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Jeff Tweedy on Twilight Override, Making a Triple Album, and Radical Hope · Kyle Meredith With...

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  [SPEAKER_02]: and that's me Kyle Meredith today.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be talking with Jeff Tweety of Wilco.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: One of the greatest artists of all time.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Jeff Tweety, the kind of artist who makes neurotic self-examination sound like a public service.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: As the frontman of Wilco, he spent the past three decades turning anxiety, grief, fleeting joy.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: into Grammy-winning Alt Country, Dadrock Masterpieces, and the occasional Art Noise Detour just keep the loyalists guessing like myself.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's also found time to be a producer and author of podcast guest, a professional overthinker with a knack for writing songs that sound like therapy sessions scored for slide guitar.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And today, he's back with a, well, I was gonna say a new album.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a triple album, a triple solo album.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's called Twilight Override, clocking in at 30 songs across three discs, nice round number.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: The project explores the past present and future.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Not as a rigid concept record, but as a flowing arc of memory, of meaning and hope.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Jeff's going to share how the record was inspired by the voices of his touring band, how riding for the harmonies pushed the songs and new emotional territory.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's also going to reflect on post-pandemic generational trauma, the ongoing challenge of maintaining empathy in a fractured world.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: and the creative power and resisting doom scroll culture.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: All that and a whole lot more, uh, this was exciting.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the first time he's ever been on show, I don't know how it's taken this long.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so excited to be talking about Twilight override.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's Kyle Meredith with Jeff Tweedy.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Hello, how are you?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I was I was thinking beforehand.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I was laughing because I've had Nick Offerman on here on this show probably three times and every single time I believe we've talked about you Well, that because we're in love
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's the first time I've had you on here.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's to, I mean, I can't say he hasn't told anything that's not already out there because he puts you in a book as well.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But if there's anything that you need to air out about Nick Offerman now is probably the time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so, I think it's all, he's exactly as he appears to be a adorable human.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Well man, twilight override this, you know, yes.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You hear about the record, right?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's 30 songs and you say triple album and you go, okay.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Has he gone full Billy Corrigan on this thing?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What is this?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's not that, I mean, I really do have to compliment you.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It would be so easy for this to be a mess, it would be so easy for so much of this to be a throwaway thing we've seen that in the past, this ain't that, and I shouldn't be surprised because you are, you are one of the great songwriters, but this is an incredible record.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I could do an interview over each disc, but what's the story?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What's the general story here?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: How did you land on this?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I've done a few solo records in the past 10 years.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I did a record as Tweetie, which was kind of a solo record.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And the general process for the solo records has been that I kind of play everything and Spencer and Sammy on the most recent stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: My kids end up coming in.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: mostly falls under the per view of of tweety musicianship or singing, you know, and but we've put together a band that's been together for a while now to go out and play these songs on warm warmer and love as a king and those records.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I always come home from those tours and those shows feeling like we've kind of improved the arrangements with the amount of voices that we have.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we have Seema, Cunningham, and Macy Stewart, and they're, you know, that's female.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And Liam, Cunningham, are Liam,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And he, you know, he's he sings great and I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We've kind of developed all these vocal harmonies for songs that don't really have them on the on the previous records.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And so I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I just got into my head.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to write a lot of material for those voices and thinking that we'd go out and and start from that point instead of ending up there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I guess that felt kind of inspiring to me just because I just kept adding to the pile.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And we kept recording and...
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It just kept getting deeper and more substantial and then it felt to me like that was a part of the statement of the record is for it to be big-hearted and open and like oversharing maybe over to some degree but you know
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  [SPEAKER_00]: grandiose isn't really the right word, but expansive, you know, just like, you know, in a different time, we might say, letting it all hang out or something, like, I don't think that sounds very good.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, just an openness, you know, it was just an open-hearted, big-hearted kind of display of affection, I don't know, I just want to talk about it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I love writing songs, I love singing with these people, I love playing music with my family.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I love reaching out and making a connection.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And over time, and I also kind of put together a little bit of a story that it sense with these three records.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not necessarily a concept, but a flowing arc.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's sequenced to me.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's sequenced in a way that doesn't feel like a triple record.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I can listen to it all in one sitting.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And if I can, then surely there's one or two of you out there that might be able to.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: and we'll be right back right after this.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back, it's Kyle Meredith with Jeff Tweedy.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And with this idea that you've at least wrote about it and it's, but by the way, beautifully written album bio that you put out there about sort of the past present and future and looking at like that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And in that same bio, you sort of talked about how, of course,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if escape is the right word, but what's going on in the world, you know, it was a kind of way to get past that and I'm bringing that up.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Because I've quoted one of your lines, God, I've hope I've quoted it right for years now and it actually brings me comfort when I say every generation thinks it's the end of the world.