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Patriots Unfiltered 9/11: Final Dolphins Preview, Injury/Practice Updates, NFL Week 2 Picks · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: a vegetal Podcas Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Talking about the
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  Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins and why I think this is a guaranteed
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  Speaker 1: win for the new Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: Do you pound the table for that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna pound the table sure.
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  Speaker 3: Charles Woods is the cornerback that was claimed off.
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  Speaker 2: Of waivers right after Chucky Trees.
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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 3: Chucky Trees can. I have way too much time on
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  Speaker 3: I don't like them.
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  Speaker 1: I hate it.
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  Speaker 3: But that's you know, I'm old.
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  Speaker 1: This whole thing about Oh Josh is you know it
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  Speaker 1: demands an accurate quarterback. We got to stop that. Every
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  Speaker 1: offense demands accuracy. My goodness.
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  Speaker 2: Again, I know I'm being a whiny Patriots fan right now.
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  Speaker 4: It's just like, I don't want to lose the guys
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  Speaker 4: they used to be on our team.
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium in our final day to talk about
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  Speaker 1: this big matchup coming up down in Miami, Patriots playing
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  Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Both teams zero to one. Both teams, well,
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  Speaker 1: I would say Miami really had a dout of a game,
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  Speaker 1: but both teams, you know, very disappointed in the end
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  Speaker 1: result and the way the end result came about. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't say that both teams are desperate.
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  Speaker 1: I would you.
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  Speaker 5: Would, Oh really Week two, Yeah really, Yeah, we'll get it.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get into a y. I think I don't think
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  Speaker 3: there's much of an argument that Miami is not desperate.
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  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, the ship is sinking, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Well it's Alex, it's Deuce, it's me, it's Paul,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's Evan, it's Alex and Matt in the back
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  Speaker 1: pushing the buttons. Uh So let's get let's get into it.
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  Speaker 1: What news do we have since we signed off yesterday
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  Speaker 1: injury report and yeah, that's not good. Let's go over that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so Christian Gonzalez, Morgan Moses, Harold Landry Keon White
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  Speaker 5: all sitting out practice yesterday foot injuries for the two veterans.
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  Speaker 5: But it's Wednesday. They're they're veteran players. I'm not like
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  Speaker 5: super concerned about those two. But Gonzalez is still not
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  Speaker 5: practicing but the hamstring and uh, we might have seen
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  Speaker 5: him on the lower field yesterday, might have not, but
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  Speaker 5: still not not out there with the team. So that's disappointing,
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  Speaker 5: I suppose, I mean it's disappointing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. We saw Morgan Moses in the
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  Speaker 2: locker room as we walked in yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: I saw Landry as well, Like yeah, and both.
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  Speaker 2: Those guys were managed throughout the summer. So I'm optimistic
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  Speaker 2: that both of them will be able to play. That
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  Speaker 2: those are important guys.
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  Speaker 3: I would agree that I'm optimistic that they'll play. But
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  Speaker 3: I was a little taken aback when the report actually
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  Speaker 3: came out. I had seen everybody, you know it, EVD
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  Speaker 3: had mentioned that those guys weren't out there I kind
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  Speaker 3: of thought like, oh, you know, veterans, veteran day off
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  Speaker 3: kind of thing. And then to see them both with
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  Speaker 3: with actual injuries, I was like, oh, that's not good. Now.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with both Mike and Evan. I feel like
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  Speaker 3: they'll play, but they're going to be playing with something.
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  Speaker 3: And again not on how you know how I always say,
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  Speaker 3: you know NFL players sneaky hard to make it through
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  Speaker 3: the season with an injury already and sort of stay healthy.
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  Speaker 3: It's when you opened the season with an injury that's.
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  Speaker 1: That's your biasn't until late November.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was definitely helping that it was going to
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  Speaker 5: be a veteran rest and I came out of the
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  Speaker 5: practice field yesterday I was like, oh, like two veteran guys.
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  Speaker 5: They've been managing all summer, like probably just taking it
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  Speaker 5: easy on a Wednesday, but they did have injuries. Then
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  Speaker 5: Kishon Booty with that shoulder was limited in practice. I think,
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  Speaker 5: uh was Marcus Jones was on there too, right, no misremembering.
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  Speaker 3: Christian elis Ma Uh that was with a shoulder, map
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  Speaker 3: with a neck uh in my and my boy Chucky Trees,
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  Speaker 3: Chucky Trees, Yeah, full participation.
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  Speaker 1: Charles Wood.
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  Speaker 2: That just came to me yesterday. We always called Robert
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  Speaker 2: Woods Bobby Bobby Tree, and then I didn't make Bobby
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  Speaker 2: Trees up. That's what they told then. Yes, we were
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  Speaker 2: jokingly just calling him chucky. And then as you were
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  Speaker 2: talking about him like he's a Woods, he could be
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  Speaker 2: a Trees too, So that was.
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  Speaker 5: Like, yeah, So Mapoo dealt with this neck injury last year.
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  Speaker 5: Seems like that's just something that he's going to have
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  Speaker 5: to manage pain.
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  Speaker 3: And then I hadn't thought about that.
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  Speaker 5: So it's interesting to see him back on there with
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  Speaker 5: a neck.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of guys for the Dolphins, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: not practicing. It's a train wreck down there that six
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  Speaker 3: different guys didn't practice.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't want to say it, go ahead and say it, well,
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  Speaker 2: Storm Duck.
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  Speaker 3: One of those not practicing was Storm Duck.
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  Speaker 5: I'm pretty didn't know what I think he went to Oregon?
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  Speaker 1: Dude?
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  Speaker 4: Did he really?
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  Speaker 1: Did he go to Oregon?
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  Speaker 4: To go to Oregon's so funny.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like a made up Madden player, like you know,
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  Speaker 2: creating your own player. He's six foot six punds and
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  Speaker 2: was a four three forty storm don Now he didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Go to the owner of the Miami Dolphins, get tagged
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  Speaker 1: for or at least accused of offering Floras something for
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  Speaker 1: tanking games.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, Flora's accused him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Flores accused him of that.
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  Speaker 2: You think we might be in that territory again. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: we get catch a little break.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Really, I don't know, or what is this? Something talk
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  Speaker 3: about talking.
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  Speaker 1: About this before the show yesterday, and you were talking
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  Speaker 1: about how Miami's been decimated by injuries, particularly in the secondary,
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  Speaker 1: and I was trying to remember, didn't they let some
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  Speaker 1: guys leave in the off season?
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  Speaker 3: And I heard it, but you're talking like free agents?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so that they chose not to Well, they
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  Speaker 3: traded jail In Ramsey, right, but they make a fifth
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  Speaker 3: Patrick back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I thought they lost two notable guys in
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  Speaker 1: their secondary they gotten.
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  Speaker 3: By free agency. Maybe I'm not talking I'm talking about
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  Speaker 3: letting guys. God like everybody loses free agents. Oh, Yvon
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  Speaker 3: Holland right, who had the worst grade evidently in history
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  Speaker 3: of football in Week one, by the way.
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  Speaker 5: And then Ramsey gone offensively, Tron Armstead retired, yeah, and
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  Speaker 5: then John who they traded John Why Smith, which I
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  Speaker 5: still don't really fully understand why they did that, because
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  Speaker 5: he was a big time weapon for them last year.
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  Speaker 3: And that's another one of those like you in one
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  Speaker 3: hand you say, well, we can let Jonah Smith go,
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  Speaker 3: we don't want to sign them, and then you take
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  Speaker 3: Darren Waller off the scrap heap of retirement and say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: that's going to be the replacement. And oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: big surprise, he couldn't play Week one.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's what I'm thinking about, Like they'd let guys
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  Speaker 1: go and then they brought guys to replace that clearly
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  Speaker 1: weren't as good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the John new one was always interesting to me
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  Speaker 5: because he was like the perfect compliment to Hill and waddle,
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  Speaker 5: like a tight end that you know that can kind
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  Speaker 5: of do the underneath over the middle stuff and catch
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  Speaker 5: and run with the football in that offense. And he
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  Speaker 5: had a great year for them last year, and he
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  Speaker 5: traded them to Pittsburgh and I was like, what.
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  Speaker 2: Do you He just can't seem to find a home,
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  Speaker 2: Like he comes here, it doesn't really work end laying
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  Speaker 2: out right, and then hey, I finally it's clicking for me.
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  Speaker 2: They're yeah, we're gonna trade it.
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  Speaker 5: He's back with Arthur Smith now he'll be fun this boy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, I would say that the situation in
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  Speaker 1: Miami is worse than here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll say they're more desperate than for a win. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they've been hoaching implications too.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you can make the excuse for the Patriots
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  Speaker 2: that they're all new coaches and they're rebuilding, but just
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  Speaker 2: McDaniels and iteration of the of the Dolphins, this is
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  Speaker 2: starting to hit some bumps and iryk Kill hasn't had
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  Speaker 2: a thirty yard pass and over a year. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, is it are they still going to be
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  Speaker 2: able to resuscitate it or is it just gone bland?
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  Speaker 2: And can they recapture that magic that we've seen plenty
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  Speaker 2: of times against the Patriots. But you know, I think
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the people outside around the league have
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  Speaker 2: a much different view of the Dolphins than I do
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  Speaker 2: because they've seen the Dolphins like not be able to
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  Speaker 2: beat the good teams, and I've only know firsthand, just
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  Speaker 2: watched them have their way with the Patriots and you know,
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  Speaker 2: the last performance we had to add.
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  Speaker 3: But that's really the same.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you have right, Well, like I'm just like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: he's awesome, and then you watch these games against the
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  Speaker 2: bad teams, correct, and you're like they can't do anything,
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  Speaker 2: or the good team I'm sorry, you know, and and
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  Speaker 2: you see the different.
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  Speaker 3: I think that that's one of the national narratives that
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  Speaker 3: is dead on. They can't win in cold weather on
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  Speaker 3: the road, and they can't they can't be.
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  Speaker 5: Their record like teams that would go on to be
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  Speaker 5: over five hundred or make the playoffs or something like
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  Speaker 5: that under McDaniel is bad. Is bad, is bad. But
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  Speaker 5: they when you turn on their film, they still are fast.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they still.
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  Speaker 5: Got a ton of team speed on offense, especially you
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  Speaker 5: know that three headed monster hill waddle a chain. Those
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  Speaker 5: guys are as explosive as anybody in the NFL. And
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  Speaker 5: I still felt that way watching them last week, even
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  Speaker 5: though they didn't score any points, Like you still see
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  Speaker 5: those three dudes flying around on offense and if you're
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  Speaker 5: not careful, like they't come out and bite you.
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  Speaker 1: Aside from last week, would you say the Patriots on
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  Speaker 1: paper are better suited to deal with that speed this.
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  Speaker 2: Year with Al Gonzales No, I mean yeah, no John.
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  Speaker 6: Jones either, John Jones you saw, I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 6: know how he would have fared this year. He's a
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  Speaker 6: lot older than he used to be able to. You're right,
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  Speaker 6: but John Jones was really fast to throw on hill
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  Speaker 6: and kind of contain him for years.
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  Speaker 4: So at least we yea he.
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  Speaker 5: Was one of the best guys in the league at
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  Speaker 5: covering hill. They used to say track guys, you know,
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  Speaker 5: put the track guys on the track guys. That was
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  Speaker 5: Jonathan Jones. But I really feel like with Tua though,
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  Speaker 5: it's it's the middle of the field and it's attacking
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  Speaker 5: the linebackers in coverage, Like that's how we always dices
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  Speaker 5: the Patriots up is his inbreakers and the crossers over
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  Speaker 5: the middle, and it's Jelani Tavai and Jawan Bentley trying
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  Speaker 5: to cover in space.
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  Speaker 1: In that respect, Are they better suited?
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  Speaker 3: I would like.
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  Speaker 5: I would like to think so. But to Paul's point, like,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think those linebackers last week. Yeah, played very
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  Speaker 5: well last week, so we'll see. But in theory, that's
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  Speaker 5: the idea, like that's the way that they've built the
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  Speaker 5: defense and what's supposed to happen if this goes right
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  Speaker 5: for Mike Rable, But it didn't necessarily look that way
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  Speaker 5: last week.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of the biggest like head scratches. I have
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  Speaker 2: not to bring Bill Belicheck up, But how did he
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  Speaker 2: never solve to like just a guy that was known
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  Speaker 2: early in the going like he's oh he's confounded peyton man,
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  Speaker 2: but at least like I mean, I could say that,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe the least thing you'd give him is that
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  Speaker 2: he's a good defensive coordinator and then he would understand
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  Speaker 2: how to shut a guy down. And if he faced him,
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  Speaker 2: I guess it would be six times that he didn't
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  Speaker 2: have any answer to it.
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  Speaker 3: Was gonna be. And this is a different kind of
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  Speaker 3: an argument, but I think he could go down as
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  Speaker 3: one of the most sort of enigmatic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, polarizing.
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  Speaker 3: Polarizing is probably not the right word, but confusing, well,
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  Speaker 3: just I don't know miss misunderstood talents Like is he good?
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  Speaker 3: Is he not good? Is it a product or the
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  Speaker 3: speed in the system? Because you're right, you see what
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  Speaker 3: he does. You see how he throws with anticipation. He
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  Speaker 3: kind of doesn't doesn't have a big league arm. It
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  Speaker 3: looks like you could probably get a few picks every
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  Speaker 3: once in a while. But yet he has a lot
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  Speaker 3: of success and like you said, like Belichick is obviously
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  Speaker 3: a tremendous defensive mind, and he never really seemed to
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  Speaker 3: come up with the real And you know, I'm neutral.
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  Speaker 1: I've compared to UH in the past, to Drew Brees.
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  Speaker 1: I see a lot of similarities in their game. Do
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  Speaker 1: you agree.
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  Speaker 3: I think they both throw with a you're not the
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  Speaker 3: same height a lot better. I understand why every.
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  Speaker 1: Everything seems similar. But so the why Breese had so
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  Speaker 1: much more success than Tua, Like why is that? Like
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  Speaker 1: I I see their games is very similar. Couldn't win
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  Speaker 1: the big ones with no he won one big one inside.
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  Speaker 5: But they when they when Tua was coming out of college,
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  Speaker 5: I would say more post hip injury than pre hip injury.
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  Speaker 5: But when he was coming out of college, like the
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  Speaker 5: ceiling comp was Drew Brees. For a lot of people
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  Speaker 5: like lefty Drew Brees.
