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Does Tim Duncan have the most dominant individual season of all time? Top 5 NBA contenders plus more! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Welcome, Welcome, welcome, Welcome back to another episode of the so called
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  Sports Analyst, Episode number thirty five. Josh, how you doing. It's
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  been a good week, you know, still coming off my high from the
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  NFL. You know, it's got to put it out there. Every week
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  combines this week for NFL. But this isn't an NFL podcast, our second
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  NBA podcast of the well third technically, so I'm excited to get into it.
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  There's a lot of cool things that happen and we have some pretty cool
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  topics coming up. Yes, sir, you're right about that. But before
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  let's go ahead and get into this first topic right here, and which we're
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  gonna just go over the NBA stand ins, see what happened over this course
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  of the week, and a couple of games or a couple of things that
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  just stood out throughout the week. Because a lot of stuff happens throughout the
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  NBA. You have every team at least played two to three games. So
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  the Eastern Conference pretty much looks the same right now. The Boston Celtics are
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  the one seed Calves, two seed Bucks, three seed Knicks, four seed
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  six Ers, five seed Heat, six seed Magic, seven seed Pacers,
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  eight seed. Then we have the Western Conference. The Minnesota Temperwolves are the
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  one seed Thunder, two seed Denver's, the three seed Clippers are the four
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  seed, Pelicans are five, Sons are six, Sacramento seven, and the
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  MAVs are eight. So there really wasn't that much movement. But throughout this
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  week right here, Josh, what was something that stood out to you?
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  Well, I think what we're gonna have to get into a little bit is
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  Jalen Brunson's health for the New York Knicks. He came down with some neck
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  spasms and he missed this last game and it's said to have him fantasy basketball
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  in his crunch time. You know, it's playoff time coming around for playoff
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  basketball for fantasy basketball. But yeah, that's just something to look at because
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  he is this team like they don't have really well they have. I guess
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  they got Julius Randall. But Julius Randall was the same guy we thought,
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  is it the guy anyone thought he would be come So without Jaylen Brunston,
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  we're gonna see if they can continue winning and hold up for if he misses
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  a couple games, because right now it's it's like you're fighting for your seating
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  at this point. Oh yeah, and you don't want to fall to the
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  to the seventh seed or something because it's pretty close and then you have to
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  play for a playing get close to either being eight seed and playing in a
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  play in or being on the brink of not oh yeah. And it doesn't
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  help that O Giannobi he's hurt as well. So there's a bunch of health
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  concerns that they have. But we already know that this is the last stretch.
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  Teams are gonna rise or teams are gonna fall. And I think one
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  of the biggest things I stood out, I'm gonna kind of stay on the
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  same topic that you did as far as talking about the Knicks. It was
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  a Knicks and the Celtics. I believe it was on Saturday or Sunday,
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  and the score was one, sixteen, one or two. It was it
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  wasn't really a close game and JB or Jalen Brown, he had thirty points.
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  And the biggest thing that stood out to me is that the Celtics what
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  they usually do, they settle for jump shots. They're jump shooting team,
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  and I feel like that could be the be their weakness down the road.
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  And they had fifty eight points in the paint. That really stood out to
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  me. So do you think this game it shows more about the Knicks or
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  it shows more about the Celtics and what they can be down the road.
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  I feel like it has to show more about the Knicks. I feel like
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  because the Celtics, we expect them to win these type of games and expect
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  them to kind of figure it out. They are the veteran team. Well,
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  the Knicks have veterans, get let's not take that out of the of
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  the topic here. But with the Celtics, we expect them to be the
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  best team in the East. That's what I expect them to be in the
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  championship. A lot of people expect them to be in the Championship. It
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  just a matter of them figuring out certain little things that can help elevate them.
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  And that's getting inside the paint if they can score inside that this is
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  gonna be pretty hard for a lot of teams to deal with them, especially
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  with Christops and now Horford and them. But the thing with those too,
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  his health always it's always health when Christops persingis. But on the other side,
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  for the Knicks, it shows, it shows a lot about them because
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  Hartenstein, he's a he's a he's a good player, he's good interior,
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  he's a bigger dude. But the thing is he doesn't when it comes down
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  to people are more skilled than him. He's oftentimes going to lose those battles
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  because he's very limited, especially if he's especially if you want to do the
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  flip side, your bigs have to score also on the inside. And then
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  Julius Randall didn't play. He had a dislocated right shoulder, so that that's
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  also something to look at. And then Menchell Robinson doesn't. He's just not
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  around. He's always injured. And that's a big thing that's gonna hurt this
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  New York next team is their interior is completely depleted. And then Julius Randall,
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  even when he's in the game, he's not an interior power forward.
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  He's he's he's outside. Yeah, let me, I show all that type
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  of stuff. So I think it's so much more about the Knicks because it's
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  gonna matter the most. These things are gonna come back to hurt them,
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  especially when you have to play the Calves who have Evan Mobley who can get
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  his own on the inside, and you have Jared Allen who at times can
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  take over in the paint, and then you got to go through uh always
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  Giannis. And it's just it's gonna be tough for the Knicks to keep up
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  with a lot of teams. Yeah, and I know I said last week.
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  I really like the Knicks and what they're at right now. But in
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  the NBA, I don't know about you, Josh, but I feel like
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  things they could change week to week. It could be a certain game,
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  a certain injury, or just how the team has flown, especially at an
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  All Star break, Like we're mentioning, there's you only have twenty five,
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  twenty five, twenty seven games out of the All Star break, so every
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  game really matters. This is like this is like the NFL season for the
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  NBA, where you can't mess up. You're really trying to perfect yourself and
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  get ready for the playoffs, and it seems like the Knicks they're not going
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  in the right way. And one thing that I found is that they're twenty
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  three and twelve against teams under five hundred, and they only have three wins
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  against teams over who are over five hundred. So that's a big thing right
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  there. Can you can you beat the good teams? Can you beat the
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  good teams? Because if not, then you're going to be out of the
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  playoffs very quickly. And like I mentioned there, they're the four seed right
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  now, so they'll play the sixers. Joel Embiid will potentially get back.
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  So it's looking pretty scary and that's kind of even even sorry even then,
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  on the Knicks, they just came to a last minute game against the Detroit
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  Pistons, like literally the final seconds game where honestly, it was a foul
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  at the end by Divin Dante Devins Senzo I forgot who had the ball,
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  but he taggled the dude and they didn't call it that They still ended up
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  scoring off I think Josh Hart. I think Josh Hart was the one that
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  scored. Yeah it was Josh Hart, no, yeah, yeah, And
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  then they basically escaped that game without they basically escaped the game. And it
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  shouldn't be that close if you're the Knicks playing the Detroit Pistons, the worst
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  team in basketball. Yeah, yeah, no question. And I want to
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  just get into the Celtics a little bit more so as far as Jaylen Brown
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  and Jason Tatum. I know there's all the side piece pieces around them,
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  as far as Drew Drew Holliday, Al Horford, Derek Whye, Chris Stops.
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  But do you think this is a year where they could finally get it
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  done? It's enough, because we've seen certain times where where it just hasn't
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  been enough for them, and they don't seem like a legit duo that can
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  win the championship. They've been close, obviously, they made it to the
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  finals two games away a couple of years ago. But do you think this
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  is fine of the year. I feel like, well, we're gonna get
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  into our top five contenders here later. So I don't want to give too
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  much insight onto what I think about the Celtics, But if it's not this
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  year, then what year is it gonna be? You know? Because statistically
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  what I'm what I'm gonna get into later, they're at the top of everything.
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  They're Yeah, they're they're consistently they're and the one thing that we're harping
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  on is attacking the rim and they they haven't done yet. Really. You
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  pointed out in the next game that they did and they ended up winning the
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  game. But the thing is, I don't want to give in too much
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  before we get into them later. But it's like, do I trust Jalen
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  Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown? No, I do not. I just haven't
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  seen it when it matters the most. I don't trust them. They got
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  beat by the Heat, They've lost in the championship. It's just off over
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  and over off in times that they fall short. And I just don't know.
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  If I don't feel get the same feeling, I don't get the feeling,
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  then it's going to be any different this year. Okay, So let
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  me ask you a quick quick question. Is Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown both
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  top twenty players in the league. Jason Tatum for sure, hands down top
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  twenty player in the NBA. Jalen Brown, he's at least he's on the
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  cusp. He's on the cusp like he's he's like, I give him fifteen
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  through twenty. I think you could argue fifteen through twenty for sure for him.
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  Yeah, but then if someone gives me twenty one, I'm not mad,
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  you know. But also maybe twenty players better than Jaylen Brown. I
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  want you to do it, you know, like I want you to sit
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  here and do it. But if it's like fifteen through twenty range, I
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  can see him right there. Yeah, exactly. So that's that's why I'm
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  saying you definitely have the talent up there. That's the formula to win a
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  championship. You need a top ten player and then you need a player a
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  little bit outside of that range who can do just enough. So they have
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  the pieces there, but it's just not getting done. It's just a matter
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  of play style, a mixture of coaching. Because even when they had Brad
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  Stevens, they did a little bit of this. Obviously, obviously they had
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  a Mayadoka for a year, but stuff happened. Obviously stuff happened. But
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  but yeah, so oh yeah, and before we move on to the to
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  the next game, So I said that stat wrong. So the Knicks they're
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  twenty three and two against teams over or below five hundred. They're they're twelve
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  and twenty one against teams above five five hundred. So I just said that
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  stat wrong, but I just wanted to correct myself. So nobody's like,
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  oh, well he said the stat wrong. Will No, I fixed it.
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  But all right, let's get into this next game right here, which
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  it was the Phoenix Suns and the Mavericks. I believe it was a Thursday
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  game and the Mavericks they won one twenty three to one thirteen. Obviously,
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  Bradley Bill he wasn't playing, but everybody else for the Mavericks they were playing.
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  So do you think that the MAVs after beating a team like this with
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  the Sun. I know Bradley Bill wasn't playing, but everybody else was playing.
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  Do you think they can make a deep playoff run. I believe they
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  can. They have arguably the best player in the world with Luca don Chis
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  on their team. Just a matter of everyone else stepping up and if Kyrie
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  can stay healthy. And I feel like we're gonna say that every with these
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  aging veterans that we have in the league. We're gonna say that with every
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  team. We're probably gonna talk about today, can't stay healthy? Can this
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  guy stay healthy? But it's really true. If Kyrie Irving is on the
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  court with Luca don Chis, that's probably the best one to two combo offensive
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  that you could probably possibly get in the NBA. But then plus like bringing
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  in Daniel Gafford and Derek l Likeley, they have a good interior defensively and
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  rebounding wise. So I do think that they can make a run. I
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  do think that it's just the West is so stacked from top to bottom one
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  through ten that I can't make. The only team I'm comfortable of saying can
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  do it is the Nuggets, and that's yeah who they have the best player
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  in the world, and then they have then they have the experience of course
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  winning a championship last year. But as far as that, I can't say
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  if they make a d playoff run, but they can for sure make some
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  noise in the playoffs. Oh yeah. And so I think that the biggest
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  thing from the trade down on like you like you mentioned they got Daniel Gafford,
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  But I feel like PJ. Washington that was a big move right there,
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  because it was not only did you get an interior presence in Daniel Gafford,
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  we got PJ. Washington so now you have different type of defenders.
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  You have an interior defender, a wing defender. And Josh Green who's Who's
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  He may not be the as big as PJ. Washington, but he's more
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  of a perimeter defender, if that makes sense. And Kyrie Irving and Luca
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  they've been playing, They've at least been attempting to play defense this year,
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  and that's been the biggest thing. Can they they Yeah, they've been trying.
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  So yeah, can they at least give an effort on defense? And
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  I feel like it'll be enough because the buckets are gonna, they're gonna,
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  they're gonna score no matter what. It's Luca and Kyrie the best backcourt in
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  the league, off the top of my head that I could think of,
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  but I think that the biggest thing from this game. Let's let's just start
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  there. It's obviously Kobe White and Alex Caruso, so don't get started.
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  But so I just wanted to give this quick stat wait wait, wait,
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  no, no, no, no, no, wait Kobe White has hair.
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  Oh wait he makes for both of them. Wait no, Alex Caruso's
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  baald. So you know what, y'all. You're right, y'all, congratulations,
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  y'all have more hair. Well, you know what, we have more
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  wins. How about that. We're not gonna talk about anything else between the
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  Spurs and I know you have Warmby. That's a trump card right there.
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  I can't say nothing, or you know what, six championships? How about
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  that? Six championships at least we have one in the past two the last
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  century. We have five in this century. So who's better MJ or Tim
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  Duncan Tim duncan Doug stop it? Stop it start doing? No, no,
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  no, all right. But like I was mentioning, so the Dallas
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  Mavericks the past nine games, they have the second best defense in the league.
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  I know it's a short sample size, but just out of those nine
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  games, ever since they got the trade acquisitions, they've been up there as
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  far as defensively, and if they can continue to do that, then then
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  it's going to be really scary because you already know they're gonna score, like
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  I mentioned, But as far as from the sun side right here, like
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  you mentioned health, it's always an issue here. But say, for instance,
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  it's just Devin Booker and KD how far do you think that duo could
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  get in the playoffs? Especially in the West second round. I think they
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  can get to the second round. I don't see the Suns making a lot
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  of noise. I wasn't a big believer in them at the beginning of the
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  season. I had to put them high, just out of respect of Katie
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  Devin Booker. But the thing is, Kevin Durant and Devin Booker are just
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  not enough. Like they're not enough, especially defensively. Kevin Durant is not
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  the same as he was when he was younger. He was never the greatest
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  defender, but he was still a good defender. And now it's just he's
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  not the same guy. He's more cautious now, saving his body for offense.
