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Not Aliens… Angels? | Will Blesch | The Week in Bible Prophecy · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, welcome to the program today. Mon Zalez here
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Speaker 2: in studio and we have a very special guest all
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Speaker 2: the way from Israel who has written a phenomenal book
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Speaker 2: from Israel.
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Speaker 1: Welcome, Will, Thank you so much for having me. Thank
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Speaker 1: you so much.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you you have a new book out called
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Speaker 2: In the Shadow of Goliath and the subtitle Angels, Giants,
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Speaker 2: UFOs and the Hidden History of the Watchers, Nepheline and
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Speaker 2: the inter Dimensional War. This is this is right in
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Speaker 2: our wheelhouse. And so you know, right out of the gate,
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Speaker 2: maybe introduce yourself to our audience who might not know
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Speaker 2: about you, and give us a background of what you've
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Speaker 2: been doing and how you came to write a book
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Speaker 2: like this.
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Speaker 1: Wow, well it's kind of like an end depth story.
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Speaker 1: First of all, my Yeah, my name is Will Bleash.
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Speaker 1: I'm a dual American Israeli citizen. I live in Israel.
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Speaker 1: I've lived here for almost twenty years now, so a
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Speaker 1: pretty long time. And my background is in media marketing.
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Speaker 1: I've been involved in politics here and basically like but
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Speaker 1: when it comes to the book, when it comes to
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Speaker 1: the research that I did on that. First of all,
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Speaker 1: I've always done a lot of writing, and I've always
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Speaker 1: been very heavy into research regardless of the subject. But
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Speaker 1: this particular thing intrigued me because if I go way back,
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Speaker 1: my mom, it was a or is a gigantic science
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Speaker 1: fiction free and she was really heavy into the original
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Speaker 1: Star Trek. And when I was a kid, she sat
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Speaker 1: me down. She had a friend who videotaped or like
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Speaker 1: taped tape recorded the entire series off of regular broadcast
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Speaker 1: television and gave those VHS cassette tapes to her and
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Speaker 1: she got me, sat me down. We did like this
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Speaker 1: gigantic marathon when I was about nine years old, and
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Speaker 1: I got hooked on science fiction and the whole idea
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Speaker 1: of there being other beings outside of humanity really really
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Speaker 1: really intrigued me, and so I, you know, I devoured
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Speaker 1: all kinds of books from regular science fiction, you know,
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Speaker 1: Isaac Asimov, of all the classics and that sort of thing.
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Speaker 1: But it also really kind of opened up a like
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Speaker 1: a spiritual aspect to that like existential kind of questions
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Speaker 1: even when I was nine years old, and so I
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Speaker 1: wanted there to be something more right and when I
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Speaker 1: was twelve years old, my mother had gotten a job working.
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Speaker 1: She was a neonatal intensive care nurse, and she had
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Speaker 1: gotten a job in Virginia, and we'd moved there. We
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Speaker 1: were living out in the in the country and for
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Speaker 1: the time being when we first moved there, we had
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Speaker 1: moved in with my aunt and her husband who were
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Speaker 1: renting this place out in the out in the boonies.
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Speaker 1: And so me and my cousins, my sisters, my cousins,
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Speaker 1: we're out playing in this field. And if you know
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Speaker 1: anything about the like the landscape of Virginia, it's very
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Speaker 1: it's a very wooded state, you know. And in the
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Speaker 1: place where we were living, there was this gigantic field
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Speaker 1: and that was connected to the house that my that
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Speaker 1: my aunt was renting, and there was a tree line
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Speaker 1: at one end of the field, which was really far off,
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Speaker 1: and then there was a tree line that was a
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Speaker 1: lot closer like towards the back of the property. And
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Speaker 1: as we're playing out there, it was around I don't know,
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Speaker 1: you know, what photographers would call magic hour. So it's
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Speaker 1: probably like six six in the evening or so. The
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Speaker 1: sun was starting to go down, and we're all playing
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Speaker 1: out there, and off across the tree line, all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden there were these three lights. And at first
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's just a you know, like
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Speaker 1: a jet and it's the jets running lights or whatever.
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Speaker 1: But these lights were up probably they weren't like right
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Speaker 1: over the tree line. They were pretty high up in
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Speaker 1: the sky, like around cumulus cloud level, right, And they
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Speaker 1: started moving towards us. And I didn't think anything of it.
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Speaker 1: As they started moving toward us, I just kind of
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Speaker 1: like I glanced up, I saw it, and I went
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Speaker 1: back to playing. But a few you know, just like
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Speaker 1: less than a few minutes later, they were coming a
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Speaker 1: lot closer. They were a lot bigger, and there was
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Speaker 1: three of them, and they were in a triangle shape
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Speaker 1: and there was no noise whatsoever. And as it goes over,
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Speaker 1: it's a black triangle with these crimson lights at each
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Speaker 1: corner of of this triangle shaped ship, right or craft
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Speaker 1: or whatever, and it's just gliding over and I was like.
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Speaker 3: It's our ufo.
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Speaker 1: It's so awesome, you know it Just like I was.
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Speaker 1: I was like, I was, right, there really are aliens
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Speaker 1: this kind of thing, you know, And because I think
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Speaker 1: I was like eleven or twelve at the time, and
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Speaker 1: it just I had seen et close Encounters with the
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Speaker 1: Third Kind, you know, all these things were like Empire
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Speaker 1: Strikes Back was my favorite film at the time, and
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Speaker 1: it just, you know, blew my mind. Here's this thing
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Speaker 1: going over, and I just it was proof that we
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Speaker 1: are not the only in my mind right, that we
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Speaker 1: are not the only intelligent species in the universe. And
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Speaker 1: so it goes over. It reaches the other tree line,
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Speaker 1: which is a little ways off in the distance, and
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Speaker 1: it just paused, like it stopped, and it just hovered
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Speaker 1: there for just a couple seconds, and then all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, it just goes. It went so and it
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Speaker 1: was so fast like it was there, and then it
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Speaker 1: just shot up and it was totally gone. And me,
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Speaker 1: I wasn't the only one who saw it. My cousins
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Speaker 1: saw it as well, and we all went running inside
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Speaker 1: to tell the adults, to tell the grown ups, and
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Speaker 1: nobody believed us, like and the whole thing was like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you've been watching too much Star Trek, and it just, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it really ticked me off at the time. I believe
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Speaker 1: that I actually think like my mom and my aunt
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Speaker 1: have actually kind of come around since then. And you know,
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Speaker 1: I think they actually do believe that I did actually
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Speaker 1: really see something, and my cousin's also saw it. But anyway,
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Speaker 1: this this was like proof to me that there was
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Speaker 1: something that we can't you know, totally explain, excuse me,
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Speaker 1: and it set me off on a kind of like
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Speaker 1: a journey. It wasn't like all at once. It wasn't
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Speaker 1: like something that I, you know, just dove straight into
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Speaker 1: all the UFO literature that I could find or something.
