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8-19-26 Hour 1 - A chippy, feisty Broncos practice/Davis Webb setting the standard/Rox by the numbers · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna happen. You know, we just can't cross
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  Speaker 2: the line. I think Sean said that, and I agree.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad that we're fiery. I love the
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  Speaker 2: competition out here. It's been unbelievable to watch both sides
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  Speaker 2: of the ball win some plays and win some periods.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, we can't cross the line. And that's offense
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  Speaker 2: and defense. That's not just one person, one position group.
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  Speaker 2: We all had a part in that. So we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: handle that in this medium and make sure we understand
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  Speaker 2: where the Denver Bronco is not offense first defense out.
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  Speaker 3: Of your Broncos park one final time.
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  Speaker 4: This year before they kick us out forever and they
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  Speaker 4: embark on not just the second preseason game, but the
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  Speaker 4: regular season. So all training camp coverage is brought to
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  Speaker 4: you by Ramos Law. Chad Brown in with us again
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  Speaker 4: today and the theme yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: Way away that was a positive you're.
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  Speaker 3: In a set.
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  Speaker 6: On that, he didn't sound very enthusiastic. I mean, he
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  Speaker 6: really sort of he's sort of soft pedal.
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  Speaker 3: I completely agree.
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  Speaker 6: Goodness, Hey, Cater, I know we're gonna get to everything
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  Speaker 6: that happened, including the fight and so on. You know
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  Speaker 6: why I'm happy that this is the last day of
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  Speaker 6: training camp. It's not because I'm I'm not going to
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  Speaker 6: miss seeing guys run around in their underwear playing football
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  Speaker 6: or you know, throwing the ball around and stuff. It's
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  Speaker 6: because this is the last day I have to dodge
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  Speaker 6: traffic at that intersection, and for that, I am incredibly
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  Speaker 6: thankful that at six thirty six forty five in the morning,
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  Speaker 6: that's got to be the most dangerous intersection in Colorado.
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  Speaker 3: Potomac and Broncos Parkway.
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  Speaker 5: Do you wait for the proper signal or do you
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  Speaker 5: just know?
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  Speaker 3: I wait, I wait for the proper signal.
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  Speaker 6: But these people in this early in the morning, they
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  Speaker 6: got to get places apparently because they I'm walking I
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  Speaker 6: got my green my green guy, you know, in the
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  Speaker 6: little locks, and people are still trying to turn left
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  Speaker 6: in front of me and behind me as I'm walking
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  Speaker 6: acre you like they're coming around, like they're just like
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  Speaker 6: they're dodging me, like I'm a rabbit or something.
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  Speaker 3: They don't give a rat's rip.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like you are the only one that has
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  Speaker 4: these problems. Well, why don't you've never heard a single
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  Speaker 4: other person complaining about that?
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  Speaker 3: Tomorrow?
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  Speaker 6: You do it every day. I give you permission to
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  Speaker 6: take the appetizer hour off tomorrow. You and I'll just
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  Speaker 6: show up here and walk through that intersection at six
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  Speaker 6: thirty six forty five, because I'm sure you know five
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  Speaker 6: forty five is no problem. Maybe not just a better
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  Speaker 6: walker than you. May you ever consider that people want
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  Speaker 6: to hit me more?
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  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't really know.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe it's the flip flops. It might be the flip
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't give you a confident feeling about your abillity
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  Speaker 5: to dodge.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great point. See, I wear shoes so
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  Speaker 4: I can. I'm agile, I can run around. I feel
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  Speaker 4: like it's a game of Frogger. It is every morning. Well,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people did get hit yesterday. This is
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  Speaker 4: this portion of camp where fights happened. And that's what
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  Speaker 4: went down yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: Came Its stemmed from uh gets beat up a little bit,
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  Speaker 6: Benito gets bull or I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, Bulls gets bull rushed by Benito. It's a weird
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  Speaker 4: sentence to say, and there's contact with bo Nicks. Bo
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  Speaker 4: Nick doesn't like it. He grabs Benito by the leg,
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  Speaker 4: yanks him out of the pile, and then a big
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  Speaker 4: melee occurs. Now, Chad, you've been part of these training
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  Speaker 4: camps repeatedly. I'm sure you've been in countless training camp
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  Speaker 4: fights or scrums. I know coaches come out and they say,
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  Speaker 4: don't like it. And they don't like it because if
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  Speaker 4: that happened in the game, it's stupid. You get penalized,
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  Speaker 4: Guys get ejected, if somebody punches a helmet, you can
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  Speaker 4: break your hand. A whole bunch of dumb stuff can
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  Speaker 4: happen at the same time. First of all, very normal,
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  Speaker 4: this happens every year. Second of all, don't you kind
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  Speaker 4: of like when your boys get into it a little
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  Speaker 4: bit kind of sick and tired of the the ho
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  Speaker 4: hum daily grind of camp and it could serve as
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  Speaker 4: some sort of camaraderie thing. I heard Tyler Plumbus talking
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  Speaker 4: about it yesterday. You get in a fight, you go in,
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  Speaker 4: get some lunch after practice, you watch it on film.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever is it? Good deal?
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  Speaker 5: I think Tyler's portrayal of it is a bit.
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  Speaker 3: Positive.
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  Speaker 5: Overly positive. I've seen these things linger for the entire season.
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  Speaker 5: I've seen themternative fights in the locker room. I've seen
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  Speaker 5: two naked men fight in the shower, which is there's
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  Speaker 5: nothing more frightening than that. How do I break it up?
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  Speaker 5: Where do I go? What do I grab? Not only
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  Speaker 5: are you big and strong, but you're you're wet, and
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  Speaker 5: there's two of you. Neither one of you have clothes on.
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  Speaker 5: It's a slippery surface. I got my shower flip flops on.
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  Speaker 5: It couldn't get more dangerous. So hopefully this will be
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  Speaker 5: more in the vein of what Tyler was talking about,
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  Speaker 5: because there are certainly circumstances where teammates get into something
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  Speaker 5: and it's a bee, and it becomes a bonding moment
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  Speaker 5: of some sorts, and it also can reinforce certain things.