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  And then Devin Booker, Devin Booker is on and off. Some days
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  he'll play good defense, some days he won't play good defense. Yeah,
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  And then so if you're not scoring points, and then the interior Joseph nrkis
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  is your best interior defender? I don't I don't buy it. I don't
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  see it. And then the bench we already talked, we harped, I
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  harped on the bitch last week when I was talking about him. It's just
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  not the depth, isn't there, like it's top heavy with Devin Booker and
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  Kevin Durant, but then once you get after those two, it's literally a
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  down hill spiral from there. So I don't see them doing getting too deep
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  second round. Maybe yeah, And even if they bring Bradley Bill back,
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  it's not gonna it's definitely not gonna help out defensively. So they're just in
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  a they're just in a situation where we score more points than the other team
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  and hopefully we win. So and that's not a formula of success. Well,
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  we saw it last year with the Denver Nuggets as far as they didn't
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  have one of the best defenses, but they were at least a good half
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  court defense, which the playoffs, it's all about your half court offense and
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  defense. But let's go ahead and move on to this next game right here.
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  One of the other games that stood out was Oklahoma City Thunder versus Los
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  Angeles Clippers, And what's the Thunder? They just steamrolled the Clippers one twenty
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  nine to one oh seven. And yes, Paul George, he didn't play,
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  But you still have Kawhi Leonard, you still have James Harden, you
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  still have still have the rest of the crew out there. So after seeing
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  this, Oh no, actually, Paul George did play. I just looked
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  at it. Paul George did play. So are you starting to buy into
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  the Thunder As far as the experience, it doesn't matter. I know that's
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  always a big talking point. But do you think that the experience matters in
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  this case here? Like are we talking like in this specific game or like
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  down the road? Like does experience matter? I feel like down the road
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  it may matter because you play more games deeper into the playoffs and it just
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  gets tough after a while because your legs are starting to get tired. You're
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  playing, you're traveling, you play home game, you go back, you
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  come back, you come back in the playoffs. So that I can take
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  a toll on people, but I'm not gonna harm too much on this game.
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  I feel like they did steamroll them. They did beat them pretty good.
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  But the Clippers, the way the Thunder play is five out and they
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  play get let SGA really set up and run picking rolls and run the offense
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  correctly. That's they play good team ball. And they Yeah, I don't
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  want we talked. I talked to about the top five contenders, but they
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  are the number one team when it comes to three point shooting. So if
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  they're on, they're they're probably gonna blow you out out of the water in
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  the game. So you have to keep up. You have to keep up
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  with them shooting wise. If you don't, then you're just you're just kind
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  of screwed at that point, and it's kind of weird seeing that from a
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  team that has is Then the thing is with the Clippers, they don't play
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  as a whole. They play as ISO players. There number one IO team
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  in the NBA, which they're the most efficient ISO team in the NBA.
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  Also, but you but sometimes in the regular season that doesn't work out because
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  some teams come up with a game playing to beat you. In the playoffs
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  it works out a little bit more, but right now, it's just not
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  good for regular season basketball. Yeah, and I know you mentioned the thunders
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  off offense here, but in this game, their defense is what really stood
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  out to me. They had three defense in the NBA oh yeah, nine
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  stills and eleven blocks. That's something that's that's crazy there, and it makes
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  you realize that they have all the foundational pieces there. And honestly, I'm
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  gonna go ahead and say it. I'm not gonna give away rankings later on
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  down the road, but or later on in this episode, but they have
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  what it takes. They definitely do. They definitely do. And Shae,
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  I know you said Luca he's arguably the best player in the league, which
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  I'm not arguing with, but Shay, he's definitely up there too. He's
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  playing right behind, Yeah, at a top three level. That was a
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  stat that I was watching between the Rockets and Thunder game that's going on right
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  now. Still, he already has forty five thirty point games. You know
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  how insane that is. Thirty five or forty five thirty point games already,
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  That's that's just ridiculous. He's doing it on both sides of the floor.
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  And all right, this next game right here, it was between the Milwaukee
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  Bucks and the Minnesota Timberwolves, in which the Bucks they won one to twelve
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  to one oh seven. The Wolves they kind of made a late comeback,
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  but the Bucks, they they steamrolled them in the third quarter. They had
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  I believe it was a fifteen to oh run. So this game what really
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  stood out to you? Do you think this is a sign for the Bucks
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  offense. They're gonna start going up or do you think this was just a
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  bad game for the Wolves right here where just a quarter got out of their
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  hands and just everything went bad. Okay, I'm not gonna say the Bucks.
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  The Bucks didn't win this game because they still have Giannis, and Giannis
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  is arguably playing the best offensive offensively that he's played in his entire career this
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  year. But as far as the flip side, I just think the Bucks
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  played they Ever since Dark Rivers has come as a head coach. As much
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  as we want to say, their defense has gotten better. Adrian Griffin is
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  not gonna be the coach of the year, but hey, not too much
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  on my boy, Adrian Griffin, but uh, Doc Rivers, every since
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  it came out, their defense has gone a little bit better. The thing
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  is, they're just aging like Chris Middleton's in and out. Damian Lillard.
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  Damian Lillard and Giannis are starting to finally pick it up a little bit,
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  but they they're not the same like one They're not the one two punch that
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  they were hyped to be going into the season. As far as the Timberwolves
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  side, I kind of feel like they they held up. They held them
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  one hundred and twelve points, their number one defense in the NBA. It
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  just a matter if can they knock down shots? And I feel like in
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  this one they just probably weren't They just they just weren't knocking down shots.
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  And so when it comes down, I think it's just a good basketball game.
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  Like it was just a good basketball game between two good teams. So
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  one's gonna come out on top often. Yeah. Sorry, So this was
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  definitely an example of playoff basketball right here, and it could potentially be a
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  finals matchup here. And I just think the biggest thing is that the Bucks,
• 22:11
  they just force the Timberwolves into making tough shots, making mid range shots,
• 22:18
  which we know the analytics nowadays it doesn't favor the mid range shot.
• 22:22
  It's either layups or threes. And when you're taking along mid range shot,
• 22:26
  that's just it's been proven it's the most inefficient shot in the league. And
• 22:33
  Anthony Edwards he likes to jump or he's just a volume shooter. He's gonna
• 22:37
  shoot at least twenty five times a game. Mike Conley, he is a
• 22:41
  good shooter, but he doesn't shoot the ball enough. Karl Anthony Town sometimes
• 22:45
  you get a little bit wild and Rudy Gobert. That's just the biggest thing
• 22:49
  for me. Can in a playoff situation, can he be at least a
• 22:56
  threat, at least a threat offensively to where they actually respect him. Because
• 23:00
  in this game, right here, Brook Lopez, he was just dropping back
• 23:04
  like, nah, you're not gonna do nothing. So he just dropped back
• 23:07
  and the guy just had a fight over the screen. And that's just a
• 23:11
  mid range shot and which it's a tough shot. And that's why they won
• 23:14
  this game. That's why they went off in the third quarter. And I
• 23:18
  think this is signs to come for the Milwaukee Bucks. I think that if
• 23:23
  Damian Lillard and Jannis they could have that dynamic punch. I know Damian Litard,
• 23:30
  he didn't have the stats in this game, but in the third quarter
• 23:33
  and in the fourth quarter, he took over and when it was crunch time,
• 23:37
  it was dame time. That's what it was. He made two tough
• 23:40
  shots like he always does. And that's a formula of success. And if
• 23:44
  you could get something from Chris Middleton, which I know he's not back yet,
• 23:48
  but if you could get something from him whenever he comes back, that's
• 23:52
  gonna be even more of a threat there. And this last game right here,
• 23:57
  it actually barely happened. It was the Mavericks once again in the Calves
• 24:03
  and which so I was just looking at the highlights just now. Yeah,
• 24:07
  And this was a crazy game right here. The Mavericks, they were down
• 24:11
  fifteen before the second half, made it a two point game. Then the
• 24:15
  MAVs storm back in the third quarter, and then obviously Max Strews he made
• 24:21
  that sixty foot three. So do you think as far as with the Calves
• 24:26
  because nobody really believes in the Calves here because the smaller backcourt, and then
• 24:32
  after what happened last year against the Knicks and how they just got embarrassed,
• 24:37
  do you think that they're poised for a deep playoff runt here? I kind
• 24:42
  of do. I do think. So I hate to wear a deep playoff
• 24:51
  run because I feel like that to meet things conference championship. But I will
• 24:53
  say for them take round for sure, but with a high chance of getting
• 24:57
  to the conference championship, I'll say that. So. I think Max Streus
• 25:03
  is a very underrated ad. I think there is a couple of games briging
• 25:07
  at the beginning of the season where he was dropping like twenty five, twenty
• 25:10
  eight, twenty seven points, like back to back nights. He fell off
• 25:12
  a little bit, but then he's like some games, he'll pick it back
• 25:17
  up in spurts. But he's a three point shooter that they did need because
• 25:19
  last year outside Kris LeVert isn't He's not even that good of a three point
• 25:25
  shooter. So it's like, uh, Donovan, it takes a lot of
• 25:27
  pressure off Donovan Minchell of having a freaking throw up thirty five points at thirty
• 25:32
  five shots a game, because that's just like throw up insane amounts of shots
• 25:37
  because I always took his under is over for shots attempted in a game when
• 25:41
  last year. But but as far as this year, they still have the
• 25:45
  interior with Levin Mobiley and Jerry Allen like we were talking about earlier in the
• 25:49
  pod, and then Jalen Brunson. I'm Jayleen Brunson. Darius Garland's a great
• 25:53
  facilitator, and the I think I think they I think this is the year.
• 25:59
  I think this is the year that they can kind of put it a
• 26:00
  little bit together. Last year they were pretty inexperienced together as a group,
• 26:03
  and then they were inexperienced just as players being in the playoffs and we do
• 26:07
  different type of basketball scenario. So yeah, this year, I think they
• 26:12
  can make some noise. So yeah, as of right now, they would
• 26:15
  be playing the Mavericks and then they would play in the next series between the
• 26:19
  winner of the Heat and the Bullet they play in the first round. They
• 26:23
  would play the Magic right now, I think, said Mavericks. No,
• 26:27
  no, no, no, honestly, I would like to see a seven
• 26:32
  game series of that the way this game was. But no, yeah,
• 26:37
  they would play the Magic right now. Then they would play the winner of
• 26:40
  the Bucks and Heat series. So yeah, I could see either Miami or
• 26:44
  Milwaukee winning. But do you think a second round a second round exit?
• 26:49
  Do you think that's a success for the Cavs this season after having the second
• 26:55
  best record in the East, already having thirty eight wins. You had fifty
• 26:59
  wins last year, so I'm pretty confident that they're gonna break that. So
• 27:03
  do you do you think that would be a success here? I feel like
• 27:07
  they have to get to the conference championship or there's gonna be some changes that
• 27:11
  happens here. I know it's a young team, but still, this is
• 27:15
  what I hate about the NBA. Compared to the NFL, like the part
• 27:18
  that playoffs, coaches that make the playoffs consistently with young teams still get fired
• 27:25
  like it's like, let them grow together. But honestly, that's it.
• 27:29
  That's something that could pop up if they don't, if they don't move to
• 27:30
  the conference championship, because when you have such a high expectations and put show
• 27:33
  the ceiling that you could be this great team in the regular season and it
• 27:38
  doesn't move to expectations when the playoffs come around, because when it comes to
• 27:41
  basketball, it's only five guys on the court, So it's a lot more
• 27:45
  if if it really comes down to coaching, if you don't make adjustments,
• 27:49
  and then if you don't, if you and also if the shots aren't falling,
• 27:53
  and if the shots aren't falling, they're gonna make They're gonna find players
• 27:56
  who will make the shots. Yeah. So, and then the thing is
• 28:00
  are they going to pay Donovan Mitchell big money or are they gonna let him
• 28:03
  go? Are they gonna trade him? Because there's a lot of there was
• 28:06
  even teams during at the beginning of the season who were like, maybe Donovan
• 28:08
  Mitchell great trading trade candidate to Los Angeles Lakers. Great cannant to this.
• 28:14
  Yeah, so, so I kind of feel like conference championship has to be
• 28:19
  at the highest at their highest goal. Besides, championship has to be the
• 28:25
  goal that they have to reach for for for them to be safe. Yeah,
• 28:30
  I agree with you on that, And I don't know about you.
• 28:33
  So I would take Donovan Mitchell over Daria Scarland. That's just me. I
• 28:38
  don't know how you would feel about that. So I would try to trade
• 28:41
  Darius Scarland the way that they're able to get draft capital nowadays, or Rudy
• 28:48
  Goberry I traded for five or a five six first round picks. You could
• 28:52
  easily get that for Darial Star, two time Defensive Player of the Year.
• 28:56
  You yeah, that's true. But okay, okay, de Jonte win for
• 29:02
  three first round picks, so he would easy he would go for three,
• 29:07
  at least three four first round picks and some capital. So maybe to a
• 29:11
  team John Star. Yeah, he's made an All Star team and then he
• 29:19
  was All Defensive Team before. Has Darius Darland ever done those things? Darius
• 29:26
  Garland, he's been an All Star before, and okay, no, he
• 29:32
  hasn't made an All NBA team. Well, what what year did de Jonte
• 29:37
  make the All Star team? The year he got traded, the year we
• 29:41
  made the play in and then he got traded the next year? Oh okay,
• 29:45
  so no, but wasn't he wasn't, steph. I thought he was
• 29:49
  a reserve. I think he was a reserve and then like he got able
• 29:52
  to get in because someone didn't play. Yeah, I think it might be
• 29:56
  tripping, but I feel like I see I feel like he played in the
• 30:00
  All Star Game, Like I can imagine it. You know what, let's
• 30:04
  not guess no more. I'm gonna just I'm gonna just look at it.
