Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, you have a lot of retire people down here,
- 34:01Speaker 1: so that's good because they keep that check against government.
- 34:05Speaker 1: They can't raise the taxes on them too much. And look,
- 34:10Speaker 1: this is why you know Florida is the number one
- 34:13Speaker 1: stay everybody's moving to. Yeah, California is the number one
- 34:17Speaker 1: state people were leaving.
- 34:19Speaker 3: Funny, And the weather in California is actually better than
- 34:22Speaker 3: the weather in Florida. The beaches are better in Florida,
- 34:25Speaker 3: for sure, but the actual year round weather, a dryness,
- 34:28Speaker 3: all that, it's better generally in California. So don't tell
- 34:32Speaker 3: me it's the weather why people come here in stead
- 34:34Speaker 3: in California.
- 34:36Speaker 1: Well, you know, people are leaving there, So what does
- 34:39Speaker 1: Newsom do. Oh, let's put an exit a tax to
- 34:42Speaker 1: punish them.
- 34:42Speaker 3: For leaving, like New Jersey. New Jersey's had one. Yeah,
- 34:46Speaker 3: it's got to be unconstitutional. No one's ever challenged it. Well,
- 34:50Speaker 3: it's going to be interesting to see what happens here.
- 34:53Speaker 3: Will things really change or will they just go on
- 34:56Speaker 3: the way they did? Kind of Trump's first term, I
- 34:59Speaker 3: think he knew who all the players are. The other
- 35:02Speaker 3: thing is he's going to hit the ground running, you know,
- 35:06Speaker 3: all those executive orders, immigration and everything else he plans
- 35:10Speaker 3: to do. He's going to walk into the White House
- 35:12Speaker 3: with them. It's not like he's going to have to
- 35:14Speaker 3: try to figure out, well, what should I do first?
- 35:17Speaker 3: Who should I appoint to this? Who should I appoint
- 35:19Speaker 3: to that? You know, it might be the best thing
- 35:21Speaker 3: that ever happened for the country that the suspicious way
- 35:25Speaker 3: in which the twenty twenty election you know, took place
- 35:30Speaker 3: and proclaimed the winner, making him have two unconsecutive terms,
- 35:36Speaker 3: might make him way more effective than if he had
- 35:39Speaker 3: just continued on a second term. Yes.
- 35:41Speaker 1: Well, also, I can tell you because you know, I
- 35:45Speaker 1: used to be part of the wedding process for picking
- 35:47Speaker 1: presidents and I would send me in, I would meet them, Okay,
- 35:50Speaker 1: and I know because I've been there. You take Bush Junior.
- 35:56Speaker 1: He did not pick Dick Cheney. But you know the
- 35:59Speaker 1: deep state that picked the cabinet, they did the same
- 36:02Speaker 1: thing that Trump. They said, oh, you know, you're not
- 36:05Speaker 1: a politician. We have to give confidence to the world,
- 36:08Speaker 1: and we need people with experience in here. They put
- 36:11Speaker 1: in John Bolton. You know, even Trump said, you know,
- 36:15Speaker 1: fired him. He says he wanted to start World War
- 36:17Speaker 1: three because they shot down an unmanned drone.
- 36:25Speaker 3: Drunes are one hundred dollars a piece now less than
- 36:27Speaker 3: one hundred dollars, so that's really worth going to war for.
- 36:32Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's uh, look, I've known these people.
- 36:37Speaker 1: I knew Bill Crystal even spoke at our conferences. His
- 36:40Speaker 1: father started the old Neocon movement, and you know his
- 36:44Speaker 1: his stick was to uh he wanted to remove Saddam
- 36:48Speaker 1: Husane uh Kadaffi and Asade out of Syria and get
- 36:53Speaker 1: rid of these dictators who will bring democracy to the
- 36:56Speaker 1: Middle East and create pieces that you're out of your
- 36:58Speaker 1: mind I dream.
- 37:00Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 37:00Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's the same thing with Russia. It's
- 37:04Speaker 1: regime change all the time that they're interested in and
- 37:08Speaker 1: sticking in their puppets to run something.
- 37:11Speaker 3: Well, they got their regime change this time. Martin. Hey,
- 37:14Speaker 3: going to see you tomorrow Friday, on November eighth, at
- 37:19Speaker 3: your conference in Orlando. I'll have the link in the
- 37:24Speaker 3: show notes. Sign up for the conference if you haven't
- 37:26Speaker 3: done it already. If any of you out there are
- 37:28Speaker 3: going to be there, send me an email kl Carrie
- 37:32Speaker 3: at Carrie LUTs dot com. I'll buy you a drink. Martin.
- 37:35Speaker 3: Will see you tomorrow. Be well.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Oh, thanks a lot, It's always good to see you.
- 37:40Speaker 1: Take care of yourself there.
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