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The Woman Who Is Styling Hollywood's Biggest Stars with Lauren Jeworski · Clyde Confidential

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  Speaker 1: I definitely have had times where I've like spiraled and
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  Speaker 1: like criet on my floor, like we all have, and
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  Speaker 1: we're like I hate everything.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, everyone, welcome back to another episode of Clyde Confidential.
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  Speaker 2: I have my dear friend Lauren Jiwarski here.
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  Speaker 1: Hi. Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 2: She is an amazing talented stylist and we're here to
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  Speaker 2: chat about becoming a stylist and how do you have
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  Speaker 2: style and taste and all those things that some people
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  Speaker 2: just don't have raf the bat, which is why they
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  Speaker 2: needed you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited
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  Speaker 1: to be here. I have been looking forward to this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: me too, I haven't been you see you?
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  Speaker 2: I know when was the last time I saw you.
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  Speaker 1: I saw you when we were volunteering for the fires.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes, thank you for coming to that and thank
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  Speaker 1: you for putting that all together. Megan, You're a beast.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you I jack of all trades.
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  Speaker 2: You really were so helpful actually during that project, because
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  Speaker 2: you got all of the brands to donate and you
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  Speaker 2: rallied all of your stylist friends to help style the
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  Speaker 2: fire victims.
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  Speaker 1: That was really cool. It was a very fulfilling time
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  Speaker 1: and like a difficult period in Los Angeles is obviously
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  Speaker 1: happy to help and you just spearheaded it with no hesitation,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm it was awesome. Thanks girl in the midst
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  Speaker 1: of it all, but yeah, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: But I will say we so we had this studio
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  Speaker 2: and fire victims will come in and they would get
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  Speaker 2: clothing and get to go shopping, but also have a
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  Speaker 2: styling moment with a professional stylist. So that was where
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  Speaker 2: Lauren stepped in with her friends and it just made
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  Speaker 2: it really special for the fire victims. And I always
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  Speaker 2: be grateful to.
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  Speaker 1: That, so of course, because I feel like if you're
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  Speaker 1: losing everything, like you just you want to still feel
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  Speaker 1: put together. So it was nice to be like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: like this shirt goes with these shoes and these pants,
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  Speaker 1: and just like what about this bag. It was just
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  Speaker 1: kind of nice to like, it was really nice to
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  Speaker 1: put together cohesive outfits and just like a little capsule
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  Speaker 1: wardrobe for people in a time of need.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the brands that came through were amazing, amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I remember we had an entire rack of brand new
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  Speaker 2: stawed items and that for sure was not my doing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because you guys were working across the street in was
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  Speaker 2: it Jordan's office.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jordan Grossman, who works for Elizabeth Stewart, who is
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  Speaker 1: an amazing SILASCE in Los Angeles. And Jordan's also an
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  Speaker 1: amazing silust herself. She has this place called Clothed, which
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  Speaker 1: is where we go to like rent clothes for carpets.
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  Speaker 1: They have a lot of archival. But she really got
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  Speaker 1: like she closed down her office for like two weeks,
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  Speaker 1: I think three weeks. Every girl that she employs continued
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  Speaker 1: to pay to then like work towards fire relief and
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  Speaker 1: like get brands. They also had to pop up themselves
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  Speaker 1: where I helped, and I think it was just she's
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  Speaker 1: incredible and I helped with her as well, but she's
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  Speaker 1: just like she really stepped into.
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  Speaker 2: And that operation was crazy. And it was right across
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  Speaker 2: the street from from her.
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  Speaker 1: There was a lot of back and forth going on
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  Speaker 1: m just like it was. I could see from Clothed,
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  Speaker 1: you can see CBS, which is where you were.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, well thank you again. And I can't
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  Speaker 2: believe I haven't seen you since I Genuary fat end
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  Speaker 2: of generally.
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  Speaker 1: It's been too long.
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  Speaker 2: It's been too long, But yet here you are on
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  Speaker 2: my couch matching.
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  Speaker 1: Out and we're matching. Honestly, when you walk in the door,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, honestly, this is kind of perfect. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: we like we have to embrace it moment for the red.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what red am I wearing? I'm you're in.
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  Speaker 1: Like a more fluorescent rad I would say mine's like
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  Speaker 1: a deeper almost. I don't want to say it's not raspberry,
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  Speaker 1: but it's like a really deep cherry, and you're more
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  Speaker 1: like true cherry.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean this is definitely a go too
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  Speaker 2: outphit of mine. If I'm being honest, I believe my
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  Speaker 2: sweater is lalen.
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  Speaker 1: I was my pants are l'alen. Yeah. Love, Like I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I don't know about you, but like because
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing so many things in a day, Like when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to my outflets, I don't evening time. I
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  Speaker 1: have more like statement pieces where I like dress up,
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  Speaker 1: but my day to day wardrobe is like kind of
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  Speaker 1: the same. Like I have a uniform, like I'm either
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  Speaker 1: wearing a jean or a pant like this or a
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  Speaker 1: silk pant, a sweater, T shirt. It's not really complicated,
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  Speaker 1: but I like like around with color a little because
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  Speaker 1: yeah or else it gets like a little boring.
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  Speaker 2: That feels important. My day to day is probably really
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  Speaker 2: different than your day to day because I work from home,
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  Speaker 2: so I look legit homeless, and my team will come
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  Speaker 2: over and I will be in a full sweat sued
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  Speaker 2: outfit or workout clothes. But when we started to go
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  Speaker 2: around the corner to Samson day to do work during
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  Speaker 2: the day, and then I will put it on an outfit.
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  Speaker 2: But for the most of the time, you know, very
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  Speaker 2: scary fits over here.
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  Speaker 1: If it makes you feel any better. I used to
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  Speaker 1: work out of my apartment in Beverly Hills, but now
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  Speaker 1: I have a studio that I share with another stylist
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  Speaker 1: on Wilsher, And when the girls used to come to
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  Speaker 1: my house in the morning, I would like still be
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  Speaker 1: in my pajamas and I'd be like sorry, like I'm
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  Speaker 1: like not dressed up yet. But now that I have
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  Speaker 1: to go into my studio, I feel a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more pressure to be a little bit more polished.
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  Speaker 2: But it also motivates me when I have a good
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  Speaker 2: outfit on, when I put on something I feel good
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  Speaker 2: in and I actually, you know, she's giving business instead
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  Speaker 2: of homeless. It's just it's it makes me feel more motivated,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm trying to think better about it. And it's
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  Speaker 2: funny because they feel like when I'm in New York,
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  Speaker 2: without a doubt, I always put on a new outfit,
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  Speaker 2: and whether that's walking the dogs, are going to get coffee,
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  Speaker 2: or going to dinner.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just in a totally different wardrobe than LA. But
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  Speaker 1: I miss I wish I could people in l I
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  Speaker 1: don't really dress up. It's more like functional. You're running around,
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  Speaker 1: you're hopping in your car. We're like in New York.
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  Speaker 1: Because you're walking around, you're going to be seen. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Like so you're interacting with people or you might see
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  Speaker 1: someone you know where, Like we like leave our house
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  Speaker 1: or apartment and we get in the car and then
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  Speaker 1: we go to the destination and your chances of running
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  Speaker 1: into people you know are really limited, Whereas in New
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  Speaker 1: York it's kind of like seen and be seen, Like
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  Speaker 1: you know, It's just it's a different beast. But I
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  Speaker 1: feel like every time I'm in New York, too, I'm
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  Speaker 1: like my best version of myself when it comes to dressing.
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  Speaker 1: Am I too.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be caught dead in half of the should
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  Speaker 2: I wear here. I don't bring my sweatsnaps to New
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  Speaker 2: York when I go back.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're like, you don't wear sweatpants. I don't work.
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  Speaker 1: I guess if I'm working out there, But like I
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  Speaker 1: you don't wear leggings outside of working out, Like everything
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  Speaker 1: is an outfit even when it's freezing. Yeah, like I
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  Speaker 1: still have to look good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when it's freezing, I won't be there.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I wear my like heat tech from Unique Low,
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  Speaker 1: which is like my life hack. It's like twelve fifteen dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really, it keeps you really warm. Okay, good to
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  Speaker 1: know for when I don't go back to New York.
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  Speaker 1: We need to do. Yeah, but maybe I'll go to
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  Speaker 1: Aspin or something. I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I wish I could skate.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so bad. Okay, do you ski? No? Definitely not.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have to dress any of your clients for
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  Speaker 1: ski season? How does that work? I have in the past.
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  Speaker 1: I've dressed clients for anything you could probably ever imagine.
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  Speaker 1: I've done newborn photo shoots, like I've dressed babies. I've
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  Speaker 1: dressed people for the snow, I've dressed them for yachts.