• 30:11
  Let me see. So, yeah, he was an injury replacement in twenty
• 30:18
  twenty two. Okay, I wasn't chripping. I wasn't chripping. Yeah,
• 30:22
  but who else was there on the twenty twenty two All Star Because it it
• 30:30
  also depends like what was somebody hurt? Yeah? Oh someone had to twenty
• 30:38
  twenty two. That was what the hawks. That was what the Hawks though.
• 30:45
  Let me see, did he make you out the Spurs? Am I
• 30:48
  chripping? I swear he made it with the Spurs? Yeah, because he
• 30:52
  made he made it with the Hawks. Let me see. Yeah, No,
• 31:00
  he replaced LaMelo Ball. So yeah, yeah, he replaced LaMelo Ball.
• 31:08
  So he was already on the Hawks already, So okay. But yeah,
• 31:15
  before we get off topic, is there is there anything else that you're
• 31:18
  gonna go over between this before we get into our contenders? Oh yeah,
• 31:23
  what popped out this week? Victor Winbinyamo five by five game. He almost
• 31:30
  did it, almost almost did two nights in a row. You know.
• 31:36
  Let me pull up his stats from the last five games. Twenty seven points,
• 31:40
  fourteen rebounds, ten blocks, five assists, two stills. Next game
• 31:42
  twenty six points, nine rebounds, five assists, three blocks. Next game
• 31:47
  nineteen points, thirteen rebounds, four assists, fire steals, fire blocks,
• 31:51
  Crazy, twenty seven points, ten rebounds, eight assists, five steals,
• 31:55
  five blocks, twenty two points, ten rebounds, to assists, five blocks,
• 31:59
  and then off game tonight eighteen points. I think thirteen rebounds in four
• 32:02
  blocks. Rookie of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year. No,
• 32:07
  you already know that's going to Rudy Gobert. There no. If Winby keeps
• 32:12
  averaging like four and a half blocks to end the season, I think he's
• 32:15
  gonna win the fiftive Player of the year. Okay, yeah, if if
• 32:19
  he averages four four and a half blocks, yeah, no, okay,
• 32:22
  I could see that, but I don't know. I feel like, well,
• 32:27
  I don't know. The way he's been getting blocks lately, it's it's
• 32:30
  ridiculous. But you know what made me saw the ones he did today.
• 32:32
  The one he did today, he just you like, turning around, he
• 32:38
  just put his hand up and grabbed it. Man. First off, PU
• 32:45
  but bro. But so what made me upset is that I was watching the
• 32:51
  Kings game. So I turned on the Kings game because I was watching another
• 32:55
  game. I forgot which one it was. I'm like, yeah, I'm
• 32:57
  gonna watch Wimby. You get a five by five game, and so I
• 33:00
  was like, all right, cool, first time since twenty nineteen, there's
• 33:04
  only been twenty three. I'm like, all right, all right, whatever,
• 33:07
  he didn't get it. That sucks. Literally, the next night,
• 33:09
  I had the Lakers in Kings game on and I was like, no,
• 33:13
  let me go to a better game. The next thing you know, it
• 33:15
  pops up Winby. He got a five by five or five by five.
• 33:20
  I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. I was literally a day late.
• 33:22
  So but it's cool. I'm pretty sure he's gonna be averaging five by
• 33:27
  fives. He did it against the Lakers, I think. No, yeah,
• 33:31
  that's what I was saying. I wasn't. I wasn't watching the Lakers
• 33:35
  in Spurs game. I was watching a better game. I don't Lakers and
• 33:38
  Kings. That's why I was like, oh, oh, I think he
• 33:42
  did it against the Lakers. Bro he shows up when he plays ad Bro,
• 33:45
  No, for real, he does. Man, if only eight,
• 33:51
  if only a D was better? Okay, where where does weinby rank?
• 33:59
  Already a centers honestly number one? Stop it stop it, be real,
• 34:05
  be real. I'm taking them over, Yogic. I'm taking them over,
• 34:07
  Yoic. No, you're not. No, you're not. You're not taking
• 34:09
  If if Wimby and Jokics they switched places, I promise you the Spurs they
• 34:15
  would have still be asked they'd have like thirteen wins done eleven. No,
• 34:21
  they would have. They would have at least at least twenty two at least
• 34:27
  okay, wow, still still playing for a top ten pig at that point.
• 34:31
  And if you put Wimby, if you put Wimby on the Nuggets,
• 34:35
  they're not as good. I promise you. You're right there better because he
• 34:39
  plays defense. Okay, Okay, if if Wimby was on the team last
• 34:45
  year for the Nuggets, just him and Jokis got replaced. Yeah, they
• 34:47
  were the championship. You're crazy, You're crazy. They don't close the season
• 34:52
  out eleven. They don't close the season out ten to one. They closed
• 34:53
  the playoffs out eleven. Oh, they don't lose that. You're crazy,
• 34:59
  man, You know well out. You may be early to the pub,
• 35:01
  but I think so. I think it's Jokic embiid. Okay, do you
• 35:08
  do you consider Giannis a center? Fine, Yokic embiid, Wimby, I'll
• 35:14
  go that right there. How about that. I'm not putting no one else
• 35:16
  above them? Wait, do you consider Yannis a center? I can say
• 35:22
  I'm like a power forward last center. I don't know, he just roams.
• 35:24
  I feel like he doesn't have a position. He plays point guard two
• 35:29
  because as of so, i'd have for sure Yokice embiid at home, grin,
• 35:37
  get out of here. Bro. So you you you already think that
• 35:44
  Wimby is better than a D Right now? I think fuck, Yeah,
• 35:49
  you're you're crazy. You're crazy. No, I'm not crazy. I've seen
• 35:52
  them twice. Oh my goodness. No, No, a D is better
• 35:59
  right now than when. Don't get me wrong, the way it's looking Wimby,
• 36:01
  he's playing like a top five a top five center right now. But
• 36:06
  no way in hell that he is better than a D right now, you're
• 36:08
  crazy. I think he's better than Anthony Davis right now, right now,
• 36:13
  he's better than Anthony Davis other than other than blocking, other than blocking shots,
• 36:16
  what does he do better than? Still, they're just as good.
• 36:22
  They're both good perimeter defenders. They're both good perimeter defenders. Who has a
• 36:28
  more offensive game? Stop it, stop, stop it? You already a
• 36:36
  better shooter. They could both put this better. Yes, he's a better
• 36:42
  shooter, and he has a range. I don't know who is the better
• 36:45
  offense player. They both bust each other's ass, they both they both score
• 36:50
  on each other pretty good. We've seen a D for I don't know how
• 36:54
  many years he's been in the league' I think eight nine years where he averages
• 36:59
  at least twenty five points a game. We've seen Wimby for what about maybe
• 37:06
  fifteen twenty games get over twenty or twenty five points. So, no,
• 37:12
  let's not go there. I'm not going there yet. Ad you can go
• 37:15
  there. You cannot go there. But I'm going there. I'm there.
• 37:19
  I'm like been there, like Mike since the moment he got drafted. I
• 37:22
  was already there. No, no, what, that's crazy, you know
• 37:28
  what? All right? No, all right? Who else would who else
• 37:34
  would be in consideration? No one? No one, No, there's no
• 37:37
  okay, this this may sound like a crazy question, but I still got
• 37:42
  to ask this. De Mantas Sabonis because he's been an All Star. Wybe
• 37:46
  wasn't an All star. This his off His defense is so trash, Like
• 37:52
  I think his defense is so bad that I can't even consider him like in
• 37:55
  the same as strataspere as those four I'm trying to think they're is bam at
• 38:00
  a baio. I'm just listing guys right now. I'm just trying to list
• 38:04
  guys too inconsistent. What about no Jared Allen Christops, he's a five.
• 38:10
  No, I would consider winby better. Karl Anthony Towns, He's got a
• 38:15
  damn good offensive. We've been waiting for cats to do things. We've been
• 38:21
  waiting for catch to do things that win. Binyama can do it is,
• 38:28
  but Kat's offensive game. I feel like that's that's a wash right there.
• 38:31
  I could see both being argued. Cat's never been in consideration. Okay,
• 38:37
  Cat's never been in consideration for defensive Player of the Year, and Winby is.
• 38:42
  So I'm just saying, all right, well, you know, you
• 38:45
  know what, I'm not gonna argue. I'll I'll let you have it,
• 38:49
  but all right, let's go to get into our top five. I will
• 38:52
  okay, I'll put a D above him. I'll put a D, I'll
• 38:54
  put I'll put embiid, I put embid a D than Wimby right now.
• 39:00
  But next season it's over like he's number one in the entire NBA. Okay,
• 39:06
  So just a so just a quick quick prediction. So, so,
• 39:12
  since Wimby is doing this, what is Winby averaging next year? Don't don't
• 39:15
  think about roster construction next year? What is Winby averaging next year? Twenty
• 39:22
  six? Uh, twenty six or twenty seven, thirteen thirteen? What rebounds
• 39:32
  thirteen or fourteen rebounds a game? That's crazy? And in blocks, I
• 39:37
  think he's gonna get like four three point nine, three point eight blocks per
• 39:43
  game. He's already like three point two right now, So I don't know,
• 39:45
  that's not that I feel like that's not crazy. Yeah, I could
• 39:49
  see the blocks. Yeah, assist. I think his assist total goes a
• 39:53
  little bit more up. I think he'll get like four or five a game.
• 39:58
  He already is at four game, so it's like five or six.
• 40:00
  I don't know, he's gonna be pretty cold next year. I think his
• 40:02
  offense is gonna be I think a whole season and then like and like he
• 40:07
  figures out how to play in the NBA and then like developing some skills.
• 40:10
  I think he's gonna his offensive game is gonna be a lot different next year
• 40:15
  and more comfortable because I feel like some he rushes his shot a lot right
• 40:17
  now, mm hmm, and he's he's not aggressive enough. That's that's the
• 40:22
  thing about it. No, he's not like when he gets angry. He's
• 40:27
  pretty like like he plays pretty good, but then sometimes he just like looks
• 40:31
  for the open guy way too much, and we just don't have knockdown shooters
• 40:35
  to be doing that. Like, bro, just be selfish. I don't
• 40:37
  care how many shots you take. Just pull them every single one. You
• 40:39
  want him to get thirty thirty five shots a game, be doing some t
• 40:44
  maxtuff, do it, do it, but we're not here to watch.
• 40:51
  Like, honestly, at this point of the season, we don't care.
• 40:53
  I only hope he shoots in the game. I'm not gonna I don't care
• 40:55
  if anyone else shoots in the game. I don't blame you, honestly.
• 41:00
  But all right, let's go ahead and get into our top five contenders here.
• 41:05
  So as of right now, we made a top five list teams that
• 41:09
  could win a championship. So do you have any honorable mention that you could
• 41:14
  just think of right now? The San Antonio Spurs, the Milwaukee Bucks,
• 41:22
  they didn't make my top five. They didn't make the top five anybody else
• 41:27
  in mind? Dallas Mavericks. I feel like I'll put the Mavericks in my
• 41:30
  honorable mention. So then so I have my honorable mention that I have the
• 41:37
  Mavericks as well six, and then I have the Timberwolves seven. So oh
• 41:43
  wow, we're not thinking totally different on the timber Wolves. And I'll explain
• 41:46
  that in a little bit. But all right, let's go in and start
• 41:50
  from five. We'll go from We'll go from five to one, and you
• 41:52
  go first. Who is who is the fifth rated contender in your opinion,
• 42:00
  I'm gonna have to go with the Oklahoma Cities of the Thunders Rob Seattle,
• 42:07
  but okay, they have s g A. I said that earlier. He's
• 42:13
  arguably this year the best point guard, best guard in the entire NBA,
• 42:17
  arguably the best player in the NBA this season, and he controls everything from
• 42:22
  beyond both sides of the court. He leads the NBA and steals per game.
• 42:25
  And then he's a good facilitator, scorer, anything you need on offense,
• 42:30
  he can do it all. But then, plus as much as I
• 42:32
  hate him Chet holme Gren, I don't hate Chet Holmgren. I just dislike
• 42:37
  Chet holme Gren because of certain comparisons that make no sense. But Chet home
• 42:43
  Gren, yeah, honestly, but uh, Chet Holmgren, he really does
• 42:49
  help him out Defensively, I guess I'm down playing everything he does. Yeah,
• 42:57
  he's good offensively, I'll give him that. He creates a lot of
• 43:00
  base because a lot of teams are worried about what he can do inside,
• 43:01
  and he can also branch out and shoot, and then they have great spacing.
• 43:07
  They play five out the entire game. So there's constantly always movement.
• 43:10
  They're constantly pick and rolls, screens, and they're a knockdown shooting team.
• 43:15
  They're the most efficient three point shooting team in the NBA, like I said
• 43:19
  earlier, number one in the entire NBA, and then the number one team
• 43:22
  in transition points and transition efficiency. So the thing is that hurts this team
• 43:28
  is rebounds. They are like terrible at getting rebounds. They are number twenty
• 43:31
  eighth and they are twenty eighth offensively in rebounds and twenty ninth defensively in rebounds.
