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Liberty and Finance's Dunagun Kaiser Speaks #5869 · Financial Survival Network

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  What have you learned in the past ten twelve years from doing your show.
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  One of the things that surprised me, I just thought of this when you
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  asked the question that I was completely mistaken about YouTube. I thought I was
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  going to be building a basically a reference library, so that each video I
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  put out there would eventually get more and more and more views over time because
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  people would be coming back to a reference. But I found I found it.
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  There's about a three day window you have to get people's attention because they're
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  onto the next thing, the next thing. Yeah, recency is absolutely that
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  Survival Network now more than ever, and welcome you are watching the Financial Survival
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  Network. I am here at Rick Rule's symposium in Beautiful booka raton Florida.
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  I'm sitting next to my good friend Dunnigan Kaiser. We go way back in
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  this journey we've kind of had parallel journeys but going along the same path.
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  And here we are. We're hanging out observing what's going on here. Your
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  YouTube channel, tell us your YouTube channel. Oh, Liberty and Finance,
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  Liberty and Finance must watch and hey, Donnigo, we kind of like I
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  started out in this twelve years ago now and you started out shortly thereafter.
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  You know what, what have you learned in the past ten twelve years from
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  doing your show. One of the things that surprised me, I just thought
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  of this when you asked the question that I was completely mistaken about you too.
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  I thought I was going to be building a basically a reference library,
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  so that each video I put out there would eventually get more and more and
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  more views over time because people would be coming back to it reference per I
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  found. But I found it there's about a three day window you have to
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  get people's attention because they're onto the next thing and the next thing. Yeah,
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  recency is absolutely that was a big surprise. One thing that I learned
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  what pushed us to go instead of from one to two to three interviews per
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  week to now typically six and now with the conference, shoot, we're doing
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  multiple per day as well, or when things kind of break open in the
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  in the geopolitical sphere or whatever, when we always have to do more multiple
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  per day. And moving forward. We started out audio only, I think
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  you were starting out that way as well. Then we went to video.
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  Now we're doing live stream, so those are changes that have come along the
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  way as well. I guess another thing that makes me think about is I
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  always knew, but I think I finally convinced my audience that I'm what I'm
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  bringing to this is I'm being there representative here. I'm asking the questions of
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  the guests because I'm frankly quite curious at what the guests has to say.
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  I want to pick the guest's brain on behalf of all of my viewers and
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  myself. So I'm learning as much, I promise you, I'm learning as
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  much as anyone from the guests we have on. So rather than being like
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  the source of information, that's where I was really had that wrong in my
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  head. The Originally I was thinking I would make a list of Okay,
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  well I know this, and I know that I know about engineering, and
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  I know about some things, but I didn't have to be That was one
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  of the things that came to me is I don't have to be the expert
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  about these things. I just have to be able to ask coherent questions that
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  a reasonable person might wonder. And then that's another thing that came out along
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  the way is it's been very frustrating and bewildering and angering over the last three
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  years that we're not being permitted to ask some very reasonable questions that the ordinary
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  person should want to know, does want to know, needs to know,
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  and we're being told, you know, thou shalt not ask that you know,
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  these are the names that may not be named. These are the questions
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  that may not be asked. Or else community strikes or deep platforming or whatever
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  you're going to get going to get canceled. That has been a I didn't
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  see that one coming at all. It's been been a big, big thorn,
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  and we're trying to find ways around it. I have some guests that
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  are amazingly adept at using metaphors or different words or hand gestures to a global
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  health issue. Yeah so or things like that, yes, things like that,
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  And so it helps to have a broader vocabulary. You can expand your
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  vocabulary the way you can escape the sensors filters, But that was something I
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  didn't see coming. Just think of it as like when you wanted to when
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  your kids were young and you want it understand something. My grandparents would speak
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  Yiddish, Yes, so unfortunately Yiddish is a dead language now but bees pig
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  Latin instead, so the algorithm can't pick it up well. And that becomes
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  one of the things that then you really start processing what that means. And
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  one of the things that that really is upsetting right down to the core of
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  my heart is wait a minute. The purpose of our channel is about awareness
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  and preparedness for the good of individual family, so they can take care of
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  their family and they can take care of their neighbors. And it's like,
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  that is a good thing. So why are we being treated In other words,
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  why is there a power structure that's set up to make sure that we
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  don't do that? And it's like, what does that tell you about the
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  power structure if it's against the better interests of the people. So that's where
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  some surprises that came along the way. Yeah, it was a shocker to
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  me too. You know, with a legal background, believing in the First
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  Amendment, I just assumed the two hundred and twenty five years. It was
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  universally accepted, adhered to, and defended. And what a shocker. It's
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  none of those things. In fact, it's under attack, and I don't
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  know what can really stop it. We had a lawsuit. I don't know
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  if you caught that lawsuit by Judge Dowdy where he barred government agencies other than
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  for intelligence purposes and criminal purposes from censoring talking to the social media platform.
