Latest / The MeatEater Podcast / Ep. 50: Steven Rinella answers frequently asked listener questions with Remi Warren along with Janis Putelis, Garret Smith, and Rick Smith from the MeatEater crew.

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Ep. 50: Steven Rinella answers frequently asked listener questions with Remi Warren along with Janis Putelis, Garret Smith, and Rick Smith from the MeatEater crew. · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Meat Eating Podcast coming at you, shirtless,
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  Speaker 1: severely bug bitten in my case, underwear lissen ea podcast.
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  Speaker 1: You can't predict anything, all right? This here, uh episode
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  Speaker 1: of the Meat eat Or digital radio program is dedicated
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  Speaker 1: two answering many of the most befuddling questions that come
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  Speaker 1: in from listeners and viewers like you who take time
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  Speaker 1: to write in and ask a question. Now we get questions.
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  Speaker 1: We get a great array of questions. Some people have
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  Speaker 1: technical questions. People be like, hey, you know, what's up?
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  Speaker 1: I gotta you know, I'm shooting. I got a hundred
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  Speaker 1: sixty eight grain. Well it loaded at three and fps,
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  Speaker 1: and you know. And some people be like, don't you
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  Speaker 1: think that the Clintons introduced wolves to the West as
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  Speaker 1: a way of disarming the American population because they knew
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  Speaker 1: that the wolves would kill all the animals and there
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be any reason to hunt anymore, and so no
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  Speaker 1: one would have guns and that was the plant. So
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  Speaker 1: that those kind of questions totallyusible. But in the ray,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm just trying to it's a wide array
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  Speaker 1: of Another good example would be the one that we
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  Speaker 1: got the other day about my height. Yeah, how tall.
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  Speaker 1: Are you six ft two inches? That's all you look taller. No,
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  Speaker 1: you're taller than that six funds. So someone wrote in
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  Speaker 1: and was saying, how the eagle is uh tall? And
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  Speaker 1: he was saying, I guess there's I could see some
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  Speaker 1: upsides and some downsides to be in tall. That's it
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  Speaker 1: makes me like, yeah, I wish you would put his height. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so we're gonna do it. We're gonna, we're gonna do
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna do some questions now. I want to dispatch
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  Speaker 1: a couple of the two most common questions these days
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  Speaker 1: coming and it's gonna deal with these real quick. Are
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  Speaker 1: what in the world is wrong with your the online
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  Speaker 1: store where you can get meat, eat your apparel. If
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  Speaker 1: we had, if we had three hours tonight, I'll try
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  Speaker 1: to explain what is wrong with the online everything's wrong
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  Speaker 1: with the online store. Um, there's always like something. It's
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  Speaker 1: mostly a story you go to to see, uh, things
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  Speaker 1: that you cannot buy. It's like a website one goes
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  Speaker 1: to to see things that exists an idea only and
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  Speaker 1: are actually unpurchasable. That's every store for me. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just because yeah, just because you're dirt, ask can't afford it.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm saying this stuff is just because it doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's perpetually out of stock. Um, So that's that.
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  Speaker 1: That will change, and I think that'll change. There's stuff
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  Speaker 1: there there. It is worth going and taking a look.
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  Speaker 1: You can get some There's some stuff on there. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't have any there's no there some great first
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  Speaker 1: light media here, embroidered first light stuff in on there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's there. But yeah, just keep checking back on that. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: There are two questions. People always want to know what's
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  Speaker 1: up with DVDs. I feel like we kind of moved
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  Speaker 1: away from DVDs, not we as a culture, but but
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's DVDs anymore. Yeah, they're in
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  Speaker 1: the work. They are gonna come out more dvs. And
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  Speaker 1: another question is are there a bunch more we put?
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  Speaker 1: Is there a bunch more shows coming on Netflix? Right now?
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  Speaker 1: We have two seasons of Meat Eater up on Netflix.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the best thing to do is just watch
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  Speaker 1: them all the time, and even when you're gone out
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  Speaker 1: of your house, leave it on continuous loop and go
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  Speaker 1: give it a real good rating. Will be the best
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  Speaker 1: thing you can do. If you want more seasons of media.
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  Speaker 1: I mean to generate, you know, to to like you
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  Speaker 1: as a mug at home. That would be a great
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  Speaker 1: thing to do. So that that's kind of like that.
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  Speaker 1: Those are the the questions that are just coming in
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  Speaker 1: coming and coming in over and over again. Are those
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  Speaker 1: three things? And there's and now we're gonna get into
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  Speaker 1: more more stuff like uh, technical ballistics and and um
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  Speaker 1: and then conspiracy theories and smart stuff. But first, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Joannice the Laban Eagle, Good evening. Let's hear dirt myth.
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  Speaker 1: You can't wave at him, Garrett, you gotta actually speak hello.
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  Speaker 1: Good stuff. And then and then um and and then
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  Speaker 1: and then Big Game Hunting Guide author, television personality. They
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  Speaker 1: just hate that television television personality. Remy warrant pasting radio voice.
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  Speaker 1: I really spice things up. Um. So all right, Yann
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  Speaker 1: roll them out. M hm you have. Are you feeling
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  Speaker 1: where you want to start? Like planning, technical, or you
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  Speaker 1: want to go? I'm gonna let you popular word these
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  Speaker 1: days is curate. You're gonna curate the one that you
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  Speaker 1: said you could answer with half of your brain tied up.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to hear your breakdown of the dichotomy
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  Speaker 1: you know what kind of kind of rupt Feel free
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  Speaker 1: to um paraphrase yes, question. If they are word questions,
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  Speaker 1: I will paraphrase. I'd love to hear your breakdown on
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  Speaker 1: the dichotomy between why we need federal management of public
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  Speaker 1: lands but state management of wildlife. I am, of course
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  Speaker 1: playing devil's advocate with this question, but I could see
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  Speaker 1: it may be hard to draw the distinction between why
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  Speaker 1: each is better in their respective application. I like state
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  Speaker 1: management of wildlife. Okay, let me back up. I like
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  Speaker 1: these two issues are half to do with sort of inertia. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so what has been done successfully over time. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna come and say that the federal
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  Speaker 1: government does everything great or that they do everything wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna say that the states always know
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  Speaker 1: better or the states don't know work that they're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I think you have to take these things on a
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  Speaker 1: case by case basis and also look at the historic
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  Speaker 1: context of what's worked and not worked in this country now.
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  Speaker 1: The way wildlife management generally works generally, with the exception
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  Speaker 1: of of of some species that are migratory and fall
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  Speaker 1: under um both state and federal jurisdiction. The way wildlife
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  Speaker 1: management in the US generally works is that wildlife is
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  Speaker 1: owned by the people, by you and me, by the
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  Speaker 1: American public, and it's owned in what's called the public trust. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the trustee, the person who manages this public trust has
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  Speaker 1: generally been, you know, going back over well over a
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  Speaker 1: hundred years, has generally been the states, and the states
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  Speaker 1: manage wildlife very well. Now. You can point to some
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  Speaker 1: cases where, you know, again going back to the late
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  Speaker 1: eighteen nineties, early nine hundreds, where we had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of wildlife species go nearly extinct, and we've we've you know,
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  Speaker 1: recovered them to great effects since then. But you can
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  Speaker 1: go like, oh, yeah, well, have state management so great
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  Speaker 1: or if our modelife management system so great, then how calm?
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  Speaker 1: You know, we almost extirpated the buffalo from the United
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  Speaker 1: States of America. Why did the passenger pigeon go extinct?
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  Speaker 1: And the answer there is because the system we have
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  Speaker 1: in placed now wasn't in place then. We weren't doing
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  Speaker 1: the system we have now. The other thing about state
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  Speaker 1: management of wildlife is that I think that the state
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  Speaker 1: Fish and Game agencies, all fifty of them, do generally
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  Speaker 1: a very good job of managing wildlife as a renewable resource.
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  Speaker 1: I find that states tend to be tend to be
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  Speaker 1: hunting friendly and do a lot of good science based management,
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  Speaker 1: And it's just a system that has served us well
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  Speaker 1: and I don't like to see it get interrupted now.
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  Speaker 1: And then a species might fall to low numbers and
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  Speaker 1: fall under federal protection under the es Air Endangered Species Act,
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  Speaker 1: But the object of that act is to give that
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  Speaker 1: animal protection, add some extra muscle to protecting the animal
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  Speaker 1: with the goal of getting it back off the list.
