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- 0:06It's. All.
- 0:07Going to zero against Bitcoin. It's going up forever, Warren.
- 0:19You're against Bitcoin. You're against freedom.
- 0:23Yeah. Welcome to another episode of
- 0:25Simply Bitcoin Live, your number one source for the peaceful
- 0:27Bitcoin revolution called Breaking News, Culture and Magic
- 0:29Warfare. We will be your guide through
- 0:31the separation of money and state.
- 0:32And today is one of those episodes where we're going to
- 0:34talk about the separation of money and state, the US
- 0:37government's attack. Well, I can't say that that's
- 0:39not a fair characterization. Some members of the US
- 0:46government took advantage of the tragedy happening in the Middle
- 0:50East. To and their allies in the
- 0:54legacy corporate media to take advantage of what's happening to
- 1:00really pass through this narrative that Bitcoin and
- 1:03crypto was being used to fund terrorism and then that led to
- 1:09the FIN CEN, which is part of the Treasury to recommend these
- 1:14broad regulations that I have no idea how that's going to be
- 1:17enforced, but whatever that essentially would.
- 1:21Make it so that every single, basically every single Bitcoin
- 1:25transaction how it currently stands would have to be reported
- 1:29now, after the fact. It came out that the article was
- 1:36blatantly false. It was misrepresented,
- 1:38misrepresented the data. But that didn't matter, right?
- 1:41The FinCEN proposal stayed. There's currently an open
- 1:45comment period which I highly suggest you get involved in,
- 1:48just like leave your thoughts. But it seems like they got away
- 1:52with it because essentially, without the proposal even being
- 1:57introduced, what ended up happening is that already some
- 2:01financial institutions are already blocking certain Bitcoin
- 2:05transactions that are involved in coin mixing.
- 2:08So if you use Samurai, if you use Wasabi and then you send
- 2:13that Bitcoin to a an exchange, it might get flagged right now.
- 2:19There was a huge amount of backlash over the last week,
- 2:23basically putting the blame on the exchanges or on some
- 2:27exchanges in particular. But The thing is, what you guys
- 2:30have to understand is that exchanges aren't banks, right?
- 2:33As long as there's the on and off ramp choke point, and as
- 2:38long as people are using legacy banks to buy Bitcoin, that is a
- 2:45choke point and that is a choke point that governments are gonna
- 2:47take advantage of. I think moments like these
- 2:50highlights the importance of really understanding how to use
- 2:55Bitcoin, peer-to-peer, how to download peer-to-peer, or how to
- 2:58use peer-to-peer alternatives like bisque and like a Steco.
- 3:02Huge fan of what Beauty On is doing with the Steco.
- 3:05But yeah, this is part of it. This is part of the separation
- 3:08of money in state. And the the thing that
- 3:09aggravates me the most is the fact that they were able to
- 3:14really pass this narrative. Even though it's completely
- 3:18false and without it being even introduced, banks and financial
- 3:25institutions are taking these preemptive measures, which is
- 3:30absolutely crazy. And then it's the continuation
- 3:33of privacy, which is completely against the 4th amendment in the
- 3:37United States, which is no unreasonable search and seizure.
- 3:41That just completely got thrown out the window.
- 3:46But I mean, look, this is exactly what you would expect.
- 3:51As you know, the, the, the example that I always bring up
- 3:54is like a wounded animal trapped into a corner.
- 3:57That's when they get most vicious, right.
- 3:59And I think that whether it's Elizabeth Warren's Freudian slip
- 4:03a couple weeks ago where she's connecting Bitcoin self custody
- 4:07with crime. Or she's insinuating it.
- 4:09Whether you see Christine Lagarde's desperation when she's
- 4:13saying that the CBDC is coming and it's here to stay and
- 4:16there's absolutely nothing you could do about it.
- 4:18Or whether she even gets caught saying the quiet part out loud,
- 4:21saying that Bitcoin is an escape valve, right?
- 4:23There's multiple signs that show you that the powers that be, the
- 4:27people that want you to use Fiat currencies in the future of Fiat
- 4:31currencies, which are central bank digital currencies, are
- 4:34absolutely terrified. Of Bitcoin.
- 4:36But most importantly, not only are they terrified of Bitcoin,
- 4:39they're terrified of people taking self custody of their
- 4:42money, which won't allow them to confiscate it easily, either
- 4:48through direct confiscation or confiscation through inflation.
- 4:52Because that's really what inflation is.
- 4:54At the end of the day. It's fundamentally theft.
- 4:57It's devaluing your purchasing power at no fault of your own.
- 5:01And we're going to play you a clip for you guys today of the
- 5:04current U.S. President absolutely gaslighting
- 5:07the American people, basically saying that the government is
- 5:11not responsible whatsoever for inflation, right.
- 5:15So yeah, it it's some crazy times we're living through, but
- 5:20I suspect it will be, it will get a little bit tougher before
- 5:23it gets better. I I just don't believe that.
- 5:28These institutions, nation states that have benefited
- 5:31tremendously from the power of the money printer, are just
- 5:34going to gently give up that power.
- 5:37I just don't think that is like, you know, that's a fairy tale.
- 5:40That's what we want to tell ourselves.
- 5:42Like Bitcoin's just better money.
- 5:43Everyone's just going to get on board.
- 5:45There's very, very powerful players that benefit
- 5:49tremendously from being able to create money for free that
- 5:51everyone else has to work for, and I think they're going to
- 5:54fight tooth and nail. To maintain that privilege.
- 5:57They're gonna lie, misrepresent, print propaganda, anything you
- 6:01can think of. I think they'll try to throw at
- 6:02us. Our best hope is to win over the
- 6:06adoption race and win the information war, which I think
- 6:09we're clearly winning, especially on the battlegrounds
- 6:11of the Internet. It's home turf advantage for us.
- 6:14Army Maddox are just better than theirs.
- 6:16But we gotta keep propagating the truth.
- 6:18We gotta keep propagating those memes and really get the message
- 6:21out there. And stay away from the the
- 6:26distractions, the divide and conquer strategy, which is like,
- 6:30oh, you know, this is a liberal or left wing thing.
- 6:35This is a Republican or conservative or a right wing
- 6:37thing. Bitcoin's a great unifier.
- 6:40It's for everybody. It's going to bring people
- 6:42together. I truly believe that.
- 6:44So it's important that instead of infighting, it's important
- 6:48that we come together and we really truly understand who the
- 6:52true enemies of Bitcoin are, which are the central bankers
- 6:56and you know all the establishment, all the
- 6:58institutions that benefit from from Fiat.
- 7:01So anyways, it's going to be an interesting episode.
- 7:03We have all the receipts for you guys.
- 7:04As always. I want to bring up my legendary
- 7:06Co host, always optimistic and he's in like 3340 today.
- 7:11He's super pixely. I don't know what's.
- 7:13Happening. Am I how?
- 7:13You doing? How you doing Opti?
- 7:15I thought I fixed this. It looks good on my end.
- 7:17I don't know. Let me know in the chat.
- 7:19I'm doing well. Doing well.
- 7:22Someone was saying, are we gonna get pessimistic fields today?
- 7:25No, I feel great. I've been sleeping.
- 7:27Wonderful. Life's good in the face of
- 7:29everything going on. I just keep thinking of the
- 7:33meme. You know everything's good for
- 7:34Bitcoin and we knew that this was coming.
- 7:37We knew that we're in the then they fight you stage and and
- 7:40Nico, you and I have been talking about this all year.
- 7:42We've been seeing this coming down the pipeline and at first
- 7:45we were kind of wondering whether we were right or not or
- 7:49whether we were reading into things.
- 7:51But it's becoming very clear that we we were definitely on
- 7:58point. So hey, crazy, crazy stuff.
- 8:01But. I'm not surprised we've.
- 8:05Been calling this for months. We've been calling this for
- 8:07months. It was.
- 8:08Operation choke point. 2.0. Operation I guess I am I am
- 8:11coming in bad once I you're. Back, you're back.
- 8:13You're back, you're back, you're back.
- 8:15It was Operation Choke Point 2.0.
- 8:17It was like all the series of events.
- 8:18We had interviews with like Caitlyn Long and whatever and
- 8:21she was like saying. The.
- 8:22Tornado cache. Yeah, the Tornado caches would
- 8:25start it at all. It's really what set the
- 8:26precedent. Like we like we said, it was
- 8:28gonna set a precedent, right? So anyways, it's going to be
- 8:32interesting episode. I want to bring up our guests
- 8:34today. Leon, thank you so much for
- 8:35joining us. We appreciate it.
- 8:37Sup guys? Thank you for the invite.
- 8:39I appreciate it as well. Thank you.
- 8:41Thank you. So, Opti, what are we going to
- 8:42talk about during the culture? Yeah, yeah.
- 8:44So Leon actually wrote a thesis on Bitcoin, which we'll probably
- 8:50touch on at least the basics of it.
- 8:52And we did kind of have been having a running theme here the
- 8:55last couple of weeks on Bitcoin versus real estate.
- 8:58I know out there when I talk to average.
- 9:00People, they're always like, oh, bitcoin's too complicated.
- 9:03I'm just going to go into the safe bet, which is real estate.
- 9:06And we're we're still here trying to educate people that
- 9:09for the average person, Bitcoin might be a better choice, it
- 9:12might be a better alternative. And we will kind of connect
- 9:14this, as Leon was telling me before the show, with what's
- 9:16going on with the housing market.
- 9:18So I think we're going to have a good wide-ranging conversation
- 9:21for you guys in the culture. And of course, like always, you
- 9:23guys can drop some questions in there in the chat for us and and
- 9:26we'll do our best to cover it. But yeah, I think it's gonna be
- 9:30a good one. Yeah, it's gonna be a good one,
- 9:32to say the least. All right, everybody, no more
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- 11:20April 20th, 2024. Total Lightning network capacity
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- 11:52of 1 Bitcoin between 500 and 600 thousand U.S. dollars.