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Speaker 1: But as I became a teenager, I started having a
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Speaker 1: lot of questions and you know, I'd heard from my
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Speaker 1: mom and from you know, the rabbi from the Conservative
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Speaker 1: congregation that we attended lots of different things about God
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Speaker 1: and angels and this sort of thing. And he answered
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Speaker 1: my the questions that I had, but they were really
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Speaker 1: unsatisfactory answers, and they were very surface level, right, and
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Speaker 1: they it seemed like they were designed for, you know,
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Speaker 1: something that you would tell a seven year old basically.
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Speaker 1: And it wasn't just his answers. I had lots of
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Speaker 1: Christian friends and they basically had the same kind of
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Speaker 1: answers that you know, this rabbi was giving, and they
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Speaker 1: were getting their answers from their youth pastors, the local
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Speaker 1: Baptist church and this kind of thing, right, And so
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Speaker 1: I was super like not uninterested in biblical things, but
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Speaker 1: I was like, once I had these answers which were
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Speaker 1: really unsatisfying, I was like, well, that's maloney macaroni. I'm
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna look elsewhere, right, And so I got really
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Speaker 1: heavily into UFO literature, but also really heavily into New
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Speaker 1: Age stuff and into WICCA, into a lot of alternative
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Speaker 1: spirituality sources, right, And I read all kinds of stuff
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Speaker 1: about and Hinduism and Buddhism, and I just read voraciously.
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Speaker 1: And I didn't I didn't like decide to follow any
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Speaker 1: one of these particular paths, but I was busy absorbing
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Speaker 1: their philosophy and their theology, and I thought that there
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Speaker 1: was some truth in all of them. But none of
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Speaker 1: them were very satisfying either. At the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: if you followed the rabbit trails that you know, towards
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Speaker 1: their logical conclusions for a lot of them, I was like,
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Speaker 1: it's not so great either, And so I kind of like,
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Speaker 1: by the time I was in my twenties, I was
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Speaker 1: like focusing on career stuff on family things, and I
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Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I'm not going to worry
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Speaker 1: so much about the spiritual side of things. And you know,
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Speaker 1: maybe there the stuff that I saw when I was
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Speaker 1: a kid, I do think it was real. Maybe it
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Speaker 1: was from some intergalactic you know, civilization. Maybe there really
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Speaker 1: are aliens from other planets, et cetera, et cetera. But
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to worry about it because they don't
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Speaker 1: really impact my life that much. And I just kind
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Speaker 1: of went went on until I moved to Israel, which
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Speaker 1: actually was after one of the worst relationship breakups that
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Speaker 1: I'd ever had ever, and it was that was actually
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Speaker 1: my very bad reason for moving to Israel, was that
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Speaker 1: I wanted the biggest, you know, change that I could
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Speaker 1: think of, and at the time that was well changed
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Speaker 1: my whole circumstances, my whole environment. I'm going to go
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Speaker 1: all the way overseas. So I did that, and you know,
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Speaker 1: I had orthodox Jewish friends, I had friends that were
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Speaker 1: completely secular, and I had lots of conversations with them.
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Speaker 1: Then my mom had actually become a believer way before I,
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Speaker 1: way before me, and you know, like a real believer,
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Speaker 1: a real follower of Yeshua, of Jesus Christ, and she
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Speaker 1: had Every time that I talked to her, she would
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Speaker 1: always bring stuff back to the Bible, and and I
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Speaker 1: was I found that incredibly annoying. And she was like, well,
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Speaker 1: you you really should read this and read this, you know,
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Speaker 1: and not just the Hebrew scriptures, but you know, also
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Speaker 1: read the Kadishah and the New Testament, and like there's
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Speaker 1: nothing you know, you don't like, there's no harm in
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Speaker 1: actually reading it and finding out what it has to
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Speaker 1: say for yourself, you know. And I'd been like, I
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Speaker 1: was like, well, I've already read part you know, I've
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Speaker 1: read this, and I've read this and I read why
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Speaker 1: why should I? She's like, no, go and just read
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Speaker 1: it from beginning to end.
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Speaker 3: Do it.
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Speaker 1: And so eventually, because she nagged me, and you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm busy, like trying to tell her about yoga and
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Speaker 1: all this stuff that I'm doing, and she's like, why
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Speaker 1: don't you just go read it? I'm fine, you read
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Speaker 1: everything else.
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Speaker 3: Why not this?
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Speaker 1: Yes, that basically was the gist of it. And so
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Speaker 1: I did. And I can't say that I had like
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Speaker 1: this epiphany, like I'm sure there are people who have had,
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Speaker 1: you know, some testimonies of Jewish believers are like Jesus
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Speaker 1: totally showed himself to me, and I, you know, now
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Speaker 1: I'm a believer. That didn't happen for me. My journey
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Speaker 1: to becoming a follower of Jesus Christ was much more intellectual,
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Speaker 1: and it was much more of a I need proof,
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Speaker 1: I need some kind of evidence. I need something logical, right,
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Speaker 1: And the progression of the Hebrew Scriptures and its fulfillment
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Speaker 1: in the New Testament that was something that really began
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Speaker 1: to convince me. I can't say that it totally convinced
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Speaker 1: me at the beginning, but it began to convince me.
