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When the Teacher Becomes the Student - How God Leads Us to Relearn When We're Ready to Teach · Overwhelmed to Overcomer

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  Welcome to She Consider a Field podcast with coach, encourager, and fellow
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  entrepreneur and homeschooling mama of four, Anna McLaughlin.
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  As a homeschooling entrepreneur, you are uniquely positioned to impact the kingdom
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  of God, both deep through your investment in your children and wide through your
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  business.
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  And yet guilt, frustration, and overwhelm can hold you back from all that God has
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  for you.
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  Come with me on a journey to walk in deeper peace, purpose, and joy.
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  because God has given you a legacy to build and I'm here to help you enjoy the
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  ride.
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  Hello and welcome to the latest episode of She Consider a Field.
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  Y 'all, I am hot off of doing a guest podcast.
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  I was a guest on Jen Rogers' Amazing Podcast, which is currently called The
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  Empowered Stepmom.
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  She might be changing that.
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  I will be having her on as a guest.
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  She's amazing.
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  And I was like, I just want to come and talk to you guys because the people are
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  quiet relatively, although there was this, I'm just getting right into it.
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  I'm just warning you guys.
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  And like, let me just say real quick, thank you, Jesus, for being here.
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  Come and be in our midst and bless every single person who is listening today.
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  Amen.
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  Okay.
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  So there was this moment where I'm like mid stream and encouraging on something.
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  And all of a sudden you hear thunk, thunk, and then it gets louder and louder and
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  louder.
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  And I hear crying and I'm like, that she's, she said, is that something with
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  the audio?
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  Nope.
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  That's my kid.
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  That is my kid.
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  So praise God for editing.
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  She's going to be able to cut all that out.
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  Hopefully I gave her a good enough like edit point or whatever, but my.
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  youngest was about to break the door down to get in here because the our guest
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  bathroom, we just have a two bathroom house, didn't have toilet paper and that
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  was unacceptable.
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  And so he had to break down the door to make his way in here.
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  Okay.
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  So we did have that fun little moment, but just coming off of this wonderful
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  conversation with the lovely Jen Rogers and feeling so grateful.
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  to get to serve you guys, grateful to get to do this work.
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  I love what I do and I just want to encourage you, if you don't love what you
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  do, like we are made to love our work, okay?
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  Yes, there is a fall.
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  Yes, it is imperfect.
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  There is sin, there is struggle, there is darkness, there is striving, there are
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  personalities.
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  But if the work that you do in the world on the whole does not fill your heart.
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  with joy and satisfaction, at least sometimes when you're doing it, where
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  you're just like, yes, this is it.
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  I'm in my sweet spot.
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  Book an exploratory call with me.
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  Please let's talk about it because the Lord put something in you that you were,
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  you were like made to set right an earthly problem to make it more closely aligned
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  with the heavenly reality.
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  Okay.
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  You were created.
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  with a bent.
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  Some of those things that drive your husband and your kids and your best friend
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  crazy are the exact same things that make you the perfect person to do the work that
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  you were called to do.
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  Okay.
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  I was laughing the other day.
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  I got to hear an amazing training with my podcast like course that I'm a part of.
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  And if you ever want to start a podcast, I've got the perfect coach for you to
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  follow.
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  I'll get you, I'll get her on here at some point and get you connected with her.
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  Her name is Kristen Fields Chadwick.
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  So she brought on this lovely disc assessment.
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  person.
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  I'm just dropping all kinds of names because I've connected with all kinds of
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  great people this week.
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  A disc assessment person named Andrea Johnson.
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  I think I've got that right.
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  And she was talking about, are you the kind of person who feels excited when
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  there are other people in the elevator when you walk on or disappointed?
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  And I had to laugh because one of my indicators that I was in the wrong
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  profession was that
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  as a lawyer, I would get on the elevator.
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  We worked on the 42nd floor and I just couldn't help but initiate conversation
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  with all those suits that were in there with me, the accountants and the
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  investment bankers and the fellow lawyers and all the other staff that worked in the
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  buildings.
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  We just had to talk.
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  I had to tell them how cute their shoes were.
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  I had to tell them what a cool tie it was.
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  I had to have a conversation about the weather.
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  I could not help myself.
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  Nobody else in there had any sort of inclination or bent towards that but me.
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  Why?
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  Because I'm a people person.
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  I like to interact, right?
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  And so I was not in my spot.
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  We've talked about that before.
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  Okay.
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  But I came on here to talk to you guys about something specific.
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  It is none of this, even though I told you I was going to jump right into it.
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  And now we're five minutes in and I've just been telling you other things that I
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  think about the world.
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  But here's the deal.
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  One of the things that came up in the conversation with Jen today that I thought
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  was so important for us to remember is this concept.
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  The student becomes the teacher, that is true, but the teacher to teach best must
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  again become the student of the work they are teaching.