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  Speaker 1: And when it gets off the list, it goes back
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  Speaker 1: to state management. So state management is where wildlife kind of,
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  Speaker 1: for lack of a better expression, it's kind of where
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  Speaker 1: wildlife wants to be. Now, why it doesn't work with
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  Speaker 1: with why it doesn't make sense to then say, like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so states do good with wildlife, why shouldn't the states
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  Speaker 1: get all of our federal land. Because states have different
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  Speaker 1: obligations with assets like land. Now, a lot of states
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  Speaker 1: cannot run budgetary deficits. And when a state holds land
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  Speaker 1: as an asset and they have a budget deficit, they
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  Speaker 1: can wind up in a situation where they need to
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  Speaker 1: dump off lands to raise money. The federal government is
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  Speaker 1: buffered from a lot of those pressures that come and
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  Speaker 1: go with economic trends and economic times. Now, if you
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  Speaker 1: take a look, a lot of states got one section
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  Speaker 1: out of every thirty six sections as something called school
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  Speaker 1: trust lands. So a lot of your state parks and
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  Speaker 1: school properties and all that kind of stuff is in
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  Speaker 1: what was originally deemed a school trust land, meaning they
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  Speaker 1: were the states were given one section out of every
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  Speaker 1: thirty six to monetize those sections in order to pay
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  Speaker 1: for public education. Texas went in liquidated and sold off
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  Speaker 1: virtually all of their school trust lands. So now if
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  Speaker 1: you ever wonder about the paucity of public lands in
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  Speaker 1: state parks and state forests in the state of Texas,
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  Speaker 1: you can blame the desire to dump lands in order
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  Speaker 1: to get quick monetary gains. When we're talking about the
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  Speaker 1: public land heist right now, what we're talking about is
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  Speaker 1: it's being pushed by people who will tell you that
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  Speaker 1: our federal lands ought to be given over to the
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  Speaker 1: states because people in the states no better than the
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  Speaker 1: federal government, because the federal governments just a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: big bureaucrats off Washington, d C. Don't know they're you know,
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  Speaker 1: I do not what they really want though. What they're
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  Speaker 1: getting at is they want to streamline the process of
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  Speaker 1: monetizing those lands. They're pissed because it might be hard
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  Speaker 1: to get permits to do extreme active industry, to to
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  Speaker 1: do various development projects on these lands. They feel that
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  Speaker 1: it would be a hell of a lot easier to
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  Speaker 1: play ball with the States when you're trying to do
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  Speaker 1: exploitation of land than it is with the Feds. So
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  Speaker 1: they want to move federal lands to stay control because
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  Speaker 1: they know that they will either wind up being privatized
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  Speaker 1: that is, sold off to the highest bidder, or they
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  Speaker 1: will be much easier to develop and do extraction projects
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  Speaker 1: on them. That's what it's about. So ground and critters
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  Speaker 1: are just different kinds of things. Yeah, good answer. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was a long answer because before you answer, I
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  Speaker 1: can answer that in one sentence. I said with with
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  Speaker 1: I said it with relative ease. There's a different questionin
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  Speaker 1: um No, that was one sense, all right, yehnny, what's
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  Speaker 1: the next man cleanliness in the field? Why do you
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  Speaker 1: not use gloves? Okay, use the gloves day you just
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  Speaker 1: cutting up elk with gloves on. Yeah, but when you're
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  Speaker 1: guiding and you're doing it all the time. Here's why
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  Speaker 1: I use gloves. I'll give you the glove defense. Hey man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not opposed the gloves. I don't use him, but
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  Speaker 1: I actually think it's a good idea. You're never gonna
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  Speaker 1: regret using globes. No, because I you know, if you're
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  Speaker 1: guiding or whatever, you cutting up a lot of animals.
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  Speaker 1: First thing, the blood dries your hands out and they
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  Speaker 1: start cracking bleeding. It's actually gets pretty painful, especially when
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  Speaker 1: it's cold. So yeah, some people. But I have got
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  Speaker 1: blood poisoning before, so that's my and it wasn't. It
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  Speaker 1: was on an oak skull that I left out, but
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  Speaker 1: I thought and I poked myself with a knife and
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  Speaker 1: got the old blood poisoning and that was not Uh
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  Speaker 1: So I poked myself in the thumb. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: even remember. I barely remember doing it. I went inside
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  Speaker 1: um afterwards, I washed with antibacterial soap and water. My
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  Speaker 1: friend had called and got a deer, so I went
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  Speaker 1: and helped him get it out, and then I hunt
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  Speaker 1: it all the rest of the week. Uh. We were
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  Speaker 1: in an area where there's a lot of spite, like
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  Speaker 1: in the um timber, and there was like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of spiders in there, so I thought I maybe got
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  Speaker 1: a bit by spider because one day it seemed my
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  Speaker 1: thumb kind of itched, seemed agitated and started to feel sore,
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  Speaker 1: and it looked it kind of grew like a spider bite.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, the the poke was completely gone, it
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  Speaker 1: was already healed, so I didn't really even put you know,
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  Speaker 1: I I vaguely even remember doing it because it was
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  Speaker 1: so minute. Um. Then my thumb really started to hurt
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  Speaker 1: and started to swell up and look purplish. It's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it was a bad spider bite. And then I
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  Speaker 1: went to bed that night thinking this thing really hurts.
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  Speaker 1: And I woke up the next day and it was
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  Speaker 1: nearly black, about twice the size, and my whole arm
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  Speaker 1: hurt all the way up the veins and my armpit
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  Speaker 1: was like and I said, yep, that was and then
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  Speaker 1: I and then I put all the pieces to the
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  Speaker 1: puzzle together and said, oh, yeah, it was from poking myself.
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  Speaker 1: And well, I'll say this, the latex gloves aren't going
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  Speaker 1: to prevent the poke, but prevented some of the intrusion
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  Speaker 1: of blood into the But what it made me think is,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how many times every time I'm out hunting.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my hands right now are covered and cuts.
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  Speaker 1: So if I'm in the blood or anything, and it's
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  Speaker 1: because what I'm relating it to is it was such
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  Speaker 1: a minute poke. It didn't even cut the skin. Really
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  Speaker 1: it would have. It would have been just as easy
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  Speaker 1: to be on the hundreds of scratches on my hand,
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  Speaker 1: So from thorn whatever, exactly anything. I mean, my hands
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  Speaker 1: are covered in that. So when you're in there, if
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  Speaker 1: you got something like that in there, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: then there's been a couple of times where I've cleaned
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  Speaker 1: an animal, eating a sandwich and gotten sick afterwards to
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  Speaker 1: like somebody ship like a client may have gut shot something,
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  Speaker 1: you know, get it on my hands, rub it off
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  Speaker 1: on the snow, eat a sandwich, and I'm violent eel
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  Speaker 1: like food poisoning type the next day. Yeah, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: probably go towards gloves, and um, I wear them now.
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  Speaker 1: Messing with rabbits. I'm trying to remember to wear the
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  Speaker 1: masks with rabbits because of tu lurimia. So rabbits have
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  Speaker 1: a little flee or might out of you know, and
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  Speaker 1: that they can bite you and give you a uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a bacterial infection and they kind of get
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  Speaker 1: you all over your arms and everything. But I've been
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  Speaker 1: wearing gloves there to prevent those little sons of bitches.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'm probably gonna start doing it. Now. I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you a little insider trick. We're up hunting on
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  Speaker 1: now Nevak Island. The uh chupic eskimo that we're hunting with.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people do this, but they
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  Speaker 1: have an idea. Like when you're butchering animal in the
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  Speaker 1: super cold, it's just very hard to keep you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like the meats warm, but after a while,
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  Speaker 1: your fingers are just gonna get cold. They put on
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  Speaker 1: a light wool glove and then put the latex loves
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  Speaker 1: over that light will glove, and man, does that make
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  Speaker 1: it nice. I've done that before, weather cold, weather, field work.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a whole different deal man, because you did.
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  Speaker 1: Even when you get that warm blood in your hands,
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  Speaker 1: the minute you lift your hand away from that thing,
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  Speaker 1: it just hands. Yeah. But I will say, though, I
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  Speaker 1: think when I'm filming or doing anything for t V,
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  Speaker 1: I don't wear gloves because I think it looks weird.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like the way it looks really yeah, just
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  Speaker 1: like I don't know, but I mean I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I do intentionally. But you know, also if i'm I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, just it's just easier to wipe your hands
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  Speaker 1: off sometimes if I'm messing with a camera or something. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it's talk about the hygiene gloves. Oh yeah, No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking like when I'm cleaning an animal. Oh yeah. See,
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  Speaker 1: I always in mind the lookout for things because I'm
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  Speaker 1: always on I'm always worried about stuff that's like, um,
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  Speaker 1: just like turning into a candy ass. So when people
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: first out of hiking with walking with ski poles, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I'm not gonna do that because that looks
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  Speaker 1: like one more step in the direction of candy Assess.