- 11:58All right, everybody. So I have just a couple videos.
- 12:01This is a montage of, you know, when I talk about the Fiat
- 12:05regime, the Fiat establishment and the world ahead of us.
- 12:10And I I I really want you guys to start looking at the world
- 12:14from this perspective because. It's truly Bitcoin versus
- 12:18slavery. It's truly the party of Bitcoin,
- 12:21the party of pre, peace, opportunity, prosperity,
- 12:24freedom, which is Bitcoin, versus the party of green, which
- 12:28is the party of slavery, Fiat, poverty, censorship,
- 12:34confiscation, you name it, right.
- 12:37And it could be a little bit obfuscated right now.
- 12:39I think a lot of people are, you know, tensions are high,
- 12:43political tensions are high, but truly?
- 12:46You're either on the side of Bitcoin or you're either on the
- 12:49side of central banking and Fiat and inflation.
- 12:53There is no in between. You can't just be like, you
- 12:55can't just be in the middle ground and say I'm for both.
- 12:59No, because the other side, they don't want Bitcoin to exist.
- 13:03Look at all the actions that they've taken.
- 13:05Central banks don't want Bitcoin to exist.
- 13:07And I'll even go further than that.
- 13:09I would say that central banks can't have Bitcoin existing.
- 13:14If they want to exist themselves because because of Bitcoin's
- 13:18incentives, people will naturally pick the better money
- 13:21over time. Maybe it'll maybe it'll be a
- 13:23multi generational thing, but people will eventually find out
- 13:27what is the better money. And you're seeing this already
- 13:30in the global S where people, it's been accelerated in the
- 13:36global S because they don't have stable Fiat currencies, so they
- 13:41are forced to look for alternatives.
- 13:43So and then you look at, you look at Bitcoin, you're like,
- 13:46you know, that's that's pretty good, that's, that looks pretty
- 13:48good over there, right. So anyways, here's Joe Biden
- 13:52absolutely gaslighting the American people.
- 13:55Let's check out what he has to say.
- 13:56It's only 11 seconds. So I'm sick of this stuff.
- 14:02We have to talk about it because the American people think the
- 14:05reason for inflation is government spending more money.
- 14:07Simply not true. So I'm sick.
- 14:11I mean like. Like, I'm sick of.
- 14:15I'm sick of the lies. Like, I I'll say that he's sick
- 14:18of that. I'm sick of the lies, to be
- 14:20honest with you. And then on the other side, the
- 14:25founder of the World Economic Forum, which I called the
- 14:28Contilion Air Conference in Davos, Switzerland, Klaus
- 14:31Schwab, is talking about privacy.
- 14:33And today's episode is really going to talk about privacy.
- 14:36And you have to understand guys how interlinked all of this
- 14:39stuff is, right? The reason that they have to get
- 14:43rid of privacy, the reason that you have the president of the
- 14:46United States gas letting the American people basically making
- 14:49the case that it it's completely irrelevant that the US
- 14:53government printed a record amount of money and after that
- 14:57record money printing came crazy inflation.
- 15:00That's completely uncorrelated. That's what he would like you to
- 15:02believe. Now here's the thing.
- 15:05And This is why they This is why you know, they're trying to
- 15:08censor speech on the Internet. As long as people are just
- 15:12calling out the BS, it makes it very, very uncomfortable for
- 15:15them because they don't have a good response.
- 15:18They they can't use the truth to argue.
- 15:21They can't just say, you know what?
- 15:23Actually the real cause of inflation is this, this and this
- 15:27and this and that. And then obviously, you know,
- 15:30all it takes is just one Bitcoin, or making a meme, or
- 15:32making a video, doing a little bit of research and then that
- 15:35video going viral to completely debunk.
- 15:38Anything that the central bankers and their allies would
- 15:41like us to believe. So their response, their knee
- 15:45jerk reaction is just to censor the opposition.
- 15:47That's a lot easier if you censor the opposition.
- 15:50You even have to rebuke what they have to say cuz they're
- 15:51just doesn't even exist what they're saying, right?
- 15:55So anyways, here's Kyle Schwab. Let's check out what he has to
- 15:58say. So New Woman is do I accept the
- 16:03in Transparens is your the Remem in Transparens total tuba ET
- 16:08transparen ET info so comport a. So basically, you know the
- 16:24interview originally was in French.
- 16:26And he's saying, like, look, in the new world, everything is
- 16:29going to be transparent and if you have nothing to hide, you
- 16:32shouldn't be afraid. But you know, privacy is gone.
- 16:35Forget about it. Except when it comes to central
- 16:38banks and their monetary policy, right.
- 16:40And that transparency doesn't apply there, except for, you
- 16:44know, politicians, financials and stuff.
- 16:46No that that that transparency doesn't apply there because.
- 16:50If you look at Bitcoin, Bitcoin is extremely transparent.
- 16:53It's an open Ledger. Everyone could download a copy,
- 16:55you can see every single transaction.
- 16:57You could check the supply of Bitcoin yourself.
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- 17:10But yeah, it it it's, you know it's it's a it's a bit of a
- 17:16projection on to us because. I I bet you Klaus Schwab's inner
- 17:22workings and inner dealings are not a. 100% sure has a Swiss
- 17:25bank account like, let's be honest here.
- 17:27Yeah. Like there's no, there's no way.
- 17:30Like you know and it and it again like it's like they want
- 17:33the CBDC's which are not going to be the monetary policy is not
- 17:37going to be transparent. The, you know, the inner
- 17:39workings of the central bank are not going to be transparent.
- 17:41What's going to be transparent is everyone else's transactions,
- 17:44right. So it's basically you have the
- 17:47elite bureaucratic class. They get special rules and then
- 17:51everyone else, you're just serfs.
- 17:54You just gotta, you have to deal with the transparency of which
- 17:57we're gonna judge. And if you're behaving badly,
- 18:01that's bad, but. Bitcoin is transparent by design
- 18:05and everyone sees everyone's transactions, right?
- 18:08They they might not know, you know, what Bitcoin is, belongs
- 18:12to who, but it is an open Ledger.
- 18:14I would make the case that Bitcoin is extremely more, it's
- 18:17much more transparent than any type of central bank and any
- 18:21type of central bank. Monetary policy.
- 18:24Yeah, so you know, just the gaslighting from Joe Biden and
- 18:28then a Klaus Schwab. Once again, they're so
- 18:31emboldened. That they're just they they
- 18:33don't even care at this point. They just say the quiet part out
- 18:35loud and they're just like, yeah, I deal with it.
- 18:37There's nothing you could do about it.
- 18:39I'd like to, I'd like to make a comment to to what Biden said.
- 18:43We we get into it when we talk about housing.
- 18:46But obviously what he said is is nonsense because the value of
- 18:50money is tied to the overall supply of money and as the the
- 18:54supply of money increases, individual monetary units lose
- 18:58purchasing power. But what's more important,
- 19:01people look for scarce assets. So as money loses purchasing
- 19:04power, people look to invest in scarce assets.
- 19:07And people typically next to bonds, stocks, gold, or art,
- 19:13they invest in real estate, right?
- 19:15So money losing purchasing power has made real estate so
- 19:18expensive and has increased the cost of living tremendously.
- 19:23So the government producing our money is just not decimating
- 19:26people's purchasing power. It also makes life much, much
- 19:30harder because the cost of living, which housing is a huge
- 19:34part of, is rising enormously At this point in time.
- 19:38I think it's like 67% of the world's wealth is stored in in
- 19:43real estate, so it became the number one savings account for
- 19:45the world. Yeah, yeah.
- 19:47It's incredible. You hit the nail on the head and
- 19:50that takes away the opportunity for young families if you're up
- 19:54and coming and you're trying to buy a piece of real estate.
- 19:57You know, you're priced out. You're priced out.
- 19:59Which is why. And and I think they're OK with
- 20:01that and their propaganda really aligns with that.
- 20:04That's why they're telling you you'll own nothing and be happy.
- 20:06They're trying to condition you to to be OK with having less
- 20:11because they know that you're not gonna have the
- 20:14opportunities, the opportunity of ownership that your parents
- 20:17one had once had. You know, this is the
- 20:19consequence of broken money. This is the consequence of Fiat.
- 20:23Anyways, Opti, what's your take on this?
- 20:25Yeah. So first and foremost on that
- 20:28Biden clip, it makes me think of a few things.
- 20:32First and foremost, it's really just like how uneducated people
- 20:35really are in regards to economics and what the true
- 20:38nature of inflation is. And the fact that he can go out
- 20:40there on television and say that inflation isn't caused by
- 20:43government spending is absolutely ludicrous.
- 20:45We all know that the expansion of money supply is the very
- 20:48reason for inflation. So they can blame on inflation.
- 20:51What are all the examples they had this year?
- 20:53Nico is like blame Beyoncé and Taylor rather Swift and you know
- 20:57everything. But the fact that they are
- 20:59printing more money and that's what's causing inflation.
- 21:03And yet they still continue to find reasons to print more
- 21:07money. And people for some reason are
- 21:10still just taking this and they're taking that abuse and
- 21:13they're getting robbed and they don't understand that this is
- 21:16the mechanism that is robbing them is by them printing more
- 21:19money. And you know, I, I I don't want
- 21:23to say it's all by design, but Nico, you know it's all I I
- 21:26think this is all by design at this point.
- 21:27They they don't want you educated on how the economy
- 21:30works. They don't want you educated on
- 21:32how money works, how the Fiat currencies work because it's a
- 21:35lot easier to rob you if you are uneducated.