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  Speaker 1: I've dressed them for planes. I've dressed them for bot, Mitzvazz,
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  Speaker 1: you know, anything you can think of, I've probably done it.
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  Speaker 1: No way. Yeah, I actually did have a client last year.
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  Speaker 1: She and her sister. They're super sweet. One of the
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  Speaker 1: sisters I've never even met. We work virtually, and the
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  Speaker 1: other girl lives in Newport Beach and I think just
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  Speaker 1: moved to Texas. But they went on a ski trip
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  Speaker 1: to Vail. So I this one sister found an outfit
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  Speaker 1: that she really liked with the other didn'ts Then I
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  Speaker 1: helped find everything from ski suits to like dinner outfits. Wow. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's really fun. It's so fun.
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  Speaker 2: What about the holidays? What about Halloween which is coming up?
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  Speaker 1: Halloween, I'm doing sixteen costumes, which is kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Last year I think I only did four, so this
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  Speaker 1: is definitely a big jump. Wow. But one of my
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  Speaker 1: clients is doing a huge project where he himself needs
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  Speaker 1: thirteen costumes. He's streaming between Twitch and TikTok every day
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  Speaker 1: leading up to Halloween. So what is Twitch? It's like
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  Speaker 1: a streaming service where you subscribe and then people I've
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  Speaker 1: never I'm not a participant, Yeah, but I have been
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  Speaker 1: in a live stream that he's done for a fitting,
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  Speaker 1: so I kind of got an understanding of it. But
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  Speaker 1: it's basically just someone on his team recording him and
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  Speaker 1: his friends. And I think it's like a new thing
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  Speaker 1: that the kids are doing, but I'm too old to understand.
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  Speaker 2: I mean literally, I have no idea anything else. They
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  Speaker 2: just got on TikTok recently, which weird of me, but.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm on TikTok. You know what. I post my
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  Speaker 1: outfits on TikTok because it helps me get dressed up
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  Speaker 1: every day. If not, I will stay in the sweatpants.
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  Speaker 2: If I start doing that, people would be like, please stop.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and people bring it up to me in person, though,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm like, let's not talk about this, Like this
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  Speaker 1: is for like strangers, this is not for my friends.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, we don't hate. You've got to build your brand. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but it's fun and it helps like me be accountable,
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  Speaker 1: to be like, you wear clothes that you buy. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I also like that I wore this in a
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  Speaker 1: TikTok two weeks ago and I was like, great, I
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  Speaker 1: have Megan's podcast. I know what I'm gonna wear. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to reinvent the wheel every day I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like she might be wearing red, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna wear.
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  Speaker 1: Red too, spidy senses. But that happens to me a lot,
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  Speaker 1: like I accidentally dress the way like the person I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be with dresses. That's so I just like don't
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  Speaker 1: even realize you like acclimate to whatever they're doing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe it's also because we're going to the same place.
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  Speaker 1: And then it's like maybe someone I either style, so
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  Speaker 1: like I've taught them to be like that to not
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  Speaker 1: with you, but like this is just a pear.
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  Speaker 2: Well I do want you to Yeah, we're done here,
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  Speaker 2: come into my closet. I want to let what we
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  Speaker 2: used to do is is for some of my own bosses,
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  Speaker 2: they would have their stylists go through their closet and
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  Speaker 2: look at all of their existing clothes before.
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  Speaker 1: They decide to do a shop and make outfits with
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  Speaker 1: their existing clothes, just to sort of you know. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I do that smart. I have like two different
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  Speaker 1: kinds of clientele, Like I have my personal shopping, personal
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  Speaker 1: styling clients and then I have red carpet celebrities. So
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  Speaker 1: with the more person and some of my personal clients
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  Speaker 1: are also celebrity, but it's just more like on the loan,
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  Speaker 1: no one knows they even work with them, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't share that I work with them like people and
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  Speaker 1: like certain people know that I work with them, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't like advertise that I work with them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: which is kind of fun. But I go through their
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  Speaker 1: closet and we just like basically put together outfits and
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  Speaker 1: we do a lot of flat light photos or we
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  Speaker 1: do a fitting and we try things on. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't like to buy. If I'm doing a closet buy,
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  Speaker 1: I don't like to buy until I know what they
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  Speaker 1: have because that doesn't it identifies what we actually need
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  Speaker 1: right and what's lacking. And I kind of talk through
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  Speaker 1: like lifestyle, like for you, I would ask you, like
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  Speaker 1: what do you do every day you're looking at? I said,
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  Speaker 1: here with my lap desk, and I do work on
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  Speaker 1: my couch. Yeah great, but like that would all kidding.
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  Speaker 1: I know you don't, but like I would ask people, like,
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  Speaker 1: what are your top five activities that you do the
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  Speaker 1: most right, Like are do you You're like, Oh, I go
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  Speaker 1: to bars instead of dinner, or I go to shows,
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  Speaker 1: or I travel all the time, Like okay, Like if
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  Speaker 1: you're traveling, what cities do you go to the most,
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  Speaker 1: because like that, Also if you never go to a
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  Speaker 1: cold climate wide do we have twenty coats like right?
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  Speaker 2: That means you help with closet purging too, yes?
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  Speaker 1: And are you a real real girly or do you
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  Speaker 1: do pashmark or real real girly? Through and through? I agree,
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  Speaker 1: it's easy. It's so easy, and if you start to
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  Speaker 1: pick up how the website works, you can find really
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  Speaker 1: good things.
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  Speaker 2: I have bought crazy things on there with tags ye
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  Speaker 2: grow why itself? Yeah, it's it makes it cult for
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  Speaker 2: me to pull the trigger on a on a totally
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  Speaker 2: full price item and less.
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  Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with it unless of the real, real.
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  Speaker 2: Even sunglasses. I go on there and I see, I'll
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  Speaker 2: go into a sunglass shop five hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Go on the real real, same withy dollars. Give it
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  Speaker 1: a little clean yeah, same thing brand. Now it's really hard, totally.
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  Speaker 1: I just bought a tom Ford suede pencil skirt and
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  Speaker 1: chocolate brown and it's like from mainline and it was
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty dollars. That's crazy, that's cuckoo. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's so pretty. I bought it last night, and I
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  Speaker 1: actually just had a fitting this morning. And we do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of real, real shopping for this client. And
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  Speaker 1: I got her this Korage dress and now we're having
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  Speaker 1: tailor just to make it like feel a little more modern.
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  Speaker 1: But it was vintage two hundred dollars, whereas like that's
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  Speaker 1: like less than reformation, you know, So it's like if
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  Speaker 1: you give it a little I don't know, if you
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  Speaker 1: just take the time to be a little love. Yeah.
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: Do you do a lot of your sourcing, how do
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  Speaker 1: you source and do you use the real reel a
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  Speaker 1: lot for sourcing? I guess I do for a specific clients,
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  Speaker 1: like my client Jesse, who I was just with. She
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  Speaker 1: and I do a lot of real reel because I
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  Speaker 1: also know what she loves. That like, I can bring
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  Speaker 1: a rack and unfortunately for her, she'll want to buy
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  Speaker 1: everything on that rack. Because I do a lot of
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  Speaker 1: real reel, I do vintage, we also mix it with
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  Speaker 1: like some more modern or designer and I also work
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  Speaker 1: with her very frequently that I'm like, oh, this totem
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  Speaker 1: dress we got on the reel reel it goes really
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: well with that totem dress you got e totem coat
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  Speaker 1: you bought on net on the sale over the summer,
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  Speaker 1: and then now we have an outfit. So it's nice
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  Speaker 1: when I get to have longevity with clients because I
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  Speaker 1: can really understand, yeah, what they have and like making
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  Speaker 1: the most of their wardrobe or like thinking into their
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  Speaker 1: next year, like you always go to Can, like this
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  Speaker 1: dress you're gonna wear in Paris for this panel also
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  Speaker 1: is gonna work for you? And can? And how far
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  Speaker 1: in advance do you do your sourcing?
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  Speaker 2: So let's say there's I mean, obviously award season is
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  Speaker 2: just starting, which is probably your craziest time of year.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy, Yeah are you? How are you doing well? It
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  Speaker 1: depends on Like, for something that I had this morning,
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  Speaker 1: I've known about it for a week, so I the
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  Speaker 1: box actually came late. And sometimes if a box comes late,
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  Speaker 1: I just let it go and I'm like it didn't
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  Speaker 1: make it. But in this box, in particular, I knew
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  Speaker 1: the winner was in there, and I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: have to come back today, Like we had our fitting
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesday two hours and I was like, it's still
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  Speaker 1: worth it for me because I know the dresser you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna want is in this box. And I was right
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  Speaker 1: so it depends on like when you have that synchronicity
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  Speaker 1: with a client, like I can. I showed her photos too,
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  Speaker 1: and she's like one hundred percent, like yeah, you're correct,
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I usually get like a week only no
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  Speaker 1: way unless it's like a big awards scaled Oscar is
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  Speaker 1: even well for Oscar. There's certain things during the year
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  Speaker 1: where I'm like, I know the Oscars are happening. I know,
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  Speaker 1: like Globes obviously, Emmy's, you know, all the big ones.
