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October 20, 2025 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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Speaker 9: Welcome to the Writers Round Table with Rusty Berson, Robert
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Speaker 9: Sesna and your host Chip Howard. The Writer's Round Table
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Speaker 10: Well it's Chip Howard Sports Talk, but there's no Chip
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Speaker 10: Howard and so it's a Rustyberson here with the legend.
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Speaker 10: See Cessna. I just got back from Houston and I
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Speaker 10: had I got into traffic in Houston, and I really
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Speaker 10: hate traffic in Houston, and it makes me realize, you know,
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Speaker 10: occasionally we get backed up a little on Highway six,
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Speaker 10: and you know, I get frustrated. I have to wait
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Speaker 10: at the light two times at Briarcrest. But life is
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Speaker 10: too short to live in Houston or Dallas.
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Speaker 11: Well, I feel the same way a lot of times
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Speaker 11: going to press conference on Welburn when you got to
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Speaker 11: turn left to go back towards the Bright Complex and
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Speaker 11: I have to wait. I think the record's four lights
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Speaker 11: to wait for if they do it around you know,
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Speaker 11: twelve o'clock, what have you. And it gets a little
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Speaker 11: annoying when I got to leave the Eagle, you know,
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Speaker 11: forty minutes early for a press conference. But yet I'm
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Speaker 11: with you. I like when I have to go to
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Speaker 11: this side. He used to know, when you go down
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Speaker 11: there basically in seventy minutes and get.
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Speaker 5: Back the old No, I was in the heart. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 10: When I was in the forty five the worst part
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Speaker 10: of the situation.
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Speaker 5: And I'm with you.
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Speaker 11: Uh, I always have to laugh sometimes I go like
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Speaker 11: it always could be worse. I could be living in
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Speaker 11: Houston every day and dealing with that, and uh, I'm not.
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Speaker 11: I can go to work in eight minutes most days,
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Speaker 11: and I think that way it gives me more time
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Speaker 11: to screw up.
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Speaker 5: So you always got to look at the bright side.
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Speaker 10: You know. I figured we'd talk about the the Bucks
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Speaker 10: and the line. Since your daughter is a big Bucks fan,
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Speaker 10: right so my.
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Speaker 5: Wife, Oh so I'm sorry.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, And she's made the kids be Bucks fan or
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Speaker 11: live somewhere else. And since she's in charge of what
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Speaker 11: you call it vemo or vimo or.
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Speaker 10: On venmo veno, you know, you know I knew you
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Speaker 10: had you had had venmo your kids.
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Speaker 5: That's that's the life's job, Okay.
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Speaker 11: I mean I shouldn't say that's the wife joys doing
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Speaker 11: that because.
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Speaker 10: She knows I give venmo requests from my kids all
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Speaker 10: the time.
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Speaker 11: They would never get any money. If it was up
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Speaker 11: to Cease, I would try. And I got a new
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Speaker 11: computer that last week. Last week, I got it and
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Speaker 11: I hope it's working by Tomara. I dealt with our
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Speaker 11: it people today and luckily I got a fellow Pennsylvania
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Speaker 11: and that says, this guy's a real idiot, but I'm
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Speaker 11: gonna help him the best I can.
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Speaker 10: Well, let's get to the main addition here, the main
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Speaker 10: point here. And you were in Fayettville, right.
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Speaker 5: I enjoy that's the first I've only been the other time.
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Speaker 11: One up there was twenty thirteen and we kind of
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Speaker 11: left late beautiful.
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Speaker 5: Going in there.
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Speaker 11: I didn't even realize that part of Oklahoma is really
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Speaker 11: early nice before you go to Arkansas. But a great
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Speaker 11: drive for all Aggie fans and obviously a great result.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it was a very scary football game for Aggie fans.
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Speaker 10: I sit there and I was like, you know, this
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Speaker 10: can't happen. This can't happen. The tackling was absolutely atrocious.
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Speaker 10: I mean, I don't think I've seen the Aggie's tackle
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Speaker 10: that badly all year. I mean, would you.
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Speaker 5: Agree with that? Yeah, it's amazing.
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Speaker 11: I always like to say, like we all think we
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Speaker 11: know too much, whether we're a fan or a writer.
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Speaker 11: And I'm setting up there asking myself, why are they
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Speaker 11: so they're on their heels and we haven't really seen
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Speaker 11: the A and M defense to me on our heels
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Speaker 11: all year? Low you when they're playing Notre Dame, they
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Speaker 11: were tackling, but me, it looked like they were hesitating.
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Speaker 11: And then they hesitated, they missed a tackle, they give
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Speaker 11: us another tackle, and I'm thinking, like they're gonna screw
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Speaker 11: around and lose this game. They're gonna have one turnover
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Speaker 11: and that's going to be the key. But you know,
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Speaker 11: luckily ceases wrong again because that turnover never came. The
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Speaker 11: offense answered the bell every time. And when you have
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Speaker 11: a championship type season, these are the type of games
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Speaker 11: you win. And these are the kind of games that
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Speaker 11: in fifty years, I've seen A and M lose a
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Speaker 11: lot more of those type of games than they want.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it doesn't matter in college football anymore. How pretty
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Speaker 10: the game is. It's with a parody. It's just it's
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Speaker 10: like the NFL. Just win by a single point and
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Speaker 10: move on. And it really is like the NFL. There's
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Speaker 10: not a single dominant team. There's probably about in my mind,
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Speaker 10: there are probably eight teams that could easily win the
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Speaker 10: national championship, but I think Texas A and M is
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Speaker 10: one of them. I would not have said that before
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Speaker 10: the season, but if they can stay healthy, I tell
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Speaker 10: you what, you know, give a lot of credit. If
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Speaker 10: I was given the player of the game, I didn't
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Speaker 10: get to hear Elcho because I was in that hideous
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Speaker 10: Houston traffic today. But if I'm given the player of
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Speaker 10: the game, I'm giving it to EJ. Smith. I mean,
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Speaker 10: that guy was fantastic, wasn't he.
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Speaker 11: On fourth and one when he picked up that first down.
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Speaker 11: Now it's funny I think about this. You're right, but see,
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Speaker 11: if I picked my player of the game, and maybe
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Speaker 11: it's that one I normally don't pick, I would have
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Speaker 11: picked Bethel Roman on his two catches on second and ten,
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Speaker 11: one for a touchdown, another one led to a touchdown
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Speaker 11: because he misses either one of those. It's third and
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Speaker 11: ten both times. And I know it's a horrible defense,
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Speaker 11: but once again, rusty when you're a championship type team,
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Speaker 11: the Emmitt Smith, the Smiths make those plays, the Bethel
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Speaker 11: Roman make those catches. Marcel Reid looks like he's a
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Speaker 11: Heisman hopeful.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's the sad thing about that penalty bringing back
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Speaker 10: that touchdown. I mean it really is because if he's
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Speaker 10: if he gets that long run touchdown, he's got four
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Speaker 10: hundred yards of offense right himself. And then you know,
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Speaker 10: you know, for those who don't watch the game and
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Speaker 10: voting for the husband, they don't understand how close he
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Speaker 10: was in that game. Also, I nearly threw something the
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Speaker 10: remote controls for the TV at that point, but I
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Speaker 10: was like, you gotta be kidding me. That was the
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Speaker 10: I mean there was. Even the announcers were like, there's
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Speaker 10: no reason for that hole, that that three hundred pounder
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Speaker 10: is not going to catch Mars when he's almost passed
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Speaker 10: him already.
