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Canada Has Pledged Allegiance to the CCP · Booker Scott: Truth Be Told

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott.
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Speaker 2: You know, I can remember when I was a kid,
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Speaker 2: my mom asking me to go to the neighbor and
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Speaker 2: get an egg or a cup of sugar. She would
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Speaker 2: send me over there, and I would grab it from them,
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Speaker 2: and I was so proud of myself scurrying back to
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Speaker 2: my mom with that egg or sugar. It was normal
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Speaker 2: back then. Not so much today. Today, I'm not even
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Speaker 2: sure we know our neighbors' names, much less ask them
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Speaker 2: to borrow something. Times change. That's one thing we can
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Speaker 2: are changes, we still have friends and family that are
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Speaker 2: our bedrock. The ones that we can always count on,
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Speaker 2: no matter what. In a rapidly transforming world, alliances are evolving.
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Speaker 2: Sides are being picked. As always, there will be winners
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Speaker 2: and losers. I'm Booker Scott, and this is The Truth
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Speaker 2: the over 50 platforms available, thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: making that extra effort. Of all of America's neighbors and allies,
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Speaker 2: the one I always knew that this nation could count
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Speaker 2: on was our neighbor to the north, Canada, an extension
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Speaker 2: of the USA and the USA an extension of Canada.
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Speaker 2: We need a cup of sugar or an egg. Canada
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Speaker 2: has always been America's neighbor. Our wars have been just that,
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Speaker 2: our wars. Bound by a northern border and the likeness
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Speaker 2: of wholesome traditional values, Canada's sons have died with America's
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Speaker 2: in every war we have fought since the War of 1812.
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Speaker 2: Battlefields are littered with Canadian and American limbs and life.
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Speaker 2: bloodshed by both for both. In the eyes of many
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Speaker 2: in America, mine included, Canada has showed signs of evolving itself,
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Speaker 2: an evolution that takes it further from America's and closer
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Speaker 2: to the Chinese Communist Party. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau allowed
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Speaker 2: Chinese troops to train just over America's northern border. During COVID,
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Speaker 2: Canada appeared more like the surveillance state of the CCP,
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Speaker 2: not a land of freedom and liberty. Truckers were debanked
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Speaker 2: and thrown in jail. Pastors were torn from their congregations,
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Speaker 2: ripped from their pulpits, shackled and jailed. Our two lands
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Speaker 2: that shared so much no longer mirrored one another. There
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Speaker 2: were signs. But the signs, while sometimes faint, became neon
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Speaker 2: clear a couple of weeks ago when Canada's new Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister pledged allegiance to China and the CCP. No longer
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Speaker 2: is America's neighbor for cups of sugar and an egg,
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Speaker 2: no longer a counted confidant, but suddenly an enemy to
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Speaker 2: the United States of America. Am I hyperbolic? Is this
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Speaker 2: too late? I really don't think we can answer that
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Speaker 2: question now. But when Mark Carney said Canada was happy
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Speaker 2: to join China as a partner in this new world order,
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Speaker 2: Americans should have shuddered at the utterance. Canada is the
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Speaker 2: second largest country in the world behind Russia. It covers
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Speaker 2: more than 3.8 million square miles. Its resources make it rich,
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Speaker 2: with 10 provinces or states and an additional three territories.
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Speaker 2: The large area has led to some regionalism. There is
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Speaker 2: a beaming bright light for liberty and freedom in an
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Speaker 2: enclave of Canadian patriots. It's called Alberta. Tonight, we are
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Speaker 2: joined by one of those patriots fighting for freedom, a broadcaster,
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Speaker 2: a reporter, a true Canadian. Joe Rampart is his name.
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Speaker 2: He's been on the program before, and I think it's
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Speaker 2: way past time for another visit. In this rapidly moving world,
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Speaker 2: the alignments and realignments we see geopolitically could have life-altering consequences.
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Speaker 2: But one neighbor I know America can always count on
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Speaker 2: for an egg or a cup of sugar is Joe Rampart. Joe,
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Speaker 2: welcome back to the program.
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Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much, Booker. It's an absolute pleasure
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Speaker 3: to be having this discussion with you. It's time neighbors talked. Indeed.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it may be way past time for us
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Speaker 2: to talk. When I heard Carney's words, and I'm going
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Speaker 2: to play it here for us in just a minute,
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Speaker 2: but it really shook me because, as you just heard
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Speaker 2: in the opening there, those are my feelings, that's the
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Speaker 2: way I feel about Canada. It was maybe something that
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Speaker 2: I just always took for granted. I don't know if
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Speaker 2: you feel the same way about that. We just always
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Speaker 2: knew we were together. Is that fair?
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Speaker 3: I think initially it would be a fair assessment, but
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Speaker 3: there's more to it than that. As you mentioned yourself,
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Speaker 3: or specifically, I think, more so over the last 15 years,
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Speaker 3: as our current government, the leading party that transformed government
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Speaker 3: in Canada, the Liberal government, has gone more post-national state,
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Speaker 3: more globalist in nature, more global in pursuit, as opposed
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Speaker 3: to shoring up the neighborhood, as it were, which is,
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Speaker 3: of course, the proper thing to do. So I think
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Speaker 3: that's what we're looking at here. People are starting to
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Speaker 3: feel that Canada really can't be ignored now that Canada
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Speaker 3: is walking down the block across the global scale, as
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Speaker 3: it were, as opposed to having a neighborhood party and
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Speaker 3: getting together and shoring up our neighborhood.
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Speaker 2: Joe, do you believe that the tariffs that President Trump
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Speaker 2: put on Canada were the deciding factor for Carney making
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Speaker 2: a decision to partner with China?
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Speaker 3: No, I don't see it as the impetus as to
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Speaker 3: why Canada went to China. Most people who have been
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Speaker 3: following the Canadian situation, maybe even as far back as
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Speaker 3: the trucker convoy in January, February of 22, it became
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Speaker 3: very apparent that there were members of the Liberal Party
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Speaker 3: that were sitting, members of Parliament that were investigated and
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Speaker 3: found to have been somewhat aided in their election by China,
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Speaker 3: where a lot of our sitting members of parliament are
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Speaker 3: actually beholding to Chinese interests. China has long had a
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Speaker 3: serious hold on Canada, even to the point where at
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Speaker 3: one point the CCP did have police stations in several
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Speaker 3: Canadian cities. So this partnership that's been developing between Canada
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Speaker 3: and China has been going on a lot longer than
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Speaker 3: this current spot that's developed over the Trump issue with tariffs.
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Speaker 3: Do I see the tariffs as a motivator for more
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Speaker 3: trade towards China? It may be perceived that way, but
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Speaker 3: in reality, we take a look at what Canada and
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Speaker 3: China's trade and it's minuscule compared to the Canadian-U.S. trade volume.