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Speaker 1: And eventually I got to the point where I did
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Speaker 1: you know where I was like, you know what, if
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Speaker 1: he is the way, the truth and the life, and
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Speaker 1: he's telling the truth, then he's the one we've all
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Speaker 1: been waiting for. And maybe he's the one that I've
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Speaker 1: been waiting for, and I'm just going to take the plunge.
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Speaker 1: And so I actually did this stereotypical kind of prayer
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Speaker 1: and I was like, if you really are who you
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Speaker 1: say you are, you know, make you basically make yourself
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Speaker 1: real to me, and I will follow you forever. And
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Speaker 1: he did, and so I did and I'm still doing
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Speaker 1: it right, and it was you know, when you to
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Speaker 1: count the cost, there was a cost for me. I
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Speaker 1: lost pretty much every friend that I had because I
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Speaker 1: made a point of going and telling each person because
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to hide it. There's a there's a
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Speaker 1: thing here where a lot of anti missionaries will be like,
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Speaker 1: you know if uh Messianic Jews, they try to hide
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Speaker 1: there who they are. They passed themselves off as real Jews,
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Speaker 1: and they tried to you know, sneak in and steal
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Speaker 1: Jewish souls, you know, and I'm like, I'm just going
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Speaker 1: to be open about it, and like this, this is
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Speaker 1: this is who I am, this is what I believe,
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Speaker 1: this is how, this is what what I just told you.
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Speaker 1: That's what I told everybody, right, And I lost a
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Speaker 1: lot of friends, almost all of them. I think I
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Speaker 1: have two people who didn't completely ditch me, but they
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Speaker 1: are not the friends that they used to be, right, Yeah, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And so there was there was a huge cost to it,
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Speaker 1: but it was and that happened about five years ago.
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Speaker 1: And one of the things that I noticed as I
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Speaker 1: was doing all of my research is that there are
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Speaker 1: a lot of traditions within Judaism but also within Christianity
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Speaker 1: that have become doctrine and that tend to obfuscate what
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Speaker 1: is actually written in black and white in the Hebrew
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Speaker 1: scriptures as well as the New Testament and the surrounding
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Speaker 1: Second Temple literature. And I began noticing patterns that connected
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Speaker 1: a lot of what's actually written to things that are
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Speaker 1: described within both New Age and UFO communities by abductees,
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Speaker 1: by experiencers. There's a lot of overlap excuse me of
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Speaker 1: overlap and correlations there, and that intrigued me, like and
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Speaker 1: so that's was the beginning, that was the impetus of
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Speaker 1: writing the book.
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Speaker 2: Maybe give us a synopsis of why the title in
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Speaker 2: the Shadow of Goliath?
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Speaker 3: What does that even mean?
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Speaker 2: Because there's a subtitle which we mentioned earlier, But why
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Speaker 2: bring up Goliath?
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Speaker 1: Sure, so, Goliath is representative of a rebellion that was
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Speaker 1: never actually eradicated, right, that extends down to today in
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Speaker 1: a spiritual sense, in a very real spiritual sense. And
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Speaker 1: talking about being in the shadow of Goliath is pretty
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Speaker 1: much being in or standing in the shadow of this
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Speaker 1: ongoing cosmic rebellion until Jesus comes back and wins the day.
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Speaker 1: There is a war that's going on, and all of
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Speaker 1: us are born into it, and there's nothing we you know,
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Speaker 1: we're not exactly pawn, but we're we we have no
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Speaker 1: how should I say it. We weren't the ones who
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Speaker 1: started it, and we're not the ones who are going
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Speaker 1: to finish it, but we are definitely born into it.
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Speaker 1: And we're not supposed to be inactive players spectators.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, not spectator for sure.
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Speaker 1: So that that that's basically what where the hole in
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Speaker 1: the shadow? That's where the title came from, because I
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Speaker 1: do talk about the origins of that cosmic rebellion, and
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Speaker 1: I talk about implications and potential directions for where that
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Speaker 1: rebellion is ultimately going to end up finishing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know, when people think about because you
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Speaker 2: interact with so many topics, you know, the nephelem and
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Speaker 2: UFOs and even everything where where things are heading in
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Speaker 2: the current.
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Speaker 3: Moment, and you know, one of the.
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Speaker 2: One of the things you discussed in there maybe provide
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Speaker 2: for us because again, as you said earlier, very evidence oriented,
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Speaker 2: very scientifically minded, how do you tie those together in
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Speaker 2: the sense of evidence that you present in the book
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Speaker 2: for people, how do you get from basically nepheline in
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Speaker 2: Genesis six and other passages to modern day UFOs. You
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Speaker 2: talk about David Grush, you talk about all things are
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Speaker 2: happening in congress. How do you bridge that gap? But
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Speaker 2: what is the bridge there?
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Speaker 1: First of all, that's a very hard question to answer.
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Speaker 1: There has to be a foundation, first of all. And
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Speaker 1: that foundation is a framework which is provided by the
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Speaker 1: Hebrew Scriptures and the New Testament, what is considered canon. Right.
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Speaker 1: It provides a framework for non human intelligences, for beings,
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Speaker 1: for entities whatever you want to call it, that are
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Speaker 1: not human, but that are impacting our history and our
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Speaker 1: future history. We know them as angels. But angels is
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Speaker 1: just a an umbrella term, right, Angels is malach and
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Speaker 1: all it means is messenger. And there can be human messengers.
