Latest / Murder Files Unsealed / The Vanishing of Jasmine "Jazzy" Pace: A Tennessee Tragedy Unraveled
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to the deep Dive. Today. We're looking into a
- 0:02case that's just it's a really stark picture of modern
- 0:05intimate partner violence, a story where digital tech wasn't just
- 0:10used to track someone, but to actively try and hide
- 0:13a murder.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the case of Jasmine Pasce Chazzy Pasts having
- 0:16around Thanksgiving twenty twenty two in Chattanooga, and it's chilling
- 0:19because the cover up was so calculated, so digital.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Right. So we've pulled together sources from well everywhere, national
- 0:26coverage like dateline, detailed forensic reports, police documents, even you know,
- 0:30what the local community was saying online as things.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Unfolded, exactly. And our goal here, our mission for this
- 0:36deep dive is to really walk through the whole thing
- 0:38Jazzy's life, the relationship, how the digital lives were built,
- 0:42the investigation, and where the legal case stands now in
- 0:46late twenty twenty five.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Okay, let's set the scene, Chattanooga, Tennessee, Thanksgiving weekend twenty
- 0:51twenty two, the Pace family. They should be together, feeling
- 0:53that holiday warmth, right, but instead there's this this emptiness.
- 0:58Jazzy's missing.
- 0:59Speaker 2: Yeah, two two year old woman just vanished. But it
- 1:03wasn't only her physical absence that immediately set off alarm
- 1:06bells for the family, It was what was happening online.
- 1:09Speaker 1: That's the really strange part, isn't it. She was known
- 1:11for being pretty reserved, private, even very.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Private, not someone who lived her life loudly online. And
- 1:18suddenly her social media passwords are changed, her family can't
- 1:22get into her accounts, posts are being altered.
- 1:25Speaker 1: And then that photo appeared, the one that was so
- 1:27completely not her right.
- 1:30Speaker 2: This sort of provocative picture. It just screamed fake to
- 1:33everyone who knew her. It suggested she was fine, just
- 1:36you know, feeling herself and needing space. But it was
- 1:39the opposite of who Jazzy was.
- 1:40Speaker 1: It's that combination, isn't it. The physical disappearance coupled with
- 1:43this deliberate digital deception. It's like a violation on two fronts.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Absolutely, the killer wasn't just trying to hide a body.
- 1:51They were actively trying to rewrite her reality to control
- 1:54the narrative immediately after the crime.
- 1:56Speaker 1: It's incredibly insidious, and that's why we need to break
- 2:00this down. We need to look at the relationship itself,
- 2:03the actual crime, the step by step of the digital manipulation.
- 2:07Speaker 2: The technology involved like the cars tracking data, the surveillance cameras,
- 2:12and then the wider picture. What does this case tell
- 2:15us about dating apps, about cyber enabled violence and the
- 2:19legal challenges that come with it.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Okay, so before we get into the darkness, let's understand
- 2:23who Jazzy was. Who was Jasmine Pace.
- 2:26Speaker 2: She was born in May two thousand, grew up in Chattanooga.
- 2:29Just seems like a genuinely good soul. Everyone describes her
- 2:32the same way. Thoughtful, generous, fiercely loyal, especially to her family.
- 2:36Speaker 1: That's Southern charm, but maybe quieter, not loud or attention seeking.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Exactly, prefer deep conversations, one on one connections rather than
- 2:43big parties. She was described as like the family anchor,
- 2:48very dependable.
- 2:48Speaker 1: And a devoted aunt and godmother. Right I read about
- 2:51this video?
- 2:51Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the twenty twenty video Kids mentioned a lot
- 2:54her singing softly to her baby knees. It's incredibly poignant.
- 2:57Now just captures that gentle, maturing side of her perfectly.
- 3:01Speaker 1: It sounds like she had a lot of empathy.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Immense empathy, and not just for people. Her love for
- 3:06animals was apparently legendary in her neighborhood. They called her
- 3:09the cat whisperer.
- 3:10Speaker 1: H the cat whisperer because she had her own right.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Four of them, fliffy whiskers mittens in shadow. She absolutely
- 3:19doated on them, but neighbors also said she'd taken injured strays,
- 3:22nursed them back to health, just really cared for vulnerable.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Creatures, and that caring nature extended to her career path too,
- 3:29it did.