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Speaker 3: So when I look at it, is this the right
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Speaker 3: thing for Canada to be doing? Is this the right
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Speaker 3: road for Canada to be taking? No, I don't, specifically
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Speaker 3: considering a lot of people have not looked at exactly
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Speaker 3: what happened between the Canadian trade delegation, as it were,
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Speaker 3: and what was said in Beijing and what agreements were
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Speaker 3: came to. When we take a look at exactly what
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Speaker 3: that trade deal was, and I've got the actual stats here,
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Speaker 3: it was basically Canada agreed to take on 49,000 Chinese
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Speaker 3: EVs and reduce the tariff down to 6.3%. At the
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Speaker 3: same time, China agreed to allow canola production, canola to
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Speaker 3: be shipped to China because there was a complete embargo
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Speaker 3: of canola, Canadian canola from China, that just would devastate
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Speaker 3: the Canadian agricultural market. So I think the goal of
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Speaker 3: the Canadian government was to deal with the canola issue
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Speaker 3: and were willing to make concessions, any concession, to get
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Speaker 3: that canola deal reversed. And the concession of 49,000 electric
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Speaker 3: vehicles at only, you know, six plus a few points
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Speaker 3: tariff seemed to be the thing that worked. Will it
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Speaker 3: work long time? No, I don't believe it will. We're
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Speaker 3: projecting right now where we're probably going to have acres,
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Speaker 3: if not hectares, of vehicles sitting, non-recoverable, non-usable, as we
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Speaker 3: see the electric graveyards, as they're called. And I can
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Speaker 3: certainly foresee those being part of the landscape in Canada
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Speaker 3: in the future as a result of this deal.
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Speaker 2: I want to play the audio of Mark Carney here,
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Speaker 2: because when he said the New World Order, that's what
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Speaker 2: really caught my attention. And as I put this together
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Speaker 2: with everything else that's going on in the world, with
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump talking about the Monroe Doctrine and making sure
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Speaker 2: that this hemisphere is secure, which would include Canada, unless
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Speaker 2: Canada is tied tightly to China and the CCP. But
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Speaker 2: here is Prime Minister Mark Carney in Canada.
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Speaker 4: Strategic partners, from energy to agriculture, to people-to-people ties, to multilateralism,
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Speaker 4: to issues on security. I believe the progress that we
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Speaker 4: have made in the partnership sets us up well.
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Speaker 2: For the new world.
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Speaker 1: Order.
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Speaker 2: What's Carney talking about there when he says the new
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Speaker 2: world order?
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Speaker 3: Well, I heard that. My first impression was we're dealing
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Speaker 3: with a Bush moment, trying to control the narrative. Carney
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Speaker 3: being a globalist and a global cabal wanting to shift
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Speaker 3: away from the the current systems that are in play.
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Speaker 3: This is the name they've chosen, this new world order.
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Speaker 3: But then again, I had to sit back and realize
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Speaker 3: that whatever is said at Davos during the WEF meeting
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Speaker 3: is typically a lot of theater. And in reality, when
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Speaker 3: we take a look at the audience that was present
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Speaker 3: at that speech at Davos, it was so small compared
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Speaker 3: to Trump's address to WEF at the time. So Arnie
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Speaker 3: really has zero clout at WEP. And the Davos, I
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Speaker 3: think a lot of the government is trying to figure
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Speaker 3: out how can we walk that back. And now we're
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Speaker 3: starting to see that this week as the government has
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Speaker 3: come out to say that, you know, like even the
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Speaker 3: trade minister said that there's really no specific new trade
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Speaker 3: deal coming into play with China. That was not the
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Speaker 3: purpose of the visit. The purpose of the visit was
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Speaker 3: to do with the canola embargo and see what concessions
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Speaker 3: needed to be made in order to alleviate that.
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Speaker 2: So why would Carney say that if that is the
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Speaker 2: position of the government? He represents the government as the
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Speaker 2: prime minister himself. Why would he go that far sitting
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Speaker 2: across the table from a Chinese delegation?
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Speaker 3: Having read his book, Mark Carney wrote a book.
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Speaker 2: I have not read it.
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Speaker 3: A very dry book. And the title is most revealing. Values,
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Speaker 3: whereas it's values, parentheses, S, parentheses. And the overall essence
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Speaker 3: of the book is to formulate a mindset where values,
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Speaker 3: what you value is commoditized now and that that commodity
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Speaker 3: now has an economic value to it. It's where he's
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Speaker 3: turning Canada around to what I like to say is
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Speaker 3: basically just to be the farmland of the new world
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Speaker 3: order where Canada is ripe for the plucking. And of course,
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Speaker 3: being the leader of the Canadian government, that's all he is,
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Speaker 3: is a leader of a party that happens to have
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Speaker 3: enough members to maintain control of the House of Commons.
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Speaker 3: His real goal is globalism, not Canadianism. I see him
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Speaker 3: as an actual enemy to the nation of Canada.
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Speaker 2: And that makes Canada, in some ways, an enemy of America,
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Speaker 2: in my view, because... If you're talking about the New
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Speaker 2: World Order and the globalists and the elites that align
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Speaker 2: for a one-world government with China in the lead, that's
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Speaker 2: why what he said got my attention. That's why it
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Speaker 2: was very bothersome to me. I've talked about it quite
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Speaker 2: a bit on this program, and I've even said that
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Speaker 2: on Friday after he said that, I had to call
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Speaker 2: my pastor. Let's find out where this aligns scripturally. Here's
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Speaker 2: what I'm seeing. Here's what I believe is happening. What
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Speaker 2: does this mean? And we had a conversation about that.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to get into that in this conversation
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Speaker 2: with you, but that's how much this bothered me as
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Speaker 2: an American to see this. And I don't know if
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Speaker 2: the people of Canada realize that a guy like me
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Speaker 2: is bothered by the words of their prime minister like that.
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Speaker 3: Well, you should also be worried about the 27% of
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Speaker 3: Canadians that view the U.S. as an enemy. Yeah. And only, well,
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Speaker 3: the same percentage based on our ledger poll earlier last year,
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Speaker 3: where 25% of Canadians see the U.S. as an ally.
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Speaker 3: So it's a balance happening here where Canadians really are
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Speaker 3: on the fence about what is our alignment with America. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: For myself, eventually my hope would be a Canadian constitutional republic,
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Speaker 3: because I understand constitutional republics are the only way that
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Speaker 3: men and women can live freely without government interference and overriding.
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Speaker 3: So I think it's wise for America to be viewing
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Speaker 3: Canada as... Where are we aligned and are we aligned?
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Speaker 3: And if we are not aligned, then instead of a
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Speaker 3: four-foot ticket fence, we may need to put a different
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Speaker 3: kind of fence up.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 3: And that would be correct thinking on the part of America.
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Speaker 2: And that's sad to me. And I know that you're
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Speaker 2: older like I am, and we have not lived that
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Speaker 2: life where we have to look at one another in
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Speaker 2: the way that we suddenly have to look at each other.
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Speaker 2: And to me, there's a sadness to that as being
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Speaker 2: such close neighbors where we could go borrow an egg
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Speaker 2: or a cup of sugar from each other.