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  Speaker 1: I felt the same way when people started using gloves,
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  Speaker 1: like because I'm always trying to push I'm always trying
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  Speaker 1: to like people who think that everything is so risky
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  Speaker 1: and dangerous, you know, like who are just like people
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  Speaker 1: who are like bizarre about all the stuff they won't
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  Speaker 1: eat and they won't go near this, and and I
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  Speaker 1: just always like, you know, I'm always a little leery
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  Speaker 1: of like over danger the over dangerification of America or
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  Speaker 1: the perception of danger. So I lump those things. Then
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  Speaker 1: with this problem with people thinking everything is too dangerous
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  Speaker 1: all the time, however, I have come to I have
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  Speaker 1: many dear friends who hike around with trek and poles
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  Speaker 1: people's and I have many dear friends who wear gloves,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't think that they're hysterical and worried about
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  Speaker 1: everything being dangerous. Makes sense, You got you, you're cool
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  Speaker 1: on all that dirt mean certain things I don't do.
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  Speaker 1: I will never put chapstick on. Come on, but I
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  Speaker 1: got two tubes. I got two tubes in my pocket. Right,
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  Speaker 1: we can't even talk anymore. This conversation podcast over that
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  Speaker 1: has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. If
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  Speaker 1: I shake someone's hand and they have lotion e palms,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little leery of that person. Chai chapsticks thing, No,
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  Speaker 1: it's just my mind when I chick. But I use chapsticks.
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  Speaker 1: See chapstick to me, you put chapstick on when your
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: lips are bleeding, and you can put it on for
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the duration that it is bleeding. That is okay. But
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: if your lips are not bleeding, chapstick should never touch
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  Speaker 1: you like I use it prophylactically. Oh no, you're addicted. No,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: it's like it's like Garrett and it's chew. You're speaking
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  Speaker 1: a categorically absolutely addicted to you. I do use sunscreen.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: What is that? Okay, it's preventing cancer, so chess alright,
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  Speaker 1: they got dirty cool so far. I'm just curious if
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  Speaker 1: you had any bad uh ill effects from not wearing
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  Speaker 1: gloves like remy story throughout you know, the ages other
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  Speaker 1: than I can't think of anything that's happened to me
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  Speaker 1: that it would not have happened. Now, I can think
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: of a couple of hundred things that would have not
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: have happened if I was wearing cutproof gloves. Now that's yeah, yeah,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean my hands, you know, nick,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: my every I mean everybody that nick and knuckles and
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean that just happens. And yeah, like
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: cutproof cloves. But then you lose some of your dexterity.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: But you don't lose your dexterity with with yeah called
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: late tex clos I don't know if they see all
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: these keep into but if you nick yourself and then
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: you cover it up, I mean I would just generally
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: put it on like if you cut yourself bad, then
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: you can put the glove on keep everything out of
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the fresh you know. That's when I pulled the gloves
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: out the other day. I pulled them out after I
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: kept myself in my kid. In my kit, I carry
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: um alcohol swabs, So those little square single serve alcohol swabs.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I carry alcohol swabs. I carry um, you know, some
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: sort of triple like neo sporing, triple antibiotic ointment. I
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: carry band aids and I carry tape, and I am
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: very careful about when I get a cut processing, you know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: doing field butcher. And I do ship good with water.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Then I do ship really good with that alcohol swab.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Then I put triple antibiotic ointment in there. Then I
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: put a band in on it, and then I seal
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: it up with med tape. Yeah, that was the best
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: doctor job I've had in the field. Yeah, I'm admin
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: about carrying those things. And I got like a little
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I got like a real heavy duty little super sort
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: of a little envelope. Yeah, you know, a sealable like
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: reusable double sealed envelope. And in there I keep all
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: that stuff and I keep it righting my kit. And
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: so that might be part of things, because I've had
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of infections, Like when you're cleaning fish, Like
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: let's say you're cleaning uh um quill bag rock fish
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: and you put that dorsal, one of those dorsal spines
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: into your hand, It's just gonna get infected. Man. You know,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: follow up question when you got diagnosed or the askers
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: follow up mine, when you were diagnosed with blood poisoning.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Did they explain like exactly what happens in that instance,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Like obviously the elks blood got through the cut. You
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: know what it was. It was a it was an
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: old skull, right, yeah, well it was a it was
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: a fresh skull. But I left it out in the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: sun and then it started to stink. You know, it
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: was like I had yeah, yeah, so because I packed
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: it out, put it in a bag, left the bag
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: there and like sunbeat on it. Gosh, that stinks. I'm
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: just gonna saw the skull and then poked myself somehow.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't even know if I you know,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I must have been with a knife or something something.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Did they did? They treat it with a souped up antibiotic, yeah,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: and ivy and then yeah days no, I did it
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: was only two days of ivy and then or however
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: long of the souped up pills like four pills at
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: every you know pill every four out or whatever it is.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: It's just like a random enough bacteria that there's not
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: seen like often, and so when this happens, it's just
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: it's so heavy duty and it attacks your body with
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: such strength that you have to take those kind of measures. Right, yeah, well, yeah,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: somehow what happens what I'm no doctor, but I'm assuming
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the best. Yeah, tell me. Okay, So I started hurting
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: right here. Um, No, So the bacteria is essentially in
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: your bloodstream because you're the reason my arm pit was
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: swoll up was my lymph nodes were trying to process
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: the bacteria from getting it to the rest of my body.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Is what I gathered. But ye think we should do
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: another question. Yeah, that's a good follow up question. Yes, Oh,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I like this one. That's wrong kind of dead meat
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and we've only got two done. Man, all right, Um,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: a little prayer phrasing here. Uh, my name is Matt.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I shot a white tailed dough six pm Friday evening. Um,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: we treat the deer tampi in the same night temperature
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: was cold, but coyotes got to my dear first. They
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: started eating the hind quarter. My question is should I
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: still eat the deer? Yeah? Why not eat what the
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: eat was not messed up with? The select the side
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the coyotes put strychnine in the air or something. Yeah,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: it's affect anything. If you're worried about it, just trim
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: off where they bit. Yeah, unless the deer turns to werewolf.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah something weird. Yeah, of course, man, I mean just
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I would trim around any kind
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: of damage they did. But yeah, that's a big deal. Man.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I've got more friends that that's happened to. Now. Carl
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Malcolm has had that happened to him. He hit an antelope. Uh,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I care if he's bow hunt. Maybe he's I can't here.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I think he's bow hunt. Hit an antelope and gave
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: it a half hour and went down to track it. Now,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: when he went down the goalie where it ran into
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to track it, he heard an antelope run off and
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: then he's like, shoot, I got a bad hit and
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I just bumped it. Then he waited a long time
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: later until he started hearing all kinds of coyotes yepping
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: and carrying on. Then he goes down there and in fact,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the one was laying right It was laying right dead
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: where he thought it was. The one that ran off.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Must have been something else or jumped another antelope bot
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: there and just in that or a period of time
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: while he was nearly present, like nearby, they gottadn't start
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: messing it all up. Yeah, trimmed it up and used it.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't even remember. I don't remember the detail.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I remember that part of about remember what
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: happen from there. I'm just saying, like people, you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: you hear a lot about people losing stuff to coyotes.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I would be, you know a lot of guys of
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: bowl hunt, you know, they'll get it hit and they'll
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: come back in the morning. I would be, we never
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: did that. I don't like to do that. I'd be
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: extremely reluctant to do that unless I live in the
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: area that had very low coyote numbers and it was
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: like about ten degrees below zero. I killed an elko
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: my bow one time, and we were out and it
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: was a bad grizzly area. I killed in the evening.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Um it was you know, when we started working on it,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: it was already dark, and we didn't want to gut
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: it because we knew that if we gutted it, the
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: smell of the gutting would have grizzlies all over it.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: And this is early season and days were pretty short,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: and so we just went back down to our tents
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and got our stuff and slept and then went back
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: up there at first light. And it was a cold night.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I went back up there at first light and thought
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: it would be cool, and some meat around that bulls
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: ball sockets on the rear hams had already started to sour.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: We lost probably I don't know, five ten pounds of
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: meat from around the ball sockets on the back hams.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: So um, yeah, you gotta get after it. I was
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: wondering people are talking about, oh yeah, we went back
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: next day, and then I'm thinking about the weather, and
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, maybe this isn't part of the story
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: you're telling me. But there's no way that things. There's
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: no way you didn't lose parts of that. In my experience,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I've I've like if I make a shot or even
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: you know, you just don't know. You don't want to
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: push the ad because the last thing you want to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: use push the amy you will not find if if