- 3:30Speaker 2: She was studying early childhood education at the University of
- 3:33Tennessee at Chattanooga. At UTC also worked part time at
- 3:36a daycare. What was her goal there, simple but profound.
- 3:41She wanted to teach kids to believe themselves. That was
- 3:44her focus, not chasing status or money, but nurturing confidence.
- 3:48Speaker 1: In little kids, which fits with that picture of quiet
- 3:51contentment you mentioned.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Completely, and her online presence reflected that quietness, didn't.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Yeah her Instagram, it was pretty sparse, not curated like
- 3:58an influencer's page at all.
- 4:00Speaker 2: It was just life, canon shots, maybe a sunset or cats,
- 4:04lots of cat selfies. Apparently it painted a picture of
- 4:07someone grounded, private.
- 4:09Speaker 1: And knowing that baseline is so crucial, isn't it for
- 4:12understanding what came later?
- 4:14Speaker 2: Absolutely critical when investigators look at a missing person, especially
- 4:17now they established that digital baseline, what's normal for this
- 4:21person online?
- 4:22Speaker 1: So when you see that sudden shift, yeah, from quiet
- 4:26cat picks to well, that lingerie photo.
- 4:29Speaker 2: It's a massive red flag. It tells you immediately that
- 4:32the person posting probably isn't the person who's missing. It
- 4:35suggests manipulation, somebody trying to create a false narrative, a
- 4:39reason for the disappearance.
- 4:40Speaker 1: It highlights the scale of the deception right from the
- 4:42start exactly.
- 4:43Speaker 2: It wasn't just a physical crime, it was an immediate
- 4:46attack on her digital identity too.
- 4:48Speaker 1: So Jazi was looking for connection, like a lot of
- 4:50people her age, especially post pandemic summer of twenty twenty two.
- 4:54She uses a dating.
- 4:55Speaker 2: App, Yeah, popular one, and that's how she.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Meets Jason Chin, student at UTC.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Right, he was adding engineering. On the surface, maybe it
- 5:04seemed like a good match. Fellow students, similar.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Age group, and the early days seemed okay, picnics, study dates,
- 5:11standard college relationship stuff.
- 5:13Speaker 2: That's how it started. Yeah, seemed to fit into her
- 5:15stable world. But that phase didn't.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Last long, Okay, So when did things start to sour?
- 5:22Speaker 2: Pretty quickly? According to friends she confided in. Later, The
- 5:26sources say Chen started showing these controlling tendencies and they
- 5:29apparently escalated quite fast.
- 5:31Speaker 1: What kind of controller are we talking about? What were
- 5:33the specific signs?
- 5:35Speaker 2: Well, classic red flags for intimate partner violence. Unfortunately, First
- 5:40there were jealous outbursts, getting angry about the time she
- 5:43spent with her family, especially her mom Katrina, or her niece.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Trying to isolate her.
- 5:48Speaker 2: Seems like it, that's a common tactic. Then came the
- 5:51more subtle stuff, digs about her appearance, questioning her dedication
- 5:55to her studies, undermining her confidence, and.
- 5:57Speaker 1: The surveillance aspect that seems really promp here.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Hugely prominent, insisting on knowing where she was all the time,
- 6:04and the big one, demanding to check her phone regularly.
- 6:08Need you see her messages, her calls.
- 6:10Speaker 1: That's not just insecurity, is it.
- 6:12Speaker 2: That's monitoring, It's absolute control. And her friend Bailly Putman
- 6:17is quoted saying, Jazzy initially tried to excuse it. You know, oh,
- 6:21he's just insecure.
- 6:22Speaker 1: People do that, try to rationalize it, especially early on
- 6:25they do, because maybe it starts disguised as intense caring
- 6:29or fear of losing the person.
- 6:31Speaker 2: But Jossy was empathetic, maybe she wanted to give him
- 6:33the benefit of the doubt.
- 6:34Speaker 1: But friends saw it differently.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Yeah, Bailly Putman said, it was clearly wearing on her,
- 6:39this constant need to account for her time. This pressure
- 6:43was chipping away at her. He wasn't looking for reassurance.
- 6:46He was asserting ownership.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Establishing that power dynamic. It really lays the groundwork for well,
- 6:52for what happened next.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Tragically, Yes, that need for control, that view of her
- 6:57autonomy as a threat, it fested.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Okay, let's move to that awful night November twenty second,
- 7:03twenty twenty two, the day before Thanksgiving. Jazzy's getting ready
- 7:06for the holiday.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Yeah, but that day was already marked by sadness for
- 7:09a family. Her great grandmother, who was ninety eight, had
- 7:11passed away peacefully earlier that morning.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Oh wow, so Jazzy was grieving.
