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- 0:07[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome baseball fans to the Central Indian Sports Report for this week's MLB Report with Paul Tippton and Will Rutherford, our first one after the season has begun and so far the season has had like no progress.
- 0:22[SPEAKER_03]: Every team in the league is somewhere between 6 and 10 and 10 and 6 except for the Dodgers who are left and 4 so we might as well just start the whole thing over right.
- 0:32[SPEAKER_00]: If parody is what you're looking for, this is something else.
- 0:36[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and the Astros have lost eight straight games, and are still only three games out of first place.
- 0:42[SPEAKER_00]: So, nope, that's in the American League.
- 0:45[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody's further out than three games.
- 0:49[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, drag, I feel like this is kind of how it normally goes, unless there's a team that's just so atrocious so that they come out and drop their first 10-11 games.
- 1:00[SPEAKER_03]: We usually have to go, it's going to go.
- 1:03[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's going to happen.
- 1:04[SPEAKER_02]: It's, you know, the Rockies are 6 and 10.
- 1:08[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be here at the end of May and they'll have 15 wins, maybe, and that's how we get to that time period.
- 1:15[SPEAKER_02]: The parity, the parity is great in the early going, but let's be honest.
- 1:20[SPEAKER_02]: Not every team is going to magically get to where there are every team to 7 new and 10.
- 1:26[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to have teams that lose 100 games easily.
- 1:29[SPEAKER_03]: No, of course, but it is a sign of some kind of career.
- 1:33[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's great for the league because they can show that the small market teams can compete and then the CBA suddenly doesn't hold as much weight with having a parody driven salary floor slash cap however they want to do it.
- 1:49[SPEAKER_00]: I never thought the Brewers given their start would lose a five straight games all season and then to lose all their games against the Washington Nationals pretty pretty shocking.
- 2:03[SPEAKER_02]: that national is often so they've turned it around big time they they have a lot of pride and what they've been doing offensively they have a young lineup that's filled with some good talent obviously james would had an absolutely humongous week last week CJ Abrams Luis Garcia Jr. like he kind of felt like it was a roster that
- 2:24[SPEAKER_02]: You know, their lineup was probably going to be good enough for them to compete.
- 2:27[SPEAKER_02]: They're pitching staffs just awful and that's why they won't do anything.
- 2:31[SPEAKER_02]: But the brewers have lost five straight.
- 2:34[SPEAKER_02]: They still have a plus 16 run differential.
- 2:37[SPEAKER_02]: So they're losing games by one run and they're beating the hell out of teams when they do it.
- 2:42[SPEAKER_02]: I my guess is that what goes around comes around and they can go in eight straight.
- 2:48[SPEAKER_02]: Really quick and we forgot they lost five in a row.
- 2:55[SPEAKER_03]: and no word on yell at you, not that I have heard of.
- 3:01[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the Brewers are getting a lot of people in the Midwest there in Thoos.
- 3:06[SPEAKER_00]: Cardinal fans don't feel so gloom.
- 3:08[SPEAKER_00]: Look at the reds.
- 3:09[SPEAKER_00]: Only a half a game behind the wanted Pittsburgh pirates now.
- 3:13[SPEAKER_03]: We'll call it.
- 3:15[SPEAKER_02]: I told you that you do not want to play that team.
- 3:17[SPEAKER_02]: But that pitching staff, they are going to be the toughest three game series of a team that will end up with a losing record in the league.
- 3:24[SPEAKER_02]: They are going to be a nightmare.
- 3:27[SPEAKER_02]: If they score more than three runs,
- 3:30[SPEAKER_02]: they score more than three runs.
- 3:32[SPEAKER_02]: That's how good their pitching staff is.
- 3:35[SPEAKER_00]: They even tried to lose a game against the cubs and extra innings by throwing the ball around and they still shut down the cubs.
- 3:45[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure how I feel about the cubs yet.
- 3:47[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like 113 15 games seven a day at they're going to be good.
- 3:53[SPEAKER_02]: I think this division is going to probably be pretty competitive the whole way.
- 3:59[SPEAKER_02]: the brewers probably get to 95 wins and I think you've got a bunch of teams jocky and to get to 87 88 and fight for wildcard spots.