• 43:37
  But the thing is the once if they can come down with a couple
• 43:42
  more boards, they'll be pretty scary. But the thing is they play so
• 43:45
  much five out on offense. The offensive rebounds I don't see them going up,
• 43:49
  but defensively they can do a lot of work. And then with that
• 43:51
  being said, rebounds, which I don't understand how their number one transition team
• 43:54
  in the NBA they don't get a lot of rebounds, but I guess they
• 43:58
  run the court so fast because they're so a lot they run the They run
• 44:01
  the court pretty well because they're a young team. But if they can get
• 44:07
  rebounds up, it's going to be pretty scary for a lot of teams going
• 44:09
  into the going into the playoffs. So yeah, that's why I have the
• 44:14
  thunder number five. So number five for me, it's the Milwaukee Bucks here
• 44:20
  and Spurs. Bro Spurs got snubbed. But yeah, the big the biggest
• 44:27
  reason for me is, like I mentioned earlier, the dynamic duo of Giannis
• 44:31
  and Dame, that one two punch you could arguably say they have two top
• 44:37
  ten players in the league. I'm not saying Dame it is for sure a
• 44:39
  top ten player this year, but you could argue that. And that's the
• 44:44
  firepower you need in the playoffs. Sometimes your actions aren't working, your coverages
• 44:49
  aren't working. Sometimes you just have to depend on do we have superstar players
• 44:53
  who can get it done. And against the Timberwolves, that really proved a
• 44:58
  lot to me. It really proved a lot as far as just a gritty,
• 45:01
  gritty team and like we preach the entire last podcast, as far as
• 45:06
  the Timberwolves, they're the best defense in the league and they got they got
• 45:10
  buckets, and I think the biggest thing because they're not as good defensively because
• 45:16
  Drew Holiday. That was a big loss. But I think one thing that
• 45:20
  they could help with is as far as or that could help with the bad
• 45:23
  perimeter defense, is their interior defense. You still have Brook Lopez, you
• 45:28
  still have Bobby Portis, you still have Giannis, So you play into your
• 45:31
  strengths. And one thing I saw against the Timberwolves is that, and they're
• 45:37
  gonna try to do against different teams. They're gonna probably try to do it
• 45:40
  against teams who like to jump shoot or shoot shoot a bunch of mid range
• 45:45
  shots or three pointers, like the Celtics. You even have the Cavaliers they
• 45:49
  do that as well, the Heat they do that as well, even the
• 45:52
  Knicks, So it matches up pretty well. And just make them shoot those
• 45:58
  tough jump shots and don't let them get any easy buckets, and you could
• 46:01
  win the ball games you can. And I think this offense is about to
• 46:06
  pick up. We're about to see a different Bucks team here, and that's
• 46:08
  why they're my fifth rated team. So, Josh, who's your fourth rated
• 46:12
  team here? Another another team I hate with the player that I hate to
• 46:17
  go with, the Los Angeles Clippers because I hate Kawhi Leonard for life,
• 46:22
  but they have high level perimeter defense. I'm gonna start with that, they
• 46:28
  have Paul George Kawhi Leonard and Russell Westbrook who are always in the top of
• 46:34
  the top when it comes to perimeter defense and getting stills and shutting down opposing
• 46:37
  teams players. And they have their like I said earlier, the most efficient
• 46:44
  team when it comes to ISO scoring. So what that means they are number
• 46:47
  one team in isolation. I think number number one team in points and efficiency
• 46:52
  and how and the number two in frequency and how often they they do their
• 46:57
  ISOs. But the thing is when it comes to playoff basketball and teams are
• 47:01
  sluggish and playing their hardest, that's when isolation basketball kind of takes over.
• 47:06
  Because when teams are tired, you still have those guys that can get buckets
• 47:08
  no matter what. And if there's one team that has players that can get
• 47:10
  buckets, it's gonna be the Los Angeles Clippers. They got they got Russell
• 47:15
  Westbrook, who if your guy is tired, he's not gonna be tired.
• 47:19
  He's gonna blow past you. They got James Harden. Arguably, arguably,
• 47:23
  I'm not gonna see he and say it's the greatest scorer of all time.
• 47:25
  People people will say that, like he I said, arguably, I'm not
• 47:30
  gonna say I don't. I don't think he is with people I'm thinking,
• 47:31
  I'm thinking, I'm just thinking, go ahead, he's up there. He's
• 47:35
  up there. Though you can't even lie James Harden up there in his prime,
• 47:38
  James Harden's up there. Yeah, so if you and then he But
• 47:44
  the thing that separates James Harden is that he's he's been able to He's always
• 47:49
  been a great passer, but this year, but the last over the last
• 47:51
  two in the seasons, playing with Joel Embiid and then playing with these other
• 47:54
  stars, he's he's become great at moving the ball around and creating shots for
• 47:59
  others. And then Russell Westbrook is always going to do the do what Russell
• 48:01
  Westbrook does. And then the thing that limits his team the most is the
• 48:07
  injuries. The injuries limits do team like drastically, because when Kawhi and PG
• 48:14
  are on the court, you have some of the best defenders in the NBA.
• 48:16
  You have players that can create their own shot, they can come off
• 48:21
  pick and rolls, they can run around, create their own they can off
• 48:24
  ball. Their their off ball player is pretty good. But if they're not
• 48:28
  on the court, none of this matters, and none of it matters.
• 48:30
  And another reason why I don't think that they could possibly win the championship is
• 48:32
  rim protection. They have no interior rim protection as of this moment. So
• 48:38
  that those are those are the reasons why and why I don't think that they
• 48:42
  can win the championship. But they're still in my top five, they're number
• 48:44
  four, So I'm gonna have to agree with you right here. I have
• 48:49
  the clippers here for But before I get on to that point, so you
• 48:53
  said perimeter scores, right, perimeter scores all time? Right, So the
• 48:59
  only ones that I could put above him is Kobe Jordan Kobe, yeah,
• 49:04
  Kobe, k D and Jordan Manu. But honestly, well did you hear
• 49:09
  that one? No? No, no, no, I didn't. What
• 49:13
  did you say? I said, Manu? Oh yeah, hell yeah,
• 49:15
  Manu hell yeah No. But MJ he was more of a mid range.
• 49:20
  He wasn't a perimeter score. M So but are we say for James Harden?
• 49:31
  Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so perimeter score, I don't I
• 49:37
  don't know he he is up there. But all right, all right,
• 49:40
  we get debated about that a little bit later. I just wanted to I
• 49:44
  just wanted to tell you that. So I'm not saying he's the best,
• 49:46
  like best. I just think he's one of the best scorers of all time.
• 49:50
  I just that's why they say he's arguably because you can sit here and
• 49:52
  argue that James Harden at one point in his career is probably the best scorer
• 49:55
  of all time because what he was doing with the rockets, it it was
• 50:00
  pretty insane if you really look at he's a choke artist. Don't get me
• 50:02
  wrong, that's gonna be his biggest like de rail of his career. But
• 50:07
  regular season James Harden was just different. Yeah, No, he was different.
• 50:10
  I was he literally draw got to the free throw line like thirteen times
• 50:17
  a night. Bro Like, yeah, because he was, like I don't
• 50:22
  know, like he was just different. I saw something. It's a it
• 50:25
  showed something of James Harden. He had like a fifty three point triple double,
• 50:29
  like sixteen assists, sixteen rebounds. It was it was something different.
• 50:32
  But all right, before we get even more off topic, Yeah, no,
• 50:35
  I have the clippers for and you're right about the injuries. You pretty
• 50:38
  much explained everything. And I think the biggest reason why I have him this
• 50:43
  high is, like you said, perimeter defense and Kawhi Leonard. He has
• 50:46
  proved that he could lead a team to a championship. And people that are
• 50:51
  always wondering, oh, well, James Harden as far as he chokes in
• 50:54
  the playoffs, which it is true, but he's always been the number one
• 50:59
  or number two options on this team. Right here, he's probably the third
• 51:02
  option. And having James Harden as your third option is pretty damn good.
• 51:08
  And I don't know if they're gonna use PJ. Tucker. I know PJ
• 51:12
  Tucker. He finally started to get I'm not okay, I'm I'm gonna go
• 51:20
  ahead and say that Russell Westbrook, the reason why he doesn't do good in
• 51:23
  the playoffs is because his half court offense sucks. It sucks, and that's
• 51:29
  that's why it doesn't pan out. And in the regular season it's perfectly fine.
• 51:32
  You could you could run a fourth option, yeah, and he could
• 51:37
  run the bench. But I'm just saying, like, as far as by
• 51:39
  himself, that's why he didn't get much done. But no, then obviously
• 51:45
  injuries that's a problem. But as far as if Eva Zubac, I hopefully
• 51:52
  I didn't butcher his name the center. That's how you say Avica Avica Zuba.
• 51:59
  Well, anyway, I think he's a he's a good matchup. I
• 52:04
  think he's a good matchup against Jokic, who's the other center, and and
• 52:08
  they're obviously Jokic. He's gonna get his I'm not saying, oh, he's
• 52:10
  a Jokic stopper, but if he goes down, who's really going to be
• 52:15
  your center here? And if you go to a uh, we're not going
• 52:23
  to go there. No. And then if you go with the small ball
• 52:27
  lineup, if you go with the small small ball lineup, you're really not
• 52:32
  gonna be able to match with any other teams in the West here. Really,
• 52:37
  and that's just the biggest thing. But they definitely do have the firepower
• 52:39
  to get things done. That's what matches with my four and five. They
• 52:43
  both have the firepower. Can they just execute on it. But all right,
• 52:49
  now that we're getting to the top three here, Josh, who's your
• 52:52
  third rated team or third contender. I'm gonna get a lot of hate for
• 52:54
  this. I don't believe in them. The Boston Celtics are my her team,
• 53:00
  my third team on my contender list, and here's why they will win
• 53:05
  the championship. They're the most complete team in basketball. From whoa, whoa,
• 53:08
  whoa. You're saying they're winning the championship. No, no, because
• 53:12
  they're continer. So I'm giving why they will win the championship. Like,
• 53:15
  Okay, I'm not saying they're gonna win the championship, but why they will
• 53:20
  win the championship? If they do that, they're the most complete team in
• 53:23
  basketball from top to bottom. They're are the number one team efficiency offensively,
• 53:30
  number three team defensively efficiency. Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown they're a great one
• 53:36
  too combo. But then plus adding Christophe Perzingis and Al Horford to the mix,
• 53:39
  it helps them in on the interior quite a bit. And then they
• 53:45
  got they got a couple. They got a great shooters around these guys that
• 53:47
  can knock down shots, but they need to attack the rim. Uh.
• 53:57
  Forty seven shots are from three. They shoot the most three pointers in the
• 54:01
  NBA. And that's literally almost half your shots are from the three point area.
• 54:07
  That is insane. I don't know how you win this many basketball games
• 54:09
  living by the three, but they're doing it. But then the thing is,
• 54:15
  they need rim protection. The only reason I say they need rim protection
• 54:17
  is because Christaps Ferzingis and Al Horford tend to get injured quite a bit.
• 54:22
  And if these guys go down, who's who's guarding the interior? You know,
• 54:25
  they don't have Robert Williams no more. And then and then I don't
• 54:31
  I don't find Jalen Jalen Brown is a great defender, but I don't find
• 54:35
  Jason Hittim to be a great defender. So the defense is really gonna lack
• 54:38
  if these two guys go down, and christolphs Perzingis in his own right,
• 54:42
  isn't that great of a defender. So it's it's kind of like, if
• 54:45
  these guys go down there, I think their defense is kind of screwed when
• 54:47
  it comes to being on the inside. So I'm gonna have to agree with
• 54:52
  you again right here, I have the Celtics number three and so so I'm
• 55:01
  not gonna reveal my number two team yet. But like I mentioned earlier,
• 55:07
  as far as them not being able to generate easy buckets, they live and
• 55:12
  die. They live and die by the three, like you said, forty
• 55:15
  three percent of the time. And and I know there's a stat as far
• 55:20
  as oh well, they have the most post ups in the league, but
• 55:22
  they only have seven attempts at the rim per game. And the reason why
• 55:28
  it works so well is because they're one of the best shooting teams in the
• 55:31
  league, of course, but in the playoffs where you're where it's really pressure
• 55:37
  tight situations and sometimes you just need an easy bucket, you need a layup
• 55:42
  just to get you going, and they can't do that. And we saw
• 55:46
  that last year against the Heat, we saw that against the Warriors a year
• 55:51
  before. It's just again, I'm not disagreeing with you here. They have
• 55:55
  all the tools, they have the duo here, they I think Joe Mizzoli
• 56:00
  he is even capable enough to get them to the championship and win the championship.
• 56:04
  It's just if you're gonna be a jump shot dependent team, then there's
• 56:09
  gonna be a bunch of knights where you'll you'll be on fire. But whenever
• 56:14
  there's those cold nights and kind of like what happened in Miami, when there's
• 56:17
  a cold stretch, you're gonna be screwed. There's no turning back. You
• 56:22
  can't you can't just flip the switch. So yeah, I still have the
• 56:27
  Celtics here three and this is just really nitpicking here, honestly, because they're
• 56:32
  they're just so talented everywhere and they have all the pieces. Yeah, yeah,
• 56:37
  no question with all these teams is just nitpicking. It's just really nit
• 56:42
  picking, like what's wrong with them? And when we have to nitpick what's
• 56:45
  wrong with these teams to separate them from other teams. But it's like,
• 56:50
  if they're at this point, if they're in the top five contenders, all
• 56:52
  these teams, if they win the championship, no one's gonna be surprised.
• 56:55
  No one's gonna be surprised. It's just a matter can they put it together?
• 57:00
  Yeah, exactly. So, all right, who's your number two rated
• 57:04
  team here? The Minnesota Timberwolves are my number two team. I don't know
• 57:09
  why I'm so big on the Timberwolves. I don't know why. I get
• 57:14
  I was gonna put the Spurs right here, but I didn't. Sorry,
• 57:16
  guys, you know, but they're the number one defense in the entire NBA.
• 57:21
  And what if people say defense wins championship. I understand it's different from
• 57:25
  NFL to NBA. NBA, good offense is always gonna be better defense.