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  Speaker 3: But that was what he was going to be if
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  Speaker 3: he was I could see what your comp is coming from.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, there's.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of lefty Drew Brees comps in college. But
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  Speaker 5: I think a big reason for it. And I know
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  Speaker 5: Drew Brees had some injuries too, but his out of
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  Speaker 5: structure playmaking went out the window when that hip injury
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  Speaker 5: happened in college and it turned him in. He's a
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  Speaker 5: great instructure quarterback, but he doesn't have the mobility or
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  Speaker 5: the arm talent anymore to create out of struggle.
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  Speaker 1: The injuries well for.
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  Speaker 3: A career changing injury.
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  Speaker 5: Their rotator cuff injury was bad. But I just think
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  Speaker 5: that that's early Alabama to a was a dual threat
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  Speaker 5: quarterback and he and.
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  Speaker 3: He could run. Yeah Alabama.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he's incredibly talented. That's why everybody thought he
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  Speaker 5: was going to go number one overall in that draft
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  Speaker 5: before he got hurt. When he injured the hip, he
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  Speaker 5: his mobility went out the door a little bit. So
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  Speaker 5: he's great in structure though. I mean, he's really good
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  Speaker 5: running this offense. He really understands all the motions and
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  Speaker 5: the deception that they're trying to do. He's great with
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  Speaker 5: play faking. He's grows with anticipation, like Paul said, probably
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  Speaker 5: better than any quarterback in the league. But if you
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  Speaker 5: can get him off the spot, off the first read,
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  Speaker 5: off the middle of the field and just kind of
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  Speaker 5: make him make plays, then you have a chance against him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know why the Patriots are never able to
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  Speaker 5: do it or haven't been able to do it. I
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  Speaker 5: probably go back to team speed, Like I just think
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  Speaker 5: they've been so much faster than the Patriots on offense
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  Speaker 5: and that's been a big problem.
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  Speaker 1: But also the Patriots have made some epic mistakes down
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  Speaker 1: there in games, you know, fumbling near the goal line,
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  Speaker 1: the gronk, you know, the famous.
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  Speaker 5: Free to it.
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  Speaker 3: But none of that had anything to do with too. No.
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  Speaker 1: But if you look at the history of the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: in Miami, it's been some really odd games.
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  Speaker 3: But the games against TUA have been really conventional games
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  Speaker 3: that Miami has just been the better team.
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  Speaker 2: The last one, the last.
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  Speaker 3: I mean there was there was some one. There was
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  Speaker 3: one where like the opener that year Mac Jones, I
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  Speaker 3: think twenty to seven, I want to say, yep, it
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  Speaker 3: was like there was just where it was a strip
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  Speaker 3: sack on the on the goal line, which might be,
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  Speaker 3: but like that was just Miami was better.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, like from the first play of the game on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: it was just like the game last year is going
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  Speaker 6: to go yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And that's I'm kind of with Mike. You just watched
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  Speaker 3: the way that they play, and I have tons of
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  Speaker 3: respect for the ability of Wattle and Tyreek Hill. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm not telling you it should be easy to just
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  Speaker 3: shut those guys down, but like it's it's fourth and
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  Speaker 3: six and they're going to go for it in like
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  Speaker 3: the forty yard line, and not only you allowed Wattle
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  Speaker 3: to catch the pass, but he's gone, yeah, like how
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  Speaker 3: do you let that happen? You know? And it just
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  Speaker 3: would scratch, you know, like you said, it's a head scratcher,
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  Speaker 3: because it doesn't seem like it should be that hard
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  Speaker 3: to control him. Well, everybody haven't really been able to.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody says, you know, if you can pressure Tua. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's the problem with some teams and including us, is
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: that you tend to like focus so much on that
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: that if you don't get home, you get burned.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So I'll give you one thing, Like you
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: you made the comment like five minutes ago about like
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: are they better suited today to do this? That might
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: be an area that they are different. And Bill's philosophy
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: and certainly Mayo last year was a little bit more
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: aligned the way that they always played. They didn't really
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: want to get after the passer, right, they're containing him
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: in the pocket. They're not being mofully aggressive after Tua.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Based on one week, and what we saw all summer,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: this team might be you know, the defense might be
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: set up a little bit differently. Maybe they will get
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: a little bit more aggressive in getting after Tua.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: Yes, especially you know Williams and Barmore, which I think
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: is really where because you don't have time to get
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: the edge pressure there, Like his release is too quick
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: and he's not going to let you run around the
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: arc and have Harold Blandry and calevon Chase on ruin
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: this game. For him, it's going to have to be
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: the guys up the middle that get that immediate interior push.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: And that's exactly what happened on the pick last week,
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: is that there was a push up the middle, probably
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: to Forest Buckner, you know, pushing up the middle and
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: kind of similar to Drake's pick where he couldn't fully
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: step into the throw and he sailed it and he
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: airmailed the throw over the receiver's head. Those are the
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: types of things that you see in the past where
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: teams have interior pressure up the middle quickly and they
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: can get him to throw off his back foot, then
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: you might have some success.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which wasn't a big part of the Patriots old
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: defense when you had interior, two gappers and you know,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: build the wall and just something that I always thought
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: was a big part of it. And you guys mentioned
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: a little bit, but like you know, Splaine the speed.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I think Reese wrote a little bit about Splain feeling
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: like not knowing Chip Kelly's offense last week hurt him
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: because he's kind of a film steady guy and needs
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: to know what's coming. And I think Reese was kind
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: of applying that this is an offense that he at
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: least understands better and he'll maybe have a little bit
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: better of a beat on. But to your point, Paul,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: like that play on Wadle, I mean the middle of
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: the field. Evan's been talking plenty about it. You're gonna
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: need someplace from Splain, especially coverage too.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: So a good eighteen minutes for Freddy though you know
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: he's got the Tua breeze camp and then he's like
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: so better suited defensively with their style, get in.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: A great preview is really good Freddy.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, you guys did well in the picks. Someone
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: who was weak one for one, that's weird.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: That's weird, Paul. One more point, though it.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Was exceptionally good for one specific person, Like I'll get
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: to that.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Later weather game against Josh Allen, but that other one
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, or Remondre, it wasn't you
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the big final drive, like they were at least able
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: to beat Josh Allen a couple of times, Like yeah,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I know that the win game was bizarre, but you
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: know they've gotten cond of just it's one of those
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: days it happens, but just doesn't seem to happen with it.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Was two years ago, right, they had like the conventional
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: win he where Mac Jones is only real last second.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: That's why, Like if you see Tyreek have like a
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: thirty plus yard catch in this game, then you're like,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: oh boy, not today, not today please.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: So obviously last week, one of the big things coming
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: out of that game was giving up those big plays,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: and so I'm sure there's gonna be an emphasis this
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: year to not do that. But when that becomes the focus,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: does it make you vulnerable elsewhere?
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I Mean, my instinct would be you don't have to
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: be like your hope would be attacked the right side
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: of their line. That's going to be backups. And you
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: paid Williams. You paid Christian Barmore, like haven't pointed out
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: these are this is the time to shine, Like this
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: is where you need those guys to rush for and
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: have the personnel available on the back end with seven
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: guys to play with coverage a little bit and clog
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: up the middle and you know, don't let those guys
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: even when they're making those catches on those slants, like
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Paul pointed out with that bottle one, we've seen that
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: a couple of times where it's gone. So you got
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: to tackle too, even when they make those passes. But ideal,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I think you're getting pressure with four and you're dominating
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: those interior guys, getting right in his lap and you know,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: make make him have to force it a little bit.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Then mistakes come.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: I do worry a little bit about their run game
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: with in Gold. Their fullbacks really good player, were Able
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: talked about him yesterday and a Chen is a really
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: good runner too, and they like to go heavy and
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: then they kind of do what you give them. If
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: you run nickel, then they're gonna run it at you.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: If you're in base, then they're gonna throw it on you.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: And that's where you can have issues because you get
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: those linebackers in coverage against the speed and it's mismatches
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: all over the field. So how they match twenty one
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: personnel or you know, two back formations is going to
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: be big in this game because I think Miami is
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: going to probably put heavy personnel on the field and
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: then hope the Patriots match that with base and then
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: you get the speed of the Patriots off the field.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Maybe they just kind of swapped Tonga in as the
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: second defensive tackle and you know, maybe have a little
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: bit more of a rotation so here now when.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: They ran some like five man beare fronts on Sunday,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: and like maybe they'll do some of that or the
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: guard guard center guard all covered. You know, I think
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: that that's something that they could do. It's outside zone
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: run scheme. So if you can hold up the center
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: and you hold up you know, the backside guard there
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: from the reach block, then you can usually try to
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: get some penetration on that scheme. But I think Tonga
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: should just play more in general, Like I thought he
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: was really good in the game last week, been great
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: all summer. I think he needs to play more. Maybe
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: they're worried about at his size, like conditioning and stuff.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Like that. But it's that's the chess match. If they
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: go twenty one and they put big formations out there,
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: they're gonna throw out of that if you're in base.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: But can you stop the run out of nickel like that,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: that's gonna be the real problem.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I remember stopping the run in sub run defense was
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: like a huge problem, like I don't know, like twenty eleven,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: twenty twelve. I remember it was like that was the
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: talking point that year. It was a huge problem for
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: them last I couldn't stop the run out out of
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: sub packaging.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a huge problem for them last year. And
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: remember games like the forty nine Ers game, Shanahan just
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: put two tight ends and you just check on the
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: field and threw out of heavy groupings and they didn't
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: have the coverage ability out of base.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Who's all right? Eight five five pass five hundred is
• 22:09
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• 22:13
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have to do picks the end of the show,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: so we do have to hurry. So let's give some
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: time for our listeners to weigh in on whatever they
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: want to weigh in on. Jacob's in Illinois, Hey, Jacob, Jacob.
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: Hey, yep, an you guys diver good?
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, Eldred, Okay, what's going on? Jacob?
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: All right, Filer Trucker?
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: Is that any better?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Okay? Go ahead here, we got you, all right.
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: So first off, I'm gonna give my way in on
• 22:51
  Speaker 9: picks for Miami. I'm gonna say pass by for twenty
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: four to twenty and I'm really hoping that uh the
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: backs up my talk because I met a Dolphins stand
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: out a truck stop yesterday and uh, I really I talked.
• 23:08
  Speaker 9: I talked a big games, So please please don't make
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: me look the fool.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Right, what are you hauling?
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Jacob?
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: I'm currently empty at the moment.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: What was it?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Or you're empty? Okay? All right?
• 23:23
  Speaker 10: Yes, but.
• 23:29
  Speaker 11: In better better news.
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: At eleven o'clock last night, I became an uncle for
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: the first time.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Oh congratulations, thank you.
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: But I now have a question for the panel relating
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: to this. So neither of her parents care about football
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: at all. I am obviously the Patriots span of the family.
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: But my brother, my other brother, is a it's a
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: Green Bay Packer fan. Her grandparents are Bears fan. So
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: my question to you is, how do I gently nudge
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: my new niece is the path of righteousness.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, who.
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: I require your aid?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: And well I would I would get the little bear
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: with the Patriots jersey on, get the Patriots onesie.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Get a rivalry windbreaker. Yeah, I think they.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Is it a baby girl or a boy? You said.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: The girl, right?
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: The girl I would get. I mean maybe in a
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: couple of months when she's a little older. The cute
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: little cheerleading outfit for babies that they have in the
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: pro shop. Little girls love that, So get her one
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: of those for sure, and just make the most of
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: your quality time.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and just as she gets older, make sure that
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: you're over there on Sundays so that you know, hopefully
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: if the Patriots are on TV, make sure she's sitting
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: on your knee watching and you can explain things to her,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: and you know, just make the case. Make the case.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to work hard because you got you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Chicago Bear fans, you got Packer fans. You're gonna have
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: to compete, and they're a lot closer. Yeah.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Talk a lot of crap about Jordan Love and Kayleb Williams.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean I remember when my
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: son was a little kid. He saw Terrell Davis on
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Sesame Street and he became a Broncos fan.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: It was just that easy, was it because of your
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Randy grat No, No.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: He just he just saw Terrell Davis on Sesame Street
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: and he became a Broncos fan. So look for those opportunities.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: We need a children's show.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I just wasn't choice. I wasn't given
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: the choice. You're can grow up in this household.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: You're gonna like right, there was no gentle note, Thanks.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: Patriots red socks, and if you don't, then go go
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: someplace else.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I became an uncle for the second time today, not today, today,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: twenty five years ago. I was gonna.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Say anniversary of your own.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so, but he said, like eleven o'clock last night,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: so that would still technically be the tenth Yeah today.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Cool to be an uncle before you're a dad. That
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: wasn't I just it.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Is cool, you know what? And I took advantage of it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 12: Oh.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: I riled them up and see a nephew. I would
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: go over Thursday nights were like that was Paul time.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah nine two oh, watch a little nine oh
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: two one oh, it's my brother and my sister in law,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: and I get the kids all riled up.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Right, I'll see you guys later. I leave maybe wide awake.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: That was That was my dad too. My my cousin's
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: on that side of family. A bunch of boys. There's
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: like four boys and my dad. They're all older than me.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: My dad would go over and brought like a whole
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: boxing set and he just in boxing contest between all
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: the cousins and then fight club and then leave.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: You know, it's a it's a good time. And you'd
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: also get to like a little snapshot of that world,
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: and then it kind of am I ready for this
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: like to be me? And I just like watch my sister.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I'm like, nope, I know I'm not. There was the one,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: you know, Tyler, the one that was here for training camp.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: He's the one. Today's birthday had Tyler.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: That one Boston fan writes in is there more pressure
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: now for Drake made to win this Dolphins game than
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: there was for him to win that Raiders game?
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I think there's a little more pressure on here. I
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: think that all you've heard this week is how don't
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: lose to this team, don't lose to this Miami team,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: they're in disarray, they've they've packed it in, they're not
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: you know, Fred just said that they're tanking. Don't lose
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: to this. I think that puts all that up. I
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: think that puts a lot of pressure on the Patriots.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: And I think that there you asked about the desperate factor.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: I think you need to you need to win a
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: game where all of a sudden, everybody's expecting you to win.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I think that makes you you a little bit desperate.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Patriots are underdogs, though they are so we we expected
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: or I expected, but Vegas doesn't.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: No, I don't expect them to win.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Although what is it one and a hay one and
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: a half? Really they're.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Can we really just just stop with that at some point.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I put it in the in the book, No, but
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: you get three.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: It's more like two and a half these days, two
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: and a half, even when it's conversation, even when it's
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: every Thursday.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, if Miami was really the favorite.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: It were four, and that's yeah. I think there's a
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: lot of people like I get the So.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: The Raiders were really the favorite last week?