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Speaker 1: There can be, and sometimes there are humans who are
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Speaker 1: actually called angels. Within the Bible, there are the But
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Speaker 1: there's all these heavenly beings, right, or what we consider
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Speaker 1: to be heavenly beings that exist outside our time and
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Speaker 1: space and that have agency and that do whatever God says,
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Speaker 1: or if they're rebellious, they don't, right, But that's that's
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Speaker 1: the the foundational layer. And one of the things that
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Speaker 1: makes the connection is the fact that number one, these
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Speaker 1: these beings have been interacting with humanity for thousands and
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Speaker 1: thousands of years. They were in existence before the Earth
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Speaker 1: was created. They were there, you know, in the Book
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Speaker 1: of Job it says that the morning stars saw the
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Speaker 1: Earth's creation and they sang for joy. And then you
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Speaker 1: have there's there's these alternate explanations going around that seem
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Speaker 1: to riff off of the Biblical explanation, but that completely
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Speaker 1: skew it. And those those are things like the ancient
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Speaker 1: aliens theory that you hear on the not the Discovery channel,
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Speaker 1: on the History Channel, and you know that were inspired
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Speaker 1: by books by Zachariahcichen or Eric von Denikin with Chariots
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Speaker 1: of the Gods, and in that narrative, it's intergalactic aliens
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Speaker 1: from EON's past who came to Earth and they ended
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Speaker 1: up becoming our gods. Well, in the biblical version, these
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Speaker 1: beings don't originate from some other star system, but rather
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Speaker 1: wherever God happens to be in his dimensional space. So
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Speaker 1: they're interdimensional beings. But one area where they overlap, where
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Speaker 1: both of these things overlap, is that like Timothy Alberino
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Speaker 1: has said. I don't know if you're familiar with him
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Speaker 1: or his book Birthright, but he has made the argument
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Speaker 1: and he's absolutely correct that angels within the Bible can
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Speaker 1: fit the term or terms alien and extraterrestrial. And how
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Speaker 1: can that be, Well, angels are not human, therefore they
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Speaker 1: are alien. Angel's place of origin is not Planet Earth,
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Speaker 1: therefore they are extraterrestrial. And if that's the case, and
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Speaker 1: descriptions of certain species within the angelic umbrella, if they
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Speaker 1: match or have some kind of overlap or correlation with
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Speaker 1: beings described by abductees and UFO experiencers, well then there's
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Speaker 1: that's that's the connection, right. And if you begin to
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Speaker 1: make those connections and you follow them again to their
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Speaker 1: logical conclusion, it makes for some pretty interesting hypotheses.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, one out of percent that to me, these
23:51
Speaker 2: competing narratives, it's no surprise that you would have, you know,
23:56
Speaker 2: Satan in his kingdom, the Fallen Kingdom, creating a deceptive
24:01
Speaker 2: narrative as it relates to you know, UFOs, the whole
24:04
Speaker 2: UFO phenomenon, going back again in our in our modern age,
24:08
Speaker 2: you talk in the book and maybe share with us again,
24:12
Speaker 2: you bring up evidence of various kinds. The talk about
24:15
Speaker 2: maybe the similarities because in our modern you mentioned science fiction,
24:21
Speaker 2: star trek and other things. But yet this idea of
24:25
Speaker 2: visibly seeing other things that are unexplainable.
24:29
Speaker 3: Talk about that that is that that exists prior.
24:33
Speaker 2: To the twentieth century, that this is something that historically
24:36
Speaker 2: you have evidence of, and you provide for it maybe
24:39
Speaker 2: for the audience.
24:40
Speaker 3: Bring that connection together.
24:42
Speaker 1: Well when you when you're when you're talking about before
24:47
Speaker 1: the twentieth century, are you talking about like elves and
24:53
Speaker 1: or are you.
24:53
Speaker 2: Talking like you bring up the Roman historians where they're
24:56
Speaker 2: talking about shields and the sky and other things where
24:59
Speaker 2: there's stuff like that.
25:01
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, so flat out there have been people who
25:06
Speaker 1: have experienced what people today would call UFOs or UAP phenomenon. Right,
25:17
Speaker 1: it's happened. There was tons of things that and actual
25:21
Speaker 1: news reports from the time in Germany where these gigantic
25:27
Speaker 1: airships showed up and had a battle in the skies
25:31
Speaker 1: and several towns saw it happen and all of their
25:35
Speaker 1: media at the time went bonkers over it. I think
25:40
Speaker 1: this was back in the sixteen hundreds. There have been
25:44
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's things in the Hebrew scriptures themselves, like,
25:50
Speaker 1: for example, there's a there's a point where I believe
25:56
Speaker 1: it was Elisha, or like maybe was Elijah. I don't
26:00
Speaker 1: remember which one of the Elijah Elisha's, but his servant
26:05
Speaker 1: comes outside and the prophet prays to have his eyes
26:10
Speaker 1: opened up, and he sees these, you know, hundreds of
26:14
Speaker 1: thousands of angelic warriors in their chariots surrounding them, right.
26:22
Speaker 1: And then when Elijah is taken up in a whirlwind,
26:26
Speaker 1: and this this kind of thing, and then you have
26:31
Speaker 1: Ezekiel's wheel within within the wheels, right. And there's these
26:36
Speaker 1: various descriptions throughout history from far back thousands and thousands
26:42
Speaker 1: of years ago all the way up to the twentieth
26:45
Speaker 1: century when the modern UFO phenomena really exploded. But there's
26:53
Speaker 1: in terms of how do I how should I say it?
26:58
Speaker 1: There is a lot of evidence for beings which are
27:07
Speaker 1: not humans that have interacted with our species throughout human history.
27:15
Speaker 1: And I go through a ton of that in the book.
27:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, that to me, that's the fascinating thing is that
27:23
Speaker 2: this isn't anything new, but yet you have again this
27:27
Speaker 2: this narrative.
27:28
Speaker 3: I'd call it a probably.
27:29
Speaker 2: The consensus narrative of the history channel crowd today for sure.
27:35
Speaker 2: And and the goal for you, which again is we
27:39
Speaker 2: we that's why we appreciate it, is Hey, let's let's
27:41
Speaker 2: provide a biblical view of this rather than the vondnik
27:45
Speaker 2: in view or you know.
27:46
Speaker 3: Or sitch An.
27:47
Speaker 2: The other thing that you bring up is is, you know,
27:51
Speaker 2: we've been kind of talking about the past as we
27:54
Speaker 2: look to the future in prophetic development, and certainly as
27:58
Speaker 2: we know we're heading into the end of the age.
28:01
Speaker 3: Using Jesus' words, how do you see.
28:04
Speaker 2: You know, the Nephelene of course in geneshis sixth, the
28:08
Speaker 2: whole phenomenon into the modern idea, and it's very technological. Now,
28:13
Speaker 2: how do you see it playing out in the sense
28:15
Speaker 2: of prophetically?