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  I think I think we had you on shortly after that came out because you
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  said, and then they were trying to apply it to school board meetings and
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  that sort of thing. It was just crazy, the misapplication right away.
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  Yeah, so well this law, this judge threatened to roll it all back
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  right now. His decisions stayed by the Fifth Circuit, but it's going to
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  go to the Supreme Court. The one thing I don't know about you that
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  I found disappointing with all the turmoil we've had over the past several years,
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  is the inability or the lack of desire of the courts no to do anything.
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  Yeah, we've had a constitutional attorney, doctor Edmund Vera on and he
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  goes through he goes through branch by branch or the government, showing how there's
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  been absolute dereliction of duty, not just by the executive branch to not enforce
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  the law of the land, which is the First Amendment, Second Amendment,
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  et cetera, et cetera, but also the court's just chicking the ball,
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  just punt, just past, just hot potato. And he says, in
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  his viewpoint, after he's studied these cases that they've rejected, said we're not
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  even gonna examine the evidence. We're not even gonna look at them. Is
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  anything that's too impactful, anything that's too hot of a potato, Oh well,
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  if the president really isn't the president because he wasn't eligible, or oh
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  well, if if these appointees never could have gotten or if that election had
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  Oh boy, how would we unwind that? Well, that's too big of
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  a mess. We're not gonna open that cannonbem. So the criteria appears to
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  be that which would cause too much turmoil is too hot to touch. And
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  he says that's a that has no basis in lots to say that. That's
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  that you can't examine things that may be true. In fact, you don't
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  even look at the evidence which you're required to look at if they were true
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  then and it would be impactful, then it would be within your scope.
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  So that the Supreme Court in particular has has punted on numerous things that they
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  should have at least examined the evidence. Yeah, and they come up with
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  grounds not to do it. The only constitutional right that they've advanced over the
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  past ten twenty years is the Second Amendment. All the other amendments seemed to
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  be on the back shelf. Well, it's kind of interesting how people.
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  This is interesting because when we had the Obama presidency, people were all buying
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  weapons, thinking that they're going to need to protect themselves against a government overreach,
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  that sort of thing. And then when Trump came in, they called
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  it the Trump slump in the firearms industry because AMMA became readily available. Weapons
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  makers went out of business. Yeah, it went bankrupt, long standing ones,
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  right, and then and then now again we're back back off to the
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  races again and people feeling, oh, yikes, I better, I better
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  be able to protect my hearth at home, and the right people, we
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  should be able to protect our hearth at home. Frankly, that's it gets
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  back to. And we've had again doctor Vera is also an expert on the
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  Second Amendment, and we've had him on talking about people completely misunderstand and it's
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  a shame that it's not just about hunting rights, and it's not just about
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  self defense. It's about being able to stand up to tyranny. And so
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  therefore anyone says, oh, well, you we shouldn't have anyone having military
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  style weapons, he said, that's exactly the style of weapon you were required
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  to have in all of the state's constitutions at the time. The Secondment was
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  written so that you could repel threats for an in domestic All right, well,
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  I'm going to go out and buy a rocket, rocket propelled grenade launch
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  and the tank while you're editing. Yeah, in the armored personnel carrier or
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  all. Just get the new Tesla cyber truck that should cover all the bases.