- 21:39And then on the the Claude Schwab point like absolutely
- 21:43incredible that the same story is being told over and over and
- 21:47over again. I we've heard this so many times
- 21:49throughout history. If you have nothing to hide,
- 21:51then you shall be good. And it it's it's disgusting.
- 21:55Like Claude Schwab is wearing clothes.
- 21:58He's obviously got something to hide.
- 22:00Like we we have curtains in our house and privacy is a human
- 22:03right. Like I I shouldn't have to ask
- 22:05them for my own privacy. He's not.
- 22:07He's not gonna play by the same rules.
- 22:09Well, of course rules for the but not for me.
- 22:11It like he's not and like. You know, he's gonna have some,
- 22:15like, special privileges, like he's not gonna have to share his
- 22:18financial, you know, data and his social media posts and all
- 22:22that stuff like. You know, like he's not gonna
- 22:25have to do that. It's just the rest of us, you
- 22:27know the rest. So it's again, it's it's
- 22:29creating like this like neo feudalistic society where it's
- 22:33like government, central banks, basically the controllers and
- 22:36the main benefactors of the Fiat system are just basically
- 22:40enslaving everyone else. Dude, it is, it is crazy, man.
- 22:43It is. It's just crazy, this crazy,
- 22:45crazy world. And.
- 22:46And wait, wait before I go on being a little bit
- 22:49conspiratorial here, he for sure has like, Swiss bank accounts.
- 22:54It's not like he's showing us all of his assets.
- 22:57And yet we're criminals because we want to do similar things to
- 23:00him. It's just like, man, you know,
- 23:02silly peasant, don't try to be me.
- 23:04You don't deserve freedom. You don't deserve transaction.
- 23:06Show us everything. You're a good human.
- 23:09You don't have anything to hide. Like, if you have nothing to
- 23:11hide, you don't have a problem. It's like, it's absolutely
- 23:14insane that this is where we are.
- 23:15Where I know we live in a digital world and everything is
- 23:19basically surveilled and and we basically have no semblance of
- 23:23privacy in the world today. But I don't think that that we
- 23:26should just continue to be OK with this.
- 23:29We we should do what we can to protect ourselves and and follow
- 23:33best privacy practices and and then like we have curtains in
- 23:37our house like it's it's very simple you just don't want
- 23:39everyone knowing what you do. Like I know we're all digital
- 23:41natives now. I know we're all on social media
- 23:43and we post every thought we've ever had on the Internet.
- 23:46But you know, my mom always told me a simple idea like don't be
- 23:50putting everything on the Internet.
- 23:51She's still terrified of the Internet, probably for good
- 23:54reason. Shouts out to my mom.
- 23:57Anyways guys, if you're enjoying the live stream, make sure to
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- 24:04Algro. Wait, wait, wait, sorry, sorry.
- 24:06Elaine hit the nail on that. He lives in Switzerland, of
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- 26:36All right, everybody. So, so this was a series of
- 26:42events that happened over a couple of months, almost a year.
- 26:49And it really started with this. And we made the claim when this
- 26:52happened that this was going to set a precedent and if they got
- 26:56away with this, they would use this for things in the future.
- 27:02So what am I talking about? Tornado cash founders charged
- 27:06with money laundering and sanction violations, right?
- 27:11Here's Coin Center, who is, you know, a lobbying arm for the
- 27:15Bitcoin and crypto industry in the Imperial City, Washington,
- 27:18DC And I think they break down the significance of why it was
- 27:25so, why it was so consequential. And I I would make the case that
- 27:30really they were just waiting for a straw man.
- 27:34To to go after Bitcoin privacy, but not only not only privacy
- 27:40tools, but also setting the precedent to apply U.S.
- 27:46sanctions to open source technology, right, Open source
- 27:50software. That's never been done in
- 27:52American history before. And we were making the case like
- 27:55this is this is bad, right? And then after they set the
- 27:59sanction, you know, they arrested these guys.
- 28:01These guys are on trial. But anyways, it goes on to say
- 28:05today Coinsetter, along with a group of normal privacy seeking
- 28:08workers, donors, activists and public figures, filed A lawsuit
- 28:11against the Treasury Department to keep privacy normal, to
- 28:14delist tornado cash privacy tools from sanctions, and to
- 28:18enjoying Treasury from enforcing against ordinary Americans
- 28:22exercising their self-evident and basic rights to privacy.
- 28:26Second, even Treasury's own regulations and past executive
- 28:29orders limit the applicability of sanction controls to
- 28:32transactions with persons, entities or their property.
- 28:36The tornado cash sanction was made without statutory and also
- 28:39without regulatory authority. It was made contrary to law.
- 28:43Third in sanctioning tornado cash tools.
- 28:46The Treasury failed to consider the collateral consequences of
- 28:49its actions or manifest any awareness of or jurisdiction for
- 28:54their significant deviation from previous sanction policies.
- 28:57Their actions were arbitrary and capricious, right.
- 29:01So that was something that we were covering for a very, very
- 29:05long time. And we said, guys, this is, this
- 29:08is not a step in the right direction.
- 29:10Now the Treasury got emboldened because after this lawsuit.
- 29:16They lost the lawsuit. Coin Center lost a lawsuit.
- 29:19This court victory for Treasury and indictment of tornado cash
- 29:22founders highlights AML and sanction risk for D5 Crypto
- 29:26protocols. Federal court in Texas sides
- 29:28with U.S. Department of the Treasury in
- 29:30tornado cash suit. Decentralized autonomous
- 29:33organizations can be sanctioned by the Office of Foreign Asset
- 29:36Control and smart contracts can be sanctionable Prop.
- 29:39Property one federal District Court has held.
- 29:43Courts likely will defer to the OFACS authority to designate non
- 29:47traditional entities such as Dows, emphasizing the US
- 29:51sanction risks across the Defy space.
- 29:53I just want to mention guys, this not only applied to Defy,
- 29:57this was the foot in the door. The last passage there was the
- 30:01key passage. Courts likely will defer to the
- 30:04Office of Foreign Asset Controls Authority to designate non
- 30:07traditional entities right. And then what happened?
- 30:11Move forward, you know, a couple of months and then all they
- 30:15needed was a crisis. All Elizabeth Warren needed was
- 30:18a crisis. Those the infamous article that
- 30:22Elizabeth Warren used to write a letter to the White House
- 30:25basically making the claim that exactly what the article says
- 30:29Hamas militant. Militants behind Israel attack
- 30:33raised millions of dollars in crypto.
- 30:36Now obviously what was discovered after the fact that
- 30:39this article was blatantly false.
- 30:41Here is the Bitcoin Senator, Senator Cynthia Lummis.
- 30:44She says an inaccurate report last week claimed Tomas raised
- 30:48nearly $100 million via crypto assets.
- 30:51In reality it was less than 500,000.
- 30:54But to be honest with you, I don't think they were really
- 30:56concerned for the truth. I think that they just like the
- 31:00tornado cash example. They needed a straw man.
- 31:03They needed a reason, a justification as to why they
- 31:07were going to take away more Americans freedoms.
- 31:11That was complete. That is completely against the
- 31:124th amendment anyway in my opinion.
- 31:15I'm not a lawyer of course. Anyways, it goes on to say
- 31:18Vincent seeks to impose strict surveillance requirements onto
- 31:21broadly defined class of Bitcoin mixers.
- 31:24You have to understand how the tornado cash.
- 31:28Ruling emboldened the Treasury. It emboldened them to go a
- 31:33little step further. It doesn't just start with
- 31:39taking everything all at once. We made the case that the reason
- 31:43that they picked tornado cash was because it's something that
- 31:47was not mainstream. It was something that was barely
- 31:49used, like people didn't know what tornado cash was.
- 31:52But we were making the case for you guys months ago that it
- 31:56would set a precedent. And that's exactly what it did.
- 31:59It emboldened certain members of government to further increase
- 32:05their surveillance powers and their censorship controls.
- 32:09So it goes on to say Fin CEN seeks to impose strict
- 32:12surveillance requirements onto broadly defined class of Bitcoin
- 32:16mixers. Now you would say, oh, it's just
- 32:19Bitcoin mixers. No, no, no, no, no.
- 32:22It's a lot more than that because it's broad language, so
- 32:25they don't really specify. Exactly what Bitcoin mixers are
- 32:31they they look like? For example, here's a quote from
- 32:34the from the proposal creating and using single use wallets,
- 32:39addresses or accounts and sending CVC through these
- 32:42wallets, addresses or accounts in a series of transactions.
- 32:46Now I believe that is nefarious. I believe that is on purpose.
- 32:51By default your Bitcoin wallet once you receive Bitcoin.
- 32:56It makes a new Bitcoin wallet. It uses another Bitcoin wallet,
- 32:59and it does that for privacy reasons.
- 33:02What they're basically saying is essentially, no, this is this
- 33:05apply. This counts as coin mixing.
- 33:09Now of course, this was all predicted by the book The
- 33:12Sovereign Individual back in the 1990s.
- 33:15I'm gonna read you guys this passage like I always do.
- 33:18Businesses that offer services that facilitate the realization
- 33:21of autonomy by individuals will be subject to infiltration,
- 33:24sabotage, and disruption. Arbitrary forfeiture of
- 33:27property, already commonplace in the United States where it
- 33:30occurs 5000 times a week, will become even more pervasive.
- 33:33Governments will violate human rights, censor the free flow of
- 33:36information, sabotage useful technologies, and worse.