• 57:30
  But the thing is, I don't know that Anthony Edwards on the perimeter,
• 57:36
  and then you have Rudy Gobert and Cat on the interior. It gets pretty
• 57:38
  hard for some teams, especially when the when both the big men are pretty
• 57:44
  are good defenders in a Cat being a good defender, but Grudy Gobart being
• 57:47
  a great defender, and then on offense, on offense, Anthony Edwards is
• 57:54
  dug. I'm just gonna put it out there. Anthony Edwards can create a
• 57:58
  lot. He's a lot. The offense is honed in on, the defense
• 58:00
  is honed in on him, and it creates a lot, a lot of
• 58:04
  opportunities for other players on the team. The thing is why I don't think
• 58:07
  they win. They kind of they're kind of inefficient when it comes to scoring
• 58:09
  in the clutch, so they give up quite a few leads. And then
• 58:15
  they didn't limit the turnovers. They're twenty ninth in the NBA when it comes
• 58:17
  to turning over the basketball, and they really need to turn that down.
• 58:22
  They really need to bring those numbers all pretty down because if they turn over
• 58:27
  the ball, they're not gonna win games in the playoffs. So before I
• 58:31
  get into my number two rated team, I just want to give give a
• 58:35
  rebuttal on why I don't think the Wolves. They're up there, like,
• 58:38
  trust me, I could see them making a deep playoff run, But as
• 58:43
  far as winning the championship, and you kind of mentioned it a little bit,
• 58:46
  their half court offense is terrible. It's terrible. And I just don't
• 58:52
  think Anthony Edwards he's at that stardom yet where he's a top ten player and
• 58:57
  you could just say, get out the way, game the ball, and
• 59:00
  he's gonna get you a bucket. He could. I think in spurts he
• 59:02
  could carry you and he could have a forty or fifty point game, which
• 59:07
  we've seen, but I don't think it could happen for sixteen games in the
• 59:12
  playoffs or sixteen wins, which you need to win a championship. I just
• 59:15
  don't think that he's at that level yet. But I think I just sorry,
• 59:21
  but I think this year with the trade, it kind of looked like
• 59:23
  a failure with Rudy Gobert. But this year, I feel like he's making
• 59:25
  up for it a lot, like he's doing a lot better this year,
• 59:28
  especially in the system. He looks a lot more comfortable and I get his
• 59:30
  offensive game. That's what we're talking about but when it comes to defense,
• 59:34
  he's been playing really well in the system. Yeah, and you kind of
• 59:38
  mentioned a point right there. So we saw with the Jazz two a couple
• 59:43
  of years when he won Defensive Player of the Year, we saw they had
• 59:45
  some of the best defenses in the league. But when it came to the
• 59:49
  playoffs and they ran five out, then Rudy Gobert he became an He've a
• 59:54
  game just just nothing, nothing. I couldn't think of nothing because that's what
• 1:00:00
  he was. Nothing and he got exposed. And maybe if he had an
• 1:00:06
  offensive game then you would be able to compliment that it wouldn't be as bad.
• 1:00:10
  But you're not punishing any of these guys whenever they go a small ball
• 1:00:15
  lineup. So I think that's going to be their biggest weakness right there.
• 1:00:19
  They have the primitive defenders. They have Jaden Jaden McDaniels. I couldn't think
• 1:00:23
  of his name for a second. Anthony Anthony Edwards. He's a willing defender.
• 1:00:28
  He's not great, but he's a good defender. Mike Conley, he's
• 1:00:30
  a smart veteran. I just think that in order for them to make a
• 1:00:35
  deep playoff, frount it sounds crazy, but Mike Conley, he's going to
• 1:00:37
  have to have the ball more because he may or he's a smart decision maker,
• 1:00:43
  and with Karl Anthony Towns and Anthony Edwards sometimes being too wild offensively,
• 1:00:49
  he's just a guy that could just slow the pace down and just get them
• 1:00:52
  into their actions and do what they have to do. But I don't think
• 1:00:55
  that's gonna happen. Obviously, Anthony Edwards and Karl Anthony Towns are better,
• 1:01:00
  so they're gonna have the ball mart and I think that's going to kind of
• 1:01:01
  be where the weakness is, unless, say, just find a way to
• 1:01:05
  flip the switch offensively, which I don't know anything could happen. But all
• 1:01:09
  right, as far as from my number two rated team here, I think
• 1:01:15
  I'm too high on them too. You're too high on the Wolves. I
• 1:01:17
  think I'm too high on the Oklahoma City Thunder here. And the reason why
• 1:01:22
  I have the Thunder number two is that you talk about we talked about with
• 1:01:28
  the Celtics. They have everything that fits the Thunder. They have everything just
• 1:01:34
  as well too. You have a top ten player and Shae Shaye giogis Alexander
• 1:01:39
  who's potential MVP he does it on both sides of the floor. And I
• 1:01:44
  think what it is is that defensively, they have different guys that could guard
• 1:01:51
  different architects. As far as you have lou Dort, you have Shae who
• 1:01:55
  could guard the smaller perimeter guys as far as May you're gonna face a Jamal
• 1:02:00
  Murray, Anthony Edwards, somebody like that in the playoffs, a James Harden
• 1:02:06
  or Devin Booker. Then you have longer defender defenders that both of the Jalen
• 1:02:12
  Williams. Then you have lou Dort who could also do that as well,
• 1:02:15
  and then you have rim protection. You have Chet Holmgren there. And again,
• 1:02:22
  I know they're kind of similar to the Celtics as far as they shoot
• 1:02:24
  a lot of threes, but they can get the easy buckets. Shane knows
• 1:02:29
  how to get get to the free throw line. He knows how to get
• 1:02:31
  the easy baskets. And that's just the biggest difference here and the team that
• 1:02:37
  I have ahead here. I think we both have the same team, which
• 1:02:40
  is the Denver Nuggets, who they're gonna be playing in the playoffs. It
• 1:02:45
  was kind of expected, but I'm gonna say this, There're three and one
• 1:02:52
  against the Nuggets in the regular season. I know it's regular season, but
• 1:02:55
  again, they're still they still played each other. So the reason why I
• 1:03:00
  have the Thunder number two is because I believe that they're the biggest threat to
• 1:03:05
  the Denver Nuggets. So I have go ahead, Oh, I have the
• 1:03:10
  Nuggets number one. Okay, surprised, alright, sorry, guys. The
• 1:03:17
  thing is they got the best player in the world, Nikola Jokic, and
• 1:03:22
  then they have a great supporting cast. I won't put it out there.
• 1:03:25
  So if yo, if everyone around Yokic plays all right and Jogic plays great,
• 1:03:31
  they're probably gonna win the game. But the thing that comes down the
• 1:03:34
  most is one key injury. One key injury to this team is Jamal Murray.
• 1:03:39
  If Jamal Murray is healthy in the playoffs, they win games. Because
• 1:03:43
  Jamal Murray in the playoffs is a different guy. He's a different guy like
• 1:03:47
  I get in the in the regular season, he's all right, like he's
• 1:03:51
  no, he's not alright. He's a good player. He's a good player,
• 1:03:53
  great player. But when it comes to the playoff, Jamal Murray,
• 1:03:58
  we've seen it in the Oh, shoot, I think you're cut out for
• 1:04:02
  a sect oh no, wait, let's let's see the new recording track created.
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  least uploading a little bit? Yeah, it's uploading nine nine percent? Okay,
• 1:04:25
  yea, yeah, we're good. We're not gonna have a situation that
• 1:04:27
  we had like last week. All right, cool, bro. I don't
• 1:04:30
  know why my theme comes so undone, Like why it comes so undone,
• 1:04:33
  like when I freaking hit the Terrible, I can't hit the Terrible because you're
• 1:04:36
  too aggressive. I'm opening this chair right, I'm opening this table right here,
• 1:04:42
  starting hit it. But what's it called if Jamal Murray? Jamal Murray
• 1:04:49
  in the playoffs is a different guy. He he's arguably, I'm not gonna
• 1:04:55
  stay up there with yok, but he's right underneath. When it comes playing
• 1:04:57
  in the playoffs, he can when they need a big shot, he knocks
• 1:05:00
  down the big shots. And then plus this year, they have taken a
• 1:05:03
  step back when it comes to three point shooting, just slightly where it kind
• 1:05:08
  of seems a different. Yeah, Michael Porter Junior and Aaron Gordon, even
• 1:05:11
  Jamal Murray aren't as efficient as they usually are. I don't know if that's
• 1:05:15
  up to fatigue. If they're just waiting, I don't know what's going on,
• 1:05:18
  but it just seems like they're just not knocking down shots they used to
• 1:05:21
  knock down consistently. But the thing is, if this team's on, if
• 1:05:27
  the Denver Nuggets are playing at high level basketball all together, they're probably the
• 1:05:31
  hardest team in the NBA to beat. Yeah, And obviously, like like
• 1:05:36
  I mentioned, I agree with you, and I think out of this All
• 1:05:40
  Star Break it really showed that the Denver Nuggets they were kind of sleepwalking through
• 1:05:45
  the first first half of the regular season, and they still won thirty six
• 1:05:48
  games. But just these two games or these three games, they scored one
• 1:05:54
  thirty against the Wizards, one twenty seven against the Trailblazers, one to nineteen
• 1:05:58
  against the Warriors. So whenever they have to fire on all cylinders, they
• 1:06:03
  will, And they may not have the star power. As far as different
• 1:06:06
  names, they have mostly Nicola Jokic. Most people they're gonna just know Nicola
• 1:06:12
  Jokic. Some people may not know Jamal Murray, Contavious Caldwell, Pope,
• 1:06:15
  Aaron Gordon, or Michael Porter Junior. But they all compliment each other so
• 1:06:20
  well that there's no weakness offensively and defensively. And I could say this very
• 1:06:26
  confidently that their half court offense and their half court defense is the best in
• 1:06:30
  the league. Whenever it does matter, whenever they have to get a bucket
• 1:06:34
  or get a stop, they will. There's no weaknesses. But like you
• 1:06:39
  said, if one injury happens, you have to put one of your role
• 1:06:44
  or one of your bench players in the starting lineup. That's where it could
• 1:06:46
  be an issue. But other than that, if they're healthy, honestly,
• 1:06:51
  you could just give them the championship. I think it'll be that easy.
• 1:06:55
  I don't care who it is from the West or who it is from the
• 1:06:59
  East. They're gonna win the championship. I think it's just that simple.
• 1:07:02
  But so, out of these top five teams right here, who do you
• 1:07:10
  think is most likely to slide out of this top five due to like a
• 1:07:15
  bad stretch or who do you think is more likely to play bad basketball down
• 1:07:18
  the stretch here? As much as I hate to say how high are on
• 1:07:24
  them, it would be the Minnesota Timberwolves. I think they're the most likely
• 1:07:28
  team to go on a bad stretch, just for a lot of reasons.
• 1:07:31
  You said but it's also I doubt that they do it. I think they've
• 1:07:34
  shown this year why they've won forty one games already up to this point.
• 1:07:39
  But yeah, it'd probably be the Timberwolves for me who would be the most
• 1:07:44
  likely to go on a bad stretch. So out of my top five teams,
• 1:07:50
  I would honestly say, I'm really confident in the Bucks, Celtics,
• 1:07:56
  Thunder. I would have to say the Clippers here, and I was gonna
• 1:08:00
  go with them also, but the only thing that would deraid them for me
• 1:08:03
  is injury. I think Clippers they're cursed. Yeah, that's true. They
• 1:08:10
  Yeah, they still haven't made the Western Conference finals ever, right, mm
• 1:08:14
  hmm, yeah, so that may stand true, But no, I think,
• 1:08:18
  like you said, they're held. I think out of these five teams,
• 1:08:21
  they all have injury concerns, but or other than the Thunder really because
• 1:08:26
  they're the youngest team in the league. But with Timberwolves don't really have injury
• 1:08:30
  concerns. Mm hmm. Yeah, that's true, but or just everybody in
• 1:08:34
  the league entirely. I think the Clippers are definitely up there, and so
• 1:08:39
  it wouldn't be a surprise if one of their four guys They're four main guys.
• 1:08:44
  They happen to go down and say, oh, what a shock of
• 1:08:46
  this happen? It won't be because they get hurt too often. But I
• 1:08:53
  know we had some honorable mentions here. Who do you think can rise into
• 1:08:57
  the top five here out of your list, because obviously I know we have
• 1:09:05
  some different teams on our list. I would go with the Milwaukee Bucks.
• 1:09:13
  The Milwaukee Bucks were literally I scratched them out for one of these teams.
• 1:09:16
  So I'll put the Milwaukee Bucks right there. They still have you, honest,
• 1:09:18
  they have Damian Lillary. That these two can get going, or they
• 1:09:24
  already are getting going. But I mean, if they can figure it out
• 1:09:26
  defensively a little bit better, because this is probably one of the worst years
• 1:09:29
  that they've had defensively with the honest, So if they can figure some things
• 1:09:32
  out, this team could easily move into the top five. For me,
• 1:09:36
  So call me crazy here, but I honestly think the Dallas Mavericks they could
• 1:09:41
  rise in who sings that song? I forgot who sings that song? See
• 1:09:49
  low Grain, Oh okay, that's who it is. But yeah, I
• 1:09:55
  think the Dallas Mavericks they could rise up. And I think that's mostly because
• 1:10:00
  Luca and Kyrie Irving and how they're able to play defense. Now, So
• 1:10:03
  I know that they're as of right now the eight seed, but there's not
• 1:10:08
  much There's four games that separated them from the four seeds, so anything can
• 1:10:13
  happen. And I really think that they're going to rise up in the rankings
• 1:10:16
  in the Western Conference, so I wouldn't be surprised in a couple of weeks.
• 1:10:20
  I'm over here saying the Dallas Mavericks have a real shot of being a
• 1:10:26
  contender. But anything else you want to talk about before we get into our
• 1:10:30
  next topic. Now we're gooot you mine, move on. Well, all
• 1:10:34
  right, let's go and get into it. So last last week it was
• 1:10:40
  kind of a done deal. We already know who won the fantasy draft.