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  Speaker 1: But sometimes they don't know if my client is going
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  Speaker 1: or not. Sometimes they'll get a last minute invite, So
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of depends.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, that is so successful. I can't even imagine
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  Speaker 2: doing that in one week.
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  Speaker 1: What about get custom stuff for custom dresses that you
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  Speaker 1: work with that you know ahead of time, Like when
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  Speaker 1: I was really working with Kate a lot, like she
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  Speaker 1: would understand which clients were nominated, which we're probably going
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  Speaker 1: to get nominated. It's a lot of clients of don't
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  Speaker 1: want to see custom until they have the nomination in
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  Speaker 1: like it's like a little bit taboo for them brand
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  Speaker 1: probably obviously, but yeah, like they some some know or
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  Speaker 1: like well are willing to take a chance but some
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: are like I don't want to look at that gown
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: until like I know I'm going, which makes sense, Like
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: they don't want to it's like a little superstition and yeah,
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: yeah that makes total sense to me. Yeah, but for awards,
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: you definitely need to like have a plan, and it
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: also requires having a good assistant that like looks at
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: the calendar to be like, hey, this is not like
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: we don't have something slated for this, this, and this,
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: or like we only have one option and she's not
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: sure of it. So having a team of people that
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: understand the entire schedule, how the clients are feeling, communicating
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: with their teams if things need to pivot, you have
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: like at the end of the day, being a stylist
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: is like a service job. So if your client isn't satisfied,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: you're not doing your job well. Like you can think
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: you're doing your job well, but if my client's not happy,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing my job well, right, And so do they.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Let you know, how does that go if a client
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: isn't happy with you, let's say yeah, or do they
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: usually does it happen in the fitting? Does it happen
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: after the fitting? Do they ask for more options. Have
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: you ever had a moment of like, oh.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Shit, I've never had to send a client down a
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: carpet naked, so I would say that's good. But there's
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: definitely been some last minute changes where you have to
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: make adjustments. But I would say I with my clients,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: like I try to just be like I have a
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: conversation to be like, you're never gonna offend me, Like
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: my job is to make you happy, and also like
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: to creatively collaborate and obviously like I'm always going to
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: have a vision, and like I prefer if a client
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: like listens to my feedback, but if you're not happy,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: like I want you to feel comfortable enough to tell me,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: whether that's in a fitting, whether that's sending me a
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: text after a fitting, whether like I prefer to come
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: from my client and like a team member of theirs,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: because I'm like then it gets like a little I'm
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: just like let's talk, right and like then we'll get
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: to the solution. Like that's kind of my approach. I'm like,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I won't get offended. Like sometimes it makes my life
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: crazy personally, yeah, but it's not personal and like in
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: the end, we always get there. So I wouldn't say
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I've had a lot of like last minute changes, but
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: like I feel like opening the door for that communication
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: helps because I don't want to be like a scary
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: stylist that you can't approach, Like I am a stylist
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: and I want you to respect me, but I don't
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: want to be unapproachable.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I think you're very approachable. I can't imagine anyone being
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: afraid to approach you about something.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I can also have some a client
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: though put something on and I hate it, Like I
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: will tell you, okay, yeah, how do you go about that?
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: If let's say one of your clients is really into
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: a brand or really into an outfit and in your
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: head you think, oh my god, you really can't wear that.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: How do you manage that? Sometimes I let them learn
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: their lastson and like I will tell them like I'll
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: never I'm not. I'm nice, but I'm also like very honest,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: like my mom always used to say, and she still does,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: like say what you mean, but don't say it means
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: so like I will like do a delicate dance around,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: like I'll either it depends on the client. Some I'll
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: just be like I hate that, Like this is not right,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: and Sam, I'll just like and it'll open up a
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: conversation of like this is why I don't like it
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: if they're really loving it and I really don't like it.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, like again, like
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I want them to be happy, but like I if
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I think you look bad, like I'm doing a disservice
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: and like you're hiring me also for like my honesty
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: and like my solicited opinion, right, so I don't want
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: you to like get bad feedback, but like you're there
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: for yeah. So it's like it's a delicate dance of
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: doing it in a way that's like not rude but
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: also being super honest. And sometimes like I make a
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: joke of it, like I'm just like ooh, this's like
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: you know, like we they can do better. Yeah, Like
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: and sometimes it's a matter of just saying we can
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: do better and like sending like a heart a mode,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, or like like little angel
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: like sorry, yeah, like I hate it, yeah yeah, like
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: you know, just like he he. So I try to
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: do it light and like I try to make it's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: obviously serious in one on one hand, but it's also
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: like a fun it should be fun. Yeah, so yeah,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: but I don't feel scared to tell someone. But there
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: has been moments where someone has worn something and like,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: if it really gets to a point where I'm like
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: they shouldn't wear this, I'll call a publicist and be
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: like I need support. And sometimes like there's been times
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: where we've just let them do it and then they
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: come back and they're like, you were right, I shouldn't
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: have worn that, and I'm like, I know, but sometimes
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: people have to get there on their own. Yeah, but
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I won't just like sit there and say like, yeah,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: totally wear that and like make them look like an idiot.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: It's also like knowing where they're going, who's attending, are
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: their voters there are is it fashion editors? Like who
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: is in the room also dictates like a little bit
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: of how I have trus my clients and.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: How do you manage if you have a bunch of clients.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Let's say you have a bunch of female actresses in
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: their thirties and there's a couple of brand that you
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: probably have your eye on. How do you decide who
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: gets the first pick of an outfit or who gets
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: what outfit? And how do you distribute between your clients
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: with you know, maybe there's only a certain number of
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: hot brands out at that time or trends. How do
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: you do that? I wouldn't be able to do that
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: because I would just want to send everyone the same thing.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: But how do you curate these things and make each
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: client feel really special with maybe I know, if it's
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: a limited quantity of stuff or just because I'm sure
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: every stylist is trying to get that thing for their client,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: But how do you do that? I am so curious.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I approach every client differently. They all are different people,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: they have different bodies, they have different maybe they're on
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: different shows, they're at different levels of fame there, it
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: just depends. Each client is different. So like usually if
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I'm showing one client something like I'm not showing it
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: to another client, like that rack is going back and
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: then for the next client, like we're pulling a fresh rack.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: There's like maybe coats, like I'll carry over shoes that
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I like because that like more my taste, right, Like
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: that's not like as specific to like a client, but
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: like sometimes we pull thirty shoes and if I'm seeing
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: someone the next day the same size, like I'm carrying
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the shoes over totally, but like the maybe like a
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: coat or something like a layering piece or like a
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: total neck. But no, like gowns or anything, are like
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: one client to the next for right, I just like
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I get to know them. I learn
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: also to like I'll dress an actress differently than I
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: dress a producer or like an editor. I dressed an
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: editor that won an Oscar, and that was really cool
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: because she was on stage, but like we talked, I
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: would never I liked that dress, but I don't know
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: if it would have been a fit for an actress client.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: And like we talked about that, it's like how do
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: we take up space and like feel like we're in
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the right room and like that you don't have to
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: back down because you're an ad Like she didn't want
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to take up too much. I don't know, didn't want
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to steal someone's thunder steel sound thunder, but she's still
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is still your moment as well,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Like she literally won an Oscar and I wanted her
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: to feel confident and appropriate for that, but like it
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: may not be a dress I would put on an
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: actress that was nominated for Best actress just because like
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that person will want to like really like steal the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: show that evening. So it's just different. And in terms
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: of stealing the show, remember what was that magazine that
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: used to do?
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Who were it best?