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's, I think it's true.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a human flaw, maybe, that we have trouble seeing past ourselves, you know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it seems like we know that we're mortal.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We know that there's an end.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But we don't really have the imagination to picture a world without us.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think I first noticed that in that feeling when I felt betrayed, driving by my old high school after I graduated.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And like, what are they doing?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: What are these people doing now?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Doing everything just without you.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they go for you.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, there went why would they bother?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But that's they're just there to torment me and in some hellscape of your past, these still are, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like it's like, I really live for that all the time.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What's there's a line on here, I'm always going back there again and again from forever never ends.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Is that we're hitting on right there?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a dream of we are.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, we all,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: probably need a little therapy at this moment or from time to time, but specifically at this moment, it feels like I'm walking around seeing a lot of traumatized people, not not just even politically, I think culturally post-pandemic, I think that there's a lot of on
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  [SPEAKER_02]: whatever, untreated undiagnosed and maybe ignored or hoping it'll go away kind of feeling surrounding a very real generational trauma, you know, but the way I guess go back to what we were talking about too, because the way you framed some of this stuff, I guess we really are first dose of that in parking lots, you know, is where in the past version of this concept there, which by the way,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: the delivery like it could not hear King Missile and little bits.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a little shimmy disc in me, probably.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right, right, right, right, but as I'm saying, but that, you know, to hit back at those parts, and it's done in a funny way, like parking lots.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not funny, but it is, you know, forever never ends has a fun story on there.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, are these.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Because the songwriter can mumble some words into a microphone to figure out some words and then kind of put it together afterwards, but there's something about this that feels really.
• 10:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's definitely, especially on the first disc.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But throughout the record, there are, I think that there's abstractions, and there's songs that are like pure word, poetry, and sounds, and stuff like that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But I think to me, it deepens it when you actually look at the camera and remind people that you are a person that has had real experiences, and you're not just making it all up,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: uh, funny and important and, you know, and, and sad and, and liberating and, you know, like, oh, it's like a lot of things and that's one of the reasons I guess it felt bright to make it a 30-song record, you know, because to me every sequence I tried to make up a one record,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: felt like it was missing some of that conversation between dissonance and harmony and, I don't know, just the way life's are and, and it really is the thing, there's really is this, this is the thing that has provided a consolation to me my whole life, not.
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: not just my own music, but other people's music, but the process of making music.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think I say I'm my, my, my vial that, you know, there's maybe a reason there's a lot of it going on because I think it's, it's a, it's a healthy.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: pretty adaptive way of our healthy adaptation to the current environment, you know, it's like, if you're trying to stay in some spot where you have some power, you know, over things.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, making, you can, I don't know, I think a healthy reaction to the inhumanity that we witness on a daily basis through our devices and is to say, well, I reject that.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I reject that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I, I reserve the right to envision a beautiful world and I reserve the right to make my world past, present, and future, poledic.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And, and, and, and, and, um,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: were the of light, you know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's very important.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, obviously, because it's so easy to get caught up in it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's so easy to get sucked into some kind of spiral vortex that, you know, that you just repeat every single day headline headline headline headline headline.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like a mental, I mean, it really, I feel like with everybody.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Not everybody, that's too broad, but I think a lot of us and myself included have spent a lot of the last 10 years or so waking up every morning and putting ourselves into a cage, voluntarily, waking up and putting ourselves in the cage, turning around and locking it and throwing the keys out of reach.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a really hard habit to break.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't, that's what it feels like to me.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like, well, how did I get here?
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, should I be waking up thinking about things?
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have little control over and people that I despise and think every morning, is that a good way to live your life?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Or are you wasting the opportunity to think and feel freely how you want to feel?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that I'm advocating for anybody ignoring, I don't think that's possible to ignore the important issues if you're a thinking feeling person and being aware is different.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Then what we're talking about, I think.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There's some part of us that it's like satisfying.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There's some biological reason, I think, people thrive on some outrage or something.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, they certainly, they figured that out.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: In terms of social media, that's what it was really happening.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And so I don't know, this is what happens when I try and do a lot less of that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I write even more songs and then my already kind of prolific nature.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: and we'll be right back right after this.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back, it's Kyle Meredith with Jeff Tweety.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I guess that's really poignant when we look at that third disc too, because you call that future.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And this isn't a dystopian record by any means, which would be an easy route.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And great albums, right?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: There are great albums about stuff like that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And like what did you want that disc to say if you don't mind such a broad question?
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: To me, where that record, what ended up on that record or the things that illustrate to me that it's not predictable, it's less, even the intrusions of the past that are on the disc, whatever would be called the future, aren't predictable.
• 15:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if different memories of my past are gonna happen in the next few years because that happens.
