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The Late Debate | 15 July · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lateener Welcome the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Staer
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  Speaker 2: and Caleb Bond here on the.
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  Speaker 3: Late Debate coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Spanish people sick of tourists have come up with a
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  Speaker 2: novel way of getting rid of visitors.
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  Speaker 3: If you're planning on.
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  Speaker 2: A trip to Barcelona soon, you'll need to know what's
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  Speaker 2: going on. Plus, when we look at the papers, the
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  Speaker 2: Greens leader Adam Bant reckons they will replace Labor as
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  Speaker 2: the center left party in Australia.
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  Speaker 3: Go figure and a Queensland.
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  Speaker 2: MP has promised to draorknock on the homes of people
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  Speaker 2: who make negative comments about him on social media. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure that's such a great idea. Talk about that
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  Speaker 2: when we get to the papers. But Donald Trump has
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  Speaker 2: given his first interview after surviving the assassination attempt at
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  Speaker 2: the weekend. He talked about how he's lucky to be alive,
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  Speaker 2: why his shoes fell off during the attack, and how
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  Speaker 2: the events of the weekend will change his campaign going forward.
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  Speaker 2: He spoke to a New York Post reporter. Let me
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  Speaker 2: give you some of the key things that he said
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  Speaker 2: and will talk about them. On surviving the assassination attempt.
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  Speaker 2: He told the Post. The doctors at the hospital said
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  Speaker 2: that they'd never seen anything like this. They called it
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  Speaker 2: a miracle. I'm not supposed to be here. I'm supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be dead. By luck or by God. Many people
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  Speaker 2: are saying it's by God I'm still here, and calebin this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anyone would disagree with that.
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  Speaker 3: Had it not.
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  Speaker 2: Been for that slight turn of the head at the
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  Speaker 2: last moment and a couple of millimeters, we have a
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  Speaker 2: very different story this week.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, the irony that looking at a chart of the
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  Speaker 1: illegal immigration, the almost half of Australia's population that has
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  Speaker 1: poured over the southern border during the Biden administration, that's
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  Speaker 1: what he was looking at.
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  Speaker 4: That is what saved his life. According to Trump's own
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  Speaker 4: turn of events, he is like, that's what I was doing.
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  Speaker 1: I just turned my head slightly to look at a
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  Speaker 1: chart that I was talking about, and that is what
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  Speaker 1: saved my life.
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  Speaker 4: Said for many, many months now, it's this amount of
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  Speaker 4: illegal immigration that's going to see him back into the
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  Speaker 4: White House. Keeps talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Illegal immigration, and here we see it having literally saved
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  Speaker 1: his life.
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  Speaker 4: So I do believe it's a miracle.
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  Speaker 1: We are talking about millimeters between a grazed ears and
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  Speaker 1: a bullet lodged in the brain.
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  Speaker 4: And he well knows that and has attributed to.
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  Speaker 1: An act of God in a tweet of his that
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  Speaker 1: we'll get to in a bit.
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  Speaker 5: We've actually found a reason that illegal immigration is good
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  Speaker 5: for once.
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  Speaker 6: You know, in saved Donald Trump's life.
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  Speaker 5: And I mean this interview he did with the New
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  Speaker 5: York Post is so Donald Trump in the quotes right now.
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  Speaker 5: We'll get a bit later into what happened with the
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  Speaker 5: Secret Service and how barely they blended things, but you know,
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  Speaker 5: he does have to give some credit to them, and
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  Speaker 5: he says in this interview, speaking of what the Secret
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  Speaker 5: Service did to the bloker, tried to shoot him and
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  Speaker 5: I'm not going to name him. He doesn't deserve it.
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  Speaker 5: They took him out with one shot right between the eyes.
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  Speaker 5: That did a fantastic job.
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  Speaker 4: It's surreal for all of us.
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  Speaker 5: The agents hit me so hard that my shoes fell off,
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  Speaker 5: and my shoes are tight. Now it's good to know
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  Speaker 5: that he's rocking around in tight shoes. But I was
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  Speaker 5: wondering because, of course, when he stood back half. One
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  Speaker 5: of the first things he said was let me get
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  Speaker 5: my shoes.
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  Speaker 6: Let me get my.
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  Speaker 5: Shoes, And I was, what, I'm thinking, the dune's just
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  Speaker 5: been shot, and the first thing he's concerned with is
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  Speaker 5: getting his shoes. I thought maybe he got up on
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  Speaker 5: stage and like, I don't know, he takes them off
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  Speaker 5: so he can sort of wiggle his toes around while
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  Speaker 5: he's up on the stage. But no, that with all
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  Speaker 5: the thoughts that they hit him, his shoes came off.
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  Speaker 5: And I also thought it was really funny to see
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  Speaker 5: how scraggly his hair was, because we know how much
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  Speaker 5: Trump cares about his look, right, and the hair is
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  Speaker 5: the distinctive look. And he got well, the two pay
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  Speaker 5: didn't come off. If it is a two pay, I
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  Speaker 5: suspect it's his real hair actually. But anyway, he got
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  Speaker 5: up and he looked like he had bad hair and
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  Speaker 5: like he just had this gnarly look on him. It
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  Speaker 5: was so good to see and the best that wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: That was the highlight defy of this man. Keep in mind,
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  Speaker 1: when he fell to the ground, all he'd done was grasp.
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  Speaker 4: His ear and be like, oh, something's going on here.
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  Speaker 4: Fell to the ground.
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  Speaker 1: You don't actually know in those seconds he would have
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  Speaker 1: been crouched on the ground, going am I shot?
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  Speaker 4: Where am I shot?
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  Speaker 1: I know that I'm bleeding, because a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: when they are shot, their first question is.
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  Speaker 4: Am I shot?
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  Speaker 1: Because of course you adrenaline shoots through the roof. You
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  Speaker 1: don't know how serious it is at the time, etc.
