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#115 - Joesf D. Glaude - Musician/Songwriter · The Chris and Mike Show

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  OK, so I can't hear the music Michael is playing.
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  Is it on the live button I put I fixed.
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  That OK, there it is. We can't hear it though.
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  I know everybody. Yeah.
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  I'll put it in. What's up there, boys and girls?
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  This is the Chris and Mike. So I'm Chris.
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  He's Mike. Our special guest today is
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  Joseph. He's a rock'n'roll musician.
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  How? Joseph?
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  How the heck are you, man? Yeah.
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  I'm doing pretty good actually. It's been a good day so far.
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  Thank you for coming on the show, Joseph.
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  I'm super excited to have a musician on here so.
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  Actually I've been enjoying your your YouTube videos.
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  So. Oh, right on.
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  Thank you very much. Yeah, he.
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  Has been following us on YouTube and Instagram for quite a while,
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  so thank you for that. On Instagram, you're talking to
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  me, on YouTube, you're talking to him.
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  So from both of us, thank you very much.
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  And so give give our listeners and our viewers a little bit of
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  a story about who you are, what you do, and all that kind of fun
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  stuff, my friend. OK, we're going to tell you I'm
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  a musician, I teach. I tore COVID sort of blew the
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  sails out of that and trying to get back on the on the road
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  again. What?
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  Kind of touring musician, your own music.
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  Are you original? Material.
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  OK, I do studio work. I actually played for an
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  orchestra for a while. Guitar.
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  Mandolin. And I would like to say not to
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  interrupt you, but I equally enjoy following you.
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  That's why we know each other so well, because I enjoy all your
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  videos and your tidbits about music and those things are very
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  inspirational to me. So thank you very much on my
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  behalf as well. You're welcome.
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  So, but yeah, just, you know, music has always been been a
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  part of my life from time I was a kid, You know, I was born at
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  the time when they used to sing the bass, you know, the priest
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  would come out and sing what we were doing.
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  My grandfathers were both musicians, so.
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  So yeah, just after I heard The Beatles, I knew I wanted to be a
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  musician. It was Elvis who made me want to
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  play guitar. I didn't realize it was actually
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  Scotty Moore, but I thought Elvis was just totally badass.
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  Absolutely, we all did. OK, OK, So you just dropped
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  something that I didn't know. So Elvis didn't play the guitar.
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  He. Played rhythm, but Scotty Moore
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  played all those licks that everybody knows and loves from
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  those songs like Jailhouse Rock and Hound Dog.
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  The cool guitar parts were all a guy named Scotty Moore because
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  you always had a lead guitar player, right?
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  Yeah, right. Usually the guy standing up
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  front is your rhythm player. That's not always the case, but
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  traditionally he's the rhythm player.
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  That was Elvis. But you know when you watch the
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  comeback special, the 68 comeback special, man Elvis tore
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  it up. He was a great guitar player.
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  That's why I want to be careful to say, yes, Elvis played
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  guitar, but Joseph's right that that was Scotty Moore playing
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  all those cool licks on the. Album the comeback specials when
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  it was the one where he's like kind of in like a round.
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  Yeah, OK. Black leather suit.
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  Right, right. OK.
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  That's what I thought. Yeah, yeah.
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  There's a little bit every now and then.
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  I've seen little tidbits of the of behind the scenes from that.
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  I remember my mother watching it.
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  When Elvis died, they played it again on NBC or CBS and you
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  know, everybody was so sad. But that was the one that they
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  played was the comeback special in the black leather suit.
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  So I remember seeing that as a little kid.
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  I was supposed to see Elvis in 77 when he died.
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  My family was in Maine. I had tickets and we were in St.
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  Francis, ME when we heard that the King had died.
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  And I remember Mom and Dad pulled over the side of the road
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  and my mother started crying. And I was just like, I just, I
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  couldn't, I couldn't imagine it, you know?
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  Elvis is gone. And so for and so for the for
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  the young, the youth that listens to us, wrap your head
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  around this concept. There was no social media when
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  Elvis was alive, No. There was.
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  Nothing there was fairly records right and.
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  He and he was right, and he was known around the world.
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  I mean, that death impacted everybody around the world
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  because it was everybody knew who he was or knew the name,
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  whereas now, you know. So you know what's what's crazy
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  is when I've toured now, I I I give online lessons.
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  I've got students in India. Really.
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  Yeah, it's crazy. I got a banjo student in India.
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  Right on. And he asked me, I've got these
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  people asking me if I can teach him Elvis music.
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  Still nice. Yeah.
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  What what amazes me is so many of my students, young kids,
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  we're talking like 15/16/17, they want to learn music from
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  the Sixties, 70s and 80s. I kind.
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  Of yeah. And I could kind of see that
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  because music back then was it was it was, it was.
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  I don't want to slam it, but it was more genuine, right?
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  You, you, you, yeah. You had to pick up the
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  instrument of play. It wasn't all computerized and
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  like the crap you can do now. AIO you see these ads pop up?
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  Oh, hear yourself sing Alice and change your own voice.
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  No, not to. Interrupt you, Chris, but I like
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  where you went with this. Let me ask you this, Joseph,
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  because for the ladies and gentlemen who are listening,
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  Joseph is a real musician. He understands music theory.
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  He teaches you what you need to know.
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  I play by ear and I know what people want to hear, but I don't
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  know why, right? I couldn't explain a lot of the
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  theory behind it. I just want people to
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  understand. That's what fascinates me about
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  you, as you understand the theory and can teach it.
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  Would you not say that with all the digital, the advent of the
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  digital age, all this quantizing, you know, snapping
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  it to the grid takes away from the feel of the music, Correct.
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  Absolutely. Absolutely.
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  It does. You know, and I tell people all
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  the time because, yes, I'm an educated musician.
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  I went to school for this. Yeah.
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  I played with an orchestra. I can tell I was a hired gun
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  back in the day. Actually wrote a book.
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  What's the book? What's the book?
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  What's the book? What's the plug?
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  Your book, Joseph. Oh, OK.
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  It's called creative guitar. You, you, you.
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  You can find it on band camp. Joseph Claude at band camp.
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  OK, so if somebody Googles your name and says creative guitar,
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  they're going to find it. Yeah.
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  OK, cool. Yeah, well, this is all about
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  you've watched this enough. Now that you know, we're
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  conversations, we're not interviewing.
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  But anytime you have something you want to share that's
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  relevant to who you are and can help promote yourself and or
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  your product, by all means man, share it.
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  Oh yeah, plug away. That's why we're here.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so creative guitar.
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  That's cool. That's cool.
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  Keep going. Keep going.
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  Yeah, it's the book discusses scales, chords, modes,
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  arpeggios, and. And I've run into too many
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  teachers. You've got the kid who can strum
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  a couple of chords, thinks he can teach, OK, He can get you
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  started, OK, But he doesn't know technique, so he's going to
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  limit his students, OK? I've got teachers who are more
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  concerned about keeping around for the next 10 years.
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  You know, I'm more interested in teaching you in such a way that
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  you can teach yourself and you're going to become a great
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  player. There's always going to be
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  someone to replace you when you. Get you going?
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  Probably 40% of the way that you can get somebody going, 90% of
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  the way, right? So I can teach somebody.
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  I know where all the notes are. I know your basic scales, your
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  basic chords. I know what it takes to control
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  an amplifier at Max volume. So I can teach you technique.
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  You know, these are all things that Chris and I have talked
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  about. There's levels of being a
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  musician, right? You start off, you're a student,
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  obviously. Then you play practice in your
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  bedroom. Like you said, Hopefully you get
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  good enough to teach yourself. Then you join a band and you're
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  playing in the basement and you might get lucky enough to play
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  some parties, right? Then you're standing at a pizza
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  joint, you know, on a Saturday night and playing for two
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  people. And then you get to the point
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  where you were, you were playing with an orchestra, right?
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  That's the real deal. You're a paid musician at that
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  point. A lot of times you're a union
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  member. That's, that's as good as it
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  gets. When you get to that point, your
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  technique has to be spot on and people don't understand what it
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  takes to control an amplifier at a very loud volume without
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  annoying everyone that's there. Right, right.
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  I tell you what was funny. And then suddenly Shorrock
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  always said you need a balance of both.
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  You need to know your theory, but you also have to have a feel
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  for the music. Correct.
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  OK, I played in an orchestra with with a guy named Joe.
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  He was a phenomenal player. You could drop a piece of music
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  in him, in front of him. He nailed it.
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  OK, I'm a slow reader. I'm just going to be honest.
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  He could just. He nailed it, pulled the page
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  away. He.
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  Couldn't play a note. He couldn't play a note.
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  He couldn't really what he just played Wow, you know that is.
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  Crazy. I know it.
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  I never understood that. How can you play it right from
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  the page but you don't internalize it?
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  And yeah, you don't retain it at all.
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  Because his brain associated muscle memory with looking at
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  those notes on that staff. Yeah.
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  Interesting. Yeah, and how sad was that?
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  Pretty sad, yeah. I just jammed for 20 minutes
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  while I was waiting, you know, we had a little transition,
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  obviously. So while Chris went and did his
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  thing, I picked up my guitar and wrote a couple songs.
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  Just came to me out of the universe, yeah.
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  Yeah, and you have to be open to that, man.
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  I tell people all the time, music theory is just a road map
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  to get somewhere. You know, I'm going to give you
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  a great Chet Atkins quote. Chet Atkins had created the
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  Nashville sound. He had created country music in,
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  in my mind, country guitar. I agree.
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  He then went to college and studied guitar.
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  The unfairness of it all is he came out better than when he
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  went in. I just think that was just not
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  cool. But so he comes out and someone
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  asks him, So what did you get from college?
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  He said. The knowledge that I could have
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  saved myself 30 years of trying. I had just gone to College in
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  the first place. We all come to the same
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  conclusions. It's out there.
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  Right. Yeah.
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  You know, but how do we get to it?
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  Sure, you know, but but yeah, you know, you know, I want my
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  students Joe Pass. I took a master class with Joe
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  Pass and we had this one guy. He was like, hey Joe, I practice
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  like 2023 1/2 hours every day. I take my food intravenously.