- 4:07[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of what it feels like to me.
- 4:08[SPEAKER_02]: I just think for it.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_02]: Well, see Greg, that's what everybody's been saying for the last, like, I don't know, 10 years old if the reds start hitting my god, what a baseball team.
- 4:22[SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to start hitting because they have too much swing and miss and they're going to live and die by the long ball and they're pitching stuff is going to be good enough to keep him in.
- 4:30[SPEAKER_02]: I still think the reds probably are going to be a wildcard team.
- 4:33[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't see them as a 93 win team.
- 4:37[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're an 88 win team.
- 4:41[SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe we've gone this long into the podcast without will bring up his athletics.
- 4:48[SPEAKER_03]: Just having a time in the apple, huh?
- 4:50[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and the pitching spend much better than everybody expected, too.
- 4:57[SPEAKER_02]: I said they thought they'd finish second division and I still think that.
- 5:00[SPEAKER_02]: I think the Mariners are going to be fine in their eight and nine, like they're
- 5:05[SPEAKER_02]: easily the best roster and that division.
- 5:09[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, A's lineup is just deadly.
- 5:11[SPEAKER_02]: If they can, they're a type of lineup if they can keep a team from not score in five runs, they could win every game.
- 5:18[SPEAKER_02]: I think their lineup's that good.
- 5:19[SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, Soderstrom hasn't really been awesome.
- 5:22[SPEAKER_02]: Yet, nobody's been super hot, Lawrence Butler has gotten off to a slow start, but they've just been able to do enough.
- 5:29[SPEAKER_02]: It's a team I was super high on, I still continue to feel the same way.
- 5:36[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think Seattle, it's probably a good sign that they're eight and nine because they've played so poorly.
- 5:43[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
- 5:45[SPEAKER_02]: They're pitching staff still so good.
- 5:46[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're a lineup that I think that there's some variability.
- 5:52[SPEAKER_02]: Cal Raleigh's just not been very good with shock or your catch switch hitting catchers, not going to hit 60 home runs again.
- 6:01[SPEAKER_02]: Because at the end,
- 6:02[SPEAKER_02]: I still, that will always be a year that I will just look back and say, he can't steal any bags.
- 6:12[SPEAKER_02]: He's really not a good hit or outside of hit and home runs.
- 6:15[SPEAKER_02]: Why throw him?
- 6:17[SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe that happened.
- 6:18[SPEAKER_02]: And this year is just reverting back to the mean.
- 6:21[SPEAKER_02]: This is ill hit 30 home runs and ill bat 220 doing it.
- 6:22[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even sure he's going to hit 30 home runs.
- 6:23[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
- 6:29[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he probably can at 11 run differential.
- 6:36[SPEAKER_03]: He still, he puts a charge in that ball when he hits it, man.
- 6:40[SPEAKER_03]: He looks bad on a lot of pitches, though.
- 6:42[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, he does.
- 6:43[SPEAKER_02]: Here's, I think there's been too much swing and miss in Raleigh's game.
- 6:47[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the entire career, I think that last year there were still a lot of swing and miss.
- 6:52[SPEAKER_02]: It just when he makes contact, it's loud contact, which is great.
- 6:55[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't know, I think that if you expect to attempt to even get close to 60 Helm runs again, you were just full in yourself.
- 7:05[SPEAKER_00]: agreed.
- 7:06[SPEAKER_00]: There was one thing I was pretty confident going into this season, and I know we've only played 15 games, so one tenth of the whole season, but I was sure with this ABS system that batting averages were going to go up because pictures were going to be
- 7:25[SPEAKER_00]: psychologically forced to throw better pitches pitches that weren't so far away.
- 7:33[SPEAKER_00]: But batting average just have actually dropped so far from last year's really low 243 average.
- 7:41[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't explain it.
- 7:45[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know if strikeouts are up, but it sure seems like it.
- 7:55[SPEAKER_02]: more cold strike 3s than I would have expected to I think I know it's sound silly I just I think it's been cold I think when you start the year this early it's not fun to hit 40 degree weather and really a significant portion of the country is experienced this is the first 80 degree day that we've had in Indiana and it's you know April 13th
- 8:18[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of late considering all the variables.