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Of course, of course there's.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: A lot of people that are overlooking this Dolphins team
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: because they think the house is on fire.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why there's some pressure on the but that's
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: literally the only reason why people are are feeling that
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: way is because they think that they're in disarray.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: It's not the talent, like, it's not it's not the
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: two teams on the field. It's right, we're assuming that
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: McDaniel with you.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I totally totally understand what you're talking about. But I
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: think if you listen to everybody around here, don't don't
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: lose this game.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: That's why it's gonna be miserable next week if they
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: do lose.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Don't lose this game.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: If they lose this game, and then but you know,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: the a little bit of the counter will be like, hey,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: it's a really hard place to play. The Dolphins got
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: back on track, and you know, expecting Drake may and
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: what is the twelfth start of his career to go
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: down to Miami and beat any you know, beat any
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Dolphins team isn't as a tough ask.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I think, well, at the same time, he's got to
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: do it one eventually, do and not just Miami, like
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: he has to win some games. He started twelve games
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: and he's won one. You know, at some point we
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: have to see the ball go through the hoop a
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: couple times for them.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Yeh, Stacey and Indiana. Miami obviously loves to use motion
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: to create leverage and force defenses to declare coverage ball Knower,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: do you think the Patriot should try to counter that
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: by disguising late or should they just stick to the script,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: so to speak, and stay disciplined to avoid getting burned
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: by hill waddle, et cetera.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, there's there's two different schools
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: of thought with motion, like you either travel with the
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: motion or you play you play zone to both sides
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: and you just kind of stay home and catch the
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: motion on the other side of the formation. There are
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: things that you can do, like you can travel with
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: the motion and then actually fall out into zone and
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: maybe disguise it that way and they think it's man.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: But with Miami, I think that's hard because their motion
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: isn't motion to just I wouldn't really call it motion
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: to decipher coverage. They're motioning to get their skill players
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: head starts into the play, which is a little bit
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: differ than shifting. When you're shifting to as a coverage
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: indicator to the quarterback. So they're motioning and they use
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: what's called cheat motion. They actually get flagged for it
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: sometimes where Hill is actually kind of going up the
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: field already when the ball is snapped, so they're just
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: trying to get him out of the gate and give
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: him a head start. So if you disguise and then
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: you say, okay, well when they motion, we're actually going
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: to fall out of it and it's not going to
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: be man to man coverage. You know, I do think
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: that's difficult to do, so I would probably stick to
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: your sides and just catch the motion and not travel
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: with it. But I'm interested to see what they do.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike and the OC would love to get the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Panels picks on my over under props. May rushing touchdowns,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: A Hey, I'm.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: Gonna go over it.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Go over on them.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: They're going to try to incorporate him more in that way.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, Diggs receptions for and A hey, I'll take the
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: over on that. Okay. Trevion rushing touchdowns, A hey, under
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: under tough one he catches one. Hunter Henry receptions four
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: and A hey, we'll take the over on that. And
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: two interceptions one and a hey under under. He says,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I'm taking the over on all of them. Patriots finally
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: win in Miami in a close one twenty four to
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: twenty one.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: If all of those things go over in the game
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: is close, something something somewhere else that's went terribly wrong.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Because I think we got like three Patriots touchdowns a
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: quiet I accounted for, and at.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Least you have two two touchdowns, You have two receivers
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: getting at least five catches, and you have the other
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: quarterback throwing at least two interceptions, and you only win
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: the game by a field goal. Yeah, something else went
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: terribly wrong somewhere.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Old school rights in. We spent all off season hearing
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: about arm length. From the one game sample, Will Campbell
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: looks like he can play. Paul is right, as you
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: don't know until you see a player in a game,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: looking forward to watching how he develops in future games.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: Some of us knew.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: I didn't see that, but whatever.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: So Mark writes in in mac Jones's second Year, my
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: memory states that his first throw of the first game,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: or at least very early, he threw an out which
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: took an absolute age to get there. It was that
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: moment that made me go, not good enough, we need
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: someone else. No, May isn't there, but the May high
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: throws that sale May Spray's credit dues really worry me.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Missing high will consistently lead to turnover worthy plays. Do
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: you think that will come under control by mid season?
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Hope? So, I should.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: It's just interesting to me that it was better last year.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: He really had much better accuracy for most of last year.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: And I do wonder if by halfway through the season,
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: when the comfort level in the system comes along, and
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: hopefully he feels more comfortable within the offense, that his
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: mechanics will get back to a better place like they
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: were last year. But I would remember that Mac Jones
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: picked trap corner. Try to beat the trap corner with
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: the ball, and the ball to not beat the trap corner.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, I mean you talked about it a
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: little bit with Drake in the in this press conference.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure how many fans realize, like how tied
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: to the offense footwork, mechanics. All of that is to
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: the timing of the offense. And that's what I think
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: he talked about yesterday is getting his footwork matched up
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: with Josh's offense.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a lot of people kind of just
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: look at him the footwork. Is it sloppy, right? But
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: really it's about timing the drop to the routes because
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: then it's rhythmic. Like if you try you know, when
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: he hits the top of his drop, when he's looking
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: at his first read, the receivers should be at the
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: top of the route and starting to come out of
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: the break, and that way there he can throw in
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: rhythm to different guys. And if that isn't tethered together
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: the drop in the route, then you have an issue.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: You're either rushing it to get it out there, like
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: he said he was, or you're holding onto the football.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna break some of this stuff down for my
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: flag football team if you don't mind out some coaching.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Got to tether the routes with the draft to get
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: my playbook together.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Eric and fort Meade, Maryland, Thank you Eric for your service.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I assume I know we have picks, but I have
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: a bone to pick with you. This aggression will not stand. Man,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: he's talking to me. I cannot stand idly while you
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: besmirch bell bottoms as you did A brief moment yesterday.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: At the start of my career in the Navy, the
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: working uniform were dungarees which were Denham bell bottoms Donkeys.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: After a few washes, they were quite comfortable, accentuated my
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: manly form, which my wife, my future wife, appreciated, and
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: allowed me to leave my boots on for quick and
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: easy removal. Sounds strange, but a nice option to have.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: That being said, I'm sure my new rivalry gear hooded
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: sweatshirt will be just as comfortable as I enjoy a
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: cold bud light. Sitting in my recliner from a Bob's
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Discount furniture watching the Patriots defeat Miami twenty four to twenty.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Eric, thank you for your service.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: While reflecting upon the Massachusetts two.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: No, I think obviously the Navy is well known for
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: their bell bottoms.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: What so, what'd you go off?
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I just said, you know, like we were talking about
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the flat brim caps, and I said, people who wear
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: those now twenty years from now are going to be
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: like what was I thinking? The same way people who
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: wore the bottom I.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Brought up like some of the you know, like the
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: champion sweatshirt over the champion like and I was like, yeah,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: that would be a change. He goes, So that's like
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: a towny. Look like I was a I U was remembered.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Well, we were all townies in some respect.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean yeah, every single athlete. Whereas flat brim
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: hats now, so I guess they're all not cool.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Well do you think all the athletes that wore the sorry,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: everybody wore the hats like someone threw up on them.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: I think they were cool, like they all that's the
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: stuff and the starter stuff nineties.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Everybody wore the seventies. But now they look back and
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I look like such a.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Fool in the seventies.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Well, that's right, but that some things are everlasting. There's
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: some styles at our age. A white T shirt, bell
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: bottoms is not one of them.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: A little black dressers, a little back trussed.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I've been a live long enough now though, to realize that, like,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: jeans are just it's on a cycle, and if you
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: can just get like five pairs of jeans that you
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: really like, you could probably you know, I got my
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: skinny jeans also will come back in about ten years.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: And then you know, now where everybody's got the wide
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: leg straight down.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: To the bottom jeans that I were in high school
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: age them.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what you gotta do. I'm like, I
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: wish I never got rid of it.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: A mile flex that she's still in shape.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Was oh whoa okay, confidence you're supposed to sniff after you.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Leff Chris and Virginia. After the last game, there was
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: some pessimism around the team going into this weekend's fixture.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Can each of you give one reason to be positive
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: for the season ahead and you can't repeat a reason.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I'll give mine and Vrabel's career as a player and
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: head coach six times he's lost the opening fixture and
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: gone on to have an above five hundred season. This
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: includes the one and o three seasons. So let's be positive.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: A new week of games is here, learn, grow, and
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: let's go. So one reason why you're minus positive, mins.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: It's just weak two.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: It's just week two. If there's time to get the
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: train rolling and nothing has been decided yet, so there's
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: still time to get it all moving in the right direction.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that, and I think from I
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: have faith and Vrabel and Josh McDaniels and their ability
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: to adjust and adapt and start to learn about this
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: team and what this team does well and what it
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: doesn't do well. And I think their talent, you know,
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: the last couple of years, I don't think they've had
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: the talent to make big adjustments that could really help
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: them win football games. I do think the talent's a
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: little bit more improved this time. So to the emailer's point,
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: if we let's give it four or five weeks and
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: then at some point in September, hopefully Josh and Mike
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: Rabel come together and they're like, let's scrap this, let's
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: let's do this, Let's make this our ident and e
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: let's make this our focus, and then hopefully they can
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: start doing that well and that's when the wins will come.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Alex, you have one.
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say it's just there's a lot of
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: fresh faces and new energy and people.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: I felt like last year guys just got to a
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: point where they're complacent with all the losing, and I
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: don't think you can have that on a football team.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: And the youth would be a reason to suggest that
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: that won't happen because these guys still fighting for their careers,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: so they won't pack it in. I would just go
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: with Drake May, I think he's too talented to play
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: the way he did last week. I think he'll get
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: better the more experience he gets, the more comfortable he
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: gets in this offense. I just think he's I believe
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: in the talent, I believe in his skill set. I
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: think he'll get better. And that's my reason for optimism.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at along those same lines, I'll say that I'm
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: optimistic because of Josh McDaniels. I think kind of he
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: sees what happened last week with Drake and the and
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: he'll make adjustments.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Evans.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: But right, we.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Were asked not to repeat one, all right, so those
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: the first eighteen minutes are over on downhill.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: Since we always talked about the extension of the preseason
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: in September, it's kind of like a bill thing, And
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: I think very Bole and Josh are kind of cut
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: from the same cloth.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Like, oh, I think the whole league does it now.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I think that they're kind of the same way,
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: where like by like October around Halloween, they're going to
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: kind of really know what the team is and what
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: they have and what they're able to do successfully and
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: do well, and then they'll lean into whatever that is,
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: you know, if that's throwing the ball, if that's running
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: the ball, if it's you know, blitzing all the time
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: on defense or not. You know, maybe it's what we.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Remember last year. You know, Week one, Week two, you know,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: scorings down. You know, defenses are catching out. You know,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: the season unfolds and it really doesn't unfold that way.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: And it's the same thing now. You know that there
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: was a bunch of games that were under the total
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: in Week one and defense is catch it. I think
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: it's what Evan's talking about. I think there's a lot
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: of these teams. You don't hit a lot in preseason.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: The frontline guys don't play a lot in the preseason,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: and no one's offense is in mid season form when
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: the season starts. You know, there was like a handful
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: of games that, like the Baltimore Buffalo game with the
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: talent is just two immense to stop anybody, but everybody
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: else looked like, you know, they're shaking the rust off
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: of a lack of activity during the summer.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: The defenses are I think taking more chances now, and
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: we saw it here with all the blitzing that the
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Patriots did. But I feel like defenses now are realizing
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: like they're gonna land some punches where it's just too
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: hard to cover all these guys and to play defense nowadays,
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: to think that we're just gonna be the eighty five
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: Bears out here and shut everybody out. So let's I
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: feel like they are more aggressive to pressure quarterbacks, take
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: the ball away, and like almost like that's now becoming
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: the it thing on defense, like negative plays and turnovers,
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: like can you produce those two things? And you might
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: give up nine explosive plays exces, But if you have
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: x amount of sacks and X amount of turnovers and
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: x amount of tackles for loss, you might feel like
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: you still had a good day on defense. And I
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: feel like we see that across the league.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: All right, A five to five past five hundred. Let's
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: go back to the phones, uh, Christians in LA. What's up? Christians?
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: Hey you guys?
• 42:27
  Speaker 13: But going on, hey, hey, So I'm gonna go ahead
• 42:30
  Speaker 13: and let's say play the tape forward for weeks, and
• 42:33
  Speaker 13: let's say we are zero to four and worst one
• 42:36
  Speaker 13: in three some.
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: Of that of that nature. A question, do you guys
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: see anybody out there that you think would shake loose
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: that could make a noticeable difference, put it back on
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: a playoff trajectory, and then I have a game for
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: you guys. Drake May at best will be what quarterback
• 42:55
  Speaker 7: and at worst will be what quarterback. And my game
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: prediction I have the Patriots' twenty to seventeen.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Christians positivity. I don't know, like who could
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: shake loose after week now, don't you know? I don't know.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: They need legit talent, like you know, getting another three
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: four receiver or rotational defensive end or like those aren't
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: going to move the needle for this.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: And the guys that that do move the needle, that
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: shake loose, they shake loose for a reason. Like right now,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: you're hearing a lot of talk about Tyreek Hill and
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: potentially as Miami just had enough of him, and they're gonna.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Say if we're one and three in Miami zoning four,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: maybe they.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: But they're not gonna But he's not gonna come to
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: the Patriots. The Patriots are not going to get Tyreek
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Hill if they won in three, right, that doesn't make
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: any sense, right, because they won in three. They're not
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: going to take a guy who's going to give you
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: all kinds of bad publicity when you're one in three,
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: like it's not worth it?
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: What about winning games?