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  I sleep for like 12 minutes so I could just keep playing guitar.
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  And I know what just went on on about how much he practiced
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  because what can I do to get better?
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  And Joe said get a life. Put the.
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  Guitar down, go out and meet a girl.
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  Go smell the roses. Yeah, you know.
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  That was going to have a yeah experience because the the the
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  best songs are written based on an experience you've you've
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  you've shared with someone or you've gone through yourself.
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  Otherwise it's just stale and stagnant and boring.
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  That was actually the best advice I got, too.
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  I had one of my teachers tell me the same thing.
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  It's a given that you have to be able to play if you want to be
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  in a band, right? Yeah.
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  So it's the life's experiences that you're going to have to
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  draw from that's going to make you unique next to the guy who's
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  playing next to you, right? It's those experiences that make
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  you Joseph, and you, Chris and me, Mike, right?
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  Yeah. I have my own personality on a
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  guitar. I'm sure you do, too.
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  Chris has a very unique voice. People don't forget it.
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  That's why they came back. Yeah, and you know, playing
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  this, playing a song, I don't play any song.
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  I do like the original artist. I love that.
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  I'm not. I don't bend strings.
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  OK, I'm. I'm a jazz guy, you know, I'm a
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  Bender. Yeah, I'm a Bender.
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  Yeah. I use really heavy strings.
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  And we would do the song Stairway to Heaven.
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  OK, I don't do that. Cool.
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  Bam. Better I slide into it.
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  OK, There's my cheek. All right on.
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  Dude. You know, do the first.
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  Part of that again, that was badass.
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  See, I love that you stayed true to the intent, but you played it
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  your own way. Yeah, that's fantastic, man.
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  If you ever watch Jimmy Page, he does it that way, too.
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  Not not he does the dad, but I saw an interview with him.
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  He said he did not realize that he wrote an iconic riff, said
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  the first time they played that song and he didn't do the Bam
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  Bam, said the crowd was visibly disappointed.
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  Really. Absolutely, because that's the
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  that's what sucks you into the solo.
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  Yeah, so he's said that, so I'd go back along the song.
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  Says from the guy that wrote the song.
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  That's crazy. Yeah, one of the greatest ever,
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  for sure. Yeah.
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  But he did like 10 or 15 takes before he heard one that he
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  liked. Yes.
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  Yeah, that's the one we'll use. That's cool.
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  That's a good story. Yeah.
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  So. And to me, what makes it even
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  great greater is, you know, I tend to sit down and write
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  things down. I get some things.
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  I get an idea, and I'll write it in my head and I'll eventually
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  write it down on paper. OK, man, these guys and and I
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  improvise, OK. I do improvise, don't you think?
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  I don't. I go into the studio, I record
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  the song. Everything after the primary
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  melody is all just improvisation.
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  Right on. OK.
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  But man, to just go in there and just this iconic, you know, he
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  uses the, the, the pentatonic scale.
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  He's not jumping into ultra dominance.
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  He's not using Mixolydian. He's just he's doing this with
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  the pentatonic scale. I've noticed that about him too.
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  OK, so, so for those people that are listening that will and
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  watching that will listen to this, what is a pentatonic
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  scale? It's.
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  Only 5 notes instead of seven, plus the active.
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  OK, right. So the major scale is 7 notes
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  plus the octave. So we'll say you have 8 notes to
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  play with on a normal. You know what we all consider as
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  musicians? A normal scale.
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  The pentatonic scale is only 5 notes.
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  It's like the blue scale most people would call it.
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  OK, good, good. Now you referenced the studio
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  musician, all that kind of jazz. Joseph, what, what kind of how
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  long you been doing, how long you been playing guitar to begin
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  with? You kind of, we kind of didn't
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  really talk about that. I actually.
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  Got my first guitar lesson in 1973.
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  OK, I was three years old. I I.
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  Was born. I joined my first band, a punk
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  rock band called Tropical Skin Disease.
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  I love it. Yeah, in 1979.
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  And then of course, you know, I went to college, studied when I
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  was in college, you know, in the 80s, I started playing, you
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  know, in, in, in small classical groups.
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  I started learning classical guitar, OK, jazz guitar.
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  So I'd say technically I've been playing, I'd say professionally
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  since about 1980. That's awesome.
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  I got to work with bands like the Platters, got to work with
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  America, and all these guys are such really cool guys.
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  Yeah. So, so yeah, yeah, being, being
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  a, being a hired gun was a lot of fun.
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  The bad thing is there's even a movie called Hired Gun, and some
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  of these guys are bitter because they thought, well, when I'm
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  done, they're going to hire me to be with them all the time.
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  I'm going to be part of that. No, you got a paycheck bro.
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  Let me tell you a quick story, Joseph.
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  One of the saddest things I ever learned, and it was within the
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  last five, maybe 10 years, one of my favorite solos in the
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  world is the solo on Train kept a rolling from Get Your Wings by
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  Aerosmith. And that is neither Brad
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  Whitford nor Joe Perry. That's two studio musicians and
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  I cannot remember their name and everybody's screaming right now.
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  It's these two guys. I just can't remember their
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  names. But it was so sad to me because
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  I always thought that badass solo that was one of my favorite
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  ever was Joe Perry, and he just wasn't up to snuff at the time
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  to be able to cut the solo. Yeah, that's what I got hired to
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  do. A lot of times, you know, they
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  need a mandolin player, banjo player or bass player, whatever
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  they would, you know, And it's it's funny how many people came
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  in to do their song and, you know, you don't get the credit
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  and I don't care. You know, I'm, I'm.
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  But that kind of kind of a funny story with with Glenn Campbell.
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  OK, the song Rhinestone Cowboy was released before Glenn
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  Campbell, but he made it a hit. He said yeah, because I believed
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  in the song and that's what made a difference, he said.
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  I believed in the song. Just like Jimi Hendrix and All
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  Along the Watchtower, nobody knows Bob Dylan wrote that song.
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  Unless you're a big Bob Dylan fan or you're a musician, right?
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  Yeah. That's right.
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  And again, there's some songs that you know, the remake and I
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  appreciate Dylan. I love Dylan OK but man, Hendrix
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  version of lots of his version of Hey Joe, it's the definitive.
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  Version he made it his he. Made it his SO.
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  And The funny thing about about Hey Joe, every time I meet
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  somebody named Joseph, I want to be like, Hey Joe, hey.
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  And. I and I always say, I bet they
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  never heard that one, right. Let me ask you this.
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  What do you think it is? Because there we went down a
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  road where there's a lot of musicians who can play live and
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  they're good enough to do that, but when they get in the studio,
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  they freeze. I've never really understood
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  that. I didn't really have that.
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  You know, I just play. So timing is timing to me.
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  I don't really care where I'm sitting.
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  I might have to do a couple takes of it, you know, I might
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  have to do 20 takes of it, but I'll get it.
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  What do you think it is that makes people just when the
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  record button goes they can't perform?
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  It's because we know it's going to be there.
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  You know, I do much better live than I do in the studio.
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  Well, I think everybody. I yeah, yeah, yeah, agree with.
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  That I would agree with that. Because you're feeding off the
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  crowd, you're feeding off the energy.
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  You know, right? You're seeing the faces and the
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  look. Peter Frampton Listen to Peter
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  Frampton's studio albums. Terrible.
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  Do you feel like we do? Yeah.
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  Do you feel like we? No.
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  Listen. To kisses studio albums versus
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  their live albums. Yeah, same thing.
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  Can't do it. Yeah, Peter Frampton, man, kiss.
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  They need to be in front of an audience, man.
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  Their live stuff is the best, hands down.
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  So. But it's funny because Pete is
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  even worse. See, I don't understand SO.
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  What kind of bands have you toured with Joseph?
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  Country bands, rock bands, Blues bands, jazz groups.
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  Mostly Canadian or United States.
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  Actually, a lot of American bands, yeah.
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  Best experience on the road with a band?
• 19:43
  Wow. There's a couple of them
• 19:45
  actually. I did the Taylor Rd. show with
• 19:47
  some really good guys. We would whine and complain the
• 19:50
  whole time about playing. Then we get back this, get back
• 19:54
  to the motel room, we start playing guitar together.
• 20:00
  The guy, the guys in. I learned a lot.
• 20:03
  From from Jerry Beckley and Dewey Bunnell with with with the
• 20:06
  band America. They talked about how we're
• 20:09
  indebted to our fans. They were just there and they
• 20:13
  were just nice guys. I screwed up one time royally on
• 20:16
  stage. They just made it a joke.
• 20:20
  Oh nice, they. Didn't fire me, they didn't go
• 20:22
  and beat me up, they didn't push me out of the bus.
• 20:24
  They just it was a joke. Did they did they razz you on
• 20:27
  stage or was it after the show? Yeah, really.
• 20:31
  Really. Oh, yeah.
• 20:32
  OK. You gotta, you gotta drop that
• 20:34
  story, man. That sounds interesting.
• 20:35
  Yeah, we're doing. Don't cross the river.
• 20:37
  And yeah, the Banjo park banned. Little little walk up.
• 20:40
  I know. OK.
• 20:41
  I got to the part where I'm swiftly all alone and I just
• 20:44
  froze. I didn't know what I was
• 20:45
  supposed to do. And they turned around and
• 20:48
  looked at me and I just kind of shrugged my shoulders and went
• 20:50
  back. Don't play the banjo if you
• 20:52
  don't know the chords. That's awesome.
• 20:59
  Yeah. That's the worst.
• 21:01
  When you're standing on stage and you have that, your brain
• 21:04
  just freezes. Yeah.
• 21:07
  Actually happens to everybody if you're human, if you're human.
• 21:10
  And that's the difference between AI music generation and
• 21:13
  human music Generation 1. Thing I'll tell you is a lot of
• 21:16
  people don't know scientifically, music is one of
• 21:19
  the only activities on this planet that uses both
• 21:22
  hemispheres of your brain at the same time.
• 21:24
  Right when when you're freezing, it's one side of your brain
• 21:27
  locking up, not knowing what to do.