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  Speaker 5: If Nick Bonito is bull rushing Garrett Bowles back to
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  Speaker 5: bow Nick's which is a lot of bees in one sentence.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, yes, then who's not practicing properly? Is
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  Speaker 5: it Nick Benito? Because yeah, if you bull rush somebody,
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  Speaker 5: then at some point you got to stop and hold
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  Speaker 5: him up off the quarterback. And if it's Garrett Bowles,
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  Speaker 5: who's thinking I'm gonna take this period off. It's Nick Benito.
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  Speaker 5: I know what he's gonna do. We can brother in
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  Speaker 5: law this thing. They were not practicing hard enough as
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  Speaker 5: a group. So this indicates some of the weak points
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  Speaker 5: that may have cropped up as camp gone has gone along,
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  Speaker 5: as well as the frustrations of hey, I've been hitting
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  Speaker 5: this dude for three weeks, please give me somebody else.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So in Rudy whene'er parsign gets mad because the running
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  Speaker 6: backs like we think this, He thinks this is the
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  Speaker 6: player or whatever he says. Who is in the right?
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  Speaker 6: Was Rudy in the right? Or was the running back?
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  Speaker 6: Who was Vince Vaughan? By the way, was he in
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  Speaker 6: the right? It all depends on the temple of practice.
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  Speaker 6: The coach has a responsibility before every period to let
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  Speaker 6: everyone know what the tempo of this of this particular
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  Speaker 6: drill is.
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  Speaker 7: Now.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, for the most part during training camp there's
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  Speaker 5: no tackling to the ground. But within the front seven
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  Speaker 5: are we full speed? Are we all most full speed?
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  Speaker 5: Is this team tempo where we're going working on our stuff?
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  Speaker 5: I need to go hard enough to indicate the coaches
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  Speaker 5: that I know what I'm doing, or is it really competitive?
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  Speaker 5: If I knock you to the ground, that happened to
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  Speaker 5: notock you to the ground. If the quarterbacks in a way,
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  Speaker 5: well that's his fault. You know. There's there's a varying
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  Speaker 5: levels of tempo, and the best teams know how to
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  Speaker 5: practice where everyone's at the same tempo and then they
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  Speaker 5: take care of themselves. The one team. There's only one team,
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  Speaker 5: the Broncos are guaranteed not to play this year. That's
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  Speaker 5: the Broncos. So if you keep that in mind and
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  Speaker 5: you practice with that in mind, that can eliminate some
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  Speaker 5: of those things we saw yesterday. And again, I know
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  Speaker 5: some people think trading camp fights are essential to being
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  Speaker 5: a tough team or a physical team. They're not. We
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  Speaker 5: had very few fights when I was at Pittsburgh Steel.
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  Speaker 5: We were the most physical team I've ever been around.
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  Speaker 5: Even back when it was Bill Kauer. We still tackled
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  Speaker 5: to the ground as Mike Tomlin did as recently until
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  Speaker 5: last year. So this thing that fights have to happen
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  Speaker 5: and not in my experience, But can some good come
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  Speaker 5: from it? I think it can on multiple levels.
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  Speaker 6: Me being selfish in this regard, I don't mind it
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  Speaker 6: at all. I mean, I I don't mind. I don't
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  Speaker 6: want the lingering thing, you know, I don't want this
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  Speaker 6: to carry over to the room and so on and
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  Speaker 6: so forth.
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  Speaker 3: But no shower fights for your no shower fights.
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  Speaker 6: So although I've seen that before, well not in the shower,
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  Speaker 6: most out of the shower, but close, I don't so
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  Speaker 6: I don't want any of that, but I would like it.
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  Speaker 3: I like I like the fact that the quarterback gets
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  Speaker 3: up there and goes. I love it.
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  Speaker 6: You know, he's he's a fiery dude, you know when
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  Speaker 6: he's yanking on his his uh pass rusher's leg and
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  Speaker 6: you know, I don't mind.
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  Speaker 3: I personally don't mind that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, there's there was a different sort of vibe and
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  Speaker 4: no only can we start with bone Nicks first, who
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  Speaker 4: is talking about this again? He was sort of there's
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  Speaker 4: one rule. You do not touch the quarterback, no matter what.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't happen. Bon Nicks didn't like that, but after
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  Speaker 4: practice he did say this in retrospect about the fight.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. It's football.
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  Speaker 8: It's getting me ready for the games coming up, and
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  Speaker 8: it's a physical practice out there, played by physical people.
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  Speaker 8: So it got intense and we were just really enjoying
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  Speaker 8: it and sometimes in the dog days of summer practice
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  Speaker 8: gets long and the intensity runs high.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's a very different tone than what Davis Webb
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  Speaker 4: and if you could queue up vance Joseph said about it.
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  Speaker 4: Now again, this feels like it's bo Nix's personality that.
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  Speaker 3: He look man.
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  Speaker 4: I knew from his rookie season when Sean Payton got
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  Speaker 4: in his face much similar to what he did to
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  Speaker 4: Russell Wilson the year prior, and he had zero hesitation
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  Speaker 4: in barking back.
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  Speaker 3: He likes a little feistiness.
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  Speaker 5: He does.
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  Speaker 4: He prefers I think that more than the opposite, and
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  Speaker 4: for him in particular, probably doesn't enjoy being hit. And
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  Speaker 4: I think I can ask you both of you guys this,
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  Speaker 4: because I think everybody's been involved in this in one
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  Speaker 4: way or the other. There's nothing worse when you're doing
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  Speaker 4: let's say it's a pickup basketball game or a touch
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  Speaker 4: football game or something like that. When somebody's going one
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  Speaker 4: hundred percent and everybody else is going seventy. The guy
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  Speaker 4: going one hundred percent sucks, right, That guy sucks because
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  Speaker 4: you're like, can you just feel this out?