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: It's that's my point. If they were three and one,
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: then you bite the bullet and say, yeah, he's kind
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: of a pain, but he could help us and we
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: can maybe make a run.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Bow you're giving up at one in three, I'm not up,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: but yeah, okay, I'm not giving up at one and three.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: And I also think there's only a select amount of
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: teams that would take on Tyreek Hill, you know, and
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I don't think one of them.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: But so the only reason you're saying don't take Tyreek
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Hill is because of this baggage. Yes, what about a
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: player that doesn't have a baggage at one and three?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Would you pick up a player that you think if
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I thought there was a player that was worth Okay,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: so you're not giving up.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Well on the season is that's different? But I wouldn't
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: mean but if I can acquire a good player, yeah, yes.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I want to aire good players, Okay.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: But not I'm not acquiring him because I think he's
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: going to make me a playoff team this year. If
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: I'm one and three and I'm acquiring it because I
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: need good players. I need to rebuild, I need to
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: get better. I need to help my quarterback.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: What's his frame of mind coming to a one and
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: three Patriots team coming on four Dolphins team? Is he
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: could even be that guy that they.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Would need to just like I can understand why they
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: were interested in, you know, big money. They were interested
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: in Ronnie Stanley, you know, paying a lot of money
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: for a left tackle. They were interested in in Chris Godwin.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: They were interested in giving him a lot of money
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: because they need players.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: You know what I might believe, I might believe the
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Chiefs trading for Tyreek Hill.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard that a lot. I don't think that
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense, And I don't I really
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: don't think it makes a lot of sense because that,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: to me, they need a receiver right now, you know,
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: because Worthy got hurt and Rice is serving a suspension
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: in two months. They won't they don't want that headache.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: But everybody seems to be thinking that's one of the
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: only teams that would take him back because they they
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: kind of feel like they could work with them and
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: they can make it work with with that pain.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: And I thought he was going to retire, didn't he say,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: He has been a problem for Miami, and I know
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: he and Tua have had their their differences, and now,
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: like Mike's pointed out that Tua hasn't had a big
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: play reception since Week one of last year. It's good, but.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: You just want a good start and the Patriots to
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: do everything right. Like I'm not sure there's anything worse
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: than if the Patriots got out of Miami and the
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: first quarter and it's just three and out and they
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: go right down the field and score like that is
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: I don't see how they bounce back from that. But
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: if you go down there, you forced two out, you
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: force a punt, maybe you score, you know, just a
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: good start and start to encourg Like I said, yes,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I encourage the Dolphins to maybe not.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I think you did. I thought I did too, but
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I can't remember.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: We're getting Marine corps, all.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Right, Thanks Patty's and Havel's.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Crediting for the first eighteen minutes of this show.
• 46:28
  Speaker 10: What's up, guys, Hiving?
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: Just a quick question and I'll take it out the
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: here ball. There were questioned, so Evan Mike Paul Fred
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: could sit this one out. I'm just joking, how do
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: you think it is the best way that you can
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: attack this Miami Dolphins defense. Is it going to be
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: kind of what we saw this past Sunday or probably
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: maybe a little bit more of an even split on
• 46:49
  Speaker 8: running pass? Thanks guys, pick it up there by Thanks.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: I hope they're more balanced. I mean they have to
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: be more balanced. But I do think that, you know,
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: the calls gave you some things that you could probab
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: probably do from the gun, the you know, gun runs, RPOs,
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: things like that. They gave him some problems. And one
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: of the things I think that really stood out to
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: watching Daniel Jones, because like, this is Daniel Jones, right,
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: and he goes out there and he looks like he's
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen and he's just dropping dimes all over the field.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: They really scripted three or four throws right off the
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: bat in that game for Daniel Jones that were just easy,
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: roll out to the left, dump it in the flat
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: to Tyler Warren and pick up positive yards on the
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: first couple of plays of the game. And they weren't
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: asking him to do much. They were moving the pocket
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: on a couple of them, and it was just very
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: easy elementary football, and for Drake, I wonder if you
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: kind of do that for him and try to get
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: him into the game a little bit with some easy layouts,
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: then maybe you can start to build some of his confidence.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: I think it's a lot to ask, like for him,
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: you know, to drop back on like the first third
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: down of the game and just like it's third and
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: long and you got to make a throw, you know,
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: and it's like, there's not he hasn't been built up
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: at all at that point. There's no confidence whatsoever. So
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: I would like to just see them try to get
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: Drake into the game, like scheme open some things and
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: scheme up some stuff that is just easy, one read
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: and out type of things like the Colts did for
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: Daniel Jones. Because he did that and all of a
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: sudden he was cooking. Like he hit three or four
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: of those underneath throws that were nice easy throws into
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: the flats, and he throws a really good ball to
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: Tyler Warren on a wheel route to put them into
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: field goal range that I don't know if he makes
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: that throw if he doesn't have the other one. So
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: I would come out throwing, but I would come out
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: throwing conservatively and try to get Drake into the game
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: a little bit.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: That's what you want to do. Fred, You said that
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: in the postgame show.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Brian Lowell, what's up? Brian Lowell? Hey, hey tell.
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: Us Hey, how you guys doing good?
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 48:57
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I want I want to talk to talk to
• 48:59
  Speaker 11: you guys about it. Christian Guntle's injury concern is a hamstring,
• 49:05
  Speaker 11: you know, if he's gonna be be willing.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Return, be playing again, like.
• 49:11
  Speaker 11: You know, guys know about that.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: He'll play eventually, but I assume at some point he'll
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: be back, but we haven't. He hasn't been on the
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: practice field in over six weeks at this point, and
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine that that points to him playing Sunday.
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it is crazy. He has been in the
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: locker room pretty frequently when we've been in the locker room.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: So they're not hiding him. He'll be back.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's going to be.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Just as a point of comparison, Okay, So George Kitt'll
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: pull the hamstring in the week one game and they
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: put him on I R. So they're telling everybody he's
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: gonna miss four weeks. You know, so hamstring. I know
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: people just look at It's not just a hamstring will
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: be out a day or two like these things linger,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: especially especially skill game.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I've had a hamstring. If you had
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: a hamstring, yeah, I had a quad rip too.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: I never had a quadrate, but I did have a hamstring.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: I felt like I got shot with an elephant.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Conn Nick pull the hamshring playing pick up basketball.
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: He hasn't played basketball in like a year and a
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: half because of it.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: But I mean, I'm one hundred years old and he's not.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: You'd like to think you should be able to get
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: back out there.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: But Ben's and Philly, Hey Ben, hello, can you guys
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: hear me?
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: Cool?
• 50:24
  Speaker 14: Sorry, I had a hamstring Tereror sophomore year of high
• 50:26
  Speaker 14: school kept me out eight weeks of football. So hamshers
• 50:31
  Speaker 14: absolutely a big deal. Ye, first point I wanted to make.
• 50:35
  Speaker 14: I don't understand the panic about Drake first first game
• 50:39
  Speaker 14: news system. He was good to start, We're fine. Sometimes
• 50:42
  Speaker 14: it just feels like they want to see a Joe Flacco,
• 50:46
  Speaker 14: a forty year old Joe Flacco play instead of this young,
• 50:49
  Speaker 14: exciting kid that's going to develop. So I just don't
• 50:53
  Speaker 14: get that second question I had was. I watched some
• 50:57
  Speaker 14: of that Dolphins tape and it seems like they play
• 51:01
  Speaker 14: a lot of zone coverage, don't blitz a ton, so
• 51:04
  Speaker 14: similar to the setup against the Raiders from what I understand,
• 51:09
  Speaker 14: do we expect that or are they gonna ratchet up
• 51:11
  Speaker 14: the blitz?
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Thanks?
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Thanks Ben?
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: The Raiders did. Yeah, I mean, if I were in
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: the second half, if I.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Were Miami, I'm trying to get Drake uncomfortable and trying
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: to you know, disguise pool him, get free rushers, you know,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: take him out of the game early.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can look at it two ways.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Because but the secondary is a problem for Miami.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: So if you're Anthony Weaver, the Dolphins defensive coordinator, do
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: you try to protect the secondary by getting after the
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: passer or do you try to protect the secondary by
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: putting more guys in coverage and flooding zones. So you
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: can look at it both ways. I think the strength
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: of the Dolphins defense is probably their ability to get
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: after the passer with guys like Jalen Phillips and Bradley
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Chubb and Chop Robinson. Yeah, I would maybe maybe you
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: just try to get after Drake May and say, you know,
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: if we don't get there. We're not gonna win this
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: game because we can't cover with this group of players.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would just respectfully disagree about the blitzing. And
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: I just looked up the number they blitzed Daniel Jones
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: sixty percent of the time last week, which has got
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: to be one of the highest numbers in.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: The LAY and I just think that, Yeah, if you're Miami,
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: do you say, well, we're gonna sit back with that
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: secondary that well, they're saying at least three guys.
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: So the reason why I brought it up is because
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: they use creepers, so they they blitz from the second
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: and third level and then they drop guys off the
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: line of scrimmage, so they actually are I think probably
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: the caller was seeing like they end up only rushing
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: four guys, but which four guys they're rushing is not
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: the same down to down right, So it's uh, if
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: you're watching it, like, yeah, I could definitely see how
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: it Well, it was a four man rush, but one
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: of the rushers might be a safety coming off the
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: edge or a slot corner blitzing from the nickel spot
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: or something like that, so that Anthony Weaver comes from
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: Balta more. That's they mix it up. They pressure quarterbacks
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: a lot, so I expect them That's exactly what they
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: did to Drake last year. I'll mention that too in
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: that game went down there last year. So I expect
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: them to come after Drake again until he proves to
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: them that he can beat that kind of defense.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Brandon Main writes in when it comes to what he
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: regards as the right approach to offensive football, Evan is
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: as stubborn, or maybe more so than Paul. It's probably true,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: given the opportunity to be part of the interview for
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: the Patriots OC job, I imagine it goes like this, Evan,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: are you Kyle Shanahan. Are you Kyle Shanahan candidate? No?
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Are you from his coaching tree?
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: No?
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: If you aren't a Shanahan disciple? Do you even know football?
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Bro?
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: But seriously, it's evident Evan is not a big fan
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: of the Josh McDaniels offense, or at least the current
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: version of it. When listening, Evan's suggestions for improving the
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: offense and tailoring it to Drake's skill sets seem to
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: be sensible. At some motion. Window dressing get him on
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: the move bring in more art. Yet Evan isn't smarter
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: than Josh McDaniels and probably isn't even smarter than AVP.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: So if we assume Evan has a point a large
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: assumption to make, but let's give him some leeway. Why
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: is it that the Patriots big brains have not gone
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: down the road Lazarre wants traveled? What would you lead?
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: What would lead you or us to believe that they
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: know best and have a plan.
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm an idiot apparently, so I don't know.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: I respond to that, I don't know.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: I just I want to see how they continue to
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: grow the offense. And like I said yesterday, your first
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: game of the season, talking so much about we don't
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: know what the opponent's going to do, I don't think
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: you know how much your team's going to do as well.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: So now that they have a sample size of their
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: own team, now it's time to start to evolve and
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: lean into things that maybe you saw some positive glimmers
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: of hope from and get rid of the things that
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: didn't work. And you know, my hope is that they
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: continue to build it out around him and that they
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: do incorporate some of those things, and you know, just
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: try to make it easier on Drake. I think at
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's all about making Drake
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: may funk in this offense. So whatever it takes. If
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: he you know, if he can't handle too much motion
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: or whatever and there's too much on his plate, then
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: maybe they need to go a little bit slower. But
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: I would hope that this will be a week by
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: week building And those.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Are all great points. And I think your your main
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: point that you started with is the one that I
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: always get to. And Bill used to talk about it
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: all the time, like, you know, people come out in
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: week one, you're not really sure exactly forget about what
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: the other team. Everybody says, well, you know, it's all
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: the unknown, but you don't know what you're going to do.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: I remember the year there was a year somewhere in
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: the middle the middle ots like five o six in
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: that era, they opened with Buffalo. The first play of
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: the year was a strip sack of to Ko Spikes.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: I strip sacked for a touchdown and Bill, I remember,
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: it's like, I don't know how many of us had
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: getting strip sacked for a touchdown on the first play
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: of the season. You know, but you just sort of
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: adjust because you just it's such an unknown and you
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: just you figure out what you have, what the other
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: teams are doing, and then you figure out what you
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: do well. Maybe there were three things that they we
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: expected to do really well against the Raiders and none
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: of those things happened. Yeah, yeah, so now you would
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: just yeah, or was it a one off and we
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: are going to be able to run the ball most
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: weeks we weren't able to run in a week? One?
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Can I do a tiny story? That was my game
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Open Row six, my first time ever to this stadium.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: My sister and I went together, had so much fun.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: We got here like way too early, park behind the
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: liquor store. We got here, we had a tennis ball
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: and a like thirty pack of beer and that was it,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: and we.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: Had so much fun.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: We were like tennis ball for I don't know it
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: was in the things that we're just playing the tennis ball,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: but we had so much fun. In the tailgate, we're
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: like run into our seats up in the three hundreds
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: and then that it's already like the flyovers happened, and
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: we're like where else seas we gotta get there like
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: we literally sit down. It's like boom bo boom, fat sack.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: We're like, oh man, that's not a good stuff.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: But they still won Ty Warren's safety.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Troy Banna touched down. Yeah, those are the days.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: So here's one little nick, because you know, I can
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: never just let things go. It's too immature to just
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: let things go. We're just trying to offer opinions, right,
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: No one suggesting that we know more than the people
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: that are making the decisions and whatnot. But like, what
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: does you think of the decision to make Matt Patricia
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator? Everybody but Fred?
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Not a great decision?
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, do you know more than Bill Belichick?
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Football?
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Now? So, like, I don't think you have to be
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: a professional coach or an owner of a team to
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: be allowed to have an opinion on what you think
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: is a good direction to go.
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I obviously echo that as well, and
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: I obviously know that I don't know as much about
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: football as Josh McDaniels. But at the same time, like
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: I get paid to sit here and tell you what
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: I think of what's going on.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you're wrong because you differ with guys
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: that have more information than you do. It doesn't make
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: you automatically wrong. If that were true, like none of
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: this would exist, We wouldn't, no one would be able
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: to do this.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think, you know, from McDaniel's life, I
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: guess from I just want to see it, Like I
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: want to see him have a more creative, more modern
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: style offense that I don't necessarily know I've seen from
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: him before. And that doesn't mean he can't do it.
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: I just I haven't. I mean, they were last in
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: the league in motion rate in Week one they motioned
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: to eighteen percent of the time. The thirty first team
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: in the league in motion rate motion thirty six percent
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: of the time, double what the Patriots did. So is
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: that a Drake may issue? Is that a week one issue?
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: And we're going to build towards that, like whatever the
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: case may be. I hope it's just one of those things.