28:17
Speaker 1: First of all, I think it's very possible that the effort,
28:21
Speaker 1: the strategy, or the tactics of the enemy. I think
28:26
Speaker 1: the tactics have actually changed, but I think the strategy
28:29
Speaker 1: has remained mostly intact. And part of that strategy is
28:35
Speaker 1: to change the human genome from being something that God created,
28:44
Speaker 1: that he approved of, that he put his stamp on
28:48
Speaker 1: as made in the image of God, to change it
28:52
Speaker 1: into something that's something else, right, And I think that
28:57
Speaker 1: was the original strategy of the watchers when they came
29:03
Speaker 1: down and they did what they did in Genesis six
29:06
Speaker 1: by them putting their DNA, mixing their DNA with our DNA,
29:11
Speaker 1: it created a hybrid race that no longer was a
29:17
Speaker 1: son of God. Right, he had the angels who are
29:21
Speaker 1: called sons of God, the bene Elohim, and then you
29:25
Speaker 1: have mankind that was made in the image of God.
29:30
Speaker 1: But just because you have two sons of God and
29:33
Speaker 1: you put them together, it doesn't mean that the offspring
29:36
Speaker 1: of that union is also going to be a son
29:40
Speaker 1: of God, especially when it's clear that God didn't approve,
29:46
Speaker 1: you know, the first time around. But I think that
29:49
Speaker 1: because it says that the nepheline were in the earth
29:53
Speaker 1: in those days, which was before the flood and after,
29:57
Speaker 1: which is obviously after Noah's flood, and then you have
30:02
Speaker 1: vague references within the profits to these kinds of things
30:08
Speaker 1: happening again in the end times. Chuck Missler actually talked
30:12
Speaker 1: about this as well. Then, I think that there is
30:17
Speaker 1: the possibility that in some way the the enemy is
30:26
Speaker 1: going to try to do something similar again in the
30:30
Speaker 1: last days do I know what that specific you know
30:34
Speaker 1: mechanism is going to be. No, I don't. And you know,
30:37
Speaker 1: I've heard people talk, you know, speculate about whether the
30:41
Speaker 1: Antichrist is going to be a hybrid being. I've heard
30:46
Speaker 1: people speculate about whether the mark of the Beast might
30:50
Speaker 1: be some something that changes us, you know, on a
30:55
Speaker 1: genetic level, on a cellular level. And I do think,
31:00
Speaker 1: especially concerning the Mark of the Beast, I actually do
31:02
Speaker 1: think that there is a real possibility of that. I
31:05
Speaker 1: think it's gigantic speculation regarding the Antichrist, but all of
31:11
Speaker 1: those things actually are possibilities based on what is actually
31:17
Speaker 1: written in scripture. So I think I don't think any
31:22
Speaker 1: of that is something that believers need to be afraid of.
31:28
Speaker 1: It's not something there just to scare everybody. But I
31:30
Speaker 1: do think that it's something to be aware of, and
31:36
Speaker 1: it's it's a good reason to make sure that you
31:40
Speaker 1: are that your personal relationship with Jesus is on track right,
31:46
Speaker 1: and because I think, I this is just my personal opinion,
31:50
Speaker 1: but I don't believe that if you are following the
31:53
Speaker 1: Lord in the way that you should be, I don't
31:57
Speaker 1: think that he's going to allow you to be deceived
32:02
Speaker 1: into doing something that is going to change or revoke
32:08
Speaker 1: your salvation, which you take the mark of the beast.
32:12
Speaker 1: Even if you say Jesus's Lord, well sorry, you just
32:16
Speaker 1: you know, you just cut your own throat, right, in
32:20
Speaker 1: a very real spiritual sense. But it's not and it's
32:23
Speaker 1: not just spiritual. I think that's the thing that a
32:25
Speaker 1: lot of people have perhaps perhaps a misconception about. I
32:31
Speaker 1: do think that it's a physical act that changes at
32:36
Speaker 1: what we are. And so yeah, I don't know if
32:41
Speaker 1: I answered your.
32:42
Speaker 3: No, no, that that's that's very good.
32:44
Speaker 2: I mean, we see, we see this trajectory that again
32:49
Speaker 2: at the end of the age, and we're watching it unfold,
32:51
Speaker 2: and so it's it's not surprising that we would watch
32:54
Speaker 2: transhumanism increase and we see these different mechanisms in order
32:59
Speaker 2: to confront humanity what it means to be human physically
33:04
Speaker 2: and genetically and everything else.
33:06
Speaker 3: And so to me, it's a fascinating to watch.
33:09
Speaker 2: I do a one hundred percent agree that if you're
33:11
Speaker 2: a follower of Jesus, and I mean, either Jesus protects
33:15
Speaker 2: us or he doesn't, and we know that he does.
33:16
Speaker 2: In John ten he's a good shepherd. So you know,
33:19
Speaker 2: we're in his hands. We're in the Father's hands, and
33:21
Speaker 2: so we have complete comfort to know that no one
33:23
Speaker 2: can pluck us out of his hands, and he's not
33:25
Speaker 2: going to allow us again to be deceived to such
33:27
Speaker 2: a degree that would revoke our salvation.
33:30
Speaker 3: I mean he cares about us.
33:31
Speaker 2: He in fact, in John six he says to all
33:33
Speaker 2: that the Father has given me, I've lost none.
33:35
Speaker 3: So to me, that's extremely comforting to know that.
33:38
Speaker 1: Ye.
33:38
Speaker 2: Absolutely, one of the things that I love will is archaeology.
33:42
Speaker 2: And you bring up some archaeology in the book too,
33:45
Speaker 2: talking about basically how archaeology has shown again historical reference
33:52
Speaker 2: and how it fits together. Do you mind talking about that.
33:55
Speaker 1: Well, And is there a particular place in the book
33:59
Speaker 1: that you're thinking of concerning.
34:02
Speaker 2: Just in general that the idea of of archaeology, you know,
34:06
Speaker 2: kind of providing evidence.