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  Speaker 3: None of us are doing what you're doing. Okay, go
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  Speaker 3: with the flow, here's going off. I thought you wanted
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  Speaker 3: to taste. No, I wanted no taste. No, remember no taste.
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  Speaker 5: You can't. You can't, brother in law, your way to
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  Speaker 5: a successful season. If guys are making agreements during practice,
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  Speaker 5: that's not good. It should be competitive. But how do
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  Speaker 5: you remain competitive while keeping the quarterback healthy? And I
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  Speaker 5: love that bo Nick said he loves it. When's the
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  Speaker 5: last time he's going a quarterback throw a punch ever?
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  Speaker 5: In a fight?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like Wayne Gretzky talking about how much he
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  Speaker 5: loves to fight. You know it just when someone else
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  Speaker 5: does that.
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  Speaker 6: Didn't Cam Newton do that in a Panther's training camp practice.
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  Speaker 5: He's a six ft six and fifty five quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. But outside of very big Ben, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: Those two can do it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I've seen big Ben throw a football at p
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  Speaker 5: well and you know, get into a shoving match. So
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  Speaker 5: it's happened. It's very rare. But most quarterbacks, I think
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  Speaker 5: it'd be wise for them to stay above the fray
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  Speaker 5: as best as possible.
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  Speaker 6: How sick and tired did you get of looking across
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  Speaker 6: and seeing that same stupid face every day? The same
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  Speaker 6: group of stupid faces right in front of you every
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  Speaker 6: single day of your life. You're staring at these guys'
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  Speaker 6: faces and they're putting their hands on you think that
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  Speaker 6: would that would get a little I mean, I.
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  Speaker 3: Get I get furious looking at Brett. Now he's not
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  Speaker 3: even hitting me, you know what I mean. I look
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  Speaker 3: at him.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Brett's a new face to me, so I'm not
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  Speaker 5: quite sick his face. My travel roommates in Pittsburgh for
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  Speaker 5: three years was our starting offensive tackle. So we battled
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  Speaker 5: every day during training camp. At some point during every
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  Speaker 5: practice during the week, we went against each other. Then
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  Speaker 5: we had to share a room every weekend. This was
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  Speaker 5: back when professional football players actually had a roommate on
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  Speaker 5: road trips or even the home hotel. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: was sick of his face. I got sick of seeing
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  Speaker 5: him in the hotel. So there's a real.
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  Speaker 3: Fatigue.
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  Speaker 5: Mental fatigue is a great way to put it. This
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  Speaker 5: guy knows all your moves, you know, hall his moves.
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  Speaker 5: At some point we stop getting better because we were
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  Speaker 5: so familiar with each other. It starts to in my opinion,
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  Speaker 5: it gets to the point where it takes away from
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  Speaker 5: my game. Going against Walter Jones, All Pro tackle for
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  Speaker 5: the Seattle Seahawks. Hall of Fame tackle for the Seattle Seahawks.
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  Speaker 5: At some point, I didn't tell the coach I don't
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  Speaker 5: want to go against him anymore. It's not making me better,
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  Speaker 5: it's making me worse.
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  Speaker 3: We've plateaued.
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  Speaker 5: I don't get to practice my stuff against him. He's
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  Speaker 5: too good. Give me someone else that can actually start
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  Speaker 5: to work on some other things to add to my
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  Speaker 5: toolbolt of tools for pass rushing.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen a couple of coaches come out and say
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  Speaker 4: to the joint practice thing that they find it. It's
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  Speaker 4: almost counterproductive now because did you guys see what happened
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  Speaker 4: with New Orleans and the Cowboys? Just oh, there was
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  Speaker 4: like nine fights during Wow, I'll show you at least.
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  Speaker 6: Well, the Patriots and the Eagles are getting it on today. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: so the Eagles are visiting a j Brown. I'm sure
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  Speaker 6: that's gonna go over real. Well, Like, here's just one
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  Speaker 6: of them. Most helmets are off whole scrum.
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  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah, and that comes from different tempos.
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  Speaker 5: You've been working your own tempo. So someone else comes
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  Speaker 5: in and guess what happened before they got off the bus.
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  Speaker 5: We gotta find a way to get this done. We
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  Speaker 5: gotta dominate these dudes from the very first nap. So
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  Speaker 5: somebody comes in at game tempo, somebody comes in at
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  Speaker 5: practice tempo, and fights like that are the result of
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  Speaker 5: not knowing how to practice together efficiently.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're going at two different speeds. You get your
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  Speaker 4: own sort of flows towards practice. Now here's what Vance
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  Speaker 4: Joseph said after practice yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Well, oh not that, I know you said that.
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  Speaker 7: Thought it was good. Obviously you want competitive periods. It's
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  Speaker 7: been competitive all camp. You know, offense wins, defense wins.
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  Speaker 7: You know, guys are getting guys better. Obviously, you can't
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  Speaker 7: cross the line. That's against the rules. So you know
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  Speaker 7: practice games, well, we're playing our style of football. You
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  Speaker 7: know it's aggressive, it's downhill, but we can't ever cross
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  Speaker 7: the line and hurt our team. That's what the quarterback
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  Speaker 7: you hit or to figure out and can't talk to
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  Speaker 7: your guys about. But listen, we coach Peyton talks about
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  Speaker 7: how to practice from day one, and you know we
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  Speaker 7: all know on defense to avoid the quarterback. Right, it
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  Speaker 7: gets competitive, obviously, and guys are rushing to win the
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  Speaker 7: down and sometimes they get too close, you know, and
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  Speaker 7: we simply remind them. But you know, bows are a quarterback,
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  Speaker 7: and we don't want anyone near.
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  Speaker 4: Ball, you know, when he talks about, you know, being
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  Speaker 4: smart and stuff like that. Do coaches and players, I
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  Speaker 4: guess more specifically players, they know the difference, like they
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  Speaker 4: can't do that stuff in a game where it's just
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  Speaker 4: a giant scrum like that. It does happen occasionally, but
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  Speaker 4: I think just from the frequency that we see it
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  Speaker 4: in training camp as opposed to the regular season, it
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  Speaker 4: feels like most guys kind of know there's the line
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  Speaker 4: I can't cross because if I do this, I get ejected.
