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Huddle Up | 1st Team Meeting Next Week + Navigating Jaguars' Draft Position · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up Frocks you by the Field Total Group,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguar Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and former
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  Speaker 1: Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter JP Shaddick bring you
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  Speaker 1: the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now and welcome in.
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  Speaker 3: It is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks, JP Shadrick with
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  Speaker 3: John Oser. We're at the Honday Studios, the Miller Electric
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  Speaker 2: Bucky, how are you? What's up?
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  Speaker 4: No, it's so on, guys. What's happening?
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  Speaker 2: You know everything? One week until the off season program begins.
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  Speaker 3: Less than that now they'll be out there on Tuesday
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  Speaker 3: next week and then three weeks until the NFL Draft,
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  Speaker 3: which means it is prime Bucky Brooks and it has
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  Speaker 3: been for a little while, but it just continues to
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  Speaker 3: ramp upward towards the final weekend in April. Path to
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  Speaker 3: the Draft is on the air.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I mean everything is in full full go right now
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  Speaker 3: for you.
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  Speaker 4: Buck Yeah, we're going.
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  Speaker 6: We got mock draft live, we got paths in the draft,
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  Speaker 6: all things draft we're talking about. So this is fun though,
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  Speaker 6: because it's fun because once we get to this.
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  Speaker 4: Point where we're having the draft and.
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  Speaker 6: Free agency is wrapped up, now, we'll get me in
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  Speaker 6: talk about twenty twenty five and kind of have some.
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  Speaker 4: Optimism on what's gonna take place for the Jacks.
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  Speaker 5: There was a Seinfeld once where George I told people
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  Speaker 5: he was a great driver, that he was seeing things
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  Speaker 5: three or four steps ahead. That's what Bucket is this month.
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  Speaker 5: He's over his feet. He's seeing stuff coming at him
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  Speaker 5: from I mean, this is his world. You are seeing
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  Speaker 5: creativity and action.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 5: I love to watch him this time.
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  Speaker 4: It really is.
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  Speaker 3: So he's got all this mock drafts done the can already,
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  Speaker 3: like he doesn't remember it so long ago, but he
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  Speaker 3: knows it's always right.
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  Speaker 5: He's seeing things this month that normal people can't see.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this is a perfect time to do it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like why not go big, Like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: have all the.
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  Speaker 6: Mob drafts in the can, have everything ready to go,
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  Speaker 6: so we have a little fun, some conversations.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, coming out now of the time to talk ball.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk a little ball.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, coming out of the NFL Annual Meeting,
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  Speaker 3: the owners meeting is down on Palm Beach, John, you
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  Speaker 3: were down there. We got to hear from Liam Cohen
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  Speaker 3: at the AFC Coaches Breakfast the other day.
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  Speaker 2: And you know with the offseason.
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  Speaker 3: Program right around the corner that you know, Bucky HiT's
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  Speaker 3: a big it's the first impression for a lot of
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  Speaker 3: these players will have in front of the coaching staff
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  Speaker 3: and Liam Cohen. Cohen talked about the energy the players
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  Speaker 3: will feel when they get in the building.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean for me though.
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  Speaker 3: That that first impression matters, that first team meeting, the
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  Speaker 3: first day or two of contact, I really can set
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  Speaker 3: the tone for a long time to come.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, set the tone, because what you're doing is you
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  Speaker 6: want to make sure that you clearly communicate the standards
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  Speaker 6: and expectations from everyone on the team. When you think
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  Speaker 6: about the conversation, and the buzzword has been culture like
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  Speaker 6: new environment, the culture what you're trying to create. Well,
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  Speaker 6: the only way you can do that is by beginning
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  Speaker 6: to set those standards and holding guys accountable to meeting
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  Speaker 6: those standards every day. So I'm excited to one hear
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  Speaker 6: what those standards are when it relates to the players,
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  Speaker 6: and too, I'm excited to see how he builds the
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  Speaker 6: culture and how he begins to establish that commitment, accountability
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  Speaker 6: and trust that you have to have to operate at
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  Speaker 6: a championship level.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I asked him that question, you know, what will they
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  Speaker 5: expect when they walk in that building next week? And
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  Speaker 5: because it is, we've all felt it a little bit
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  Speaker 5: and talked to him. Some of the players have talked
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  Speaker 5: to the coaches, of course, but that first day, you know,
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  Speaker 5: no matter how good you've been that first day, remember
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  Speaker 5: JP when you were an all state wide receiver. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and if they had changed coaches, though, no matter how
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  Speaker 5: good you were, you're walking in the next year going
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  Speaker 5: you know, I was pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Boy.