- 8:21[SPEAKER_02]: I just think when the Northeast Boston New York it's been really cold.
- 8:25[SPEAKER_02]: I just, let's get to May.
- 8:28[SPEAKER_02]: I think you'll see that average tick up, but I think part of the problem too with this ABS is, there has to be some variation.
- 8:34[SPEAKER_02]: It cannot be if there is a,
- 8:37[SPEAKER_02]: a hair length of the ball and the strike is on that strike.
- 8:40[SPEAKER_02]: I just I really struggle with that.
- 8:42[SPEAKER_02]: I struggle with you gotta have some percentage of the ball in the zone for me.
- 8:47[SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise, hitters are just getting host, where it's like that's a ball.
- 8:51[SPEAKER_02]: The entire ball is on the strike zone except one seam that popped out of the leather on the way from the mound to the plate.
- 8:58[SPEAKER_02]: I saw that.
- 9:00[SPEAKER_02]: I went to Detroit last Sunday, saw a couple calls that went both ways for the tigers and the cardinals.
- 9:05[SPEAKER_02]: And I just thought, I'm sorry, that's not a strike.
- 9:08[SPEAKER_02]: That's too tedious.
- 9:09[SPEAKER_02]: There's got to be some variation where you give some benefit of the doubt.
- 9:13[SPEAKER_02]: It can't just be, we have a toenail of the ball in the strike zone.
- 9:16[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to roll somebody up on that.
- 9:19[SPEAKER_00]: There should be a slacks zone where the entire has discretion.
- 9:23[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see they're going to change it, though.
- 9:25[SPEAKER_02]: They're not, and I know I'm old man yelling at clouds.
- 9:29[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I think that controls to the average a little bit, because I think that you're getting some of those buffer balls, the dumpiers were letting on a three, two count and catchers are challenging, and you're getting at a centimeter or a millimeter of the ball in the zone and you're ringing them up.
- 9:45[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know, maybe it'll be an adjustment.
- 9:48[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's going to contribute.
- 9:50[SPEAKER_02]: I think this ABS honestly may hurt the hitters more
- 9:55[SPEAKER_00]: That you may actually be right because you take that box and you've actually made it a little bit bigger if any part of that ball, so I guess that'll be a series of adjustments so I guess the good thing is everybody knows now, but I agree as well, they should have had a zone that was a discretion of the empire, a tiny zone that whatever the empire called that's what it was.
- 10:22[SPEAKER_03]: And I agree, that could have cured all this.
- 10:25[SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe how bad the Empire is after putting this box in a few years ago.
- 10:32[SPEAKER_03]: We've learned just how bad homeplayed umpiring's been.
- 10:36[SPEAKER_00]: There are, there are some good, the good one stand out.
- 10:39[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes.
- 10:40[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like baseball.
- 10:41[SPEAKER_00]: There are elite umpires who just are really, really good.
- 10:46[SPEAKER_00]: And then you had that CB Buckner game that the reds played,
- 10:53[SPEAKER_03]: How about this?
- 10:53[SPEAKER_03]: You miss 15 calls and you've just gone.
- 10:57[SPEAKER_03]: We don't need you anymore.
- 10:58[SPEAKER_03]: Low.
- 11:00[SPEAKER_03]: There's no reason to miss calls from behind the plate, especially if like with will, the little slack zone.
- 11:06[SPEAKER_03]: Of course you could miss by an inch, but there's no reason.
- 11:10[SPEAKER_03]: I think we've all three umpired, right?
- 11:13[SPEAKER_03]: You draw a little box in front in your vision in front of you and if the ball goes inside it, it's a strike and if it does it, it's a ball and it's not that hard.
- 11:22[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with that at a certain level, I just think with this level of movement that these pictures have and the velocity at which they're failing, I think it's hard.
- 11:33[SPEAKER_02]: I think, I'm hiring sports of all of the sports professionally, I think I'm hiring is the, it, it, it, homeplayed on pires the most difficult assignment of all major great.
- 11:45[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's so easy anybody can do it and they let these unions get away with keeping these guys in the game who are no good at it I've done it.
- 11:55[SPEAKER_03]: It's done it at a college level where they're throwing 95.
- 11:58[SPEAKER_03]: It's not that hard.