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  Speaker 3: Are coaches worried.
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  Speaker 4: That they can't delineate the two and that this practice
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  Speaker 4: time could bleed over in the regular season.
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  Speaker 5: If you're what's the coaching phrase, if you're allowing it.
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  Speaker 5: If you're not coaching it, you're allowing it. If you're
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  Speaker 5: not pushing back on the things that are wrong, you
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  Speaker 5: are allowing that to happen, which then could happen in
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  Speaker 5: a regular season games. So all the fights up at
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  Speaker 5: spring ball for the Buffs this year, there's a number
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  Speaker 5: of fight clips that came out on social media.
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  Speaker 3: And Dan kind of likes that right like they.
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  Speaker 5: It seemed like he did, And so for me, it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 5: if the coach starts participating positively in this. Now, of course,
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  Speaker 5: once coaches get to a meeting, did you see my
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  Speaker 5: guy he gave it to your guy. I've seen coaches
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  Speaker 5: go back and forth about their two guys fighting. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but if the coach is publicly agreeing with it, then
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  Speaker 5: that makes your point I think a valid one. Oh,
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  Speaker 5: coach likes this, and then so do I cross the
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  Speaker 5: line during a regular game? Perhaps you do. And if
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  Speaker 5: you're a star player, not only do you hurt your
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  Speaker 5: team from a penalty standpoint, you can get ejected. Now
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  Speaker 5: you can't help the team anymore. You're not available for
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  Speaker 5: the team. So that's why I had some social media
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  Speaker 5: pushback on what was happening up in Boulder. It sounds
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  Speaker 5: as if Davis Webb and Vance Joseph and I'm sure
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  Speaker 5: Sean Payton will all say the right things here. Yeah,
• 15:24
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  Speaker 5: Wait, I just I heard the watch this. Are you
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  Speaker 5: setting me up for something?
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: A little bit? That? That was not a bee? That
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: was more like one of those little mini little mini
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: wasp hornet yellow jacket things. That wasn't a honey bee.
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: I can promise you that, okay, because I know honey bees.
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: Probably those are prescription glasses you wearing.
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that was not a honey bee. But did you
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: see me diving and weaving? Did you see that I
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: was bobbing?
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: I was like in the ring with Tyson. You looked
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: like a baby.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: To be honest, well, you give it a hand swat
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: what do you have to do with the shoulder and
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: hip movement?
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Along with two things?
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: The reason I dodge that hornet number one is because
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: I've been stung by one and they do sting just
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: for fun. There's thing for fun, honey bee sting? Do
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: you remember I had stung at Sanctuary? These guys sting
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: just because they're like having a bored warning. And two,
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: I avoid lightning why because it kills people. So I
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: think I'm pretty friggin smart. What did the lightning thing
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: come in? I just I'm saying the reason I avoid
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: is because they sting people. The reason I avoid lightning
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: is because it kills people. Any other advice, Yeah, kidding?
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Something else? Yeah, don't walk across the.
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  Speaker 6: What you just had a great line, and I think
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  Speaker 6: it would be a great title and great chorus in
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: a song getting honey from the hive. You're getting honey
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: from your hive. I think that's what that's really catch you, bru.
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: I didn't say. I didn't say that.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, this is something you've created in your head. You
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: said something. No, I mean I did.
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: Mosher spent the entire break talking to Chad about Chad's
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: got he's got.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: Bees too, So not yet, not yet. I'm planning on bees.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, he's planning bees. I've been with Chad for
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: three days. How many times he's talking about bees? Zero?
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: All right, how many times you've talked about bees?
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: Prompted?
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Yes, point ticket. I don't understand anything that you said.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: So a couple things here, What do you think about this?
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: Davis Webb he pulled the starting offensive line out of
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: team reps yesterday because they were continually having some false
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: start problems. Bulls McGlinchey, a couple different guys, And here's
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: his quote. That's not our standard.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: There's been really good offensive production here throughout the history
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: of our organization. We went through it in OTAs. If
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: we're not up to that standard, you can be taken out.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I don't care if you're a starter or a backup
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: here's something that I really like about this. I know
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: the players don't feel this way about Davis Webb, but
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: there is like this odd thing of everybody knows who's
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: in charge. Sean Payton's in charge of the entire operation.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: He's been in charge of the entire offense the last
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: three years.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: And.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Davis Web's a younger guy who is a rookie play
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: color is taking over for that guy. You have to
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: establish in some ways, even small ways, that I'm not
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: the substitute teacher, because we've all been in school when
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: the substitute's in, a few more spitballs get fired around
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: the room, a few more notes getting passed in the
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: back of the class. You need to have a respect
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: for this guy. Again, not saying that they don't, but
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: I think stuff like this can establish like this is
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: my operation.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Now, this is what I'm doing.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: I have a certain standard that I'm gonna hold you
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: two and yanked off the starting offensive line because they
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: keep messing up on the mental part of the game.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: I think it's just one of those aspects that he
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: can really put his stamp on the offense and say
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: I'm in charge.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: I think as long as you're consistent with your level
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: of punishments or what makes you punish players. The coach
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: who sometimes allows things and then decides to be harsh
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: because oh, the head coaches here, Now he's gonna be
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: of course he's gonna be a jerk. Now the head
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: coaches here. That gets under player skins and players and
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: like that. But if David's Webb has been who he's
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: been yesterday all camp long, then that's acceptable. And then
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: pre snap penalties there literally is no excuse because that
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: means you're not concentrating your garret bulls. You happen to
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: hold somebody in the course of the play trying to
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: protect your quarterback. We got some grace for that. You
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: don't know what the snap count is? Come on, man,
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: come on. That means you're not focused, You're not concentrating.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: So to have multiples from the offensive line group in
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: one period, yeah, I could see why Davis Webb would
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: be upset. And that's worthy of either being kicked out
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: of the drill or as on some teams, the whole
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: starting offense we'll have to go take a lap all
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: around the fields and come back. So punishment is weird
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: when you're a grown man. With tens of millions of
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: dollars in the bank. But yeah, that's how they do it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, players can sniff that out.