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  Speaker 4: And so on.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as he gets to his feet, he says wait, wait, wait,
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  Speaker 1: wait to the Secret Service trying to wrestle him off stage,
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  Speaker 1: raises his fist in defiance and mouths fight, fight, fight,
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  Speaker 1: And that's what he spoke about next in this interview,
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  Speaker 1: he said a lot of people say it's the most
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  Speaker 1: iconic photo they've ever seen.
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  Speaker 4: They're right, And I didn't die.
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  Speaker 1: Usually you have to die to have an iconic picture.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to keep speaking, but I just got shot.
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  Speaker 4: You don't get more Trump then this.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, the lefty media took umbrage to the fact
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  Speaker 1: that this had been his attitude seconds after being shot,
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  Speaker 1: and they're saying, oh, that's not the message that we
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  Speaker 1: think should be.
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  Speaker 4: Sent right now, What on earth.
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  Speaker 1: Other message do you want to see from the man
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  Speaker 1: vying for the top spot? Yeah, as leader of the
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  Speaker 1: free world, which is currently a joke. There's not much
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  Speaker 1: freedom going on, is there, But Commander in Chief, that
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  Speaker 1: is the kind of strength and dignity and fighting spirit.
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  Speaker 4: That you want to see.
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  Speaker 1: And a guy who's just been shot, and I dare
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  Speaker 1: say at the time, again he still didn't know what
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  Speaker 1: the damage was. And I dare say that was a
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  Speaker 1: message to everyone there and watching around the world, no
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  Speaker 1: matter what happens to me from this day forward, you
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  Speaker 1: guys have got to continue the fight. Fight these guys.
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  Speaker 1: He's called out Deep State. He said unteenth dozen times.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going after these guys, these glos obal elites. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not playing their game, which is why we always say
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  Speaker 1: the establishment is genuinely terrified of this guy, and they've
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  Speaker 1: got every reason to be. So he's saying, in my absence,
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  Speaker 1: while I'm here, I'm fighting, but if I'm gone, you
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  Speaker 1: guys fight.
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  Speaker 2: His presence of mind in that moment, he says in
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  Speaker 2: the interview that he was very aware, and how he
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  Speaker 2: was aware in the split seconds with everything that was
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  Speaker 2: happening says a lot about him.
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  Speaker 3: But he said, I was very aware.
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  Speaker 2: The whole world is watching this moment, and so I've
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  Speaker 2: got to make sure I project strength the other thing
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  Speaker 2: I love about Trump is the internal contradictions. One minute
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  Speaker 2: he's saying, but for the grace of God, and the
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  Speaker 2: next minuting he's saying, I'm a living icon.
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  Speaker 3: To this hum all the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean he's just been shot that he says,
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  Speaker 2: but how good was the folk?
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  Speaker 5: But this is Trump, right, like the political brain just
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  Speaker 5: doesn't turn off, and he knew how important that moment
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  Speaker 5: was and what that image would be. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 5: I just like to be the photographer from the Associated
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  Speaker 5: Press that took that photo, because my goodness, you can
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  Speaker 5: just retire to an you want for the rest of
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  Speaker 5: your life, right, just live off the proceeds of that photo,
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  Speaker 5: because that's going to be in every political textbook, It's
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  Speaker 5: going to be in every history class. It is going
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  Speaker 5: to be absolutely plastered everywhere for hundreds and hundreds of years.
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  Speaker 5: But of course, the other thing is that the Republican
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  Speaker 5: National Conference kicks off today American time, and you'll be
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  Speaker 5: able to watch the live coverage of that here on
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  Speaker 5: Sky News from nine am tomorrow Eastern Standard time. And
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  Speaker 5: he had a speech prepared because of course, he will
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  Speaker 5: be confirmed as the presidential nominee for the Republican Party,
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  Speaker 5: and he had a speech confirmed that he put together
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  Speaker 5: for that. Well, he's thrown all of that out now,
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  Speaker 5: because of course, there have been some different events over
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  Speaker 5: the last couple of days. About this, he said, I
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  Speaker 5: had prepared an extremely tough speech, really good, all about
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  Speaker 5: the corrupt, horrible administration, but I threw it away. I
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  Speaker 5: want to try to unite our country, but I don't
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  Speaker 5: know if that's possible. People are very divided, and you're
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  Speaker 5: probably going to see from now on a somewhat different Trump,
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  Speaker 5: I think, because the campaign on both sides to this
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  Speaker 5: point has very much been a well, Biden hates Trump
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  Speaker 5: and Trump hates Biden. We hate each other, the other
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  Speaker 5: guy's bad, don't vote for him. You have to vote
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  Speaker 5: for me to save the country, et cetera, et cetera.
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  Speaker 5: Now that we've had this pressure point reached with Trump
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  Speaker 5: being shot, and Trump has such a moral high ground
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  Speaker 5: now that he can he doesn't have to go out
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  Speaker 5: there and say Joe's terrible, right, that's sort of a
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  Speaker 5: moot point. Now he can say, Look, they came after me,
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  Speaker 5: and I've always said that I stand between you and them,
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  Speaker 5: So I need you to come with me and rebuild
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  Speaker 5: this country together, go back to the original make America
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  Speaker 5: great again mantra, and he probably doesn't have to mention
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  Speaker 5: Joe Biden at all until November.
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  Speaker 6: From this point onwards.
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  Speaker 1: We've just stolen their tagline because they were forever every
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  Speaker 1: single Trump election, they've been like, he's so divisive, he's
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  Speaker 1: dividing the country. We the Democrats, we will unite the country.
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  Speaker 1: The country's never been more divided. After four years of
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  Speaker 1: a Biden administration, the country has never been more divided.
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  Speaker 1: And one of Trump's last tweets, most recently on his
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  Speaker 1: Truth social platform was just all caps, unite America and
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  Speaker 1: a million exclamation masks, because that's how Trump writes.
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  Speaker 4: So he's stolen their catchphrase.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, no, I've always said, they're not after me,
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  Speaker 1: They're after you. I'm just in the way. And don't
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  Speaker 1: we know it? Twice in Peach, four times, indicted, buried
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  Speaker 1: in law.
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  Speaker 4: For, and now shot at.