• 21:29
  We're not sure if it's the physical or the subconscious at
• 21:32
  that point, you know, but that's what's happening is 50% of your
• 21:35
  brain's like, but we're not quite sure what's going on at
• 21:38
  the at this moment in time. I did not know that.
• 21:41
  Oh, yeah, I do crazy research about stuff like this.
• 21:46
  You, your your conscious mind cannot distinguish between,
• 21:49
  between playing two different chords.
• 21:51
  So going from AD to AG, that's all rope muscle memory, right?
• 21:55
  It's coming from your subconscious, which is why you
• 21:57
  can talk while you're doing it. You can sing while you're doing
• 22:00
  it. Yeah, you can watch TV, I'm sure
• 22:03
  while you're practicing like I do.
• 22:04
  I'm watching TV all the time, right?
• 22:06
  Just. Listen to what's.
• 22:07
  Going on. Sure do.
• 22:09
  And I encourage my students to do that because I want to be.
• 22:12
  Second nature. How many students do you have
• 22:15
  right now, Joseph? Right now I've got about 40.
• 22:19
  Wow, how many of those are online?
• 22:22
  Actually, online, I've got 11 students online.
• 22:24
  OK, OK. OK, that's cool.
• 22:26
  So and so the 40 that you that you have face to face, they're
• 22:29
  all, they're all where you're at in Canada.
• 22:31
  OK, actually in Canada, Oklahoma from you.
• 22:37
  I'm now in Oklahoma. OK, cool.
• 22:39
  So how's that? That's a dramatic change from
• 22:42
  Canada, Oklahoma. Yes, it is very.
• 22:44
  That transition. Yeah, yeah.
• 22:47
  But you have that journey. Yeah, actually, I've been around
• 22:51
  for a long time in, in in the States.
• 22:53
  My father used to work for NASA. NASA, NASA.
• 22:58
  Wow. Did you ever see the movie
• 23:00
  Apollo? Apollo 13?
• 23:02
  Absolutely. About 10 times.
• 23:03
  So my father was one of the 11 men that got them down.
• 23:06
  My father did 9 work. Right on and.
• 23:09
  Yeah, and I, I've never said how does a man that smart have a
• 23:12
  wind up monkey like me for a kid?
• 23:15
  You became a creative intellect man, Yeah.
• 23:17
  Yeah, something else. But my my father is one of the
• 23:20
  most amazing men I know. I was having trouble with my
• 23:24
  car. I did.
• 23:25
  I had a 2005 Ford Focus. I was driving and get getting
• 23:30
  some problems. I called my father goes yeah,
• 23:31
  I'm having having some issues with the car.
• 23:33
  He goes, well, how close are you to home?
• 23:35
  I said 3 or 4 hours. He goes come on home, let me
• 23:38
  look at it. Got home pumped out in the
• 23:41
  bonnet says turn it on. He listens for a second.
• 23:44
  I bet it's this. He takes the car apart and he
• 23:49
  goes over to to his bench, takes his part out and he cleans it
• 23:52
  up, does some filing on it, puts it back in the car and never had
• 23:56
  another. Problem.
• 23:56
  Wow. OK, but.
• 23:58
  This is my dad. I bought my first car in 1979.
• 24:01
  OK, I thought, hey son, let me see the keys.
• 24:04
  Sure. Dad gave him the keys.
• 24:07
  Bad decision. Got up the next morning, went
• 24:11
  out to the car, the body was off the chassis, the engine was on
• 24:15
  newspaper all. It was literally a brand new,
• 24:18
  not a brand new used car. Brand new car.
• 24:20
  OK. So I just want to see how it
• 24:23
  worked. Wow, it's a brand new car now to
• 24:27
  show that I'm not terribly bright.
• 24:29
  Right. 2015 I bought a Honda Civic brand new right off the
• 24:35
  showroom floor. You gave your dad the keys.
• 24:38
  Gave my dad the keys and I went upstairs because my mom and dad,
• 24:41
  my father had me come to Virginia so we could look at the
• 24:43
  car, so we could buy the car. And mom asks, well, where's your
• 24:48
  father? He goes, oh, he wanted to look
• 24:49
  at the car because you know what he's doing, right?
• 24:52
  I went downstairs and sure enough, he's taking the engine
• 24:54
  apart. Wow, it's a dad.
• 24:57
  It's a brand new car stop now because I'm just checking out
• 25:01
  the air filtration system. But he put it back together,
• 25:05
  right? Yes, he did.
• 25:07
  OK. And it's still, it's still red,
• 25:08
  right? It's still running.
• 25:10
  It's still I I gave it to my nephew.
• 25:13
  It's got over 300,000 miles on it.
• 25:15
  We got that. Back from the moon, yeah.
• 25:18
  Yeah, we had a problem with our wash with our with our washing
• 25:21
  machine one time. So my genius self, I decided to
• 25:23
  YouTube it. So I learned there was a video
• 25:26
  on YouTube that was specific specifically related to the
• 25:29
  problem we were having. So my son and I, we took it
• 25:31
  apart and did what we had to do, put it back together and I had
• 25:34
  three screws leftover. Don't know how, don't know why
• 25:39
  it's it still ran. It ran perfectly fine, but
• 25:41
  there's 3 screws that ended up being the byproduct of us taking
• 25:44
  that apart and fixing whatever the the issue was.
• 25:47
  So I'm not that mechanic inclined person either.
• 25:49
  So luckily he didn't have you put it back together like that
• 25:52
  episode on Happy Days way back in the day right when he was
• 25:55
  blind. And then he took his bike apart
• 25:57
  and made him put it back together.
• 25:59
  That would have sucked. Because then I'm going to be
• 26:01
  like. What?
• 26:04
  I'm not a mechanic man. Nor am I.
• 26:07
  Can you hold on for one second? Absolutely.
• 26:10
  OK, Hold on. Be right back.
• 26:12
  Yeah, we take breaks all the time, man.
• 26:14
  Yeah. We're actually supposed to have
• 26:17
  a pause button, but. Oh that would be fun.
• 26:22
  I haven't really researched how that works yet.
• 26:24
  How? That works.
• 26:25
  We will just let Joseph have a little break there and tell
• 26:33
  everybody go to the YouTube channel and hit that subscribe
• 26:36
  button and head over and over to the Instagram and the Facebook
• 26:39
  can do the same thing. Yes, and and when you subscribe
• 26:43
  on YouTube, you're going to get notified every time we drop a
• 26:45
  new show or a new short. There you have it.
• 26:47
  Which always excites me because I get to go look at them.
• 26:50
  I'll see. Right on.
• 26:52
  Good transition. Joseph, thank you.
• 26:56
  So let me ask you this. You did or you released a clip
• 26:59
  the other day on Instagram, you were doing White Rabbit
• 27:04
  acoustically. Where was that at?
• 27:08
  That was a great version. I loved it.
• 27:11
  Thank you. We were at a place called
• 27:13
  Frank's Tavern in Bixby. OK, OK.
• 27:17
  See now. I know you're in Oklahoma.
• 27:18
  I'm like, I can't believe these guys are playing Jefferson
• 27:21
  Airplane in Oklahoma in 2025. Again, people and, and and we're
• 27:28
  always trying to do like unusual things.
• 27:31
  Every cover band does all the same music.
• 27:34
  OK, I want to do something unusual, so we're going to do
• 27:37
  White Rabbit, we're going to do Stairway to Heaven, we're going
• 27:39
  to do Hotel California, you know, because.
• 27:42
  Yeah. But you had to find somebody to
• 27:44
  sing White Rabbit, so give her a plug because she did a fantastic
• 27:47
  job. Raven is a phenomenal singer.
• 27:52
  I like the the other girl that I, I did an album with that we
• 27:55
  did a Blues album called Shades of Blues and I worked with a
• 27:59
  girl named Nova who's an amazing Blues singer and we finally got
• 28:05
  her off, got her head on straight.
• 28:09
  But but yeah, that that album is my first vocal album and I'm
• 28:14
  planning on doing another one. Not with me singing.
• 28:16
  You really don't want me singing me.
• 28:18
  Neither. Yeah, but the the other album,
• 28:21
  in fact, you can see my shirt. Turntime Creek Wildlife Rats.
• 28:24
  Huge. OK, yeah, yeah.
• 28:25
  Unplug. That for sure.
• 28:27
  Yeah, so. So, yeah, Big, big, big.
• 28:32
  And Animal Aid. You know, I'm not an animal
• 28:34
  rights person. I don't think animals are just
• 28:36
  us with fur. Thank you for that.
• 28:39
  OK. But no animal should be abused.
• 28:43
  Agreed 100%. OK, couldn't.
• 28:45
  Agree more, you know. I mean to me cows or
• 28:47
  cheeseburgers with legs. Thank you.
• 28:50
  Agreed. And you know, but, but we don't
• 28:53
  have to torture the animals. Absolutely, you know.
• 28:56
  I I grew up, grew up, you know, working on a farm and not on my
• 28:59
  farm. Mr. Adams and hire site and the
• 29:02
  Brailers, I was come over and work on their ranch.
• 29:04
  So I did that kind of work before, and I learned I wasn't
• 29:06
  good at that because I was there when Pickett was born.
• 29:09
  And when it came time to butcher pickle, well, that wasn't a cow.
• 29:12
  That was pickle. That's why, yeah, we live in, we
• 29:17
  live in horse property. And that's one of the things
• 29:18
  like my wife would never, if we got a cow, it would be mute
• 29:21
  because we couldn't, I couldn't butcher it because she would
• 29:24
  become friends with a cow. Yeah.
• 29:26
  Like, she's not going to grow. She's not going to raise
• 29:28
  anything that we're going to eventually eat.
• 29:29
  So I feel you on that one. Right.
• 29:31
  So while Turpentine Creek, they actually take abuse.
• 29:37
  Lions, tigers, bears, all kinds of animals.
• 29:41
  Jen there are more tigers privately owned in the United
• 29:44
  States than in the wild. I do, Thanks to Joe Rogan, Yeah.