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I have an archery line or something, they shoot it
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: elk or something further back. The last thing I want
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: to do is push it because I know I won't
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: find it, you know, but I know if I leave it,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I'll find it. Um This year, my dad shot a
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: meal dere in August in Nevada far back. You know,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: we left it overnight. We found it, you know, pretty much.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know after sent up, but you know, I've
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: been sitting there. It was warm, but all the meat
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: was good. I've never lost any meat of anything I
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: found the next day, not wanting that only had me
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: that one time, and that was the only time I
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: ever had left something ungutted overnight. I mean, I feel
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: like an elk is age different. It is different, but
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I mean I've had I've had hunters that we've we've
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: gone back the next day to find him. Most of
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the time it's probably pretty cold, and I can't and
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: just in my experience, I can't personally think of losing
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: any meat, and I feel like we often. I mean,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I am because because I've maybe because I've never lost anything.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I'm the kind of opinion better be safe than sorry
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and just come back tomorrow. Yeah, if I hadn't had
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: that experience, and yeah, I mean, it'd be really helpful
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: if I knew, if I could tell you, like, oh,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: the air temperature was this. I remember it was like
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: not below freezing, but a cool night. And we were
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: back up at first light. So it was in September
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and I killed it right at dark. We were back
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: at first light, and it was it was like unquestionably
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: soured around the ball joints. So alright, we never lost
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: the single one that I can remember in Colorado in
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: ten years that we would leave and I don't know
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: that might have been saying you never lost any meat
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: or we never lost any meat really, but the one
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that we that we once in Arizona, we left the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: bowl overnight, found him first first thing in the morning.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: He was shot at dark, found him first first thing
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: in the morning, and we lost half that olt. Did
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: it rain that night, but it definitely didn't get blow freezing.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: It was probably like a you know, mid to low
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: forties kind of an evening. Yeah, I can see it.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, elk retain heat so well that I can
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: see it happening without. But I think, dear, I think,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you'd probably be better off maybe letting
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: him say if it was a marginal shot and pushing
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: a gut shot. Dear. Yeah, you gotta think about it too.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's really I don't want to belabor the point,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: but yeah, take serious. What what Remmy is saying here
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: about not pushing stuff? Yeah, not pushing animals, because because
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: if you get a questionable hit on an animal, it's
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: very likely going to run off and not far and
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: lay down and probably die. Now, the thing about pushing
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: him is it's not that if you go after something
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and push it, it's not that you're prolonging it's life.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: You're just moving it to a alce. You're not gonna
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: find it like that thing. Maybe he's gonna be live
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: for X amount of time. Now, if he spends that
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: tire that time that he's alive hauling ass, he's gonna
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: be you know, he when he expires, he's gonna be
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: out of place where you have no way of finding
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: him if there's no good blood trail. So yeah, you
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: gotta be careful not to. Yeah, you just gotta wait
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: your options. I've been in. I've been in that situation
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: quite a number of times, especially when I was younger,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: when we like a lot of us friends, family, like
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of people out doing a lot of bow
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: hunting for white tails and doing you know, like in
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the month of October, in the month of November, spending
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: you know, having a lot of blood trailing experiences throughout
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: that time that you're getting that thing where you're going
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: along on a trail and all of a sudden you
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: hear something crash off in the brush and you just
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: get that sinking feeling like, man, this is gonna turn
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: into a chase, you know. Yeah, this one comes from Emmett. Renny,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be a great help on this one. Emmett
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: would like to go to New Zealand. D I y
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: red red stag on public lands. Does not want to
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: hire a guide or go to a ranch, not even
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: really want to hire you remy I on guide. He'd
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: probably go with this orchestrate. He doesn't want to hire
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: an orchestrator. An orchestra. What about a concierge. You can
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: you can write a few chapters of a book off
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: this question, But um I can answer that question. Let
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: me back make sure I got it right. He wants
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: to go to New Zealand and do a d I
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Y public land red stag hunt. Got it. I don't
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: know the answer, but I'm guessing that's hard. Okay, Yeah,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: here's all he has to do. I mean, first he
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: has to have realistic expectations if he wants to be successful.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: He's not going to shoot a big giant stag like
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: he sees on TV. So if he knows that going
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: into it cool, then he'll have a great time. Then
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: the only other thing he needs to do just go
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: on the Department of Conservation website New Zealand Department of
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Conservation website and study it because it will show him
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: essentially everywhere he can go that has red deer to hunt.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: So finding the spot, which is kind of the hard
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: part of hunting. Sometimes where should I go? They'll just
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: pretty much tell you where to go, and unlike here
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: where they just kind of give your general area, they'll
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: tell you exactly where you can access the trailhead a
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: phone number to call to get permission to cut through land,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: and you can be on your way. I mean, it
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: wouldn't hurt too Maybe make some friends via the social
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: media that's out there of people that hunt and kind
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: of pick their brains and don't ask them necessarily where
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: they hunt, but where they might think about. If you
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: go to someone say what do you think about this
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: place or this place and be friendly in a conversation,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: you'll probably find that you'll get a lot of help. Yeah,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: it's you have to go out of your way to
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: find a kiwi that's not gonna be friendly, friendly and
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: give you some info. Yeah, And I mean, I'm sure
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: there's some people to take the approach oh stay up.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: But to be honest, most people are like, oh, yeah,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: that's awesome. And really, if I lived in New Zealand
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: or whatever and an American was like, hey, you know,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: where could I go, I'd be like, I would give
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: them information because someday I may want to go hunt
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: in America and see what their world's all about. And
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: it's just a great way to connect with people. I mean,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I've I've met a lot of cool people while being
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: out there, and I've met people on the trails out
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: there and been like, oh, hey, next week we're going
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: to this spot. Want to come with us? Yeah, I'd
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: love to. And you know, it's just uh it's just
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: a really friendly hunter friendly place. Aren't there some permit
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: draw hunts for red deer? Yeah they are, but um,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: you know that if you're going over for the first time,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: just I wouldn't even worry about it. I just go.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: They are they're they're They're an extremely difficult access the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: permit draws, aren't they in Like it's some part of
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the island that's very difficult to be in. Yeah, so
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: it's actually getting more popular in a lot of places there.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: There's like a fiord Land Wappety block which is like
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: our elk and that's so during the roar is the
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: only time you can go in there any other time,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: but there's like permits just during the peak of the rut. Well,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: so that's not red deer um. There's some some of
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: the units have read deer, some of the units are
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: more elk, A lot of them are crossbread. Okay, I go,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: but yeah, first time that you don't need to worry
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: about messing with that. Yeah. And then there's a there's
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: a book you could buy online. It's called spot X.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: It pretty much marks every hunting spot on like a
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: really easy to read map tells you how to get there.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: And what the people saw. It's pretty easy. Wow, spot X.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: That guy came to the right place. Many Brandon asks,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: how about a workout guide slash tips for a Midwest
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: person planning a fall elk cunt in Montana? I think
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: we just did this for a long time, recently talked
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: about this subject. Let's move on to different stuff. One
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: time I was gonna know, didn't we did? We talk
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: for a long time. Yeah, in Colorado, just to walk
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: all the time up and down. It's not about trying
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: to get your neck thicker than your wider years. It's
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: about endurance. Can I add something to that though, because
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: this is a lot. If it's okay to answer this question,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: then we can just add a little bit. This is
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: this is my take because I've you're if you're gonna
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: come to Montana wherever and do a hunt, Okay, you're
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: doing all this workout to be ready, but you're gonna
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: be wearing a pair of boots that you've walked in
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: for a couple Just just talk about this. I'm like,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna do, here's what you should do. If
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: you're gonna go hunt next year where you're hunting boots
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: every day to work. Where are your hunting boots every day? Like,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna wear a stiff pair of boots, a
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: pair of Canna track boots takes fifty miles to break in,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: and that's and when you start walking up hill they
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: break in different. So whatever boots you're gonna wear, you
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: need to wear them every day. Yeah. I was just
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: talking about this just as important. And I was saying,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: when people are gonna talking about I'm going on this
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: big Old West your hunt, what should I do there?