34:07
Speaker 1: Sure, so there is a ton of archaeological stuff, particularly
34:13
Speaker 1: here in Israel, but also all around the world. There
34:16
Speaker 1: is evidence of giants in my opinion. You know, there's
34:22
Speaker 1: a ton of megalithic structures that in my view are
34:30
Speaker 1: potentially either nepheline architecture. La Marzouli talks about that quite
34:39
Speaker 1: a lot, and there is you know, and that kind
34:43
Speaker 1: of stuff is found all over the world. But the archaeology,
34:49
Speaker 1: it shows in the art, you know, the History Channel
34:55
Speaker 1: is not wrong when they go and they show that.
34:58
Speaker 1: I think their interpretations are wrong, but they're not wrong
35:01
Speaker 1: in that these ancient cultures documented what they saw, they
35:07
Speaker 1: wrote about what they saw and whether those people were
35:12
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, when they're many times they're talking
35:16
Speaker 1: about their gods, but a lot of time or their
35:20
Speaker 1: spirits or whatever, right, but they wrote it down, they
35:24
Speaker 1: documented it, and a lot of those things are also
35:30
Speaker 1: talked about in Hebrew literature. The paradigm is shifted and
35:36
Speaker 1: it's explained in terms of like you know, the Heavenly
35:41
Speaker 1: Council and this kind of thing which doctor Michael Heizer
35:46
Speaker 1: expounds upon in his Unseen Realm quite thoroughly. So the
35:52
Speaker 1: archaeology backs up the narrative that we have been visited
35:58
Speaker 1: by non human intelligence is and they're most likely interdimensional
36:04
Speaker 1: in nature, and the Bible says flat out what they are,
36:07
Speaker 1: you know, So I think it it archaeology really does
36:13
Speaker 1: back up what the Bible has to say.
36:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's to me, it's fascinating to go around
36:19
Speaker 2: and to look at all across the world, different cultures Peru,
36:24
Speaker 2: you know, Sardinia, I mean, Malta, you have again you
36:27
Speaker 2: name a ballback Lebanon. I mean, it's truly phenomenal that
36:30
Speaker 2: these there's a history there that is relatively again obscure
36:36
Speaker 2: to the modern mind.
36:36
Speaker 3: But yet the archaeology is the same.
36:38
Speaker 2: Everybody looks at the same data, but as you said,
36:41
Speaker 2: the interpretations are different.
36:42
Speaker 3: The one of the phraseologies.
36:45
Speaker 2: Used is you know that that the book here is
36:49
Speaker 2: a sledgehammer to dogma and some of the things. And
36:53
Speaker 2: maybe expand on that a little bit, because what I
36:55
Speaker 2: appreciate is you're what you shared earlier is your story
37:00
Speaker 2: of pursuing literature, not before you know, necessarily getting into
37:06
Speaker 2: the New Testament. So you absorbed all this information and
37:09
Speaker 2: then you get confronted with, you know, that whole tradition,
37:14
Speaker 2: and then you get confronted with the full biblical narrative,
37:18
Speaker 2: and maybe talk about how that basically modified things and
37:23
Speaker 2: established and kind of breaks sledgehammers the tradition and dogma.
37:28
Speaker 1: Well, when it comes to the tradition and dogma, there
37:31
Speaker 1: there are I basically there are walls Okay, institutional walls
37:38
Speaker 1: that are built within academia and also within the church
37:48
Speaker 1: and within the synagogue. Right, there are things that are
37:52
Speaker 1: that are built up as tradition that don't match what's
37:59
Speaker 1: written within scripture, and a lot of how like basically
38:08
Speaker 1: there are there was a time when there was a
38:10
Speaker 1: particular view of scripture that that's considered traditional, like a
38:18
Speaker 1: traditional interpretation which is much more literal in its reading
38:23
Speaker 1: of the scripture of like what it says in black
38:26
Speaker 1: and white that they actually meant that, right, But over
38:30
Speaker 1: time there were particular theologians who began to get really
38:36
Speaker 1: steeped in Greek rationalism, and they kind of followed the
38:40
Speaker 1: zeitgeist of the time over the Enlightenment, people like Moses
38:45
Speaker 1: Miamonides or Rambam, who is a you know, towering figure
38:49
Speaker 1: in Orthodox Judaism today, also the Vilnago own likewise. And
38:57
Speaker 1: then on the church side, you had or you know,
39:01
Speaker 1: in Christianity, you had church fathers like Thomas Aquinas who
39:05
Speaker 1: pretty much agreed with Rambam, you know completely, and whenever
39:13
Speaker 1: they talked about spiritual beings, angelic beings, and a lot
39:20
Speaker 1: of times even God, they would take what's in black
39:27
Speaker 1: and white, and they would reinterpret it in the light
39:31
Speaker 1: of oh, wait a minute, does this make rational sense? Hmm,
39:37
Speaker 1: not really, because you know, we've never seen an angel
39:40
Speaker 1: and we've never seen God, so it's symbolic or it's metaphorical,
39:46
Speaker 1: or it's you know, you talk. A great example is
39:50
Speaker 1: when the two angels and the Lord come and visit
39:54
Speaker 1: Abraham at the Oak of Memory. Abraham knows that these
39:58
Speaker 1: guys are angels, he knows that one of them is
40:01
Speaker 1: the Lord, and he invites them to come and eat
40:05
Speaker 1: with them, and he has Sarah make them this big
40:07
Speaker 1: meal and they all sit down and they eat together. Well,
40:10
Speaker 1: that's a pretty physical act. And the reinterpretation of that
40:17
Speaker 1: during the you know, the rational period was that it
40:21
Speaker 1: only appeared that they ate something. They didn't really do it.
40:26
Speaker 1: They just appeared to do it. They made Abraham think
40:29
Speaker 1: that that's what they were doing. And so you get
40:32
Speaker 1: this idea which has become church doctrine and also synagogue
40:38
Speaker 1: doctrine just about across every Christian denomination and Jewish denomination,
40:47
Speaker 1: that angels are purely spiritual, incorporeal beings with no free will.
40:56
Speaker 1: And the purely spiritual, incorporeal thing is pretty much in
41:02
Speaker 1: every church doctrine, and the no free will thing, that's
41:07
Speaker 1: not everywhere, but it is in many, many places. But
41:11
Speaker 1: that is just it's it's not born out in the
41:15
Speaker 1: Hebrew scriptures if you read it with a literal mindset.