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Speaker 3: I agree with that. And Canadians still overwhelmingly want good
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Speaker 3: relations with the U.S. I would have to say a
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Speaker 3: very strong majority, over half, say that Canada should take
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Speaker 3: a more independent approach especially in trade and foreign policy.
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Speaker 3: They want to defend our Canadian interests, but not provoke
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Speaker 3: a full U.S. economic war. I think the debate really, Booker,
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Speaker 3: is about understanding degrees of alignment. Should Canada automatically follow
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Speaker 3: the U.S. on every foreign policy issue, or should it
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Speaker 3: have more room to maneuver in alignments that would be
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Speaker 3: beneficial to Canada? Maybe not so beneficial to the U.S.,
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Speaker 3: but maybe beneficial to Canada. Most Canadians do support a
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Speaker 3: more independent foreign policy, but not a full break, because that,
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Speaker 3: of course, would collapse Canada's economy. That would make us
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Speaker 3: staring 100% terrorists in the eyes, and that would be
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Speaker 3: a complete, full economic freeze meltdown of the Canadian economy.
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Speaker 3: I would say within weeks.
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Speaker 2: We're coming up close to a break here. I hope
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Speaker 2: it doesn't come to that either. We are coming up
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Speaker 2: close to a break, but Before we get there, I
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Speaker 2: want to go back to Pastor Pulaski. And by the way,
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Speaker 2: for those of you listening, Joe Rampart here, who you
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Speaker 2: are listening to from Alberta, Canada, he was really involved
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Speaker 2: with the truckers. That's when my path crossed with his
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Speaker 2: back in 2022. He was doing phenomenal work in bringing
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Speaker 2: the people of Canada a broadcast and pretty much went
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Speaker 2: all day long, most days keeping people informed with what
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Speaker 2: was going on. with the truckers back then. But there
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Speaker 2: was also Pastor Polosky, and I have played this on
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Speaker 2: the show before, but I really want to pay attention
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Speaker 2: to what he says toward the end here, Joe, about
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Speaker 2: the judges in China that are also bought and paid
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Speaker 2: for by the Chinese and the CCP. Here is Pastor Polosky.
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Speaker 2: He was on with Laura Ingraham.
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Speaker 3: Do I cannot go against my own conscience, against the
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Speaker 3: freedom of religion, freedom of everything?
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Speaker 2: I mean, in a free and democratic society, I just
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Speaker 2: can't imagine.
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Speaker 3: I'm speechless. I don't know what's going on with the
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Speaker 3: Canadian government. But this judge is not a judge.
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Speaker 1: He never was a judge.
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Speaker 3: He's a political activist working for China right now.
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Speaker 2: So an activist judge working for China in Canada. And again,
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Speaker 2: this is Pastor Pulaski going back again to 2022. Your
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Speaker 2: thoughts on hearing him say that?
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Speaker 3: Well, the first thing is I agree with him. There
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Speaker 3: are many, many of our judiciary that are supported by
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Speaker 3: foreign interests, whether it be direct support or indirect support
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Speaker 3: through the Liberal Party, which has direct support with the
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Speaker 3: Communist Party of China, which, you know, for me, sometimes
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Speaker 3: we have to jokingly call Canada China because it is
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Speaker 3: so infiltrated by China. So what Archie Pulaski went through
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Speaker 3: was an absolute, absolute abhorrent event with being jailed, being persecuted. But,
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Speaker 3: you know, such is the life of the Christian during
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Speaker 3: these times. Now, he has done nothing but be of
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Speaker 3: service to his fellow man in every regard. feeding the
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Speaker 3: homeless for free, even when it was deemed to be illegal.
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Speaker 3: He and his congregation and his support groups would show
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Speaker 3: up with trays of hot, steaming food to feed homeless people.
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Speaker 3: Incredible man. Absolute respect for him.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. I'm enjoying this conversation. Joe Rampart from Alberta, Canada.
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Speaker 2: We are talking this Canada-America mess through, and maybe a
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Speaker 2: mess is too far to say, but I don't know.
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Speaker 2: It should be on your radar. It's definitely on mine.
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Speaker 2: I want to go back to the trade issue. When
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Speaker 2: the trade deal was done with China and the Carney
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Speaker 2: conversation was done with the delegation from China, the one
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Speaker 2: that I played earlier, Donald Trump said, well, I'm glad
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Speaker 2: they made a deal. He's got to make a deal.
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Speaker 2: That was the first thing that he said. I don't
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Speaker 2: know if he knew exactly what was said when he
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Speaker 2: was asked that on a tarmac, but that's what he said.
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Speaker 2: And at the time, I said, this isn't over yet.
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Speaker 2: Just wait a little bit longer. And then we saw
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Speaker 2: in Davos that Trump did not invite Mark Carney on
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Speaker 2: the Board of Peace. He withdrew that invitation. And then
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Speaker 2: this past weekend, a week up Saturday morning, and Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump is considering a As you mentioned in the first segment,
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Speaker 2: a 100% tariff on Canada. So clearly Donald Trump is
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Speaker 2: thinking the way that I am. And almost all of
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's strategy from the Middle East to Russia, to Venezuela,
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Speaker 2: to Greenland, all of that has to do with putting
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Speaker 2: a wedge between China and their ultimate goal of devaluing
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Speaker 2: the American dollar with the BRICS nations and this new
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Speaker 2: world order. And Donald Trump is trying to prevent that
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Speaker 2: from happening. Now he sees our neighbor to the north
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Speaker 2: is saying we're going to join the New World Order
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Speaker 2: with China. This 100% tariff, it could be devastating because
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Speaker 2: Canada does about 75% of their GDP with America. Then
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Speaker 2: they would really be forced to have more of a
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Speaker 2: relationship with China, I believe. Would you see it that way?
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Speaker 3: 100% I do. I asked the question, truly, what does
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Speaker 3: Trump's 100% tariff threat really mean to us as Canadians?
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Speaker 3: I asked myself that in preparation for this. And when
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Speaker 3: he threatened to impose 100% tariffs on all Canadian goods
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Speaker 3: entering the U.S., if Canada makes a deal with China
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Speaker 3: was the threat. The reason he did that was that
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Speaker 3: he views Canada turning into what would be known as
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Speaker 3: a drop-off port for Canadian goods to slide into the
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Speaker 3: American market. Now, since about, as you said, 75% of
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Speaker 3: Canadian exports go to the U.S., 100% tariffs on all
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Speaker 3: Canadian goods would be catastrophic for us, effectively cutting us
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Speaker 3: off at the jugular. A lot of economists and Canadians
25:07
Speaker 3: say that costs would be borne on both sides. The U.S.
25:11
Speaker 3: industries are relying on Canadian inputs of auto, steel, agriculture, energy,
25:16
Speaker 3: would face much higher prices, and U.S. consumers would see
25:19
Speaker 3: strong inflation. Now, I see it a little bit not
25:23
Speaker 3: in that light because the threat is widely seen as
25:26
Speaker 3: an extreme leveraging for the upcoming USMCA review rather than
25:30
Speaker 3: a serious immediate policy that Trump would want to throw in.