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, what knife should I get? I'm like, no,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: no, no no, there's two days you need to do. Get
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: in good shape and break your boots in. And no
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: one ever ever does either of those two things. I
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: deal with a lot of people on their first LT
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: hunt or like first time out West, or even guys
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: that just aren't used to it, come out all hunting.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Everyone's feet or tore up. They never believe you. They
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: can't like there's something in the human mind that cannot
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: accept that it takes a long time to break boots
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: and boots and feet. Yeah, I mean if your feet,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I've seen feet that are so tore up it cripples
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: you more than being out bad feet. I've seen feet
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: problems ruin more hunts than any other cause what I do, um,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I walk around barefoot. I'm sorry, you're hearing from right
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: now from a man who's wearing a pair of ugs.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: These are mugs. They're man hugs. They were made before
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: They're from Australia and they were made before uggs ever exists.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: They were a gift. And you're lounging. You're lounging around.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: You know, I should point out he doesn't actually have
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the next, but I do. I do walk around barefoot
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: a lot to break my like callous my feet up.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I walk around like I actually hike barefoot quite often,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: just to get him tough. What's the next, Brad asks, Well,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: he's first. He says, he's a first generation hunter, new father,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and he's looking forward to the day he can take
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: his kids out in the field. He's interested to hear
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: how you Steve plan on introducing all the thing is
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: a lifestyle activity to your kids. Oh uh, that's a
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: quick question. Well, my kids like at our house when
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: you know, when they when we eat dinner at night,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: we just eat game meat um, and then we talk
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: about that. That's the first step. I think that's one
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: of the more important steps. First off, is they just
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: have that approach, so when they sit down, their assumption
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: is is that we're eating dear me um. And I
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: think that starts to put I feel that's kind of
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: put them in the right mind frame of how to
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: think about animals and understanding because it creates a lot
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: of conversations about where the stuff comes from, what it requires,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: what kind of sacrifices on our part as society requires
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: to you know, maintain productive wildlife populations, and what goes
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: into harvesting wildlife, and and getting into conversations about sex
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: and death and stuff like that. That's been a that's
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: been a key thing and getting my kids interest in
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: the outdoors. Um. The other thing that that, uh, that
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I I like to do is is take them out
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: um fishing, because I think that kids can you can
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: have good experiences fishing with kids much younger than you
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: have good experiences hunting with kids. I take them out
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the areas sometimes where it's like high like high action fishing, right,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: catching a lot of fish. But I don't want to
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: spoil them like that, so you know, sometimes we'll go
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: to areas where it's not high action, But I think
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: mainly was trying to make it fun and try to
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: force him a little bit and push him a little
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: bit and and get in there and bossom around a bit,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and you know, and showing that the whole that everything
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: in life isn't just someone telling you how great you're
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: doing it everything, but also to be sensitive to um
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: their attention span, whether or not they're comfortable. My dad, uh,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: he pushed us really hard and put us into a
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: lot of physically uncomfortable situations. He was a big ice fisherman. Um,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I froze my fingers bad a couple of times when
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I was a little kid. You know, I kind of
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: looked back and marvel that didn't backfire like that. He
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: didn't push us away from wanting to be in the
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: out of doors with some of the approaches that he took.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I tried to make those mistakes, but I try to
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: also realize that you are sort of showing them, um,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: that a good life skill is to be comfortable being uncomfortable.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, just I guess, even though that all
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: sounds somewhat contradictory, I guess it's a approaching it not
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: in a haphazard way, but but making an approaching way
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: where you're sort of thinking it out, making a plan,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: weighing where the kids at what they're doing, and just
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: try to act in a conscientious way as you bring
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: them into the world. And um, I'm sure there's a
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: hundred good ways of doing it, and probably one of
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: the keys is to do it in a way where
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: you're analyzing, You're you know, you're you're you're thinking about
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: your next step, and you're being mindful with it and
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: not being blase about it. How about you got young kids? Yeah, no,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: it's been Uh, it's been interesting. I think that, like
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: you're saying, being conscientious about how you do it and
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: making sure they're having a good time. Um, And I
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: think that putting the time in now and really and
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: just and just taking a step back and being, um,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I guess humbled by the situation and just knowing that
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: like because I'm always thinking like, oh, I'm squeezing an
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: antilope punt, I'll take my daughter with me. Well I'm
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: not really squeezing an anilop punt at that point. It's
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: like I'm taking my daughter hunting. And it's like it
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: just changes the whole game. You have to be out
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: there not really thinking like, Okay, what am I gonna
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: do to kill an antilope? It's like what am I
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: gonna do to make sure she enjoys herself? Yeah, maybe
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: we'll kill something, maybe we won't. But um, and I
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: think that I think I could see, I could see
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: how would be very easy. I don't know it's many
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: people to do this, but I can see how it
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: can it be very easy to say, oh, I'm gonna
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: hunt with them when they're like older and they turn
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: into you know, more mature people, and then they can
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: just hunt with me as opposed to happen to go
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: through the process that we're going through now late Well, yeah, exactly,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: it's kind of too late. We're like, like you're saying,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: start them off fishing with some high action fishing, because
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: you know then that will turn them into like big
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: game hunters. Although I've taken her probably on just so
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: many big game hunters as I have fishing trips. Um,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: it's you know, a carrier on my shoulders all the
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: way up to top of the ridge. Then we make
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: like a yard walk down the ridge and I carrier
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: in the dark, you know, back down to the truck.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: You know that's kind of the end of the hunt. Um,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: but it's uh yeah, it's like just taking the time now,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like and then hope. I'm hoping then in
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: five years it's gonna pay off. Oh yeah, you can't
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden wait to your kids like a
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: teenager and be like, sound, there's this thing I like
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, it's just like, you know, maybe that
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: will work for you, but it's not gonna be as good.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Another trick I try, I should call a trick. Another
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: thing that I noticed works for people and it works
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: well for me is don't start filling your kids heads
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: up with ideas of like big white tails or certain
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: fish being cool and certain not fish not being cool,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: and like, oh, king salmon, now that's a great fish.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: But pink salmon, you know, if we catch one, sure,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: but may think it's king salmon. You know, when you
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: kid catch the fish, it is it is time to celebrate.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I don't care if it's you know, a mountain whitefish
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: or a pink salmon, or a bluegill or a rock
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: bass or a chub. It's like when your kid catch
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: the fish, that's something. Bitching fish is the coolest thing.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: In the world. You've always wanted to get one like that.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: You go home, you make a big deal out of
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: cooking that fish. Moms, like, man, that's the best fish
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I ever had, Right, it's exciting. It's not like there
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: is no like, oh, it's just a pinky there's a
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: pink salmon. No, it's like, man, dude, you call the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: coolest fish in the ocean, because like they're just you know,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, kids are simple, man, I mean there's like, uh,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: they put a high value on getting approval from people
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: they respect and um, and for me, I don't need
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: to act like I think chubbs and pink salmon are cool.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I do think they're cool. And I let them know
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: that I think they're cool, and then you know, I
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: kind of amplified a little bit and just like that
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: kind of encouragement. Man, what's another question, Johnnie. Was there
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: ever a hunt or a view? I'm guessing a view
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: as in like a beautiful landscape they got you emotional
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: or in parentheses cry what was it? Now? This is
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: under the category of miscellaneous fun. Oh yeah, yeah, I'll say, Okay,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: was there ever? So the question is was there ever?