41:21
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking hyperliteralism here, I'm just talking about this,
41:24
Speaker 1: does the scripture mean what it says? Right? But it's
41:27
Speaker 1: also within the New Testament. You find it when the
41:32
Speaker 1: angel goes and breaks Peter out of jail. He smacks
41:35
Speaker 1: Peter on the side, you know, he's like, hey, get up. Yeah,
41:40
Speaker 1: Like if you get smacked by an angel, and this
41:44
Speaker 1: is the New Testament talking, you know, that's a pretty
41:48
Speaker 1: physical thing, you know, And and these things get reinterpreted
41:54
Speaker 1: as an angel. May okay, maybe yeah that's kind of physical.
42:01
Speaker 1: So maybe the angel can shape shift and somehow they
42:04
Speaker 1: become physical when they get into our space. And but
42:08
Speaker 1: that's just kind of like explaining away what the text says, right,
42:13
Speaker 1: because you can't because some of these theologians couldn't wrap
42:16
Speaker 1: their heads around the idea that the scripture was meant
42:20
Speaker 1: what it said, right. I know, I keep like harping
42:24
Speaker 1: on that it means what it says there there is. Yeah,
42:32
Speaker 1: I think I kind of lost the plot there. I
42:34
Speaker 1: went off track. So I don't remember what the actual
42:37
Speaker 1: question was that you asked.
42:39
Speaker 2: Well, no, I think I think you answered it that
42:41
Speaker 2: what what you've done here is that there's tradition and dogma,
42:45
Speaker 2: but yet what you've done in the book is the sledgehammer.
42:47
Speaker 3: Yeah.
42:48
Speaker 1: So that that's one of the things on the on
42:52
Speaker 1: the uh, you know, church side of things, on the
42:54
Speaker 1: spiritual side of things, which I document pretty heavily, and
42:58
Speaker 1: I go through and I'm I I point out case
43:01
Speaker 1: after case after case after case within canon scripture, right.
43:07
Speaker 1: But then I do the same thing on the academic
43:11
Speaker 1: side of things, for example, when it comes to the
43:14
Speaker 1: theory of evolution and when it's and I don't go
43:19
Speaker 1: really really deep into this, but I do bring in
43:21
Speaker 1: peer reviewed literature when it comes to certain hominids, and
43:26
Speaker 1: there is this idea and specifically I talk about the
43:31
Speaker 1: the Neanderthals and the Denisovians, and you know, churches don't
43:36
Speaker 1: have a great explanation for who these beings were. There's
43:42
Speaker 1: certain you know, preodomic race theories, one of which is
43:46
Speaker 1: super racist, which came out of the eighteen hundreds. And
43:49
Speaker 1: then there's another one which is not quite as bad,
43:53
Speaker 1: but that I don't think you know, holds up, But
43:58
Speaker 1: there is a Hebrew explanation for it, and that's the nepheline.
44:03
Speaker 1: We know for a fact that both Neanderthals and Denisovians
44:08
Speaker 1: lived for a significant amount of time. Even you know,
44:11
Speaker 1: regular evolutionary theorist guys will tell you that, yes, these
44:16
Speaker 1: two hominids lived for a significant period of time alongside
44:22
Speaker 1: Homo sapiens sapiens. And they didn't just live alongside them.
44:26
Speaker 1: They often made war with them. And they didn't just
44:28
Speaker 1: make war with them, sometimes they interbred with them. And
44:32
Speaker 1: now Northern European populations still carry two percent of Neanderthal
44:40
Speaker 1: mitochondrial DNA, which only comes from the mother. Then in
44:45
Speaker 1: when it comes to the Denisovians, certain Asian populations have
44:49
Speaker 1: up to four percent of their DNA still within the
44:52
Speaker 1: population and according to the peer reviewed literature both populations.
44:59
Speaker 1: One of the the theories is that they died out.
45:01
Speaker 1: Why did they go extinct, Well, because they had a
45:05
Speaker 1: dwindling genetic gene pool. They had their like, their genetic
45:11
Speaker 1: diversity was extremely low, and so they began to go
45:15
Speaker 1: extinct because of that. But there's another explanation, and that
45:20
Speaker 1: is that hybrid populations begin with extremely low genetic diversity,
45:27
Speaker 1: and nobody talks about that, and so that's something else
45:31
Speaker 1: that I explore in the book. So it's not a oh,
45:35
Speaker 1: you know, these were part of the human family tree,
45:40
Speaker 1: because they even the evolutionary guys no longer say that,
45:44
Speaker 1: you know, Neanderthals were a precursor to modern humans. Now,
45:50
Speaker 1: they were just somehow they split off from our line.
45:54
Speaker 1: At one point we had a common ancestor and this
45:57
Speaker 1: particular line went extinct. Same thing with the the Sovians, right,
46:02
Speaker 1: But there is another explanation, and it's interesting. One of
46:06
Speaker 1: the things I found while I was doing this research
46:09
Speaker 1: is that there are certain Christian organizations which talk about
46:15
Speaker 1: these things. One of them, and I'm not going to
46:19
Speaker 1: go into to names so that I because I'm not
46:20
Speaker 1: trying to like really dog anybody here, but I do
46:26
Speaker 1: disagree with them. And because one of those explanations is
46:31
Speaker 1: that the Neanderthals were human looking beings. There were basically human,
46:37
Speaker 1: very intelligent, human like animals. And one of the things
46:43
Speaker 1: that immediately popped into my mind is if we have
46:46
Speaker 1: genetic proof that they interbred with the human species. Not
46:51
Speaker 1: to be crude, but there have been cases where humans
46:56
Speaker 1: had sexual relations with animals throughout human history, but at
47:00
Speaker 1: no time were there ever viable offspring from those unions.