- 33:40This is the separation of money in state, Ladies and gentlemen
- 33:43now. You would think, OK, this is a
- 33:45proposal. You know, this hasn't been
- 33:47implemented yet. Well, it has though, because a
- 33:51lot of banks, a lot of financial institutions have already taken
- 33:56preemptive measures. Now the news that came out over
- 33:59the weekend and there's a lot of backlash for this, was that Swan
- 34:04came out with an e-mail basically saying that, hey guys,
- 34:07we're going to limit customer's ability.
- 34:10To interact with mixers. Now, that's not what they said.
- 34:15Basically what they said is that their banking and custodial
- 34:19partners have made an update that could affect their account.
- 34:22So basically, Swan's banking partners and financial
- 34:26institutions, of which people use to buy Bitcoin and custody
- 34:29their Bitcoin, are now preemptively limiting
- 34:34transactions that had anything to do with mixers.
- 34:38There's a preemptive move. This was not done by SWAN.
- 34:41This was done by the financial institutions themselves.
- 34:43I believe that the FinCEN knew this was going to happen
- 34:46anyways. This describes more of it.
- 34:49It goes on to say, in light of the recent proposed ruling from
- 34:54FinCEN regarding Bitcoin mixers, they will no longer serve as
- 34:57clients who directly interact with Bitcoin, mixing services
- 35:01such as Wasabi Samurai and similar services.
- 35:04Please be advised that depositing directly from or
- 35:06withdrawing directly to a mixing wallet may result in the
- 35:10termination of your account with our banking or custodial
- 35:13partners. Here is Yan Pritzker.
- 35:16He is the CTO and Co founder of SWAN.
- 35:19He went on to say we didn't comply with anything the
- 35:21financial institutions that our users are depositing dollars
- 35:24funds into did. We fought them hard on this
- 35:27privately while publicly fighting FinCEN.
- 35:30We have been expanding our options with financial
- 35:32institutions, with a third coming online now and a fourth
- 35:35that we control in 2024. I expect, however, that all
- 35:38financial institutions in the USA will do this because it's
- 35:42defensive for them, just like they file bullshit SARS on all
- 35:46the time defensively. Now, keep that in mind.
- 35:49The proposal was never implemented, but financial
- 35:53institutions are already enforcing the proposed rules by
- 35:57the Fencenn. And these proposed rules were
- 36:00based on a bullshit article that misrepresented the data.
- 36:05Now if you go back in time, it really all started with the
- 36:11tornado cash that set the precedent.
- 36:14This was a series of events that took six months or so to play
- 36:18out. It was methodical.
- 36:19It was surgical. And make no mistake, it was
- 36:22without a shadow of a doubt, on purpose.
- 36:25All they needed was a crisis. In the case of tornado cash,
- 36:29they needed North Korea. In the case of the Fin CEN
- 36:32proposal, they needed the tragedy that was happening in in
- 36:37the Middle East. Anyways, here is more
- 36:40information that came out and here is, Corey, who is the CEO
- 36:47and founder of SWAN, said. We're negotiating with the banks
- 36:49and working on a lawsuit alongside many friends versus
- 36:52FIN CEN if needed. And in the meantime, just don't
- 36:55withdraw guys read between the lines.
- 36:57Just don't withdraw straight to Wasabi or Samurai unless you
- 37:01want a bank to maybe ask one of our settlement partners to
- 37:05freeze your account. See you on the battlefield Now
- 37:09what happened a lot also during the weekend?
- 37:11Is that a lot of the? Infighting.
- 37:14A lot of the energy and hatred was directed direct.
- 37:17It was directed to Swan guys. This applies to every single
- 37:22regulated Bitcoin exchange in the United States, not just
- 37:27Swan. Swan was just vocal about it.
- 37:29They released multiple media things.
- 37:31They released a live stream. They did a Twitter Spaces.
- 37:35Jan had this viral tweet that literally showed you how to
- 37:39comment on the Vincent proposal. But if you live in the United
- 37:42States, this applies to you. If you're using a, you know,
- 37:46traditional crypto exchange like Kraken, Coinbase, etcetera,
- 37:49etcetera, this applies. If you're using a Bitcoin only
- 37:52exchange, this applies to you. This doesn't just apply to SWAN.
- 37:57They got away with murder, essentially, and they used it
- 38:01and they used misrepresentations of data.
- 38:04In order to justify taking away more of your freedoms, they won
- 38:08this one and they got away with it dirty.
- 38:11And these these proposals haven't even been implemented.
- 38:14It haven't even been implemented yet.
- 38:16It's just a preemptive move by financial institutions to try to
- 38:20get ahead of this. Now it's interesting because I
- 38:22saw a lot of comments basically saying why doesn't the, you
- 38:26know, Bitcoin and crypto industry have their own banks?
- 38:29Well, that's exactly what Caitlin Long did.
- 38:32With the custodial Bank of the custodial bank in Wyoming.
- 38:35And you know what they did? They denied her a federal
- 38:38banking charter. And you know what they did?
- 38:39The week after they denied her a federal banking charter, they
- 38:42announced the American version of the central bank digital
- 38:45currency, the Fed. Now these are not coincidences
- 38:48ladies and gentlemen. These are methodical strategic
- 38:52moves right by the anti Bitcoin forces.
- 38:56To try to stop the adoption of Bitcoin or try to make it as
- 39:00inconvenient as possible to take self custody of your Bitcoin.
- 39:05Because the revolution is self custody.
- 39:08And that is the part that they fear most.
- 39:11So they're going to try to demonize it.
- 39:13They're trying, they're going to try to villainize it.
- 39:15They're going to try to criminalize it eventually,
- 39:19because this was the first step. It starts coin mixing and then a
- 39:24year from now or two years from now, they say listen.
- 39:26The coin mixing is it just wasn't enough.
- 39:30Someone who took self custody of their Bitcoin sent that money to
- 39:35a terrorist. So actually we can't even have
- 39:38you taking self custody of their Bitcoin.
- 39:39That make no mistake, that is that is where it's going.
- 39:45And this has nothing to do with SWAN.
- 39:47This has nothing to do with all the other Bitcoin exchanges.
- 39:50This has nothing to do with the crypto exchanges.
- 39:53This has to do. With governments wanting to
- 39:56close the escape valve, that is what they're trying to do.
- 40:01Make no mistake, they just need a straw man.
- 40:04They just need an excuse. They need a crisis.
- 40:08Because when a crisis happens, they say look over there, look
- 40:11over there, look at the shiny little gold toy over there and
- 40:14you, most people get distracted until on distracted to what
- 40:18they're really trying to do, what they're really doing.
- 40:21So. Wake up.
- 40:23The way that we fight this is Bitcoin mass adoption.
- 40:26The way that we fight this is waking up more people, educating
- 40:30more people to the benefits of self custody and waking up
- 40:34people to the fact that wait a second, so why is the government
- 40:38forcing me to use the money that steals from me?
- 40:40They don't even take responsibility for the inflation
- 40:44of which they 'cause. We played you a clip of Joe
- 40:47Biden in the beginning and if you still don't believe me that
- 40:49they don't want you to have privacy, look at the video that
- 40:52Klaus Schwab just played you. I mean, I just played you by by
- 40:55Klaus Schwab in in Bitcoin and Noster and all these things.
- 41:00Klaus Schwab's dream of this non privacy world wouldn't be
- 41:04possible. So what do you think he's going
- 41:06to try to do? He's going to try to take away
- 41:07those things. He's going to try to villainize
- 41:10those things. This is the separation of money
- 41:13in state, ladies and gentlemen. And the more we infight between
- 41:17different political ideologies and the more we infight as
- 41:21bitcoiners, it is distracting from the enemy at hand, the
- 41:26enemies of freedom, the enemies of Bitcoin.
- 41:29They would much rather us in fight that actually pay
- 41:32attention to what is actually going on.
- 41:35This was a major escalation because what they're saying is
- 41:40if you mix your coins, if you use samurai, if you use wasabi,
- 41:47you're guilty until you prove yourself innocent.
- 41:49Actually you're guilty, period. Just because you coin mix and
- 41:54you want some type of privacy that you're a criminal,
- 41:57essentially we're going to assume that you're doing
- 42:00criminal activity even though, as Cynthia Lummus pointed out,
- 42:0599% of illicit finance uses the traditional financial system.
- 42:12Let's ignore that inconvenient fact.
- 42:15So yeah, man, this is this is crazy dude.
- 42:18I mean, I'm not going to lie a little bit bummed out, Opti, but
- 42:22at the same time, I'm not surprised.
- 42:23As long as those on ramps and off ramps exist, this was always
- 42:27going to be a choke point. This was always going to be used
- 42:30against us and I think that's exactly what happened here.
- 42:35Yeah, I mean we've been seeing this happen for, we've been kind
- 42:39of seeing this slow train wreck happen all year.
- 42:42And at first we were kind of wondering whether we were on the
- 42:45right path or we were just seeing things or we're just
- 42:47click baiting titles over here. But it just it's slowly but
- 42:50surely has been pointing that the powers that be are
- 42:54absolutely terrified of Bitcoin because Bitcoin has made its way
- 42:57out the gate and it's getting a lot of media attention.
- 43:00And what happened over the weekend I actually I kind of
- 43:04unplugged and I had to catch up on Monday.
- 43:07I think is very unfortunate the fact that you know, Swan tried
- 43:11to be as transparent as possible and.
- 43:14Was basically telling you if you read between the lines, how to
- 43:18skirt this and how to protect yourself.
- 43:21And yet that gets lost on everyone.
- 43:23And someone dropped a great article in our telegram group
- 43:26and I'm blanking on who it was and what the website is.
- 43:28But they called it like the swan in the coal mine, you know, a
- 43:33play on the Canary in the coal mine.