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Speaker 11: Well, I laughed because I always listened to the game
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Speaker 11: and luckily it's on about two played delay only because
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Speaker 11: I always say, like I'm writing to a lot of
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Speaker 11: people that watch the game, right, they're going to be
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Speaker 11: influenced by what those people say, and I want to
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Speaker 11: know what they say. And I chuckled because they showed
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Speaker 11: that replay. If the umpire was the if the referee
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Speaker 11: was that slow to put from his mind to put
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Speaker 11: down to his hand to throw that flag when the
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Speaker 11: guy's already twenty yards down the field, don't do it.
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Speaker 5: He shouldn't be out there officiating. If that was a penalty,
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Speaker 5: he should have called it wave. And I'm laughing.
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Speaker 11: It was like you want to ask, Okay, who in
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Speaker 11: Arkansas are you?
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Speaker 10: You know?
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Speaker 11: And related to it was like when Ken Hatfield won,
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Speaker 11: they won the game here a phantom minute, whatever interference
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Speaker 11: call said, like when they make those calls, and I
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Speaker 11: get it, he'll answer to somebody, But you cost Marcel
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Speaker 11: Reid a touchdown in fifty seven yards because he made
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Speaker 11: the right read and it should have been the game
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Speaker 11: was over. We talk about one call. The game was
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Speaker 11: over if that play stands.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's also over if you can tackle Taylor Green.
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Speaker 10: But that's that wasn't the outcome at all.
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Speaker 11: The play he almost he went back his feet touched
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Speaker 11: this as the goal line, and he runs about one
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Speaker 11: hundred yards since he runs across the field. If he
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Speaker 11: wouldn't have been ready to fall down for exhaustion, he'd
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Speaker 11: just scored on that play.
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Speaker 10: I was celebrating because just to play earlier, they sacked
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Speaker 10: him for twenty yards back and I'm like, oh, they're
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Speaker 10: not going to overcome this stupid play. Oh yeah, I'm like,
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Speaker 10: and sir, that that guy. He is definitely, from what
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Speaker 10: I can tell, he is the best quarterback Texas Adam
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Speaker 10: is going to face in the regular season.
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Speaker 11: I remember he had a bad knee too, because he
9:50
Speaker 11: had the thing around the knee. I was impressed with
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Speaker 11: how he threw the ball because a lot of times
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Speaker 11: dual threat quarterbacks do not throw the ball well. He
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Speaker 11: threw the ball well. He made the right decision. No
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Speaker 11: interceptions and no interceptions, no fumbles. He's more a fumbler
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Speaker 11: than he is an intercept and I was so impressed
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Speaker 11: watching him, and I got to put a plug in
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Speaker 11: personal plug in. It's been so long since I've been
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Speaker 11: to Arkansas. I forgot that they have an outdoor press box.
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Speaker 11: And so you're at the forty yard line on the
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Speaker 11: second deck. You're actually watching the game with seventy two
10:24
Speaker 11: year old eyes, not seventy two power bloculars. You can
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Speaker 11: barely see the field.
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Speaker 5: No, you take you.
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Speaker 11: You enjoyed every play I did that game because I
10:35
Speaker 11: was right there as the game unfolded in front of me,
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Speaker 11: and I get it to the media doesn't pay for
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Speaker 11: those seats, and of course Arkansas is still a little
10:43
Speaker 11: bit in the hills.
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Speaker 5: But I did appreciate the venue.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, And I tell you what it really, I felt
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Speaker 10: like it really hurt Texas A and M to get
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Speaker 10: that two hour to long because it made it a
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Speaker 10: night game.
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Speaker 11: It made it a night game, and suddenly the drunk
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Speaker 11: fans go, the game's closed.
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to the game.
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Speaker 11: There was not that many people in the stands, but
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Speaker 11: they might. It's it's like back a small town. They
11:06
Speaker 11: probably were driving. They go wonder why the lights are
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Speaker 11: on over at Razorback. I go over there and they
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Speaker 11: let them in because there was empty seats.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's it's it's kind of amazing that, uh there
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Speaker 10: was no atmosphere at all early on in that game. None,
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Speaker 10: and then it became, uh just it became like lsu.
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Speaker 10: Those people were going crazy, and.
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Speaker 11: Like I said, I was able to experience because what
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Speaker 11: I always hate is and you're not gonna beat cayle Field.
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Speaker 11: There's so many things. Don't get me wrong, You're not
11:33
Speaker 11: gonna beat cal Field. And then people ask me, Cessna Church,
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Speaker 11: what did you think about the atmosphere last night? I go,
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Speaker 11: I'm nine levels up. I go, I did what happened?
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Speaker 11: I didn't even hear that.
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Speaker 10: I was shocked. How many uh you know shots of
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Speaker 10: the crowd they took and everybody had their teeth. I was,
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Speaker 10: I was a bathing in shoes, yes, and shoes. It
11:52
Speaker 10: was pretty cool that they go they must be important fans. No,
11:56
Speaker 10: I mean they don't have anything else up where. I
11:59
Speaker 10: mean they got wall Tyson Chicken and Arkansaw, Razorback Athletic.
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Speaker 11: Nobody makes fun of things like that more than me.
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Speaker 11: But I'm the kind of guy that I always appreciated
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Speaker 11: going to Ames.
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Speaker 5: I would appreciated going to Manhattan.
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Speaker 11: Those people love their football team and they support it,
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Speaker 11: and I say, God bless them because they're not They
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Speaker 11: get negative, but they just love their team.
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Speaker 10: I think that my favorite place of all the places
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Speaker 10: I have ever been is Manhattan, Kansas, because it doesn't matter.
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Speaker 10: It has never mattered whether they whipped an m's butt
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Speaker 10: or A and M whip them. They the fans there
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Speaker 10: treat you the exact same way.
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Speaker 5: And I'm with you one hundred percent.
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Speaker 11: And people I go like, I'm going to Manhattan, I'm
12:47
Speaker 11: gonna get a steak in the media meal.
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Speaker 5: I mean, those people know and homemade ice cream.
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Speaker 10: The people used to say, oh, the Nebraska is the
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Speaker 10: best place. No, Nebraska is really nice when they're whipping
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Speaker 10: your team's butt, because they'll stand there and they'll cheer.
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Speaker 10: But I've been there when when A and M whipped them,
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Speaker 10: they were not nearly as friendly. And so that's the
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Speaker 10: thing about Arkansas. Those fans can get nasty, and it
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Speaker 10: can get it can get very raucous, and all had
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Speaker 10: to do is just you know, I remember when A
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Speaker 10: and M, or excuse me, when Arksas was in Southwest
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Speaker 10: Conference and Arkansas would take over Dallas for the basketball
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Speaker 10: South was commerce basketball tournament, and it was I mean
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Speaker 10: they would come in and you know, ready for a
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Speaker 10: week and camp out around the arena, and I mean
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Speaker 10: literally intense. They were camping out because they couldn't afford
13:36
Speaker 10: hotel rooms. But but that's what I like that.
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Speaker 11: I can't you can't beat the college atmosphere when you
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Speaker 11: go and you watch A and M. I don't care
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Speaker 11: if they only one by one, they won by three.
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Speaker 11: What a victory. Because when you go on and that
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Speaker 11: many people pour that much into it and you win
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Speaker 11: the game, you walk out of there. A and M
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Speaker 11: had to feel so good about themselves. Maybe the defense nay,
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Speaker 11: But once again is you got to win those kind
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Speaker 11: of games if you're going to.
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Speaker 5: Be a championship team, those of the games. Who cares?