25:35
Speaker 3: Many US economists have even said that this would be
25:38
Speaker 3: economic madness that would hurt the US almost as much
25:40
Speaker 3: as it would Canada. But still, we all know that
25:44
Speaker 3: as a threat, it has real political and economic weight,
25:47
Speaker 3: especially when we're talking about resource-rich regions. And I speak
25:52
Speaker 3: about that specifically about Alberta being the energy hub of Canada.
25:58
Speaker 3: That's my big concern there.
26:00
Speaker 2: What about the oil? If you look back at Trudeau
26:04
Speaker 2: and what he did to the oil industry, specifically Alberta,
26:08
Speaker 2: I know I watch a lot of videos that come
26:10
Speaker 2: from Alberta, the people there. have not been happy, especially
26:13
Speaker 2: during the Trudeau years. They kind of shut down oil production.
26:17
Speaker 2: The Keystone Pipeline disappeared. Nobody really has jumped in to
26:21
Speaker 2: do anything about that since they shut it down. Is
26:25
Speaker 2: that a fair assessment of Alberta and the oil industry
26:28
Speaker 2: there in Canada?
26:29
Speaker 3: The oil industry is absolutely up in arms with what
26:34
Speaker 3: Ottawa has been doing with our energy industry. Rank-and-file Albertans
26:40
Speaker 3: are completely done with our federal government. The independence movement,
26:46
Speaker 3: the separatist movement here in Alberta is like wildfire on
26:51
Speaker 3: a hot July afternoon. Minus 25 degrees centigrade, that'd be
26:57
Speaker 3: well below minus 40 Fahrenheit. We have lineups hours long
27:02
Speaker 3: to get into polling stations or signing stations to sign
27:05
Speaker 3: the petitions. So Albertans have just basically, you know, thrown
27:10
Speaker 3: the gauntlet down and said enough. And now with the
27:14
Speaker 3: recent maneuvers in South America and the discussion about why
27:18
Speaker 3: that was done, wanting to restrict or eliminate China's access
27:22
Speaker 3: to Venezuelan oil, then all of a sudden now is
27:25
Speaker 3: this trade deal, energy deal happening between Canada and China.
27:29
Speaker 3: Is there a view that Canada would become... China's new Venezuela?
27:35
Speaker 3: That's an interesting question. And I think a lot of
27:38
Speaker 3: you listeners might think that you as well, Booker. That's
27:40
Speaker 3: probably a question going through your mind.
27:43
Speaker 2: Well, it's something I've written about. It's something I've thought
27:46
Speaker 2: about for weeks. And as you look at things, China
27:50
Speaker 2: gets 78% of Venezuelan oil right now. Donald Trump now
27:54
Speaker 2: controls that. America controls that. So where are they going
27:57
Speaker 2: to get to replace it? So when I see Carney,
28:00
Speaker 2: I already know these facts about Venezuela and the oil
28:02
Speaker 2: in China. The first thing that comes to my mind
28:05
Speaker 2: is the oil in Canada eventually will end up in China,
28:09
Speaker 2: and Canada becomes another Venezuela. And again, a neighbor of America's.
28:14
Speaker 3: Well, that's a good concern. But one has to look
28:17
Speaker 3: at the facts, Booker. You know, China being the world's
28:19
Speaker 3: largest oil importer, what does Canada provide in the way
28:23
Speaker 3: of oil supplies to China? We supply maybe about 1%.
28:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I read 4%. Yeah, I read about 4%, so whatever. Yeah,
28:33
Speaker 2: it's low.
28:34
Speaker 3: Is there any way on Earth that we would be
28:36
Speaker 3: able to scale up even past double digits, given the
28:39
Speaker 3: current environment in the energy industry?
28:43
Speaker 2: No. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I think so. But what
28:46
Speaker 2: about five years from now? Because China is always planning
28:50
Speaker 2: 50 years and 100 years out. They don't do things
28:54
Speaker 2: in two-year election cycles. Their Belt and Road Initiative started
28:57
Speaker 2: in 2012. So this is just another part of their
29:02
Speaker 2: Belt and Road Initiative that is long-term thinking. So if
29:06
Speaker 2: they have to replace that oil that they're getting from
29:08
Speaker 2: Venezuela and you have dormant oil production in Alberta, then
29:13
Speaker 2: as an American sitting here looking at things geopolitically, I say, hmm,
29:18
Speaker 2: that makes sense that Canada would partner with them for
29:23
Speaker 2: long-term oil productions. It just made sense to me, and
29:27
Speaker 2: that's what really bothered me, understanding everything that's going on
29:30
Speaker 2: from Greenland to Venezuela, rare earth minerals and the modern-day
29:34
Speaker 2: 21st century technology arms race that we're in, where the
29:38
Speaker 2: global economy will be 15%. to 22.3 trillion dollars by 2030.
29:43
Speaker 2: And we're in this race with China and then Canada
29:47
Speaker 2: partners with them. Does Canada even realize that, that they
29:50
Speaker 2: that's what Greenland is all about? It's not just about
29:53
Speaker 2: military strategy. But it's about that race of 21st century
29:57
Speaker 2: technology because the largest rare earth mineral deposit in the
30:00
Speaker 2: world is in Greenland. And the only country that's capable
30:03
Speaker 2: of getting those rare earth minerals out at this time
30:06
Speaker 2: is China. So that's another block of China. So everywhere
30:10
Speaker 2: that China is trying to come in, Donald Trump is
30:12
Speaker 2: trying to block for national security. Because if you go
30:16
Speaker 2: back to the National Security Strategy Report that was released
30:19
Speaker 2: in November by the Trump administration, It did not mention
30:22
Speaker 2: China or Russia, which is probably America's largest adversaries. It
30:27
Speaker 2: only mentioned the Western Hemisphere. But everything that Donald Trump
30:31
Speaker 2: has done in this Western Hemisphere so far has been
30:35
Speaker 2: to block China. So when he says 100% tariff on Canada, see,
30:41
Speaker 2: I look at it maybe a little bit different than
30:43
Speaker 2: the way you're looking at it.
30:45
Speaker 3: I would have to agree, because I'm a Canadian, you're
30:47
Speaker 3: an American, you're going to say, see things from the
30:50
Speaker 3: American lens, and I see it from the Canadian lens,
30:53
Speaker 3: and let me just kind of scrape the ice off
30:55
Speaker 3: the front of the lens here so you can see
30:57
Speaker 3: it clearly.
30:57
Speaker 2: There's probably a lot of ice up here.
31:01
Speaker 3: There is. There's a lot of sentiment in Canada and
31:06
Speaker 3: within the energy industry that we want to sell more oil,
31:10
Speaker 3: whether that be to China or to Europe or to America.