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: And that's not the plan. Because when you turn on
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: these tapes of these other offenses, there's misdirection, there's deception,
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: there's guys all over the place, there's RPOs and certain offenses,
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: there's under center with motion and window dressing and the
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: Shanahan tree offenses, and then you watch the Patriots tape
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: and it doesn't look like anything like that. So they
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: have to find a way to, you know, to make
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: that happen.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Smitty and Georgia says, what percentage of plays did Drake
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: line up on just last year and how does that
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: compare it to last week? Could his lack of accuracy
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: and poor footwork be caused by an increase in dropbacks
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: where he's historically a gun quarterback.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: He was in shotgun for the vast majority of this
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: last game, And I wouldn't say that that's the biggest
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: issue is under center versus shotgun, but he has made
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: it pretty clear that the under center stuff is an adjustment,
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: like that's definitely been something that he has said to
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: me multiple times about it.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: So do you think that feeds in it all to
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: some of their lack of success in the run game,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: that maybe Josh's playbook more comfortable running under center rather
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: than gun runs.
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: Well under centers most coaches would prefer to run the
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: ball from under center. I would say just the lead
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: up that you get from the back being all the
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: way back in the backfield, and the head start that
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: he gets at the line of scrimmage. The deception of
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: being able to go left or right is big. You
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: know that there's just a lot of to being able
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: to run the football from under center. Play action works
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: better from under center than it does from shotgun. So ideally,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: I think pretty much every team that doesn't have Jaden
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: Daniels or Lamar Jackson wants to be under center.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Listen to Paul on Felger and Maz yesterday and they
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: asked them to bring them a gift next week. If
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: the Patriots lose.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: I was under siege.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Paul, bring them a giant crap sandwich. They'll love it
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: since their whole show was crap. And yes, I do
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: listen religiously. Hashtag hate listen Heaven is left. Speaking of food, Fredo's,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: this is from Friedo. They're the parent company. Football fans
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: know that traditions matter, turning moments together into something truly epic.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: There would inspire us to make our masa and tostitos
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: the traditional way, starting with whole corn kernels, no artificial flavors, colors,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: or preservatives, all to give you that perfect crunch. Discover
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: your next tradition this football season. Head to the store.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Have be a Tostito's team bag and scan the code
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: for a chance to win a epic experience with the Patriots.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Tostito's tradition matters, So I just want to get that
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: in there. What are you going to bring them if
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: the Patriots lose?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: Well, I was thinking I have to give it some thought,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: but if we could maybe you know, get a little
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: something from the pro shop. I was kind of thinking
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: something along those lines.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Something that like they can leave out for shows to come.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad actually that the emailer brought
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: that up, because that was my first thought. As soon
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: as they said it, I was like, we can, we
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: can do something with this. And then of course I'm Paul,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: so I forgot about it and I remember back to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: where the random game.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: From six that's I mean, buying a present for somebody
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: in general is always something you kind of put off.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: But I was thinking something that we could benefit from
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: giving them. Do you know what I mean?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: That mini rivalry helmet. They're going to pop down, move
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: some product.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Let's go, so can you effort that we could just.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Go by it to know exactly if you want? How
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: about I'll keep it if they don't. If they win.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Why don't you ask our pr department if you could
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: give them a gift, what would you give them?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know that.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: I don't think that would go well.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Now, Jay Wright saying, do you think the Patriots will
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: have Fton Chisholm active? I really like his play style,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: knows how to get open. That's j from Missouri. No,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: you think he'll be active for this game?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: No, he's still doing scout team stuff. So you know,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: he's the sixth receiver. And I mean Kyle Williams only
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: had about twelve snaps at the end, so he's the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: other rookie seven snaps. So I mean, you guys did
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: know better than I would. But I mean this is
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: how kind of works sometimes rookie receivers. You know, Kyle
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Williams is probably the fifth receiver, and they're working them
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: in a little bit, getting him some sample and see
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: if he, you know, blossoms.
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  Speaker 3: If there's injuries, I think there's always a chance. I
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: can't imagine that you need six receivers dressed. So I
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: think if he comes out, who you're taking out? Yeah,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Kyle Williams.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Well, doesn't Booty have a shoulder? Yeah?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: But he's not going to not play in the game.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: He missed like three plays with the injury when it happened. Now,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: I get it, adrenaline and all that. So to Fred's point,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: maybe it's worse now. So if he, if he would
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: ever for whatever reason didn't play, then sure. But I
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: just don't. I don't know. I just don't see the
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: magical transformation in the offense that I guess I'm alone
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: on because we got like a couple of calls when
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: I was on yesterday with Mike and Tony. We have
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: a couple of emailers here, you know. Evidently it's a
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: bigger catch radius. I don't know, but I guess I
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  Speaker 3: just don't. I'll be the loan dissenter there.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Jordan writes in on Wednesday show, you Guys mentioned apparel,
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  Speaker 1: and Paul replied, Chester buy apparel, and I thought in
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  Speaker 1: my head while listening in the show, gosh, that's probably
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: a ten year old quote at this point. Wait, that
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  Speaker 1: might be thirteen years years old. Then I realized that
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  Speaker 1: I've been listening to you guys since eight, when I
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  Speaker 1: was in high school. I've been listening for fifty percent
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  Speaker 1: of my life. That's crazy to think about There are
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  Speaker 1: times I missed the old crew, but I also love
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  Speaker 1: Mike and Evan, even though Mike is really not new anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I love the show listen to it as much as
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  Speaker 1: I can during long walks while working at the post office.
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  Speaker 1: You guys have me give me much needed relief by
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  Speaker 1: bringing jokes, some great talk about the Patriots. Oh you're welcome.
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  Speaker 3: You know what.
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  Speaker 2: I really love that you put it. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was email of the week with the guy and his
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  Speaker 2: daughter Lucy, who is now like a fan of the show,
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  Speaker 2: and I just thought that was, you know, so cool
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  Speaker 2: to see, like, you know, definitely not our usual demographic
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  Speaker 2: to see, but you know, to see a you know,
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  Speaker 2: a young.
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  Speaker 1: Patriots fan, so appreciate.
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  Speaker 2: Why do I shout out?
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  Speaker 3: Lucy interrdad Chester actually heard it and he reached out
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  Speaker 3: to me, you know, thanks for the shout out.
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  Speaker 1: Was the story behind on.
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  Speaker 3: He just a passionate fan. He called in. He was
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  Speaker 3: a frequent caller, but he just he had like a
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  Speaker 3: fredlike rant one day about you know, sort of like
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  Speaker 3: snap out of it, like positive a picture. It's all positive,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like we need to be there, we need
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  Speaker 3: to be loud, we need to have the confidence and
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  Speaker 3: we need to buy apparel. It was part of his
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  Speaker 3: whole like right psych hype video that became a little
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  Speaker 3: stick by apparel.
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  Speaker 1: I'm of the mindset that the Dolphins are, as one
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  Speaker 1: set on the show, a wounded beast, but unlike many
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  Speaker 1: like but unlike many there, I know they have the
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  Speaker 1: talent to come roaring back. This game is not a gimme,
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  Speaker 1: and I feel that Fred's guarantee is fraught with baseless optimism.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to argue with that. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to argue with that. I don't have a lot to
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  Speaker 1: base it on at this point, because the evidence says
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  Speaker 1: right now that the Patriots are on one. And there's
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  Speaker 1: an old head coach that used to be the head
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  Speaker 1: coach of this team that said, you are what your
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  Speaker 1: record says you are.
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  Speaker 2: So but you got a good feel for the league,
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  Speaker 2: right I mean, do you feel like your feel for
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: the league is.
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  Speaker 1: On point right now?
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  Speaker 12: I do?
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  Speaker 2: I do get some vibes. Yeah, just you feel it.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I have a decent feel for the league.
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  Speaker 1: H If the Patriots win this game, I will effort
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  Speaker 1: and owe to the curse in order to show my
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  Speaker 1: humility at being wrong. However, I want some acknowledgment when
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  Speaker 1: the Fish squish us. Well, absolutely you will. I'm not gonna, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Here thet I will be on and believe me, we're
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  Speaker 3: not going to sit here and tell you no.
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  Speaker 2: I might get mad.
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  Speaker 3: I think everything was great.
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  Speaker 2: I never got mad last week. Did I get mad
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  Speaker 2: last week?
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember getting mad. There is a scenario that
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  Speaker 3: could lose this game that it wouldn't like completely.
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  Speaker 2: Four.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, they wouldn't completely end all my hope. And that's
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  Speaker 3: Drake may playing a great game. The offense looking really productive,
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  Speaker 3: kind of like the Jets lost. I'm not telling you
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  Speaker 3: I'd be thrilled with that. Yeah, but I'm just saying
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  Speaker 3: that might not signal the end.
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  Speaker 2: Of They're starting to get starting to find some stride
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if they lose this game, like they just
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  Speaker 12: What's going on right?
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  Speaker 1: Well, how are you doing good?
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  Speaker 12: I was practicing. Yeah, it's good. Good to get back
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  Speaker 12: out there.
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  Speaker 17: We'll get on a new week, uh, new opponent and
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  Speaker 17: just uh yeah, I think anybody's got you know, everybody
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  Speaker 17: gets an energy for your division rival and uh, your
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  Speaker 17: division opponent. So uh you're looking forward to get back
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  Speaker 17: out there, and all these guys brought today and you know,
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  Speaker 17: get stuff to clean up and look at. But I
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  Speaker 17: thought it was a good energy out there.
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  Speaker 12: Today. What for you were the biggest areas improvement cleaning
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  Speaker 12: the end of this week. Yeah, I think, uh hey,
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  Speaker 12: I think this just take you next step.
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  Speaker 17: I think, you know, part of has moved on and
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  Speaker 17: part has learning from from stuff about the game. I think, uh,
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  Speaker 17: you'll get off on a better start, you know, first
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  Speaker 17: less than three, and now we have a good field
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  Speaker 17: position on that first you know possession, so you'll find
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  Speaker 17: a way to you know, start faster. I think that's
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  Speaker 17: a kind of a theme for the team. Start faster.
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  Speaker 17: I think from there, just you know, those I like
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  Speaker 17: to have back. I think I feel, like I said
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  Speaker 17: every game, but particularly you know ones where I like
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  Speaker 17: I had guys open and from there just uh.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 17: I think down in the red zone, I think he'll
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  Speaker 17: get it better down in the red zone where a
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  Speaker 17: decision making on my part or accy or just in general.
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  Speaker 12: I think we've got to scort us downs and we're
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  Speaker 12: down in the red zone. What's your comfort level in
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  Speaker 12: this offense right now? Yeah, I think we're building.
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  Speaker 17: I think you felt good, you know, kind of reciting
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 17: the plays and getting out of the huddle and getting
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  Speaker 17: in and out of checks, you know, out there during
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  Speaker 17: the game, So it felt good to get that in
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 17: the game's rep and I think you'll, you'll continue to
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  Speaker 17: get better between uh, you know, me and coach, and
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  Speaker 17: I think, you know, more we do and the more
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  Speaker 17: we're kind of seeing the same things and you know,
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  Speaker 17: stuff we can revert back to in the game setting
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  Speaker 17: will always gotta help us going forward. And I think
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  Speaker 17: those guys guys, you know they were catching the football
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  Speaker 17: and blocking the front. I thought they, you know, play
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  Speaker 17: their butts off, and I think, uh, you know, they
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  Speaker 17: canture a lot of credit and I could do my part.
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  Speaker 1: Great.
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  Speaker 5: Do you do you think the fixes are something that
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  Speaker 5: can happen relatively quickly or is this something that's gonna
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  Speaker 5: evolve over the season?
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  Speaker 17: Fixes and meaning what needs to have happened to the
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  Speaker 17: offense to be better. Yeah, I think, uh, it's something
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  Speaker 17: we're working working hard to you'll fix this week.
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  Speaker 12: You know, we're gonna get back.
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  Speaker 17: And there's one game that you know, we want, we wish,
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  Speaker 17: you know, we would have had and it's like we
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 17: could have had, you know. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 17: I think, have we got pieces, We got guys that
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  Speaker 17: you know, play hard and then did a lot of
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  Speaker 17: good things you know on Sunday, so build off that
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  Speaker 17: and and try to learn from that and and establish
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  Speaker 17: the run and build off that. But yeah, I think
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  Speaker 17: that the goal is to, you know, everybody after week
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  Speaker 17: one is trying to you know, kind of assess.
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  Speaker 12: Where they're at and get back there in week two.
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  Speaker 12: And I think it's you know, my job to.
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  Speaker 17: Kind of gets going and like I said, try to
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  Speaker 17: start fast and from there just uh, you know, take it,
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  Speaker 17: give me create positive plays. I think us that we're
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  Speaker 17: trying to just positive plays and from there, I feel
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  Speaker 17: like if it don't get our own way, I think
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  Speaker 17: we'll be fine.
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  Speaker 12: Great goods.
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  Speaker 18: You mentioned, you know there's throws you'd like that back.
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  Speaker 18: Was there anything haven't watched him again how it fell?
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  Speaker 18: Is there anything that was sort of consistent on those
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 18: froze Is that a mechanical thing? Is it a recognition
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  Speaker 18: thing that was there a consistent theme on them?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 12: I think just some of them's rushing them.
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  Speaker 17: I think, you know, I see him and you're kind
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  Speaker 17: of rushing to try to get out so as quick
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  Speaker 17: as you can. That want to populars getting close to
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  Speaker 17: the sideline with kind of a trapped corner. They actually
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  Speaker 17: try to get it out as quick as I can
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  Speaker 17: to them to get the first you know, but from
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  Speaker 17: there I think, you know, really I saw I have
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  Speaker 17: been thrown it pretty good and you'll see it well,
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  Speaker 17: so I think, you know, sometimes there's your throws that uh,
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  Speaker 17: like I said, you just you know, man, that could
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  Speaker 17: have helped us. And you know, I think I made
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  Speaker 17: some some pretty good throws throughout the game. You know
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  Speaker 17: that I felt good about actually wise, so uh yeah,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 17: I'm not gonna you know, over harp on too much.
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  Speaker 17: And at the same time, you gotta hit guys when
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 17: they're open, so it's a it's an even kind of balance.
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  Speaker 17: But uh yeah, I think I definitely actually is one
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  Speaker 17: of you know, biggest thing is a quarterback, so you know,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 17: being accurate is what I take pride in, and you
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  Speaker 17: can't miss open.
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  Speaker 18: Guysfon Digs told us it's important to him to give
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  Speaker 18: you positive feedback and reinforcement.
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  Speaker 12: As a captain in the trench sky.