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Speaker 10: A and M?
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Speaker 11: Is the point where style points don't matter.
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Speaker 10: It doesn't matter.
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Speaker 11: Just and I'm watching on Friday night, I'm watching the
14:17
Speaker 11: Miami Louisville game, and we're at a restaurant, a bunch
14:21
Speaker 11: of media folks, and of course there's no sounds, so
14:24
Speaker 11: you can't hear what the announcers saying, which sometimes good.
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Speaker 11: And I'm watching it and I go, the best team
14:29
Speaker 11: is Louisville in this game, and they're at Miami, and
14:32
Speaker 11: every there's about eight people the week before said hey,
14:35
Speaker 11: Miami might be the best team in the nation.
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Speaker 5: And then Louisville just whips some physically hold onto.
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Speaker 11: The ball, and just what you said, that's why you
14:44
Speaker 11: turn the TV on every day every day?
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Speaker 10: Well, I mean, you know, it's when I look at
14:50
Speaker 10: across the board, and of course I warm myself in
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Speaker 10: advance before I ever do it, because we always talk
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Speaker 10: about you can't compare one week to the next week,
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Speaker 10: and but I've seen it enough college football that there's
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Speaker 10: just no elite teams out there, you know. I mean,
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Speaker 10: I think Texas's offense is atrocious. I think their offensive
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Speaker 10: line is bad. They actually I think they were negative
15:11
Speaker 10: yards on that field goal drive to win it, because
15:16
Speaker 10: I was shocked when I woke up and found out
15:18
Speaker 10: that Napier had been the coach fire. I think it
15:21
Speaker 10: should have been stoops. I mean that was bonehead among
15:24
Speaker 10: bonehead to run the same play like that, I mean,
15:27
Speaker 10: the dive over the top on third, the dive over
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Speaker 10: the top on fourth, It's.
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Speaker 5: Ridiculous, see stupid.
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Speaker 11: But once again, is these guys we talked about we
15:36
Speaker 11: laught watch those guys make I was I was working,
15:39
Speaker 11: so I got one of the few plays I got
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Speaker 11: to see live was in second overtime Auburn on third
15:46
Speaker 11: and six, didn't trap play. You got six yards, you
15:50
Speaker 11: don't have a quarterback, you can't run the ball, and
15:53
Speaker 11: you do an inside trap with maybe your job on
15:56
Speaker 11: the line. And I'm thinking, like, is you freeze having
15:59
Speaker 11: an early tea time?
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Speaker 5: I mean, that was just brutal.
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Speaker 10: And again that Missouri is not that good, right, No, man,
16:06
Speaker 10: they should have beat Alabama the week before if they
16:08
Speaker 10: could throw the football at all. And so people asked me.
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Speaker 10: I was having this discussion with college buddy. He's like,
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Speaker 10: I can't believe A and M's three the most overrated
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Speaker 10: team in the country.
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Speaker 5: I was like, well, are you gonna put up there?
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Speaker 10: Who are you gonna put there? You know what I mean,
16:22
Speaker 10: there are no great teams.
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Speaker 5: Everybody says, oh, High State, and my self like, okay,
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Speaker 5: who did they?
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Speaker 10: They barely beat Texas? I mean they'd beat Texas by
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Speaker 10: fourteen to seven, right, at home at home, and yeah,
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Speaker 10: they're not. There's not a single team anywhere where I
16:39
Speaker 10: can look at it and say, now, A and M
16:41
Speaker 10: couldn't beat them.
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Speaker 11: Well, what's funny is that someone asked me because I
16:45
Speaker 11: am an AP voter, and last week I put A
16:47
Speaker 11: and M above Indiana, and then people asking what did
16:49
Speaker 11: you do this week? Go, I still have A and
16:50
Speaker 11: M above Indiana because I don't think I'm a homer.
16:53
Speaker 11: And if you wanted to say, because I feel if
16:56
Speaker 11: you put a gun to my head and A and
16:58
Speaker 11: M plays Indiana, I'm taking AM now. And I might
17:02
Speaker 11: even say that with the Ohio State because I get it.
17:05
Speaker 11: Ohio State's been there before and won it. But I
17:09
Speaker 11: did have to laugh to chuckle today. I always, you know,
17:12
Speaker 11: it's good to listen to every coach. I always try
17:14
Speaker 11: to look for the tee lees. But one time elcho
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Speaker 11: Goes said about something when you're getting to the playoff,
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Speaker 11: So I mean they're in a situation where you can
17:23
Speaker 11: you actually can comfortably say that, and I'm on, there
17:26
Speaker 11: are three wins from the play because it's a long time.
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Speaker 5: Because since you can say this team is seven and
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Speaker 5: O baby.
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Speaker 10: It's seven and oh and it's not as as talents.
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Speaker 10: I've said this many times, it's not as talented as
17:39
Speaker 10: twenty twelve team, but the competition is not nearly as
17:43
Speaker 10: good as what they faced in twenty twelve. They didn't
17:46
Speaker 10: and they've already beaten Florida and they're gonna probably beat
17:49
Speaker 10: LSU this weekend. I mean, the beautiful thing about that
17:54
Speaker 10: Arkansas wind is it gives you room for a stumble.
17:58
Speaker 10: So had they lost that game, then you're thinking, you know,
18:02
Speaker 10: you can't you can't double twice because then you're you're
18:05
Speaker 10: thinking you can't have more than two loss. Well, they
18:08
Speaker 10: start knocking these things off, you know, and if they
18:10
Speaker 10: can go to Baton Rouge and win, then you're eight
18:13
Speaker 10: no and you get a week off again. Then you
18:17
Speaker 10: you know, I mean at South Carolina's bad, and you
18:19
Speaker 10: know you're gonna be Samford. And by the way, I
18:21
Speaker 10: think Texas can lose three more times and stuff all,
18:24
Speaker 10: and I think they can lose at home against Vanderbilt.
18:27
Speaker 10: They gotta go to Georgia and I think an m beats.
18:29
Speaker 11: Him as well, and Arkansas could give them a game.
18:31
Speaker 11: I mean, Texas with no offense, and I'm with you
18:34
Speaker 11: one hundred percent. It's like I feel like A and
18:37
Speaker 11: M's got to get out of jail free card because
18:39
Speaker 11: you can lose a game and everybody says, all they're
18:42
Speaker 11: gonna lose this, gonna lose that game the road. So
18:45
Speaker 11: but what's amazing is they've taken care of business and
18:50
Speaker 11: that's something the previous coaching staffs couldn't at the end.
18:55
Speaker 11: And what I like about Elcho's team adjusts pretty well.
18:59
Speaker 11: As I said before on this show, sometimes I don
19:02
Speaker 11: knew not like that calls client makes, but overall, when
19:05
Speaker 11: you great, always calls what he does. How he got
19:08
Speaker 11: tight ends involved the last couple of weeks, how they're
19:10
Speaker 11: getting secondary wide receivers, how he's got all the running
19:13
Speaker 11: backs involved. A and M's offense continues to get better.
19:18
Speaker 5: And if you.
19:19
Speaker 11: Watch those two throws, and I wrote today about it
19:22
Speaker 11: in my column, his two throws to Bethel Roman, the
19:26
Speaker 11: first one down the side for a touchdown, the second
19:29
Speaker 11: one left side for a lad double touchdown. Those are
19:33
Speaker 11: the kind of throws we knew they were making the
19:35
Speaker 11: craver and concepcium, but this is Bethel Roman, the guy
19:39
Speaker 11: like fourth or fifth down on the list.