• 1:10:44
  Last last week it was Yeah, it was It was pretty self explanatory.
• 1:10:48
  But I'm getting redemption this week, so again they're having a fantasy draft.
• 1:10:53
  It makes me like thirty one no no, no, no no from Okay
• 1:10:59
  Bo was a last one we did for the NFL. It was players who
• 1:11:02
  have wonner ring. Yeah, players who have won a ring. It was
• 1:11:06
  definitely me Bro. It was definitely mean from from the people that I talked
• 1:11:12
  to, they they said it was so it was like six people, it
• 1:11:16
  was. It was pretty split. So I think it was three three yeah,
• 1:11:21
  from the people that I talked to. So as far as it was
• 1:11:27
  definitely they just didn't want to hurt your feelings, you know, yeah,
• 1:11:30
  yeah, whatever, it was definitely me. Yeah, yeah, whatever.
• 1:11:32
  But all right, let's go and do this draft. So the criteria for
• 1:11:36
  this draft is a number one overall pick. They had to be a number
• 1:11:41
  one overall pick. It could date back all the way to nineteen forty four.
• 1:11:45
  I think that's when the NBA started, all the way to right now
• 1:11:48
  twenty twenty four. So so yeah, I don't or we'll let Siri decide
• 1:11:58
  this. So did you want to be heads or tells oh Man, be
• 1:12:04
  careful I answer that question. I know I was gonna I was gonna say
• 1:12:09
  something why, Like I was gonna say something outlanders, But I was like,
• 1:12:13
  nah, wait what it tells me? Okay, hey, flip a
• 1:12:21
  coin? Why isn't working? Flip a coin? It's tell us. I
• 1:12:36
  don't know if you can see it. So Tim duncan give me Tim duncan
• 1:12:41
  wait for real? Uh, you thought I was gonna go anywhere else with
• 1:12:45
  this pick? You really thought I was gonna go anywhere else with this pic?
• 1:12:49
  Wait, I don't care who's on the table. Oh no, scratch
• 1:12:53
  that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:12:54
  no, no, no. You know you picked, you picked Tim
• 1:12:58
  Duncan. Crap. I fucked up, guys, and fucked up. Wait,
• 1:13:05
  so you're gonna are you gonna put him as your four? I got
• 1:13:09
  Tim Duncan, I got. You're gonna put him as your four? Or
• 1:13:11
  five? Yeah? Four? Four? He's my four? Okay, Well
• 1:13:15
  I didn't think he would get to me. But give me, give me
• 1:13:16
  bron bron at my bron at my three lebron in twenty fourteen, you get
• 1:13:25
  twenty fourteen cramp lebron bro. Oh how about you? No, I'm not
• 1:13:30
  mad at it because you know who has the record in the playoff in the
• 1:13:33
  championships again each other, Tim Duncan. He's two and one and he swept
• 1:13:38
  him one time, and he's four and one another time. So I'm comfortable
• 1:13:42
  with this pick right here. You know, the first time that was a
• 1:13:45
  clear no, no, that was a clear don't give me that name.
• 1:13:49
  Name any other player on on the Cavs in two thousand and seven, other
• 1:13:54
  than Lebron James Williams okay, galskaz okay, okay, okay, okay Anderson
• 1:14:01
  J. David West. No, David, I'm just saying I named three
• 1:14:10
  people. Okay, okay, fair, Okay, Fine, I'll give you
• 1:14:13
  that. I'll give you that was it track on that team? Stop it,
• 1:14:16
  stop it, stop it. He was, Yes, he was,
• 1:14:20
  he was, but it's not it's not say Mosha quit playing. Okay,
• 1:14:26
  So saying he had help you get a bald guy? What could you get?
• 1:14:30
  Bro? Stop it? All right? You asked, you asked,
• 1:14:35
  But all right, who's your who's your second pick? You ain't ready for
• 1:14:42
  my next pick? I hope you. I hope you either. I hope
• 1:14:46
  you. I'm ready. I made sure I wrote everything Magic Johnson, Bro,
• 1:14:55
  Magic Johnson. I won't be fucking wild. I'm not gonna be a
• 1:14:58
  wild guy. I'm not gonna be a silly goose. And this one,
• 1:15:01
  so you're putting them at your one obviously here right, No, as my
• 1:15:04
  set as my sixth man just came out, here's my one, my one.
• 1:15:09
  Okay, So I feel like this is this is pretty easy for me.
• 1:15:14
  Give me shack give me Shack as my center. He's a little guy.
• 1:15:19
  He's a little guy. Okay, yeah, whatever, man, all
• 1:15:25
  right, you know what, give me Hackeen. Oh that's a nice pick.
• 1:15:30
  I just couldn't pass up on Shack. I couldn't well, Shack said
• 1:15:35
  himself. He can't guard Hackeen. So no, all right, I'm I'm
• 1:15:43
  trying to There's there's a lot of big men in this draft right here.
• 1:15:46
  Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa dude. Okay, time, congratulations for the
• 1:15:59
  first time. I thirty thirty is up to thirty five episodes. You finally,
• 1:16:03
  you finally caught me. Congratulations, congratulations. But all right, I'm
• 1:16:13
  I'm thinking right here. I think I'm gonna go ahead and put this guy
• 1:16:19
  on my bench. So I'm gonna go lou Al Sender, give me Kareem.
• 1:16:29
  What a loser man. So remember he's on my bench. Here,
• 1:16:33
  I'm gonna put give me Wimby on my bench. Bro. No wait,
• 1:16:39
  you already picked. All right, bro? You think I'm playing, but
• 1:16:44
  I'm not. He's gonna shut down that that that that that that Mohammad worshiper
• 1:16:56
  wha forgive me Muslim community. I didn't mean to say that, but it
• 1:17:01
  just came out, you know. Well, so all right from my four
• 1:17:08
  here. It's gonna sound weird, but give me give me David Robinson here
• 1:17:12
  as my four. Hey, well that don't sound wrong with me at all.
• 1:17:15
  Brother. I like that pick right up there. You know why.
• 1:17:19
  That's an m v P seventy two points in one game, two time NBA
• 1:17:24
  champion, Hall of Famer. He served our country. You know that's a
• 1:17:30
  great man right there. That's a that's a spur. That's a spur.
• 1:17:33
  And foremost wait, I didn't know that he scored seven seventy two points in
• 1:17:38
  a game. I did not know that. Holy crap. Okay, he
• 1:17:44
  won the scoring title and MVP that year. But what year was it?
• 1:17:50
  I don't know. I just know he did it. All right. Who's
• 1:17:57
  your next pick? Bro? There's no there's no shooting guards, bro,
• 1:18:02
  Like you know what, Uh, give me Kyrie Irving as my two.
• 1:18:10
  That's like Irving at my two because you can shoot. Take your guy,
• 1:18:23
  bro, take him, take him, do it. I know you want
• 1:18:25
  to do it, bro, I know you want to do it. I'm
• 1:18:28
  tifted. I'm tifted. Take that guy with the bad knees. Do it,
• 1:18:30
  bro, just do it. Hey, this is prime, This is
• 1:18:33
  prime. This is prime right here. But geez, it's just there's no
• 1:18:41
  guard play here. So I'm teams beating yours down the court. Nah,
• 1:18:49
  we got we got bron We we kind of match with we kind of match
• 1:18:55
  with Tim Duncan and a team because Shaq and David Robinson there they fit the
• 1:19:00
  mobility, both of them. So but then Winby is better than kream ajabar,
• 1:19:05
  So stop playing win that one. You know what, You're right,
• 1:19:12
  you know what. Uh, I'm not gonna let you take him again.
• 1:19:15
  So give me. Give me a I as my as my two loser Brona.
• 1:19:23
  I know you're gonna take a I and put them on the bench.
• 1:19:26
  I already know you're gonna you're gonna take a I. You don't know that,
• 1:19:33
  man, I should have put bron as my one and my three.
• 1:19:40
  Who am I gonna put my three? Mm hmm? Should I put them
• 1:19:49
  on my three? I don't got no shooters, bro, These number one
• 1:19:55
  overall picks aren't great shooters. No, they're not. Only one is Karl
• 1:20:00
  Anthony Towns, but he's a center. I would take Zion, but he's
• 1:20:04
  a fat ass. I don't need that on my team. I don't need
• 1:20:10
  I don't need that kind of that kind of attitude on my team. You
• 1:20:13
  can take them, I'm not taking them. Yeah, that's the criteria for
• 1:20:18
  Josh. He's a fat as. I take it him. You know,
• 1:20:26
  we're just about to start Baylor at my three. Yeah, okay, we're
• 1:20:36
  just about to start face cams. You're already about it gets canceled. Okay,
• 1:20:44
  so you guys to get some guys for real. So I think,
• 1:20:54
  would you be fine if I move Bron to the one? Or did you
• 1:20:58
  or it's just a little fight I can't move Huh, I would have did
• 1:21:02
  it? So is Bron locked in at the three? Yes? Or no?
• 1:21:06
  Because I'd be fine. I feel like it doesn't really matter. Okay,
• 1:21:11
  Okay, so I'm putting Bron at the one. Then for my three
• 1:21:18
  here, I'm gonna have to go with decisions decisions. I think I'm gonna
• 1:21:35
  have to take Zion here. I'm for real, I'm gonna I'm gonna put
• 1:21:40
  Zion at my three. Your team, Shack and Zion on the same team,
• 1:21:44
  talk about obesity. Noah, this is prime Shack. Quit playing.
• 1:21:48
  This is prime Shack. You mean Prime Shack was fat. No, Prime
• 1:21:54
  Prime Shack could Lakers. Laker Shack is not keeping up with honestly. Yeah,
• 1:22:00
  I think we'll be all right. I think he'll be all right.
• 1:22:03
  Yeah, No, we're going to be more than all right here, all
• 1:22:06
  right? Who's your I don't know. I don't know, brother. You
• 1:22:11
  maybe you may be able to jump, but yeah, that's all he's doing.
• 1:22:14
  You know, like you're telling me El Baylor is guarden Zion? Bro,
• 1:22:23
  Well, then should I be? Should I? Should I do it?
• 1:22:26
  To you? Bro? I think don't do it? Man, you've
• 1:22:29
  waited this long when you're testing the waters? Oh man, why is there
• 1:22:35
  so many? Like like there's there's a lot of centers, Bro, No,
• 1:22:42
  for real, it's almost like almost like this is a this is a
• 1:22:44
  big man's game. You know. It's almost like they said at these shooting
• 1:22:47
  guards. You know that I don't follow number two and three every year?
• 1:22:50
  You know? For real? Okay, I'm just trying to do my googles
• 1:22:55
  real quick, Ben Simmons, I'm just kidding. I'm not taking you should
• 1:23:01
  you should do it? Oh? Wait? I got a player I don't
• 1:23:04
  know if I don't know if you'll know who it is. Hopefully you don't
• 1:23:10
  take her hhmm Mark Aguire, Yeah, yeah, that's exactly who it was.
• 1:23:15
  Damn it. Larry Johnson, I was looky leaning towards Larry Johnson.
• 1:23:20
  I'm not gonna lie for my three. Really. Yeah, he was a
• 1:23:26
  dog, but Elgi Bayler is just better and he played and Larry Johnson played
• 1:23:31
  for Odesic College. So shout out to man represent four three two four three
• 1:23:39
  two. I don't know what I want to take right here, because I
• 1:23:44
  feel like, because I feel like it, we're gonna run a big lineup.
• 1:23:47
  No I'm not. I'm gonna go with uh yeah, I'm gonna go
• 1:24:00
  with Garrett Gross. You dickhead. Fuck fuck man. Why did you wait
• 1:24:06
  so long? Because even after I told you I wasn't gonna take Zion,
• 1:24:11
  you still took. You still took, you still took. Yeah. I
• 1:24:15
  wanted to make sure I got my three solidified. But give me, no,
• 1:24:20
  give me James Worthy here, Oh big games James James Worthy. He's
• 1:24:29
  a nice he's a nice wing defender. What do you know about big game
• 1:24:33
  James? I haven't watched the actual game of him pre historic time you picked?
• 1:24:44
  What are you talking about? Bro? Respect? Respect. Yeah,
• 1:24:50
  all right, all right, all right, so go ten d we could
• 1:25:09
  go ten players again. All right, we're going to Duke. Yeah,
• 1:25:13
  we're gonna have the same mistake we had last week. Whoever, God damn
• 1:25:21
  it, I'm just setting you up. Well, that's my eight, so
• 1:25:25
  that would have been my eighth guy. Yeah, dude, like our teams
• 1:25:30
  are not running like this is gonna be the slowest paced basketball game in the
• 1:25:32
  history of for real. Is probably gonna take over this entire game. It's
• 1:25:38
  gonna look like it's gonna look like nineties basketball, so disgusting. Yeah,
• 1:25:44
  uh, give me, give me Chris Weber. Here, I'm going with
• 1:25:53
  guys who could run just a little bit, just a little bit. Well,
• 1:25:58
  since you're going with mister Webber, I'm a big fan of this guy
• 1:26:03
  in his prime. I have to go with him, just so I can
• 1:26:08
  have a little speed, I'm gonna go with mister John Wall. I'm gonna
• 1:26:11
  go with John Wall. That's nice, that's a nice pick. I wish
• 1:26:15
  he never got injured. But here we are. You know, I was,
• 1:26:18
  you know, when I was younger, like before Curry became Curry,
• 1:26:23
  I swore John Wall was gonna win a Championship before Stephen Curry, like,
• 1:26:26
  I was like, really, John Wall, John Wall is that guy like
• 1:26:30
  John at that time though, before Curry started popping off like like John Wall
• 1:26:34
  him, yeah, you're not wrong, and he'd be throwing up gang signs
• 1:26:39
  while he while scoring on me. Bro. So so even if all this
• 1:26:43
  is done, we're gonna win the fight, Bro for sure, Like we're
• 1:26:45
  good, We're not yah h h jeez. I'm trying to look right now,
• 1:27:00
  Doug, there's Blake Griffin, there's DeAndre ay in Hell. Yeah,
• 1:27:09
  Dwight Howard ya mean Patrick Ewing. I'm thinking about this guy. You know
• 1:27:15
  what, I'm gonna go ahead and take Edwards Andrew Wiggins. I'm gonna I'm
• 1:27:19
  gonna go ahead and take take this guy right here, because it's gonna add
• 1:27:25
  some spark to my bench. Well, he's something. Give me Anthony Edwards
• 1:27:35
  here. I need a spark. I need somebody who's after I take electric
• 1:27:40
  off Edwards right there. No, I got it. I got another.