- 7:16Speaker 2: She was, and apparently she decided to go see Jason
- 7:20because it will be for comfort.
- 7:21Speaker 1: And that's when she left her mother's house.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Yes, the last time her mother, Katrina saw her alive,
- 7:27Jazzy hugged her goodbye and said something like, I'm going
- 7:30to see Jason, He'll understand she was seeking solace from him,
- 7:35trusting him in that vulnerable.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Moment, heartbreaking, and then the phone data places her near
- 7:40his apartment.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Correct around eleven two seven PM, her phone pinged near
- 7:45Tremont Street, specifically Tremont Towers. That's where Chen lived, Apartment
- 7:49two ten, pretty typical student housing near campus, so she arrived.
- 7:53Speaker 1: There late Tuesday night and the violence seems to have
- 7:55started in the early hours of Wednesday morning, November twenty third,
- 7:59That's what.
- 8:00Speaker 2: The neighbors reported. Around two am. People in nearby apartments
- 8:03heard sounds muffled arguing at first, then it cut louder, crashing,
- 8:07sounds like furniture breaking, and cries. Yes, the arrest documents
- 8:11mentioned multiple neighbors hearing a woman's voice pleading, pleading, then
- 8:15more crashing, and then just silence, abrupt silence.
- 8:18Speaker 1: That sequence argument, chaos, pleading, silence.
- 8:21Speaker 2: It's chilling, it really is, and the forensic evidence later
- 8:25confirmed the absolute brutality of what happened in that silence.
- 8:28Speaker 1: The Hamilton County Medical Exaoner's report came out in January
- 8:31twenty twenty three. What did it find?
- 8:33Speaker 2: It found that Jazzy Pace had been stabbed sixty times
- 8:36sixty sixty. That number itself, it speaks volumes. It's not
- 8:42indicative of an accident or a quick struggle, or even
- 8:45self defense, as was later claimed. It points to sustained,
- 8:48excessive rage.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Were there signs of a struggle, Oh, definitely.
- 8:52Speaker 2: The report detailed extensive defensive wounds on her hands and arms.
- 8:56She fought back, She fought.
- 8:57Speaker 1: For her life, and toxicology.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Drugs, no alcohol in her system. She was fully aware,
- 9:02fighting desperately.
- 9:03Speaker 1: It's almost impossible to comprehend the level of violence sixty
- 9:07wounds against someone fighting back. It just points to an uncontrollable.
- 9:10Speaker 2: Fury, an absolute loss of control, or perhaps the ultimate
- 9:13exertion of control and intent far beyond just causing harm.
- 9:17Speaker 1: So the violence ends, and Schen doesn't call nine one one,
- 9:20He doesn't panic in a way that leads to seeking help.
- 9:22He immediately starts cleaning up, covering up Immediately.
- 9:27Speaker 2: The focus shifts instantly from violence to concealment. It's methodical, calculated,
- 9:31and it unfolds over ours.
- 9:33Speaker 1: What were the steps? How did he dispose of her body?
- 9:35Speaker 2: According to the prosecution, the first step was horrific. He
- 9:39allegedly used handcuffs to shackle her ankles, bound her right arm,
- 9:44treating her body like an object to be managed.
- 9:47Speaker 1: And then the suitcase.
- 9:48Speaker 2: Yes, he forced her body into a large, hard shell suitcase.
- 9:53That must have been incredibly difficult physically. That he put
- 9:56the suitcase into her own.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Car, her red Chevrolet Equinoc. That's a key detail, isn't it?
- 10:01Using her car a huge detail?
- 10:03Speaker 2: Because modern cars like her Equinox often have telematic systems,
- 10:08in this case, the Mychevy.
- 10:09Speaker 1: App, which tracks the car's location and movements nicely.
- 10:13Speaker 2: It essentially created a digital breadcrumb trail for investigators. They
- 10:16could see exactly where he drove in those pre dawn
- 10:19hours of November twenty third, and where did he go?
- 10:22He drove out to Suck Creek Road. It's a remote
- 10:24winding road outside Chattanooga, runs along the Tennessee River gorge,
- 10:28lots of steep embankments, dense woods, a place.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Where something could be hidden easily, especially in the dark.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Exactly he pulled over, dragged the suitcase out, and dumped
- 10:38it down an embankment. The Mychevy app data corroborated this
- 10:41timeline perfectly.