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  Speaker 5: These guys don't like you know, you never know. So
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  Speaker 5: Liam talked a lot about he wants them to feel
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  Speaker 5: the energy, the excitement. Hey, we get to do this
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  Speaker 5: every day. Not a lot of people do have that
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  Speaker 5: love for football, but Bucky, I also expect that when
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  Speaker 5: the players walk in, there will be an undertone of hey,
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  Speaker 5: this is a different deal. This is going to be
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  Speaker 5: a more disciplined deal. We're going to do things right,
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  Speaker 5: We're gonna do things differently an undertone of that, So
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  Speaker 5: I expected to be a mix of that on Tuesday
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  Speaker 5: or Wednesday or whenever they had that first meeting.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that day I'll try and lay
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  Speaker 6: down the law. I kind of set some parameters on
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  Speaker 6: what players.
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  Speaker 4: Are expected to do, how they expected to act, and
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  Speaker 4: those things.
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  Speaker 6: Everyone will say like, hey, this is gonna be a
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  Speaker 6: little more discipline and detail than the previous thing. And
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  Speaker 6: you have to be careful with that because you don't
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  Speaker 6: want to poopoo everything that was established before, because some
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  Speaker 6: of the players like the regime that was that preceded
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  Speaker 6: their arrival. But you also have to let them know
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  Speaker 6: that like all those things that were established before mean nothing.
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  Speaker 4: It's a new day.
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  Speaker 6: You have to earn the right to be on the field.
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  Speaker 6: And so it's a bit of an open competition, not
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  Speaker 6: for the elites, but for a lot of the guys like, look,
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  Speaker 6: it's it's an opportunity to uh improve and enhance your
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  Speaker 6: standing on the team. But for others this, hey man,
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  Speaker 6: I got to play for my lives because these.
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  Speaker 4: Dudes don't have invested interest me in that that regard.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say there's six seven people who feel pretty good,
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  Speaker 5: and I'd say there's a lot. I mean a Trayvon
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  Speaker 5: and Josh Allen are going to start, you know, and
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  Speaker 5: Brian Thomas j I mean Josh Hinzel I'm sorry, Uh,
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  Speaker 5: Brian Thomas Junior is going to start, Trevor's gonna start,
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  Speaker 5: and Brent Strange is going to start.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's about it.
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  Speaker 5: A bunch of guys are going to start, but a
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  Speaker 5: lot of guys walking back in here.
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  Speaker 3: It's a new era certainly is certainly is new era
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  Speaker 3: for Liam Cohen as well. I mean he was hired
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  Speaker 3: what late January the twenty fourth, I guess officially it's
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  Speaker 3: now even second nine weeks, Yeah, a little over two
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  Speaker 3: months now. So was there anything out of him this
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  Speaker 3: week about just the environment he's in now and the
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  Speaker 3: changes We hear about this a lot where first time
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  Speaker 3: head coaches are having a deal with all these things
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  Speaker 3: they haven't had to yet, and the players aren't even
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  Speaker 3: in the building yet, John, But I'm sure the environment's
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  Speaker 3: got to be a little bit different for Liam.
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  Speaker 5: He went into his schedule a little bit, and I
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  Speaker 5: think that is an adjustment for a head coach coming
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  Speaker 5: off a coordinator position, is you know, you get in
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  Speaker 5: the building. He talked about getting in the building around six,
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  Speaker 5: which I didn't understand what he was talking about. Are
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  Speaker 5: we open at six? Apparently so, but he says he's
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  Speaker 5: in at six, trust him and at that point getting
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  Speaker 5: the schedule for the day, running through it. And he
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  Speaker 5: did mention a couple of times not getting to do
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  Speaker 5: as much ball as he likes, which means this head
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  Speaker 5: coaching job is more administrative and it's more leadership than
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  Speaker 5: what most head coaches are used to. I think that's
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  Speaker 5: the adjustment for any head coach. Bucky, it's the one
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  Speaker 5: job in the NFL I think you haven't had as
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  Speaker 5: head coach, but you certainly hear that that's a transition,
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  Speaker 5: and that's a big deal for a head coach when
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  Speaker 5: they're starting.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 6: Look, it's a huge deal, and it's one of the
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  Speaker 6: reasons why when we talk about head coaching candidates and
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  Speaker 6: we always look at the guys who are the great
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  Speaker 6: play callers, why it may not translate because there are
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  Speaker 6: so many different things that.