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: The guy's not being genuine who he's been now that
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: the head guy moses his way on over, I think
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: for all you youngins out there, and Chad was a
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: professional athlete, but let me try to let me try
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: to see something here that I think will go a
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: long way.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Consistency, Yes, is so key to life, bro.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: That's it's large, that's off. You know, that's just in relationships.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: In everything you do, consistency is the key and obviously
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: the right way, but consistency not not up and down
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: and porpoising and all this kind of thing. And you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: coaches love that way. It dove tails into a conversation
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: we were having the other day about this consistent player.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: The coach knows what he's going to get out of
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: this guy, whether he's you know, all pro or whether
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: he's a backup linebacker. When when he's employed and deployed,
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: the coach knows.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: And that's a I.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: Think that's a secure feeling for these guys. So yeah, man,
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: you practice good habits out here. Quit fall starting, get
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: your head in the game and be consistent so that
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: these things don't habitually show up unannounced during game day.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, I'm sure there's a listener out there
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: who had an inconsistent parent and you didn't know what
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: you were going home right when you walk in the door,
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: who was going to be there, whether you're going to
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: be greeted with love or you know, something awful. So yes,
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: coaches need to be consistent so the players can know
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: I can trust you, I can believe in you. You're
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: not putting on the show for the head coach. This
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: is just the standard which I've got to operate to
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: be under your coaching. So hopefully, Davis Web. I think
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: sometimes as young coaches, particularly coaches who are recently players,
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: have this thing where they want to be friends with
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: the players. Those aren't your friends. Those are the guys
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: you're in charge of. You've got to pull something out
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: of them that they could not do on their own
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: without your extra motivation and your standards that you're asking
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: into to adhere to. So hopefully Davis Web is that guy.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Because inconsistency, players will see it quickly and they'll begin
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: to tune that coach out.
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: I can be friendly with you, and we have been
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: friendly for the past seven and a half years right now,
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: doesn't mean we were friends.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: You see the difference there.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: Canador coaches can be friendly with their players, they'll be friends.
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: I can be friendly with you. Okay, you're a boy,
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: friendly wise, but friends with just the s on the end.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: Still working on that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I don't even think we're acquaintances, to be honest with.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Some days we're not and some days we're total bro.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: That's bro.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Christmas cards are they exchanged?
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I don't have Christmas cards. We're not a Christmas card family.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: Car with friends. Okay, yes, but someon I'm friendly with, I.
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: Would say, don't don't send me a Christmas card any
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: if anybody's listening, because it typically just goes in the trash.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: Can I look and say, oh, Jimmy and Susie with
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: little Johnny and Laurie, Oh they went to Cancun.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: You know, whatever gone?
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: That says something about you, man.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: I know, and the people, the people who write up
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: this is what everything that's happened to us the last year.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I'm reading all that. It's it's a fair question, though,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: what are you supposed to do with the Christmas card?
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: You're supposed to tape it to the fridge and admire
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: your friends every time you go on your fridge and
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: get a pick for how long? At least until mid January?
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, so just passed past the holiday.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: Then you got to save the return at you gotta
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: save their address if you don't have it, and then
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: you got to put in your book, and then you
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: got to write them in one so we get the
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: divisional round.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Of the playoffs. It's good to toss those by then. Correct, Okay, gotcha.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but tape to the fridge. That way you can go.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: You know, uh, looks like a little Johnny's growing up.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Next time you happen to bump into Bob and Sue.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: I had no idea he was getting so tall. You
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: have this is all conversational materials is relational glue is
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: to memorize the picture.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I want to I want to keep it.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Actually, I don't know if you guys watched the Office,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: but Michael Scott had note cards. Whenever we saw his clients,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: we could always say something about them that was personal.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I want to keep those Christmas cards in my pocket.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: And when I see, like if if Steve.
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: Gives me a Christmas card, and we're like, and how
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: is your son's three point seven GPA? Okay, we're two
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: days and whatever thirty minutes with Chad this week. Right,
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: I've already determined one thing. I've gleaned it pretty quickly
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: that he's a better person than both you and I.
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: I think we've seen that just from him hits. So
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: maybe you and I could use this time as a
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: growth growth opportunity with Chad this week.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, can I ask you guys something because I want
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: to do this eventually, and I think we'll do it
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: a little bit later in the week because I want
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: to make sure that Vick is here because I need
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: to see. Vic considers himself an expert in the subject
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: of music. We don't, but he considers himself that. So
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Pat McAfee just came out with this new I don't
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: know what his his album was, this new album, right,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: and I haven't heard any of it yet as an
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: international recording artist myself.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: And you so are you on multiple occasions for me,
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: I got to including the Nashville Laid Down last year,
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: which was awesome. That being said, I don't even know
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: what this thing's.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: About, so I don't either I'm bust annoying this because
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: I want to see I want to still have a
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: reaction on the air together and I want it to
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: be live. But McAfee has now dipped his toe in
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: the music waters. And I don't know if you've seen
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: this because of all the shakeups at ESPN their Monday
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Night Countdown crew. So it's Scott Van Pelt who's been there,
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: it's Jason mccordy who's been there. It is Marcus Spears
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: who has been there. I think Jason Kelsey's done some
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: stuff for him, and they've added McAfee now to their
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Countdown crew. And I know there's a lot of people
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: that don't like McAfee. There's a lot of people that
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: love McAfee. He is the king of ESPN now, he's everywhere.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: He's bigger than Steven A on that network. You can
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: just tell by how much he gets paid. But between
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: his show, he does College Game Day now, he does
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: multiple things on SportsCenter, he does the WWE stuff, he's
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: recording music now, he's on Monday Night Countdown. There's a
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: real risk of overexposure for Pat McAfee if there's not already.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: I think, well, you know, he owns his own show,
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: so they don't pay him for the show. They don't.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: They don't give him a salary, but they'll release it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: That is That is correct. But the other stuff, I mean,
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: how's he gonna I mean, he's gonna College Day and
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: game Day and then he's gonna go back to the
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: set and he's gonna do his regular show. I mean,
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: this is this guy's everywhere. I'll tell you this.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: I think that that College Game Day, which is a
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: show that I love that I would put, you know,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: inside the NBA is probably the best sports show that
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: exists at their studio show, I would put College Game
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Day right underneath. It's still I think it's a fantastic show,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: great way to get ready for the college football game day.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: I think that him on that show, he's excellent because
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: they needed some some zaniness without Lee course, so they're
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: doing the head gear picks and stuff like that. They
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: needed somebody with some energy. I don't know how this
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: fits on Monday Night football though, the sort of bro
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: talk version of it.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: I don't like it on College Game Day. It's I
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: think there's a difference between being funny and trying to
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: be a comedian. Yeah, and so Pat McAfee goes from
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: Lee Corso being funny to now he's trying to be
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: a comedian, the shirts off stuff, it's too much. And
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: now with this album, so let me let me get
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: this straight. The guy who's about to get a sixty
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: million dollar deal to license the show to ESPN is
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: it's continually dissed. Is continually doubted. I mean, I've read
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: some of the lyrics, I've listened to some of the songs.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: What is it? What kind of music is it?