19:41
Speaker 5: That's how deep this team is.
19:43
Speaker 10: And that's what impressed me so much about EJ Smith too,
19:46
Speaker 10: because Ej barely even played against Florida. You know, I
19:50
Speaker 10: was walking out, Sam, I left that game a little early,
19:52
Speaker 10: and I was told my wife, like, that's a shame
19:54
Speaker 10: that EJ. Smith didn't get to play against you know,
19:56
Speaker 10: his senior year, against his dad's old team. But I
19:59
Speaker 10: guess he did have a couple of carriers after I left.
20:01
Speaker 10: But when he came out there and I'm like, and
20:04
Speaker 10: you're giving him the ball on fourth down, fourth one,
20:07
Speaker 10: and you know, I mean his own guy got knocked
20:10
Speaker 10: backed off, guy, Yeah, bounced off and you know, found away.
20:14
Speaker 10: That's a huge first down, I mean huge.
20:17
Speaker 11: And when you talk about it, when you hear the story,
20:19
Speaker 11: he come on at the end of the floorid again
20:21
Speaker 11: Florida game when the game is over. But yeah, when
20:23
Speaker 11: the coaches went and reviewed the tape and saw how
20:26
Speaker 11: hard he ran in a game that was decided, and
20:30
Speaker 11: they said, hey, we need to give this guy more
20:32
Speaker 11: curries next week. And then kind of with your get
20:36
Speaker 11: out of jail free game on the line, they gave
20:39
Speaker 11: the ball for him and every time he carried the ball,
20:42
Speaker 11: he gained yardage.
20:43
Speaker 10: Yeah, and he.
20:44
Speaker 11: Could have easily said, hey, I'm packing it in. I'm
20:47
Speaker 11: gonna take my small nil money and just ride the way.
20:51
Speaker 11: He found a way to get on the field.
20:53
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean hit seven for fifty two. He averaged
20:55
Speaker 10: seven point four mess fantastic.
20:57
Speaker 5: Zero behind the line, baby.
20:59
Speaker 10: That I mean that offensive line is really really good.
21:02
Speaker 10: You could say all. I mean, the entire offense was
21:05
Speaker 10: really good. I mean, I don't think I think I
21:08
Speaker 10: heard this right that A M need a team punted
21:13
Speaker 10: if they made the initial first down. There's there's a
21:15
Speaker 10: three and out and three and out a couple times.
21:18
Speaker 11: Two and three and twice both three and outs. I
21:21
Speaker 11: think Arkansas had won. But the getting back to A
21:25
Speaker 11: and M's offense, and I get it Arkansas and people
21:29
Speaker 11: tell me which is true. Arkansas had a bad defense,
21:31
Speaker 11: But you know what defense a lot of time is emotion,
21:34
Speaker 11: and that crowd was electric, as Ruski said, once everybody
21:37
Speaker 11: got in there, it got dark. That was a hostile
21:40
Speaker 11: environment and the defense was running hard. They were they
21:44
Speaker 11: missed a lot of assignments, Arkansas, but they played hard
21:47
Speaker 11: and they were looking for that one turnover, that one
21:50
Speaker 11: hard hit they played. I thought pretty inspired defense. But
21:54
Speaker 11: you know what didn't matter because a M's offense was
21:56
Speaker 11: that good.
21:56
Speaker 10: Well, and I mean, let's let's be honest. You know,
22:00
Speaker 10: is one heck of a football coach. And he may
22:03
Speaker 10: not be the guy that they keep around. I mean,
22:06
Speaker 10: who knows, but that was his first home game, and
22:09
Speaker 10: you know as soon as he left the first time
22:12
Speaker 10: and he went to Louisville and you know it had success. Yeah,
22:17
Speaker 10: but you know, Arkansas fans were so frustrated that they
22:22
Speaker 10: let him go. I mean, if you if you go back,
22:25
Speaker 10: you know a M has dominated the series over the
22:28
Speaker 10: last decade, but before that, it was Bobby. It was
22:31
Speaker 10: Bobby Petrina straight owned M owned Sherman. Yeah he did.
22:36
Speaker 5: And here here's the deal is.
22:39
Speaker 11: You know, Rush, I've been around long enough when you
22:41
Speaker 11: see certain guys and now goes one of these guys
22:43
Speaker 11: on defense. When Bobby Trino is calling a game, he's
22:46
Speaker 11: he knows what your weakness is. He's gonna expose it.
22:49
Speaker 11: He's just one of those guys that can call a game.
22:51
Speaker 11: Now he comes with baggage and da da da, But
22:54
Speaker 11: boy can he call game and the trap plays and
22:57
Speaker 11: whatever all got look is they ran for more yards
23:00
Speaker 11: in the first half than they'd him giving up in
23:02
Speaker 11: three previous games total in the SEC and they had big,
23:06
Speaker 11: explosive plays and all you look is Adam's top three
23:09
Speaker 11: tucklers were secondary people because the front seven was on
23:13
Speaker 11: its heels. Bobby Petrino had him on their heels.
23:16
Speaker 5: Yeah.
23:17
Speaker 10: I got to know Bobby a little bit when he
23:19
Speaker 10: was here. Uh he lived out Mirimont and he was
23:22
Speaker 10: a member out there, and so I got to talk
23:24
Speaker 10: to him a little bit. I really liked him. He's
23:26
Speaker 10: very low key, very level. He never, i mean nothing,
23:30
Speaker 10: never rattles him. You could tell that he wasn't giving
23:33
Speaker 10: wasn't given the control that he had hoped when he
23:36
Speaker 10: when he got hired by Jimbo and that you know,
23:39
Speaker 10: you just it was kind of like the less Kenning
23:44
Speaker 10: was like, you know, I'm not really calling these plays
23:47
Speaker 10: when it was like when he's when he's coach Fran
23:50
Speaker 10: right correct. And so when Fred got fired and Kenny
23:54
Speaker 10: took over, you know, he's he was really calling the
23:56
Speaker 10: players against Texas against Texas and they won that game,
23:59
Speaker 10: and so I was less still jokes about like see
24:02
Speaker 10: what happens, See what happened? When I got to call
24:04
Speaker 10: the plays well. I feel like Bob Petrino has finally
24:07
Speaker 10: been able to call the place, and that being his
24:11
Speaker 10: first home game, that team was ready for him, and
24:14
Speaker 10: that offense really played well for him. And I'm sure
24:18
Speaker 10: they have a great deal of confidence because if the
24:21
Speaker 10: defense was anywhere near there, you know that team could
24:24
Speaker 10: be so easily near the top of the SEC because
24:29
Speaker 10: the offense is that good. But this can't stop anybody.
24:31
Speaker 11: Yeah, because when you watch Bob Petrino's career and it's
24:34
Speaker 11: it's like it's a little bit like life. You really
24:36
Speaker 11: want to look at all my failures and what have you.
24:39
Speaker 11: Bobby Petrino has baggage, but when it comes to making
24:42
Speaker 11: a game plan and making calls and being a quarterback guru,
24:48
Speaker 11: it's much like Elko on defense.
24:50
Speaker 5: And I thought it was funny.
24:51
Speaker 11: I tried looking when they when they met a postgame,
24:55
Speaker 11: and it looks like that they were together a few minutes, seconds,
24:59
Speaker 11: lo longer or whatever. But you now they respect each
25:02
Speaker 11: other because Elco's one of the best at calling defenses,
25:05
Speaker 11: Patrina was one of the best at call on offenses.