• 1:27:44
  I got another guy here. Trust, don't worry. All right, you
• 1:27:46
  don't got no one, bro. As he Russell quit playing nineteen sixty six
• 1:27:51
  New York Knicks. Mm hmmm, my last yeah, I'm going with Blake
• 1:28:11
  Griffin. You can go to Blake Griffin. Yeah, Brian Blake Griffin was
• 1:28:15
  a dog even Detroit Piston's Blake Griffin was a dog injured. No, he
• 1:28:21
  was underrated there, and he was able to shoot threes too, just nobody
• 1:28:28
  else was around him. Okay, So I'm thinking either Kwame Brown or Michael
• 1:28:33
  all Over. Candy m decisions, do it? Do it? I support
• 1:28:42
  no, but I'm stuck between two guys here, either Oscar Robinson or Karl
• 1:28:48
  Anthony Towns. You can't say nothing because you've got Elgin Baylor here. It's
• 1:28:57
  just I'm just trying to make sure I have enough, big man, because
• 1:29:00
  you got one two three. Knock on Elgin Baylor for bro. He already
• 1:29:04
  has enough as it is, not having a ring, dude, leave him
• 1:29:06
  alone. So I got one two three. Well, whoever he's he's a
• 1:29:15
  four slash five. You know what? Gave me the big Original? Give
• 1:29:25
  me the original triple double? Who give me the original triple double? Yeah?
• 1:29:33
  Exactly, No, give me Oscar Robinson? Yeah the big Oh oh
• 1:29:44
  no, But all right, you you go ahead and list your team right
• 1:29:46
  here. Your your trash take go ahead, mister aid Man himself. That's
• 1:29:56
  a crazy way to start off. That's that's a a crazy way to start
• 1:30:00
  off their holy crap, could it just say that? All right? Yeah,
• 1:30:08
  he had a lot of magic. Let me tell you, let me
• 1:30:10
  do good magic. Jonson Conspiracy, mister flat Earther, Kyrie Irving, Pared
• 1:30:19
  Dactyl, Origin Baylor, the Goat, Tim Duncan Hacking the Dream, Olajuwan,
• 1:30:30
  the greatest player to ever live, Victor Woman, Yama, Derek No
• 1:30:36
  No, No knees, Rose the Brow, Anthony Davis blood Wall. And
• 1:30:46
  then I got Blake Irvan jumped over a key, Optima were all right,
• 1:30:56
  might see you right here. We got the Goat, Lebron, we got
• 1:31:00
  Ai, then we got Zion at the three, David Robinson at the four,
• 1:31:03
  Shock at at the five. Then for our bench here we got Kareem
• 1:31:09
  James Worthy, Chris Weber, Anthony Edwards, and Oscar Robinson. Now your
• 1:31:13
  team's cooked, man, My team is cooking your team, bro, This
• 1:31:17
  is a five, six game series. Who's stopping Bron? What do you
• 1:31:21
  mean, bro, who's stopping Bron on your team? Tell me who?
• 1:31:28
  Johnson Bro? Stop it? Tim Duncan, Bro stop it. A D
• 1:31:34
  I'm putting. I'm putting a D on that forward. A D is getting
• 1:31:39
  cooked. Bro. All I'm saying is we're gonna force Lebron to shoot.
• 1:31:44
  That's all I'm saying. We're gonna force him to shoot. We're gonnace your
• 1:31:46
  team to shoot too. Outside he's going crazy, bro, Kyrie, I
• 1:31:50
  have the best three point shooter in the whole thing, easily, easily.
• 1:31:58
  But that's one shooter. This is gonna be, this is gonna be.
• 1:32:03
  I got John Wall I got two shooters. Dog, you got one shooter
• 1:32:09
  that you got one shooter? No, but no, there's gonna be a
• 1:32:15
  slow paced game right here. It's gonna be a battle of the big men
• 1:32:18
  here for your team too. I got Magic Kyrie, Derrick Rose, and
• 1:32:25
  John Wall I got and he could run, Chris Weber he could run,
• 1:32:30
  Zion could run, Ai and Bron they could all run. And Shaq he
• 1:32:34
  could run to Blake Griffin. Chris Webber and Blake Griffin would be a good
• 1:32:38
  like matchup to see one on one in their primes. That would okay,
• 1:32:43
  So the shaq Quin of chem because when we saw shaq Quin Ackem they battled.
• 1:32:47
  It was younger Shack. That was That was ninety three four, so
• 1:32:56
  this we're talking Prime Shack two thousand. But they both did they both did
• 1:33:00
  some pretty crazy feats, though hackem like led his team in every statistical category
• 1:33:04
  and had no All Stars. We won the championship. But we'll get into
• 1:33:09
  that in the second. We'll get into that in the second. We don't
• 1:33:11
  wanna, we don't want to spoil that last topic there. But now,
• 1:33:15
  this, this is a this is a five game series right here, brons
• 1:33:18
  Bron's taken over. And then yeah, one can due to great one on
• 1:33:23
  one versus Tim Duncan. Okay, who's stopping Kareem Wimby easily? Bro?
• 1:33:33
  Stop it? No way, I think that skyhook ship's gonna work on him.
• 1:33:39
  Bro. Hell no, how's gonna guard Shack? Wimby's out running Kareem?
• 1:33:44
  Bro. Okay, how's Wimby gonna guard Shack? Put his hands up?
• 1:33:51
  Nah, that dude's getting zitted to the second row. He's not getting
• 1:33:57
  sent nowhere. Bro, He's standing his ground, all right, Bro,
• 1:34:01
  all right now, I'm gonna put eighty to double. He's not scoring on
• 1:34:04
  both a Dy and Wimby. Bro. Oh, trust me. He will
• 1:34:09
  he will nah, Prime Shack Prime Shack at Wimby eighty combined equals one shock
• 1:34:18
  Bro. Come on, dude, like, oh it doesn't, No,
• 1:34:21
  it doesn't. It equals probably three fourths of a shack Bro Shack and Zone
• 1:34:26
  arguing to be taking oxygen on your court, sorr Bro, Like, it's
• 1:34:29
  not even like we're talking about nah, but all right, anything else you
• 1:34:35
  want to take away before we get into our last topic here. Your team's
• 1:34:41
  gonna lose. No, I'm sorry, we need a book too. I'm
• 1:34:45
  gonna put it. Get a two K game, I'm gonna make these teams.
• 1:34:46
  I'm gonna watch it, and my team's gonna win. I want to
• 1:34:49
  see that. I want to see that right there. I'm pretty sure my
• 1:34:53
  team clears actually do this. I can actually put this it do it,
• 1:34:59
  Yeah, just do it. Just Just text your Chris Webers Chris Regor in
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  the game. I know everybody the Kings. Weber is the only one.
• 1:35:10
  Oh they do have the Kings. Yeah, they have the Kings in there.
• 1:35:12
  So yeah, so yeah, there's no excuse. Zion is gonna be
• 1:35:16
  puffing and puffing. Is elgind Baylor in the game, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:35:19
  Elgend Baylor. He should be in the game for all time Lakers. Oh
• 1:35:25
  yeah, If he's not, I'll just stub in Larry Johnson. I guess,
• 1:35:30
  okay, yeah yeah, But all right, we're gonna go and get
• 1:35:32
  into this last topic right here. What you were kind of talking about as
• 1:35:36
  far as top five individual seasons all time, just it go back all the
• 1:35:42
  way from from the nineteen seventies, nineteen sixties, fifties, all the way
• 1:35:47
  to right now the top five individual that greatest seasons of all time. So
• 1:35:56
  all right, Josh, what's the fifth best individual season of all time?
• 1:36:03
  Twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four Victor wimpin Yama Roosy season stop, averaging
• 1:36:10
  twenty one points, eleven rebounds, two blocks per game. Yeah, no
• 1:36:15
  way, here dead series, no way, I'm just kidding. Okay.
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  Number five, I have Shaq Shaq Diesel O'Neill nineteen ninety nine, two thousand.
• 1:36:29
  He had twenty nine point nine points per game, fourteen rebounds, three
• 1:36:32
  point six assists, and two point two point nine blocks in the regular season
• 1:36:36
  one MVP. Cool, awesome, But what he did in the finals tops
• 1:36:43
  this all off. He had thirty eight points per game, almost seventeen rebounds,
• 1:36:47
  two point seven blocks, two point three assists, one still in the
• 1:36:51
  finals, MVP. I get it. He wasn't playing Wimby, he wouldn't
• 1:36:56
  have done that. But you know right now that that that's top five all
• 1:37:00
  time season, all time individual season of all time. And it's not your
• 1:37:04
  line to yourself, Man, you're crazy yet I'm I'm not trying to give
• 1:37:10
  away my list, but all right, well, number five I have lou
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  Al Sender. He wasn't even Kareem yet. This was nineteen. I was
• 1:37:18
  gonna put him. Yeah, I wasn't gonna put him, but I was
• 1:37:21
  like, but I was like, ah, man, he was playing like
• 1:37:27
  you're gonna bring up that Plumbers argument. Yeah, yeah, I was,
• 1:37:30
  I really was. But still okay, in your second year, averaging almost
• 1:37:35
  thirty two points a game, sixteen rebounds, three assists, fifty seven percent
• 1:37:40
  from the from the field. They didn't even record blocks back then, but
• 1:37:44
  they were saying he was getting four or five blocks a game. So Wemby's
• 1:37:47
  doing that right now exactly, and you're you're hollo, Ohimby's dig right now.
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  So imagine I magic Kareem. No, but imagine they've mentioned all the
• 1:37:58
  all the all the fans are like Kareem bro And then they finished with sixty
• 1:38:06
  six wins in the season, NBA Championship Finals, MVP, Regular Season,
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  MVP First Team, All NBA, Second Team, All Defense, All Star,
• 1:38:15
  and he led the league in scoring that year. So that's the fifth
• 1:38:18
  best season in my opinion. What's the fourth for you? I'm not gonna
• 1:38:23
  lie. I was gonna put that season at three, but I wanted to
• 1:38:25
  be a troll, so I just didn't do it. Like I was like,
• 1:38:28
  no, I'm not doing that. No, No, for real,
• 1:38:32
  this dude, we've got We've gotten some text before. He hates he hates
• 1:38:38
  old basketball. He hates old basketball, like, no matter who, Kareem
• 1:38:42
  third all time. I have Kaream third all time? But is that more
• 1:38:45
  because you believe it or because it's consensus? And like the all the accolades
• 1:38:51
  he was, I believe it. Okay, do that shit against you know
• 1:38:59
  some of these guys, like even the nineties and two thousands. I don't
• 1:39:01
  think he does it, but because those numbers were just too insane, like
• 1:39:05
  they're like, but he still would be good. I think he was still
• 1:39:10
  good. But if he were to play like Tim Duncan now he gets shut
• 1:39:15
  down. But you know, okay, so number four all time season.
• 1:39:18
  Maybe recentcy biased, but I'm gonna go with twenty twenty two to twenty twenty
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  three. Nikola Jokic, who should have won MVP this year in my opinion,
• 1:39:28
  should have won MVP. Yeah, twenty five point seven points per game,
• 1:39:31
  twelve point two rebounds, and nine point eight assists per game, almost
• 1:39:34
  a triple double. And then in the postseason he went sixteen and four,
• 1:39:40
  finished it out ten to one, and it had thirty points per game,
• 1:39:43
  thirteen and a half rebounds, nine point five assists, and he won the
• 1:39:46
  finals MVP. I think, honestly, if he won MVP, this would
• 1:39:50
  be top five season of all time, and that's why I have it number
• 1:39:53
  four. But he didn't win MVP. Don't matter, Crad, He's my
• 1:39:59
  number four. All right. Well, I'm gonna let you finish your list.