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  Speaker 4: Come across your desk.
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  Speaker 6: We need a head coach to have nothing to do
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  Speaker 6: with like ball and drawing up plays in those things.
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  Speaker 4: It's a leadership position. It requires a lot of organization,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of structure.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of attention to detail, and the management of people,
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  Speaker 6: which is even different than managing the team because now
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  Speaker 6: as the head coach is not only the players, it's
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  Speaker 6: the coaches, it's the assistance, is some of the football people,
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  Speaker 6: and it's support staff that are around the team. It's
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  Speaker 6: making sure that everyone understands expectation, how you want those
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  Speaker 6: things done. And for head coach, a lot of times,
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  Speaker 6: man that first year, first two years is literally like
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  Speaker 6: drinking from a fire hydrant here trying to figure out
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  Speaker 6: how to exist, and there's a lot coming at you
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  Speaker 6: on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 3: The new season is right around the corner, and the
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  Speaker 5: Quick as well, season goes fast it's.
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  Speaker 2: Suddle up with Bucky Brooks S. That's John Oser. I'm
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  Speaker 2: JP Shadwick, Bucky Brooks along with us in LA on the.
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  Speaker 3: Other side of the equation for the Jaguars. Three weeks
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  Speaker 3: now to the NFL Draft led by James Gladstone. John,
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  Speaker 3: you had a chance to sit down with him. We
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  Speaker 3: heard it yesterday on Jags Am. It's available on the
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars YouTube channel. You're one on one with him, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, the thirty four year old guy trying to
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  Speaker 3: establish his part of the organization as well and get
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  Speaker 3: things going. We saw his work and the team's work
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  Speaker 3: during the free agency period. That worked out pretty well
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  Speaker 3: from all accounts. And now it's onto the draft where
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  Speaker 3: he's had a major success over the years out in
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  Speaker 3: Los Angeles, and well, now what's I guess what's left
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  Speaker 3: from here on out?
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  Speaker 2: Bucky?
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  Speaker 3: You think with three weeks to go for a general
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  Speaker 3: manager to button up before draft.
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  Speaker 4: Night, Well, and now all the attention is on the draft.
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  Speaker 6: To make sure that you have all the information that
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  Speaker 6: you need to make a good decision overdraft, we can,
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  Speaker 6: and that will require making sure you get all the
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  Speaker 6: medical stuff in, all the background checks are done, the
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  Speaker 6: final film evaluations from the coaches and the scouts have
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  Speaker 6: to be submitted, and then you've got to have the
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  Speaker 6: hard conversation. You've got to have the hard meetings to
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  Speaker 6: make sure that everyone is on board with what they
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  Speaker 6: think about the players. How do we stack them? If
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  Speaker 6: these three guys are lumped together, what's the order in
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  Speaker 6: which they come off? Do we feel good about this position?
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  Speaker 6: All of those things. Can we begin to talk about
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  Speaker 6: scenarios and mock drafts.
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  Speaker 4: So there are a lot of procedural things that you
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  Speaker 4: have to get done.
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  Speaker 6: While also finalizing the I mean, the last five percent
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  Speaker 6: of the evaluations that have to be done.
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  Speaker 5: Buck, You've ben in a lot of draft rooms. What's
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  Speaker 5: the key for a general manager when they're running the draft?
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  Speaker 5: And I'm just saying that because Gladstone's going into his
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  Speaker 5: first one. He clearly had big, big influences need gave
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  Speaker 5: him a lot of responsibility setting it up, but that
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  Speaker 5: decision making role at some point he's got to sway
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  Speaker 5: it right. Like there's all the system, all the information
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  Speaker 5: going up to him. You can set up the information flow.
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  Speaker 5: I guess I'm asking when you were working for GMS,
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  Speaker 5: what was the trait that gave you confidence in them,
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  Speaker 5: or the thing they did that you knew. Okay, this
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  Speaker 5: guy's driving the car this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 6: It's funny because it depends on the setup. It depends
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  Speaker 6: on who has like final say, whether it's the head
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  Speaker 6: coach or the general manager. But I would say the
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  Speaker 6: best leaders and team builders do a great job of
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  Speaker 6: understanding and selling the vision of the kind of team
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  Speaker 6: that they want and holding people accountable to making sure
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  Speaker 6: that the people that were bringing in match division of
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  Speaker 6: the team.
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  Speaker 4: And so we talked about the buzz of culture.