- 12:00[SPEAKER_02]: So what's what's what's harder than being a homeplayed umpire officiated Matt well it's so subjective that that's gonna be all so subjective.
- 12:09[SPEAKER_03]: It's exactly that's why it's way harder
- 12:14[SPEAKER_02]: You can also get away with more.
- 12:16[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have to debate that right now, but...
- 12:19[SPEAKER_01]: I can't help.
- 12:30[SPEAKER_03]: It's not much as clear through a couple of weeks.
- 12:33[SPEAKER_03]: I think one thing is pretty clear is the Dodgers, the best team in the league right now.
- 12:37[SPEAKER_00]: Sadly, it's my opinion.
- 12:39[SPEAKER_00]: I've been hearted by our not talking about them, but I guess that's the open room.
- 12:44[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 12:48[SPEAKER_02]: surprise nobody should be.
- 12:51[SPEAKER_02]: You've got a billion dollar off.
- 12:55[SPEAKER_03]: You should be investing.
- 12:56[SPEAKER_03]: We've got about it.
- 12:57[SPEAKER_03]: Like we said in the preview.
- 12:59[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, your top four guys go down and still get one of the two.
- 13:03[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
- 13:05[SPEAKER_03]: Guess that was in the way the 80s were back in the 60s.
- 13:08[SPEAKER_03]: But it's just not that fun.
- 13:11[SPEAKER_02]: Nope.
- 13:12[SPEAKER_02]: It's good for the league.
- 13:15[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, but you've got to set the stage.
- 13:19[SPEAKER_02]: You can't just you've got to set the stage where this team wins 120 games and it's David versus Goliath and the NLCS.
- 13:28[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have your climax of the play right at the beginning.
- 13:31[SPEAKER_02]: You got to have a, you know, an hour or 20 of your dad's storm the seat next to you and waking them up dad.
- 13:37[SPEAKER_02]: It's about ready to get good.
- 13:38[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
- 13:43[SPEAKER_03]: All right guys, give me a player or two that you didn't see come in that is off to a good start.
- 13:50[SPEAKER_03]: Jordan Walker.
- 13:53[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you expected some kind of good start right just now not that he's been hotter than the surface of the sun did not expect it that chased a louder I guess and Cleveland if I'm going to use my non bias I didn't really expect to rookie to come out and be second leg and home runs um but Jordan Walker's he's been incredible I I can't I hope that it's real the breakout is really he owns it he's so young at 23 but
- 14:19[SPEAKER_02]: based on what I've seen the last two years I didn't think he hadn't been in my, I thought he was going to be a fourth outfielder first career.
- 14:31[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take Xavier Edwards of the Marlins.
- 14:39[SPEAKER_01]: That's a deep pole ball.
- 14:41[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just wouldn't expect him to hit 350.
- 14:43[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll take the Marlins.
- 14:46[SPEAKER_03]: They look pretty good.
- 14:47[SPEAKER_03]: They might be a legit contender, guys.
- 14:52[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
- 14:53[SPEAKER_01]: The meds are going to figure it out.
- 14:55[SPEAKER_01]: That's to to tough a division.
- 14:59[SPEAKER_03]: I'll take the marlins over the meds.
- 15:02[SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about that on our podcast.
- 15:03[SPEAKER_03]: We'll.
- 15:04[SPEAKER_00]: That'll be interesting.
- 15:05[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be interesting to see how quickly the meds can turn it around because they look pretty bad right now.
- 15:11[SPEAKER_03]: and they did last year when everybody expected things of them and they did well in every other year when people expect to have the first half last year they were good.
- 15:20[SPEAKER_01]: So uh-huh.
- 15:27[SPEAKER_01]: So good baseball's back.
- 15:31[SPEAKER_01]: Even if you have to mow the lawn, it's worth it.
- 15:34[SPEAKER_02]: It is, you get to turn the game on, the tread funds on, get the radio broadcast, John Rooney, on the call voice of the Cardinals, much better than anybody named Carrie, I agree.
- 15:49[SPEAKER_02]: Love listening to John Rene, Ricky Orton on the call.
- 15:52[SPEAKER_02]: I listened to him tonight before I got on the podcast.