- 43:35And we've seen that Gemini has done this crack and has done
- 43:39this Coinbase. Everyone has felt these
- 43:41pressures. And if you're going to scale an
- 43:43exchange, then you know that this is going to happen and for
- 43:47better or worse there is no quote UN quote Bitcoin or crypto
- 43:51bank yet and hopefully Custodia can be a part of that.
- 43:54Hopefully what Swan has in the works.
- 43:56I saw Corey was talking about it on the Internet and and yawn as
- 43:59well on some of the content that you guys are making that
- 44:02hopefully Q1 or if not sometime earlier.
- 44:06Well, rather, sometime during 2024 they will hopefully have
- 44:09something that will protect themselves.
- 44:12But it just goes to show how early we still are in this whole
- 44:14game. And if you're going to interact
- 44:18with the Fiat system, you're still going to have to play by
- 44:22their rules for for better or worse, it's still their
- 44:24playground. But look, it's as simple as
- 44:26this. Look, if you're using a bank to
- 44:29buy Bitcoin, which is the vast majority of people, this effects
- 44:33you. If you're buying Bitcoin
- 44:35peer-to-peer, using Bisk, using a Stecco, this does not affect
- 44:39you. The thing is that the vast
- 44:41majority of people use banks so that they so they will use this
- 44:45choke point that's that's the reality of it right And it it.
- 44:51And it's unfortunate. Now yon did release a basically
- 44:55a tutorial post that I highly recommend you guys check out and
- 44:59he literally walked you through what you can do right now.
- 45:03It should not take much of your time to leave a comment on the
- 45:08FinCEN on this proposal. Make your voice heard.
- 45:11There's only been 1000 comments so far.
- 45:13He literally made it incredibly easy for you guys.
- 45:16Here's a nice list of bullets. Go to ChatGPT and then leave
- 45:21your comment on the federalregister.gov FinCEN
- 45:24proposal. So get involved.
- 45:28Take action. Take agency as an individual.
- 45:30Now Jan said that he still believes this is going to pass.
- 45:34I I truly believe so as well. If they're OK with lying and
- 45:38misrepresenting to this extent, do you really think that they're
- 45:41just going to care what, you know, 1000 comments have to say?
- 45:45No, I think that they just needed they needed an excuse.
- 45:48But look, here's the thing, guys.
- 45:50Learn, learn peer-to-peer. Learn the we need the rise of
- 45:56the Bitcoin circular economy. So pay your friends in Bitcoin,
- 46:00you know, just stay within the Bitcoin circular economy because
- 46:03they have no power there, right? The the the power and the weak
- 46:06point is always going to be the on and off ramps.
- 46:10As long as you're dealing with a bank and then that bank is what
- 46:14you're using to purchase Bitcoin, they're going to
- 46:17exploit that. And they've they did.
- 46:18And this is what happened over the weekend anyways.
- 46:22I, I, yeah, I want to want to make a comment.
- 46:25First of all, I send out my condolences to everybody that
- 46:28has loved, has lost a loved one, of course, and the tragedy that
- 46:33you mentioned. But interestingly, Bitcoin is
- 46:36actually the solution to this problem.
- 46:38It's not part of the problem. Part of the problem is the Fiat
- 46:41system, because Fiat allows for war, which is unprofitable by
- 46:47definition because it's only about destruction to continue.
- 46:51So the problem is actually the Fiat system that funds these
- 46:53wars. And in 1914 when the Bank of
- 46:56England went off the gold standard to fund their war
- 46:59efforts in the First World War, we did enter the the the
- 47:04paradigm of endless wars, which is based on Fiat.
- 47:07So I just want to make a point here that Bitcoin is part of the
- 47:11solution because it is finite and supply that makes war
- 47:15unprofitable. And an interesting example of
- 47:18something that was banned in Germany was skateboarding.
- 47:21So skateboarding was banned in Germany in the 80s.
- 47:24And of course there's something that you can't ban.
- 47:26And I'll take that as an example to show people that I also don't
- 47:29believe you can ban Bitcoin. This is just just as somebody
- 47:34trying to keep a system that has already failed alive.
- 47:40But eventually, as you guys mentioned, Bitcoin will become
- 47:43greater and bigger than the Fiat system, similar to Honda Soviet
- 47:46Union. I read different numbers, but
- 47:48apparently at the end of the Soviet Union in the late
- 47:51eighties, 80% of the economic activity happened in this black
- 47:56market, quote UN quote. So I believe that in the future,
- 47:59potentially more economic activity will happen in Bitcoin,
- 48:04then in the Fiat system and then these people that are trying to.
- 48:08Prevent us from using Bitcoin become less important over time,
- 48:12A 100% I think that was beautifully said that was.
- 48:14Beautiful. I agree.
- 48:15I was. I was going to say that I was
- 48:17going to say the same thing. Like I I still think this is
- 48:19like a good thing for Bitcoin in the sense.
- 48:21It's like, look, hey, we don't want to go back into the Fiat
- 48:25world at all. Just we have to to survive here.
- 48:29And this is just going to further push the circular
- 48:32economy. And people are going to wake up
- 48:34to, hey, maybe I need to provide my services and goods for
- 48:38Bitcoin directly instead of going to exchanges, but we do
- 48:41know there's still people that want to interact with exchanges.
- 48:43And hey, the Gray markets are going to go strong.
- 48:46Gray markets building right now Jumpinika.
- 48:52Yeah. I mean look what you said about
- 48:55you know the the the it's not a coin in the.
- 49:00And I think this is Ron Paul's quote, right.
- 49:03It's not a coincidence that the century of central banking was
- 49:13also the century of the most wars in human history and the
- 49:16most destructive and deadly wars in human history.
- 49:19You know that that's that's what that's what I got to say about
- 49:23that. But anyways, this is just like
- 49:30this is serious stuff. Guys like this is serious stuff.
- 49:33Take it. Don't don't take it lightly.
- 49:35Take it serious. Take self custody.
- 49:38Run your own node. Empower yourself literally.
- 49:41Like, don't fight with violence. Don't fight with like bullshit.
- 49:46Fight with taking Bitcoin into self custody and educating the
- 49:50people around you. Because the more people are
- 49:53awake, they won't be able to get away with this BS.
- 49:57They will not be able to get away with it.
- 49:59They will not be able to get away with the gaslighting.
- 50:01They're able to get away with it because people are are asleep.
- 50:03People are. They're not aware of what is,
- 50:06what is money. They're not aware of what is
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- 51:24OK, so, Leon, we usually start our culture with a you know, how
- 51:31did you become a Bitcoiner? How'd you get here?
- 51:33But I think a great place to start for you is the fact that
- 51:37you wrote a thesis paper on Bitcoin, and I'm just going to
- 51:41say the title here for you. And then you can go wherever you
- 51:44want to go, and then we'll touch on some of those other topics.
- 51:46So your thesis here. Bitcoin, a qualitative study of
- 51:49a monetary alternative, its value and application.
- 51:53So how did we get here Leon? How did you write end up writing
- 51:56a a Bitcoin thesis paper? And maybe even how was it, How
- 52:00was the response to it? Yeah, sure.
- 52:04It also, like eventually will tie in real estate.
- 52:08Sweet. So I learned about starting
- 52:12philosophy before it was in financial economics.
- 52:15I did a bachelor and philosophy. And I came across Bitcoin
- 52:19because there were certain websites, they were very popular
- 52:22amongst the student body and I looked further into the money,
- 52:27the money that was used on those websites.
- 52:30And then I also to the Rabbit hall of Austria economics.
- 52:33So I learned about Ludwig von Mises and I learned Rothbard and
- 52:37methodological individualism. And I generally speaking, always
- 52:40was into counter. So I just.
- 52:44I didn't. Bitcoin, I just thought, it's
- 52:47interesting. So started and then a few years
- 52:49later I started my master's in financial economics and I wanted
- 52:54to write my thesis about Bitcoin.
- 52:56At that point of time I think that Ethereum was about to go
- 52:59live and a friend of mine who was into like venture capital or
- 53:02whatever, he heard about Ethereum and he knew I was into
- 53:06Bitcoin. He sent me the paper and I had
- 53:09problems what the use case for theorem was and what the
- 53:13difference between Bitcoin and Ethereum was.
- 53:16So that motivated me to look deeply into Bitcoin at the
- 53:20beginning, when you're not very happy with that because they
- 53:24believe Bitcoin to be a Ponzi scheme.
- 53:27But I eventually Winston that that's not the case and it's
- 53:30actually a breakthrough and monetology.
- 53:34So I started to study Bitcoin from the perspective of Austrian
- 53:37economics, the importance of individual freedom for the
- 53:42well-being society. And I also looked in particular
- 53:46in the potential of Bitcoin on this market and allowing
- 53:51individuals in the global S that have been excluded from existing
- 53:55monetaries to save build wealth and transact with each other.
- 54:01And then after university. So like 2016, two 1017, I got
- 54:07into state, I got into real estate development and I helped
- 54:10to build up a real estate development company.
- 54:13And at the time, I wasn't making the connection between Bitcoin
- 54:17and real estate. But as my interest in real
- 54:20estate grew and 2020 and when Michael Saylor, who I have to
- 54:25credit and obviously being inspiring and the way that he
- 54:28applied Bitcoin into more traditional business businesses,
- 54:33I started to understand or look at Bitcoin less as a medium of
- 54:38exchange. In more of a store value.
- 54:41Because at the time I have to be very honest, in the first copy
- 54:44of years of my Bitcoin experience, I was more looking
- 54:47at Bitcoin as a censorship resistant payment network.
- 54:50So the store value function is something that I understood
- 54:54quite late to be very honest with you.
- 54:56And then when I looked into real estate and why real estate has
- 55:00become so expensive, the reason why real estate has become so
- 55:04expensive. Also valuable is because people
- 55:08need to look for scarce assets to invest, because money is
- 55:11losing purchasing power through the issuance of new money
- 55:15continuously. And then I looked into the
- 55:18differences between Bitcoin and real estate.