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  Speaker 18: Now, like, how do you feel you're experiencing with pressure
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  Speaker 18: and expectation that that comes with that.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think the guys are being great around me.
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  Speaker 17: I think you know, they're pumping me up and staying
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  Speaker 17: positive in the huddles, got some juice.
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  Speaker 12: So that's that's the biggest thing.
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  Speaker 17: I think that kind of being in the huddle and
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 17: have some juice and kind of not having all eyes
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 17: on each other, you know, waiting for somebody to say something.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 17: I feel like they have some juice in the huddle,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 17: and that's what I'm trying to bring to practice. You know,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 17: bring some juice and positive energy and you'll let you know,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 17: not let that game kind of bleed into this game.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 17: We just add so just try to you know, kind
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 17: of come out here and like I said, do what
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 17: I can to get the guys going, you know, early,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 17: and you're playing a different kind of climate, so adjusted
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 17: to that, and it's getting.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 12: Cold a little bit around here. But you know, those
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 12: guys do a great job pumping me up.
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  Speaker 17: And I got to realize that, you know, I'm still young,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 17: but at the same time, I still got to you know,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 17: be a voice and and help those guys around me
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  Speaker 17: because you know my voice, you know, it means something.
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  Speaker 3: Courage, rabble, so that they would evaluate you're putting too
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: much on your plate early in the season. Have you
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: noticed any changes that you put.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: Out this so far this week?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 17: Oh, I mean I think, uh, you know, any team
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 17: we're trying to established to run, so you know, from
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 17: that point, I think you win, you win games running.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 12: Football and stop in the run. So trying to set
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 12: that up, you know, I.
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  Speaker 17: Feel like I'm like the guys, we got guys that
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 17: we can go to in space and make plays and uh,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 17: you know, we can hurt teams in the past. So
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 17: I don't think, you know, I don't feel like anything's changed,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 17: and I'm just trying to do, you know, my part.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 12: And whatever they ask me to do.
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  Speaker 2: Anything like too much on your plate?
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 17: No, I mean I think like I said, uh, you
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  Speaker 17: know previously, any time you're playing quarterback in the NFL's
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 17: it's a lot on your plate. You know, you're playing
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 17: quarterback for you know, one of thirty two teams. You
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 17: know that's it's a lot. And you know something I
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  Speaker 17: take I don't think for granted. You know what a
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  Speaker 17: special position is in this league, and there's a lot
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 17: of good God comes with it, and there's a lot
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  Speaker 17: of stuff that's utt in plate.
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  Speaker 12: That's just part of it.
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  Speaker 17: So trying to do whatever I can do to you know,
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  Speaker 17: study as much as I can, and you know, hear
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  Speaker 17: the play calls and started the formations before it calls them.
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  Speaker 17: And yeah, like I said, there's a lot of things
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  Speaker 17: that go into it being accurate and play calling and
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  Speaker 17: getting in and out of play. So just trying to,
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  Speaker 17: like I said, get a get a good grip. I
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 17: think the more more we do that, you know, kind
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  Speaker 17: of throughout the weeks and this season go on, the
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  Speaker 17: better I'll feel for in this offense and.
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  Speaker 12: Talk, uh, keep talking about the plate.
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  Speaker 3: So you are never gonna say, you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: it's too much my plate, I can't do it.
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  Speaker 1: You're always gonna as a player competitor, I would badge.
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  Speaker 10: So I can do I can get it.
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  Speaker 2: Are there points in which you might say, you know what,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: it's probably not a bad idea to streamline that it's
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: a funny splot that you're it and we don't want
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: to say.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: It's too much, but you have to be realistic about
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: I'm not there on that yet.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 17: Yeah, you know what, you spend so much time for us,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 17: what you're here in April four and kind of through
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 17: that good building blocks of the offense, and I think
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 17: you know more of that is you know, hey, I
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 17: might not like this play this week, or hey, I
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 17: might not like, you know, you know, something out of
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 17: this look.
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  Speaker 12: So it's more of that me and I'll kind of share.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 17: My opinions, you know, with coach rather than you not
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 17: taking taking taking the challenge on. So I'm just trying
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 17: to coaches, trying to put you know, the best plays
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 17: in the huddle that we feel good about and that
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 17: are our best plays, and then from there just try
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 17: to go and execute.
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  Speaker 2: About sliding, how natural does that come to you?
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: And and is that something you actually practice?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 17: Yeah, you know, I play baseball growing up, so slide
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  Speaker 17: and was you know, pretty natural. Slid head first more
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 17: in second base more than I can remember, but uh yeah,
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  Speaker 17: I think just being able to get down slid a
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 17: couple of times in the games, and I think I
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 17: do better job instead of run sideways, try to give
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  Speaker 17: as much I can inside, So give as much as
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 17: I can. But you know, really from there in a
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 17: third down and kind of the good line to try
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 17: to try to be big and you know, not take
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 17: too much of a hit, but you'll give what I can.
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  Speaker 5: How do you feel you're with your mechanics in your
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: coat work right now?
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  Speaker 12: You feel like I did plays something. Yeah, it's like
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 12: I've been.
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  Speaker 17: I fel like I've been, you know, I think throughout
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 17: training camp and and throughout over the summer, you know,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 17: trying to get grip on the offense, get a grip
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  Speaker 17: on kind of the timing and the routes, and have
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 17: times with my feet I think, you know, I was,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 17: I was accurate and it made some throws when you know,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 17: my feet timed up with the routes and with the concept.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 17: So just gotta you'll stay on my all my stuff
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 17: kind of throughout the week of not letting little things
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 17: like that and you'll go to waste because I feel
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 17: like when you know, got a good base and turn
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 17: my shoulder at it and and let it rip, I've
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 17: been on target.
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  Speaker 12: So that's just the main thing. And I feel good
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 12: throwing it. So that's what matters.
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  Speaker 3: Same as what you were doing last year in terms
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: of like left and all that stuff.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 12: Yeah, you same setup.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 17: I think, like I said, different, it's a little different
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 17: offensively with under center and you really kind of kind
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 17: of the same stuff. But yeah, just trying to apply
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 17: to this offense. I came and remember some of the
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 17: different stuff from last year. But uh, yeah, trying to
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 17: keep the same stuff and try to wrap it and
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 17: just continue repping it in the throws that I feel
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 17: like you we should have back, try to get those
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 17: after practice and you know, throughout practice, try to work
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 17: on throws and making throws from from think it's tough
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 17: to emulate and practice, you know, defensive line and kind
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 17: of you know, pushing the offensive line back into you
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 17: and not getting able to step into it. So some
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 17: of those throws are tough to emulating and not trust
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  Speaker 17: what I try to do in my individual time after practice.
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  Speaker 12: You guys talk about flushing it, you know they move on.
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  Speaker 3: We has that that easy for you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 17: I think kind of throughout the of course of the
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 17: last season, you know, you learn it's it's any given
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 17: week in this league.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 12: Shoot.
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  Speaker 17: I think it's it's one of those things that you
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 17: got to bring it every week and and can't let
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 17: you know, last week kind of dwell in this week.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 17: And I think that's what you know, these guys and
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 17: what coaches is talking about and then preaching and you know,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 17: wanting to start fast. So for this for me, I think, yeah,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 17: flushing it, but also you know, not just learn from it.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 17: I think you know, learn from it. Learn as much
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 17: as I can try to get on the wing side
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  Speaker 17: of things, and that's what you know.
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  Speaker 12: I'm here to do. So thank you, guys.
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  Speaker 1: And now great moments in history. One o'clock on CBS,
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  Speaker 1: the one and one Bears are at the oh and two.
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  Speaker 3: Colts ind by one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh tough one? Ah, what's that? What's that really? Though? Fred? Well,
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  Speaker 1: there minus two then plus two. Well there you go,
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  Speaker 1: tells y'all you need to know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Cleveland at home. No Indies plus one,
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  Speaker 1: they get three, so they're minus two.
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  Speaker 3: They're at home, so they they get three, right, right,
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  Speaker 3: So it's really like they're plus two.
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  Speaker 1: They should be four.
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  Speaker 3: So if you're getting three, that means they're favored by one.
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  Speaker 1: They're not getting it.
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  Speaker 3: They are get they're giving points. They're favored by one.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't get the three.
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  Speaker 3: If you could follow the nonsensical three points for thee
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  Speaker 3: what would the spread be if it was neutral? Don't
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  Speaker 3: bring me into this any one four one.
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  Speaker 2: Plus three because you get three points that you would
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  Speaker 2: you're giving, yeah, plus three.
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  Speaker 1: Plus two if it was zero.
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  Speaker 3: I thought you get three three at home? He says,
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  Speaker 3: you get three it's not it doesn't exist. But he
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  Speaker 3: insists that you get three at home.
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  Speaker 1: It's a rule.
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  Speaker 3: So they're favored by one.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't three minus three zero, so.
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  Speaker 3: That would be minusing three.
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  Speaker 2: You said it was zero, that would be you.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good stick. It's our who's I would just
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  Speaker 1: reiterate that if it's our who's on you get three.
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  Speaker 3: For being at home? That means they were plus two,
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  Speaker 3: they were minus one. Are you plus two you got
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  Speaker 3: to give you're giving them three. I'm just saying, if
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: you go by your logic, it's not my logic, it's
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: your logic.
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  Speaker 1: I don't give him three for being there's a point
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  Speaker 1: missing there.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm confused too. Is the point to zero in
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  Speaker 6: between the minus one and the plus one?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so you go from plus two to plus one
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  Speaker 3: to zero to minus one. If you're getting three for
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: being home, it can be a push. So you have
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  Speaker 3: to subtract. You're subtracting, right, So that's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't think it exists anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So you don't think teams get points for being home?
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: They say they do.
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  Speaker 3: Vegas spreads are based on who they think is going
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  Speaker 3: to get the touts.
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  Speaker 1: Say they do.
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  Speaker 4: But about it, you don't think it plays in at all?
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, do I think the home field matters, of course,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't think it's It's like, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: every home team gets three points. I don't think that
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  Speaker 3: not a given. No, that's but if it's the Tows,
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  Speaker 3: you get more points. You should be more apt to
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: be favored if you're home, because you're more apt to
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: win the game the to.
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  Speaker 1: The touts say you do get points for being home
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  Speaker 1: to the Sharps.
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  Speaker 3: But you just say you get three from being used
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  Speaker 3: to be That's what I've two and a half. But
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  Speaker 3: I think it varies based on the game. I think
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  Speaker 3: Alex just made a really good point, like mile High
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  Speaker 3: is worth more than three.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the dever has all home games, so well, back
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  Speaker 1: to speaking of buying apparel, Chester in Portland's on the phone.
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  Speaker 3: What's up Chester, what's going on?
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  Speaker 10: Guys, how you doing good? Today's my birthday. I took
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  Speaker 10: the day off.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, happy birthday, Happy birthday on your birthday.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, nine to eleven. Never forget right, right, you know,
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  Speaker 10: But I'm loving to buy apparel of revival. You know
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  Speaker 10: it's about eleven years. I think that came around right
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  Speaker 10: after the wear on the Cincinnati week, if I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 10: I was, but it was so fired up about getting
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 10: back onto it. But it's just real quick. It's a
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 10: tough loss on Sunday, you know, But this hyperbole is
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 10: out my nerves and I think on many with the
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 10: you know, people thinking that this team doesn't have it,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 10: I just want to say this. You know, first of all,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 10: you know Chris with the scf U in LA, you
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 10: know enough with that doom and gloom. You know a
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 10: lot of us are really trying to get excited about football.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 10: I mean, all off season were collectively forecasting this year
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 10: is being several seasons away from playoff caliber.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: And you know, for me, not the national guys. Yeah,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: national guys are looking at eleven or twelve wins playoffs.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, Paul. But you know, those of us to
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 10: watch this team, I think we really know you know
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 10: the holes that need to be plugged over time. Yeah,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 10: I agree, right, I mean you see the holes when
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 10: you look at the team up post. I mean, you know,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 10: every day I'm watching and see what's going on. I'm
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 10: happy to see a good first half though, you know,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 10: it's something to build on. The second half was crap,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 10: but I was really happy to see them at least,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 10: you know, fighting in that first half. I think there's
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 10: a lot of great tape that they can learn from
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 10: and move forward, you know, but go in this weekend.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 10: It's gonna be tough, but I think we can really
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 10: take down Miami if Drake can just get it crapped
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 10: together and get our target with some thros here. We
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 10: we really really need him to deliver. But you know,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 10: time for this team to really tap into the head
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 10: coach and get gritty, get out there and fight. Let's
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 10: just switch the fish to me at twenty three seventeen
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 10: seems to be if we can pull this off. The
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 10: score but let's book that buy apparel, baby, Let's get
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  Speaker 10: a win, all right?
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Chester.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: So Alex, that was a very low key, dude subdued
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: version of it, but like you feel like, you know,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: squish the fairs by apparel that that's I appreciate.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: The really like level headed optimism.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: Though yeah, the only pushback I would say is like
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: really and he and he addressed it, ches to address it.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: It's like Christian in La who we kind of think
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: is really he's embracing us, He's embracing the heel turning,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: and it's actually been very funny. I think he's been funny.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's been a lot of gloom and
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: doom like it's over talk.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: I don't read all the emails.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: I know, Okay, that's a good point.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: There's a lot.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: That's why I haven't heard as much of it.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: I don't know if there's a lot of sentiment that
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 6: it's already over. But there's definitely a lot of negativity.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 6: I think, oh, expectations, who are just waiting.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: But how can you not have negativity based off of
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: that second half?
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 6: Now we're all upset, and not just the second half,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: but like you and me walking into work at the
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: same time, I think, what was it Tuesday morning after
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: that Monday night game and we were just like watching
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: Baltimore in Buffalo or Sunday night, Yeah, yep.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: Where we were just like damn.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: It just reminds you how far we are, how much
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: more talent we need, kind of going back to like
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: if Tyreek Hill became available today and would we want him,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 6: it still wouldn't be enough.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: There's still so much that needs to be addressed.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Yep, Franklin and Baltimore. Contrary to what the emailer said,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Fred's thoughts about the game are unfounded optimism.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: In fact, if the Patriots can grab a two score
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: lead early, I expect Dolphins to unravel and implode into
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: a pile of star kissed tuna cans as Tua throws
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: yet another bad interception. Squish the fish in LFG pats
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: all right, Franklin and Baltimore.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: All right, So with that, I would just say this,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: and I agree. I think this is a very plausible
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: scenario that can unfold. I think if the Patriots get
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: off to a good start, Miami can do it. But
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: you're not necessarily doing anything about the Patriots. It's more
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: about Miami. And that's what I think Todd's point was,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: like unfounded optimism, it's because you think the other team
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: is a train wreck right now. That's what kind of
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: worries me, like, what happens if Miami isn't a train
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: wreck on Sunday? What if they show up to play?