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: You remember when we were growing up? Or is that
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't read that stuff anymore. Well
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I heard it, okay, or one of those yeah, like
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: us are okay? Yeah, one of the trash she wears
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: that we all love And does that still exist and
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: are they still doing that? And and our celebrities.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: On the carpet, what are the chances of someone wearing
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: the same piece if it's from Well that's why like
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: we like to pull from like far away collections because
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: they're not sold in stores.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: You get into that, you run a risk, Like if
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: you and I were going to a wedding and we
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: clearly show up in the same sweater, there's a chance
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: we might buy the same road Arta dress, or you
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: actually have a road artay dress that I have, which
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: one I think it's like white and floral, or maybe
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: we have one dress that's the same for sure, Oh
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I know, would just we have the same that blue
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: cat dress with the necktie we probably have a few
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: things the same. I bought it in the navy blue too,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: but like the we might wear that to a wedding
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: and be in the same because it's sold on retailers.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: So where we have an advantage for our clients is
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: that we get to pull things that are like one
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: of one's in that moment of time. So the likelihood
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: of someone wearing the same one is very low unless
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: you are buying archive pieces, yeah, or just even new
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: collections that are not sold yet. So part of the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: purpose of like what celebrity styling is too is obviously
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: to make them look great. But for the brands, why
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: they do it for free for the most part is
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: it gets them advertising like it's seen on you know,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: name your favorite actress, and that will open up people
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: seeing the brand, excited about the brand, excited for new
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: collections of course.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: And do you go to fashion shows and scope out
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: new collections? How big is does that play a role
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: in your job?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I stay away from fashion Week. I've been before when
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I was an assistant. I've been to a few shows,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: But what happens is happening this week actually is a
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: lot of the brands will then come to La so
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday, I had a Botaga preview. Tonight, I'm going
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: to see the Versace collection, even just like smaller brands
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: like Nillie Latanner in town. Coach was just in town,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: so I kind of preview it that way. But I
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: do love to touch and feel the pieces. I like
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: to see it in movement as well, Like if I
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: can see it on a body, it's so helpful because
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: that is so important for my job, because like these
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: people are not just like photographs. They're videoed in from
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: every angle now with social media, so it's a lot
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: of pressure. Right, I want to see how a dress moves,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: not just how it stands on a model. Yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: That's such a good point.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it also makes the dress come alive. Yeah.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Like if you can't move in a pencil skirt, yeah
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: you're tom Ford pencil skirt.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I actually couldn't, And I sat down at dinner last
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: night and I was like, oh, it was a standing
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: dread stand. Yeah, But I was like, for Tom, of course,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I'll be a little uncomfortable tonight.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, of course.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Yes. But before I drove home, I went up into
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: my studio and put pants on. I was like, I
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: cannot drive home. That is so funny. Yeah, I could not.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Men have no idea. Yeah, it's so being a woman.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: No, the things that they don't know.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: But they throw on the same pair of slacks and
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: shirt and we are, you know, sourcing and yeah the
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: real My boyfriend, God bless his soul, and he wouldn't
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: mind that I share this. He has four not for
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: financial reasons. He has four pairs of pants, he has
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: three button downs. He has five white T shirts, he
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: has a black T shirt, he has a gray T shirt.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I think we're up to like six jackets and like
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: five pairs of shoes.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: And that's all. Like his closet and my clothest could
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: not look more differently. I can't even his closet is
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: here and mine is here. There's two different bedrooms. He
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: actually mine is bigger. I took the guest bedroom closet
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: because and now I have like a mirror in there.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I'm like the unfortunately, like the whole guest bedroom is
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: becoming my closet. Yeah that he has a big closet,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: but it's like militantly organized, and it's like there's like
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: this much space between each hangar and I might couldn't
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: be me like opposites the tract truly, but he like
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: he does not like make me. He makes me more
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: thoughtful about what I like. Not because he's forcing me to, yeah,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: but just because I'm like, damn, like I am so different,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Like I have fifty pairs of shoes. Yeah, I'm estimating.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I mean want to understand him a little because as
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I get older, I've stopped buying patterns.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: And I do kind of have Yeah. I'm like, yeah,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I've got the jeans, the white T shirt, the sweater. Yeah,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I do call the color now, but it's just like more.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I'm still going to buy a lot of dresses and.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Do all the things. Totally.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of shoes.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna have five shoes, but I've steered away.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I do have like my five go toos. Yeah, I
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: don't know what they are. Let's talk about that.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: So Okay. I think style, hear me out. I think
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: it's something you're born with. I think you cannot be taught.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I think you can be taught a little bit, but
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: you all, you can have a really good stylist, but
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: you also have to like know what's up.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think your taste can evolve, but like style
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: is something you either have or you don't correct but
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: like you.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Can really have the eye and you're helping other people
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: you know, discover their own eye and put cool brands
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: in front of them. How do you know truly what
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: to wear? Also in our industry, when you're with a
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: client and you're going to an event or you're in
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: their home, totally, how the hell do you know what
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: to wear and what are your go tos?
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: It's something like the easy I mean, like the unfortunate
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: answer is like I don't think about it that much.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Like I just like cool girl. She doesn't thinks she's
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: so I'm so cool. But I definitely have had times
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: where I've like spiraled and like cried it on my floor,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: like we all have, and we're like I hate everything.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: But for the most part, like it's just like something
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: that does come naturally. So like I feel really lucky
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: and like to your point, like I feel like taste
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: has evolved over time and like I continue to refine
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: my eye and notice things and get better at my job.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: But I would say like when I go to my
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: client's house, I'm probably like the least fashionable one they're
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: like I always try to be like cute, but I'm
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: not the best dressed in the room in those moments.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I don't know how to make other
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: people the best dressed, but that's just not really my
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like schlepping garment bags, I have rocks like I'm
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: generally in a flat i'm running around, I always wear
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: like a pant. I have these pants from the Lean
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: and two colors black.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Is that the Celia pant?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Uh? Colby? Oh? Sorry, the cold pant? Okay, I'm right now.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I'm on the wait list for the Colby pants in brown.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I have to Yeah, now I'm gonna I have that
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: exact color. It's the best, so good. So I wear
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: these a lot to go see clients, like especially I'm
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: wearing a little heel today, not really recommended for a stylist,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: but I needed to because these pants are too long
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and I haven't had time to get them hemmed. No,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: it's a great outfit. But yeah, I wear like a
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: version of this every day. And when it's hot, like,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I just wear no sweater. But I generally don't wear
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: shorts to work. I don't wear dresses. It's just not
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: my moment. Like I have moments that are my moment,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: and like I don't need to be just like I
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: don't need to always fade into the background. But like
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: when you're in a room with talent, like there's one
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: talent and it's not about me, and like I'm generally
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: there to do my job, so like I don't think
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: that much about my outfit in those moments. I think
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: that's such a good point.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: When you're you don't want to steal a show or
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: draw too much attention to yourself because you are there
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: to do your job. Same goes for assisting. Whenever I
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: would be out with one of my bosses, I'd be
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: in all black. Yeah that black is a good you're
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the last person who matters, but I would I always
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: struggled with what to wear because you could be at
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: a meeting and then as the assistant, you don't get
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: to change.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: You get one outfit for the whole day.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: So you're in a meeting and then you're going through
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: boss somewhere and then you guys are going to an event.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: So finding something that you can go day to night
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: and I literally eight am to eight pm H That
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: was hard for me for a while, but now I
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: have my go tos, like I have my stable black
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: dresses that I've worn through every assistant job I've ever
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: had with my flat pair of shoes.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: But I like a good ballet, flat and low for
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: maybe like a good kitten heel that you can just
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: like throw on and like keep at God like at
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: your boss's house, and like a square of clock, like
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: something you can just like quickly throw on. But generally
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't put on. Like I've gone on work trips
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: with clients and I'm like, why did I bring a heel?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm like, this was not when I
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: was younger.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I worked at Ralphlauren, who was my first amazing I
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: used to dress up and wear heels to work every day,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: And now I honestly think after COVID and just with age,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't mess with heels anymore. I will
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: mess with the kitten heel.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I love a kitten heel. I can't wear
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: a heel like. I injured my back a few like
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: six months ago, which has been interesting for my job
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: because it creat bags. But I have a good team.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: But like your team, who's your team?