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  And then I was I kind of, I kind of want to see
• 1:40:04
  the criteria you're going based off. But the fourth the fourth best season in
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  my opinion, the individual season is ninety three to ninety four Hakeem where he
• 1:40:13
  averaged twenty seven points a game, twelve rebounds, three point six assists,
• 1:40:17
  a steal or one point six steals per games, three point seven blocks per
• 1:40:23
  game, fifty three percent from the field, and they had fifty eight to
• 1:40:26
  twenty four record. He won NBA Championship Finals, MVP, Regular Season,
• 1:40:31
  MVP, Defensive Player of the Year, First Team All Defense in all NBA,
• 1:40:36
  and he was an All Star. So just what he did throughout this
• 1:40:41
  season, and he busted shacks ass, And you expect me to respect to
• 1:40:46
  a rocket? Do you think I'm gonna do that? Do you think I'm
• 1:40:48
  gonna give respect to a rocket? No? Wait, so you don't have
• 1:40:53
  a chem on the list? No? Oh my cut? All right,
• 1:40:57
  well we'll talk about that in the second three above. The three above him
• 1:41:00
  are arguably, Bro. You have Nicola Jokic, Nicholas, he's a bus
• 1:41:05
  Hackem's ass. I don't want to know, bro, No, no,
• 1:41:10
  yes, yes, no, he wouldn't because they didn't make a movie about
• 1:41:15
  him, about his team from Houston winning a getting second in freaking the national
• 1:41:21
  championship. You know, Jokis didn't have to play in college basketball. He
• 1:41:27
  played professional bro, Hakeem, I'm not saying Yokis would get mopped, but
• 1:41:32
  Hakeem No, I just didn't think of hackem. I'm not gonna lie like,
• 1:41:39
  I just like he didn't come to my mind when I was making this
• 1:41:41
  list. I kind of lists pretty fast, and okay, yeah, okay,
• 1:41:45
  well that's fair, that's fair. Then that's fair. Then all right,
• 1:41:49
  who's your third third best season? I hate to say this year,
• 1:41:54
  but twenty twelve twenty thirteen, Lebron James average twenty six point six points per
• 1:42:00
  game, eight point one rebound, seven point one assist. People are gonna
• 1:42:02
  be like, the numbers aren't crazy. But he was playing with Chris Bosh
• 1:42:05
  and Duane Wade, so it's like if he was by himself, I guarantee
• 1:42:09
  you he would average a triple double. I'm just saying. And then he
• 1:42:13
  had won the MVP and finals. MVP Scott beat this first four two I
• 1:42:17
  get it. Yeah, yeah, Ray Allen, all this all that,
• 1:42:20
  But he had a great season. He really he wanted you know, this
• 1:42:25
  was his last MVP. Oh shoot, it was that's wild. Hun,
• 1:42:30
  he has won eleven years, but what he has four and yeah he has
• 1:42:35
  four MVPs. Yeah, four MVPs. Wow, yep, So that's my
• 1:42:41
  third all time year. So I'm gonna have to agree with you here.
• 1:42:45
  And they had sixty six wins on the season, and he should have won
• 1:42:49
  Defensive Player of the Year. He should have one point seven steals per game,
• 1:42:54
  one block of game. And you know how I know he should have
• 1:42:57
  won Defensive Player of the Year because so he made first team All Defense Mark
• 1:43:01
  Gasol who won it that year, he was second team All Defense. How
• 1:43:06
  the hell does a second team All Defensive player win Defensive Player of the Year?
• 1:43:11
  Yeah, look it up. I dun has made the most first team
• 1:43:17
  All NBA Team All Defensive teams and has never won Defensive Player of the Year.
• 1:43:23
  That's crazy, that's crazy. I I didn't know that. Wait so
• 1:43:29
  all because Ben Wallace won it, won in like three four times, right,
• 1:43:31
  Dwight Howard won it three? Dwight Howard. Mm hmm oh, I
• 1:43:40
  didn't even think of that. But no, I honestly think if Lebron he
• 1:43:43
  would have won Defensive Player of the Year. Yeah, obviously Marc Gasol,
• 1:43:48
  but if Lebron would have won Defensive Player of the Year. Here, I
• 1:43:53
  think it would have been the best season of all time. I just think
• 1:43:56
  you need those accolades up there to to compete with these two above. So
• 1:44:00
  who what's the second best season of all time in your opinion? Ninety five
• 1:44:06
  ninety six Michael Jordan thirty point four points per game, MVP, seventy two
• 1:44:13
  wins, First Team All NBA, First Team All Defense. You know the
• 1:44:16
  deal. You already know MJ does these things, but we made it more
• 1:44:20
  impressive. He was coming off getting his ass kicked by the Orlando Magic and
• 1:44:25
  nobody talks about came back, came back strong. You know, gambling led
• 1:44:30
  to a couple of things that made him leave the NBA and got a couple
• 1:44:34
  of people killed that we don't want to talk about. But you know,
• 1:44:40
  this is a good redemption for Michael Jordan's and this is why number two all
• 1:44:45
  time, all time season for individuals b You're always taking redom shot. It's
• 1:44:58
  the build up, it's the story leading up to this season. Like if
• 1:45:01
  these things don't happen, I don't think this happens, just saying, well,
• 1:45:08
  all right, you want to go based off of story, Well I
• 1:45:10
  kind of gonna go off of story too, So like how I'm gonna I'm
• 1:45:13
  going with MJ two, but I'm going with nineteen ninety ninety one, Wherey
• 1:45:17
  finally beats the Pistons and he gets his first championship. He averaged thirty two
• 1:45:21
  points a game, six rebounds, five and a half assists, two point
• 1:45:26
  seven stills, one block, could have won Defensive Player of the Year,
• 1:45:30
  fifty four percent from the field, a sixty one to twenty one record,
• 1:45:33
  got the obviously the NBA Championship Finals, MVP, Regular Season, MVP All
• 1:45:39
  NBA First Team, Defense All Star, led the league in scoring. He
• 1:45:44
  had everything that you could you could ask for it. The only thing that
• 1:45:47
  was just missing is Defensive Player of the Year. And so I have ninety
• 1:45:51
  five off of the list ninety five to ninety six because I feel like this
• 1:45:56
  team, it wasn't as as talented as that ninety five ninety six team,
• 1:46:00
  Like that was still talent. Obviously, you have to have talent around you
• 1:46:03
  to win a championship. But this was his least amount of supporting cast,
• 1:46:10
  if that makes sense. So that's why it makes this season even better and
• 1:46:12
  finally beating the Pistons. So that's my second best season of all time.
• 1:46:16
  So who's number one in your book? Wait? I already know who you
• 1:46:19
  have Oh my goodness, I already know who Yeah, go ahead, go
• 1:46:24
  ahead, two thousand and two, two thousand and three, Tim dunk I
• 1:46:30
  didn't think you're going to do it. Two point three points per game,
• 1:46:32
  twelve point nine rebounds, three point nine assists, two point nine blocks per
• 1:46:36
  game, MVP Finals, the MVP First Team, All NBA First Team,
• 1:46:42
  All Defensive, and he almost he should have had a quadruple double to close
• 1:46:46
  out them bitch ass nets in the championship. You know. So that's why
• 1:46:51
  Tim Duncan had the greatest season in the history of all of NBA basketball and
• 1:46:57
  why he is the greatest power forward in the history the game, arguably greatest
• 1:47:00
  player of all time. We can talk about the other day. Does it
• 1:47:03
  have to be right here? But you know, greatest, greatest season in
• 1:47:09
  the history of the NBA, cry about it. So, you know what
• 1:47:15
  that that rant It reminded me of you know that memew where it's like he's
• 1:47:19
  trying to get he's trying to guess it up. That's exactly what you did
• 1:47:25
  right there. What you mean, bro? What you mean? So?
• 1:47:31
  So number one who I have is who you had? Number five, which
• 1:47:35
  I thought it was crazy. I have nineteen ninety nine two thousand Shock season,
• 1:47:41
  where you you already listed the stats here, they had sixty seven wins.
• 1:47:45
  He was one vote away from a unanimous MVP, which it was given
• 1:47:49
  to Alan Irison, which shouldn't have happened. But anyways, obviously the Champ
• 1:47:56
  Finals MVP, regular season MVP, All NBA First Team, second Team defense,
• 1:48:00
  even All Star MVP, and led the league in scoring and field goal
• 1:48:05
  field goal percentage. I just think that nobody in NBA history has done what
• 1:48:12
  Chack's done in just one season like that, where he's just completely dominated,
• 1:48:16
  even the All Star Game, so he has all the awards and then having
• 1:48:21
  five still or wait, wait, wait wait, he had three blocks a
• 1:48:28
  game and two stills per game. Shock did That's crazy. That's a big
• 1:48:33
  man there. It's not like you have him as a perimeter defender. This
• 1:48:38
  dude was something different this entire year, and that's why it's number one.
• 1:48:42
  But nah, that's that's still the biggest thing as far as you having a
• 1:48:46
  Kola Jokic up there, because even against these guys right here, he's nowhere
• 1:48:55
  close defensively to any of those guys that you listed. Nicola Jokic, Hey
• 1:49:00
  I don't make the rules here, bro, I just I just put my
• 1:49:01
  list together, all right, you know, and Nicolae Yo Kicch I felt
• 1:49:05
  like I needed you know who kind of got left off my list though,
• 1:49:08
  was twenty eighteen because he didn't win a ring. Was on twenty eighteen,
• 1:49:14
  twenty nineteen. Y honest, he had a really good year, bro,
• 1:49:15
  like twenty seven points, twelve point four rebounds, five point seven, one
• 1:49:19
  point six blogs, one point three still if you wont champions if you won
• 1:49:23
  the championship that year, I feel like I would put him like where Yo
• 1:49:26
  Kitch was at. Yeah, honestly, Shaq is higher on my list.
• 1:49:30
  I have him at I would have. Honestly, I would have had him
• 1:49:32
  like it. But then I wrote him down at five and I just didn't
• 1:49:34
  feel like moving it, so I just left it there. So some guys
• 1:49:43
  I had off the list, so I like, I'm sticking with it.
• 1:49:46
  Yeah, might as well double down. So I had ninety five ninety six
• 1:49:49
  MJ for an honorable mention, and and then I had Tim Yeah, how
• 1:49:54
  you don't have that season top five? What ninety five ninety six? Yeah,
• 1:50:00
  I just feel like his his nineteen ninety and ninety one season. You
• 1:50:04
  know what season I honestly think is better his nineteen eighty seven eighty eight where
• 1:50:09
  he won MVP and DPOY and what he had, like what it was like,
• 1:50:14
  it was like thirty four seven eighty eight where he got closed line by
• 1:50:16
  Bill Lambier that was like, hey, you're you're the one saying it.
• 1:50:25
  I'm not trying to make a got case for him. I'm just saying I
• 1:50:27
  think that's better than his ninety five ninety six. Honestly, I think it
• 1:50:31
  is. This would have just been a list of MJ and Lebron seasons,
• 1:50:36
  but I just didn't want it to be fucked just lit it to two players,
• 1:50:41
  so I just yeah, so all right, is there anything else before
• 1:50:45
  we get in or before we wrap up this episode? No? I think
• 1:50:56
  we covered everything. Yeah, no, we definitely did cover a lot.
• 1:51:00
  But all right, like we like we always do towards the end of every
• 1:51:02
  episode, well a, let's have a so called MVPs of the week.
• 1:51:06
  And I don't know if you had an honorable mention, but Josh, who's
• 1:51:10
  your so called MVP of the week. Everyone's gonna think I'm so biased,
• 1:51:15
  bro, Like I wonder why I wonder why we had like a twenty minute
• 1:51:18
  round on here just just about web. I wonder why I love I love
• 1:51:24
  my team, dude, Like, come on, hey, I respect it
• 1:51:27
  the passions there. I'm the nick right of this San Antonio Spurs. Bro,
• 1:51:30
  I'm the nick right also on the other side, but I'm the nick
• 1:51:34
  right of the San Antonio Spurs. I gotta get my points across, bro.
• 1:51:38
  Dude, all right, So who who's your MVP? Womb be right,
• 1:51:44
  Yeah, it's gonna be my MVP, I said for the reasons earlier,
• 1:51:47
  So Victor wibin Yama. Yeah, okay, well I respect it.
• 1:51:53
  It's what twenty fourth time in NBA history somebody's ever had a five by five,
• 1:52:00
  huh. I thought it was like the fifteenth time. I thought it
• 1:52:04
  was in the twenties. I guess not. But no, But for honorable
• 1:52:09
  mention for me, it was Luca. You know what Luca averaged during this
• 1:52:13
  week? He that's right, I would if I didn't pick on MB.
• 1:52:16
  So he's he's my honorable mention. He's not even my so called MVP.
• 1:52:20
  This dude almost averaged what the forty forty points eight rebounds, ten point three
• 1:52:26
  assists, and then he had two point three steals a game throughout this week.
• 1:52:30
  But I'm gonna have to put Shaye. I'm gonna have to put Shay
• 1:52:34
  here because he went three and ozho throughout the week, thirty two point three
• 1:52:38
  points per game, eight eight assists, yeah, eight assists, five rebounds,
• 1:52:44
  one point six steals, one point three blocks, fifty nine percent from
• 1:52:47
  the field, fifty percent from three, and the plus minus was twenty five.
• 1:52:53
  He averaged a plus twenty five plus minus eighty two eighty or eighty five
• 1:52:59
  percent from the free throw line, and only had two turnovers a game.
• 1:53:02
  This dude just balled out. I know he's been doing it all season,
• 1:53:05
  but he went three and all throughout the week, so it's kind of hard
• 1:53:10
  to not put him up there. So I think this is the first official
• 1:53:14
  so called MVP for for basketball because last week it was an All Star game,
• 1:53:19
  so I feel like this is the first official one. But anything else
• 1:53:24
  you want to say before we wrap up this episode, Josh, nah,
• 1:53:30
  No, that's a great way to said. Some pretty outland. Some pretty
• 1:53:36
  outlandis in this podcast, but they're out there. You know they're gonna be
• 1:53:42
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• 1:53:45
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• 1:53:50
  bro. We can argue, we can argue. You know how you said,
• 1:53:56
  I said some stuff I didn't I want to take back. You know,
• 1:53:58
  nobody's probably here in the end of this right here, they just probably
• 1:54:00
  they just probably heard the most outlandis shit, Like, oh now, fuck
• 1:54:04
  this dude. We're about to tweet the fuck out of him and I'll argue
• 1:54:08
  with him. I will sit here, I will make sure I'm right.
• 1:54:11
  Yeah, yeah, I know, I know you will. I've seen I've
• 1:54:14
  seen you before on Twitter. But all right, yeah, let's go ahead
• 1:54:15
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• 1:54:18
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