• 29:48
  And you can't take care of them. No, unless you're Mike Tyson.
• 29:51
  Unless you're Mike Tyson. So the last album I did was
• 29:56
  called Rescue to Refuge. OK.
• 29:59
  Every dime of that album. And I did all the
• 30:02
  instrumentation myself, recorded it and paid for it.
• 30:05
  Everything, every dime from that goes directly to Turpentine
• 30:09
  Creek. OK, Not to me.
• 30:12
  To them it goes, yeah, we set it up so they can go through.
• 30:16
  So. So there's no chance that I'm
• 30:18
  going to be pocketing anything from this.
• 30:20
  I didn't even want the adherence that I might be doing that.
• 30:25
  And that's in Oklahoma. That actually Turpentine Creek
• 30:28
  is, is in Eureka Springs, AR OK, and they are fantastic.
• 30:38
  I've talked to these people for a long time.
• 30:40
  One of the reasons we support them so much is their goal is to
• 30:45
  make themselves obsolete. They know that that if they can
• 30:49
  stop the the animal trafficking, sure, then they're out of a job
• 30:54
  and they're OK with that. That's a good way.
• 30:56
  To look at it, yeah, absolutely, yeah.
• 31:00
  Yeah, I don't think it can be stressed enough what he said.
• 31:03
  I'm going to say it again. There are actually more tigers
• 31:07
  in captivity in just the state of Texas alone than are
• 31:11
  remaining in the rest of the world.
• 31:13
  Yeah, that's insane. Just in the state of Texas
• 31:16
  alone, yeah, that's the statistic.
• 31:19
  Yeah, and I've tried to explain to people, OK, you know, OK, so
• 31:25
  I'm going to get political for a second.
• 31:26
  They're all lying douche bags. OK?
• 31:29
  I don't care which side of the aisle they're on.
• 31:31
  I. Couldn't agree with you more.
• 31:33
  I think Chris is in the same boat.
• 31:34
  Yeah. They're all lying douchebags.
• 31:36
  They tried to get something passed called the Big Cat
• 31:38
  Protection and Safety Act. OK.
• 31:41
  The wrong guy was president, so the opposition party made sure
• 31:46
  it didn't pass. See, that's just that's, yeah.
• 31:51
  Yeah, the people who are supposed to be.
• 31:54
  I said. I'm not naming names here, but
• 31:55
  the people who are supposed to be on the side of the animals.
• 31:59
  Well, the wrong guy was in office OK when people finally
• 32:03
  got and. It's the people that are just
• 32:05
  supposed to be on the side of the people.
• 32:07
  Politicians are elected officials that are supposed to
• 32:09
  be a voice for the everyday human being, not for their own
• 32:12
  agenda, which is completely turned and flipped that way,
• 32:16
  which is nonsense because that's why you have a countries in such
• 32:20
  like disarray most of time, because you have it's, it's,
• 32:23
  it's like you said, it's all about me, me, me, me, me, me.
• 32:26
  It's, it's what I want. It's a big beautiful bill.
• 32:28
  Well, the big beautiful bill is going to make you it looks
• 32:30
  stupid and it's going to affect millions and millions of people,
• 32:33
  just like Obamacare did, just like they.
• 32:36
  They never just look at what's good for the person we.
• 32:38
  We play teams as well, which is stupid.
• 32:42
  I was a history teacher and a couple of my favorite
• 32:45
  presidents. One of them was a guy named John
• 32:47
  Tyler. He inherited the presidency from
• 32:51
  who? I don't.
• 32:52
  Recognize John Tyler's name. I've got the year like 181840,
• 32:59
  OK, around that time. So he was thrown out of his own
• 33:05
  party. Oh, because he would not carry
• 33:08
  what? He had no party, OK.
• 33:10
  Nobody wanted to be his vice president.
• 33:13
  His entire cabinet quit. He kept saying crazy stuff like,
• 33:17
  well, that's a breach of my authority.
• 33:19
  Well, that's not in the best interest of the American people.
• 33:22
  I like this guy. That's not crazy.
• 33:23
  That's. Unconstitutional.
• 33:24
  Yeah, I know he was. And, and when he left, he said,
• 33:29
  well, the American people wanted them back because no, politics
• 33:32
  is no place for men of character.
• 33:34
  No it's not. Absolutely agree.
• 33:36
  With you and it's really not. That's a great quote.
• 33:39
  And, and people keep thinking that, you know, oh, I voted for
• 33:43
  so and so because he's a man of character, because no, you
• 33:47
  don't. No.
• 33:47
  That makes me laugh harder than anything that they actually
• 33:50
  think that there's going to be a difference.
• 33:53
  Yeah, Ronald Reagan himself said said that no man becomes
• 33:56
  president by being the good guy. No, absolutely not.
• 34:00
  Another great quote, no? That's a great quote.
• 34:03
  Yeah, no. Because all, all, every single
• 34:04
  president that's ever been a president is a sociopath.
• 34:07
  They know how to manipulate the system.
• 34:08
  They know how to convince you that they're the one.
• 34:10
  I mean, they're, they're a sociopath, which is just a step
• 34:12
  away from being a psychopath because they can completely
• 34:15
  control, manipulate every situation they step into.
• 34:18
  Obama became president not so much of his of his policies, but
• 34:21
  because he was a very charismatic speaker.
• 34:24
  He couldn't help. Obama could.
• 34:26
  Lie better than most people tell the truth, right?
• 34:29
  Right, because you just, he was that he was a slick oil
• 34:32
  salesman. You just were captivated by his
• 34:34
  his speech and his speaking and his public speaking.
• 34:37
  The ability was was second to none.
• 34:39
  Clinton could convince you that he didn't have sex with Monica
• 34:42
  Lewinsigan on his death, that she just went down on him.
• 34:45
  Really. Because we all know that part
• 34:46
  never leads to the other, right? But he he basically convinced an
• 34:50
  entire country that he did not have sex with that a woman and
• 34:53
  made it OK, right. From a political standpoint, you
• 34:57
  can have oral engagement with anyone and there's nothing wrong
• 35:01
  with that. Well said.
• 35:02
  This is our president at the time, two term president.
• 35:06
  And, and let's be honest, the way he presents himself, you
• 35:09
  still want to go out and have a beer with him, don't you?
• 35:11
  Right, exactly. Exactly.
• 35:14
  I want to do mushrooms with that guy.
• 35:19
  Start talking. Yeah.
• 35:21
  Yeah, it's. Yeah, right.
• 35:23
  Oh my gosh. And.
• 35:25
  Then we have George, George Junior, who is basically a
• 35:27
  fraternity brother who became president.
• 35:29
  And it's like it's, it's, it's just, it blows my mind.
• 35:33
  Mike and I are not huge in. Politics, but yeah, don't have
• 35:36
  I'll. Talk politics with anyone who
• 35:38
  will talk politics like we are right now, right?
• 35:41
  Yeah. Comments.
• 35:43
  I had some compliments. You can't discuss religion and
• 35:46
  politics because people don't think rationally.
• 35:49
  They react emotionally. I'm tired.
• 35:51
  You said that. I've never heard it put that
• 35:53
  way. That's.
• 35:53
  True, though absolutely I. Had a friend of mine guys play
• 35:57
  Bandwidth back in the 80s. OK, our buddy Mikey voted for
• 36:01
  Reagan. OK.
• 36:03
  OK. I shouldn't be using names.
• 36:05
  OK, They're going to watch this. Well, it's OK.
• 36:09
  We had another friend. We're playing music together.
• 36:14
  Yeah. He now unfriended him on
• 36:16
  Facebook. I hate that shit.
• 36:18
  OK. And blocked him.
• 36:20
  I said why? Why'd you block?
• 36:22
  Because he voted for Reagan. Yeah, we knew that in 1984.
• 36:26
  I just heard a story about a mother and a daughter.
• 36:30
  It was either a mother and a daughter or mother and a son.
• 36:32
  It's a family friend, but they don't speak to each other.
• 36:36
  It's a friend of a friend, I guess, but whatever.
• 36:39
  Their relationship is fractured for like the last 10 years since
• 36:43
  Trump was a president the first time.
• 36:47
  They've never spoken to each other since, just simply for the
• 36:49
  fact that the mother voted the way that the son didn't want.
• 36:53
  I can't remember which way that he was.
• 36:54
  She was you. Know it's crazy.
• 36:56
  I've had two friends since 1980. OK.
• 36:59
  My friend Sadiq is a Muslim from Afghanistan.
• 37:03
  Our other mutual friend, Namir, is a Jew from Israel.
• 37:07
  OK. Every time I go to the East
• 37:09
  Coast, we still get together and have coffee.
• 37:12
  Do you know what we agree on? Nothing.
• 37:15
  Don't even like our coffee the same way.
• 37:18
  OK, Sadiq and I yeah, we got into it one time over.
• 37:21
  He was so excited to have a Muslim president, and I said,
• 37:23
  well, who would that be? Oh, Obama.
• 37:27
  He went to the same madrasa as my cousin.
• 37:29
  Son said this. Well, he says he's a Christian.
• 37:31
  No, no, no, no. He's a you know what It doesn't.
• 37:34
  Matter. Equals to believe that.
• 37:35
  Yeah, it doesn't. Hurt me, Let me.
• 37:37
  Believe you, we're still friends.
• 37:40
  Yes, and and we will argue politics, religion, and we'll
• 37:43
  get loud and obnoxious when it's all done.
• 37:46
  We're still friends. Yeah, have we not forgotten how
• 37:50
  to agree to disagree? We have, right, Everybody's
• 37:54
  forgotten that because everybody just reads the headlines.
• 37:56
  They just read the clickbait. They all the news stories are
• 37:59
  exactly the same. They got the headline and the
• 38:02
  you, you, if you click it, you'll realize whatever that
• 38:04
  headline is, it doesn't make any relevance to the artificial
• 38:07
  article itself. But they have to make you click
• 38:10
  on it because there's no attention span anymore.
• 38:13
  You're not selling newspapers, so everything's online and like.