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the embarrassing Week one, you know, but
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: I think both teams.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: My unfounded optimism isn't just because of Miami. If we're
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: playing the Chiefs, that would have guaranteed to win. I
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: just think we're gonna win.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 6: I don't think it's unfounded because I think you have
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 6: great intuition. But then I might pull back after the
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 6: Chiefs comment.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: Just realized that he was going to say they're going
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: to win no matter what, and he realized.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: Theounded comes in, right, Yeah, it's it's not based on anything.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: You know, alex Is won and oh picking Patriots games
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: no one else can do.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: That's true, Tom and New Jersey.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: I took some heat.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: You got to stance, I'm you know. Famously, back in
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: the PFW days when the Border war was at its highest,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: Mike g Reece, who was a member of our team
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: at that time. He wasn't with ESPN, he was working
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: for US, picked the Jets to win in the paper
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: and he caught shrapnel on the team plane from players yep.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: Henry Thomas, I heard you did a bad thing, little man.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: It was very lighthearted. It was very lighthearted.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they know what really was mean to it.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: So we did get we got some static. Week two
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: of eight, Matt Castle's first start was at the Metal
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: Lands against the Jets, and at the time, Mike Parenti
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: was here. I was here, and Andy Hart was here,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: and we all picked the Jets and the Patriots went
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: down and won, and we're getting on the bus to
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: come back to the airport to come home, and we
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: used to be on at the time. Was bus four,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: I remember, Freddy. Now it's like seventeen buses. I don't know.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: Bus four was you know, media relations, content like us,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: you know the video crew, you know support staff. So
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: the support staff is more like football. They're all in
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: the back and they were given us the business and
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: like and it was not lighthearted. Was not lighthearted. I'm
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: not gonna get into that. I'll tell you off air, though.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: And I've since sort of mended fences with this one person.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: But I turned around. They were really giving Mike Parenti
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: and it was Mike's first year, so it's basically the
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: second game that Mike was with and he was like
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: really offended by I said, hey, said, we got it wrong.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: We made it, we made a bad pick, and he goes, yeah,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: he goes, it was a really bad one. I go, yeah,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: you know what. The last time I got one wrong
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: was the Super Bowl last year. I didn't remember you
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: guys making fun of me about that one. That was
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: the undefeated season. Silence. There was silence after that because
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: I picked the Patriots to beat the Giants and go undefeated.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: I didn't hear anybody making fun of me for getting
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: that one wrong. Like what's the difference?
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: And then and we ended up sort of he apologized that.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: Like this was like a year later, Like he's like,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: you know, I was out of line, and I go, yeah,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: I know. It's like there was no need for it.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: And like poor Mike, it's like his second game ever,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: and he's like, is this what happens? I never ever
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: not picked the Patrick. Is that what happens?
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: And that was the only time that ever happened. In fairness,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: you know, Bill used to have a little snarky comments
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: once in a while, but not like that. This was
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: they were they were like, let.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: Us have it. Yeah, I remember Pete Carroll's first year, Uh,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: the Jets beat us and we put on the cover
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: the Jets quarterback. It was Foley right, what was his name,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: Matt And I'm a motivational and uh yeah, we had
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: him and Broadway Foe, you know, play on Broadway.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: Joe friend used to come up with some really good headlines.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: And and so I got back the Ark. I got
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: a call and at that time we were I was
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: working in Boston at the office and because there was
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: no there was no room at the old Stadium, and
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll called me. It's like, you know what it's
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: like here when it comes to the Jets. That was chickens,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: you know, putting him on the cover. So I went
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: down there and I met with him in person, and
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: we became actually pretty good friends after that.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: But like I didn't really understand he was upset. I
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: didn't really understand Pete's u anger, you know, I knew that,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: like he had some things with the Jets. Obviously that's
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: the whole thing when Parcels left and that's that was
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: the real boy.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: Well, he was told whatever you do, don't lose to.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: The like, how are we supposed to put a cover
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: together after losing a game without the other team being
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: on the you know what, even like, yeah, I didn't
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: really well, I you know, it.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: Was just that quartering that a team kind of rubbing
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: it in. He thought.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe I didn't think. I didn't look at it that
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: way at all. Yeah, but he did, No, I know
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: he did. I just think that he was a little
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: out of line.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: Because it wasn't the Globe or the Herald writing.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the team's own paper kind of rubbing
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: it in.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: But again, like you have to say what happened in
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: the game, And I don't think Fred's cover was out
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: of line, even though that that was before me, so
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have talked you out of it if I
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: had been here. I think that was a good cover.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: Shakespeare, Tom and New Jersey just curious. Curious with Gonzalez's
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: injury happening in the off season, it seems easier to
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: sweep it under the rug and not really ever address it,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: while in season injuries are talked about more and addressed
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: to the public. Why does it depend on the individual
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: due to hippo laws.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: I don't think Dallas's injury didn't happen in the off
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: season happened in training camp.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: Well that's off season. No, it's not. Well, I know
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: what he means. I don't think regular season.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think he thinks he I don't know. Maybe
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: I was putting words in the mod I thought he
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: was saying suggesting he came into training camp with an injury. No,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: I think he's Bailey practice.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: I think he meant it didn't happen during the regular season.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: I don't really like that's no difference. Yeah, people are
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: talking about it.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: See, I do think there's a difference between off season, right, like,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: because you don't know what happened.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing. The preseason, you don't see the
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: actual play or the injury.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 6: Like maybe a couple of videos got out of it,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 6: but we saw and remember, Yeah, whereas if it happens
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 6: in a game on national television.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: So I would agree with his premise, do you know
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, sometimes guys get hurt working out
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: on their own and they're on pup to start training
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: camp or NFI or something like that, and there isn't
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: as much talk about it because you don't know what happened.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: This happened what we were there, We saw it, and
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: we saw him running across the field. I think he
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: was chasing Diggs on the play, and all of a
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: sudden you just reached back and grabbed his hamstring. First
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: day in pads, First day in pads. Yeah, yep, so,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: but no, I don't.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: Think anyone's sweeping the injury under the rug.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: No, it's the contrary. People are really concerned about it.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the biggest storyline and they're.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: Talking about Everyone knows it's a hamstring. It's not like
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: a leg. We know it's a hamstring, and it's just
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: a matter of.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: When he'sressed it several times.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric has been holding on for a while. What's up, Eric,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: I hope you didn't miss class.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 11: Uh No, what's up guys? So, uh, just a straightforward
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 11: question for you, guys, what do you identify as Miami's
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 11: lead points on defense? And then how would you use
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 11: Traveon Henderson to exploit that. I'll take your answer off
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 11: the air, squish the fish.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the secondary, that's the weak point of the defense.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: I think the front seven for Miami, at least on paper,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: isn't bad, but the secondary is in complete shambles. I
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: don't know necessarily how Travon Henderson would factor into that.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: But I do think what Mike and Evan talked about
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: in the immediate aftermath of the game was, yes they
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: had they had plenty of touches and plenty of involvement
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: for Henderson, but maybe see if they can get a
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: you know, get them isolated on a linebacker on a
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: wheel route, get him downfield, maybe you can get a
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: big play out of it that way.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: All right, it's uh, I lost track of time. Mike
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: is back from the locker room. We got to do picts.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: It's that time of the week career room.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: Nice mix, Matt, that was.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: But so while I get this up on my computer, Mike,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: why don't you tell us what's going on in the
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: locker room.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah it was just a quick obviously, but her from
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: Robert Spallane, Matt Collins and Will Campbell and uh just say,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: Will Campbell very serious And I just I liked his
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: vibe today. It seemed like he's uh just locked in
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: and love it.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: I love him. He's quickly becoming my favorite player.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: Just short answers, and you know, I just like I
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: liked his I can't have a favorite.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: Player, No, I just think it's I think you're you're cute.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: Roberts play is funny. I think they asked him. They're
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: like some of the guys talking about going in the
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: sauna a little bit to get ready for the heat.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: And he's like, I always go on the sauna.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: Know he's I love it.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: I do love his voice.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys caught him. He was
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 6: on Edelman's podcast with Matt Light and it was.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: Still what I've seen there, you know, interesting interested in me.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: I figured to help me prepare and get to know
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: our room.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 10: But you know what a.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: Good following do your job.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 6: You inspired me with that quick comment you had about hey,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 6: I picked you guys doing in the super Bowl.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: Like that's a comment you make Like I would.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 6: Have walked away from that interaction and been like I
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: should have said this.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: That would have been an awesome George.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: Right away said sometimes you get him wrong. You're the
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: last one I got exactly like that super Bowl last year.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: I didn't hear you say to that.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: You know that's Mike drop Well the jerks.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: You all right, yeah, yeah, that's pretty much. I mean
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: Mac Collins talked a little bitt and he played for Miami.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: So I actually asked him a question, just you were
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: in this Miami offense a little bit. I know it's
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: changed with mc collins, some principles with TUA, and I
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: had a pretty good answer just about how you detailed
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: it is and timing and those kind of things. So yeah,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: good day. Saw Carl l Andry briefly walk through and
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: then disappeared, but didn't really look like it a limp
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: or wrap or anything like that. So yeah, I'm not
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: sure we'll see if he if he goes out there.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: Practice all right, So we're gonna have to buzz through
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: this because I started late. No buys this week, so
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: it's a full slate. We'll start tonight eight fifteen on Prime.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: Last Face. I'm getting ahead of myself.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to give the flowers to Alex.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes, she knows. I didn't know.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: I knew I did well.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: Hair flip fourteen and two. Wow for Alex, that's no
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: messing around. Freddy as always with a feel for the weak. Yeah,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: thirteen and three, My good job, twelve and four, and
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: then then the stiffs chime in. Evan nine and seven,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: Paul eight and eight. Oh boy, I'm just pathetic. Yeah,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: oh no, that's that that's that's horrific. I mean eight
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: and eight. Just picking winners was horrific with the spread.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: Alex nine and seven, the only one above the Mendos,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: Mike and Fred eight and eight, Paul and Evans six
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: and ten. That's what happens when you come out of
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: the gate with a whole bunch of upsets. That almost happened,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: almost get.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: I had some Chargers beating the chiefs. Yeah, that's an
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: upset right out of the gate. Okay, right out of
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: the gate.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: A good job, all right.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: I want my I want my flowers.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: To shout out Justin's hot girlfriends.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: All right tonight eight point fifteen Prime Video. The one
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: and OH Commanders are at the one and O Packers.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: Green Bay by three and a half.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: By three and a half. Yeah, good in Green Bay.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: And I just wonder if they can keep it going
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: here on a short week. I like them at home,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna take the hook for Washington. I think
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: it's a close game.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: I agree with you. I was pretty impressed with Green Bay.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 4: I'll do the same thing.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, Green Bay, and you're taking the points Washington. Uh,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: let's see. I will take Green Bay to win, and
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: I guess I'm gonna stay on that train Green Bay.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: I'll take the hook Green Bay both ways.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: People not a lock, but you know, yeah, all right,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna pick with Alex Picks.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: We move over to Sunday one o'clock on CBS. The
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: oh to one Browns are at the oh to one
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: Ravens Baltimore by eleven and a Hey, that's a lot
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: of points.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Baltimore, god of, they're coming out
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: to prove something, right, but it's a division game. That's
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: a lot of points for a division game. And we
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: saw Cleveland play close last week with the as I'm
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: gonna do the same thing I did. I'm gonna take Baltimore,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna say it's a little closer than that points.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna do the same thing as at eleven and
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 6: a half falls always too big of a spread.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah again, I'm gonna stay stay with that line of thought.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: Too many points, and I don't think cleve. Cleveland's defense
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: is pretty good. I don't think Cleveland's a train wreck
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: like everybody thinks.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: But we love Joe.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: I do love Joe Flacco. It's kind of root for
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: Oh sure, yeah, I liked him when when everybody else
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: was making fun of him Championship correct, I was like, yes.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: Ravens win, but give me those points, give me those points.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: Brown's cover one o'clock, CBS the the one, and oh
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: Jaguars are at the one and.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: O Bengals, Uh Cincinnati by three and a hey, I
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: thought it was interesting, Liam Cohen, like going through shot.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: I shot all the throws that Trevor Lawrence could have
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: hit Brian Thomas on. I'm gonna go Cincinnati. I will
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: lay the points.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: This is one of the tougher ones for me. But
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 4: m hm, no, Burr, I know Jody be my guy.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 4: Cincinnati Cincinnati.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: So this is the first one I'm gonna leave the train.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Cincinnati to win, but I'm gonna be
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: uh with that hook again with Jacksonville. I agree with
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: William Cohen. I think uh Trevor Lawrence did not play
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: his best game in that one, and I don't think
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: Cincinnati's defense is as good as it looked in Week one.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: So I'll take the Jags to keep it close.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Jags to win this outright, folks.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: I think that could happen. That's a good upset.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna Trevor Lawrence, my candidate more careful after my
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: ridiculous opening candidate for Offensive Player of the Year. Watch
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: Fox one o'clock ohen one Giants at the oh to one, Cowboys.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: Dallas by four and a half.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen the Giants made a quarterback switch. I
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: know that was maybe pending, but they did not.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: Matter of fact, he said definitively. No Monday, No, we did.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, Sorry, I'm.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: Gonna alice he's changed.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: That's why I don't think so.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything since Monday.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with Dallas. That is a little bit
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: more points than i'd like to lay, but I'll lay
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: off for a four and a half.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: Four and a half.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll lay the four and a half Cowboys, Cowboys.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna stick with the same.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: I guess every game so far. I'll take Dallas to win,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: but I will take the four and a half with
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: the Giants.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: Paul is correct. Cowboys win, but they do not cover.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 3: This is how you end up six and ten. Take
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: upset after upset after upset, and they're all going to
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: be this close to happening, and none of them is
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: going to happen.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: Uh one o'clock on Fox. The ohen one Bears are
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: at the oh and one.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: Lions Destois by six.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, this is a good, good, interesting game. I'm
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: gonna take Detroit to win at home, but I'm gonna
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: give Ben Johnson those points. I think he'll have a
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: little something as guys will want to play for him.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think they have quite enough, but I think
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: they keep it close.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the Troy is a little concerning with all the
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 6: brain power they lost, which I didn't really factor in
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 6: in week.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: One, yet you still won.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 4: I don't think that I didn't. That was a rare game.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not wrong.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 4: That do sound so Braddy. But I will take Detroit,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: and I will take Detroit and I will take Chicago
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 4: to cover.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do the same thing. I liked a
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: lot of what I saw from Chicago and in the
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: first half. I just think they need to figure out
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: how to I think Ben Johnson's number one task is
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: to figure out how to make Caleb Williams sort of
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: understand the need to stay with it, you know, don't
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: drift in and out you know when things go bad.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: That's the number one problem. Has got nothing to do
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: with a bill. What he's got nothing to do with
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: his you know, aptitude for offense. It's his attitude and
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: that's the number one thing that Ben Johnson has to do.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna take Lions both ways. We're gonna see
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: a resurgence of that defense of for the Lions because
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: remember they were decimated by injuries last year. That's kind
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: of what kept them back and I think they're going
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: to be playing with a chip on their shoulder that defense.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: So they're gonna give Caleb Williams and the Bears a
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: tough time Tomorrow Sunday, one o'clock on Fox, the one
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  Speaker 1: to oh forty nine ers? Do we know who the
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: quarterback is? Jack Jones against the Saints oh and one?