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I will say yes, there was yes, there was no
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: oh really yeah, uh couple of yeah, some of were
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: too hard to explain. Um. One example was watching a
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: One example was watching uh a indigenous you know, and
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: an indigenous person in in South America build an arrow
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: with native materials. Um. One was like living somewhere a
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: long time and then moving away a long time, and
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: then going back to that somewhere and kind of remembering
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of things that happened there. Ship like that. Yeah,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: very a different times handful of things. And then things
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: surrounding you know, um, my dad dying and my dad
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: at old age wasn't like he died young, but like, yeah,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: things surrounding my dad dying in time we spent in
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: the out of doors definitely happens. Well you yeah. I
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: mean I can think of lots since I mean like actually,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: um yeah, like the first first d that meal deary
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: that I shot with my recurve, you know, I mean
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: it was like a very you know, I was like, okay, well,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: you know, like a lot of work went into it
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: and it happens, and I think that's you know, it
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: can be like a rush of emotion. Um yeah. I
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of things that I've seen. It
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: was like, holy cow, that's a crazy view. And it
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: makes you really sit and think about things. I mean,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I remember one time sitting um actually where you guys
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: went to deer hunting this year, up on that ridge,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: and I mean, it's a moment I'll remember for the
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: rest of my life and just laying up looking at
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: the stars and it's like on the top of that
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: ridge the stars are almost below you, and thinking, oh
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: my god, I feel so small, you know, so this
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: is weird just being here, you know, those kind of thoughts.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I was there day I took my six year old.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: My six year old played hooky with me for half
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: the day because I took him to the rifle range
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: and we're coming back from the rifle range and we
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: drove by, uh a house we were renting before we
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: moved into the house we recently purchased. And as we
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: were driving, we're driving over a bridge and we were
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: looking at a beach where we would always swim and
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: looking at a place where we would fish perch and
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: my six year old and I was like, oh, yeah,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I remember, Jimmy, this is like you know, and you know,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: it had only been a year ago, but when you're six.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: It's like a humongost check of your life. Right. And
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: he said to me, he says, sometimes I'll remember things
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: and it makes me cry inside my brain, but in
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: a happy way. And I'm like, yeah, man, I don't
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: know what you're talking about, dude, zick what you're talking
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: about that? Yeah, I can't follow that one up. Jimmy
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: gets the quote of the night. That's a good one. Uh.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Does the state target beginner hunters with once in a
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: lifetime tags out of the assumption they're less likely to
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: fill their tag? No? No, next question they won't even know.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Does hunting become work when it's your job? Is that
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: a trick question? No? Okay, that was inherently that was
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: a paraphrase version. When my season, this is the full question.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: When my season ends in December, I start to think
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: about next season, doing it month after month. Does it
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: take away your love for the outdoors, for the excitement
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: of the accomplishments? I guess what I'm saying. Does it
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: just become your job? No? No, I mean I'm very
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: aware of what my job is. Oh, but here here's
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: a good way of putting now. And I'd be curious
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: to hear Rammy's take on it. Um, I guess my job,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: my job has My job was like to two things, right,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: So it's having experiences as a part of my job.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Translating experiences is a part of my job. I think
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: that having the experiences is really no difference, really like
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: very similar to probably anyone's enjoyment of like meaningful life experiences.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Right like when I'm out doing it, if we're out
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: on a hunt, you know, the old before like a
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: hunt that I was gonna write about, or now we're
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: out filming a hunt, the actual hunting part. It just
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: feels like having an experience that you want to have
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: and it's playing out how it plays out the work
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: for me, And I don't mean and I don't use
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: work in a negative way because I'd love to work.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: The work for me is or the job aspect is
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: translating it into something that that is pleasurable, entertaining, informative
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: for other people. I guess that's like the work part.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: But I love that part. But I think of that
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: as the work part. I don't think of like when
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: we're actually out on the mountain, you know, like filming
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: a hunt. I don't know it doesn't feel to me
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: at all like, um, like, oh man, I'm at work.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I'll say to people, I'm like, yeah, we know, well
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: we're out at work. We eat a lot of mountain house.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: But it's just like a sort of a shorthand way
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: of explaining that I'm out. But it doesn't feel like that.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's different you guys who are there because
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: you're not actually hunting, and then you know Remy, I'm
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: sure it's got different. I think from a person to person.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I think all of us on our crew and a
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: lot of people that we hunt with, you know, like Remy,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: we're brought up in families where work ethic was pushed
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: very hard. Are like we're not scared of the hard
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: work and the physical work, and it's not like you
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: go like you're not dreading that out there. I mean,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: there's plenty of people that would come on days with
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: us and be like the hell with that, but like
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: for us, it's it's fun and so yeah, I think
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: I think when in quotations, when people say that like
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't become work, it's like, no, it's like we're lucky
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: enough that our in quotations work is this great thing
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: that we enjoy. Yeah, productive, Like I'm only happy like
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: being productive. It could be like being productive as a parent,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: or or being helpful and productive as a husband, or
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: being you know, like like I I don't like idole.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I don't like idle moments. And so when we're out,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: it's like two fold because one one thing is you're
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: out doing something that I love and have always loved
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: and that I set out wanting to find a way
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: to make it work as for a living. And the
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: other hand, I am doing something, I'm producing something, and
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I just I feel nothing, but but good
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I do. I'd have to agree with you though. For
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: me as a cameraman, it is work with the duty
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: to the responsibility to capture what you're trying to convey
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: to the larger public, like that the physical activity, the
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: long days, whatever that's in like camaraderies all there's a
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: big technical aspect for you because you're dealing with love equipment.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: So it is it's definitely a combination of like, this
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: is exactly what I want to do, but also like
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: there's this uh accountability for what we're experiencing, and it's
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: work to stay focused on that. Like you can't just
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: internalize this experience you're having to work to, you know,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: keep track of it and make sure you capture it
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: to its best ability. But it's it's definitely different than
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: most people's work. Oh yeah, no, you like you as
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: a caraman, I would be more like you said, like, yeah,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: like you've been working all day, like you've been doing
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: your craft all day. Yeah, I've been doing the same.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: So like you know what I'm hunting. It's like like
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: the way we work though, um, the hunts are the
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: hunts are like in large measure, what happens is what
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: would happen in the absence of the cameras without a doubt. Yeah,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I mean to to almost like a stunning degree, we
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: found a way to do it where like where where
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: what would happen is happening. There's some things that that
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: that are that are different. Everything seems to take a
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: little bit longer, a little bit different, But you know
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me. We're it's like we're out there
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: like um, like like creating some creating some false spectacle. Yeah,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like I've never worked. I haven't worked
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: a day in my life in my job. While working
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: extremely hard at the same time, because I enjoy it,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Like if I wasn't, I feel like when it becomes work,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: it is definitely difficult. Otherwise everyone would do it. You know,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: there is an element where you have to really dig
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: in and work really hard. I mean, I was telling
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: you the other day, Well, I'm actually I'm just like
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: a lifestyle guy. I loved hunting so much. I knew
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: since I was a kid that I wouldn't hunt. I
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: could hunt every day. I'm the type of person that
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I could just do this every day. And when I
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: graduated and was a younger man, I said, how am
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I gonna be able to hunt every day as I'm
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to do it guiding. So when I
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: first started guiding, I worked my ass off. I mean
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I would pack out elk all night long just to
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: be there, show back up first thing in the morning
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: to go back out again to be successful, and constantly
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: be hunting. Remy would have his clients back sleeping and
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: he would go out in the dark and walk looking
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: for tracks in the snow. Oh yeah, I would. I
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: would go out and scout just like drive roads, looking
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: for where elk we're crossing, you know, look for tracks anything,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: come back, pick him up head back, you know, just
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I mean because it was tough work, but I loved
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: it because it's like, this is how I can be
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: outside hunting all the time. And then over the years
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: it's morphed into other things TV, this, that and the
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: other thing. But still I only do it because that's
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: the way that I want to live. So as long
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: as I can make a means to be out there hunting,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: it's it's the same as it's always been. Now there's
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: times where yeah, you feel like, oh dude, and and
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: it's maybe a little bit different for me. I think
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: if I had a family and other things, then would
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: feel more like an obligation, whereas you guys, you guys
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: have that because you have other obligations. I have at
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: this point no other obligations, so I don't have that
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: pressure of when I go out hunting, it's not me
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: detracting from other obligations I have in life, you know,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: it's it's my only obligation. So for me, it never
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: feels like like work. But I could see it some
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: times feeling hard, like just like anything where but I
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: don't think it would ever take away my love of hunting. Yeah,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: that is a big downside is the family is she?