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  Okay.
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  Wherever we are leading others, we must go back into the valley again so that we will
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  lead others well with seasoning.
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  If we don't, we come from a place of pride or we can, we can come from a place of
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  pride.
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  We can come from a place of...
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  hypocrisy, or simply a lack of seasoning, a lack of tenderness to recognize the deep
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  struggle of this road.
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  Here's the catch though.
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  When we face those moments of reteaching, of relearning, of revisiting the thing
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  that we're feeling called to lead others into,
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  It can create, we can, we can walk in.
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  It can, it's like, I'm like, I just want to say it so much.
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  I want to get the words out.
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  I'm trying, it's like my vocabulary, my words aren't big enough.
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  That is the quickest route to a dark night of the soul of any that I have felt
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  because we wonder if we made it all up.
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  And so here we are.
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  And I know I'm speaking to someone right now.
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  You're you've you felt called to this thing.
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  You felt called to this thing.
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  I'm going to serve here.
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  I'm going to love others here.
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  I'm going to nurture others here.
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  I'm going to fortify others in this way.
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  This is how I'm going to serve the kingdom of God." And we start to walk into it.
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  And as we do, all of a sudden we're face to face with all of our own failings and
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  blind spots in the exact area where we're seeking to minister to people.
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  And it's like, I made it all up.
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  How can I help other people find freedom in the area where I'm just now face to
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  face with my own bondage?
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  How can I love and minister to others when I don't know what I'm doing myself?
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  I can't even lift my own head.
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  And this is something that, that we've been walking through in our family where
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  the whole mission of she considers a field is like, rise up woman of God, walk in
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  your fullness.
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  Right.
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  And we're specifically, I'm specifically speaking to homeschooling entrepreneur
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  mamas.
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  because you're like, I know you, you're my people, right?
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  And I know how intentional you are in your life.
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  I know how much you seek the father's face.
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  I know how much you desire serving deep in your family and wide outside of the four
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  walls of your home.
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  And so I, although my, my focus is on y 'all, my goal is not like,
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  helping you be better at homeschooling or better at entrepreneurship.
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  My goal is helping you rise up in your fullness before the father.
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  And yet I've never been more aware of my emptiness and my smallness than I am since
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  I decided to like step into this.
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  And so the, these, these moments of, of sitting down to record and going, what do
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  I have to offer?
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  These moments of, you know, trying to,
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  serve y 'all on social media or in the Facebook group or on an email list that
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  I'm like woefully neglecting because of the chatter in my head, right?
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  Those questions feel so loud right now.
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  And so, but I'm going to tell you this because the father has met me here and I'm
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  telling you because I know that you have work to do in the world.
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  We are misdiagnosing the source of that wrestle.
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  We think that the fact that we feel that
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  self -doubt that we see our own inabilities is proof of our inability, of
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  our like, that we're disqualified.
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  It's like, therefore we cannot.
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  And it's like, no.
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  The Lord is saying to you, this is proof that your commission is true.
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  Okay?
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  This moment right here, this doubt right here, this like, what am I even doing?
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  This is proof that the commission is as you think it is.
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  Because the Lord is saying, okay, yes, take on this mantle.
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  And now I will train you as the true, like, it's like, it's like the expert,
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  right?
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  This is where you go from knowledge to becoming.
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  This is where you embody the struggle in all its fullness so that you can give the
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  path to others well.
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  Because the first step is we don't even know there's this road to take.
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  The next step is we get led down the road.
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  The father teaches us how to walk it.
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  And then when we say, okay, this is where I want to serve.
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  Now he leads us almost down the road again, but with the lens of a teacher.
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  So that when we get out of that next iteration of learning the thing, we.
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  not only went through it, but we revisited it as the teacher in training.
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  Does that make sense?
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  Listen, mama, with as many different things as you're juggling, I'll bet some
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  days you struggle to remember to eat breakfast.
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  Y 'all, everything in me is like scrap this episode and just drop it.
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  Cause I don't know if I can get my words out for you guys, but my heart is like,
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  just, I just want to, I think part of it is I don't really know.
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  I know that this is for someone, but I don't really quite know how to get my
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  words around me.
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  So I think what's going to happen is the people who are not in this season of
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  stepping into a higher level of service.
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  You're going to hear it and you're go, you're going to go, there's my, there's my
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  girl chattering away.
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  And then those who are stepping into this new season are going to be like crying.
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  It's like, yeah, I'm feeling it.
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  It's painful.
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  This leveling up this coming to know intimately the struggle a second time
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  where I just am doubting.
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  Am I even, did I make it?
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  That's all I can.
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  That's all I keep saying because it's what I've been saying to Brian.
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  Did I make it all up?
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  Did I make it all up?
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  Friend, you did not make it all up.
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  Okay.
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  This proves the commission.