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  Speaker 6: Are these guys the right fit not only schematically, but
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  Speaker 6: do they fit.
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  Speaker 4: In the locker room?
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  Speaker 6: And then the general manager's job is basically like people
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  Speaker 6: talk about CEOs. He's the cerro, He's the chief reminder officer.
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  Speaker 6: His job is to remind the head coaches, the coaches,
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  Speaker 6: the scouts.
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  Speaker 4: Here's what we're about. Now.
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  Speaker 6: As we get close to it and you like this player,
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  Speaker 6: my job is to remind you does it fit, does
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  Speaker 6: it work? And does this bring us closer to winning?
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  Speaker 6: Because if it doesn't, we need to make sure that
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  Speaker 6: we get back on the right trap. So a lot
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  Speaker 6: of it is making sure that everyone in the room
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  Speaker 6: can bowld with bumpers. Let's just make sure we're bowling
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  Speaker 6: with bumpers, not getting wayward and staying on path because
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  Speaker 6: all of the work that's been done, now you just
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  Speaker 6: got to make sure that you stick to the plan
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  Speaker 6: and don't deviate during the last part of the process.
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  Speaker 5: That's that's uh, it's good. I mean that that fits
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  Speaker 5: into our ecosystem.
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  Speaker 2: That's certainly.
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  Speaker 3: Executives as well, apparently, So that's uh, that's coming up
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  Speaker 3: in three weeks. So Bucky, what's your You know, you
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  Speaker 3: haven't done another mock since three point Oh I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't think I looked earlier today. I didn't see one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, So right now the focus is uh, not
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  Speaker 4: on mocks. I got a mock probably in a couple
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  Speaker 4: of weeks that I'll.
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  Speaker 6: Knock out, but more so like these top five lists
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  Speaker 6: and eventually putting together a top.
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  Speaker 4: Fifty, top one hundred lists.
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  Speaker 6: So on draft night, Draft weekend, we can begin to
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  Speaker 6: kind of assess where these guys are going talk about
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  Speaker 6: all the players, so a lot of it is really
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  Speaker 6: just looking at these prospects and reminding myself why I
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  Speaker 6: like some guys initially, and make sure that you know
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  Speaker 6: when you're talking and talking a lot about players, sometimes
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  Speaker 6: you get tired of saying the same things. But you
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  Speaker 6: got to be careful what you say, because at one
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  Speaker 6: moment that you deviate too far from what you've been.
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  Speaker 4: Saying, it changes everything.
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  Speaker 6: So you want to make sure you say true to
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  Speaker 6: your evaluation and your film study while also kind of
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  Speaker 6: giving it a little different spin in flavor.
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  Speaker 4: From time to time. We talked about they.
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  Speaker 5: So you're your own Cira.
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  Speaker 6: Sometimes you gotta make notes and check some balances and
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  Speaker 6: make sure that you don't go too far.
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  Speaker 4: And sometimes we say, oh, you know, I went a
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  Speaker 4: little forward, that like a little far. I gotta come
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  Speaker 4: back and bring it back.
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  Speaker 6: But now this is the fun part of it, because
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  Speaker 6: you'll see it like on Monday when the guys come in.
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  Speaker 4: All the excitement they'd be like the first day.
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  Speaker 6: Of school down in Jackson, and when those guys get
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  Speaker 6: around each other and the coaches and those things. And
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  Speaker 6: then in another month when you bring the draft picks,
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  Speaker 6: it's all over again, and that's when it gets real.
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  Speaker 6: That's when we really can start castingized next year and
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  Speaker 6: begin to kind of speculate on what kind of team
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  Speaker 6: we're gonna have going forward.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I know we got what like three weeks for
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  Speaker 5: the draft, now, ish tell me about number five? Are
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  Speaker 5: they You got a little bit of a vibe at
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  Speaker 5: the owner's meetings like there's a feeling of not being
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  Speaker 5: stuck there, but that that's gonna be a tricky spot.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not sure all the mocks are right on Mason Graham.
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  Speaker 5: I think they're going to have decisions to make. I
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  Speaker 5: think it's gonna be an interesting three weeks of speculation
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  Speaker 5: on that spot.
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  Speaker 6: You know what, I agree with you, and I would
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  Speaker 6: say when you're sitting at five not that you're in.
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  Speaker 4: A weird spot. Because when you.
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  Speaker 6: Look at the elite prospects, right, if we ask who
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  Speaker 6: are the elite prospects and things people are always talking
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  Speaker 6: about in some kind of order, like Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter,
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  Speaker 6: they're beginning to throw cam Ward in as an elite guy.