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: So Abby is my first assistant She is amazing. Actually,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: the story of how we met is kind of funny
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and like the first job we ever did together could
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: have really been bad, but it was amazing, and I
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: just threw in with the wolves, my normal assistant. You
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: actually just took her from me and paired her with
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Aaron Walsh, but you told me it was okay. I
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: told her. I was like, I couldn't afford to have
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: her full time yet, so I was like I was no, no, no,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, Carlin is great. Who. I
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: actually had dinner with Carlin last night. Love her. I
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: was like I was seeing Megan tomorrow. She's a cute girl.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: She's the sweetest. But when she left, I was kind
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: of inn a piccle and it was right before the holiday,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: so I was like, I'll just figure it out, like
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: come January. Then I got asked to style Margot, Robbie's
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: husband in business partner for the cover of Variety, which
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: was probably like one of my biggest exposures. Probably. I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: remember watching that happen on Instagram and I remember being like,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I just gave Carlin to Aaron. What
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: am I gonna do? So I just like went through
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: my email, and I was like, all these people email
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: me to assist, but I just kind of like I
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: see them and I like it knowledge them, but like
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: most of the time, like my team is set. I
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: have like a few other girls that wrote like Amy
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Claire is helping me today. There's another girl named Andy
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: that helps me. Like I have a few girls. They
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: all start with A if you apparently I just realized
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that hilarious. I have a thing for the a's. What
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: are their I have no idea. Yeah, So Abby had
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: helped me. I was at a personal client's house in
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Santa Monica, and so I had only met her briefly
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: outside to give her a bag to bring back to
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: tom Ford. That was our only interaction. And I was like,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: and Margot was obviously going to be on the shoot
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: as well, So I was like, can you be on
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: set with me that day? Because I was like, I
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: can do all the prep myself. I know how to
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: do that, but I was like, I need extra hands
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: on set because I'm also styling both guys and I
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: She said yes, and she had only been in LA
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: for two weeks and suddenly we're at Warner together and
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: she's in the room and she met Margot and she
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: met the whole crew, like her first two weeks in Hollywood,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: and she was so great. She was so attentive, so helpful.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: You can't teach bedside manners and she had it. And
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: everyone that I've ever introduced her to that also hires
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: her or like any client, she's just like so adored,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Like we just all adore her, but we really like
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I threw in with the Wolves for a cover shoot
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: and she crushed it. And now she's been working with
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: me for like a year and a half. That's amazing. Yeah,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: she's great.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: So you've got her.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: And who else Amy Claire is helping me? She so
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of freelancers. Abby probably works with
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: me at least like half the year, I would say.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: And then Amy Claire helps, Andy helps. I have an
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: agent named Ali, so again another a, this is kind
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: of weird, amazing and what agentsy are you? I'm at
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: the Wall Group? Okay, yeah, which is very exciting, and
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: that they approached me two years ago, but like it
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: officially happened three months ago. Amazing, Ingrat's girl, thank you,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: that's huge. It was a it feels that.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Feels very full circle because you were working with Kate,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: who's represented by the Wall Group, and now you're represented yourself.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, and I do you have a different agent from her.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I like made sure just for myself to be like,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: we never said how we met, by.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: The way, Oh yeah, well we met because you were assistant.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Were you Kate's assistant at the time or you?
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we messed so long ago Jen's house, I think
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: through Kate two thousand and eighteen.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Was that that was the that was?
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: It was right before? Was that upper east side apartment? No,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: in La in l I know, oh in the I
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: remember we were doing a fitting in that room. Yep.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: And you can decide to edit this out or not.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: But the first thing she said to me was I'm pregnant.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, like we have to figure
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: out a way around that. Yep. She was going to
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the Door Show. Oh my god, I remember that.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, that that would have been I mean in like
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: January February, because we were going to the Winter Show
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: in Paris and Door Yeah.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and changed in an outfit. K let's talk about that.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: So being a stylist assistant, you were Kate's assistant at
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: the time, and my boss had just told you something
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: really sensitive obviously that I think you were. You might
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: have been the third person who knows how do you?
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Obviously Kate trusted you or else she wouldn have brought
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: you into that room, but you as a young assistant,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Like obviously you were discreet and all the things, but
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: how do you you know?
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: How are you the way that you are? I guess
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: is what I'm asking.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Jen wouldn't have said that unless she felt like you
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: were a trustworthy person.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: It's just none of my business. Like if a kind
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: is going through a breakup or they're in a new relationship,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: like I like I'll send like say it's like a breakup,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I'll send like a text of support, but I'll never
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: ask any questions. It's not my business. It's just like
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I'm there to do my job. I'm out there to
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: like get the tea or get the gossip, and it's
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: like I don't Yeah, like people will ask me too,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: which is like inappropriate, Like did you hear I'm like,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: if I knew, I wouldn't tell you. Correct, But it's
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: also just not if that's not part of my job. Yeah,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I hear a lot of things, but I kind of
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I hear so much that it's like in one ear
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and out the other with certain things obviously, like someone's
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: like pregnancy, like I take more sensitively than like I
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: don't know what they eat for life or whatever. But
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: like you learn a lot of people's private information and
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: like I keep with that it's private. Yeah. I think
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: it goes back to we trusted Kate and still trust
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Kate Young so much, Charlie, because you were on her team.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: It was sort of this this unspoken thing, Okay, Lauren
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: is a trustworthy person. She can be in the room,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: which then we can talk about whatever and we feel
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: comfortable that she's not going to leave this house and go,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: you know, to TMZ or something. Yeah. And I think
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: probably now that you have your own team, you're really
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: cautious and totally aware of that too, when you're hiring
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: people and knowing that they represent you and if you
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: put them in front of a client, they're going to
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: be appropriate.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel it's like bedside manners that are facing
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: like you need to be. Yeah, you're there to do
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: your job and if you pick up information along the way,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: like just keep it to yourself.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you've heard crazy things in other
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: fittings that are way crazier than that. But yeah, yeah,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: you just have to the client has to feel like
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: you're yeah, that's worthy.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Even like some clients, like half the time, some of
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: my private shopping clients, I did have someone that was
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: married to someone very wealthy, and I didn't know for
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: like eight months. Wow, I just didn't ask. It wasn't
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: my business. Like I could pick up on some social
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: cues and I was curious, but I was just like,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I enjoy working with this person. He's really nice, and
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep doing my job. Yeah, well that's
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: why you're a pro girl. And then he like eventually
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: it just some people are more private.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: But that's also why, like your professional people enjoy working
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: with you, because they know that you've got it on lock,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: and not a lot of people not everyone has it onlock.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I find like the more I don't know,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: not that I'm like, it's just like I want people
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: to come on to me. I remember when I was
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: helping Kate with Selina, Like I was very quiet at
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the beginning, and I'm not necessarily the most quiet person,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: and like finally she like made me laugh and she
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: was like, thank god, we cracked Lauren, you know, and
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I was like, when I leave here, guys like I
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: can't shut up, But like when I'm here, like I'm especially,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I think it's different when you're the stylist for the assistant.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm here to represent my boss and do
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: a good job. Like when I'm doing my own work,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: like I'm a much more chatty, I'm much more personable.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm taking up that space as a stylist.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: But when I'm there, like in a glam to get
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: a client ready, like I barely stay a word. Oh
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: my gosh, you don't know A funny story. One time
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: when I was at Jen's house, the steamer exploded on
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: her shirt and I was like going through looking for
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: uh hair dryer. This is just popping into my head.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I forgot about this completely, and I was I was
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: too nervous to text you. So I literally was like
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: this in the spare bedroom, like the top dried and
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: it all worked out, but like I wouldn't text you.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I was too nervous.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Why.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I was like, oh my god, I
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: know you were, but I was like, oh my gosh,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: it's like my second or third time here, so as
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: you get like nervous, sometimes I have something like a
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: freak cast that's also happened to me. Yeah, it's happened
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: to everyone, and now I like keep a fan in
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: my kit for like those purposes.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: But I was like, steamers are so unreliable, man. I
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: remember I was just like whoa because my Ralph Lauren days,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: She's like, do you know how to steam?
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: And then go to steam? Something water shoots? You put out.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: You're leaving this apartment in ten minutes and I just
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: had the steamer explode.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: On your dress. I forgot that happened, and I didn't
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: say any I like that was one where I was
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: like this, I didn't even tell Kate. I didn't tell anyone.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't tell John, I didn't tell the GLAMs prices averred.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: You fix it.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I fixed it. But sometimes I will say it's better
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: to fix the problem than alert your client and freak
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: them out. I'm really glad you didn't see it, yeah,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: because I feel like if I may have texted you.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll like text it like if I really was screwed,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: it would if there was like less than an hour,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: like if I did the math I was like, we're
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: going to be fine. I just need to sway this
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: shirt back and forth. Hilarious. But if you see even
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: if like I see something on a dress and I'm like,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: it won't pick up on a photo, don't mention it. Yeah, Like,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: if it's huge, obviously say something, because like you want
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: them to trust you, But like, do not present the
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: client with a problem where there is no solution ever.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Hey period. Yeah, Like even for one of the Halloween
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: costumes that I'm doing right now, and the person that
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: was supposed to custom make it as soon as we
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: got the contract thirty minutes later, like something happened and
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the guy that was supposed to do the armor that
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: we're doing not giving away the costume but backed out right.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: So I called his manager and I said, hey, just
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: so you know, the costume designer is having a problem
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: with the guy that's supposed to mold the armor. I'm
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: working on it. I'll figure out a solution. Like I'm
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: not going to bring this to Josh yet. I don't think,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: oh whatever, but like I'm not going to bring this
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: to the client yet, and let's figure it, like all
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: work to figure it out. I joined anime Facebook, groups.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I messaged random men on Instagram. I found a way
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: and the suit is coming to us on Monday. Oh,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: but like I didn't. I found him a different option
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: that was actually cheaper through so I was like I
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: and then I told him, I said. The other person
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: backed out, like here's.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Delivered the information with the solution, yesh.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I think that's key because you don't want to freak
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: them out for sure, because what is that can to
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: do for four days?