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  Speaker 1: And this guy stands to his feet and tells everyone
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  Speaker 1: watching worldwide, fight these mongrels.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Trump's been given an incredible opportunity now to be a statesman,
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  Speaker 2: to bring people together, not just in America, but.
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  Speaker 3: Around the world.
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  Speaker 2: He can really make a massive difference if he gets
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  Speaker 2: his tone right and the fact that he I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he said, I had this brilliant speech all ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to slam Joe Biden on every front,
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  Speaker 2: and he's torn that up. Said I'm going to write
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  Speaker 2: something different, try and bring people together. And of course
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  Speaker 2: he can do that because Biden's entire campaign has been
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  Speaker 2: about dividing everybody up. So Biden can try to be
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  Speaker 2: a unite it. No one believes him. Trump can do it,
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  Speaker 2: and if he does, I think he can surprise a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the attack itself, because there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of questions around how it happened and what police and
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  Speaker 2: Secret Service were doing. There are reports that a police officer,
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  Speaker 2: having been told by the crowd that the shooter was
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  Speaker 2: on a roof, climbed a ladder and confronted the shooter
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  Speaker 2: before any shots were fired. The shooter turned the rifle
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  Speaker 2: on the police officer, who promptly went back down the ladder,
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  Speaker 2: and then after that shots were taken at Trump. But
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  Speaker 2: have a look at this system vs of bystanders watching
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  Speaker 2: on seeing the shooter on the roof and calling out
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  Speaker 2: to police.
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  Speaker 6: Look because we have cont dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: On the world.
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  Speaker 2: So you can clearly see there there's people yelling out
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  Speaker 2: to the police. We can see someone with a rifle
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  Speaker 2: on the roof. Have a listen to this witness who
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  Speaker 2: says I tried to get the attention of police.
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  Speaker 8: The police are down there running around on the ground.
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  Speaker 8: We're like, hey, man, there's guy on the roof with
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  Speaker 8: the rifle. And the police are like, huh what, you know,
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  Speaker 8: like like they didn't know what was going on.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 8: We're like, hey, right here on the roof, we can
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  Speaker 8: see him from right here, we see him, you know,
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  Speaker 8: he's he's crawling. And next thing you know, I'm like,
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  Speaker 8: I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, why is Trump still speaking?
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  Speaker 8: Why have they not pulled him off the stage. I'm
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  Speaker 8: standing there pointing at him for you know, three minutes.
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  Speaker 8: Secret Service is looking at us from the top of
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  Speaker 8: the bone. I'm pointing at that roof, just standing it
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  Speaker 8: like this, and next thing you know, five truttering out.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of questions listening to that. Caleb. Very
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  Speaker 3: clearly members of.
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  Speaker 2: The public spot of the shooter before the security agencies.
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  Speaker 5: It is a monumental failure from every perspective, right, And
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  Speaker 5: I mean we can go through the whole lot of it,
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  Speaker 5: from the Secret Service to the local cop going up
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  Speaker 5: the ladder and the whole thing. But to have so
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  Speaker 5: many people have acknowledged that he was there and were
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  Speaker 5: aware that he was there. You can see in the
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  Speaker 5: footage him on the roof at various points moving up
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  Speaker 5: and down. You can see his body, then he gets
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  Speaker 5: back down and that it's harder.
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  Speaker 3: To see it.
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  Speaker 5: But of course the Secret Service that were set up
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  Speaker 5: on a roof behind Trump were from an elevated position,
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  Speaker 5: so they should have been able to go.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, in the way they couldn't see.
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  Speaker 5: And that bloke there who spoke to the BBC and
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  Speaker 5: that reported, by the way, I have to say, did
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  Speaker 5: some great work over the weekend. And he's fully blind
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  Speaker 5: as well, which just makes the reporting he did that
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  Speaker 5: much more extraordinary. But what he is saying there is
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  Speaker 5: that I did my darndest to let them know that.
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  Speaker 6: This bloke was there.
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  Speaker 5: I could see it, everyone else could see it, and
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  Speaker 5: yet nothing was done. Minutes went by. Now I understand
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  Speaker 5: that if there's someone on the roof, the Secret Service
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  Speaker 5: or the local copy went up the ladder might be
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  Speaker 5: somewhat reticent to shoot before they know why he's there
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  Speaker 5: and what he's motiv.
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  Speaker 1: Concealed carry.
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  Speaker 5: But that's what is so extraordinary about it, is why
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  Speaker 5: at any point in that four or five minutes did
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  Speaker 5: they not make the call to take the shot until
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  Speaker 5: he had fired a shot, or.
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  Speaker 2: Even on that, if they weren't going to take the shot,
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  Speaker 2: at least get Donald Trump off the stage and into
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  Speaker 2: a place of safety while you figure out is this
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  Speaker 2: a threat or is it just someone on the roof
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  Speaker 2: with a.
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  Speaker 1: Right Why, I'm outright saying this is not a loan
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  Speaker 1: gunman there I have listened to.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, I've listened.
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  Speaker 1: To nothing else but experts, people who work for the
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  Speaker 1: Secret Service, people who have worked for the Secret Service.
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  Speaker 4: This is literally impossible to do without.
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  Speaker 1: Help from the inside. Now, I'm not saying it was
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  Speaker 1: an inside job. There would have just been a handful
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  Speaker 1: of people who could have been involved in something like that.
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  Speaker 1: But the likelihood that a twenty year old kid could
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  Speaker 1: access an area that the Secret Service already knew had
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  Speaker 1: a direct line of sight was just four hundred yards
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  Speaker 1: from the podium is beyond It's not believable. Which is
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  Speaker 1: why I will not believe it he was able to
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  Speaker 1: scale a ladder. You had people in the audience who
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  Speaker 1: are like, you can see him, he's right there. We
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  Speaker 1: just saw him right there on their little phone cams.
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  Speaker 1: He was lying on the roof. He clearly had a rifle.
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  Speaker 1: This wasn't some concealed carry type pistol arrangement.
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  Speaker 4: You have to set it up.
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  Speaker 1: You've got a scope and when you look at there's
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  Speaker 1: a few maps here we've.