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  I'm just going to keep saying that this proves the commission.
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  When you are being retaught the lesson, it is because you are being taught it to
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  teach others.
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  Okay.
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  It's a whole different level because you're becoming, you're becoming not just
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  the
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  the student of the work, but the teacher of the work.
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  Okay.
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  The master of the work reflecting the face of the father in this area.
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  Okay.
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  So I just wanted to encourage you with that today.
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  We had, I had my little diatribe at the beginning.
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  You're called to love your work or you're, you're invited to love your work.
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  It is okay to make changes so that you can love your work.
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  Okay.
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  Changes.
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  I was just talking to a friend about this today.
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  Like, there is, we love to say we serve a resurrection God.
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  What we forget about that is that the only way we get to resurrection is by death.
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  Old things have to die, okay?
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  What we experience in the spiritual in the New Testament, we saw in the natural in
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  the Old Testament.
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  So for example, in the desert, the 40 years in the wilderness,
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  God cast judgment on all the adults who left Egypt except for Caleb.
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  Okay.
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  it's interesting because sometimes he includes Jonathan or Joshua and sometimes
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  he doesn't.
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  And I wonder if that's because of Joshua's age or if it's because Joshua was already
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  under Moses covering.
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  I'm not sure, but Caleb and Joshua.
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  Okay.
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  So otherwise all the other adults died in the wilderness, never seeing the promised
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  land.
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  Only Moses was graced with the opportunity to see the promised land, but he never set
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  foot in it.
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  People don't have to die for new things to be born, but the spirit, the old spirit
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  has to die.
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  Okay?
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  The judgments that we have, the fear of man that we have, the kind of like self
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  -effacement, right?
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  Looking down on ourselves that we have.
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  All of these things,
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  We can carry our packs to a certain point, and then there reaches a point where it
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  has to die for us to be able to move into the new thing.
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  And if it doesn't, we cannot advance.
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  Okay?
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  So that's...
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  It's painful.
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  It's really painful.
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  There's a lot of loss that precedes the rebirth.
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  But it is never wasted.
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  Okay?
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  It is never wasted.
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  and it is never overlooked.
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  The Father sees the hurt, the Father sees the sacrifice, the Father sees the pain of
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  laying down the old thing and risking the belief that there is a new day on the
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  other side.
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  It's a risk to walk in that faith, to say, I believe there's something different
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  coming, right?
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  But that's where we get to know the Father better.
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  So my invitation to you all today,
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  My invitation to y 'all is to love your work, give yourself permission.
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  And you know what?
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  You might be just like I was when I was a lawyer, where the only thing I could say
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  was what if I could?
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  I used to say to anyone who would listen, I could never leave my job.
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  I earned about three quarters of our family's income and we didn't make it to
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  groceries without my salary.
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  So I looked at the natural and I said, I can never leave my job.
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  It's impossible.
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  Nothing else could possibly work.
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  And the Lord stopped me in my tracks one day and he said, you are not to say that
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  again.
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  And he called me to say what he knew was the biggest stretch that I could do at the
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  time to say, what if I could, what if I could leave my job?
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  What might that look like?
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  And all of a sudden out of that curiosity came this, this road that led to where I
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  am now and all that's to come after that.
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  I don't even know what it is.
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  Okay.
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  So that question, what would need to change for me to love the work that I do
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  in the world?
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  And friend, that includes your work as a homeschool parent, that includes your work
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  as a mother and as a wife.
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  What would need to change?
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  What would I need to believe?
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  What boundaries would I need to set?
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  What would I need to incorporate?
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  Like for me, there's a lot of flexibility in our homeschool day because I find the
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  world incredibly fascinating and I get kind of bored by checking the same boxes
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  all the time.
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  Like, please don't just give me a curriculum where we have to get up and do
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  the same thing every day.
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  Like, I just, I don't know, I just can't.
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  So sometimes school looks not very schoolish.
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  Like today school was planning a trip together.
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  We got out maps.
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  We looked at, YouTube videos of the different places we could go.
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  We figured out our route.
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  We talked about the different states we would visit and that was school.
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  And you know what?
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  If the North Carolina homeschool commission is listening right now, and
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  that didn't count, like I will delete the check mark.
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  Just let me know.
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  But in my mind, my kids learned a lot.
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  They learned a lot today.
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  that they're going to be able to use for this experience that's coming up with this
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  trip and for their lives.
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  Looking at how mommy plans.
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  Okay.
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  what would need to change for me to love the work that I'm doing to earn an income
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  for our family?
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  Okay.
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  Give yourself permission to ask that question and then recognize if you are in
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  a season of growth and you are asking yourself, did I make it all up?
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  Why is this so hard?
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  Why are we revisiting the same thing?
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  friend, it's because you were called to teach it.
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  Okay, this when my dad was became paralyzed.
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  Someone said to him, your wheelchair will be your pulpit.