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: But I think that probably goes beyond the I'd speak
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: to that, but it kind of goes beyond the scope
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: with the of the question is asked, what's next? Yes, Um,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: we've done this one before, but I think we can
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: just touch on it again because I think are about
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: the Clintons and the wolves. That's actually true. Ran into
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: a guy today, right, Oh yeah, tracks wolves? Yeah? Can
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: we talk about this guy? No? I don't think all right. Oh,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: but the question is, um, how do you air travel
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: with meat? Oh? Do these coolers and dry ice regulations
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: of the airlines approximate cost um? We have a very
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: good sece them, um when it comes to butchering your
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: own So we butcher our own stuff. And here's what
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: we do when we're traveling. If we get it, when
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: we kill an animal, we butcher it into primal cuts,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: so basically break it down into into muscles. And then
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: we have trim bags. Okay, so you gotta broken down
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: your big muscles, anything you're gonna grind up for burger sausages, whatever,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: We call that trim. We put all of it into
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: gallon sized ziplocks labeled put a real good chill on
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: it or if need be, freeze it. Then pack those
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: into coolers. Now we use the soft sided YETI coolers
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: those forty as forty Yettie hoppers because they don't weigh anything.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Because when you pack, when you check a bag on
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: the airline, you know it's it's gotta be fifty pounds
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: or else you gotta pay extra. So when I load
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: a box up with fifty pounds of meat, I want
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: to be as much meat and as little cooler as possible.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: So that's why we started using those hoppers, because you're
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: when you pack a fifty pound box, you got forty
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: plus pounds of meat and not like half and half
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: cooler to meat ratio. Fly at home, then as soon
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: as we get home, we divvy that up. Take those
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: bags home, properly, wrap them and freeze them. What do
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: you uh, what will you normally chill them in? It
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: could be anything. Man, We've done someone We've gone up
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: and gone in, eating in a restaurant and then being like,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: hey man, here's the deal, right, we have ben had
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: cold weather and chilled them outside. I've done I explained
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: another thing I've done before and kind of got in
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: trouble with it when I mentioned it on a I
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: was on an NPR program once and mentioned the strategy
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I had for chilling meat and then the rate, and
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: then they got a couple of complaints that I heard about, um,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: and I got reprimanded by it from the network for
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: saying what it was. But that's a good it's a
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: good meat chilling strategy. Um. Other what you put chill
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: on stuff, well, I would say, we gotta be you
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: gotta be cautious with the hoppers and dry ice. Oh ship, yeah, man,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: those things are air tight. Don't put dry ice in
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: the hopperable up like a hand garnaide. You know what
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: you can do though? Yeah, but I think because the airlines,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: if there's a potential for it, I stick a straw
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: in there and then I'm like, it's vent Yeah, I
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: don't you we don't. We don't use dry ice just right.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: We did one time we have overnight at the hotel.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah out yea one night. We couldn't find a good
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: chill player. But you know, a lot of guys man
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: like like some taxidermists have coolers, some butchers have Some
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: butchers will do meat storage. The Seattle Airport, for instance,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: has a has a guy there I can't remember. His
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: name was like Ken's like freezer and he's right in
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Sea Tech Airport and you can bring him a box
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: and he just put in the freezer and charge you
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: like a nominal fee to leave it in his freezer.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: We've gone in and uh, not long ago I gave
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: We had a guy go home with the meat. He
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: just went to his hotel. They found some freezer space
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: for him. Some hotel rooms have those little mini fridges. Uh.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: We're just out in Colorado hunting and we had a
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: place that had one fridge. Turned the freeze around full blast,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: put everything into put everything in the freeze, or you
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: can put turn the fridge all the way down, putting
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: the fridge, swap it around. You know. It's like once
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: you get the body heat off an animal and get
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: a chilled it's remarkably stable. Man, it's remarkably stable. I
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: do a lot of the same same things you guys do,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: but just a reminder if you do try to use
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: dry ice, to throw it on top, not the bottom,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: because it'll freeze if it's on top, but if it's
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: on the bottom, it'll just refrigerate whatever is in there.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: If you're trying to freeze it. Oh, if you lay
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: something up, yeah, as long as because the dry ice
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: the cold drops, so the temperature is actually colder underneath
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: dry ice. Then if you put the meat on top
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: of the dry ice, and so you're saying loaded. So
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: if you want to, you can use dry ice to
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: refrigerate or to freeze. So if you want to use
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: dry ice to refrigerate, you put dry ice on the
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: bottom of the cooler, your meat on top of, like
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: above the dry ice. If you want to use dry
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: ice to freeze, you put the meat in the cooler
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: on the bottom and dry ice on top of the meat.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: You know that. That's funny you mentioned that because I've
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: seen that where um trying to chill stuff in coolers
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: in the hotel. We just went and bought a few whatever,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: like one two palm blocks dry ice, and then I
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: threw the dry ice on top and it froze solid. Yeah,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: froze the damn meat. Yeah. Yeah, started freezing the meat
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: downward slid. Yeah. Yeah, actually freeze it like colder than
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: a freezer. One. My kids love to play with that stuff. Man,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I found I've always done it that way.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: But I also found a new method that I'm trying
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: out and I'm just um, you can find if you
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: can find a place ahead of time, if you know
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: where you're hunting, that will air freight it because you
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: have to have a licensed air freight. So I used
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: to have that license and then after then I had that.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: I had an air freight license, but it changed after
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: so but the air freight, So from Alaska, I could
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: I got a whole moose home for a hundred and
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: fifty bucks air freight. I used to have what was
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: called known shipper status un Alaska Airlines, and you could
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: go and check a bag and not be on the plane.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: You could send the thing down. Your body just goes
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: down to the baggage claim, picks up your bag and
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: walks up the door before you can do with the
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: air freight. Air freight. Um, as far as the cost
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: aspect of that, so we all fly a fair bit,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: you know I have on Alaska Airlines, you know I have.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: You get the frequent flyers status. IOUs get my first
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: two oftentimes my first three bags free. Um. But if
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: you're not doing that, I mean you're it's go on
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: the airline's website and find out what extra baggage costs are.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I know some guys that to save costs bringing meat
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: home that will go to an FFL send their rifle home.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: So you can send your rifle to yourself. Um, you
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: don't even need to use an FFL to send it
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: to yourself. If you're gonna be on the receiving end.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Orders guys to just do rifles shipping where they package
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: it up and ship it down to you charge of
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: small fee. It's cheaper than having an extra bag. And
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: then they'll take all their clothes and any kind of
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: light bulky items put in the box and send a
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: ups ground and get it. So they're gonna own check
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: like one to three bags on the airline and have
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: to be there just flying home with their meat so
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: they can get it there quick and not try to
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: be sending it ups or something like that because it's
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: you know, overnighting or two day and can be very expensive.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: So they'll mail their gear home fly home with their meat. Yeah,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: and you can only mail your rife firearm through United
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: States Postal Service. You cannot use but you can go down.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: This is kind of like a little known fact man,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: as you can if you're gonna be the one that
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: opens if you're gonna be the one that receives it.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: You can opens it, you can send it. It's not
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: an FFL transfer core for you to send your gun
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: to someone. But all over place, like all over places,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: they're like hunting destinations. There are services that will box
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: and ship your rifle. Yeah, through the United States, so
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: through yeah, but that's just like they'll just you know,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: they got all the yeah, because you can't just you know,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: you have to you gotta package it up and stuff. So, um,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: you've got time for one more. This would be a
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: good quickie and uh get some nice tips out of it.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: But um, I forget the guy's name to ask with
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: the gal. But favorite piece of gear under twenty bucks. Hmm,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: think about it. One piece of gear, one piece if
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: you have to, you can say two. If you have
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: two favorites, go your answer. I'm just still thinking cigarette
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: lighters and then um, chunks paracord. That that's what I
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: would have said. Dang it, that just got yeah paracord lighter.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: I mean use it for everything that's way less than bucks.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: You still got you got because you got left. Yeah,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: because the striker on the jet boil doesn't last long.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: It's like a cigarette lighter, dude, It's like, yeah, what's
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: the thing you camping you got cause you got your
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: load around it lighter? You need four? You have four lighters,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: one for every pocket, jackets all over. At the end
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: of the trip, you'll barely be able to find one. Yeah,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: you'd be like yeah, and then you'd be the guy
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: who goes like, hey, do you kep on? You get
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: your lighter on? You duct tape? Put some duct tape
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: on your lighter or your steve yeah you know, I
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: like yeah, put like, um, yeah, I wrapped duct tape
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: around my lighters. And different people use different colors. You
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: can kind of claim your lighter wrapped my nalgene bottle
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: or whatever with it. But in para cord, it's like
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I don't like that. Yeah, I mean when it comes
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: to hunt, it's just like I always have a chunk
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: of para cord. Oh zip, I carry zip strips, cable ties.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Those are inexpensive. I use those for last suff putting
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: tags on animals, but also just like various repairs, backpack fixes.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: I mean lots of like in my little kit, which
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: is a very small bag, but it's it's put together
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: in a precise way. Um. I guess nothing in that
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: the bag itself about eighty bucks from outdoor research. No, no, no, no, no,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: they're not that the no, the little uh the bad
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: country organizing, back country organizer, what do they Okay, so
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: that's not that gear, my outdoor research, backhuntry organizer. Nothing
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: in that bag, um, including like a little bit kid
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: I have with a with a bit that fits all
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: the things like your bo parts, rifle scope parts, whatever
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: kind of bit, whatever bit kid I grab for what
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: I'm doing that doesn't even cost twenty bucks, and an
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: indore I got like my med kid, which definitely doesn't
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: cost twenty bucks. Japstick Grammy doesn't carry that um which
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't cost twenty bucks. You start a fire with chastick though,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: that's my you know what my fires, you know, my
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: go to fire starter is now taking belly button line.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: No close uh, because the t s A guys don't
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: want you flying around with the chemical arders. I take
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: cotton balls. I take one of dirt miss chew tins, Okay,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: and then I take cotton balls and rubbed vass lene
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: into cotton balls, pack those in there and then I
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: take heartwood, slivers of heartwood and put it in the
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: chew tins. So in my chew tin is vas leine,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: rubbed cotton balls, and a shipload to fit in there.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Some heartwood sticks are in there, and that's it. And
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: then I have vas lean when I need it. If
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: you need to protect your if bad wind chap or
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: you know, chap lips that it doesn't happen to remy
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: or any nuther things. You got chast with Manny. Those
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: little balls light right up and start fires, great man,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: and the t s a guys don't steal them. That
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: is definitely does a cost of twenty bucks, I found
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: there's some good like some surprisingly cheap headlamps that are
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: really good too, like the ones you get at home depots,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: some energizer ones or ray Vack ones or some battery
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: company ones. I got the world's most expensive headlines and
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: it's just as good as the seventeen dollar energizer that
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: No one asked about the headlines, but I got some
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: real opinions about headlands. Will say that for an our time, Dirt,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: you got any things you like to cost twenty bucks?