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  But so freedom's under it salt and so effectively they said, you know,
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  when it gets bad enough, you still got your Second Amendment rights,
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  go use them. They've just punted on everything. You ever lose hope for
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  the future. I mean, you've got a lot of kids, grandchildren,
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  we do, and I wouldn't say completely loose hope no, I would say,
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  I confess that I am guilty of what I think a lot of us
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  are, and that is just trying not to dwell too much on the gravity
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  of the situation we face, because it can be overwhelming and when you if
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  you do get overwhelmed, then you become kind of paralyzed and it's not helpful.
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  So there's a couple ways around that. One is to believe that this
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  is not the end of the story. There's a bigger picture, and frankly,
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  there's a bigger authority here than these these earthly princes that like to push
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  people around. They are not the ultimate authority. And so having faith in
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  a higher authority and believing that this is not the end of the story.
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  There will be there will be justice, it will come is one thing.
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  But the other thing is just taking small practical steps. I remember when we
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  had three children under three at one point, and my whole world of trying
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  to be mister Joe professional in my trench coat and briefcase going off to the
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  office. I was completely stressed out until I kind of turned my life around
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  and realize I'm going to make building our home and our family my number one
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  focus. In other words bloom, where your plan to do what you can
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  do in a local thing. That's why you know, we're given the opportunity
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  where we are in time and in space and with the resources and the and
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  the innatabilities and the friends and the connections. And I was just talking to
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  you before the before we get started about how your influence affected a trajectory of
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  my son's ability to get into podcasting, and that got me into it and
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  so on. That's opened up other doors for our family. So you never
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  you never know what opportunities, what possibilities lie just beyond that next starting that
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  next new thing, or trying that trying and branching out in a new way,
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  reaching out to a new person. So I'm a firm believer that it's
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  not hopeless. And frankly, I have a favorite saint of mine, Saint
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  Padre Pio, and one of his favorite sayings famous sayings is pray, hope,
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  and don't worry, because when we fail followed the pit of worry,
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  it's it's very nonproductive. It disables our abilities. We've had Navy seals on
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  our show talking about when you're in an attack situation, defending hearth and home
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  or whatever, your adrenaline goes up, so how you cannot think clearly.
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  You can't, you can't, your memory shuts down. All these things happen
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  because your body and your mind is totally just focused on the threat at hand.
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  And in some ways, if you assume that your your preparedness is dependent
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  on all these plans you had kind of thought you had made, or tools
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  you have to get at or unlock or whatever to be able to repel this
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  threat, that's not going to be. Therefore, you can't count on thinking
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  well at a time of great stress. So you can either train under stress
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  situations until you get to where you can still function in that situation, which
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  is one option. That's what that's what the Navy Seals do. Or you
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  could, as an alternative to that, make things so simple and get them
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  so close so they're not undoable for you, even though you these things seem
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  too big, too big for us to affect. And I also trust in
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  getting the word out. We were talking about freedom of speech just a moment
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  ago. By by getting the word out, so I have one voice.
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  But when we have ninety thousand subscribers on YouTube and then people retweet and repost
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  our stuff, you're reaching untold numbers of people in igniting sparks in their mind.
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  And that's how that's how humans have always shared ideas, and an idea
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  is a very powerful thing, very true. Yeah, that's why they're trying
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  to get us. Do not to say these things. Well, so like
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  when you're talking about you know, Navy seals, airline pilot, they don't
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  practice flying at cruising altitude and everything is perfect. What happens when you lose
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  an engine? What happens when you lose both? What if something goes wrong?