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  Our sufferings, our struggles, our losses, these become the place out of which we
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  serve.
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  These become our pulpits built by blood and sweat and tears before the father, but
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  they are
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  founded on the rock.
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  They cannot be shaken because we have seen the face of God in this place.
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  Only where basically the only way out was death.
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  Like I can't survive this.
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  And then we get the resurrection story.
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  The new thing is born.
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  Like we basically have to, we have to die to self where we're in that much
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  struggling.
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  We're in that much suffering.
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  We're in that much pain.
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  Only in that place where we have first died do we actually get the resurrection
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  God.
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  Okay?
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  Things that we do not struggle with, we do not have much to offer.
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  We have strategies, we have concepts, we have theories, but we don't have the
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  crucible forged truths that we can give to people because we've been through the fire
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  and come out on the other side.
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  Like, for example, C .S.
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  Lewis wrote,
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  the problem of pain as a theological treatise around grief and suffering.
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  And then he married his wife, who I believe when they married was already
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  struggling with cancer and they were married for a season and then she passed
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  away.
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  And then he wrote a grief observed.
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  And in the movie, the shadow lands, which details this, this arc of their love
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  story, it talks about,
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  the difference between the two books.
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  How in the one book he thought about pain and the other book he knew pain and he
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  knew the face of God through the pain, through the grief, through the loss.
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  Okay?
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  So two, is this what you can offer to the world when you show up after having been
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  forged in the fire, right?
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  And so allow your...
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  Allow your areas of struggle to kind of like awaken hope in you.
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  It's not proof that you don't know what you're doing.
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  It's proof that he's training you.
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  Like this is the commission.
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  This is the calling.
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  Okay.
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  I remember telling my husband, like I leaving law and coming home.
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  I really wanted to squeeze myself into a tiny little box where I kind of like.
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  cleaned the house and kind of sat on blankets and read stories to the kids and
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  baked fresh bread and did dinner and just was very kind of like meek and mild.
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  It did not work.
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  And I was kind of mad it didn't work.
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  Like I wanted to be Susie Homemaker and like look like the little, I wanted to
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  look like what I thought women of God were supposed to look like.
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  And that wrestle of...
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  How do I be faithful as kind of a little bit of like a tough, strong, intellectual,
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  thoughtful, you know, loving, but kind of like bold in my words, woman of faith?
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  How do I do this well?
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  Because it doesn't look like all the other girls I see in church and I'm kind of mad
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  about it.
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  I want to look like the other ones.
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  And I remember telling him, I was like, I'm going to figure out, I'm going to
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  figure out this Proverbs 31 thing if it kills me.
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  And some days it felt like it was going to, but guess what?
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  Lo and behold, now she considers a field as the rock that I stand on, right?
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  Like this is, this is, well, I stand on the rock of Jesus, but like, this is my
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  platform.
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  This is the thing I have to say to the world is like, yes, women of faith, like
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  you can rise up, you can grow, you can serve from a powerful place.
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  You do not need to shrink back.
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  Please don't, please don't.
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  Yes, we have a call to submit.
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  Yes, we have a call to sit under authority.
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  But we can do so without like squishing ourselves down into little boxes because
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  the kingdom of God needs us.
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  Okay.
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  That was my threshing floor.
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  That was the thing that the Lord was working through, through me.
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  And so it like kept coming up again and again and again.
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  How do I work faithfully?
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  How, how do I work well?
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  And how do I do it as unto the Lord?
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  What is the thing that keeps coming up for you?
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  What is the thing where you're like, again, we're going around this mountain
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  again.
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  Maybe it's financial.
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  Maybe it's marriage, maybe it's children, maybe it's illness, maybe it's, maybe it's
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  mental health, maybe it's, exercise and, and healthy body image.
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  What is the thing that you are like for the love?
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  It's been 30 years.
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  I thought I'd put this thing to bed.
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  Here it is again.
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  You are being trained.
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  This is your commission.
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  Hold hope in that.
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  Do not give up.
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  Turn around and teach wherever you can and know that not.
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  one ounce of this suffering will be wasted.
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  Okay?
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  He is a resurrection father.
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  He is going to bring out in you this ministry and you will look back and you
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  will go, I never would have had this if it hadn't been for all of that struggle and
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  suffering.
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  This is how you come to know the resurrection God in this area and that is
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  what the people need.
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  Okay?
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  That's what I've got for today.
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  I thought I was done at like 10 minutes.
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  You all know me 23.
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  Here we go.
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  Until next time.
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  You got this.
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  Thank you so much for joining us for this episode of She Considered a Field.
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  If you found value in this episode, I would be so grateful if you would leave a
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  review wherever you listen to your podcasts.
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  And be sure to share with a friend who needs some encouragement on her journey
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  today too.
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  Until next time, remember, you've got this because he's got you.