31:15
Speaker 3: We just want to sell the oil. We're sitting on
31:17
Speaker 3: a lot of oil, my friend. We want to sell
31:20
Speaker 3: the oil. It's a resource that we can actually sell.
31:24
Speaker 3: And the way we extract our oil, the way we
31:27
Speaker 3: take care of our land, we are the cleanest producers
31:30
Speaker 3: of oil on the planet. So if China wants to
31:33
Speaker 3: buy our oil, we will sell the oil to China.
31:36
Speaker 3: The real issue is how do we get our oil
31:38
Speaker 3: to tidewater? And considering that's the biggest hurdle, the impasse,
31:44
Speaker 3: that we face, the threat is gossamer in appearance, really,
31:49
Speaker 3: to America. We can't get our oil to China.
31:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about that. Explain that to the listeners so
31:57
Speaker 2: that they understand. Because there is an issue with ports.
32:01
Speaker 2: If you look at a map and where Alberta is,
32:03
Speaker 2: it's not real close to a port, is it? Explain
32:06
Speaker 2: what you're talking about.
32:07
Speaker 3: Well, we are on the eastern side of the Great
32:09
Speaker 3: Canadian Rockies. To try and get a pipeline across the Rockies,
32:14
Speaker 3: across the western section of Canada, is a monumental feat.
32:19
Speaker 3: One that Canadians are capable of doing. But when we're
32:23
Speaker 3: looking at multi-year delays due to regulatory issues, when we're
32:27
Speaker 3: running into the United Nations Declaration on Indian Participation, the UNGRIP,
32:37
Speaker 3: And we have many First Nations in British Columbia that
32:41
Speaker 3: have been challenging on every level of court the ability
32:47
Speaker 3: to get oil to tidewater. It's a huge regulatory hurdle
32:54
Speaker 3: where America could build a pipeline in two years. It
32:57
Speaker 3: would take 20 years for Canada to do it. Do
33:00
Speaker 3: I see that mentality changing? No, I actually see it amplifying. Specifically,
33:06
Speaker 3: now we've got some serious issues about land authority and
33:11
Speaker 3: land autonomy in the lower mainland areas. Specifically, there are
33:17
Speaker 3: a few First Nations tribes that are causing a lot
33:22
Speaker 3: of grief over the definition of ceded and unceded territory
33:28
Speaker 3: and the right to that territory. So it's to the
33:31
Speaker 3: point now where there are some communities that You know,
33:34
Speaker 3: if you're a homeowner, you spent half a million dollars
33:37
Speaker 3: on your home. Now there's this internal First Nation saying, no,
33:42
Speaker 3: all that land belongs to us, not you. So there's
33:46
Speaker 3: a real issue over land here in Canada. And of course,
33:49
Speaker 3: being as big as we are, some of those nations
33:53
Speaker 3: encompass an awful lot of territory, and that's wildland territory
33:57
Speaker 3: that we could easily traverse through the pipeline. But due
34:00
Speaker 3: to regulatory hurdles, they're It's an impasse. That's been one
34:06
Speaker 3: of the biggest things. And I've always been a proponent
34:09
Speaker 3: that where we need to ship our oil is to America.
34:13
Speaker 3: We need to get our oil down to you as
34:15
Speaker 3: fast as possible because you need oil.
34:19
Speaker 2: And that's been stopped.
34:20
Speaker 3: We can provide that.
34:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's been stopped over the last couple of years.
34:24
Speaker 2: Biden stopped the Keystone Pipeline. And from what I understand
34:27
Speaker 2: from people in the energy industry, no company really wants
34:31
Speaker 2: to come back and take that on. So it's just
34:34
Speaker 2: sitting there, the part that they built, and it doesn't
34:36
Speaker 2: look like anybody is. However, I did see something from
34:39
Speaker 2: Alberta last week that one Canadian company is entertaining that.
34:44
Speaker 2: So maybe it does come back into something that they're
34:49
Speaker 2: going to try to accomplish and open that Keystone pipeline eventually.
34:52
Speaker 2: But Joe Biden killed that back then, and it doesn't
34:55
Speaker 2: seem like there is a lot of support for it
34:57
Speaker 2: at this time. Before we end our time together, I
35:00
Speaker 2: want to talk a little bit about Alberta. It's where
35:02
Speaker 2: you are. And you see, and you even mentioned it,
35:05
Speaker 2: by the way, that the people are lining up to
35:07
Speaker 2: sign a petition. I have seen that myself. And Donald
35:11
Speaker 2: Trump talked about making Alberta a 51st state. There was
35:14
Speaker 2: even a contingency from Alberta that went to the White
35:17
Speaker 2: House early on in Donald Trump's second presidency. Are the
35:20
Speaker 2: people there going to have any success either becoming their
35:24
Speaker 2: own nation or becoming a part of the United States?
35:27
Speaker 2: Someone suggested today we'll swap Minnesota for Alberta. What about that?
35:31
Speaker 2: You think the people of Canada would go along with that?
35:34
Speaker 3: I highly doubt that that view would be signed off
35:37
Speaker 3: by Canada. You can keep Minnesota. You folks, it's in
35:42
Speaker 3: your backyard. Please clean up your backyard, says your friendly neighbor.
35:46
Speaker 3: At the same time, looking in my backyard here in Alberta,
35:51
Speaker 3: you brought up two particular issues. First is the movement
35:53
Speaker 3: towards a.
35:53
Speaker 2: 51st state policy.
35:55
Speaker 3: And then the independent separatist movement. In order to achieve
36:00
Speaker 3: the 51st state status, one would have to become an
36:06
Speaker 3: independent nation prior to that. There's no way that Alberta
36:10
Speaker 3: could just negotiate its way out of Canada into a
36:13
Speaker 3: 51st state. And there's no legal precedent in the framework
36:18
Speaker 3: of the U.S. to allow that to happen. There is
36:21
Speaker 3: a framework where an independent country could join the United States.
36:28
Speaker 3: How that would happen, well, that's within the U.S. framework
36:32
Speaker 3: for how that works. Am I a proponent of Alberta
36:36
Speaker 3: becoming part of America? No, I'm not. I'm an Albertan.
36:41
Speaker 3: I'm a Canadian. I'm Canadian first. Bringing up the separate
36:46
Speaker 3: topic of Alberta separatism and those moving for Alberta independence,
36:52
Speaker 3: I understand the sentiment, having lived in this, being a
36:54
Speaker 3: born and bred Albertan, living in this beautiful, beautiful, beautiful
37:00
Speaker 3: place called Alberta for 60 years. This is Canada. Do
37:08
Speaker 3: I see the movement gaining traction? Absolutely. Do they have
37:12
Speaker 3: a valid question? Absolutely. Do we have a framework for
37:17
Speaker 3: separatism within our constitution? Yes, we do. It's long. It's arduous.
37:24
Speaker 3: I think the sentiment is misplaced that it's going to
37:26
Speaker 3: be a rapid event. I do not see it as such.