• 38:16
  Joseph said earlier, one of the things that I always commend
• 38:19
  Chris on and he commends me on the same thing last night, I
• 38:22
  think it was last night, maybe the night before, we had to have
• 38:24
  some a serious conversation about some serious subjects,
• 38:28
  right? And it might have taken two
• 38:31
  other people two weeks to accomplish what we accomplished
• 38:35
  in an hour and 10 minutes, right?
• 38:36
  Because it's like, I agree with that.
• 38:39
  I disagree with that. And here's why.
• 38:40
  Well, here's my position, right? And then we would we'd move on
• 38:43
  to the next thing. It's we have forgotten that
• 38:47
  everybody who's doing what they're supposed to be doing, a
• 38:51
  productive member of society. You're not hurting anybody else
• 38:54
  doing what you're doing. You are entitled to your opinion
• 38:57
  as a human being, right? We all only have one life.
• 39:00
  That's right, we're. All terminally ill.
• 39:02
  Do you really want to live in some homogeneous dystopian
• 39:06
  society? No.
• 39:08
  No, Fuck no. My wife and I don't.
• 39:12
  I'm I'm a religious Catholic. My wife is an agnostic.
• 39:16
  I'm with your wife. I'm open to possibilities.
• 39:18
  That's right. You know, and we talk about
• 39:21
  things and you know, she makes fun of me sometimes for being
• 39:24
  for going to Mass, and I'm OK with that.
• 39:26
  Makes you happy, right? Yeah.
• 39:28
  Because she's totally hot. No, I mean going to mass makes
• 39:34
  you happy. Right and.
• 39:35
  It improves your life, correct? Yeah.
• 39:38
  So then you should keep doing that.
• 39:39
  That's always my. I'm not a religious person.
• 39:42
  I I have my own views, but I always, I'm careful to say if
• 39:46
  that's what makes you be Joseph that's sitting here talking to
• 39:49
  me, then by all means keep doing it.
• 39:52
  Yeah, you know, I said there's supposedly there should be no
• 39:55
  peace in my home. But no, we, you know, because
• 39:59
  there's a lot of things we agree on.
• 40:02
  Actually, we're both. Both my wife and I both love
• 40:04
  heavy metal. OK, right.
• 40:06
  On That's a great common ground. I love it.
• 40:09
  My wife looks like she should be teaching Bible study at a
• 40:13
  Baptist Church. She is more metal than me.
• 40:16
  I love it. That's awesome, kudos to your
• 40:19
  wife. I'm friends with you both
• 40:21
  already, just now we all have common ground.
• 40:23
  That's my go through music as well.
• 40:25
  How long have you and your wife been married, Joseph?
• 40:28
  We've been married for We're going on six years.
• 40:31
  Right on and together. How long?
• 40:33
  Eight years. OK, right on.
• 40:35
  I. Never thought I'd get married.
• 40:36
  I was happy single. Yeah.
• 40:38
  OK, I feel your love. Yeah.
• 40:41
  And I just, it's funny because we ran into each other at
• 40:44
  Village Inn. Oh, right on.
• 40:46
  It's right here. And I had a book.
• 40:48
  I was just going in to drink some coffee, have some breakfast
• 40:50
  and read. And I started to talk and I
• 40:52
  decided to buy her breakfast. Oh nice, so you met in the
• 40:55
  lobby? We met in the lobby.
• 40:57
  Right on. At the same time you went in to
• 40:58
  go have breakfast. Yep.
• 41:00
  And so who? OK, so who approached 2 first?
• 41:03
  Well, she noticed that I had a book.
• 41:04
  She was on her way to see her doctor.
• 41:06
  OK. And she the doctor said, oh, we
• 41:08
  got to wait a couple hours and gotcha.
• 41:10
  So she has, she just mentioned I just man, I wish I'd brought a
• 41:12
  book because I need to kill some time and I don't know what I'm
• 41:15
  going to do. I said well have breakfast with
• 41:16
  me. Oh, right on.
• 41:18
  Yeah, great. Comeback.
• 41:19
  Yeah. So how long?
• 41:21
  How long did breakfast last? Two hours.
• 41:24
  See, I was, this was, that's why I asked that question, because
• 41:26
  if it's meant to be that breakfast wasn't like a, you
• 41:28
  know, a 30 minute thing, it went and then so a 2 hour breakfast,
• 41:31
  where'd you go from there? I went over to my, she doesn't
• 41:36
  know this. I went over to see my buddy
• 41:37
  Jared and I said dude, I think I've met my future wife.
• 41:40
  Outstanding. Man.
• 41:41
  That's awesome. That's cool.
• 41:44
  I was kind of joking, but at the same time, you know.
• 41:47
  You just knew. I just kind of knew.
• 41:49
  Yeah, see, I have the same kind of thing with with Nikki and I
• 41:52
  like I stopped looking, pursuing chicks and stuff.
• 41:54
  I was like, I'm just going to focus on the music.
• 41:56
  That's it. That's, you know, I'm done with
• 41:57
  women because I had shaved my head and realized that a bunch
• 42:01
  of women, you know, at that time in 93 just were shallow because
• 42:04
  nobody shaved their head, right. And I looked legitimately like a
• 42:07
  Skinhead. It's and then had no knowledge
• 42:09
  of skinheads. But I would wear this red and
• 42:10
  black flanneled checkered flannel with Doc Martin boots
• 42:14
  and blue jeans and, you know, shaved head, right?
• 42:17
  And they have this scowl. This is 1994, right?
• 42:22
  So it just it just it just made it made me look like, oh, this,
• 42:25
  this guys just mean and evil. And then I met her and she blew
• 42:30
  me off for a couple months. But I realized then that we went
• 42:33
  out like, OK, this chicks not shallow.
• 42:35
  You know, I would have people at the shows, Joseph, who were
• 42:37
  afraid to talk to him. And I'm like, he's a big first.
• 42:39
  First off, he's a big teddy bear and he's a fucking goofball.
• 42:42
  You know, he looks so mean. I'm like, yeah, he does.
• 42:45
  He looks really mean. He's not.
• 42:47
  But. Yeah, but 30 years, 30 years
• 42:50
  together, 29 married and we got married a year the day of our
• 42:53
  first date and we actually had the conversation about about
• 42:56
  marriage on our first date. So I feel that story that you
• 42:59
  just when you know, you know, and it's you're, you're blessed
• 43:02
  to have that some people are and some people aren't.
• 43:05
  It's just, it's one of those things like my son, he's like,
• 43:07
  oh, I want a girl from Dude, stop looking.
• 43:08
  Just let it happen. Yeah, just let it happen
• 43:11
  organically. It will happen when it's
• 43:12
  supposed to happen. See, and what was funny, this is
• 43:16
  the kind of woman I married. OK, so I've got a couple of
• 43:20
  condos. Right.
• 43:22
  And I was living in one of them. And I know that she wanted to
• 43:25
  live in a house. She didn't want to live, you
• 43:27
  know, based on my department life.
• 43:29
  Sure. And so I was looking at places
• 43:31
  and I realized, man, I'm not sure I can afford this.
• 43:33
  And I told her that she goes, you know what?
• 43:34
  As long as we're together, that's all I care about.
• 43:37
  Nice. And I said, I'm buying that one
• 43:39
  in a house. And I yeah, I bit the bullet.
• 43:42
  I went out. My father, great man, he
• 43:47
  actually loaned me half the money so we could just pay cash
• 43:50
  for the house. Nice.
• 43:52
  Paying him back right on at a better interest rate than the
• 43:55
  banks would have given me like 1.9% interest.
• 43:57
  Nice. It's like, yeah.
• 43:59
  So again, the awesomeness of my father.
• 44:02
  Yeah. But, you know, she she didn't
• 44:05
  care that you know, OK, so we'll live in your, your, your condo,
• 44:09
  your. Condo, yeah.
• 44:11
  So did you sell the condo? No, I still have them confused.
• 44:14
  Kind of investment properties. Yeah, I I need to get rid of, I
• 44:18
  need to get rid of rid of two of them.
• 44:21
  Yeah. I tell you, man, tenants feel
• 44:24
  entitled and they will not pay rent and they'll have their
• 44:28
  excuse in the world not to pay rent.
• 44:32
  Yeah. I don't think they realize that
• 44:33
  I still have financial responsibilities.
• 44:35
  Yeah. Exactly.
• 44:36
  And people think because I own properties, oh, you got to be
• 44:38
  rich, no. No, no, people don't.
• 44:41
  Yeah. See, I I sell house.
• 44:42
  I've been selling house 25 years in Arizona.
• 44:44
  So I get that. I you, you preached in the
• 44:46
  choir, man. Yeah, they just, they just don't
• 44:48
  get it all. And then the same the struggles
• 44:50
  we have now as people think, well, Rachel, you're going to
• 44:52
  come back down to 3%. No, they're not.
• 44:54
  They're not. Well, the market's going to
• 44:56
  crash. No, it's not.
• 44:57
  It's it's not. You don't understand.
• 44:59
  And especially in Arizona, we've not stopped building since World
• 45:02
  War 2. We're not, we're not crashing
• 45:05
  like that's it. It's just we may slow down when
• 45:07
  we have ebb and flows, but it it's not and I have this, it's.
• 45:11
  Always constant, right, year over year.
• 45:14
  Right, Exactly, exactly. And the stuff that's being
• 45:16
  dropped down here in the valley, like we have an Indian, Chinese
• 45:19
  and Indonesia building this massive microchip plant in the
• 45:22
  north part of the valley that is, is creating thousands of
• 45:27
  jobs and they're all educated engineers.
• 45:30
  They just don't, well, our market's stale.
• 45:32
  It's not stale. You just you don't understand
• 45:34
  it. So you're listening to the click
• 45:36
  bait headline. You're reading that one little
• 45:38
  headline supply. It weighs demand, but really it
• 45:41
  doesn't. It's I can go on for hours, but
• 45:42
  I won't bore you with it. But people, it's the it's the
• 45:45
  perception of the public thinking because of of the click
• 45:50
  bait headlines and and hearing a, a, a little bit of a story
• 45:54
  and not listening to the rest of or not reading all of the
• 45:57
  article. They ought to make those
• 45:58
  assumptions which are so far off.