- 55:20And if you look at Bitcoin and real estate just as a store
- 55:23value, Bitcoin is actually a much better store value.
- 55:29Real estate is very expensive to maintain.
- 55:32It literally decays over time because it's a physical good.
- 55:36It's expensive to rent out because renting out individual
- 55:40apartments takes time. And if you have loads of
- 55:43apartments, you usually need employees.
- 55:45So it's even costly to rent out the real estate.
- 55:48And something I think that ties into the article Nico that you
- 55:52showed, at this point in time we are facing potentially a third
- 55:56World War. Rather, it's a cyber war.
- 55:59It's a physical war. Real estate is susceptible to
- 56:02complete destruction and on the 23rd of February when the
- 56:07conflict in in Ukraine E Ukraine began, I've actually met people
- 56:11here in Berlin that were able to secure part of their wealth in
- 56:16Bitcoin, but the apartments that they owned were completely
- 56:19destroyed or they lost value. So at this point in time, I
- 56:24think the mobility of the store value of Bitcoin is becoming
- 56:27increasingly important. And as I understood that, I
- 56:31looked into the market cap of real estate and real estate has
- 56:34become the number one store value in the world.
- 56:36There's around $330 trillion stored in real estate.
- 56:39That's like 67% of the world's wealth.
- 56:42And I said to myself, if that is the number store value in the
- 56:46world and it's such a bad store value, I believe that Bitcoin is
- 56:50going to grab a significant part of the market cap of of real
- 56:54estate. So the real estate market cap is
- 56:56like 600 times larger at this point in time than Bitcoin.
- 57:00So I believe looking at the potential of Bitcoin, you know,
- 57:04people throw out huge numbers like, I don't know, 50 million,
- 57:0710 million or whatever and eventually in today's currency
- 57:10that might be true that. But to make a realistic
- 57:13assessment, I said maybe Bitcoin is going to catch like 10 to 50%
- 57:18of the market cap of real estate, and that is somewhere
- 57:21between 1.5 to $2.3 million per coin.
- 57:25And that is something that I believe to be realistic within
- 57:27the next decade. So then I started to look at two
- 57:32things. First of all, what are the
- 57:35positive implications for Society of Bitcoin draining the
- 57:39monetary premium that real estate has accumulated?
- 57:43So potentially, as people understand that Bitcoin is a
- 57:48better store fade in real estate, they don't invest in
- 57:51real estate anymore, They're just saving Bitcoin by default.
- 57:55And that creates less demand for real estate and that also
- 58:00creates dropping prices. And the second thing that I
- 58:05believe is important is in an inflationary system, it is
- 58:10actually necessary to be able to take credit because if you have
- 58:14savings as an entrepreneur, it creates an opportunity cost to
- 58:19spend all your savings on a business.
- 58:21Because you lose the opportunity to plan for the future because
- 58:25eventually that's what savings are.
- 58:26They are the ability for the individual to plan for the
- 58:28future. So it's important to take
- 58:30credit. And real estate is not only only
- 58:33the number one store value in the world, it's also the number
- 58:36one piece of collateral that is accepted by banks.
- 58:40But real estate has become out of unaffordable for most.
- 58:43So people can't save and they can't take credit, so they can't
- 58:47build a business. So they are completely priced
- 58:49out of the economic economic system.
- 58:51In real estate and difference to a Bitcoin, Bitcoin is
- 58:57accessible. You can buy Bitcoin for as
- 59:00little as a dollar. You can use it to save, build a
- 59:03capital base and potentially also lend against.
- 59:06It becomes less important to lend against your Bitcoin on a
- 59:10Bitcoin standard because we can save in Bitcoin, we don't need
- 59:13necessarily credit. But I still believe it's an
- 59:16important point and I had a conversation with a friend from
- 59:19Indonesia. And she told me for the first
- 59:22time in her life, she was able to travel to the United States
- 59:26because she was able to use a Bitcoin savings as collateral to
- 59:30lend money from her. I don't remember what
- 59:33institution she was working with, but she was able to lend
- 59:36some money and then travel to the US, head back to Indonesia
- 59:40and then pay back the loan over time.
- 59:42So we can already see the positive implications of of
- 59:46Bitcoin being adopted as a as a store value.
- 59:48Yeah. And and and you said so many.
- 59:50I have so many. Love it?
- 59:51Yes. Yes, that was incredible.
- 59:54First of all, you know, shout out for your proof of work that
- 59:57like, this is incredible and this is a this is a subject that
- 1:00:00I think really, really effects, you know, if you're Gen.
- 1:00:04Z or if you're a millennial and you're just.
- 1:00:08Getting to that age where you're starting a family, you're
- 1:00:10looking to get purchase your first home, you're completely
- 1:00:13pressed out and it's because of that monetary premium that's
- 1:00:17been given to real estate. It's not really the utility
- 1:00:20value, it's just people are trying to find a store of value.
- 1:00:23And I so not only your work, but Parker Lewis I think wrote a
- 1:00:28great piece. Basically, I think it was called
- 1:00:31the Great de financialization and he was basically making the
- 1:00:35case that as more and more people realize that Bitcoin is a
- 1:00:39superior store value, it will. They'll take it from real estate
- 1:00:44and they'll take it from, you know, other financial
- 1:00:46instruments and assets and all that stuff, and then they'll put
- 1:00:49all that into Bitcoin. Now you did give a price
- 1:00:52prediction, and we love price predictions on simply Bitcoin,
- 1:00:54even though we don't make it ourselves.
- 1:00:56You did make you did make the case that you're looking at a
- 1:00:591.5 to $2.3 million Bitcoin within the next decade.
- 1:01:04What made you so confident in that statement?
- 1:01:08I hope the numbers are correct. Actually I didn't.
- 1:01:11I hope the numbers are correct. So please check if I made a
- 1:01:14correct calculation. I made a calculation based on 10
- 1:01:17to 15% on the market cap of real estate and maybe my time frame
- 1:01:21is too fast, so maybe it's 15 or 20 years because these things
- 1:01:25actually take a little bit longer than I usually expect.
- 1:01:29I tend to become very bullish as a as a bitcoiner.
- 1:01:32And I think other bitcoiners do too.
- 1:01:34But I basically looked at the market cap of real estate set.
- 1:01:37The market cap of real estate is 330 trillion.
- 1:01:41Bitcoin is a superior store value.
- 1:01:44The digitalization of the value storage function optimizes
- 1:01:50almost all the functions of a store value.
- 1:01:53Bitcoin is finite and supply, and it's difficult to text.
- 1:01:58It is difficult to destroy and it's difficult to confiscate.
- 1:02:02And that is very, very important.
- 1:02:05So I believe that real estate might lose 10 to 15% of its
- 1:02:11monetary premium to Bitcoin and that would equivalent 1.5 to
- 1:02:17$2.3 million per Bitcoin. So maybe it's not going to be in
- 1:02:2110 years, maybe it's going to be in 1520 years, but it's going to
- 1:02:24happen and it's we are already seeing it.
- 1:02:27We are already seeing it. Gen.
- 1:02:30Z and millennials as you mentioned have been priced out
- 1:02:33of real estate. And when I talk to my friends
- 1:02:36that are you know below 25 or whatever, they basically they
- 1:02:40can't afford real estate. It's literally impossible for
- 1:02:43them to afford real estate because interest rates has have
- 1:02:47also gone up. So people don't buy real estate
- 1:02:50on cash, they buy real estate with credit and as interest
- 1:02:54rates go up. Less people can afford real
- 1:02:57estate because less people can afford to pay their interest
- 1:02:59rates, because with inflation, costs for goods and services and
- 1:03:04for rent have gone up, so people have less money to spend on
- 1:03:08interest rates to buy a house. So I believe that these
- 1:03:12individuals naturally will gravitate towards Bitcoin as
- 1:03:17their preferred store value anyway.
- 1:03:19So it's almost in my mind at least.
- 1:03:22Maybe I'm mistaken, but in my mind.
- 1:03:25Bitcoin for Gen. Z for millennials will become
- 1:03:30the number one store value basically by default because
- 1:03:34there's no other chance. Now we can see now people that
- 1:03:37already own real estate. The question is the boomers,
- 1:03:41will they sell their real estate for Bitcoin?
- 1:03:45I don't know. I don't necessarily believe so,
- 1:03:48but I have talked with some individuals.
- 1:03:51And what they do, they are either taking credit against
- 1:03:53their real estate to buy Bitcoin, or some of the people
- 1:03:57that I talk to are actually considering selling some of the
- 1:04:00real estate to put that money into Bitcoin.
- 1:04:03So as Bitcoin grows in value, it will absorb some of the monetary
- 1:04:09premium of real estate. But people will also gravitate
- 1:04:13towards Bitcoin rather than real estate as a store value because
- 1:04:18they have been priced out. And because they can't afford
- 1:04:22monthly interest rates, which I read in the US are between 7.5
- 1:04:26to 8%. And that is a substantial amount
- 1:04:30of money, considering that inflation has caused costs of
- 1:04:35goods and services and rent to Skyrocket.
- 1:04:37Yeah, man, it hit the nail on the head.
- 1:04:40Opti, I'm sure that you have so many thoughts and feelings.
- 1:04:43What are your thoughts? I'm I'm a priced out millennial.
- 1:04:46I don't own a house, so I just. I love being guys.
- 1:04:50Check out our geyser page, by the way, so we can get Opti off
- 1:04:53the street so that Opti does not have to be the likes of
- 1:04:57Christine Lagarde and Janet Yellen.