- 10:42Speaker 1: Okay, so disposal done. Then he returns to.
- 10:45Speaker 2: The apartment, returns to apartment two ten at Tremont Towers,
- 10:49and starts the cleanup phase, using bleach on bloodstains, sweeping
- 10:54up broken glass, trying to erase any trace of the
- 10:57struggle of Jazzy ever having been there.
- 11:00Speaker 1: But he wasn't entirely successful. He left things behind.
- 11:03Speaker 2: Right, He left her driver's license in credit cards in
- 11:05the apartment. They were found later, got a conspicuously placed.
- 11:09Speaker 1: Why do that? Was it intentional, maybe to suggest she
- 11:12just left? Or was it panic?
- 11:14Speaker 2: It's debatable. Maybe he thought it supported or walked away narrative,
- 11:18or maybe in the midst of trying to be meticulous
- 11:21he just overlooked them or didn't think through the implications.
- 11:24Either way, it tied her last known location firmly to
- 11:27his apartment.
- 11:28Speaker 1: And he also left with his own piece of physical evidence.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Yes, the lacerations on his right hand cuts consistent with
- 11:34a knife slipping during a violent struggle, particularly one where
- 11:37the victim is fighting back.
- 11:38Speaker 1: And he didn't stay in Chattanooga, No.
- 11:41Speaker 2: He fled pretty quickly, drove towards Nashville, ditched Jazzy's equinox
- 11:46somewhere along the route, and went to his parents' house
- 11:48in Nolansville, a suburb south of Nashville, but about one
- 11:52hundred miles between him and the crime scene.
- 11:54Speaker 1: And as he's physically distancing himself, he's simultaneously launching the
- 11:58digital deception campaign.
- 11:59Speaker 2: We talked about it exactly. The physical cover up and
- 12:02the digital one happened almost in parallel.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Right. So days pass, Thanksgiving comes and goes. Jazzy is silent,
- 12:10which was unusual for her, right, especially on a holiday.
- 12:12Speaker 2: Extremely unusual. The family is trying to reach her, getting
- 12:16more and more worried. Then they try to log into
- 12:17her social media or.
- 12:18Speaker 1: Accounts and they can't passwords changed.
- 12:21Speaker 2: That's when the real panic must have set in, because
- 12:24alongside the silence, there's this active barrier being put up.
- 12:27And then the fake messages start appearing.
- 12:29Speaker 1: What kind of messages Texts.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Send from her phone, claiming she was okay, just needed space,
- 12:35visiting a friend in South Carolina, grieving her great grandmother,
- 12:39plausible deniability, right.
- 12:41Speaker 1: Trying to sound like her but not quite right.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Exactly, using emojis she never used, like the sparkle emoji
- 12:48or kissy faces, just slightly off. Then updates on social
- 12:52media again saying she needed space using old photos, maybe
- 12:56slightly edited to.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Look new, building this narrative that she'd just take off.
- 13:00Speaker 2: Yes, But the one that really broke through the facade
- 13:03was that lingerie photo posted November twenty fourth, Thanksgiving Day
- 13:08caption feeling myself tonight GI.
- 13:10Speaker 1: And that just wasn't jazzy at all, not even close.
- 13:13Speaker 2: Her friends, her family, they knew instantly she was private, modest,
- 13:18she loved cozy sweaters, not posting sultry selfies, especially not
- 13:23right after her great grandmother died. It felt fundamentally wrong.
- 13:26Speaker 1: So they started looking closer at the posts themselves.
- 13:29Speaker 2: They did, they became instant digital detectives. They recognized the
- 13:32background in the photo. It matched an old picture she'd taken.
- 13:35Speaker 1: Months before, so it wasn't recent, definitely not.
- 13:38Speaker 2: And then they noticed the timing her account was showing activity.
- 13:41These posts were appearing during times when her phone records
- 13:44later showed her device was completely offline.
- 13:46Speaker 1: Meaning someone else had her logins and was posting maybe
- 13:49scheduling them.
- 13:50Speaker 2: Precisely, someone was impersonating her online, and then the online
- 13:55community got involved. The Reddit thread Yeah a relative posted
- 13:58about the suspicious photo on mussing persons and people started
- 14:02dissecting it.