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: It's a little bit of jelly roll, it's a little
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: bit of hip hop, trappy kind of beats, it's a
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: little bit of country. Five Pat McAfee with a Pittsburgh
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: accent trying to sing country. It's a little it's a
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: it's a mismatch common popular music across genres. And Pat
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: McAfee trying to explain I'm just a poor kid from
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh and know everyone's doted me and can't believe I'm
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: here in you know, f you to my haters, which
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: is essentially the album in a nutshell. If AI were
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: to generate a summary, that's what it would say.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Okay, and there is isn't it Funny people hang on
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: to that for so long, even when they have like
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: this huge success afterwards, and you're like, I understand that
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: it was a maybe a rough road to climb on
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: the way up, But how long are you at the
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: top before you can't really say that anymore?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: If Steve Jobs started Apple in a garage at a.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Entry level house, yeah, San Jose, California.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: If Steve Jobs was still alive today and he was like,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: you have no idea the way I was I was,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, I understand it was.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: It was a tough road up. You've been at the
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: mountaintop for a while now, though I don't know how
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: many people want to hear it that sort of thing.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: Michael Jordan in his Hall of Fame speech brought up
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: the guy who he was cut for from his high
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: school basketball team.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: So, I'm not even sure that's a chip. What is
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: that on Michael's shoulder? It's it's it's bigger than a boulder?
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Is it the entire planet? I mean, that's how big
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: does that thing have to be on your shoulder for
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: you can bring up that guy at your Hall of
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: Fame speech? Stop it, get some help.
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: Okay, it's the same thing when Lebron James says I
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: want my damn respect, and I'm going, dude, you've had
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: it from twenty two years You've you've had it. I mean,
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: you've been the best of the game for over two decades.
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: You've got there.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: You can't be.
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: Thirty nine years old. I want my damn respect when
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: you've done it. You've been the best player in the planet,
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: don't I don't get.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: That or what Tom Brady tearing up when he's like it's.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: Like Tiger when he won the Masters again. You know
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: later how many years ago he win the Master?
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: I think it was twenty nineteen, wasn't it. Yeah, I
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: want my damn respect. If you said that, I'd be
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: going like, dude, you get plenty dude, dude.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: There's a difference between people respecting you and your game
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: and demanding that everyone love you. Yes, those are two very,
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: very very different things. But when you're up top, you
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: take anyone not loving you as someone not respecting your talent,
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: someone not respecting your craft or the work that you
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: put in or the road that you climbed. No, we
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: respect that, Pat McAfee, but I don't have to buy
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: your album, and I don't have to love you, and
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: I don't have to think you're great for Monday night
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: countdown or college game day?
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: God, do I even go to Spotify and try to
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: listen to it? Do I even give it a daboid?
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Just hang on to it. I want to try. I
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: want to try what Chad's talking about. It's a great descriptor,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: a great sort of set the table for us. I
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: want us to do it live on the air sometime
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: before the end of the week. Want to play his
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: music on the air. We'll do a little live review.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: Why not expand your horizon?
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: Sounds like a waste of time. I don't want to
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: hear it. I don't want to hear a Pittsburgh accent going.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: I can't even do a Pittsburgh accent. Well, I want
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: my damn respect.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Okay, let's bet a hip hop a hip Just make
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: an agreement. You said it sounds like a waste of time.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: If you mention your bees anytime in the next two
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: weeks or yeah, two weeks, we're playing McAfee music.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll go ahead and we'll play McAfee. I'm not shrugging.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: Hold off on the bed listen, you're in a I mean,
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: do you have you heard our songs at all?
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Ever? Okay?
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: Good, okay, So at least you understand that we we've
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: been in the lab, we were accomplished musical artists.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: So I have I have now the respect he was
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: actually he was actually the best. He was actually the best.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: His rep was killer. All I'm saying is it feels
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: like it's a lot of mcaffee. It's a lot.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think the same thing happened, you know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Jason Kelsey's on this Monday night countdown team too. Is
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: that not what exactly what happened to the Kelsey's everybody
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: for if you just go back, when did the Eagles win.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: The Super Bowl? Was that three years ago? Yeah? Three?
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Kelsey retires, Jason does, and they come out with the
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: podcast and and all this different stuff, and people are like,
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: you know what, those guys are kind of funny, kind
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: of funny dudes.