37:29
Speaker 3: I see it near taking a generation for this to
37:32
Speaker 3: actually work its way through all of the steps it
37:35
Speaker 3: needs to go through in order to be attained. It's
37:39
Speaker 3: going to be an ongoing thing. And like I say,
37:41
Speaker 3: it's going to be a generational thing. We're looking at
37:43
Speaker 3: this discussion, probably going to encompass not only the discussion,
37:47
Speaker 3: but the process and procedures. If the question is asked
37:52
Speaker 3: through the Clarity Act and then goes to a referendum,
37:56
Speaker 3: the next step is then the Canada-wide vote, then the
37:59
Speaker 3: next step and the next step. And these steps... Take
38:03
Speaker 3: a lot of time. And one of the things that
38:06
Speaker 3: we're running into is a huge shift in the Canadian
38:10
Speaker 3: electoral desires where the election in four years time is
38:16
Speaker 3: going to probably flip from our liberal government to a
38:20
Speaker 3: conservative based government. Now, of course, up here in Canada,
38:25
Speaker 3: we have what we call the uniparty, where it doesn't
38:27
Speaker 3: matter whether you're blue or red, you're still going to
38:30
Speaker 3: maintain the status quo. Unfortunately, our system of government under
38:35
Speaker 3: Westminster parliamentary rules of order actually facilitate that and rewards that.
38:42
Speaker 3: It's about good governance. It's not about doing the right
38:45
Speaker 3: thing for the right reason at the right time. It's
38:48
Speaker 3: about good governance, controlling the population. And that's what the
38:53
Speaker 3: Canadian government is very, very good at doing when they
38:57
Speaker 3: need to do it, whether it be by narrative or
39:00
Speaker 3: whether it be by force. We've seen that exercise as
39:04
Speaker 3: recently as February 22 with the enactment of what we
39:08
Speaker 3: call our Emergency Measures Act, what would be commonly referred
39:11
Speaker 3: to as the War Measures Act. Well, unrest in Ottawa
39:16
Speaker 3: at the time. Now, of course, we see events happening
39:19
Speaker 3: in Canada now where we have demonstrations and protestations happening
39:22
Speaker 3: in our major metropolitan cities that are completely meltdowns. They're true.
39:30
Speaker 3: turning violent as opposed to what we saw when they
39:34
Speaker 3: did enact the Emergency Measures Act. Peaceful demonstrators honking horns, playing, barbecuing,
39:41
Speaker 3: bouncy castles. That's what the trucker convoy was in 22
39:45
Speaker 3: that had the Emergency Measures Act unleashed on it. where
39:49
Speaker 3: they unleashed horses to trample Canadians in the street. This
39:54
Speaker 3: is true. There's videos all over the internet if you
39:56
Speaker 3: want to see it. But do we see the same
39:58
Speaker 3: response to the current demonstrations or protestations that are happening
40:02
Speaker 3: here in Canadian cities? No, we don't. We literally see
40:06
Speaker 3: complete violations of the criminal code by certain select groups
40:10
Speaker 3: in Canada that would not have been tolerated if they
40:14
Speaker 3: had occurred in 22 at the trucker convoy. But then again,
40:19
Speaker 3: now we're talking into a much wider socio-political environment when
40:25
Speaker 3: we talk about the overpopulation of Canada with our mass
40:28
Speaker 3: immigration resulting in a collapse of our infrastructure in order
40:32
Speaker 3: to sustain it.
40:33
Speaker 2: Joe, do you have a few more minutes to hang
40:36
Speaker 2: around with me for about 15 more minutes? And we'll
40:39
Speaker 2: go ahead and finish out this hour. I kind of
40:41
Speaker 2: planned on doing a couple of segments. I'm enjoying the conversation.
40:44
Speaker 2: I have a couple of more questions. We'll keep it
40:46
Speaker 2: going here in just a minute. Tonight at 9 o'clock,
43:11
Speaker 2: it is After Dark with Robin Andrew. Before that, the
43:14
Speaker 2: National Security Hour. And coming up here in just a
43:17
Speaker 2: few minutes, it is Unleash the Political News Hour. I'm
43:20
Speaker 2: Booker Scott. This is The Truth Be Told. Glad you're here.
43:24
Speaker 2: And I'm also glad my friend from Canada, Joe Rampart,
43:27
Speaker 2: is here. He's trying to set me straight and tell
43:30
Speaker 2: me things aren't as bad as I thought they were.
43:32
Speaker 2: I'm not totally convinced yet, but I am enjoying a
43:35
Speaker 2: conversation with our neighbor. And I think Joe is a
43:37
Speaker 2: guy that I would let him borrow an egg or
43:40
Speaker 2: a cup of sugar anytime he wanted. I want to
43:42
Speaker 2: come back to something that you said a few minutes
43:45
Speaker 2: ago about Alberta and trying to get their independence, whether
43:50
Speaker 2: that be, you know, first it would have to be
43:52
Speaker 2: a nation, an independent nation. It sounds like a very
43:55
Speaker 2: long process. From a personal standpoint, from someone that's lived
43:59
Speaker 2: there their entire life, do you want to see Alberta
44:04
Speaker 2: as an independent nation? Or do you still want them
44:07
Speaker 2: to be a part of the Canada that you love?
44:09
Speaker 2: Because you can hear it in your voice. You want
44:12
Speaker 2: Canada to be the Canada that you grew up with
44:14
Speaker 2: and the Canada that you love. And I think that
44:18
Speaker 2: for me at 60 and you at 60, we both
44:21
Speaker 2: have that in common. We both want our America and
44:24
Speaker 2: our Canada together. to be the ones that we grew
44:27
Speaker 2: up with where we could go and get a cup
44:29
Speaker 2: of sugar or an egg from our neighbor.
44:31
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you open the show up here, Booker,
44:33
Speaker 3: with the comment about neighbors. And once you want your
44:37
Speaker 3: neighbor to stand strong, to be independent, to make decisions
44:42
Speaker 3: that are good for them, and yet at the same
44:44
Speaker 3: time not marginalize or endanger the relationship with you, that's
44:49
Speaker 3: what I believe Canada has had, Canada can have, and
44:52
Speaker 3: Canada should have. Do I believe that Alberta should separate
44:59
Speaker 3: from Canada? No, I don't. I'm a Canadian. I believe
45:03
Speaker 3: in the whole breadth of Canada, from sea to sea
45:06
Speaker 3: to sea to border. This is a beautiful nation. It's
45:10
Speaker 3: a beautiful people. It's something that doesn't exist anywhere else
45:15
Speaker 3: on the planet. Canada is unique when it comes to nations.
45:21
Speaker 3: It's extremely unique. I've looked at this, you know, with
45:24
Speaker 3: my broadcast Canada Talks tonight, I've talked to hundreds of
45:27
Speaker 3: thousands of Canadians over the years. And the one overriding
45:32
Speaker 3: thing is they're all Canadians. And even when I speak
45:36
Speaker 3: with Alberta separatists, and I know some of them very closely,
45:40
Speaker 3: one of my previous co-hosts was a full Canadian nationalist.