47:07
Speaker 1: The only way to have viable offspring is if there
47:11
Speaker 1: is a genetic match. And so how did a potentially
47:19
Speaker 1: hybrid being and humans have enough genetic similarity to have kids? Well,
47:28
Speaker 1: that's something else that I explore in the book, but
47:30
Speaker 1: it's it is, it's there has to be some kind
47:33
Speaker 1: of genetic link, right, and you would have that even
47:39
Speaker 1: if you had this being with an angelic paternal source
47:47
Speaker 1: and a human mother, their kids could theoretically have kids
47:54
Speaker 1: with pure blooded humans.
47:56
Speaker 3: You know.
47:57
Speaker 1: So there, I think that there is a much but
48:00
Speaker 1: it fits. These hominids fit a Hebraic framework much better
48:08
Speaker 1: than they do an evolutionary one, and much better than
48:11
Speaker 1: they do some of the other theories I think that
48:13
Speaker 1: have been that have been put forth by certain Christian organizations.
48:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent agreed on that.
48:20
Speaker 2: And you know, as we as we close here, what
48:25
Speaker 2: advice you know would you give to the listener who
48:28
Speaker 2: is watching the end of the age unfold? There's a
48:32
Speaker 2: lot of interesting things. You know again, we're there's a
48:35
Speaker 2: new film, Spielberg film coming out in June, you know,
48:38
Speaker 2: about bringing up the age of disclosure. There's another film
48:41
Speaker 2: you know on disclosure recently. You know what, what what
48:47
Speaker 2: council would you give the Christian as it relates to
48:50
Speaker 2: discernment as we continue to approach ever more speedily the
48:55
Speaker 2: end of the age?
48:57
Speaker 1: I think I think I've already said it is just
48:59
Speaker 1: you you have to like make sure that your relationship
49:03
Speaker 1: with the King of kings is where it should be.
49:07
Speaker 1: If you're not following him and he's not the lord
49:11
Speaker 1: of your life, make him the lord of your life.
49:14
Speaker 1: That's that's the bottom line. And it's so But it's
49:19
Speaker 1: so you know, that is something that's so easy to
49:21
Speaker 1: say it because every single one of us messes up,
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Speaker 1: probably day in and day out. And the good the
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Speaker 1: good part about that is that our salvation isn't based
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Speaker 1: on how great we are, is because of how great
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Speaker 1: He is. And whenever you are, I don't think that
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Speaker 1: gives you license to sin, right, But what I'm what
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is that it's so easy to say,
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Speaker 1: make sure your life is right, but the way to
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Speaker 1: do that is to meditate on his word day and night.
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Speaker 1: Like the Psalmist says, it's to make sure that your
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Speaker 1: your prayer life, that you actually you know, I was
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Speaker 1: thinking about this for myself. There are days and days
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Speaker 1: sometimes where I go and I haven't like actually even prayed.
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Speaker 1: I might might be praying in my thoughts or something right,
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Speaker 1: or I might think about something that God said or did,
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Speaker 1: or I've read the Word for that day or whatever,
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Speaker 1: but I haven't actually taken the time to go and
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Speaker 1: talk to Him. And I think a lot of that
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Speaker 1: those kinds of things just work. Is somebody your friend,
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Speaker 1: you call them. You know, your mom, you call your mom.
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Speaker 1: Why don't you do that with the Lord? That is
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Speaker 1: something that I think if you love him, you will do.
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Speaker 1: And the more you love him, the more you want
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Speaker 1: to get closer to him and to learn the things
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Speaker 1: of him and to become who he wants you to
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Speaker 1: be instead of the person that you are, which is
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Speaker 1: a sinner in need of self, you know. So that
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Speaker 1: that would be my flat out that's the bottom line
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Speaker 1: kind of thing. The other thing would be just, you know,
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Speaker 1: be aware of what's going on in the world. There's
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Speaker 1: all kinds of things that are happening all over the place,
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Speaker 1: and they're happening super fast. And I think wherever you
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Speaker 1: are when the Lord comes back, it's you know, whether
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Speaker 1: you know what's happening in Russia or you know what's
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Speaker 1: happening in Israel. You know that's not going to matter
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Speaker 1: because you know the Lord's going to come back and
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Speaker 1: you're going to be with him, right, But it does
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Speaker 1: matter for as long as we're here and how you
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Speaker 1: behave to the people around you and how you you know,
51:49
Speaker 1: if you're a political person, it matters if you are
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Speaker 1: somebody who I don't know. I'm kind of kind of
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Speaker 1: going off on the rails again there, but that's that's
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Speaker 1: basically what it is. You know, you pay attention so
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Speaker 1: that you won't be deceived. There's a lot of narratives
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Speaker 1: the whole like you're talking about with the disclosure thing,
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Speaker 1: it is possible that at some point they're going to
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Speaker 1: say that, you know, there's a starship. You know, there
52:18
Speaker 1: was like this whole thing recently with Avi Leeb from
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Speaker 1: who's a Harvard physicist I believe, and he's been you know,
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Speaker 1: journaling in on medium dot com talking about this thing
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Speaker 1: that came into our solar system and how it very
52:36
Speaker 1: well could be you know, powered by some artificial source,
52:42
Speaker 1: and what does that imply? And there's all so there's
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Speaker 1: all these things where hey, you know, some intergalactic star
52:51
Speaker 1: people might show up one day, and if they do,
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Speaker 1: what do we do as believers? Right? Are they who
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Speaker 1: they say they are? Or are I don't know if
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Speaker 1: you guys have ever watched v from the nineteen eighties,
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Speaker 1: but you know they show up as saviors and they're
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Speaker 1: not the same. And I think that the very same
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Speaker 1: thing would be the case if that ever actually really
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Speaker 1: happened in our coming future.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean here we are the two things. Everybody
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Speaker 2: stay close to Jesus and keep the scripture right in
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Speaker 2: front of you as we approach things, and we watch
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Speaker 2: and we run everything through the lens of God's word
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Speaker 2: to us, and so will.
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Speaker 3: It's been great talking to you. Thank you everybody else.
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Speaker 2: As always, we just want to say thank you for
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Speaker 2: your prayers and support that helps us continue to get
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Speaker 2: the word out. As we know, the end of the
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Speaker 2: age is coming very fast and we want to be
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Speaker 2: ready for the Lord's return.
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Speaker 3: So thanks for watching today and we will catch you
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Speaker 3: next time,