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  What if we lose electric by train? Emergency situations? And when you
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  listen to the FAA black box, the recording of the pilot communicating with the
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  tower, they're never panicking. They're always seemingly in control, trying to solve
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  the problem at hand. You know, may may not work out, but
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  that's exactly it. And the thing is so manipulation and media. They're always
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  trying to knock you out of your rational state into your irrational emotional state of
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  fear and worry and doubt and all of that. So you know, when
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  the pandemic hit, I just said, you know, I'm gonna do what
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  I'm going to do. I'm going to live my best life and I'm not
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  gonna I'm just not gonna pay any attention to them. And I'll tell you
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  I had the best year that all of best years I ever had. I
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  happen to get COVID. I was in the hospital. It was bad for
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  a couple of days, six days in the hospital, but with the exception
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  of that three week illness, and then after COVID, I lost all this
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  weight, in better shape than I ever was before for the past thirty years.
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  So you know, it's hard though to filter it out though, isn't
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  it? Well? It is. It depends, and my wife reminds me
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  of that because given the preparedness focus of our channel, I tend to be
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  exposed to and seeking out feeds of information to tell me where there's a problem
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  so that we can talk about it, because it may be something people need
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  to be aware of so they can be prepared. That habit of seeking out
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  information about where there needs to be a problem can be a pit because if
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  you stay in that mindset all the time, you're not appreciating. You're not
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  smelling the roses, you're not appreciating the sunsets, and that sort of thing.
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  So we're challenging each other. It's our new thing, and we're doing
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  pretty well at it. I think of really stopping and watching the rainbows and
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  noticing when the osprey is going on it to go catch that fish out of
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  them out of the pond, and things like that. Just the wonders of
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  our grandkids and the treasure of a family on a marriage and that sort of
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  thing is something that we're trying to take the time to stop and appreciate,
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  and it really makes it If an exercise being active, yeah, you can
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  say, oh, there's no purpose, it's not productive. It's like you
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  swat a ball around the rack of the pick a ball court for well,
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  I don't know. We feel a lot better after we do that. So
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  one thing, you know, scientists have a lot of the wrong stuff,
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  a lot of stuff with food nutrition. But the one thing that every doctor
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  and every scientist out there agrees on is you should be exercising and doing whatever
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  you are physically able to do on a regular basis, because not only will
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  you be healthier at the present, but when you get to my advanced stage,
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  you'll be healthier then as well. Right, and keeping your blown mass
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  up and keep your muscle mass up and stuff like that so important. Yeah.
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  Yeah, My wife always reminds me when we have the opportunity to take
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  the elevator, she says, well, should we take the stairs instead?
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  So she's a really great one about that. Should we walk longer than we
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  did yesterday because we didn't get our walks in yesterday, that kind of thing.
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  So it's a good reminder, accountability partner. That's a key to a
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  successful marriage. So I'm going to ask you something a little off key here,
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  a little oddball. But we've had a lot of talk about UFOs or
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  whatever they call them now AFPs or something like that, and you know,
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  and you wonder, is it a siop? Si up? If you're not
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  aware, is a si up is an operation that is geared to control people
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  psychologically. CIA is a master of it is an extraterrestrial thing, the UFOs.
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  Is this a siop or is it real? Because when you talked about
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  before of being something else above us? Certainly, if you can travel interstellarly
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  between whatever planet they're at, you know, potentially billions of light years away,
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  they can get here instantaneously. They're obviously way way ahead of us.
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  What's your take on this whole discussion. I don't know that I'll be able
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  to speak intelligently to that subject. I would just say that I have a
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  science scientific training background, and that that predisposes me to. I mean,
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  I like what Galileo said. He said the Book of Nature is open to
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  all who would read it, and the language is written in as mathematics.
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  So I studied a lot of math, and I studied a lot of science.