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: But then dude starts dating and then they were but
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: then they were everywhere, and then you're like, you know what,
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: kind of sick of the Kelsey's.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Don't want to say him anymore. But then the the
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: you know, the starlet thing comes into play and then well,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: of course I just took them to a different stratosphere. Yeah, okay.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: If I were to sit down with some pr person,
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: I would say, I want to take advantage of this
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: opportunity as a super Bowl winner if I'm Kelsey, But
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: I also want long term sustained sussess. I don't want
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: to do a book and then have a cookbook and
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: then have a kid's book, and then go on talk shows.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: And then he had he had a five episode talk show.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: They tried to make him a late night host that Kelsey.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, then his wife.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: Doesn't she his wife was on the show.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Well, she has a podcast.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: She has a podcast too. So I think at some
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: point you get so greedy that you overexpose yourself and
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: attempts to strike while the iron is hot. Just keep
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: it kind of hot. Don't bring it to boil, because
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: then it boils over for everybody. Just stay kind of
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: hot for the long term. I guess that would be my.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: Just been able to escape I think that, and of
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: all of the athletes, it feels like Peyton Manning's done
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: a pretty good job at escaping that because he's been Look,
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: he's all over television commercials he had that that second word.
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: I haven't seen him in one for quite a while,
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: not for a while, but if you remember, he had
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: all the television commercials, he did the Monday night Football
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: all broadcast that he has, that manning cast.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: He was like hosting the SPS, he was hosting SNL
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: like he was. He was around a lot of places,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: and it didn't ever feel like people got total fit
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Peyton fatigue, though he.
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: Was being shoved down our throats for Kelsey, like McAfee
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: were subjected. Yes, yeah, we just kind of encountered Peyton
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: at these things that we were already doing versus now
• 34:39
  Speaker 9: you're shoehorning this guy in and he doesn't even fit.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: That's such a great point. I know, we got to
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: get to it here.
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's like I'm sitting in my house and
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: expecting a ding dong and opening the doors.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Hey it's uh, it's Jason Kelsey. What's up.
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: I'm just in your face right now because I'm everywhere
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: right selling windows. You need some windows.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: You can grab your friends for one time.
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  Speaker 4: Ramos Law. Can I give you guys a couple of
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: quirky baseball numbers that I saw yesterday? The Rockies they
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: fought in this game against the Dodgers last night at
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Coors Field. They made it a one run game in
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: the bottom of the ninth, but couldn't quite get there.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: The very obvious problem here is they just don't have
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: the pitching for this all star lineup that the Dodgers
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: have that they stacked up. Feldner gives up seven through five,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: and that's all the Dodgers needed.
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: With his DFA too, we haven't even talked about it. Well,
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, I guess you could see that coming a
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: mile away.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah he was.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: I mean he he had maybe two quality starts the
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: entire year, and I looked good.
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: And it looked good in the World Baseball Classic. I
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: still liked the move to go out and get him.
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: Here's the worst that happened. You paid three million bucks
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: this year for a guy who didn't work big deal,
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: but he got beat around the yard pretty good.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: No, he did, but it's like that's I think that's
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: a small risk with more reward than there is risk.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: If he played well, maybe you could deal him with
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: the deadline, you know whatever.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: It didn't work.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: The big thing, though, is is I saw this. I
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: saw this number and I couldn't believe it. So I
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: one of my favorite players ever was vlad Guerrero Senior.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Loved him, old Blad, Old Lad. Young Vlad's really good too.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: I love young Viol.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Ok, you want to hear a number about young Vladimir
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Guerrero Junior that you're not gonna believe. The guy who's
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: banging home runs in the home run derby just last
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: year or two years ago? Did you know he has
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: not hit a home run in Toronto since August seventeenth
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: of last year.
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: Wow, he has a seven hole park. He has seven
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: homers on the year, all on the road. He has
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: not hit a home run in his home state since
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: August seventeenth of last year.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: That guy, that's that's weird.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: What do you what?
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: I have?
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: No?
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: I what accounts for that?
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: I have?
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: No idea, because look, this is I was looking through
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: his numbers before. It's not like he's been hurt. He
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: played in one hundred and fifteen games this year. He's
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: been really healthy.
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: But you see forty eight home runs in twenty twenty one,
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: thirty two, twenty six, thirty twenty three seven this year.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what that is.
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: When you fall off the cliff, you fall off the cliff.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: So look, man, I I think the other the other
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: sports or or positions in sports that I could most
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: compare it to when somebody just like loses it. Cayl
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Tucker's dealing with this, and with the Dodgers too, hes
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: paid sixty million dollars a year.
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: He was just crying in the Dogs. I saw him,
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: I saw him wiping away tears. I saw that night,
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: good night last night. But for sixty mil, I mean
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: for sixty mil per by the way, the Dodgers, Oh,
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: I'm just this is me. Excuse me. We're gonna talk
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: about that sometime. Yeah, but with this guy selling the Lakers,
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: so now having to.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Sell these just for a second, just for a second,
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: because I do want to get to that in just
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: a minute.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Now you're seeing how the Dodgers got to be the
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: way they are.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: But I've always said, I think the only thing that's comparable,
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: and I look, I haven't played every sport, so I
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: don't know, but the things that seem obvious to me.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: When a guy just kind of loses it mentally in baseball,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: it's so hard for these guys to get it back.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: Like cal Rawley, who just had a sixty home run
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: season for the Mariners last year, is hitting one fifty
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: nine this year and can't get the ball out of
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: the ballpark. So once you lose that confidence, it's so
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: hard to get it back. And I would compare that
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: to a golfer. I think a golfer who gets a
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: case that the Shanks has that or chat. I'm sure
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: you've seen this before. There have been great kickers who
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: just can't do it anymore. They're so in their head
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: they just can't do it. And I think it's the
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: only thing maybe comparable, in that sense. But man, it's
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: it's wild to see now he's still hitting two sixty three.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: It's not like he can't put the bat on the ball.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Oh thank you. Bronco has brought some donuts out. Thanks,
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: thank you.
• 39:09
  Speaker 9: I hope you had a sweet about that.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Who wrote that. It's very clever. Yeah, God, bless it.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, good stuff, Thank you. Thank you to broncos pr
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: for the donuts this morning.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: It's basically, these are like, get the hell out of
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: here now.
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: It is interesting that this is a box for a
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: dozen and they count it. Well, there's only four of
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: these guys.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: So I thought the penners don't cut costs. What's going
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: on here?