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  Speaker 4: Got for you.
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  Speaker 1: When you look at where the counter snipers were located
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  Speaker 1: in relation to where this shooter was, there is.
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  Speaker 4: No way they can't have seen him.
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  Speaker 1: Now we know these advanced teams go out weeks, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: months in advance to every location at which an event
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  Speaker 1: like this is going to take place. They have one job,
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  Speaker 1: protect the guy in this case, Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 4: That is it. These guys are trained snipers.
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  Speaker 1: Within a thousand yards, they can kill a bee. They're
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  Speaker 1: trained to notice even if a window is open, a
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  Speaker 1: crack through which someone could be shooting. And you mean
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  Speaker 1: to tell me they didn't notice a twenty year old
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  Speaker 1: kid mounting an area that they already knew was top
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  Speaker 1: priority risk territory getting up there with a rifle setting
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  Speaker 1: up a rifle. The kid didn't even attempt to dress
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  Speaker 1: like one of them.
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  Speaker 4: He wasn't wearing all black.
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  Speaker 1: He was just in every day clothes and he took
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  Speaker 1: this shot. They had seen him, They did know he
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  Speaker 1: was there, The people knew he was.
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  Speaker 4: There, the cops knew they were there.
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  Speaker 1: And you mean to tell me the count of snipers
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  Speaker 1: didn't know he was there, So what were they waiting for?
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  Speaker 1: They took him out within seconds of him actually opening fire.
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  Speaker 1: But why on earth would you wait for that to
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: occur before you take this guy out? And I don't
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: necessarily mean a kill shot. These snipers are so good
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: at what they do. They could have easily shot both.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: His arms off given and then we would have.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Been able to actually take him to a court of
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: law and be like, guys, explain what were you doing
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: up there?
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: He is an MSNBC reporter pointing.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Out some of these very poignant, undeniably inconvenient facts.
• 17:09
  Speaker 9: A senior Secret Service source familiar with the planning of
• 17:12
  Speaker 9: yesterday's event tells NBC News that the roof where the
• 17:15
  Speaker 9: shooter was located was a well known, high priority vulnerability.
• 17:20
  Speaker 9: It was identified just the day before during a security walkthrough.
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: We've also just learned that there were two counter sniper
• 17:27
  Speaker 9: teams on site and that the counter sniper did not
• 17:31
  Speaker 9: need approval to shoot, one source telling NBC News that
• 17:35
  Speaker 9: prior protocols were not followed. The FBI now says the
• 17:39
  Speaker 9: alleged shooter, twenty year old Thomas Matthew Crooks, appears to
• 17:42
  Speaker 9: have acted alone.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: This is why I say. They let him on the roof.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: They knew he was there, They watched him set up
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the rifle, they knew he had a rifle. They waited
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: till he opened fire to open fire themselves. He's dead
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: and now he can't talk. Sorry, I'm just not buying.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: You got five shots off, I believe before the Service
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: managed to take care of him. He's a former Secret
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Service agent, saying that the Secret Service would have had
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: a clear view of the shooter, and yet they waited
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: until he fired before they took him out.
• 18:18
  Speaker 10: It's gross and competence. I mean, how do you let
• 18:20
  Speaker 10: I mean think about it right? The counter sniper team
• 18:22
  Speaker 10: they train out the Secret Service count sniper team. Obviously
• 18:24
  Speaker 10: they are mitigative sniper thread. They train out to one
• 18:27
  Speaker 10: thousand yards, so we're talking about say it was two
• 18:29
  Speaker 10: hundred yards, it was actually less than that where this
• 18:32
  Speaker 10: shooter was right, you're talking about a fraction of what
• 18:36
  Speaker 10: they're trained at. They're also trained to spot guys in
• 18:39
  Speaker 10: gilli suits, cracked open windows. He's on a white roof
• 18:44
  Speaker 10: in broad daily on a white roof. Now again, it'd
• 18:48
  Speaker 10: be easy for me to say, oh, well, let's not
• 18:50
  Speaker 10: get into Monday morning quarterback, bro. It's not a freaking
• 18:53
  Speaker 10: football game. It's the President of the United States's life.
• 18:56
  Speaker 10: The Secret Service has one job.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: It's a great point.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: The Secret Service had one job, and Caleb they totally
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: blew it.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Well, yes, indeed quite literally, if you want to go
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: to that extreme. And the result of that is that
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Trump was very lucky to get away with his life.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: But at least one person is now dead, two others
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: are critically injured as a result of that. If that
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: shot had been taken earlier, you wouldn't have dead people, right,
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: And listening to the accounts of those who were in
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: the crowd and what they saw, I mean the bloke
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: who was shot and died, he had a bullet through
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: the head. A doctor was describing yesterday that he saw
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: his brain matter come out the other side of his head.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: You can imagine. I mean, he's a doctor, so I'm
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: sure he's more desensitized to it, but you can imagine
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: how traumatic that is for everyone else around.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: And when you.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: Listen to the full footage of the attack, Trump goes
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: down at about ten seconds later, you hear a guttural
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: scream from a woman in the audience, which I assume
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: is her realizing that someone else has been killed, because
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: of course there was another woman who was hit. All
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: of this just seems terribly avoidable, and the fact that
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: something wasn't done earlier about it is an absolute disgrace.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: But nobody needs to worry, right because the FBI are
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: going to investigate it. The same FBI who told you
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: that Hunter Biden's laptop wasn't Hunter Biden's laptop. The same
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: FBI who raided Trump's Mary Lago home for confidential information,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: but let Hillary Clinton off for a slap with a
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: slap on the wrist when they discovered that she had
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: a private server from which she sent hundreds of confidential
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: docks while she was in the highest halls of power.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: The same FBI that told everyone back in twenty sixteen
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: that Russia was colluding with Trump, and that just no
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: one should vote for him because well, he's clearly a
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Russian plant. The same FBI who couldn't even figure out
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: who's crack cocaine was in the White House last year,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: even though Hunter Biden had been visiting that weekend. This
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: FBI is on the case, and I'm sure they're going
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: to get to the look because it's not like they've
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: ever had it in for Trump.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: It was clearly it was clearly Joe's, because you know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: he needs it to sort of pep himself up. The
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: crack cocaine. I mean, but so we talk about the
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: snipers and how badly they stuffed it up, but the
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: response on the ground from the Secret Service was just
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: as shoddy. You may have seen some of the photos
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: and footage of particularly what some of the female Secret
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Service agents were doing in the aftermath of Trump being
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: shot in the ear. Here is an example of some
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: of the clear bungling that was going on when one
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: of the most famous men in the world, who should
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: be one of the most protected men in the world,
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: happened to be shot on stage.