- 15:55[SPEAKER_02]: I do like to watch it on TV, but baseball is still a game that I believe if you're really romantic about you love to listen to the radio call, I think it's just, it's a sport built for radio broadcast.
- 16:11[SPEAKER_00]: Amen.
- 16:12[SPEAKER_00]: Most of the time I'm listening to radio guys as I'm watching the game.
- 16:16[SPEAKER_03]: good way to do it as well.
- 16:18[SPEAKER_03]: I think the booth right now for the reds is fantastic.
- 16:22[SPEAKER_03]: They make watching the games enjoyable.
- 16:25[SPEAKER_03]: Very larken.
- 16:26[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 16:27[SPEAKER_03]: The rest of my think of fantastic.
- 16:29[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
- 16:32[SPEAKER_03]: Who's your favorite book?
- 16:34[SPEAKER_00]: Oh well just of their own quality the the giants guys cannot be
- 16:45[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's, he's so good.
- 16:47[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 16:50[SPEAKER_01]: Give me our Michaels Bob cost us.
- 16:55[SPEAKER_03]: Yes indeed.
- 16:57[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
- 16:58[SPEAKER_03]: The three that I want to tune in for.
- 17:01[SPEAKER_03]: Concentrating.
- 17:03[SPEAKER_03]: I'll take Michaels first, but cost us is a close second.
- 17:06[SPEAKER_03]: Both great.
- 17:08[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I can't say that I've honestly really remember cost us around Michaels as baseball broadcasters at all.
- 17:16[SPEAKER_02]: I know I'm going to get flagged for, but I think Joe books actually are really good broadcaster.
- 17:21[SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoy when he he's joined the Cardinals a couple times as a guest.
- 17:27[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 17:27[SPEAKER_02]: And I know obviously I'm going to show my bias here.
- 17:29[SPEAKER_02]: I thought then my glocklin when he was the TV guy for the Cardinals was one of the best in the biz in terms of regional broadcast.
- 17:37[SPEAKER_02]: why he can't pay for a Uber is beyond me.
- 17:40[SPEAKER_02]: But don't drive drunk.
- 17:41[SPEAKER_02]: You're wealthy enough pay and Uber and then I would not have to listen to Chip Carrey.
- 17:47[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
- 17:48[SPEAKER_03]: No one, no one wants to listen to a Carrey.
- 17:52[SPEAKER_03]: Ever.
- 17:53[SPEAKER_03]: I don't.
- 17:55[SPEAKER_03]: Oh.
- 17:57[SPEAKER_03]: Miss you Vince Goley.
- 17:59[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
- 18:03[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody called a baseball game better than Bob Costas.
- 18:06[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody.
- 18:07[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, especially a regular season game that didn't matter.
- 18:11[SPEAKER_03]: You want Bob Costa so on that call.
- 18:13[SPEAKER_03]: I'll take your report.
- 18:15[SPEAKER_02]: I will, I will take your report.
- 18:17[SPEAKER_03]: Now, is it a world series game?
- 18:19[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe give me jackbuck.
- 18:21[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe give me Ben Scully.
- 18:23[SPEAKER_03]: But a regular game, a Wednesday night game?
- 18:27[SPEAKER_03]: Give me Bob Costa.
- 18:30[SPEAKER_03]: And how Michael's on Monday night baseball was, and that was good.
- 18:36[SPEAKER_03]: Joe Garajola.
- 18:38[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
- 18:41[SPEAKER_03]: I'll go and back.
- 18:42[SPEAKER_03]: You're like, a couple years older than I am.
- 18:46[SPEAKER_03]: You were the ones I've been up to you.
- 18:47[SPEAKER_03]: I don't really remember my life.
- 18:50[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.
- 18:52[SPEAKER_00]: On radio, Vince Gully and Ernie Harwell.
- 18:58[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
- 18:58[SPEAKER_00]: I just like, no.
- 18:58[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm not laughing.
- 18:59[SPEAKER_00]: It was great.
- 19:00[SPEAKER_00]: But by the time I listened to him, he was fast as prime.
- 19:06[SPEAKER_00]: If you can't feel it, we'll do the original thing.
- 19:51[SPEAKER_03]: The central Indian sports report is a product of ITG media.
- 19:58[SPEAKER_03]: And I love Susie.