- 14:03Speaker 1: And they found something specific, didn't.
- 14:04Speaker 2: They They did a crucial detail. Jazzy had recently gotten
- 14:08a new tattoo, and in that supposedly recent lingerie photo,
- 14:14the new tattoo was missing.
- 14:16Speaker 1: Wow, that's definitive proof. An old photo doctored or just
- 14:20reposted trying to make it look current.
- 14:22Speaker 2: Absolutely irrefutable. That confirmed for everyone, especially the family, that
- 14:26this wasn't Jazzy. This was a lie, a deliberate fabrication
- 14:29to make it seem like she was alive and well
- 14:31and had simply run off.
- 14:32Speaker 1: That must have been the tipping point for reporting her
- 14:34missing officially.
- 14:35Speaker 2: It was all these digital red flags piling up. Katrina
- 14:39her mom, officially filed the missing person report with Chattanoogapedia
- 14:42on November twenty sixth UH Detective J. D. Tumblin got
- 14:45the case.
- 14:46Speaker 1: But the family felt the investigation wasn't moving fast enough.
- 14:49Speaker 2: They were desperate, terrified, and that led them to do
- 14:53something understandable but problematic legally. Katrina and some relatives went
- 14:59to Chin's apartment, which was empty at the time, and
- 15:01went inside without a warrant.
- 15:02Speaker 1: And they found Jazzy's ID and credit cards there.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Yes, the ones Chin had left behind.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Okay, we have to unpack that. From a human perspective,
- 15:11you completely get it, a terrified mother needing answers. But legally,
- 15:16why is a warrantless entry by civilians such a big issue.
- 15:19Speaker 2: It creates huge problems for the prosecution regarding the chain
- 15:22of custody for that evidence. The defense can argue, well,
- 15:25how do we know this evidence wasn't planted? How do
- 15:27we know it wasn't contaminated, it wasn't collected according to
- 15:30legal procedures.
- 15:31Speaker 1: The fruit of the poisonous tree idea evidence obtained illegally
- 15:34might taint other evidence potentially.
- 15:37Speaker 2: Yes, it forces the prosecution, led by DA Cody Womp
- 15:41in this case, to spend valuable time in pre trial
- 15:45hearings proving that they would have found that evidence anyway
- 15:48through legal means, or that its discovery by the family
- 15:52didn't compromise the overall investigation. It just adds a layer
- 15:55of legal complexity and potential grounds for appeal down the line.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Cation born from desperation.
- 16:01Speaker 2: Exactly, a really difficult situation all around.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Okay, So, despite that complication with the ID cards, the
- 16:07police investigation was moving forward, particularly on the digital front right.
- 16:11Speaker 2: By November twenty ninth, they were actively tracking Jazzy's car,
- 16:15the Equinox, using that myshivy app data we mentioned.
- 16:17Speaker 1: And cross referencing it with other surveillance.
- 16:20Speaker 2: Yeah, specifically RTIC cameras that stands for Real Time Intelligence
- 16:23Center cameras think advanced license plate readers traffic cameras systems
- 16:28law enforcement uses to track vehicle movements over wider areas.
- 16:31Speaker 1: So combining the car's own GPS data with these external
- 16:35camera hits, they.
- 16:36Speaker 2: Could pinpoint the Equinox's route after it left Chattanooga and
- 16:39ultimately tracked it to the vicinity of Chen's parents address
- 16:42in Nolansville.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Which gave them probable cause for a search warrant there exactly.
- 16:47Speaker 2: They executed that warrant on November thirtieth, and the evidence
- 16:50they found at the Nolansville house was pretty damning.
- 16:53Speaker 1: What did they find?
- 16:53Speaker 2: They found blood traces visible under black light. They found
- 16:57the knife, the likely murder weapon, which each Chin had
- 17:00tried to get rid of in a trash chute, and
- 17:02they could clearly see the fresh cuts on his right hand.
- 17:04Speaker 1: Tying him directly to the struggle and the cleanup.
- 17:07Speaker 2: Yes, all the pieces were clicking into place.
- 17:09Speaker 1: So arrest followed quickly.
- 17:11Speaker 2: Immediately, he was arrested right there at his parents' front door,
- 17:15charged with first degree murder and abuse of a corpse.
- 17:18Bail was set at five million dollars.
- 17:20Speaker 1: A huge amount reflecting the severity. And then the discovery
- 17:25of Jazzy's body the.