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I can choose the inside where you understand that it's
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: dire to give them that unhappy news or.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Totally and those times. But like, yeah, I remember I
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: was in an oscar fitting with a boss's client. This
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: was like twenty eighteen, and I noticed something. I said,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I looked at the dress and I looked at the lining.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I said, that looks strange. Does that look strange to
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: anyone else? And I'm with the designer of the brand,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: mind you, so like I'm maybe twenty five. It's my
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: boss's client and the designer, and like I took that
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: was the moment where I was like, this is where
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: you overstep near your boss's size and ears. Turns out
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the way they sewed the dress, the lining like was
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: not lining up and it would have bunched, and like
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: she thought it was her underwear, and I said, can
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: you please put it on one more time? I don't
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: think that's your underwear And that's kind of like I
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: didn't want to embarrass the designer, but I was like,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: long story short. Her boyfriend at the time ended up
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: winning the Oscar that night, so there's a photograph of
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: her from the back of him kissing her right after
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: he wins the Oscar and the back is smooth. We
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: fixed it, but I was right.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, that must have been kind of scary to
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: speak up at that.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: It was scary, but it was one of those times
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: where I'm like, if I don't, I will loose sleep
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: over this for the next five nights. Totally. I'm like,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: can you just put it on one last time? I
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: just want to double check something. I was like, I
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: don't think it's your underwear, and it wasn't. Hey snaps
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: for Lauren.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: It was a day. But now I was really happy
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: that you said something. And every time I see that photo,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I did good. You did good, kid, you.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Did That's amazing. Was that when you were still Kates assistant.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: That was with Leith Clerk. Okay, so i've i've yeah,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: talked to talk to me about your trajectory. Yes, So
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I got my first job when I was having.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Did you major in fashion?
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: By the way, No. I studied communications at Chapman University,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: and I took some media classes, some leadership classes. But
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: two and a half years in I honestly wanted to leave.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is not for me. I don't
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: think I'm meant for regular, Like I'm not meant for school.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: So I laughed, and I went to New York to
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: look at FT and immediately upon touring, within thirty minutes,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is also not for me.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: So I left, like any good person with you, and
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I went to Chipriani to get a ballini and apasta. Yeah,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: And I sat there and the guy was dating at
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: the time had left, so I was alone and I
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: was like, whatever, I'll just sit here and have pasta.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: And this guy two tables over, he like was wearing
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Celean sunglasses. I complimented his sunglasses. I said, I love
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: your glasses. He's like thanks, and then he complimented my
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: shirt and then we kind of he was with like
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: these women. We kind of started chatting and he owned
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: a magazine in LA at the time, and I just said, oh,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: that's crazy, Like I'm out here looking at FT. But
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I decided it's not for me. And he lived in
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: LA and he took my phone number and then he
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: interviewed me on the phone and then I became his assistant.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: And I called my mom and I was like, Mom,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I got a job, and she was like, in New York.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, La. She's like, aren't you in
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: New York looking at school? I was like, yeah, I
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: met someone at lunch and she's like, you are crazy,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: and I was like, I told him I live in LA.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I was living in Orange County at the time, which
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: anyone that is in LA knows that's not LA. And
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I wanted to take I asked my mom if I
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: could take a leave from school for six months to
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: work for him, and if it didn't work out, I
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: would go back to school and if it worked out,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: then I would keep working for him. And I worked
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: for him for eighteen months and I still went back
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: to school. And during that time, I started interning for
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: stylists for PR firms, just making sure I learned every
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: realm of the industry before I landed on styling, because
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: there will be moments in this career where you will
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: question everything. Yep. And I know that. I tried working
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: for a magazine. I wrote for that man's magazine. His
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: name is Derek. I worked in pr and I worked
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: in styling, And as soon as I landed on styling,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I was like this and also watching Rachel Show's show
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: back in the day, so cool, so yeah, And then
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I worked for I went back to school graduated after that.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: But I did take a year off and I worked
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: and I learned as much as I could. And then
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: when I went back to school, I was more focused
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: on like the classes I wanted to take in order
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: to execute my career. And I started working for Brad
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Gereski during awards season. It was a crazy time to
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: start a full time job.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Get right over to the fire.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because those people may not know this, but like
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: right after New Year's the globes of the first weekend,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: so in silent, it's really crazy. It's crazy. It is crazy,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: and I think that needs to change. By the way,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: like I will start a petition on change dot org
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: for all of us can we just like push it
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: to the second weekend. Why it's actually nuts because everyone
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: is chilling on holiday break with their families, not on
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: their and then you just get smacked.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I this year got a client the first day of
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: break for Globes, which is like in this year, I
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: think New Year's Day was on the first or something.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: So basically I met her and fit her for the
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Globes on Saturday and the event was I.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Was actually looking at counter It Steal eleventh this year,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: which okay, I feel a little feels like a little
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: bit further, but still feels kind.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Of yeah, crazy, It's just crazy, yeah everywhere.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: How do you manage that though?
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Because you have to do final fittings right after the holidays,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: people are checked out.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: How do you get answers? How do you get things done?
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Is there ever enough time?
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Some brands, and I do feel kind of bad for
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: them do open up between Christmas in New Year's but
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: like I feel like that's not fair, Like they should
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: be able to everyone in this industry. Whatever side you're on,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: like works so hard. Yeah, and then I'm like, give
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: these people a break, like, but some people are prepping
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: for rewards, so I it depends, like if it's a client.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Some people fit before the holidays, some people can't because
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: clients are on projects, they're filming, they're on vacation, whatever.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: It may be a lot of like our schedule revolves
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: around theirs. But then if you have multiple clients, it's
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: like a you're just trying to make it all work
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: all the time. They're just trying to survive away season,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: just trying to say.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Globes and then Oscars obviously, is there anything
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: else the spring that you are working there?
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: There's also I always have a client usually that goes
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: to the Indie Spirit Awards because she's a producer. She
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: works for it's called Pinky Promise and she produces for
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Sophia Coppola, Scarlett Johansson. She's like a forest and she's
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: now a friend and I love her well. But she
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: usually goes to a lot of the awards shows that
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: like Indie Spirit she's gone to for the past two
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: or three years.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: So that's by far just your busiest time of year generally.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but apparently Halloween is too. Yeah.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, so sixteen sixteen outfits. Yeah, you work with specific
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Halloween designers. How do you find those people.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Do do any of those rental shops or is it
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: really just all custom? So there's a few places in
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: LA that are like four movies that are rentals, where
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: like you have to be a stylist or a costumer
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: to go in, Like I have gone there for some
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: pieces for costumes. Some of it is coming from China,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Like I've never ordered from Ali Express before but never
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: say never, Wow, and then it comes and it looks
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: to really different. But that's a whole other thing. Some
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: stuff comes from eBay, some stuff comes from costume designers,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: some comes from s Etsy. You just like it's like
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: hustle scrappy mode. Like I messaged a guy on TikTok
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: to make me like a bracelet for this anime character
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: because he had one, and I was like this, like cool.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: So I messaged him and he was like, I'll do
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: it for forty five. I was like, I'll give you eighty.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I was like I need it by Friday, please help me. Wow. Yeah,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: so cool. It was like you just get it together
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: and do.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: The clients that are having you dress them for Halloween
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: and help with their outfits.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Is this an.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Annual request or is this new? When did you start
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: offering adding this.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Time, I didn't know I offered it. It was news
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: to me that I offered it. But I also love
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: my clients and like I want to like ride the
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: wave whatever their projects are. Like, I also dressed one
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: of my clients. Well I don't know what ended up happening,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: but I helped him concept ideas. He's going to be
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: in a movie and he has a costume designer there.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: But like we sat and we chatted and we did
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: a fitting for that movie, even though I'm not on costume,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: but just like that's so cool. Yeah, he took some
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: pieces that are I we put together that are going
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: to be in the movie. Now that's cool. But I
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: just like to do whatever.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I like the woman who wears many many hats.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, yes, And how many clients are you working with currently?