45:46
Speaker 3: But something happened in March of last year when Mark
45:51
Speaker 3: Carney was elected as the Prime Minister of Canada, that
45:54
Speaker 3: snapped a lot of the burdens. They just had it.
45:58
Speaker 3: There's no way that Canada would line up to the
46:00
Speaker 3: slop-slop of liberalism like they had under Trudeau. We'd had
46:05
Speaker 3: 10 years of Trudeau, and now we're getting another election.
46:08
Speaker 3: We're getting another five years of the Liberal Party. Trudeau
46:12
Speaker 3: was a liberal, leader of the Liberal Party. His number
46:15
Speaker 3: one advisor was Mark Carney from 2019 onwards. So we
46:20
Speaker 3: can see that the stage was set for a continuization
46:24
Speaker 3: of the direction that Canada is going in. I believe
46:28
Speaker 3: that with the full support of America, we could maintain
46:34
Speaker 3: a full country. We need to have much better trade relations.
46:38
Speaker 3: But when we have a globalist in power that's more
46:42
Speaker 3: interested in expanding the global presence as opposed to regional security,
46:48
Speaker 3: That's where I draw the line and I say, well,
46:51
Speaker 3: what we might land up with is the balkanization of Canada.
46:56
Speaker 3: What we might land up with is independent provinces, independent countries.
47:02
Speaker 3: We may have the country of Alberta, the country of Saskatchewan,
47:06
Speaker 3: the country of Manitoba, the country of Quebec, because Quebec
47:11
Speaker 3: has a huge separatist initiative underway and has for the
47:15
Speaker 3: last 40 years. The last time there was a major
47:19
Speaker 3: separatist movement in Canada, the Quebec vote came to 49.8%, 51.
47:25
Speaker 3: It was very close. Very close. Do I see it
47:30
Speaker 3: coming that close with the Alberta separatist initiatives? Yes, I do. Wow.
47:36
Speaker 3: I even see potentially it moving to the point where
47:39
Speaker 3: the Act, the Clarity Act is called into play on
47:41
Speaker 3: the question. And then it goes through the multiple levels
47:45
Speaker 3: of court challenges that it's going to go through and
47:48
Speaker 3: then go back to Parliament in order to figure this out.
47:53
Speaker 3: Now we're dealing, this is potentially four or five years
47:56
Speaker 3: from now, that puts us into a new election cycle,
47:59
Speaker 3: that potentially puts us into a new government that might
48:02
Speaker 3: be able to change the situation between the U.S. and
48:07
Speaker 3: Canada that would make it route to pursue the aspect
48:10
Speaker 3: of independence. But there's a lot more than just energy
48:14
Speaker 3: issues at play when it comes to the independent question.
48:18
Speaker 3: Many people don't understand that Canada, being as big as
48:21
Speaker 3: it is, we transfer payments between provinces to balance things out.
48:26
Speaker 3: And Alberta has way overpaid in transfer payments, somewhat to
48:31
Speaker 3: the tune of over $ 300 billion in the last 50 years.
48:35
Speaker 3: And we get nothing back. We get nothing back at all,
48:40
Speaker 3: except impasses, roadblocks, barriers to... our energy industry.
48:48
Speaker 2: So you feel slighted if you're an Albertan. You feel
48:52
Speaker 2: slighted by your government completely. Not only is it a
48:55
Speaker 2: liberal government, but even when the conservative government has been
48:57
Speaker 2: in there, you are still slighted when you have spent
49:00
Speaker 2: $ 300 billion and you get nothing for it.
49:03
Speaker 3: Absolutely. 100%. For myself, I'm tired of playing party politics
49:08
Speaker 3: within the Canadian mosaic. I'm looking at it more so
49:12
Speaker 3: from if we don't take a principled stand and if
49:15
Speaker 3: we don't have principled policies in place, then what do
49:22
Speaker 3: we have? We have a morass where mediocrity is rewarded, where...
49:30
Speaker 3: adversaries and aggression between institutions is supported. This is where
49:36
Speaker 3: you've got Ottawa and Edmonton, the capital of Alberta, in
49:41
Speaker 3: loggerheads over, we need to move our oil, but we
49:44
Speaker 3: can't move our oil. Does anybody truly like $ 60, $ 70
49:47
Speaker 3: a barrel oil? No. It's still profitable, but nowhere near
49:52
Speaker 3: as profitable as $ 150 a barrel. But at the same time,
49:56
Speaker 3: if we were able to free-flow oil out of the
49:59
Speaker 3: $ 50 a barrel is profitable.
50:04
Speaker 2: And we're close to that again. Yeah, we're close to
50:07
Speaker 2: $ 50 again. You said something a few minutes ago. I
50:10
Speaker 2: want to go back because I think there are some
50:11
Speaker 2: parallels here. You said that I am a Canadian. And
50:16
Speaker 2: I feel the same way. I am an American first.
50:18
Speaker 2: And I don't mean that in the Donald Trump way.
50:20
Speaker 2: I'm just an American. And we used to all say that.
50:23
Speaker 2: We're an American.
50:23
Speaker 3: I'm an American.
50:25
Speaker 2: And now you hear people on our political left They
50:28
Speaker 2: say they're Americans, and people on the political right say
50:31
Speaker 2: there's no way you can be an American the way
50:33
Speaker 2: you believe. We both feel that we are Americans. But
50:37
Speaker 2: in reality, we are not like we used to be.
50:41
Speaker 2: Do you sense that in Canada with the political divide
50:44
Speaker 2: that you have there?
50:45
Speaker 3: Yes, 100%. Unequivocally, I agree with that. I feel absolutely
50:51
Speaker 3: slighted and insulted by my government every time I look
50:54
Speaker 3: at my pay stub. Yeah.
50:57
Speaker 2: Well, there's this thing that we're all Americans or we're
51:00
Speaker 2: all Canadians, but it's not like it was back when
51:04
Speaker 2: I would go get a cup of sugar for my
51:06
Speaker 2: mother or run and get an egg. Those days of
51:10
Speaker 2: being an American and being an American first or a
51:13
Speaker 2: Canadian first, they seem to be gone. I don't know
51:16
Speaker 2: how we get that back. Do you have any thought
51:19
Speaker 2: on that?
51:20
Speaker 3: I think it comes down to what we here in
51:24
Speaker 3: Canada are. called the Kindness Initiative. And this was fully
51:29
Speaker 3: exemplified during the trucker convoy, where we had Canadians from
51:34
Speaker 3: the Yukon with Canadians from the Maritimes, people that lived 5,400
51:41
Speaker 3: kilometers apart, joining together and sharing and dancing and having
51:48
Speaker 3: life and sharing experiences. That is the Canadian mosaic, truly.