- 1:04:59But but I love, I loved hearing this because it, you know, it
- 1:05:03makes me feel better about my situation in the world.
- 1:05:05It's like, OK, I'm not alone here but I I like I said in the
- 1:05:07beginning I come across a lot of people that that are you know
- 1:05:11and and even people in the chat like hey, we're not saying don't
- 1:05:13buy a house guys. This is not what we're saying.
- 1:05:16Houses are great. Everyone should own a home if
- 1:05:19you are capable of. But I do hear a lot of people
- 1:05:22saying. And we even saw like, what's
- 1:05:25this Dave Ramsey last week say like, oh, I would never buy
- 1:05:28Bitcoin. I'm going to buy houses.
- 1:05:30And I just, I think this is misguided for a lot of people
- 1:05:33that they believe they need to store value in real estate when
- 1:05:37it's like guys, we have pristine collateral, we have the best
- 1:05:40savings technology, which is Bitcoin.
- 1:05:42And so I like bringing on people like yourself, Leon, that
- 1:05:45explain to people like, hey. Real estate will hold value.
- 1:05:49You know beautiful prize land on beachfront property will always
- 1:05:52be valuable. But there is AI don't know store
- 1:05:57value, premium on rent and and land right now in real estate
- 1:06:01and there's a good opportunity for us to save in Bitcoin and
- 1:06:06you have that chance today. And so I I just love when people
- 1:06:09come out here and they're so eloquent and they're like, yeah,
- 1:06:11maybe you need to buy some Bitcoin.
- 1:06:14Yeah, no, for sure. Thank you.
- 1:06:16And I also want to make a point, I am, I'm a real estate
- 1:06:19developer, so I still develop real estate actively.
- 1:06:22And if you are in real estate development, I just like to
- 1:06:26invite you to to open your mind to the possibility that Bitcoin
- 1:06:30brings about. I'm not trying to diminish real
- 1:06:34estate development and I'm not saying there's utility value and
- 1:06:38housing. And as you mentioned, housing in
- 1:06:40premium locations, they will always carry a certain premium
- 1:06:43because of the subjective subjective value of individuals,
- 1:06:48Beach property in Miami, property in Manhattan, and so
- 1:06:52forth. But as Bitcoin comes in, I
- 1:06:55believe housing will eventually collapse to its utility value,
- 1:07:00and that utility value is way less than the value right now.
- 1:07:04So it's just what percentage? Let's throw out some percentages
- 1:07:07out there, right. So like, so let's say the
- 1:07:10average. Opti, do you wanna do it?
- 1:07:13Thanks. Yeah.
- 1:07:14OPTI and I produce against each. Other we find each other but but
- 1:07:18so let let's throw out some numbers.
- 1:07:20So the average US household, the average cost for AU for a house
- 1:07:24in the US is like 4 or $500,000, right?
- 1:07:27What would so like, what would this repricing, what would it,
- 1:07:32what would it be to where housing was in the 70s where it
- 1:07:36took like I think a year or two of your full time salary to
- 1:07:40basically pay off a home. What are we looking at what,
- 1:07:43what type of of you know of, of, of discount and real estate are
- 1:07:48we looking at? If you want to, maybe you can
- 1:07:51bring up my article How Bitcoin is going to Make Housing
- 1:07:54Affordable and Bitcoin Magazine, because I'm showing a metric
- 1:07:58there that I'd like to refer to replacing.
- 1:08:01That's the one replacing the world's preferred store value.
- 1:08:04If you Scroll down a bit, there's a chart that basically
- 1:08:09talks about Nico what you just said, this one exactly.
- 1:08:12So that is home value change versus income change and as you
- 1:08:17can see. In in the 70s, what happened?
- 1:08:21And on the 15th of August 1971, Richard Nixon, the US President,
- 1:08:26announced that the US would decouple the dollar from gold.
- 1:08:30And since then we've been living under field standard with no
- 1:08:33monetary standard, right? So the amount of money has
- 1:08:37increased consistently and at that point in time, I think it
- 1:08:41took like 2 1/2 years for an individual in the US to finance
- 1:08:46the purchase of a house. And now it's around 8 1/2 years.
- 1:08:51So it takes 2 to three times as much, or 3 1/2 to four times as
- 1:08:55much to save for a house. This basically means that we are
- 1:08:59losing time, right? The system is stealing our time
- 1:09:03through inflation. We are being robbed of our time
- 1:09:05because. Money is what we use to save the
- 1:09:09fruits of our labor and we spend our time working.
- 1:09:12As money loses value, the time we use to work is basically
- 1:09:17being blown away, right? So to answer your question, what
- 1:09:21is the percentage of the monetary premium at real estate
- 1:09:24carries? It's very difficult.
- 1:09:26I read different numbers between 70 and 80%.
- 1:09:30So I read that between 70 and 80% of the value of housing.
- 1:09:36It is because it's being used as a store value, so that is quite
- 1:09:41significant. Incredible.
- 1:09:44Yeah. This is you know it's it's it's
- 1:09:47hopeful again it's there's something about Bitcoin and
- 1:09:50optimism right. You know, it gives me hope for
- 1:09:55for the future, for the maybe, you know, Opti and I are fucked.
- 1:09:58But you know, for the, for, you know, for the future generations
- 1:10:04where they don't have to go through a process where you know
- 1:10:07they're priced out of housing their price out of, you know, of
- 1:10:11of of potentially owning a home in the future and you know, but
- 1:10:16this is what Bitcoin is all about.
- 1:10:17And once again, like even in real estate, even with the
- 1:10:20housing crisis, Bitcoin once again provides this shining
- 1:10:24light of hope and optimism. Bitcoin truly does fix the fix
- 1:10:29these things. Now Leon, before we get to the
- 1:10:32meme review, do you have any closing thoughts or any words of
- 1:10:35encouragement for our audience? I do, I do.
- 1:10:39It's it's gonna tie in to what you said.
- 1:10:42Because something I really like about Bitcoin in the housing
- 1:10:48market, it really shows the transformative potential of
- 1:10:51Bitcoin and it also shows that changes happen with the
- 1:10:55individual. Because if the individual starts
- 1:10:58to save in Bitcoin, two things happen #1 for that individual
- 1:11:03real estate is going to become more affordable because Bitcoin
- 1:11:06is going to grow in purchasing power faster than the price of
- 1:11:10real estate. Plus, as more people do it,
- 1:11:14there's less money in real estate because people put it in
- 1:11:18Bitcoin, which also leads prices to drop.
- 1:11:21So going back into mythological individualism, what I talked
- 1:11:24about at the beginning in my master thesis, this example
- 1:11:27really shows that positive changes in the economy happen
- 1:11:31from the individual because the economy is made-up of billions
- 1:11:34of individuals and we don't need a centralized authority that
- 1:11:39imposes these changes. Because the Fiat system, which
- 1:11:44is a centralized system and a credit system, has actually
- 1:11:47caused the opposite. It has caused prices.
- 1:11:50Of housing to skyrocket because of inflation and because of the
- 1:11:54credit system. Gotcha.
- 1:11:55Beautiful. Beautiful.
- 1:11:56What a great guest, Leon. Absolutely killed it.
- 1:11:59Yeah, incredible guest, super honored and humbled to have you
- 1:12:02on the show today and really, really appreciate your takes and
- 1:12:06thank you. For having me?
- 1:12:07Yeah man. And one of those, one of it's
- 1:12:09one of those things again that Bitcoin fixes.
- 1:12:12Anyways, guys Opti, is it time for the meme review?
- 1:12:15Are we gonna release time? It is time to laugh a little
- 1:12:17bit. Hopefully.
- 1:12:18All right, let's hit the memes. The Daily Meme Review.
- 1:12:31All right, guys. Goodbye, Rex.
- 1:12:35They don't want us to say that here anymore.
- 1:12:36All right, all right. Boys and girls, Girls and boys.
- 1:12:42This is the meme review where you tag us on Twitter.
- 1:12:45Simply Bitcoin TV or for the time being, my personal account
- 1:12:48at Optimus Fields. Or drop them in our telegram
- 1:12:51group. T dot me slash simply Bitcoin
- 1:12:53TV. We have a lively group of people
- 1:12:55in our telegram group. They're dropping all kinds of
- 1:12:58memes, but I need the tweets guys.
- 1:12:59Give me the tweets so I can give people credit and bring them on
- 1:13:02the show. And we can continue to propagate
- 1:13:04the memes as we constantly tell you guys.
- 1:13:06We show you guys. We try to expose.
- 1:13:10No. What are you doing down here?
- 1:13:15It's an information war, guys. We are in the midst of an
- 1:13:18information war, and the powers that be are going to do their
- 1:13:21best to gaslight us. But tweets are our bullets and
- 1:13:24memes are our artillery. Make sure you are spreading the
- 1:13:28Bitcoin signal, propagating the memes, getting the calls of
- 1:13:31actions out there. Nico.
- 1:13:35OK. All right.
- 1:13:38And I'm losing my turn out thought.
- 1:13:39Anyway, anyway, this is a meme review.
- 1:13:40Well, you already know the deal. Oh, actually, actually, I I
- 1:13:43wanted to say get your meme review score ready, get ready to
- 1:13:47drop it in the chat. All right guys, so we don't have
- 1:13:49this delay. All right, first one is by
- 1:13:51Glocky, AKA at Clucky's under score on Twitter.
- 1:13:54And he goes hashtag banks verse hashtag Bitcoin with a fire
- 1:13:58emoji. And he goes.
- 1:14:00My bank notified me that a transaction was approved today.
- 1:14:06And then comparing it to Bitcoin.
- 1:14:08My Bitcoin wallet notified me that a transaction was confirmed
- 1:14:12today. And then he goes, The difference
- 1:14:14is subtle yet huge. Very powerful.