• 46:00
  Center insane. They go to, they go to where
• 46:04
  they're going to hear their opinions.
• 46:06
  That's so true. Yeah, right.
• 46:08
  And. I'll tell you what I read a you
• 46:11
  talk about, you know, just reading headlines.
• 46:13
  I saw a headline where a 17 year old kid died with COVID and I
• 46:18
  was going, man, I thought specifically that didn't happen.
• 46:20
  So I read the article. Well, yeah, died with COVID.
• 46:23
  They left out in the headline that he got shot in the heart
• 46:26
  and kidney robbing a liquor store.
• 46:28
  While while having COVID. While having COVID.
• 46:31
  OK. Which is, yeah, which is why he
• 46:33
  died in the hospital, because there's not, yeah, there's not
• 46:36
  been a single person that died of COVID outside the hospital.
• 46:39
  It's on record. So.
• 46:40
  But that's. But say you go prime example.
• 46:43
  Read the article people, not the headline.
• 46:44
  And do your own independent research.
• 46:47
  Right. Another thing that I like to
• 46:48
  say, Joseph, is I will decide what my opinion is, right?
• 46:51
  You're not going to give me my opinion.
• 46:53
  Yeah. Unless you're my father, maybe
• 46:55
  you know your parents get away with a couple.
• 46:58
  Yes they do. But, you know, outside of that,
• 47:01
  I'm going to decide what I'm going to do, and I will have my
• 47:04
  own opinion about things. You hit the nail on the head.
• 47:07
  You can figure out who somebody is by watching their television
• 47:10
  for sure, right? If they watch Fox News, they're
• 47:12
  conservative. If they watch CNN, they're
• 47:14
  confused. If they watch MSNBC, they're a
• 47:16
  Democrat. I mean, if there's no, there's
• 47:20
  no in between. And those people tell them what
• 47:22
  they're supposed to believe every day.
• 47:25
  Inhale it. Yeah, Joe Rogan's the most
• 47:28
  reputable guy in my opinion. Because.
• 47:31
  Because he tells it like it is. He tells it like it is, and like
• 47:35
  Chris and I, he's not afraid to say he was wrong about
• 47:38
  something. I always like to say like he
• 47:40
  does. I'm not married to any of my
• 47:42
  ideas. I used to say it differently,
• 47:43
  but that's a good way for people to understand it.
• 47:46
  You could change my mind about something that I've thought the
• 47:49
  same way about for 20 years just by giving me a logical
• 47:52
  explanation as to why you believe what you believe, right?
• 47:56
  I'm that kind of person. I will accept your explanation.
• 47:59
  It'll rattle around in my head and it might be 3 minutes, 3
• 48:03
  days, three hours later, 30 days later, I'll call you up and say,
• 48:07
  hey, you know what? You were right, and here's why.
• 48:11
  And again, you how do we know what we believe unless we know
• 48:15
  what someone else believes? Right.
• 48:17
  True, that's a great point. Yeah, so I, I, I consider I've
• 48:22
  been fortunate, you know, and and again, all the different
• 48:25
  influence traveling. OK, when I was in I play sitar.
• 48:29
  The guy that my sitar was a. Great instrument, I always
• 48:32
  wanted to learn how to play that.
• 48:33
  Man dude I love my sitar. It was built by the same guy
• 48:36
  that built Robbie Anoushka and George Harrison's sitar.
• 48:39
  You don't have it there where you can play it, do you?
• 48:41
  No, I don't. OK, but you can hear it on the
• 48:44
  song Sugar in the Raw for Skip album.
• 48:47
  Yeah, OK. It's it's the first time I got
• 48:50
  to pull that puppy out. OK, so now you brought up your
• 48:53
  your your albums. Where do people find your music
• 48:55
  catalog? Actually, I'm on Spotify,
• 48:58
  Pandora, I'm on all streaming audio, OK, The album I always
• 49:03
  tell tell everyone that they have Amazon.
• 49:06
  It's on Amazon, Yeah. OK, I.
• 49:09
  So that all they got to do is search your name and though
• 49:11
  it'll pop up. Yep.
• 49:13
  OK, cool. And how many albums have you
• 49:16
  released? I think 15.
• 49:19
  OK, wow. And.
• 49:21
  Some of them are classical, some of our new age.
• 49:23
  A lot of them are jazz. OK, yeah, I'm actually talking
• 49:28
  about right now about doing a movie soundtrack.
• 49:31
  So do more orchestral. Movie soundtrack 4.
• 49:35
  Just an independent film, OK. So what do you know what the
• 49:38
  film's about? No, I don't.
• 49:42
  I just. Did you ever see the movie or
• 49:44
  the TV series? Lucifer, yes.
• 49:49
  OK, my wife loved that show. Oh, me too.
• 49:52
  Well, originally that was an independent film called Dead Act
• 49:55
  for the Devil. Oh no shit.
• 49:58
  Yep. And I talked to the guy who who
• 50:01
  because the guy used my father's 62 vet in the original.
• 50:06
  Really. And so I met the guy.
• 50:08
  He asked me to write a piece to to present as a possible for
• 50:13
  writing the soundtrack you want with somebody else.
• 50:16
  But the the last song, the song, the song that I wrote was
• 50:22
  actually a piano piece called Autumn Suite.
• 50:26
  And, and so, yeah, I got to play piano and keyboard and stuff and
• 50:31
  do cool voice things because I love that kind of stuff.
• 50:34
  OK, this guy's a lot like The Moines.
• 50:36
  How many instruments do you play?
• 50:39
  Really, I'm only proficient on about 17, OK, you know.
• 50:44
  This conversation was over. I thought you really knew how to
• 50:47
  play. Yeah, we're done.
• 50:49
  We're done. And you can't play 20 or more
• 50:52
  than. Holy crap.
• 50:54
  So what can't you play? What can't you play?
• 50:59
  I can play things like trumpet and and French horn stuff, but
• 51:03
  my armature's really bad and I'm not real good.
• 51:06
  On the Turpentine Creek album The Rescue, the Refuge, I have
• 51:09
  one song. It's piano, cello and flute, and
• 51:15
  I played all those instruments right on.
• 51:17
  But I list myself as average on most of those.
• 51:19
  Well. Of course you do, because all
• 51:21
  musicians are humble. If if you know if that's.
• 51:24
  Not what's? Your top five strengths.
• 51:26
  I'm pretty, I'm pretty just average, but guitar, bass,
• 51:30
  banjo, mandolin, I play the buzuki, the Bella laca and the
• 51:35
  sitar, kind of the things that I I play most often.
• 51:39
  Have you ever messed around with a pedal steel?
• 51:41
  Yes, I love it. Not good.
• 51:44
  Not good at all. What?
• 51:47
  Is the difference between playing that as a stringed
• 51:50
  instrument? Everything you named was a
• 51:52
  stringed instrument and I understand why because I can
• 51:55
  play mandolin and I can't play banjo, but I can play bass and
• 51:59
  guitar and a little bit of drums.
• 52:01
  I can keep like 3 beats but I understand how all the other
• 52:05
  instruments worked. What is the difference when you
• 52:07
  lay it flat and now you have pedals to operate?
• 52:10
  Is it more like a piano? The. 8 strings, most of them
• 52:14
  have 8 strings and the tuning is generally to a chord, so.
• 52:18
  So there's some simplicity here. It's really more about the
• 52:20
  pedals working the pedals right. OK.
• 52:24
  And I could never get a good feel for that.
• 52:26
  I've been watching slash's journey on Instagram.
• 52:29
  I don't know if you have. I haven't.
• 52:32
  That's an estimate. He's been learning to play for
• 52:34
  the last several years while they've been out on this massive
• 52:37
  tour. You know, the reunion thing?
• 52:39
  Yeah, he's spending his downtime, you know, because he
• 52:41
  quit drinking and smoking and doing drugs.
• 52:43
  So now his downtime is spent. He packs this thing and sets it
• 52:47
  up in every motel room, or you know, in their case, hotel rooms
• 52:50
  that they're in. Slash is, you know, I love that.
• 52:56
  OK, you know if you ever analyze that song, it's AD chord.
• 53:04
  I never thought about that. You're right, it is.
• 53:06
  Yeah, even the lead. Oh, interesting.
• 53:15
  But it's so tasteful. Yeah, yeah, Slash Slash is a
• 53:20
  genius. It goes back to what you said
• 53:22
  way back in the beginning. It's not what you're playing,
• 53:25
  it's how you're playing. How?
• 53:26
  You're playing Yeah, BB. King could say more with one
• 53:29
  note than most shredders could say with 50, right?
• 53:32
  Yeah, that's right. B.B.
• 53:33
  King played 13 riffs his entire career.
• 53:37
  Really. I've actually graphed them for
• 53:38
  my students to show that. Right on.
• 53:40
  But he never played them the same way twice.
• 53:44
  Because it was all about how he felt at that moment in time.
• 53:47
  Yeah, amazing. Yeah, I just, you know, listen
• 53:50
  to his version of of Dust Mite Broom versus Sweet Little Angel.
• 53:55
  He used the same riff, but his phrasing is so different in each
• 54:01
  one. Phrasing is everything.
• 54:02
  Eric Clapton is a master of phrasing.
• 54:05
  Nobody phrases better than Eric Clapton.
• 54:09
  Slow hand. Slow hand.
• 54:10
  Yeah, and that's one thing that I always, you know, I, I don't
• 54:15
  brag myself up much, but that's one thing.
• 54:17
  I don't have a lot of technical ability and I don't have all the
• 54:20
  tools that a lot of schooled musicians do.
• 54:23
  But the one thing that I did have was a great
• 54:26
  singer-songwriter and the ability to make people feel what
• 54:30
  I was feeling at that moment in time as well.
• 54:32
  You know, I don't understand that note.
• 54:34
  To make it. Hit you right, you know.
• 54:39
  Yeah. Obviously, because I got
• 54:40
  compliments from this guy all the time, so that was my
• 54:43
  audience. Yeah, Tim Renwick is one of my
• 54:46
  favorite musicians artists. No, but ultimately you're the
• 54:49
  one that had to sing to my music.