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: I think like you get drunk. Yeah, transportation. No, I'd
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: say for sure, just a kit. You gotta have a kid,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: and you can do it for under twenty bucks. Just
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: put it in something that stays organized. It's like, no,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: you can't make the whole kid for owner twenty bucks.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: I think so. I mean the basics, like lighter pechord,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: the pcord that we buy, well, yeah, fifty, it's like
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: fifty yards of that or yeah, everything in my kit
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: added up is worth well over twenty but nothing in there,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: no individual part of my kit excluding the O R.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Bad Country Organizer. What kind of what bag do you
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: run for your stuff? Same? You run the same thing? Yeah,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: what do you use? Remy kind of dumps it all
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: into his backpack and it spends all this day looking
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: for it. You know when I when I'm using my
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: normal backpack, everything has a specific place and I have
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: specific pockets. Okay, so this I've just been seeing you,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: even seeing me frazzled my friends. He had known I was.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: They're producing a great adbundage. Not the one I wanted though, Um, Johnny,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: twenty dollar piece of gear, something that probably lives in
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: my little war back country kit. I'm trying to think
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: something you guys haven't mentioned war Snake, but I don't know.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: It might be over twenty bucks. They I think, I
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: think you're a penny editor. You're saying, there's no way
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: you're gonna come and tell me that that's your most
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: chairsh No, you guys like you know, picked out all
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: the good stuff out that little kid um you know
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Len's wife is a is a pretty nice piece of
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: gear that's well under twenty bucks. I always love to
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: have a wyndicator, like a tube of powder unsented talk pop. Yeah,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: And like, I think it's bullshit that people are always
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: trying to like being like, man, that four dollars it
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: costs me for that vindicator because whatever they do, they
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: somehow make the puff these stuff so much better and
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: finer than when you use it all up. And then
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: you're like, I'm just gonna throw some baby powder in there.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Hunt with so many guys that are pulling out there,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: you know, big fat tube of baby powder and they're
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: shaking it. It ain't coming out, it's clogged whatever that
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: it's what they put in there, I believe, And I
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: don't know. I've never tried to find it in bulk.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: It's unscented talc powder, which is baby powder. It's just talk,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: isn't it. I don't know. Unsented baby powder smells like
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: like well we think babies smell like, is actually powder.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: I liked it. This is probably super simple, but I
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: just had thought of it for your wind indicator. My lighter. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: that's all I use. It depends if I'm like around here,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: I grab that. Yeah, just crumple it and click it,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: and the spark in it just makes it smoke for
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: a while. But a lot of times I just used
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: the flame itself. Yeah, tell the wind direction. I mean
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: you can't really sense thermals and other things. But for
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: the most part, I flick the lighter depending on which
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: way that flames blowing. I know. And it's nice too
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: because I can use it in the dark. So I
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: I that's I keep my lighter as my wind indicator. Yeah,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: I use like um and I use the grass as well. Yeah,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: bits of grass, seed, tops, all stuff. Um. Dust like
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: the main thing, like if it's there, if it's dry,
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  Speaker 1: just dust, but if it's wet out. The reason I
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  Speaker 1: liked a little and I'm not like a habitual what
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  Speaker 1: do you call those things? The week caround like wind
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  Speaker 1: indicator windicator. It's just a tube of powder, like a
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: little bottle of powder. Shoot it up the air. It
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  Speaker 1: does give you a really sort of like nuanced understanding
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  Speaker 1: of the whim when it hangs, like it'll go up
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  Speaker 1: and you'll see that there's like some downward you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. It gives you like a great visual.
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  Speaker 1: But I only use that after I sort of go
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  Speaker 1: I like, do a quick look around. I'm like, there's
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  Speaker 1: no like readily, you know, and then I'll that thing
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  Speaker 1: or I'll pull a little down feather out of my
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  Speaker 1: jacket and just we pull at all of those drop. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I would say, actually with the gear question, this is
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  Speaker 1: this brings up a good point this most recent discussion.
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  Speaker 1: It should have multiple purposes whatever it is under the bucks,
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  Speaker 1: like the lighter being a syndicator and a light and
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  Speaker 1: then you know, yeah, I'll not gonna look at my
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  Speaker 1: kit and be like, you know what this It seems
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  Speaker 1: like this thing you have to have in there, but
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  Speaker 1: twenty years down the road you've never used it. It
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  Speaker 1: hasn't come up yet. Like for I used to carry
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  Speaker 1: a striker, so I would carry a I have a
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  Speaker 1: little teeny dinky thing of waterproof matches's just a couple,
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  Speaker 1: and I have my lighter, and I used to have
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  Speaker 1: a striker. Never used a striker, just like it used
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  Speaker 1: the waterproof matches, probably, But that just gives me that
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  Speaker 1: that makes me feel like or now I put a
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  Speaker 1: little what's that like saying it's a comfortable. But they
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  Speaker 1: also make those little ship and lighters too, so I
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  Speaker 1: might start throwing one of those little ship and lighters
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  Speaker 1: a little. It's just a striker, just like like a
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: like a like a cigarette lighter and a teeny teeny.
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  Speaker 1: But see here's the thing. The t s a guys
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  Speaker 1: will steal your lighters and leave a note. Now you
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: just keep him on you. I know that thing, you
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: got that, but you gotta remember. So now like lithium
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  Speaker 1: batteries like in my kit, I also keep like enough
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: like replacing battery for stuff. So if I'm running like
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: my uh my, my water pure fire starry pen, they're
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: gonna have in my kit an extra lithium battery for
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: that thing. But now you can't have lithium batteries. So
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: now there's all this garbage you gotta move from your
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: you gotta like and I can't just check my kit
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: because there's stuff. There's stuff in there that you can't
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: carry on, but then there's stuff in there that you
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: can't check. It's really like, I have some gripes. You
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: think I'm fired up a by how I hate hunters
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: orange laws. I got some real gripes of t s A,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: I believe it, and then messing with my stuff. All right, good,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: thanks for listening. How many questions is that? Ny? I
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: don't know ten probably answered other questions in the perfect
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: So if you want to find out, Rummy wears the
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: best place for people to go see what you all
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: got going on, and they want to book a hunt,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: come hunting elk with you whatever. I'm all booked up.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: But Instagram, yeah, Remy Warren, Yeah yeah, I just I
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: just I just I just hit I was just hitting
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: Rammy up on Instagram or because we've been hanging out
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: for the last couple of days. Um, that's a good
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: place to check out see what you've got going up.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: And there's the you know, in the in the bio,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: there's always a link to whatever website or whatever. So
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: all right, man, check him out. Remmy Warren, his great
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: great grandfather was a you translator. I'll tell you that
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: no one asked about that. UM all right, good night,