- 17:27Speaker 2: Very next day, December, first, acting on the Mychevy app
- 17:30data and reportedly a tip from a hiker who noticed
- 17:33something suspicious off Suck Creek Road, officers went to that.
- 17:36Speaker 1: Embankment and they found the suitcase.
- 17:38Speaker 2: They found the black rtic suitcase. It had been partially opened,
- 17:42likely by animals. Inside were Jazzy's remains, still handcuffed and shackled.
- 17:47Has described in the allegations.
- 17:48Speaker 1: Just devastating confirmation. Katrina Pace had to announce that discovery
- 17:54publicly incredible.
- 17:55Speaker 2: Strength, unbelievable strength, and she'd needed for the legal battle ahead,
- 17:59because the prosecution started building its case for premeditation, not
- 18:03just the heat of the moment killing.
- 18:04Speaker 1: And a key part of that premeditation argument was sticky notes.
- 18:08Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds almost mundane, but these sticky notes found
- 18:12at Chen's family home were incredibly revealing. According to the prosecution,
- 18:16what was on them. There weren't love notes. They were lists,
- 18:19detailed lists about Jazzy, her past relationships, her supposed flaws,
- 18:23notes about specific arguments they'd had.
- 18:26Speaker 1: It sounds less like relationship processing and more like data collection,
- 18:30catalog and grievances.
- 18:31Speaker 2: That's exactly how the prosecution framed it. Diacutti Wampa argued,
- 18:35it showed Chen was collecting her like a specimen, objectifying her,
- 18:40building a case against her in his own mind.
- 18:42Speaker 1: How does that support premeditation Because it suggests the anger
- 18:45the resentment wasn't sudden.
- 18:47Speaker 2: It suggests he'd been dwelling on these perceived flaws, documenting them,
- 18:52obsessing over them for some time before the murder. It
- 18:54paints a picture of a calculated mindset, not just a
- 18:57spontaneous explosion of rage. It implies thought beforehand.
- 19:01Speaker 1: Okay, so that's the prosecution's view, premeditated murder supported by
- 19:05the cover up in these disturbing notes. What was the
- 19:08defense's narrative?
- 19:10Speaker 2: The defense claimed it was a spontaneous event, a heated
- 19:13argument that got out of control. They suggested maybe an
- 19:16accidental stabbing happened while Chen was defending himself followed by
- 19:19a panic induced blackout that led to the disposal.
- 19:22Speaker 1: How does that square? With sixty stab wounds and defensive
- 19:25wounds on Jazzy doesn't easily square?
- 19:27Speaker 2: Does it? Sixty wounds as hard to frame as accidental
- 19:30or simple self defense. The sheer level of violence seems
- 19:33to contradict a narrative of panic or accident. Plus the
- 19:37methodical cleanup and complex digital deception don't really screen canic
- 19:41blackout right.
- 19:42Speaker 1: And the trial itself has faced delays.
- 19:44Speaker 2: Multiple delays, appeals likely related to the admissibility of evidence,
- 19:49maybe that warrantless entry by the family, maybe other procedural issues.
- 19:53Defense attorneys also cited appalling jail conditions at one point.
- 19:57Speaker 1: So as of late twenty twenty five, it's still still.
- 20:00Speaker 2: Looming, and there's been mentioned a voluntary manslaughter as a
- 20:03possible plea.
- 20:04Speaker 1: Deal, voluntary manslaughter that carries significantly less time, maybe up
- 20:08to fifteen years. Why would the prosecution even consider that?
- 20:13Given the evidence for first degree murder?
- 20:15Speaker 2: It's often a pragmatic, if painful calculation. Trials are unpredictable
- 20:20even with strong evidence. Legal technicalities like the warrantless entry
- 20:24issue could potentially lead to evidence being excluded or create
- 20:27enough doubt for a jury. A plea deal guarantees a conviction,
- 20:30guarantees accountability, even if it's not the maximum possible sentence.
- 20:34Speaker 1: Trading the chance of full justice for the certainty of
- 20:36some justice.
- 20:37Speaker 2: Essentially, yes, it avoids the risk of an acquittal and
- 20:41the trauma and expensive a full trial, but it's a
- 20:43deeply unsatisfying compromise for victims' families.
- 20:46Speaker 1: This case really resonated far beyond Chattanooga, didn't it. It
- 20:50got national attention. So let's talk about the bigger picture.