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't know the answer. I've
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: never counted. That doesn't mean it's so many. I like
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: to keep my list a little tighter than others because
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: like I'm so involved, Like even if an assistant goes
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: because I can't obviously always be everywhere at once, but
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: I am doing the request. I'm picking the pieces I'm
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: giving it like every piece of my heart. So I
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: don't want to be so spread then that my work
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: becomes sloppy, Like i'd rather have less work that's like
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: quality and like everyone is getting because it's not just
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: the clothes, it's customer service. Ye, So like I want
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm not so spread then that
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I can't provide excellent customer service. Like I want to
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: be there in Glam. Like obviously I'm one person, so
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I can't be everywhere, and like I have some clients
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: in New York, so like that's you know, we figured
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: that out. But I don't ever want it to be.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I don't want to lose my touch because I think
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: that's why people are hiring. Hey they're They're not saying
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: aren't talented, They're paying for the personal touch. Yeah yeah,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: like my assistants are super talented and capable, but like
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: they aren't me either, so yeah, yeah.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: I have plans to have them be more client facing eventually,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: do they they.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Are client facing? Like I can't go to a Glam tonight,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: so like I'll I have an assistant going, but like
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I've set the look and she'll just go to the glam.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: But I'm trying to figure out I'm in this like
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: weird phase where like things are scaling up, but like
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I'm having trouble letting go of like control, of course,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: So that's something I'm navigating at the moment of just
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: like how do I make everyone happy, do my job well,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: delegate better, because you can't scale a company without learning
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: how to delegate. I cannot do everything myself all the time,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: like whether it's just like okay, like because like I
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: still personally send ninety percent of the emails or like
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: seventy five percent, but it's like maybe I don't need
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: to send every request or any you know. So it's
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: this interesting to get there.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: I understand.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Starting off, I'm just a control for me. I'm a
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: control for you too, and I know I need to
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: be left. I am in like all area, like I
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: just want to be in control.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I get it. I'm the same way, but.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I feel like when I'm not in control,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: things can slip, but I might at least then I
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: can blame myself. You'll get to a point eventually where
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: you feel really good about I know you feel good
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: about your girls, but you'll get to a point where
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: you feel better and you're like, oh, this actually is
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: makes me easier and I do more of that. Yeah,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: you know, it's not even that they're not capable. It's
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: like I can't let go. You should let go. I
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: know I need to ease up a little, am.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: I speaking of letting go? Have you ever let go
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: a client or broken up with a client? I feel
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: like it's really similar to when you have a hair
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: person you love. Yeah, you're doing your highlights and you're
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: in a relationship with that person, and then one day
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: you're like, I kind of want to switch up my
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: hairstyle totally, and then you break up with them. And
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: it's a little weird, but it happens all the time.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: It happens all the time. I think in yes, I
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: have let a client go, and I've also been let
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: go by a client. And I would say being let
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: go by a client, it's like a little bit of
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: an ego brews at first, but then like once you process, like, oh,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: like none of this is personal, Like this is just
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: how it goes. Like as I've like gotten a little
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: older in my job too, like I think like the
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: first one hurt more than the second. You know, it's
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: just you get comfortable with it and you understand, like
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: it's just how the job works. Like sometimes it works
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: in my favor, where like someone changes to the publicist
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: and then I get a new client because you know,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: they let go of their old stylists, and sometimes I'm
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: the stylist that gets let go. It's just kind of
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: like how it works. And it's never personal. And most
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: of my clients that any client I've ever had, unless
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I'm blacking out, I'm still friends with, so like, are
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: still friendly. There's no bad blood, We support each other,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: we love each other. But I think there's a myth
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: that like I'm not able to let clients go either,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: like if it's not a fit. I am someone that
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: dedicates like my work, my whole heart into my work.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: That if I don't feel like I want to work
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: with someone like I can also let them go.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to protect your energy. Yeah that's happening
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: you And if it feels like it's yeah, sometimes you're misaligned.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: It's like dating and it's like, wow, you're a good person,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: like for someone else. And I feel like because this
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: industry is so vast, there's so many stylists, Like if
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: it's not meant to be like, why are we forcing
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: something that's just not working? Yeah, and it's totally okay.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: And then every time i've like let a client go,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I've got a another. Like I had one that was
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: really scary to do, and not because of the person,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: but I was just like nervous to do it. And
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: like I got an email later that day before I
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: had that conversation of someone else and I was like, okay,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: like I'm on the right path, leaves and another comes. Yeah,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: it's I'm never at a lack of business. So I
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: try to remind myself that, like I try to have affirmations, yeah,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: just to be like I've never been out of lack,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: like I've always been at a surplus and I'm girl,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I'm trying.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: What you've built is crazy.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Thank you. It really is so impressive, starting as the assistant,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: finding your niche, building your own client lists. Thank you.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: And I have so many clients that I can't even
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: post yeah, yeah, which is also kind of fun. That's
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: really cool. Yeah. But then for you for being like,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I don't need too I'm good.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I'm just happy. I feel fulfilled.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes I can't though, that's also a thing in
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: this job, it's like you sign but again, like if
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: a client wants privacy, like I don't need an NDA,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: but like also sometimes you do sign an NDA and
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: you can't share the photos. Yeah, but I don't need
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: the photos. Yeah, Like I have a relationship for the
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: relationship and the trust, and that's more important to me,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: and I think that will get me further. Hey, that's
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: why people use you.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: That's why you're good at your job, because you understand
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: that boundary and and you're able to get someone.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: When I'm doing someone's personal wardrobe and it's like a
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: photo of them getting a coffee, I'm like, I don't
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: need to like put that out. Yeah. It depends on
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: like if it's like an epic street style moment. Yeah,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: And it's like really, like that's the vibe. Like with
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: my client Nina Doo brav like we do like a
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: lot of like street style. Like that's that's not what
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: I'm referring to. I'm like, it's like I'm dressing. Like
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I have an actress client that lives in Brooklyn and
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: like you know, she's going to the museum with her
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: kids or the park, Like, yeah, I don't need to Yeah,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: she looks epic and they're some of my favorite outfits.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Like this is like her private life. Yeah, I'm like
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: it's all good, Like live your life, girl. Good. I'll
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: send it to my mom and.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Be like, look, you know, so do you style your family?
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Do you style your mom? Do you style your friends?
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Do people hit you up for styling outside of work?
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: It's so well, that's like an area where I've had
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: to like it's a blurred line because I'm like when
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: you're with your friends and you're just like a girl,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: like you go shopping and you help each other with
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: your outfits for days and stuff, and there's a few
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: friends that like it's funny. I'm like you can ask me.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: You're literally my best friend. We don't want to bug you.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I have like some friends that have paid me at times,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: and I'm like it's like an awkward thing, but like, yeah,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I help my family. My brother he like has he
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: reads like a lot of sub stacks, so like he's
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: got his own thing going cool, so like he doesn't
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: want to bug me. But even like for his wedding,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, like I'm here to help. He's like,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I just don't want to, Like I know you're busy.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm never too busy to help the people
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: that are important. That's also like something I've had to
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: learn in this job. It's like still making time for
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: friends and family. But yeah, I do like to help
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: my friends. Like my friend Jackie whenever she goes on
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: a date, Like I love when she facetimes me and
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: it's like what shoe should I wear? What's jack And
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Jackie, please FaceTime me every single time. It's
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: so fun for me because.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: It's really thank god you FaceTime.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Because it's so chill too, Like I'm like, not everything
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: needs to be like so buttoned up. Like I'm like, yeah,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: like when my friend she just she works for an
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: actress and so she's a personal assistant, so we like
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: probably navigate like what you had to navigate with Jen
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: of like what does she wear to the Chanelle show
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: and to the Chanelle when they're shooting a campaign or something.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: So yeah, like I'll help her a lot because like
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: she's also my best friend. So it's like again, but
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: like that's my birthday gift to her every years, I'm
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: like a day in your closet and then we also
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: FaceTime all the time, and.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: I really want to do that. Yeah, I'm trying to
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: be better about chopping. And you know what really gets
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: me is the phone apps because when I'm.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Just sitting at the dog park, I just scroll and
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: I get myself also like somewhere like Forward or net
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: like free returns, and it's really fast. It's they make
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: it really easy to shop. But I need to be
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: better about going into my closet and seeing what I
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: have already before I shopah.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Because most of the time I have some version of it.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well we can do that one day. Maybe,
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: yes we will.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: We can make another video, we can do a promo.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: I would love sorts. I would love that.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I would do that for you in a second.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: You're so sweet.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Okay, so what's next for you? What are
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: you I'm curious what your personal goals are now that
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: you're building this empire and knowing that you are at
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: the age where you want to be spending more time
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: with friends and family. How are you trying how are
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: you balancing that with the empire that you're building?