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  Speaker 3: Oh I'm sorry, Niners by three.
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  Speaker 2: By three on the roads.
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  Speaker 1: This is a pick them.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: Oh boy, Mac, we'll be uh. I'm gonna take New
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: Orleans for the upset and I'll take them at home
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: plus three? Please, sorry, Mac, you.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: Think you brought party with out quarterbacking? It would be
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: more than three?
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 6: Well, yes, well, I don't know when our lines came
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 6: out on our little sheet here.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 4: But it was San Francisco minus six and a half.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was before Mac Jones and his quarterbackers
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: worth three and a half.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 4: Definitely, that's a definite.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 3: That's what Evans idol.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: Or maybe it isn't this fourteen and two. Maybe you
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: should do some research.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 3: Maybe no research. He be working on the fives.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 14: He's just five.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: Instagram.
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  Speaker 4: Gotta hurry San Francisco, Francis.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: So I thought for sure that I would be the
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: snarky one. Yeah, I cannot take a team that Mac
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: Jones quarterbacks. So I'll take the loss if it happens,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: but I'll take the Saints to win out right, Like Mike, I.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: Just think the Saints have still a lot of wor
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: team in football. Christian, I'm not the Saints. I mean
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers have a lot of talent. Christian
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey's healthy, right, Okay, Yeah, he played well in the
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: first Yeah, so I'm gonna go with the forty nine
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: ers to overcome any deficiencies that they might have. One
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: o'clock on CBS, the one and zero Bills are at
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: the zero.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: To one Jets Buffalo by six and a half.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds that sounds about right to me. I'm
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: gonna take Buffalo for sure. And uh yeah, I'm gonna
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: stout to la the points six and a half Bill's Bills.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is tough. Jets played well last week or
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: they were competitive.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm definitely taking the points. I'll take Buffalo to
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: win the game. I do think the Jets could win
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: this game outright. I think Buffalo has a hard time
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: in New York. Sometimes very emotional win on a Sunday
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: night that probably didn't even start thinking about the Jets
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: until like Wednesday. But I'll take Buffalo to win.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bills fans, watch your fingers. That windows coming down fast.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't the Jets. I'd picked an outright loss
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: for the Bills. But they don't lose. They win, but
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: they do not cover Fox one o'clock. The Owen one
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: Seahawks are at the one and oh Steelers Pittsburgh by three.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: Four touchdowns for Aaron Rodgers last week.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, looks like he'd like dk out all that good
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 3: in the game. And I started watching some of those
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 3: highlights and I'm listening to some of the analysis. He
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 3: had four touchdowns but kind of didn't move well in
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: the pocket even he said that. Imagine how bad he
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 3: must have been for him to admit it.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so rematch the Super Bowl forty. I believe I'm
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: gonna take Yeah, I'm gonna take Pittsburg. I'm gonna take Pittsburgh.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: I'll take care Rodgers all oy the points.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Pittsburghitsburgh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think uh, I think Pittsburgh gets this one
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 3: done too. Yeah, I'll take Pittsburgh both ways.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I have about as much reason to make this
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: call as they do with the Patriots. But I'm gonna
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: have the Seahawks winning this outright. So there you go.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: One o'clock CBS, The one and oh Rams are at
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: the oh to one Titans the.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: Lar by five and a half, Lar by five and
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: a half. Yeah, things were kind of messy down there
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: in Tennessee. I just I don't know about Matthew Stafford.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take the Rams, but I'm gonna take
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: a plucky Tennessee team for the point. So to keep close.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: The Lar in Tennessee five and a half, five and.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 4: Ahead half all right, retweet.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: That means the same thing.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: I get it, I get it. I'm going to take
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: them sorry, I'm gonna take the Rams both ways. I
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: do think Tennessee showed something. I think they weren't. They're
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 3: not They're not ready to win that game despite all
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: the help that they they got from Denver. But a
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: lot of drops for the Titans in that game. Cam
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: Wood actually played reasonably well. The stats will tell you
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: he was miserable, but he played pretty well.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: I saw. Yeah, that spread is simply to bring in
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: Titans money. So I'm going to have the Rams winning
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: but not covering. You're going to stand that pot.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: So it worked. Yeah, yeah, the spread enticed you into
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: doing it.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're going to skip over the Patriots at one
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: o'clock and we're gonna move to four oh five. The
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: oh to one Panthers are at the one and oh Cardinals.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: Really disappointing opener for Carolina. Arizona by six and a half. Yeah,
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: I like that.
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  Speaker 2: On the road, I'm gonna take Arizona. I'm gonna lay
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: those points.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 4: Arizona Arizona.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 3: So I am going to take Arizona to win, but
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 3: I will take the points.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 3: With Carolina, I think they're a little bit better than
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 3: they showed. It was one of those weak ones. They
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 3: just didn't have it, you know, weird weather delay in
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 3: the middle of the game. Bryce Young was terrible a
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: couple hours, wasn't it. So I'll take I'll take the points.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, I'm gonna take the points as well.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: Cardinals win at home four oh five cbs. The one
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: in o Broncos in a rare road game are at
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: the Colts one and oh oh.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 3: Sorry Denver by one and a half.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: When you're staid and study like the Broncos, we're like, well,
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: we're never gonna be able to see him because they
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: only playing We're not to go to Denver togainn.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: It's a good matchup though. I think these are two
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: you know, plucky teams right now, especially you know Bonnicks,
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: and I just I can't buy quite into Daniel Jones.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with Denver mostly on their defense,
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: and I'll lay those with two and a halfs one
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: half lay the one and a half.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel the same way as Deuce. I gotta
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 4: see more of Daniel Jones with Indy.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with I'm with you, guys. A big believer
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 3: in the Broncos defense. I think it'll be a little
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: bit tougher, but I do think Indy's better and I
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: think Daniel Jones might might be okay there. I agree
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 3: with Evans talk about Shane Steichen and they could be
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 3: a good fit. But I'll take Denver defense is too good.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: I'm tempted to take the Colts, but I will take
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: Denver in the game. But I have a feeling about
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: this and I'm going to be really wrong. This is
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: the only one. This could be my one loss for
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: the week, four for one for us for twenty five Fox,
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: we want to know Eagles are at the zero to one.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 3: Chiefs Philly by one and a half.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: Why is this game? Why isn't this the Sunday night game?
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: This is a Super Bowl rematching? Wait to hear the
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: Sunday I know I can't wait, uh man. I I'm
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: gonna go with Philly on the road and this one.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: I I haven't given up on the Chiefs. I still
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: think they're really dangerous and they just got to get healthy.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: But right now, early this season, they ain't quite ready
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: to do it. I got Philly too much talent.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 4: Philly, Philly.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take Kansas City at home. I like the
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 3: Chiefs when no one thinks they're gonna win.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's too early for that, Paul, No.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: I just but I mean it's been I know what
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 3: you're saying. I mean everyone this year they don't win.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: I know they only lost. They lost their second game
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: in Week eighteen. Last year, they're gonna have two losses
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: after two weeks. I like Kansas City when no one
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: thinks they're gonna win.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take the Eagles. I think Hurts look
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: now great. I only saw the first half, but I
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: think Hurtz looks like even better.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 3: I think, for some reason, I think Hurts is really
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 3: good commersonally, I think.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: I think he's so. I think the Eagles beat the
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: Chiefs in Kansas City. All right, Now we go to
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: the Sunday night game eight twenty. Uh. This is a
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: dynamite matchup the zero to one Falcons at the one
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: and oh Vikings this week. Yeah.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: The only thing that could have been worse is if
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: they could have found a division game. So Minnesota by
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: three and a half.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: The battle of the mid round quarterbacks from last year
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: mid first rounders, right, yeah, this is another I think
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: these teams are pretty evenly matched with some good talent
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: on both teams. I'm gonna go with J. J. McCarthy
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: and the Minnesota Vikings at home, and I'm gonna you
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: know what, what do you say the show was? I'm
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: sorry three and a half to listen three and I'm
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: gonna take the hook for Atlanta. I think it's a
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: it's a really tight one.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Minnesota both ways. Looking at how much
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 4: time you have to make this decision.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta hurry.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to take Minnesota because I'm so far behind.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: They can't afford to go so against the culture, but
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: I'll take it. I'll take Atlanta. I'm embarrassed.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: He's desperate and feel I've lost like every year.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: I'm like the Patriots and the Dolphins. I'm desperate in
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 3: week two, by the way, I'm embarrassed.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Vikings win. I'm tempted to go both ways, but
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: I'll take the points.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: Here Minnesota and Atlanta.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 6: You go.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where are you? They gonna clean up this week
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: or ride or die for all behind Monday Monday Night.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: These stupid double headers, Oh, I love them. Not when
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: the second one starts at ten at night.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 3: I don't watch that one.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: I know seven.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: Now I can watch the seven o'clock I did not
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 3: have to go to all right.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: I'd rather have both of them start at the same
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: time and let me go back and forth.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 3: I be interested, I'd be interested in what you're selling.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: But one of them is a West Coast game. But anyway,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: so at seven o'clock, the seven o'clock game is on ESPN,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: ABC and ESPN Deportes. It's the one o'clock clock, the
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: one and oh Buccaneers led by Baker. They're at the
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: Texans that are zero and.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 3: One, Houston by two and a half.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: I didn't get a good beat on what Houston's result
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: was this last week. I don't know.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 3: They lost fourteen to nine.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, right, right, right, And so in one
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: this is another tough one. Feel like to kind of
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: evenly match teams with similar questions. I'll go with the
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: team with the better quarterback. I believe in C. J. Stroud,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: and I'll lay the two and a half points.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 3: Fighting words for Freddy.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take the upset here.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: I am going to take Houston both ways. I think
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 3: that defense will make life difficult on the Bucks.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm going to just go with
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: Baker as the league's better with him in it. Ten
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: o'clock at night here on the East Coast ESPN. ESPN
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: deportes that one to no Chargers are against the one
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: to oh Raiders.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 3: H Charges by three. Did I miss the Universo for
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 3: the Sunday now there.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: Was no Universe? Did I not say univers I might have.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: I might have not said what games the on? I
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: just I always like the Universe, NBC and univers H.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: I got a lot of respect for how the Raiders
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: played last week and how they knocked the Patriots off.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: But I thought Justin Herbert just looked phenomenal, and I
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: think that team is peaking. So I'm gonna take the
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: Chargers and I'll lay the point the three points.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 3: Chargers Chargers, Yeah, I I would sort of go opposite
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: a deuce. I I like the Charges both ways.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 12: Uh.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 3: If I thought the Vegas came in here and did
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 3: something special, I'd be like, oh, maybe we underestimated them.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 3: I kind of think they were what we thought they were.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: The Patriots weren't what I thought they were, and that's
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: why they lost but I.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: Think might have played a little better than that.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 3: You know, it definitely played better than I thought, but
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 3: really nothing else. I mean a lot of penalties of mistakes. Ye.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: At one point I said, Raiders being Raiders.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hitting guys out of bounds.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: The Raiders employees didn't care for that.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: Chargers, I love just the way justin.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going with Charges both ways too, and that Justin
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: he did play really well. Right now, we go back
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: to Sunday at one, Uh, the Patriots are at the
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: and one Dolphins.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: Uh, the Dolphins by one and a half, so the
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 3: really underdogs.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, yep, that is correct.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take New England. It's just it's got
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: to be a little magic and there's got to be
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: a little something maybe unexpected from them, surprising shutting down
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: to it would be that. But just a you know,
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: a solid day from Drake, may get some ramondre Stevenson yards,
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: get Travon in space, and just Drake take the profit
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: and maybe make a couple throws down the end. I
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: like New England to pull it out, have a big game.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say twenty two twenty one I described it
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 2: too with Paul. They go for two. At the end,
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: they come back, they score field goal to tie it,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: to to win, they go for two. You heard it
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: here for it first, folks.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: He gave me.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: He gave me a little excitement.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 4: New England twenty seven, Miami twenty one.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, can't do it. I just had too many games
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 3: down there that were automatic Patriot wins. It's not the
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 3: first time this has happened. I gotta think Miami has
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 3: at least some semblance of pride, and they show up
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 3: to play, and if they do, I think they win
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 3: twenty seven to sixteen.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: What if the Patriot show up to win, to play,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 3: The Patriots will show up to play.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: I think they showed up to play Sunday. Yeah. I
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 3: wouldn't question the Patriots efforts Sunday against the Raiders at all.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: So I think if both teams show up up to play,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: I think the Patriots are the better team.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, I don't. Okay, that's why I did Miami, But
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 3: I don't think. I think there's a good chance Miami
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 3: doesn't show up to play. Okay, And you'll be right, Yeah,
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 3: what's your score?
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: Patriots win? As I said on Tuesday, thirty one seventeen,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: they break the thirty point snide you.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 3: If the Patriots win, you will be right. There's no
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 3: way it's going to be a close game. And the
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 3: Patriots with the Patriots are either gonna blow them out
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 3: or Miami is gonna blow And that's.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: What I think what's gonna happen. They're gonna they're gonna
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: start fast, and they're gonna never look.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: Back with you imagine.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 3: I think if the Patriots win, that's the formula.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we got it done. Thanks everyone for
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