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, look at that woman.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: She can't even get a gun back in the whole splster.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: This is a woman who's charged with protecting Donald Trump,
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: and she doesn't even know what.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: To do with her gun.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: The agent beside her is adjusting her sunglasses continually make
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: sure she looks the part as a Seal Services agent.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're racing around like headless chalks, with no
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: idea what they're supposed to be doing. If you listen
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: really carefully, and we haven't got this particular vision. But
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: when Trump goes down and the Secret Service agents jump
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: on him, if you listen really carefully, you can hear
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: the female agents say what are we doing?
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: What are we doing? Where are we going?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: They train for just this moment, and then when the
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: moment arrives, she needs the guidebook to figure out what
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: she's supposed to do.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: And all of this, of course.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Now goes back to the Secret Service director Kimberly Chitl,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: who explained last year that she was very proud that
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: the Secret Service was well on track to have thirty
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: percent of their agent's female. We saw how that just
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: worked out. But here she is talking about this great
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: diversity in the Secret Service.
• 23:23
  Speaker 11: Last year to expand hiring, they're aiming to have thirty
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: percent women recruits by twenty thirty, and even allowed YouTube
• 23:32
  Speaker 11: influencer Michelle Cary to trade with agents.
• 23:35
  Speaker 12: But I'm very conscious as I sit in this chair
• 23:40
  Speaker 12: now of making sure that we need to attract diverse
• 23:43
  Speaker 12: candidates and ensure that we are developing and giving opportunities
• 23:47
  Speaker 12: to everybody in our workforce, and particularly women.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: That's wonderful to give opportunities for women. Just maybe this
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: might not be the opportunity. Have a look at this
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: image from the campaign speech where the Secret Service agents
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: jump on top of Trump. You can see they're covering
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Trump's body. But have a look just to the left
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: of the photograph, there's a Secret Service agent there just
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: taking shelter all on her own, Calebin Liz Well, not
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: too worried about the presence, dear. Look at it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: On the right, you've got men doing their job, literally
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: shielding Trump with their own bodies. They didn't know that
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: they weren't about to be peppered with bullets from wherever
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: this source was, or if indeed there were many sources
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: that were about to open fire. And then you've got
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: these women crouching behind them.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: By putting her head, I don't know what she thinks
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: she's doing.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: But I've always said this, you cannot send a woman
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: to do a man's job. And before people say, oh,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you're being way too harsh.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: On women, let's be clear here.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Not every kind of men would be performing well under
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: pressure when their lives are at state. Job is to
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: literally throw yourself in harm's way in a highly pressured
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: environment where you know, in this moment, this could be.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: My last moment.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Well, the other problem is, sorry, this is this is
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: not This is not a profession for every man, and
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: it's certainly not a profession for any it's.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Not a profession for every body type. Because one of
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: the female agents was clearly not tall enough to provide
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: cover for Donald Trump, who's a pretty big guy. But
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: there's some footage of where she's standing in front of him.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: But clearly you could still get a shot off on
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Trump because he's got large enough to cover his body exactly.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: And look, I take your point, Liz, but look, to
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: be perfectly honest, if I needed a bodyguard, I wouldn't
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: mind you for the job. I think you'd I think
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: you'd be pretty fearsome in these kind of.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: You want you don't want Liz providing cover for your body.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: You want this as a sniper because she wouldn't even
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: ask for question.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: You first, does look a bit dodgy.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: I'm putting Liz on the payroll along with a bloke
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: I know called Rory, who would have no trouble taking
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: someone out. In fact, he should have been there doing
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: the job yesterday. But I had Evelyn Ray on The
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Sunday Showdown last night, seven pm. Every Sunday, by the way,
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: you should watch it. I sit in the middle and
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: host it. It's a great show.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: And then some show afterwards. What's it called, Brian, It's.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Called the Nicko and James and it's a wonderful program.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: The show, the Showdown kind of warms you up.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Oh right, I'll take it. I'll take it.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: I'll take it.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Starting hack.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: But Evelyn Ray was on the show last night, and
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: Evelyn is a former copper and she has worked in
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: dignitary protection and she was going through methodically all the
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: mistakes that the Secret Service had made made on that
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: stage and when they got off the stage, and one
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: of the things she pointed out was that the one
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: part of the body you must always protect is the
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: torso because this bit here has all your vital organs
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: in it, and they call it kill zone. And there
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: was a point where they're taking Trump off the stage
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: and he's holding his hat, his make America grat Again hat,
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: and he drops the hat.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: And then what you'll see here.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Is that the officer, the female officer in front of him,
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: goes down and picks up the hat, and in doing so,
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: she has exposed his Torso, now can you imagine if
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: there happened to be and you'll see it again there,
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: if there had happened to be another shooter there yesterday,
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: she has just exposed his heart, his lungs, everything, so
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: that they could have taken another shot.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: Like you don't have to pick the hat up.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Only the hell a female would bend down for the hat.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Those guys, I'm remotely interested in his head. We then
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: get here out of them.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: We had a fire alarm gold for our place. Today.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: My son was home with me. I said, come on,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: let's go, and he said, can I just grab? I said, mate,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: let's just let's just go. Just we'll be all right. Well,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: you've got someone shooting and he's got ticket service. Have
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: you got is shoes have.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Trump's call like dignity.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: They still allow him to do it now.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Of course, it didn't take long for the lefties to
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: take to their various social media platforms too mourn the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: fact that they were just millimeters away, well a millimeter away.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: From seeing the end of Donald Trump.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Here's comedian Kristen Toomey announcing to her over eighty thousand
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: followers that it was such.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: A shame skinner's ear.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: You know, It's like it was right there.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: And I think, I think we're going to look back.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: On that and go.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Not to be outdone.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: This random blondie sitting in her car was having a
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: meltdown and wanted the world to know that she couldn't
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: believe that the sniper had missed it by this much.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I just found out about this shit. It just happened.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: I haven't even had a second to process.