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: And totally I think I will need to like let
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: go a little and you know, let go of control
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit and just I'm lucky I have people
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: that I trust. I would love to continue to build
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: out both sides of my world, like I do the
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: personal shopping and personal styling and the celebrity, and I
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: think the balance of the both, like is one sustainable
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: because then you don't burn out in one. But finding
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: a way, like if I could scale the shopping side
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: of things would be like a big goal of mine.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Like I've had ideas that haven't been put into fruition.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I would love to do like a jewelry collaboration one
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  Speaker 1: day that is like on like a dream list, and
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's possible. That's totally possible, yeah, and
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: like that's probably an easy one. But yeah, I think
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: like for me, the definition of success will not just
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: be career, like it's also how I show up for
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: my friends and family. And it's not to say that
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  Speaker 1: I don't take my business like seriously and like I'm
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: a worker, yeah, but also I want to show up
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  Speaker 1: for the people around me, so like I want to
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  Speaker 1: keep doing that of like also kind of like carving
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  Speaker 1: my own path to be like as much as like
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: my work is my life, like it doesn't have to
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  Speaker 1: be my whole life and I can have aspects outside
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  Speaker 1: of that because I think, like there's this industry, like
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: you can get wrapped up in it and like you
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: can like be sucked out of a personal life because
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: it's just like it's almost like it's a thrill to
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  Speaker 1: it too, where I'm not looking to like ever not work.
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  Speaker 1: I would always love to work, same, but also like
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: finding a balance being more present. Yeah, like if I'm
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: with my family, like I can like manifesting life, where
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: like if I put my phone away for two hours,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: like nobody like the world is I'm really bad at that,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: but doesn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't it crazy when you put your phone away for
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: a couple hours maybe the only.
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  Speaker 1: Time I do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious to see what I'm going to do
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Thanksgiving dinner or this dinner or something.
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  Speaker 1: But that's also why I get like a massage every month,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, for an hour, you're dead to me,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Like no one can courage me.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: You got to take care of yourself, wasn't I think
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: it's exactly what you said. It's really easy to get
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  Speaker 2: wrapped up in our industry and have it be your
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  Speaker 2: whole life. But then when you find balance. It's also
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: really lovely and a good reminder.
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  Speaker 1: Of and balance isn't like every day. It's like I'm
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: in like a work sprint right now of like four
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: weeks in a row, like I have all these presentations
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: and stuff, but it's like okay, like finding like balance
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  Speaker 1: in a Saturday where it's like okay, like I'll spend
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: the day with my boyfriend and we'll do this together
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  Speaker 1: and then like I'll go I'm very lucky he's so supportive,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Like I am not home for dinner like half the
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: nights because I'm working, and but yeah, like it's there's
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: a moment for everything, like there's a moment to focus
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: on family, there's a moment to focus on career. And
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: like I feel like I've been in like a growth
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: spurt and just like leaning in when it avails itself
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: to you, because it doesn't always, so just like when
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: it's there, like lean in and then I've always learned.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like one of the biggest life since I've
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: learned is that I worked super hard at my twenties
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: and I have like my dream life in my thirties,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: my dream career, like I have the dream, like I
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: have the whole thing going right now that I don't
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: regret that, like I spent my twenties of course, and
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: of course like I still got to I'm not like
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I went to lock myself into like an asylum, but
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: like I'm so glad I focused career in my twenties
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: when other people weren't. So now in my thirties, I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: feel like more settled into who I am in my life.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Me too, I feel the exact same way. Yeah, and
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: I won't regret that. I don't regret a single thing,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: and I don't think we ever will.
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  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: No, I like you always want to work, and I
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: had a similar experience with my twenties of just putting
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: work first all the time. Yeah, and now I think
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: even the last two years, maybe I'm still putting work first,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: but I'm trying to make room for more stuff. Yeah.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: I have a question for you. What's the favorite outfit
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: you've ever worn? Do you have a favorite? Say? I
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: think maybe my blue hate dress with the necktie. I
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: love a necktie.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: I wore that thing in Greece last summer, and it's
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: I usually do go through my I and I will
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: do a real real thing and I'll purge but I
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: will hold onto.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: That dress forever.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: I love that dress.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, same, Yeah, that's one of my I don't know.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I have a top five. I
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: said top five twice and I don't know what they are,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: but that's definitely up there.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or do you have a favorite outfit?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: I think that's up there for me too. I watch
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: my brother's wedding, so also now it's like sentimental. But
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I just brought it on my vacation to Italy, which
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: is nice, really good. It's just fits for like so
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: many things. Yeah, I'm going to save it for my
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: daughter one day. Yeah, the daughter that I have yet,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: but I will know I have. I have a closet
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: like that at my mom's house of like some good
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: vintage and I'm like, I don't wear this, like this
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: is in the archive, No imagine one. You can't. We
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: just can't sell those dresses. They're so good. Now we
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: should share. I feel like I'm going to go through
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: your closet and I well, I have the navy one.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: I'm going to like, have you purge things, but I'm
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: gonna take them deal.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, So lastly, I guess what advice would you give
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: someone who's going to break into fashion or become a celebrity.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Stylists with your sort of roster totally for the younger
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: For the younger folks, how would you recommend that they
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: sort of step into the world.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: I think just like find someone that you like and
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: you like their taste, and you also not just like
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: their tastes, you like their client telling you like how
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: they run their business. Because there's so many different versions
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: of being a stylist, like work for as many as
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: you can, because there's so many different niches. There's some
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: that don't do any shopping. There's some that only do shopping,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: There's some that do only editorial, there's some that do
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: all of the above, and they're like losing their minds,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: you know, So finding your niche, but really like finding
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: someone that's like willing to like apprentice you in a way,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: and so.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Being an assistant. I think being an assistant.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like absorbing as much as possible and just
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: like listening, yeah, listen to as much as you can.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: Not in like a gossipy way, but like I've learned
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: so much just by being in the room with like
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: someone like Kate or I'm like, oh my gosh, yeah,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: just by being quiet for an hour, Like I've learned
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: more than I learned in my entire four years. And
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: she is a bucket of knowledge. Yeah, that woman, and
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: she's so cool.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I love her so much.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love her too. I was nervous because I
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: she hired me and we met on Zoom, but I
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: hadn't met her in person, and like I was a
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: little like stiff leading up to meeting her, and then
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: as soon as we met, like my guard was down,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh no, she's so warm and
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: she is the best stories and yeah, just she's such
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: an impressive human being with so impressed taste and yeah, yeah,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I love her. And she's a mom and she and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: she's also always that inspires me. Yeah, which is why
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: I because I'm someone that aspires to be a mom,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: which is like when that all organically happened, I was
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: like happy. I've asked her questions of like how do
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: you bat? Like she's been someone that's been not only
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: supportive of like my career, Like she's thrown me clients
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: that she definitely didn't need to and I'm like, are
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: you serious? You know what I mean. But she's also
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: just someone I can call and be like, oh my gosh,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: like I'm sure when I'm a mom, Like I can
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: call her and be like, how do I do all
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: this and have a baby? You know, she would easily
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: take a phone call or yeah, you know, she's just
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: she's a wonderful human. I love her, we love nothing.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: But I need to get Kate Young on the pod.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: I think I shall do it. I think I can.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: I feel like she will. Yeah, us calling. He's very supportive.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: So yeah, she is, she really is. And that's rare
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: actually in this business.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: You know what now that I'm thinking of it. Of course.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: I in twenty twenty three, when I was doing my
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal did an amazing piece on Clyde which
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: was totally unexpected and life altering, to be honest and
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: queer altering. And I didn't have the wardrobe for the
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: photo shoot, and I didn't know what the hell to wear.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: So I texted Kate and Sean and I said, can
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: I come into the office and look at some of
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: your stuff? And she said absolutely. So I went into
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: the office and went home with a bunch of blazers
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: and buttons down. She had my back and she didn't
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: owe me anything or you know, I was Jen's assistant,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: I wasn't her buddy, and we had worked together for
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: a couple of years.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: And I think, but like someone that sees you it
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: went while you're in that assistant role and treats you
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: this like an equal. It's like rare, but also like
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: that speaks about who she is and who you are.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it was even after they had
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: separated and she still said come on by the office.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: And I will always be grateful for that. That was
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: so so kind and yeah, I got a great outfit
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: out of it.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: So very much. Who she is? Yeah, yeah, she she
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: What is it like mentioned women's names in a room
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: full of opportunities? I feel like that it's like who
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: she is? Totally well, Lauren, thank you so much for
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: coming on.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: This was so fun.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: I loved hanging out. I hope we get to hang.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Out with not going to go up to my closet.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, I need to go see everything. Thank you for
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: having me, of course.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: Thank you guys for tuning in. And you can follow
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Clyde Confidential at Clyde Confidential on Instagram and you can
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: watch these videos on YouTube.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: I'm already following so yeah, see you next time. Bye
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: oh