- 20:53What are the main takeaways here for us, for the listener, Well, first.
- 20:56Speaker 2: And foremost, it's a brutal reminder of the dangers that
- 21:00can hide behind dating app profiles and the reality of
- 21:03intimate partner violence. IPv abs connect people, which is great,
- 21:08but they also give controlling individuals new tools for manipulation
- 21:11and surveillance.
- 21:12Speaker 1: Yeah, the level of digital stocking and impersonation Chen engaged
- 21:17in is terrifying, and those stats are stark. Something like
- 21:21one in four women experience intimate partner stocking, often with
- 21:24a digital component.
- 21:25Speaker 2: Now right, his actions hacking her accounts, faking posts, trying
- 21:29to build an entirely false narrative online. It's a form
- 21:32of cybercrime directly linked to lethal violence.
- 21:35Speaker 1: Has there been any response to that legally?
- 21:38Speaker 2: Actually? Yes? In Tennessee, lawmakers did strengthen the state's cyber
- 21:41stocking laws in twenty twenty three, partly in response to
- 21:44cases like this one. There's a growing recognition that digital
- 21:47harassment and deception can be precursors to, or tools for
- 21:50concealing physical harm. The law is slowly trying to catch up.
- 21:54Speaker 1: The case also exposed some challenges in the investigation itself,
- 21:57didn't it beyond the digital side?
- 22:00Speaker 2: That warrantless entry by the family, while completely understandable from
- 22:04their perspective, ignited debate about evidence rules and the pressure's
- 22:08family's face when they feel official channels are too.
- 22:10Speaker 1: Slow, that tension between procedure and urgency exactly.
- 22:14Speaker 2: And we also have to acknowledge the social context. Jazzy's
- 22:18case got significant media attention. Dateline covered it, hashtags trended.
- 22:24As a young black woman, her story received a level
- 22:26of amplification that sadly isn't always afforded to missing persons
- 22:30of color or those from less privileged backgrounds.
- 22:33Speaker 1: Her family's advocacy really drove that attention, didn't it.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Absolutely, They refuse to let her be forgotten, and that
- 22:39highlights the disparities that still exist in which cases capture
- 22:43the publics and the media's focus.
- 22:44Speaker 1: And her mother, Katrina Pays, has turned that grief into action.
- 22:48Jazzy's Voice.
- 22:49Speaker 2: Yes, it's a nonprofit she founded. It is two things,
- 22:52beautifully reflecting Jazzy's own passions. It helps fun therapy for
- 22:56survivors of intimate partner violence, and it supports cat rescues.
- 23:00Speaker 1: Wow, helping people heal and helping animals. That's a powerful legacy.
- 23:04Speaker 2: It really is keeping Jazzy's compassionate spirit alive. And Chattanooga
- 23:08remembers her too. There's a plaque by the river. Vigils
- 23:11at UTC. Friends hold Jazzy nights to celebrate who she.
- 23:15Speaker 1: Was, ensuring she's remembered as more than just a victim,
- 23:19as that bright.
- 23:19Speaker 2: Light exactly, and Katrina remains steadfast. She plans to be
- 23:23there for every court date, seeking peace for Jazzy. She says,
- 23:27not revenge, just seeking justice for that quiet, kind life
- 23:31that was so brutally taken.
- 23:33Speaker 1: Ultimately, this case was solved because the killer despite his
- 23:36attempts at calculation underestimated the truth. He tried to erase
- 23:40Jazzy and replace her with a fake online persona.
- 23:42Speaker 2: But her families love their refusal to accept the lies.
- 23:46Combined with a digital trail, he couldn't fully erase the
- 23:49car data, the notes, the inconsistencies. It all brought the
- 23:52truth to light.
- 23:53Speaker 1: So this deep dive really underscores how intertwine our physical
- 23:56and digital lives are now and how fragile trust can
- 23:59be online.
- 24:00Speaker 2: It's a stark warning deception can be crafted with just
- 24:02a few clicks, a stolen password, a manipulated photo. It
- 24:06forces us to think about authentication, about digital identity, and it.
- 24:10Speaker 1: Leaves us with a final thought, maybe, in a world
- 24:13overflowing with information, with carefully curated online selves, how closely
- 24:18do we really listen to the quiet truths, the authentic
- 24:21signals from the people around us? And what assumptions are you,
- 24:24the listener, making about the digital personas you encounter every day?
- 24:27What needs questioning