25:08
Speaker 5: And you can see them at work. We've seen them
25:09
Speaker 5: at work and you don't take that light.
25:12
Speaker 11: And that's why Eco was so mad, not mad, but
25:15
Speaker 11: his He didn't get the best of Patrino. Definitely in
25:18
Speaker 11: the first quarter, first half. A and M made adjustments,
25:21
Speaker 11: and you know what, A and M's defense will be
25:24
Speaker 11: better moving forward from what happened with Patrino and I
25:28
Speaker 11: get it. They're not probably going to play another option
25:30
Speaker 11: quarter dual threat quarterback. Maybe do they get to the
25:32
Speaker 11: college football playoff if they get there, But once again,
25:35
Speaker 11: is that helps that unit get better? Because if you
25:39
Speaker 11: watched the game, their linebackers took some wrong misfits. As
25:44
Speaker 11: Rusty said, why do you have miss tackles because you
25:46
Speaker 11: don't know where you're supposed to be. You're getting it
25:48
Speaker 11: with an arm or whatever. And that was because of
25:50
Speaker 11: what Patrino called. And like I said, I'm criticizing you.
25:56
Speaker 11: We see you for we respects. I'll bonehead call on
25:58
Speaker 11: third and six and this is a game. Well, Patrino
26:01
Speaker 11: kept dialing up plays and they kept scoring.
26:04
Speaker 10: But you know what, so they know Arkansas is going
26:06
Speaker 10: to beat some teams and they're gonna win the next
26:09
Speaker 10: two games. They're they're going to beat Mississippi State at
26:12
Speaker 10: home and then they're going to beat excuse meet Auburn
26:16
Speaker 10: next at home. Then they've had Mississippi State at home.
26:19
Speaker 10: So those two next games, I bet the Hoggies win.
26:23
Speaker 11: Longest Green stays healthy because when I saw Green get hurt,
26:26
Speaker 11: oh yeah, they don't even went back in he was.
26:28
Speaker 11: He was one hundred percent. But once again, as all
26:31
Speaker 11: these coaches talk about the salary cap, you got to
26:34
Speaker 11: keep your number one quarterback healthy.
26:36
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26:38
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26:44
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26:48
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Speaker 10: Here with Chip Howard's Sports talk. And Chip's not here. Uh,
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Speaker 10: so you got Cease of Assessment and myself Rusty Burson.
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Speaker 10: Uh the Rider's square table, I guess it's really it's
31:38
Speaker 10: really not a round table. It's kind of like an
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Speaker 10: L shape. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: So what book? What book you're working on?
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Speaker 11: You talked about, you talk about There's not very many,
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Speaker 11: and of course I could say bred Zornman is trying
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Speaker 11: to be a junior writer. Not many, uh country people
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Speaker 11: in the country have a guy like you. What's your
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Speaker 11: book you're working on, Buddy.
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Speaker 10: I've got book number twenty five that I'm working on
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Speaker 10: right now, and it is, Ah, it's going to be
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Speaker 10: the Chiro's Prison Ministry and so I'm leading that this week.
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Speaker 10: So the book that I'm writing is going to start
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Speaker 10: with me volunteering for the first time in the Chiro's
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Speaker 10: Ministry and kind of really being nervous about it, and
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Speaker 10: then kind of follows the course of the you know,
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Speaker 10: the first guy I met in there, I'm still minister
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Speaker 10: I'm still basically his mentor and he's had a different
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Speaker 10: unit in episodes, but it's just gonna I think it's
32:31
Speaker 10: a really cool book. I think, uh kind of show
32:34
Speaker 10: how God works miracles behind those those walls, and so
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Speaker 10: I'm excited about it. But it's going to go for
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Speaker 10: me volunteering to actually leading the whole weekend, which is
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Speaker 10: I'm going to do this week.
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Speaker 11: That's great and if people want to join your away,
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Speaker 11: own Tristate this morning? He was huge into that. Yeah,
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Speaker 11: and I remember him, uh bag it Uh Donald Thomas
33:00
Speaker 11: Baggett was involved in that as well.
33:02
Speaker 5: Cool.
33:03
Speaker 10: So yeah, anyway, so I appreciate the the opportunity.
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Speaker 5: To plug that because I know my mother in law's
33:08
Speaker 5: involved in that as well, and I know.
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Speaker 10: You She and my wife will be working on the
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Speaker 10: outside support team cooking this week.
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Speaker 5: So and I know you do.
33:16
Speaker 11: You're fascinating books, and unfortunately I never give you enough plug.
33:20
Speaker 11: I don't have time to read books because I remember
33:22
Speaker 11: once time you're doing a book and you go, hey, Cee,
33:24
Speaker 11: how about I go rust you? I don't have time
33:26
Speaker 11: to read a book. I don't even time to read
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Speaker 11: my own stories, and people goes it shows.
33:31
Speaker 10: Well, hey, Anthy, surprise you in the SEC last week.
33:37
Speaker 11: Unfortunately, the time, in the two hours delay, I didn't
33:39
Speaker 11: get to watch as many games as I normally do
33:42
Speaker 11: the fact that Alabama is so good right now and
33:44
Speaker 11: is beating four ranked teams in a row without a buye,
33:47
Speaker 11: I think Alabama is really coming on, which I know
33:51
Speaker 11: I'm doing that for a chip always said de Beer
33:54
Speaker 11: was his guy, and after he lost that first game,
33:56
Speaker 11: I had my doubts.
33:57
Speaker 10: You know, I agree with you, they really came. But
34:00
Speaker 10: I'll go back to last week, and I felt like
34:02
Speaker 10: they should have gotten beat if Missouri could throw the
34:04
Speaker 10: football lick.
34:05
Speaker 11: You're right, you're right, but what are we talking about
34:08
Speaker 11: just moving? They had their one loss. You're right, they
34:12
Speaker 11: can't have another one. But watching the updates, you know
34:15
Speaker 11: Old Miss came so close to winning at Georgia. Talk
34:18
Speaker 11: about you know, keeping your get a jail free card right,
34:21
Speaker 11: and uh so, uh Old Miss and Lane Kiffin loses that.
34:25
Speaker 11: But I guess when I was the weekend, when I
34:28
Speaker 11: sit down late Saturday night and when you look at it.
34:30
Speaker 11: You know hatum seven and oh four oh and four
34:33
Speaker 11: to oh and sec. You know halfway through and when
34:36
Speaker 11: you think about everybody's chasing A and M and I
34:39
Speaker 11: know Alabama's three and oh in the SEC.
34:42
Speaker 5: I watched the way the game went.
34:44
Speaker 11: We were to barbecue place for two over two hours
34:47
Speaker 11: because of the weather.
34:48
Speaker 5: Lace.
34:48
Speaker 11: I saw a lot of the Vanderbilt game, and it's
34:52
Speaker 11: one thing that meant how good a player Pavia is
34:56
Speaker 11: and what he does to a team and a program.
34:59
Speaker 11: But you watch how they beat LSU, and I watched
35:02
Speaker 11: a lot of that game with no commentary, and bottom
35:05
Speaker 11: line is Vanderbilt was the better team. And when you
35:09
Speaker 11: consider about that, and here's a guy, Brian Kelly went
35:13
Speaker 11: there to win a national championship and anything less it's
35:16
Speaker 11: not going to be acceptable. And you talk about a
35:17
Speaker 11: guy that could lose some more games. But getting back
35:21
Speaker 11: to what you said, it's week to week and we're
35:24
Speaker 11: talking about Vanderbilt could go to the playoffs.