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: But anyway, I want to give you one other thing
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: real quick before you get to the Dodger's owner shop.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: I don't I can do that later, but this, I
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: hear what you're saying.
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: It's kind of fascinating to watch these guys just just
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: drop off.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Young Wayku was like an amazing kicker. And then remember
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: last year when he kicked the turf. Yes, like missed
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: the ball and stuck his foot in the turf.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: We're talking about, at least from my perspective, two different things,
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: the yips versus falling off the cliff. Yes, because falling
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: off the cliff is the age thing. The yips is
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: the mental fright. Yes. I don't think there's another position
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: in football outside a kicker that gets the yips. I
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: know there's baseball players who suddenly can't throw the first
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: base anymore, which has just been mind blowing to me
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: when I've seen those kind of stories. But outside of
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: the kicker, that's the only position in football I think
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: it's subjected to that kind of thing.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: It's so weird because when you talk about the yips
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: from people throwing, I mean the famous stories for pitchers,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: I mean Ricky and Keel was a really big pitching
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: prospect and he was hitting the backstop with his fastball.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: They put him in right field. He can throw a
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: seed from the right field corner all the way to
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: home plate, right on the money. John Lestro is a
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: great pitcher for the Red Sox and the Cubs. For
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: all those years, he couldn't throw a ball to first base.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: He couldn't pick off. Yeah, and people would steal on
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: them all the time because they're like, he can't do it.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We talk about Steve Sachs a lot. He was.
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: In fact, Sacks I think was probably the first one
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: of my youth that I really that that the the
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: yips became a thing.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: So Chuck non blocked for me.
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so and Chuck developed the same thing, but this
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: was a you know all this just one day I
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: can't throw the ball to first base. So that was
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: the first time I was really cognizantly aware that a
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: guy can get the yips and then it's it could
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: ruin him. I mean, Steve Sacks has fielded up until
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: that point in his life. He probably is fielded and
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: thrown to first base from second base one hundred thousand
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: times in his life.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't.
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: I mean for every game and every practice and every
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: ground ball he fielded, and then one day you can't
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: throw it to first base. I mean, I don't know
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: how that happens. The human brain is a very unique thing.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: So I want to play a trivia game with youmage,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: don't cheat. Okay.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: This is each MLB team's last player to home run
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: in a postseason, to hit a homer in a postseason. Okay,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: so a whole bunch of these teams. Obviously, I have
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: guys from last year, two years, I got three years ago.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Then you get to the teams that are at twenty
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: twenty one and earlier.
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: Who's the last Rockey hit a postseason home run? Who
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: is the last Rocky? You hit a postseason homer. Good God,
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: Almighty howker No, it's it was more recent than that.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: We can go to two thousand and seven. Obviously, that
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: magical run, but they've got in after that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: What I know him? Is it like, oh yeah, yeah,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: some obscure son.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: But the it's less the name and more of the
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: year is Pulo Trevor's story in two story, So twenty seventeen.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: There have been three teams that have had a home
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: run later than that. The Angels in twenty fourteen was
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: the last time they hit a postseason home run.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Who hit it?
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: The Angels twenty fourteen. Trout wasn't there, was it? Trout
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: couldn't be drought Albert poolholes.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Albert pool holes, good God, twenty.
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: Fourteen Albert pooholes. The other two is the Pirates had
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: Pedro Alvarez in twenty three teen, and the Reds, who
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: are dead last.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Hold on, what.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: Year was it?
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: No?
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: No?
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Twenty thirteen. Shin suit Chew was the last one to
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: hit a home run.
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: Everybody knows Shin shoo shooohoo cheo.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Everyone knows too to chew to put chew.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: Anyway, So the Dodgers, they beat the Rockies last night
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: seven to six.
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: Just this Dodger thing. I would encourage everybody today to
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: go to the Wall Street Journal. I'm not talking to Brett. Hey, Brett,
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: why don't you pick up a Wall Street Journal I read.
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: I would Georgia go on go on line to the
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: Wall Street Journal. There's a great article about this Mark
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: Walter guy and about it's gonna make a lot of
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: sense on how we acquired the Dodgers originally, and how
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: he acquired the Lakers, and now why he's he's selling
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: things off quickly to try and satisfy He got two
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: bill cash from the Lakers, right net Well, I think
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: regulators want him to come up with like twenty bill
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: to satisfy what what allegedly has been doing. Now there's
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: no there's no you know, nobody's been arrested yet or anything.
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: But the feds are looking into him hard because he
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: has these companies, and he's loaning money from one of
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: his companies to another one of his companies, and then
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: he's acquiring all these different things, like the Dodgers, Like
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: what's his faces? He bought this house in Malibu for
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: eighty five million dollars. This kind of thing right, and
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: so it's it's fascinating. But you see the way the
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: Dodgers are constructed. Yeah, and he's kicked over a billion
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: dollars of salary down the road because he doesn't have
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: the he doesn't have the cash, I don't think right
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: now to pay it, right, So he's kicked it down
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: the road and he's been doing these things. Now is
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: it illegal what he's been doing. I don't know, but
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: they're gonna find out, and they're they're they're like, they're up.
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: They got a microscope on him right now. So let's
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: get into more detail on that in just a little bit.
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: I mean, we don't even have to be just infuriates
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: me that the Dodgers of these they do it right,
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: well this, but I do want.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: To that would be interesting if he defaults on a contract,
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: a player contract.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: There's no way that can happen.
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: That would be the first time in major Well, he's.
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: Gonna sell the Dodgers. He's selling the Dodgers off before
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: these come due. Okay, So whoever whoever buys the Dodgers
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: is going to inherit. They're the going to inherit this
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: this debt.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Well, you wonder with show Hey, it's like, how do
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: you sign him to a three quarters of a billion
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: dollar contract and kicks seven hundred million down the line.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: It's like, Oh, because I.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: Can't pay it. Maybe that's why. So we'll get back
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: to this in just a little bit. Is round here
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: at Broncos Park back after this