• 54:51
  Sure, in the end, right? So sure, in the beginning you
• 54:54
  were my audience. Yeah, yeah.
• 54:56
  What did you, what did you, what did you just mention Joe Joseph,
• 54:59
  something about somebody named Tim?
• 55:01
  Yeah, Tim Renwick, He was a guitar player for the song Year
• 55:04
  the Cat, the electric guitar. But he was also played the flute
• 55:08
  and saxophone for Pink Floyd. And he toured with The Hollies
• 55:12
  as the piano player. But he played drums for Peter
• 55:16
  Gabriel. The guy does, like, freaking
• 55:20
  everything. OK, They asked him one time.
• 55:23
  And I actually recently had another point to all that and it
• 55:26
  just flew. Oh.
• 55:27
  So do you remember the song? He ain't Heavy.
• 55:30
  He's my brother. Yeah, I remember the title of
• 55:34
  it. I remember the name of it.
• 55:34
  I don't remember. The song the piano player on
• 55:37
  that was not Tim Renwick, It was Elton John.
• 55:42
  Tim Renwick could not get the sound that he wanted.
• 55:46
  And so he went out to get some coffee and he heard a guy in
• 55:49
  another studio playing. And he went, hey, what are you
• 55:52
  doing right now? I was like, well, nothing.
• 55:54
  I went, come on back here. And he showed him the song play
• 55:57
  this, this, and said that was the song that he wanted.
• 56:02
  It wasn't important that Tim played it.
• 56:05
  It was important that the song sounded right.
• 56:09
  Yes, absolutely, yeah. I hope that I'm I'm better
• 56:14
  because I think no, I can do it. I.
• 56:17
  Took that lesson away from Eddie Van Halen.
• 56:19
  He said it 100 years ago. He says you got 7 notes, 8 if
• 56:22
  you count the octave right. How do you mess them up is your
• 56:25
  business. If it sounds good, it is good
• 56:28
  it. Is good.
• 56:29
  Basically what you said earlier, theory is a road map.
• 56:32
  There's no problem with learning it.
• 56:34
  But that's not going to make you play with emotion, right?
• 56:37
  It's not going to make you. It's not going to make you have
• 56:39
  the ability to portray what you're feeling out to your
• 56:44
  audience. Yeah.
• 56:46
  Those are the people that make my, you know, everybody calls
• 56:49
  ACDC the most simplistic band ever.
• 56:51
  Go try and play that right. Yeah.
• 56:54
  It's. Not as easy as it looks.
• 56:56
  Yeah, simplistic doesn't mean easy.
• 56:59
  No, no. And you're.
• 57:01
  Allowing it to breathe, yeah. Yeah, and some some of the
• 57:05
  simplest things in the world are hard to get right.
• 57:10
  Yeah, I always tell people it's way harder to play slow than it
• 57:13
  is fast. It is hard to play slow, that's
• 57:15
  why I make all my students play slow.
• 57:18
  Thank. You, you just proved my point.
• 57:22
  You know, I consider myself a decent teacher, but you know,
• 57:25
  coming from you, when I say things like that and somebody
• 57:28
  reiterates it, it just, it gives me hope that I was doing the
• 57:32
  right thing all along, right? Because to me it is way harder
• 57:35
  to play slow. You got to wait for the beat to
• 57:37
  come around all the time. Right.
• 57:39
  And it you have to be more dynamic.
• 57:41
  Dynamics are a big thing. Yeah, talk about Eddie Van
• 57:44
  Halen. Eddie Van Halen even thought
• 57:46
  about pit direction. Yep.
• 57:49
  Oh, you know, go back and listen to Running with the Devil.
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  You know, the way he uses his pit.
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  And I, I always kind of knew that, but I heard him talking
• 57:59
  about that. He said no.
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  You got to think about these things.
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  His right hand was very percussive.
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  He thought about it like a drummer.
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  Yep, exactly. You know, and some some of the
• 58:11
  best guitar players started off as drummers.
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  I wanted to be a drummer, but my will, you know, my ability to do
• 58:17
  so, my wanting to do so far outweighed my ability to do so.
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  That's what I always tell people.
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  Yeah, yeah, I when I first heard The Beatles, I told my mother I
• 58:27
  wanted a drum kit and she goes, well, just ask for the Christmas
• 58:31
  and I did. You know what I got that
• 58:32
  Christmas? A.
• 58:33
  Drum kit. A harmonica?
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  Oh. Because Father Christmas didn't
• 58:38
  want the noise I'm. Guessing so, but I still play
• 58:44
  harmonica. Right on.
• 58:47
  That's funny. Yeah, we might hit you up for
• 58:49
  that when we try and recreate the song that you're going to
• 58:52
  hear at the beginning. Oh, great.
• 58:54
  Freeman. Freeman.
• 58:55
  Yeah, yeah, I will drive all the way out to.
• 58:58
  Arizona to do it. It'd probably.
• 59:00
  Be in Illinois. Illinois.
• 59:02
  OK, I can get Illinois. Yeah, it's the digital age, man.
• 59:05
  I'm just figure out how to make it happen.
• 59:07
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, Ivy was recorded in two
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  different studios. They even filmed it in two
• 59:12
  different studios. Well.
• 59:14
  I and A lot of because we talked about Guns and Roses a little
• 59:17
  bit, a lot of what the usual Illusions albums were filmed in
• 59:20
  pieces, right, Right. They weren't even talking to
• 59:22
  each other at the time, correct. You know, and then you had COVID
• 59:26
  hit and so many bands were, were recording their pieces at home
• 59:30
  and then and then digitally, you know, recording it, then
• 59:32
  emailing it to the next member of the band to do their part and
• 59:35
  piece it all together. And then they just the, the
• 59:37
  beautiful thing about technology is they can just, you know, put
• 59:41
  it all together and create this one magnificent sound.
• 59:44
  Yeah, yeah. And you know, I, I did a lot of
• 59:48
  that. I recorded a lot of my stuff in
• 59:49
  one studio. Yeah, over to Lewis's finished
• 59:52
  up there. The the the guy.
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  The guy, in fact, on the Shades of Blues album, all the Hammond
• 1:00:00
  B3 organ I recorded at church studios.
• 1:00:05
  Oh. So and and actually the song
• 1:00:08
  spiked from the Rescue to Refuge album.
• 1:00:10
  I had the song and I wanted a Hammond B3.
• 1:00:14
  Shipped it all over to church studios, sat on the Hammond B3,
• 1:00:18
  really played it out that. Sound.
• 1:00:21
  Yeah, me too. It's a great sound.
• 1:00:23
  That is so rock'n'roll, and if people at home don't know what
• 1:00:28
  that is, you can think a lot of REO Speedwagon is loaded with
• 1:00:31
  Hammond. B3 that is a great example.
• 1:00:34
  Good job Mike, because sometimes I feel like we talk over
• 1:00:37
  people's heads. So that was, that was an
• 1:00:38
  outstanding example because I ought to make like in here our
• 1:00:41
  Speedwagon when I had now, yeah. When it's not the piano, it's
• 1:00:46
  it's the Hammond B3. Yeah, that's cool.
• 1:00:49
  That's such a big instrument too.
• 1:00:50
  It's such a great and not big, but I mean, sound wise, it
• 1:00:53
  fills. It fills the space, Yeah.
• 1:00:56
  By the way, in the world of coolness, I'm a big Dan
• 1:01:00
  Fogelberg fan also. Oh.
• 1:01:01
  Good for you, me too. I got to play on it.
• 1:01:04
  Church Studios has his his grand piano and I got to play his
• 1:01:09
  grand piano when we recorded the song Bloomy Sunday.
• 1:01:13
  That's awesome. Yeah.
• 1:01:15
  So. So if you look at the Shades of
• 1:01:17
  Blues album, that's and, and I was nervous when I started to
• 1:01:20
  plan on that thing because I'm going Dan Fogelberg's fingers
• 1:01:23
  have been here. Yeah, probably the song that
• 1:01:26
  people would know from Dan Fogelberg first and foremost
• 1:01:29
  would be longer for sure, right? Yeah, Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:32
  With Glenn Frosting in background and Joe Walsh playing
• 1:01:35
  guitar. Russ Conkilon percussion.
• 1:01:37
  I did not know Joe Walsh played guitar on that album.
• 1:01:40
  Yeah. Or on that song.
• 1:01:41
  Excuse me? Yep.
• 1:01:42
  Well, that's awesome. Yeah.
• 1:01:45
  The Eagles were a backup band forever with Linda Ronstadt, so
• 1:01:48
  I wouldn't be surprised if there are all kinds of studio
• 1:01:50
  musicians, you know, session musicians.
• 1:01:53
  Back in the day, people would be in the studio and say, hey,
• 1:01:56
  you're doing that. Can can I set in?
• 1:01:58
  Can I do this? Yeah, there.
• 1:01:59
  Wasn't all these publishing rights, and I did this and you
• 1:02:02
  did that, and they weren't fighting about that.
• 1:02:04
  They were trying to do what was right for the music back then.
• 1:02:06
  Yeah, Yeah. Well, we had like, yeah, like
• 1:02:11
  Mike mentioned earlier, we had a a gentleman on in Lemoine
• 1:02:13
  Alexander who's, you know, hip hop producer now he's doing his
• 1:02:16
  own rock'n'roll thing, but same thing.
• 1:02:19
  He just, he just incorporated all different kinds of things
• 1:02:21
  when he was doing his producing thing just because to make it
• 1:02:24
  sound better and, and to create a better space filling for the
• 1:02:28
  music. And there wasn't, there wasn't
• 1:02:31
  all the nonsense of, oh, you can't.
• 1:02:32
  And he was approached by so many fantastic artists to work with.
• 1:02:36
  And some of them he just said no to because he didn't want to
• 1:02:38
  like crush his his opinion of that artist because there was
• 1:02:42
  such a high level right, Which I think is is cool.
• 1:02:47
  But also I would have like jumped at those chances.