• 16:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: You could get about things and all of a relatively insignificant part of your life that you thought you had bypassed even ever thinking about again.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: A search itself in some way that is transformative, or that you realize that that was a bigger moment than you thought it was.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I guess in general, what I would hope that it communicates is
• 16:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: encouraging in myself and others of a deeper belief in radical self individual expression, you know, it's a good you hated expression, you know, and and I don't
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you make a beautiful future without being able to dream it up, being able to allow your mind to stay in a place that contains just enough hope to picture something better.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like that line because the whole thing ends with enough, which is funny because you've got a song called This Is How It Is, and that's not how the album ends, but it's
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: and there's a negative version of that line and there's a very positive version of that line like like the fact that you even want to says that I thought that that you know I could have riddled the whole
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  [SPEAKER_00]: record down to a couple of lines.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's hard to stay up with everyone.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I could have just printed that out and a text or something to everybody.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a cool, I mean, that's a great song, too.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I want to quickly hit, because I know we got a few minutes here, but the music on here, too, like, you know, pick your 20, right?
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think,
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think maybe bull black Nova sits on the top for me and always has.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: As long as it's existed, immediately, I love that song.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I love the feel of that song.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of feeling of that song on this record.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We talk about that dissonance and harmony, right?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's all over the music of this.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's natural.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Is there any reason why you kind of gravitate towards because you got these beautifully messy solos on here, even even I don't have to have the title right love is for love.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's almost like Willie Nelson's version of a solo like that, you know, I love that stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, thank you
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, I let myself play a lot more guitar on the solo records more recent, you know, like I think in general in the last few years I've played more, I mean, I have Nelson's Klein and Wilco, um, and over time, I've kind of centered my, you know, role in Wilco more
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that that's not to say that that won't change in Wilco either, you know, like that there's room for, there's room on stage for sure when the Wilco plays, there's room for three guitar players or more, you know what, like, bring it, yeah, but yeah, I think that there's a personal nature to the, what, well, very individuated self-expression, you know, I don't think that I wouldn't
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: want anybody to try and sound like me.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I'm trying to sound like anybody all there can hear elements of different people that I've loved playing the guitar, but mostly it's just I'm not worried about any technique other than my own, and it feels really really good to me in the same way that it feels good to sing a lyric that I feel that I believe in.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so I think I let myself do a little bit more of that and again, that's one of those things where if you didn't put out a triple record And if you like you didn't have this expansive nature you would cut down on some guitar solvus and you would like eliminate that I don't know that that type of communication that's some of my favorite moments of this record to and when you get a That song, you know Lou Reed was my babysitter like that starts to make a lot of sense when you hear that stuff in there Yeah, that's cool and and I'll quickly say because this
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think hilariously comes out on the 30th anniversary of Wilcoe, right?
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's this year.
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it wasn't 95.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hope I'm getting my math, right?
• 20:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I just thought a lot of people, a lot of people go for the big cash grab tour, a 30th anniversary tour, the big bucks, which F2D say triple solo album.
• 20:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we've resisted a lot of nostalgia for a long time.
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, as a band, I think that we've consciously tried to avoid being sentimental about our own history, you know?
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like it's a trap and if we were a band that had broken up and gotten back together after 20 years or something like that, maybe that would make more sense.
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: But we've tried to justify our existence by making new records and standing behind them and trying to at least
• 21:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: communicate that we're an ongoing endeavor, you know, as always to something.
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we did some shows reliving, you know, some past albums.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: We did thank you hotel fox, this entirety, and it felt really beautiful like a real celebration.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it, it wasn't like we could play those songs like that back then, you know, we were actually using the the history and the feeling that has grown up around that record
• 21:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love what you all do.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love what you do with your family and the Tweety stuff and Twilight override.
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Seriously Jeff, this is such a good record and there's so much just to live with that I'm so happy you did.
• 21:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: So congrats on it, man.
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And seriously, thank you so much for taking the time to talk about it.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: My pleasure.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And say hi to Nick next time you talk to him.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm sure to be sooner than later.
• 22:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks to me.
• 22:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right on, man.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Take care.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you around.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: See ya.
• 22:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
• 22:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: My thanks to Jeff.
• 22:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: The new album is called Twilight Override.
• 22:17
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  [SPEAKER_02]: One of my recent shows featured some classics and favorites from Dusty Springfield, Fanny, Clover, County, YouTube, Paul Weller.
• 23:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Joni Mitchell, Atlantis, Morrisett, Tom Petty, Bonavair, White Reaper, his golden messenger, Kebmo, the last dinner party, ruined brother's replacement, Sarah McLaughlin, Yasmin Hamden, and my interviews with Richard Ashcroft of the Verth, Colin Newman of Wire, and John Bradley.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: of Game of Thrones and 3-Body Project.
• 23:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what you get when you turn in week 9 starting 6pm Eastern at WFPK.ORG.
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Consequence as your music and film news, you can also find me on any of the social media sites.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: The address is always at Kyle Meredith.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hope you do like and follow along.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: That does it for another edition.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm Kyle Meredith.
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll see you next time.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Consequence podcast network, it's easy to hear your favorite artist on WFPK from wherever you are.
• 24:02
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