- 1:14:17It's a very. Powerful And then it was very
- 1:14:19fitting considering what we talked about today.
- 1:14:21Anyways, next one is by my cousin out there Culligan Fields
- 1:14:24AKA Tommy Boy, 21 male and he goes, you only get one shot.
- 1:14:28Do not miss your chance to blow. This opportunity comes once in a
- 1:14:31lifetime. Hashtag or actually accredited
- 1:14:34to M&M, Hashtag Bitcoin. And we got what?
- 1:14:37What is it? Is this, is this the hangover
- 1:14:41screenshot here? I don't remember.
- 1:14:43I think this is Zach. Yeah, Zach Galifianakis, I
- 1:14:47believe his last name is with with the math emojis and math,
- 1:14:50thinking about the math calculations.
- 1:14:52And it goes when a normie asks you what's so good about Bitcoin
- 1:14:55and you know this is your orange pill moment, y'all get one of
- 1:14:59these once in a lifetime. They don't come often, but when
- 1:15:02they are receptable to Bitcoin, this is when you open up the
- 1:15:06flood. Gates guys.
- 1:15:07OK, next one is by Bitcoin mindset AKA at 80 IQ mindset.
- 1:15:11And he goes, plebs are built different or bit corners are
- 1:15:14built different. Hashtag Bitcoin and we got stock
- 1:15:16market down 3% and you see the trader over here on Wall Street
- 1:15:19and he's crying and he lost his house and then we have bit
- 1:15:22corners down here. Bitcoin down 50% and it's the
- 1:15:25Leo from Django with the with you know his bourbon.
- 1:15:29He's smiling and his cheap sats. Thank you so much for the cheap
- 1:15:32Sats. Really appreciate it.
- 1:15:33This is the way. All right.
- 1:15:34Next one, I think Matthew J. Tagged me in, This one is on
- 1:15:38Swans Twitter and it goes. Bitcoin is a seed of hope in a
- 1:15:41society which lost vision years ago and perspective just
- 1:15:45recently. Shouts out to Kurt.
- 1:15:48And we got this AI tree with the Bitcoin logo and someone.
- 1:15:53What you doing down here? An old guy looking and pondering
- 1:15:55at the tree of life that is Bitcoin.
- 1:15:58Next one is a BTC therapist and he goes, hashtag, Bitcoin
- 1:16:00humbles you. And we we got a, you know, a
- 1:16:04picture here of wow, I'm blanking his name of the actor
- 1:16:07from American Psycho. And he goes when Bitcoin is
- 1:16:10$100,000 and everyone comes back to advice and it's me as the
- 1:16:13American Psycho, this is the price you deserve.
- 1:16:18Oh man, as much as we try to. Not say I told you so it's going
- 1:16:24to be. I told you so.
- 1:16:26OK, next one is by bit Keeney at beauty by Bitcoin and a classic
- 1:16:31Futurama. When Bitcoin dips, shut up and
- 1:16:33take my Fiat. It is too cheap.
- 1:16:35Keep going. All right.
- 1:16:36Next one. And last one is by Lena Siche
- 1:16:39and she just go. He's so cool.
- 1:16:41So we got a little hodler here and actually very fitting
- 1:16:44considering the. The Biden clip at the beginning
- 1:16:47of this, So this 211, the little hodler.
- 1:16:49And we have a money printer here and we have a ASIC Bitcoin
- 1:16:52miner. And the money printer goes, so
- 1:16:54you just mine the same amount of Bitcoin every 10 minutes.
- 1:16:57And the ASIC goes, yes. And then the money printer goes,
- 1:16:59what if someone asks you to mine more and the ASIC just goes, I
- 1:17:02don't. And then the money printer goes,
- 1:17:04wait, but won't they be upset? And the ASIC goes, yeah, that's
- 1:17:07not my problem. And the money printer goes, wow.
- 1:17:13Asic's so cool. He's so rad.
- 1:17:15He doesn't bend to social pressures.
- 1:17:18He just minds roughly every 10 minutes.
- 1:17:22This is the way. OK, drop your meme review score
- 1:17:24in the chat. We will cover ours live.
- 1:17:26My meme review score. Nico, I don't think I've done
- 1:17:28this before. Again, I am running out of
- 1:17:30things here to bring on the show, but it's my belt.
- 1:17:37My used belt, OK. It's looking in leather.
- 1:17:40It's very nice. It's comfortable.
- 1:17:43I do think I'm on the verge of needing another one.
- 1:17:47It's got holes in it to make it bigger and smaller.
- 1:17:51Yeah, I'm going to give it a dongle.
- 1:17:53Oh. You can't see it.
- 1:17:54I need dongle dongle. It's a red dongle.
- 1:17:57Wait, kind of dongle? It's HDMI?
- 1:18:00What's it called here, I cool. Here.
- 1:18:03I cool. All right.
- 1:18:05And it's AUSB. Hold on, Opti.
- 1:18:07Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm not done.
- 1:18:10You have to get into the specifics.
- 1:18:12It has a US micro USB port, a no micro SD port, a standard SD
- 1:18:21port, 2 USB, A port, 3 point OS and it has a USB C power port
- 1:18:28and the front and HDMI port. OK, nice.
- 1:18:34Yeah, yeah, yeah. You Chad's Chad's roasting me
- 1:18:39right now. All right.
- 1:18:40Leon. Leon, when would you give those
- 1:18:42memes? What I like the last one, The
- 1:18:46one that's the price you deserve.
- 1:18:49Yes, I like that one. It's the way.
- 1:18:52Yeah, because that's that's what's going to happen, right?
- 1:18:54Everybody who said that we are lunatics.
- 1:18:58They'll eventually come back at the worst time for themselves at
- 1:19:01least, and we'll just be smiling and chilling.
- 1:19:04What would you give the memes though?
- 1:19:06What score would you give the memes?
- 1:19:08Oh, what score would I give the memes?
- 1:19:09So the last one gets gets a 10 out of 10 from my perspective.
- 1:19:14OK, I like that one. Honest.
- 1:19:16I think it was the 2nd last. One, the last one with.
- 1:19:19Christian Bale, OK, that was my. Favorite.
- 1:19:21Well, Leon is a fan of American Psycho.
- 1:19:23Confirmed. Good score, good score, good
- 1:19:25score. All right everybody, before we
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- 1:20:33anyway. All right, Meme review.
- 1:20:35All right, let's go Bitcoin for Canadians.
- 1:20:38He gives the memes. My beer money going into sats
- 1:20:42instead of it, pissing away instead of pissing it away.
- 1:20:47Bitcoin for Canadians gets it. Yeah, he He's based all right.
- 1:20:50Elaine. Elaine always has the best
- 1:20:52scores. Bitcoin is a house for your
- 1:20:54souls, protecting you from financial trolls.
- 1:20:57It comforts you with walls and doors against all the bankers
- 1:21:00and government. Chrissy Lagarde Crime Let's.
- 1:21:05Go Elaine, going in hot Keefe Boy.
- 1:21:07I give the memes the 5 minutes it took to submit my comments to
- 1:21:10Fincent. Wait, this is.
- 1:21:13This is not necessarily a score, but I want to read it anyway.
- 1:21:16Cedor, these memes filled me with as much hope as Opti has
- 1:21:21for finally being able to move out of Christine Lagarde's
- 1:21:24closet on a Bitcoin standard. Justin gives the memes confirmed
- 1:21:31greater than approved. I agree.
- 1:21:33I agree. Based Justin is based Matthew
- 1:21:37Jay. It's going up forever, Laura.
- 1:21:39It's going up forever, Laura. Laura, it's going up forever.
- 1:21:41Wait, wait, wait. It's going up forever, Laura.
- 1:21:43It's going up forever, Laura. XX memes score a 12 ounce bottle
- 1:21:48of coke was tell at $0.10 in 1972.
- 1:21:52Inflation is not new. Just saying a lot of rhymes
- 1:21:55today, bro. I like it.
- 1:21:56I like it. Matt Fry.
- 1:21:59I rate the memes. An absolutely perfect business
- 1:22:02card. Oh, I get that reference.
- 1:22:06Old man's old man's BTC. Teaching how to become self
- 1:22:11sovereign. That's his memes.
- 1:22:12I'll teach you guys how to roll dice soon.
- 1:22:14I I just. I've been.
- 1:22:16I hear you, bro. Okay meme score Mcmansion
- 1:22:22selling for one million Sat Boomer soon to be wrecked.
- 1:22:25In the not too distant future. And that is the correct answer.
- 1:22:31All right, everybody. Thank you so much for tuning
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- 1:23:07You know, it really, really does help.
- 1:23:09Anyways, I do want to thank our special guest today, Leon
- 1:23:13Incredible Workman. Very, very impressive.
- 1:23:16Thank you so much for contribute for your work and contributing
- 1:23:19to the Bitcoin ecosystem because it's it's awesome.
- 1:23:23I think I saw your work and I reached out to you directly and
- 1:23:25said hey man, I would love to have you on the show.
- 1:23:27I would love to have you back on in a couple months to talk about
- 1:23:30this specific topic. Yeah, I'd be happy to.
- 1:23:34Thank you for inviting me. Thank you also for the work that
- 1:23:36you doing and all the listeners. This is, as you call it, the
- 1:23:40revolution that happens from the individual bottom up.
- 1:23:43So it's basically how we live our life, you know, Bitcoin,
- 1:23:46it's, it's also a way of life if you think about it.
- 1:23:49So I appreciate you taking the time, providing this content and
- 1:23:52making me part of your show and I'd be happy to be part of it
- 1:23:55again. Thank you.
- 1:23:56Thank you Leon. Really, really appreciate it.
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