35:27
Speaker 10: We're talking about Vanderbilt being six and one and they
35:30
Speaker 10: host Missouri this weekend, and to me, that's gonna be
35:35
Speaker 10: I would be surprised if Vanderbilt just didn't run away
35:38
Speaker 10: from that one. I was a little surprised that Vandy
35:42
Speaker 10: was a favored team in the LSU game, but because
35:46
Speaker 10: it was home, you know, I was like, well.
35:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, I done me. I picked LSU, I.
35:50
Speaker 10: Picked Vandy, and I'm really glad that I did. I mean,
35:54
Speaker 10: in the PROG poll, I was eleven and four in
35:58
Speaker 10: the college and the high school, and I went one
36:01
Speaker 10: in four in the pro went. The only one I
36:03
Speaker 10: got was the Cowboys.
36:04
Speaker 11: I was seven and three, seventeen and three last week,
36:08
Speaker 11: this week, not a panel worse, nine and eleven.
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Speaker 5: I'm back there with my dog. It's like, look's week
36:13
Speaker 5: the week, Rusty. So many things are week the week,
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Speaker 5: and when.
36:17
Speaker 11: You stop and look, look and you dissect things about
36:21
Speaker 11: where Vanderbilt is and what they could do, it's not
36:25
Speaker 11: about next year.
36:26
Speaker 10: It's about next week. Yeah, I mean they, like I said,
36:29
Speaker 10: here's the remaining schedule. They play at home this weekending
36:33
Speaker 10: it's Missouri. Then they go to two Texas to play
36:37
Speaker 10: eleven AM game on November the first. Then they host Auburn.
36:43
Speaker 10: That's a win. Then they host Kentucky that's a win.
36:47
Speaker 10: Then they're at Tennessee to finish up, and that could
36:49
Speaker 10: be win. I mean Honestly, I could see Vanderbilt running
36:54
Speaker 10: the table. I mean I really could.
36:55
Speaker 11: But I also could see him be ten and two,
36:57
Speaker 11: and they're gonna be in the mix. At ten and two,
36:58
Speaker 11: they'll be I can see him being ten and two.
37:00
Speaker 11: I could also see them being nine three. They could
37:03
Speaker 11: lose at Tennessee. You know that game's at at three
37:06
Speaker 11: thirty or four o'clock. And then of course they could
37:09
Speaker 11: lose at Texas. I mean, Texas can play defense. We
37:13
Speaker 11: know that, so it would be strength, get strength.
37:16
Speaker 5: You've got to score.
37:17
Speaker 11: And when you see a guy like Pavia what he could,
37:19
Speaker 11: he can put you on your shoulder. And A and
37:20
Speaker 11: M can score in so many ways, and it's it's
37:24
Speaker 11: kind of funny how the game is. We always talk
37:26
Speaker 11: defense wins championships.
37:28
Speaker 5: I still they.
37:29
Speaker 11: Used to, But you got to be able to score.
37:32
Speaker 11: And we see so much scoring because of the rules.
37:35
Speaker 11: The way the rules are, uh, you should have receivers
37:38
Speaker 11: can get open and they're not going to allow them
37:41
Speaker 11: to do it. And when you're when you're looking at
37:43
Speaker 11: the best league and you're sitting there, A and M
37:47
Speaker 11: is four to zero in the best league in the country,
37:49
Speaker 11: you know they've got a couple more tough road games,
37:52
Speaker 11: and when you go to l s U, you think
37:55
Speaker 11: about they could cross off another big check mark if
37:58
Speaker 11: they could down the Baton Rouge and we and it'll
38:01
Speaker 11: be a night game. And I just don't know how
38:05
Speaker 11: into it LSU is going to be because.
38:07
Speaker 10: I think it was nineteen ninety four the last time
38:09
Speaker 10: A and M went to Baton Rouge.
38:11
Speaker 11: One was their last time go down there is knock
38:12
Speaker 11: because LSU didn't want any part of aing M because
38:15
Speaker 11: once A and M started beating them.
38:16
Speaker 10: I remember LSU in ninety five, which was also the
38:21
Speaker 10: last time an M was ranked three. In nineteen ninety five,
38:25
Speaker 10: A and M kind of just muddled through beat LSU
38:28
Speaker 10: at home and it wasn't very impressive, and I remember
38:31
Speaker 10: walking out there, I was like, I hope A and
38:33
Speaker 10: M doesn't fall out of number three because they beat
38:37
Speaker 10: LSU and they beat Tulsa and then the next week
38:40
Speaker 10: they had to go to Colorado and then that was
38:43
Speaker 10: the game that you know, it was the game that
38:45
Speaker 10: was the game that really ruined the Seeds.
38:47
Speaker 5: Sminger I think his name.
38:48
Speaker 10: Was, Yeah, Well, I just remember A M going up
38:52
Speaker 10: early in that game and the quarterback was knocked out,
38:57
Speaker 10: and then some guy named John Hessler came in there
39:00
Speaker 10: and just ruled the the plains or the mountains of Colorado.
39:05
Speaker 10: But it says, I mean, he could just do no wrong.
39:07
Speaker 5: He was Ralphie.
39:08
Speaker 10: Yeah, he just And they came back and they beat
39:11
Speaker 10: an M, and then A and M went to Texas
39:13
Speaker 10: Tech and they lost there, and they nearly lost home
39:17
Speaker 10: to SMU and it just the season just unravel at
39:19
Speaker 10: that point, which is the last time they were number three.
39:22
Speaker 10: So I remember I was driving over here. I was
39:24
Speaker 10: listening to Dusty on the first hour and he was like,
39:26
Speaker 10: you know, and I guess you were at the press
39:29
Speaker 10: conference day. I mean when when somebody who asked that
39:32
Speaker 10: question about uh, Penn State is is uh?
39:35
Speaker 11: It was it was Alex on on my shoe.
39:38
Speaker 10: So he basically said, you riders are crazy and and uh,
39:42
Speaker 10: you know we three weeks ago you wanted wanted to
39:45
Speaker 10: me fired. And I was like, I don't think that
39:47
Speaker 10: was the case.
39:48
Speaker 6: It was.
39:48
Speaker 5: It wasn't the case.
39:49
Speaker 11: All coaches exaggerate, And I chuckled to myself, if you
39:52
Speaker 11: were four and three, would a lot of people be upset?
39:55
Speaker 11: You bet you yeah, but you would not be fired.
39:58
Speaker 11: You would be down there unranked, and you would need
40:00
Speaker 11: to go on the road and everybody would say, can
40:03
Speaker 11: you get to nine and three or no worse than
40:07
Speaker 11: you know, hopefully not the eight and five again.
40:10
Speaker 5: But you're right.
40:10
Speaker 11: If he was four and three, he catched a lot
40:12
Speaker 11: of grief. But we live in this era where money
40:16
Speaker 11: is no object. These guys, these college teams, there's too
40:20
Speaker 11: many millionaires they want to win. Excuse me, they can't
40:25
Speaker 11: handle it. And you know, Penn State Auburn could come loose.
40:29
Speaker 10: Well, so my point in that Penn State conversation, you're
40:33
Speaker 10: a Pennsylvania native, Is Penn State a better job than Texas?
40:36
Speaker 11: A and M Well, I have to chuckle no, because here,
40:40
Speaker 11: here's the deal is when you look at what you
40:42
Speaker 11: can accomplish here, which hasn't been accomplished since nineteen thirty nine,
40:47
Speaker 11: Elko's got You look at Elko's career. Yeah he's from
40:50
Speaker 11: up there, but guess what he got away from up there?