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: You're telling me somebody finally had the balls to bring
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: a few of you.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: We were a second away.
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: We were a setameter away from half of the problem
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: being gone, and you messed.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: There was a white man attached to that trigger.
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: I know it. We were a centimeter away.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, throwing black men under the bus there, lady, I mean,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: this is unhinged, right if anyone's feeling this way, you'd
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: think surely they just take a long, hard look at
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: themselves and say, wait, if I am genuinely championing on,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: cheering on the cold blooded murder of a man who's
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: not just a president, former president, maybe president again, God willing,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: And I think after rec and events, we can all
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: say God probably is rather willing, then maybe I'm the
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: animal if I'm cheering on the death of this husband,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: this father, this guy who, no matter what you believe
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: about him, is still a living, breathing human being. But
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: of course the media has told these guys for years
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: on end. Now Trump is literally hitler. Trump is the
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: greatest threat to our democracy. If Trump gets back into
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the White House, it.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Is the end of the world as we know it.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: So it was no surprise to hear former White House
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Press Secretary Jen Saki.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Is that how you say the Latin name.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Take use her platform to tell everybody that, well, I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: think we're all under threat.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: Now, we're all in the same boat.
• 30:46
  Speaker 13: Really, for anyone out there who has a platform who
• 30:49
  Speaker 13: thinks the moment right now is to be political and
• 30:51
  Speaker 13: attack the other party, you are feeding into the danger.
• 30:55
  Speaker 13: You are making it more likely there's retaliation. I'm incredibly scared,
• 31:00
  Speaker 13: scared for journalists. I'm scared for people who have public
• 31:02
  Speaker 13: platforms of all parties, and that's how people should feel.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: It's the journalist who has been spreading this hysteria, this
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Trump derangement syndrome for years now, and they genuinely I
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: have not heard one person own their own rhetoric and say,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: perhaps we had a part to play.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: We've had the.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: President of the United States, Biden, get up and say, oh,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: we need to take things down a notch, we need
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: to calm things down again. No responsibility taken for the
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: fact that he himself, the very top, has been championing
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: this kind of rhetoric, this kind of end of the
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: world narrative, and young people have taken that on board.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: When Biden said we need to turn down the retric
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: he was looking at a television camera. He should have
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: been looking at a mirror, because he was the one
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: that needed to hear that message. And the hypocrisy of
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: the left is just incredible. That white woman who is
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: going mental about the fact that the shooter missed, and
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I remember they always accused Trump. One of Trump's made
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: sins that he's such a racist. But did you notice
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: she finishes off for a rant by saying, I bett
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: he miss because he was a white guy, a stupid
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: white man. So the hypocrisy is just quite.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, she was a white.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Guy, but who.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: We know the homicide stats late.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: And he wasn't just a white guy.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: He was a weedy white guy. I mean, look, to
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: be perfectly honest, he's the last person I'd trust to
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: do that sort of job.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Then you've got Democrat staffers like Jacqueline Marsaw.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: She's just been sacked, and so she ought to have been.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: She went on Facebook criticizing the fact that the next
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: person who takes a shot that Trump should make sure
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: they have shooting lessons so that they don't miss. Now,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: the fact that she would post something like that on Facebook,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: she's working for Democrat Representative Benny Thompson, who I'll talk
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: about in the second.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: But the fact that she would go on.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Facebook and say, gee, the shooters should get lessons so
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: next time they don't miss speaks to the fact that
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: she obviously feels comfortable speaking in those terms because of
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: the people that have been around about her. It should
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: be noted the Democrat congressman she works for just a
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: couple of months, tried to pass legislation that would have
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: taken the Secret Service detail away from Donald Trump as
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: a convicted felon. So she's been sacked rightly so, but
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: it's the fact that she would make those comments in
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the first place tells you the kind of environment she's
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: been working in well.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: To be perfectly honest, if they took away his secret
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: Service and he had to get some private operators have
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: done a job.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I I watched this clip of this guy, this black dude,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: he's clearly in the hood.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: And he's like, Donald Trump, my man.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: He's like, if you want people who would never let
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: this happen to you, you just need fifty d's.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: From the herd.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Man, we would never allow this to happen to you.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: He clearly knew that black guys are a.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Better shot as well, because he was saying this would
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: never happen on our You.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Get some hardcore caanngsters from the hood, and we will
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: lay down our lives.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: Taking the secret servers away. Could We'll have been a
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: blissing in disguise. But we show Jim Saki there, right,
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: And I had a name Saki because.
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: Saki is a very nice drink. She's not quite so palatable.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: But I was watching some of the CNN coverage yesterday,
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: just flicking around the various channels, and in between one
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: or two decent interviews with people who were actually in
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: the crowd, they had some seriously nutty stuff yesterday, including
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: questioning that image we talked about before Trump puts his
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: fist up in the air, the defiance, the strength that
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: he is showing to the nation and the world. On CNN,
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: they were complaining that that in itself was inflammatory and
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: that I don't know, he just sort of deserved it
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: or something.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: I do want to say.
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: There was one thing that when I watched the tip
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: I found odd because of all of the hit di
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: and that is that after he was hit fromer, President
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: Trump got up and said, fate, fate, fate. I think
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: what we're hearing from people is that's not the message
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: that we want to be center right now.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: We want to tamp it down.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: Ah, right, So the bloke's just been shot in the ear,
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: and you want him to get up and give you
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: some sort of conciliatory speech.
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, look, it's all good.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: Let's just turn the temperature down for a little while. Guys,
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: dude's just been shot. And straight after he was shot,
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: and it's plainly clear to you and I and anyone
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: else who was watching at the time that they were gunshots.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: It's not like it was just firecrackers. And then Trump
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: just magically had blood coming out of his ear because
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: the decibels were too high. He was shot.