51:54
Speaker 3: Whether it be somebody from Barhead, Alberta, small, little, tiny
52:01
Speaker 3: ranching community not far from Calgary, having a great conversation
52:06
Speaker 3: with somebody from Laval, Quebec, using Google Translate in minus
52:11
Speaker 3: 30 degree weather and still coming together. This is possible
52:16
Speaker 3: in Canada. It's been that way forever, at least my
52:20
Speaker 3: 60 years. This is implied. It's political in nature. It's
52:25
Speaker 3: ideological in nature. And when we start to look past
52:29
Speaker 3: the ideology, that's where we really see the similarities. But sometimes, again,
52:35
Speaker 3: it's about party politics and it's more about playing the
52:38
Speaker 3: ideology as opposed to playing the aspect of identity, the
52:44
Speaker 3: aspect of nationhood, of nationality. That seems to have taken
52:50
Speaker 3: a backseat to ideologies. And we have these ideologies that are,
52:55
Speaker 3: you know, a broad spectrum of them, whether it be
52:59
Speaker 3: the SOGI, the transgender issues on the left, or whether
53:04
Speaker 3: it be white nationalism on the right. Behind those ideologies,
53:11
Speaker 3: we still, you know, if you scratch that person, you're
53:13
Speaker 3: still going to see them bleed red and white. They're
53:16
Speaker 3: still Canadian. So how do we transpose that? How do
53:23
Speaker 3: we get over that? I think it's more so the
53:25
Speaker 3: adjective I'd want to use to get back to Canadianism.
53:30
Speaker 3: And that's kind of been the mission of what Canada
53:32
Speaker 3: Talks tonight with my co-host, Wolf. And I do twice
53:35
Speaker 3: a week is we keep bringing it back to the
53:37
Speaker 3: Canadian question, the Canadianism, the identity of Canada and what
53:41
Speaker 3: that means, regardless of whether you live on Vancouver or
53:44
Speaker 3: on British Columbia or on Queen Charlotte Island in the
53:49
Speaker 3: Atlantic of Canada or in Nunavut. up in the north,
53:52
Speaker 3: up in the Arctic Circle.
53:54
Speaker 2: Joe, so much of this is by design as well.
53:57
Speaker 2: The division.
53:58
Speaker 3: I agree.
53:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, they want us divided. They need us divided to
54:03
Speaker 2: accomplish what it is that they're trying to accomplish. And
54:06
Speaker 2: it's a battle of hearts and minds, not of policy, legislation. And,
54:12
Speaker 2: you know, that's where I come down with things. The
54:14
Speaker 2: battle for the heart and the mind, not for whether
54:18
Speaker 2: you're left or right, whether you're good or evil or
54:21
Speaker 2: any of those things. It is the battle for the
54:24
Speaker 2: heart and mind and doing what's right. And in my opinion,
54:27
Speaker 2: doing God's will, which is to love him with all
54:29
Speaker 2: your heart and love your neighbor just like that is
54:33
Speaker 2: what the scripture says. Just the same way you love God,
54:36
Speaker 2: you love your neighbor, and you'd be willing to give
54:38
Speaker 2: them an egg or a cup of sugar. And Joe,
54:41
Speaker 2: I would always be willing to give you either one
54:43
Speaker 2: of those and probably the shirt off my back. I
54:46
Speaker 2: want to thank you for coming on the program again tonight.
54:48
Speaker 2: It's been a while. It's been a couple of years.
54:50
Speaker 2: You're so informative, and I appreciate it. I want you
54:53
Speaker 2: to tell everybody where they can find you, both on Twitter, X,
54:58
Speaker 2: where they can listen to your broadcast, so that they
55:01
Speaker 2: maybe can come in and listen to a bunch of
55:03
Speaker 2: Canadians and how they feel about this world.
55:05
Speaker 3: Well, I certainly appreciate those words, Booker. First, let me
55:10
Speaker 3: express to all of your listeners, every American listening in,
55:15
Speaker 3: as a Canadian in the Great White North, in the
55:18
Speaker 3: spirit of Agapa, We share our love for each other
55:23
Speaker 3: as brothers, as sisters, as children of God, as we
55:26
Speaker 3: seek first His kingdom and His righteousness. And that we understand,
55:31
Speaker 3: as our Savior said, that there is no greater love
55:34
Speaker 3: than to lay your life down for your brother. And
55:36
Speaker 3: that's what Canadians have done historically with Americans. You have
55:40
Speaker 3: done that with us. And I know that in the future,
55:44
Speaker 3: as they say, when nuts to bolts happen, we will
55:46
Speaker 3: do the same. Where you can find out more information
55:50
Speaker 3: about me is on OnePlaceX. That is my sole point.
55:56
Speaker 3: I love social media, but I discovered social media was
55:59
Speaker 3: so toxic. And the best solution to toxicity is exposure.
56:04
Speaker 3: And bring it into the light of day, or if
56:07
Speaker 3: not in the light of day, at least bring it
56:09
Speaker 3: into your ear balls. And then they came along with Spaces,
56:13
Speaker 3: which is very similar to podcasts and radio shows. The
56:17
Speaker 3: difference with Spaces being that they were live, interactive, real-time, unedited.
56:22
Speaker 3: They were the Wild West, the new frontier of social
56:25
Speaker 3: media that I termed social audio. So we started just
56:29
Speaker 3: after the trucker convoy. We established the X-Spaces regularly, weekly
56:34
Speaker 3: at the time, now up to two episodes a week,
56:37
Speaker 3: Tuesdays and Friday evenings at 6 p.m. Pacific time. That'll
56:42
Speaker 3: be in approximately 21 minutes. We'll be going on air
56:46
Speaker 3: at X. You can find me at JoeRampart on X.
56:50
Speaker 3: That's J-O-E-R-A-M-P-A-R-T.com. And we'll be live in 20 minutes on
56:57
Speaker 3: Canada Talks tonight. And your audience is totally invited to
57:00
Speaker 3: join us on Tuesdays and Friday nights. We'll be there
57:03
Speaker 3: for you. We are an eclectic group. We have nationalists.
57:08
Speaker 3: We have liberals. We have conservatives. We have green folks.
57:13
Speaker 3: Even those that believe in green energy and the climate issues.
57:18
Speaker 3: This is one where it's a nonpartisan space, but it's
57:22
Speaker 3: a national space because we're Canadians. We believe in Canada
57:26
Speaker 3: from coast to coast to coast to the border. Canada
57:28
Speaker 3: first is our motto.
57:30
Speaker 2: Thank you, Joe. I appreciate you coming on the program again.
57:33
Speaker 2: I really do. God bless you. God bless Canada. Let's
57:36
Speaker 2: stay friends where we can still trade an egg or
57:39
Speaker 2: a cup of sugar if we need to. And don't
57:42
Speaker 2: you forget that you were told 2,000 years ago that
57:44
Speaker 2: you are the salt of the earth and salt without
57:47
Speaker 2: flavor has no value. So whatever you do, keep being salty.
57:51
Speaker 2: Have a great night. There is only one truth. You've
57:54
Speaker 2: been listening to The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott
57:57
Speaker 2: on America Out Loud.