40:54
Speaker 11: He was at the ACC, worked his way to Notre Dame.
40:57
Speaker 11: Come down here here the deal. He sees this as
41:03
Speaker 11: a chance to be one of the top three programs
41:07
Speaker 11: in the SEC, which means you're one of the top
41:09
Speaker 11: three programs in the country. You look at what he's done,
41:13
Speaker 11: the player he's he's added through the nil You can't
41:17
Speaker 11: fault his system and give me one more time. But well,
41:22
Speaker 11: there's noe. Why would he leave because he's got everything here,
41:25
Speaker 11: He's got everything on board, he's got his people in place,
41:28
Speaker 11: and they can say, oh, yeah, your home is where
41:32
Speaker 11: your money is and where the recruits are and when
41:34
Speaker 11: you Kyle Field and I get it. Copy Valley can
41:40
Speaker 11: be like that. But it gets cold up there. You
41:43
Speaker 11: gotta deal with Michigan, you gotta deal with the Ohio state.
41:47
Speaker 11: You got to live up there. I wanted to I
41:51
Speaker 11: thought the question had been answered. I think what Shane
41:54
Speaker 11: Biemer said yesterday. I want to ask Elco. I think
41:57
Speaker 11: this is his dream job.
41:58
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, with that dreaming land and the dream job,
42:03
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42:05
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Speaker 10: All right, we're back here on Chips Howard Sports Talk.
45:35
Speaker 10: I'm rusty and ceases right over here to the left
45:38
Speaker 10: of me, and we talked a little bit about that
45:40
Speaker 10: last break about Mike Elko, and I really do think
45:45
Speaker 10: this is his dream job, and I think that there's
45:48
Speaker 10: no way that he would even entertain offers to go
45:53
Speaker 10: to Pennsilate. I know his family loves Brancas Station. I mean,
45:57
Speaker 10: I know his daughter was you know, Michelle did not
46:01
Speaker 10: go to Fayetteville because his daughter's homecoming was this last weekend,
46:06
Speaker 10: and so I just know that they love this community.
46:09
Speaker 10: And I don't think he's going anywhere. And now I
46:11
Speaker 10: do think if he makes the playoffs, he's gonna get
46:13
Speaker 10: he's gonna get a bump and deservedly sow he'll probably
46:17
Speaker 10: get more money than you and me combined.
46:19
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, here's the deal is. I'd like to see
46:21
Speaker 11: A and M give a contract when something's done, not
46:28
Speaker 11: before it's done, or you're gonna do this.
46:31
Speaker 10: Not when Fran got to the Cotton Bowl and got smoked.
46:33
Speaker 11: But at eight and five or whatever, and give him
46:36
Speaker 11: this deal. And everybody said he was gonna go to
46:38
Speaker 11: Notre Dame and I go, really, I mean, no way.
46:41
Speaker 11: But once again, is when he gets to the playoff,
46:44
Speaker 11: like Indiana hasn't even gotten to the playoff, and I
46:46
Speaker 11: get it, they're a little bit different animal, but they.
46:48
Speaker 5: Got the guy.
46:49
Speaker 10: But they got there last year.
46:50
Speaker 5: But they got their guys.
46:51
Speaker 11: They got their guy, and I understand that's why you
46:53
Speaker 11: want to keep your guy. These people that are chasing guys,
46:57
Speaker 11: Auburn's chasing guys. Now even you can even say Penn
47:00
Speaker 11: State's chasing the guy, Florida's chasing the guy. They've been
47:04
Speaker 11: chasing the guy. A and M has their guy. Just
47:06
Speaker 11: let's see what he can do.
47:07
Speaker 10: You know. I think what's interesting about A and M
47:10
Speaker 10: is that they really haven't played their A game yet. Yeah,
47:14
Speaker 10: and not completely. I mean they've had halves where, you know,
47:18
Speaker 10: the second half against Florida was really impressive, you know,
47:22
Speaker 10: and but they haven't put everything together. And I think
47:26
Speaker 10: if they do that, they can beat anybody.
47:29
Speaker 11: They had to put their whole game together this past weekend,
47:33
Speaker 11: they'd have won about sixty two to twenty one, right,
47:36
Speaker 11: But they didn't because the defense just almost didn't show up.
47:40
Speaker 11: And I want to give, like I said, you want
47:41
Speaker 11: to give Arkansas credit. But yet as good as Arkansas was,
47:47
Speaker 11: I know in his heart, Elko believes seven to eight
47:50
Speaker 11: of his defenders are better than Arkansas's offensive players and
47:53
Speaker 11: it didn't play out that way because they didn't play well.
47:56
Speaker 11: That's that's the bottom line. And once again, you look
47:59
Speaker 11: at it the way Elko has judged talent, and he's
48:03
Speaker 11: touched on this. Now he's going to go out and
48:05
Speaker 11: start putting together top ten, top five recruiting classes.
48:09
Speaker 5: And I get it, you're not going to keep.
48:11
Speaker 11: All those guys the way football is today, But you
48:14
Speaker 11: know what, he's going to keep the guys He wants
48:16
Speaker 11: the guys that are better. And it gets down to
48:19
Speaker 11: you judging talent. And he's done such a good job
48:22
Speaker 11: in the portal when you look at all the guys
48:24
Speaker 11: we're talking about a lot of times, how Odie Mahn
48:28
Speaker 11: on the line, Concepcion Craver all through the trance for portal.
48:35
Speaker 11: Other guys could have got them. You Freeze could have
48:37
Speaker 11: tried to get those guys. Billy Naper could have tried
48:40
Speaker 11: to get those guys. Mike Elko got those guys and
48:44
Speaker 11: developed them. And will Lee, I mean, like this goes
48:48
Speaker 11: on and on. Scooby Williams. These are having all conference
48:55
Speaker 11: type of years or even even honorable mention whatever. But
48:58
Speaker 11: he's had a great eye for talent. Jimbo did too,
49:02
Speaker 11: but you know what, didn't do anything with that talent,
49:05
Speaker 11: didn't know the discipline, didn't know the schemes. And once
49:09
Speaker 11: again is what is your dream job? Mike Elko? Obviously
49:13
Speaker 11: you look at his resume. He doesn't want to go
49:16
Speaker 11: to the NFL. He's where he wants to be. So
49:18
Speaker 11: what there's not a better colleague job? What would you say? Alabama? Okay,
49:24
Speaker 11: I get it, Alabama, But Mike Elko's not gone Alabama
49:27
Speaker 11: and Alabama's.
49:28
Speaker 5: Not getting rid of the beer right now. He's at
49:31
Speaker 5: the best job possible. A and M.
49:32
Speaker 10: Are you ready to buy in and believe? Georgia Tech,
49:37
Speaker 10: Haynes King seven and zero? Okay, can't be any better?
49:41
Speaker 5: Seven?
49:41
Speaker 11: You brought that up because it's amazing what one guy
49:45
Speaker 11: can do, like what Pobby has done with Vanderbilt. And
49:48
Speaker 11: you could say, for that matter, what Elko's kind of
49:51
Speaker 11: done with.
49:51
Speaker 5: A and M. Do you believe?
49:53
Speaker 11: Hey, you talked about Cairos or whatever. There's a law.
49:58
Speaker 11: We're in the Bible belt. A church has a great preacher,
50:03
Speaker 11: they're growing and if you have an average preacher, guess
50:07
Speaker 11: what you got an average I hate to say it,
50:11
Speaker 11: but if your preacher is a rock star. He gets results.