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: In the ear.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: And they had the timirity on CNN to say that
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: the threat of something like this happening was not legitimate.
• 35:59
  Speaker 9: Donald Trump, people around him perceive themselves to be under
• 36:02
  Speaker 9: threat and that's all that matters.
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: That is not legitimate.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: That is wrong.
• 36:08
  Speaker 11: You hear the screens from the audience, people are terrified.
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: What the threat is not legitimate?
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: He was shot and there was another man who was murdered.
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: How can you say the threat is not legitimate? The
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: threat was right there in front of you.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: And she's then attributing to screaming in the crowd as
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: though it's Donald Trump's fault.
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: No, he got shot, Like, how brain did can you be?
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: It just goes to show Trump derangement syndrome is a
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: real thing.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to a break.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: including the Queensland MP who warns locals if they make
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: negative comments about him on social media, they're getting a
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: knock on the door that's coming up in a moment.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Welcome back.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Well, as you can imagine, Donald Trump is dominating tomorrow's headlines,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: but there are some other stories in the papers tomorrow, Caleb,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: what's the Australian got?
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: Thank god for that.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: Otherwise we'd have to spend a whole talking about Donald Trump. Now,
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: actually we could do that, we could do it.
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: For five hours, but drawing rate, it's okay.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: We do have some other yarns on the front of
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: the Odds tomorrow below mister Trump himself, it says Band
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: plan to usurp Alp on left God, I mean Adam
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: Man sadly the leader that Donald Trump is. It's an
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: insult to mister Trump that they have to share the
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: front page, says Adam. Band says the Greens have replaced
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Labor as the authentic party of the center left and
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: will win over voters by taking a robin hood platform
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: to the election, soaking major corporations to fund better outcomes
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: in areas of traditional ALP strength. Hang on a minute
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: they reckon, they're going to be the authentic center left
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: party who's going to represent the fall left. Now, no,
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: we're just moving into alp territory. But again it simply
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: proves what we have known the Greens to be for
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: a long time is watermelons, green on the outside, read
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: on the in side. Because they've been asked that the
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: Australians doing a series of stories on the Greens policy
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: platform and what they would do if we have a.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Series.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: This is it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: So they've asked mister Bant what his platform is going
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: to be if Labor ends up in minority government and
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: you know they potentially have to do a deal and
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: the Greens on the cross bench are providing their support.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: What do you want out of the government, And mister
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: Band says, in broad terms, make big corporations pay more tax,
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: fund universal services.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: So everyone can have a better life.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: And dot dot dot stop opening coal and gas mines.
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: Once upon a time, that would be the first thing
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: the Greens would say, because they're called the Greens for
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: a reason, right they met with the Environmental Party, the
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: first thing they would say is stop the gas and
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: coal mines, not anymore. The first thing they talk about
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: is socialist economics, because they're not concerned about the green bit.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: The green bit is just a vehicle to keep them going.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: What they really want to do is a chief socialist.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: But the other stupid thing is he wants to get
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: rid of coal and gas, but he's going to tax
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: all the billionaires. Where do the billionaires get their money from.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: He wants to expand the social welfare net, but where
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: do we get the money to do that. It's from
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: coal and gas. So his plan doesn't work. He says,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: we're going to have stronger policies. That means just we're
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: going to get to bankruptcy faster as a nation if
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: he ever gets his way.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: And the fact that he's saying, no, no, we don't
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: want to form an alliance with Labor at the next
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: election if it comes to that, we don't want to
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: be given green seats in cabinets, so to speak. He's like, no, no, no,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: we've turned that off and down. We are just going
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: to take more and more of your seats until we're
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: less of a minority party and you guys are on
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: the uter.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: I think it's incredible. He's a very ambitious man.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: To the front page of the Courier mail now.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: NP visits the trolls. A Queensland MP.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Has confessed to using the electoral role to track down
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: and visit voters who make negative social media comments about him.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Labor MB for Rockampton.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Barri O'Rourke has said he did this as a bit
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: of karma and while it was a little bit stupid
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: his words, he could pay these people a visit as
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: he was a fairly big fella that's not threatening at all,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: A rock that's not threatening at all, that's totally fine. Also,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: how busy are you as an MP if you're so
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: obsessed with little comments.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: That people are like, I've worked for three MP's.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: By the way, it's not just you, buddy, they all
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: cap a heaper hate. But you're taking it so personally.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Your ego is so small and wounded that he's like,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: look up their address, I'm gonna go knock it on
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: their door, and then go so far as to say
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I'm a fairly big fella that is so ominous.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Rockampton is the only place in the country where when
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: there's a knock on the door, people say, do you
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: hope it's the Jehovah's Witnesses?
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Rather than mister O'Rourke.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: How can you be a public servant, a public official,
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: a politician like that and go around doing interviews saying
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: you say bad words about me? On, come on, get
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: you like, what did you think you were signing up for?
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, if I spent the last nine years of
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: my career. In fact, I need to talk about this
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: this morning. It's nine years this month since I joined
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: the News Court newspapers full time.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: So you know, in my long and illustrious career, if
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: I had gone and tracked down every.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Single person who had sent me a rude tweet, a
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: rude email, a rude text message, every person I ever
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: wrote a story about who's had it in for me
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: ever since, if I'd spent all my time going around
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: knocking on their doors, I wouldn't have a job anymore
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: because I'd have nothing.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Else to do.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: This is why I never gave you my address.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: Car Hey, that's not true.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: I've been around to your house and drunk all your beer,
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: which in takes for that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the front page of the cans Post.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: The headline says murderer robbed two hundred and forty thousand
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: dollars from across Queensland killer's bank heist. But that's not
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: the most interesting part of this story. It reads that
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: a psychopathic killer who once murdered a man to take
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: over his identity, will be sentenced for a series of
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: robberies across Queensland, including in Port Douglas.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: He'll be sentenced next week. Now.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: The story reads how Alexander Robert McDonald seventy three years old,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: he was wanted by police, but he also was trying
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: to launder money from bank robberies, so he had to
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: change identity.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: He came up with a brilliant plan.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: He placed an advertisement in the paper for a non
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: existent mining job, interviewed dozens of people who thought.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: They were applying for a job.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: But he was actually sizing them up to figure who
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: looks a bit like me, that I could murder them
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: and then assume their identity. So that is one job. Liz,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: you would be thanking the good Lord.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: You did not talk about dodging your bullet.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: I think it explains why we still have an unemployment
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: rate in this country, doesn't it, Because I mean, I'd
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: be scared to go to a job.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Interview eighty eight.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: I'd be sea, Well, what are you saying that people
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: don't murder people in twenty twenty four.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: There's much easier ways to steal someone's identity now, with
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: technology what it is. Well eighty eight, I guess the
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: only way to do it was to make sure that
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: you would never appear again, because I was now you.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: But there was only one way to ensure that.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Are you just vouching for digital ideas.