• 1:02:49
  But it's just, it's indicative of the respect you have for
• 1:02:53
  musicians at your level that have, have have made this a
• 1:02:56
  career. And you just, you want to be
• 1:02:58
  involved, but you want to make sure it's involved for the right
• 1:03:01
  reasons, you know? I'd say it's sometimes scary
• 1:03:05
  meeting some of these people. I can see that because they're
• 1:03:08
  not the people you want them to be.
• 1:03:11
  Right. True story.
• 1:03:13
  Yeah, we encountered that too. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:17
  Yeah, cool. Stories though, and I always
• 1:03:19
  like the happy story. Nokie Edwards was the guitar
• 1:03:25
  player for the Ventures and I was at the NAMM show working
• 1:03:29
  with Morgan Guitars and we were doing this little round Robin
• 1:03:32
  playing. This guy walks up and he goes,
• 1:03:34
  hey, do you guys mind if I sit in with you and I recognize him
• 1:03:38
  because, you know, I'm a big fan because yeah, sure, We're just
• 1:03:41
  all having a little fun here. And he sits in and we ran around
• 1:03:45
  a couple times. He didn't play any lead, just
• 1:03:47
  played the rhythm because I'm just, I'm OK.
• 1:03:49
  Third time around he played. He did not play over a single
• 1:03:53
  one of us. Wow.
• 1:03:56
  And I asked about that later. I said, man, you could have
• 1:03:58
  burned us all to the ground. I I walked out to him later.
• 1:04:01
  I was named guys said me. You're Nokia Edwards.
• 1:04:03
  I know who you are. You could have burned us all the
• 1:04:06
  guys. Nah, man, I just want to have
• 1:04:07
  some fun. You know, you guys were fun.
• 1:04:09
  You guys were good. I had I had a good time, man.
• 1:04:12
  Thank you for letting me do it. Was just so grateful and
• 1:04:14
  appreciative. I love those stories because the
• 1:04:17
  guy that taught me to play guitar was the same way.
• 1:04:20
  He could sit in with anybody and he would make you look stupid if
• 1:04:24
  you know you had some kind of attitude or whatever.
• 1:04:26
  But he taught me two lessons that I never forgot.
• 1:04:29
  He always said there's always someone better than you.
• 1:04:32
  Don't ever forget that. And while three valuable
• 1:04:37
  lessons, the second one was always play for the song, right?
• 1:04:40
  You're not the star of the show unless you are the star of the
• 1:04:43
  show. So know your role.
• 1:04:45
  If you're in a band, you're playing for the song, serve the
• 1:04:48
  song. And the third and probably the
• 1:04:51
  most valuable lesson was you can learn anything from anyone,
• 1:04:55
  right? Don't ever think that you're
• 1:04:57
  here and there there because they're going to do something
• 1:05:00
  down here that you wouldn't have paid attention to.
• 1:05:02
  And that really came to serve me when I was teaching people in
• 1:05:05
  Arizona. Some of the students would just
• 1:05:07
  do things accidentally that you'd be like, hey, do that
• 1:05:10
  again, you know, And then they would get excited because you
• 1:05:13
  were, then they're teaching you something.
• 1:05:15
  Larry Carlton talks about, you know, Larry does those ghost
• 1:05:19
  bends where he bends and rolls in the Volume I.
• 1:05:21
  Love those me. Too.
• 1:05:24
  So they were doing the Simon and Simon soundtrack.
• 1:05:27
  And Larry, he does that for a warm up.
• 1:05:29
  He'll do scales that way. And Tommy Tedesco comes running
• 1:05:32
  over to what did you do? What did you do?
• 1:05:33
  Show me that. Show me that.
• 1:05:36
  And Larry showed him because I taught Tommy Tedesco something.
• 1:05:43
  That's awesome. How crazy is that?
• 1:05:45
  And now I got to play with Larry at the baked potato shortly
• 1:05:51
  after I graduated college and Oh my God, you want to talk about a
• 1:05:54
  humiliating moment in my life? We're just doing a little Blues
• 1:05:58
  thing. And it came to me and I just
• 1:06:00
  froze. I just didn't know what to do.
• 1:06:02
  Larry Nurse made me through some changes to get me comfortable so
• 1:06:07
  I could play. That's fun.
• 1:06:09
  That's a nice guy. And.
• 1:06:11
  See, here's This is the power of music.
• 1:06:14
  It doesn't matter what level you are.
• 1:06:16
  It doesn't matter how good you are or how bad you are.
• 1:06:20
  You all have some, all musicians have something in common.
• 1:06:22
  It's a it's it's a, it's a weird dynamic, drama filled family.
• 1:06:27
  Yeah, right. But it's a common, it's a common
• 1:06:30
  ground. Just like you can walk up to a
• 1:06:32
  stranger who's wearing a A at shirt from some NFL team and you
• 1:06:36
  can instantly spark up a conversation just based on that
• 1:06:38
  shirt that he's wearing because it's relevant to their life.
• 1:06:41
  It's the same thing with musicians.
• 1:06:43
  You can go to a show, doesn't matter if it's three people in a
• 1:06:46
  bar or 50,000 people. You can, you can connect with a
• 1:06:51
  musician just because of sure fact you're there enjoying
• 1:06:53
  something that you have a common element on, regardless of who
• 1:06:57
  you are, where you come from, what you look like.
• 1:06:59
  It's music, man. It it's just, it connects
• 1:07:02
  people. That's something that you said
• 1:07:04
  that resonated with me, and it's still rattling around in my
• 1:07:07
  head. Those are experiences that we've
• 1:07:10
  had collectively that no one else on this planet will ever
• 1:07:13
  understand. We can explain to them what
• 1:07:15
  standing in front of people is like, what playing in a band is
• 1:07:19
  like, but you don't know it unless you've been there.
• 1:07:21
  Exactly. Hey, I'm, I'm, I'm and she's
• 1:07:25
  guys one of my students. OK, awesome.
• 1:07:28
  This this this is the guy that I was abusing his grace today.
• 1:07:33
  So hey. What's up, man?
• 1:07:37
  Introduce yourself. Say hi to these somehow.
• 1:07:38
  I got balloons going. I didn't do the balloons thing.
• 1:07:42
  No I didn't no my vert that. Somehow so.
• 1:07:46
  So these are guys that I'm talking to you today, Yeah.
• 1:07:53
  Yeah, we're going to, we're going to write this up, Joseph.
• 1:07:55
  So yeah, she can get on every day, man.
• 1:07:58
  So this has been such a treat having you on, man.
• 1:08:01
  Mike was so excited that we got to finally connect with you and
• 1:08:03
  get you on the show, man. I I appreciate you taking time
• 1:08:05
  out of your busy schedule and your day.
• 1:08:06
  Guys, it has. It has been a blast.
• 1:08:09
  Absolutely. Yeah, we definitely want to have
• 1:08:11
  you back, man. Yes.
• 1:08:12
  And, and I'll be, yeah, I'd love to.
• 1:08:14
  And I will set the link up on my, I invited my friends to
• 1:08:17
  watch this thing, you know, so, and I'll send it out again and
• 1:08:22
  we're going to put it up on my, on my different Facebook pages.
• 1:08:26
  And I will send you a private message when the episode drops,
• 1:08:29
  like when I released the RSS feed and he drops it on YouTube.
• 1:08:32
  I'll send you a private message that way too.
• 1:08:34
  Excellent. Yeah, and you can find.
• 1:08:36
  You can tell people where they can find you and all your stuff
• 1:08:39
  again, please, OK. Facebook Joseph Claude Music.
• 1:08:43
  I'm on Spotify. Apple Music, I'm in all all the
• 1:08:46
  streaming audio, you name it. Just Google search, my name,
• 1:08:50
  YouTube, whatever spell. Your name for people, please.
• 1:08:53
  JOESFGLAUDE. Thank you there.
• 1:08:59
  You go. So I appreciate you guys.
• 1:09:00
  Thank. Thank you for doing this.
• 1:09:02
  Thank you for doing it for us, man, Thank.
• 1:09:03
  You as well and we wrap every show up with this.
• 1:09:06
  Don't let the bad days win. If you're if you're feeling sad,
• 1:09:08
  you're feeling depressed, reach out to somebody that you know
• 1:09:11
  you can trust and talk to because you don't want to leave
• 1:09:13
  a hole in somebody's heart tomorrow morning if you don't
• 1:09:14
  wake up, Somebody Loves You. Somebody always will.
• 1:09:17
  So be mindful of that. We love all of you for listening
• 1:09:20
  to us and checking us out on YouTube and all the different
• 1:09:22
  platforms. Everybody have a fantastic day.
• 1:09:24
  Again, thank you, Joseph very much.
• 1:09:26
  Thanks, you're amazing human. We appreciate you being on.
• 1:09:28
  Tell your lovely bride we said hello.
• 1:09:29
  And I will do that. Love you man, love you too.
• 1:09:36
  Love you. Guys too man, thanks a lot.
• 1:09:38
  Joseph, hey, good day. Look the tablet, you're insane.
• 1:09:54
  Feel the Jesus open your life on your journey.
• 1:09:59
  You will go. Feel the trail behind your eyes.
• 1:10:11
  Feel yourself and need yourself. Take a moment.
• 1:10:17
  Look until you see it. The battle that's too far queer.
• 1:10:23
  But the battle but you far queer.
• 1:10:27
  Who is this baby to your fingers?
• 1:10:35
  Oh yeah, this is too young here. Now you're coming.
• 1:11:49
  Come down here. We haven't found Charlie in the
• 1:11:54
  sand from fighting. Wait for the dead.
• 1:11:58
  Wait for the the wind. You ain't no creature.
• 1:12:06
  We're playing fire. You should.
• 1:12:09
  You press on the almighty day. You gotta dream.
• 1:12:15
  Who in your life to keep your soul in every man?
• 1:12:21
  Take your turn behind your eyes. Feel the soul.
• 1:12:26
  Everyone shame now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:12:35
  yeah, yeah. Take your moment.
• 1:12:39
  We can see your fear. You
• 1:13:11
  gotta, you gotta. You gotta.
• 1:13:14
  You gotta.