50:16
Speaker 11: And it's the same kind of deal in life whether
50:18
Speaker 11: whatever whatever you deal in, are you falling a winner
50:21
Speaker 11: or you falling a loser? And Haines King, we never
50:25
Speaker 11: got the chance to see that side of him lays here.
50:28
Speaker 11: So when you watch that Georgia game last year, when
50:31
Speaker 11: you watch this guy play, his dad's a coach, a
50:34
Speaker 11: really good high school coach, and you could see that
50:37
Speaker 11: he leads people. Pavia leads people. Uh we talked about
50:42
Speaker 11: the Elko leads people, but Trino leads people. And you know,
50:46
Speaker 11: you make jokes all he leads co Ed's on motorcycles too,
50:49
Speaker 11: And I mean, I get but once again, is doing
50:52
Speaker 11: your job. And when I see and I go what
50:55
Speaker 11: I get it when you look at when you look
50:57
Speaker 11: at Georgia Tech, they have so many players that are
51:00
Speaker 11: not above three stars or four stars in other positions.
51:04
Speaker 11: But you know what, they've got a good coach, just
51:07
Speaker 11: like Vanderbilt does, and they've got a quarterback that they
51:11
Speaker 11: all believe it if he is the ball with.
51:14
Speaker 5: The game on the line.
51:15
Speaker 11: Pavia and Haines King, I'm not gonna say they're gonna
51:19
Speaker 11: get it done, but you know, everybody in that team
51:21
Speaker 11: believes they're gonna get it done.
51:23
Speaker 10: You know who's leading the Big twelve is BYU.
51:26
Speaker 5: They terback.
51:27
Speaker 10: They have to go this week though, they have to
51:30
Speaker 10: go to Ames Iowa and Iowa State's not a great team,
51:34
Speaker 10: but going in there, they've they've been known to knock
51:37
Speaker 10: off teams. They beat Oklahoma State with Oklahoma State was
51:41
Speaker 10: in the top five that one year. Then they got
51:43
Speaker 10: to go to lub It. So back to back, they
51:45
Speaker 10: go to Iowa State and love it. And I seriously
51:50
Speaker 10: doubt they'd come out of there to and Ozero. So
51:51
Speaker 10: I don't think Tech blew their chance yet.
51:54
Speaker 11: They didn't blow their chance, but get I was kind
51:55
Speaker 11: of surprised they lost that game when Arizona State did
51:58
Speaker 11: another starring quarterback once to get it goes back. They're
52:01
Speaker 11: not quite there yet because you got to go ahead
52:04
Speaker 11: on the road and find a way to win when
52:07
Speaker 11: you didn't of your quarterback. But they didn't. So they're
52:10
Speaker 11: not there yet. And I get it. They came out
52:12
Speaker 11: of not or You talk about a team they bought
52:14
Speaker 11: all their players, I get it. They they bought a
52:18
Speaker 11: get out of jail free card. They can run the
52:21
Speaker 11: table still win the Big twelve get into the Big
52:24
Speaker 11: Dance because that's what everybody wants to go to.
52:26
Speaker 13: That.
52:27
Speaker 5: That surprised me because I still I like texts defense.
52:30
Speaker 11: The times I saw them play, I thought they'd win
52:33
Speaker 11: that game on defense.
52:34
Speaker 10: You know, I'm looking at Indiana and they've got Ucla
52:37
Speaker 10: this week. Then they go to Maryland. Those are two wins,
52:41
Speaker 10: I think. Then they go to Happy Valley and oh.
52:45
Speaker 11: And four Happy Valley in Big Ten play oh and four.
52:49
Speaker 10: If Penn State wants to redeem anything, if those players
52:52
Speaker 10: are still willing to play, that's the game I mean,
52:55
Speaker 10: because otherwise I don't see Indiana losing the game in
52:57
Speaker 10: the regular season.
52:58
Speaker 11: I'm a big in Indiana fan because that guy was
53:02
Speaker 11: head coach at my school. I went to Iup. He
53:05
Speaker 11: was head coach there, and it's a big name. He's
53:07
Speaker 11: a pit boy, and uh, I just like when a
53:10
Speaker 11: coach like that comes out of nowhere and he goes
53:12
Speaker 11: to a nowhere football school and I know, if he
53:16
Speaker 11: walks in right now, I wouldn't know who he was.
53:18
Speaker 11: But he's pressed the right buttons and he's got good lineage.
53:21
Speaker 11: When you look at his brother's coaching, I mean, they're
53:25
Speaker 11: they're all coaches he has. I love the people that
53:28
Speaker 11: can push you right by. Like I said, whether you're
53:30
Speaker 11: a preacher, whether you whether you're a restaurant, why do
53:32
Speaker 11: you go certain restaurants in town? Because the food's good,
53:35
Speaker 11: the service is great, the manager. It's all about, are
53:39
Speaker 11: you a winner and A and M's got that feeling
53:41
Speaker 11: right now. Indiana's got that feeling right now. Miami they
53:45
Speaker 11: had that feeling, but then they got their butt kicked
53:48
Speaker 11: at home. Yeah, but they got one get out of jail.
53:50
Speaker 11: The beauty of the twelve team playoff. I gotta laugh.
53:54
Speaker 11: You're gonna see a lot of coaches when that final
53:56
Speaker 11: poll comes out that's in thirteen through twenty. A lot
53:59
Speaker 11: of lose their jobs within two years because you just
54:02
Speaker 11: missed out.
54:03
Speaker 10: I think Oklahoma gets whipped by Old Miss this weekend
54:06
Speaker 10: in Norman. What do you think about that one?
54:10
Speaker 11: I'm a voter, and I'll show my prejudice. I just
54:14
Speaker 11: every time I've seen them. I don't think Oklahoma's a
54:16
Speaker 11: top twenty five team. They've got defense, but yet they
54:20
Speaker 11: won enough games six and one, so this is a
54:23
Speaker 11: huge game for him. All the miss coming off the loss,
54:26
Speaker 11: nobody's cockier than you know coach cool that I shouldn't
54:31
Speaker 11: say coach cool because Helaine Kiffin is his own don't
54:35
Speaker 11: put them with the coach cool Lane Kiffin is in
54:37
Speaker 11: his own world. This is a big game for him
54:39
Speaker 11: and Oklahoma.
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Speaker 10: Yeah it is, and I think that. I mean, oh,
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Speaker 10: you kind of surprised me by scoring twenty six points
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Speaker 10: last week. I mean because then me too.
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Speaker 11: I picked South Carolina win that game. How stupid I was. Well,
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Speaker 11: I would have, but I.
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Speaker 10: Just didn't think that they could score twenty six points
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Speaker 10: because they look so inept against Texas. Yeah, I know
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Speaker 10: Texas can play defense, and uh.
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Speaker 11: But how about Ole Miss. You got to go back
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Speaker 11: to back to Georgia and Oklahoma.
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Speaker 5: That's tough.
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Speaker 10: That's a killer schedule. But that's the life of Nancy
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Speaker 10: c it is and I guess as uh as Chip
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Speaker 10: would say, we killed another hour. Yeah, where it goes?
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Speaker 5: What was that guy's name? Chip?
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Speaker 10: Yeah?
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Speaker 11: Chip, that's for Chip and his family need to take
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Speaker 11: a couple of days off.
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Speaker 5: We all, yeah, we.
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Speaker 10: Keep him in keep his family in your prayer.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go.
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Speaker 10: Absolutely all right, we did it.
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Speaker 5: Thanks.
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Speaker 10: I enjoying it.
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