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: You heard here first.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: On the Lovely A lot of people get their identities
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: stolen now by virtue of the use of social media.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I could start a page tomorrow being like, I'm James McPherson, digit.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I be less murders.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: That's an idea. Let's go and start that Facebook page
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: I am James McPherson, and well you won't have a
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: job by tomorrow Night's and then I can finally move
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: into that middle seat there.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: You never coming around to my house ever again.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: Canberra times, I thought I'd been banned after I drunk
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: all the beer.
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: Let's go can each other.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: We really do get on very well, we do.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: We do it.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: We're like a family here on the late Debate, I
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: have to say, because you know this is a family,
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: I can pick not the one I didn't get to pick.
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: My brother will be riding in now anyway he deserves it.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: Let's go to the Canberra Times. Now, look, Donald Trump's
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: been having a bad time. Joe Biden on that front
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: page there has been having a bad time, or to
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: any who else has been having a bad time. That's
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: the c if emmy. You you would have seen the
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: reporting over the past few days, the infiltration allegedly of
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: for organized crime games, et cetera.
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: Well they've gone bagger that. Let's just go for gold.
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: It says here union should be handed greater power to
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: investigate and prosecute companies thought to be in breach of
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: an Act Procurement Code. The c if emmy, you believe
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: they're going to go to the the Act Labor Conference
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: annual conference and ask that they be appointed to oversee
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: senior public servants. The sea if MEU of all the
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: unions right now is like, yeah, I'm going to stick
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: my head above the parapet and to ask to be
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: put in charge of things.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: They've taken on board that old adage the best form
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: of defense is offense, and they are playing hard.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Indeed, to a few mentions now the Herald Son it's
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: all about Trump.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: The miracle man. I'm supposed to be dead. Trump declares
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: it's a miracle he's alive.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: The Daily Telly same same Trump speaks. Ex President proclaimed
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: shooters near miss a miracle.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: By god, I'm still here.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: The TiSER, same photo. The doctor said he never saw
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: anything like it. He called it a miracle.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: Thank god. He's still in the game, Still.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Sticking it to Deep State, Keep freaking out this establishment
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: because the man's still standing.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Touch not the Lord's anointed.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I say we're going to go to a break, but
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: when we come back, if you're thinking about visiting Barcelona,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: you need to know the locals don't like tourists too much.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: That's coming up with in just a moment.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Welcome back now, calib I've been to Barcelona, wonderful city,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: had a great time there, but might not go there again.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: Well, no, I don't blame you, as the locals would
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: call it Barthelon, but apparently they are so sick of
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: the tourists coming into their town to i don't know,
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: prop up the economy and provide jobs and actually make
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: the place interesting. No, they're so sick of them taken
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: over the joint that they're pulling out water pistols and
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: rolling up to know ol fresco dining at restaurants and
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: this sort of thing and shooting people in the face
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: with water because they're so sick of the.
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: Fact they're there.
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, you thought it was bad enough for Donald
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: Trump having his ears shot off. These tourists over in
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: Spain being shot as you can see there.
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: With order pistols because they don't want him there no more.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Here's one of the locals talking about, we want our
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: town back.
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: The last years the city house turned completely for a tourists,
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: and what we want is a city for citizens.
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: I'm not in serious of stories. I mean, that's amazing.
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: They're literally pulling up crimes tapes so they can't go.
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: And don't they know that tourists keep the economy at floats.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Take a leaf out of the book of the Parisians.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Just be so rude to all the tourists.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: The tourists want to leave and get out of there.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: To some hilarious headlines mocked up by the Babylon b
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: which is a satire basically self made news agency.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: After the CNN put out headlines that.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Read secret service rushes Trump off stage, as he falls
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: at rally.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: He wasn't falling, he ducked.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Another One of the CNN's headlines read Trump injured in
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: incident at rally.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: Well, the Babylon Be thought that they'd join in the
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: fun since CNN is getting all.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Of it at the moment, so get up a few
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: quippy ones of their own. They read Lincoln nods off
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: at play. This is how they say the CNN reported
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: these famous assassinations.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Then there's Caesar injured in a group hug. It was
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: meant in love. It just went horribly wrong. JFK startled quite.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Loud popping noises, so startled he died, unfortunately, and last
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: but not least, move fast A slips during rock climbing
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: excursion from the famous The Lion King cartoon movie.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Of course, I just love this.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: These guys keep taking the mick out of the mainstream
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: media and it's glorious.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: Everyone loves it.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: More people follow the Babylon b i'd say at this
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: stage than CNN itself.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: I can't remember whether it was the Babylon Bee or
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: the Buttuda Advocate, but one of them I saw the
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: other day said that they would just start reporting Iden's
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: quotes verbatim, because that they literally could not do any.
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: Better and he could do.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: And it is at a time like this, I'm so
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: glad that, even at a time when you've literally just
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: had a former president shot at that we can have
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: some fun with it, because, by god, if you couldn't
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: laugh at all this stuff, you'd cry.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Absolutely well, that's it from us, Thanks for joining us,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: but stick around.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: Coming up right now is The Reja Penehy Show.