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  And that's why I've been really ticked off the last three years is what's
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  being mislabeled as science. It's really just indoctrination or or you know, just
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  trying to corrupt it, well corruption sure, trying to push a narrative,
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  propaganda, and then just slapping the label science on it, as though that's
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  going to shut down conversation about it as a conversation stopper. So I don't
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  know the answer. When I was speaking of a higher authority, I was
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  being of a higher power being got But that's fine. But so I don't
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  actually know the answer. But I guess any legitimate scientists would say, let's
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  find out what we know and let's be open to that rather than rather than
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  predisposing. You know, I know the answer before I even examine the evidence.
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  So yeah, well it's just interesting because certainly were the world's orson wills
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  that whole radio thing. You know, he said five times that it was
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  fake, but people people were jumping off bridges and yeah, they were like,
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  hey, we're getting invaded by extraterrestrial because they trusted whatever came across the
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  wires. And that's something that's Um. You mentioned how we've been in an
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  dated with fear and worry as a as a means of controlling people did remark
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  in the governments of the world, and the people of the world did an
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  astonishing job of lockstep other than a few oddballs like you that decided to go
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  on with their life, you know, over the past three years. And
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  you've got to ask yourself you have a healthy, as you said, a
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  healthy skepticism, not just towards government, but towards what you hear on the
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  main media as well. Um, so it can be, it can be
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  bewildering as an ordinary person. How are you supposed to separate the lives from
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  the truth and you always do a gut check. You can check from different
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  angles. I would say definitely, don't just take one source as your only
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  source. Try trying to weigh questions like that. Couldn't agree more. I
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  just find the whole thing fascinating. You know, when I was like eleven
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  years old, as in the backyard, and there had been a whole bunch
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  of UFO sightings in the Worth East, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut,
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  And I'm in the backyard and I look up and I see this thing.
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  It's a spherical object, but it looked like it was a rock.
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  But it's got like red lights flashing and blue lights and green lights, and
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  it leaves a trail of steam behind it. I mean, it almost sounded
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  like a hissing sound, and it just went on its path. And the
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  media said that it was a meteor and it crashed. Well, I don't
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  know where that got all those lights from. And I'm not saying it was
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  an ET or a UFO. I'm just saying that their explanation didn't never satisfied.
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  That's not sufficient to what you had observed. Yeah, we had our
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  children observed something that I couldn't explain or understand over when they were when they
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  were young, and all three of them had the same rendition of that not
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  very different from what you described. So yeah, that's it's it's worthy of
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  curiosity, it's worthy of you know, inspection. So I don't have the
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  answer for you. All right, Well, hey, but we're always thinking
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  and open to possibilities. I think maybe that's what we both kind of specialize
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  in. Is like you think you know one thing. How many times do
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  you find out you think you knew something and you were wrong? Well?
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  Yeah, so even in my engineering career, I was I was responsible for
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  like designing and specifying very complex expensive equipment and when it would finally and designing
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  and doing the drawings and sending it off for fabrication. If when it would
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  arrive, rather than just going, oh, look it showed up, I'll
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  check it off on the box, I would crawl all over the equipment,
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  measuring all the dimensions and everything like that. So that old thing about trust
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  and verify it absolutely applies. Yes, it's it's a good idea to look
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  at where are the weaknesses in my plan? Where where haven't I checked?
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  My wife reminds me of this all the time. It's like, well why
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  didn't you check that? It's like, ah, because I get tired of
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  checking everything and you finally get bit at the time, you don't. So
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  anyway, it's a good idea to verify information and from multiple sources. That's
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  another thing that really stinks about the oppressive environment we're finding ourselves in where there's
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  only one acceptable narrative and you can't deviate from it. It's like says,
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  who, I mean that that doesn't make any sense. I mean, that's
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  the that's anti size, that's unscientific, it's anti science. Is you know,
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  challenge science is all about replication, replicating results, and you know,
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  blowing through theories that no longer serve. Right, if you have new new
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  evidence that shows that that wasn't developed there, then you get smarter and you
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  move on. Yeah, but now settled science to be science is anything but
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  settled, right Einstein, there's still saying yeah, he was mostly right,
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  but there's a few areas he wasn't right and they're working on them. So
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