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  Speaker 6: Mason Graham and some of those other guys are like
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  Speaker 6: right on the borderline in terms of being elite, like
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  Speaker 6: really really good, but not quite toolsy enough to go
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  Speaker 6: on to the elite grade.
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  Speaker 4: So when you're the Jaguars, you're.
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  Speaker 6: Sitting there at five, and that spot has been really
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  Speaker 6: really successful for a lot of teams in terms of
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  Speaker 6: finding parenteral Pro Bowlers and those things.
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  Speaker 4: Who is the best.
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  Speaker 2: Football player that is.
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  Speaker 6: There, the guy that can come in and dominate at
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  Speaker 6: whatever position you're doing.
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  Speaker 4: Not the best player at a position to need, but
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  Speaker 4: a guy who's just a really good football player. I
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  Speaker 4: think is really important.
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  Speaker 6: For the Jags to hone in on finding a really
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  Speaker 6: good football player that can be a guy that competes
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  Speaker 6: and contents for Pro Bowl honors annually those things. And
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: so whether that is a defensive tackle with a Mason
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: Graham type, whether that's an offensive lineman, whether that's the
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: defensive back, I think all those things should be on
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: the table. But I'm gona be honest with you, like
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: some of the things that have been talked about, those
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: positions don't necessarily fit. So it doesn't always line up
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: in terms of the talent and what you need. Because
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: if you ask me, the Jaguars could be sitting there
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: and one of the best prospects on the board could.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Be like an Assid Gentsy, but that's not necessarily a
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: fit for the Jags, you know.
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  Speaker 6: And then if you talk about like, oh, they can
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: get young get wide receiver. None of those wide receivers
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  Speaker 6: carry that grade per se. So there's a lot of uncertainty.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: About how how do you make sure that where.
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: You're drafting, you're getting someone whose talent matches the value
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: of that pick hard thing. That's why Glasstone and Liam
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: Corner in the.
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  Speaker 4: Meeting now trying to figure it out.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't imagine if they picked a running back in five,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: this place would melt down.
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but what if it was a good one, what
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: if it was a Fred Taylor type.
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: I don't know, because it's just so expecting, you know,
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: I know, And it's such a tricky spot.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: The reason why it's tricky is.
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: Because literally at five, right, So if we're talking about
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: the popularity part of mock drafting or whatever, like Mason
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: Graham would probably strike the people in Jacksonville's page paint
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: like that's fine, but you're not excited, right, it's not
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: a shiny toy.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: It's no one that you're like, yeah, you can't wait
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: to see it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: It's like, okay, he's a good player, but a lot
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: of us don't really know what they do unless we
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: see sacks.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: But if I give you.
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: A shiny too on the outside, Like if Travis Hunter,
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: for somehow was able to fall, well, now you can
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: get excited about that because you can see him, you
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: can kind of quantify what he's going to do or
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: what he can do for your team. But some of
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: those other guys don't fit. Will Johnson's been hurt, so
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: we can't really talk about him in that regard. It's
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: a really tricky spot being at five. And the thing
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: about it, the only about fifteen first round prospects in
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: this class, and I think that's probably being.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Generous by saying fifteen. Normally you would have eighteen.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: To twenty two and me saying fifteen, I would say
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: I'm probably stretching it to make that even true.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Maybe twelve.
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: So what do you do because everyone say, oh, I
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: trade down, but what no one wants to trade up.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Everybody says trading's really popular in you know, April before
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: the draft.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Trade machine.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But like you have to have a partner.
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: There has to be a player that someone wants to
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: move up to get all of those things factor into it.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: So they have to be two or.
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: Three guys that the coaches in front off is like
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: kind of target as guys that he if we're stuck
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: at five.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Here's the guys that we can take.
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: And we feel great about, but it may not be
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: a very very popular pick with the home base.
• 19:26
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• 19:27
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• 19:48
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• 19:51
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• 19:54
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• 19:57
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• 19:59
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• 20:05
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• 20:11
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• 20:15
  Speaker 2: And apparently we're all going to T paint. Okay, sounds
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: like a plan.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I love that all right.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: So you've got a full plate, Bucky the next three weeks, certainly,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: and we've got covered here on Jaguars dot Com as
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: well with Jack's Happy Hour Radio tomorrow, Jack's Am on Tuesday.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: How's Happy Hour going? I know we got some different
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: people coming through there, so laying fill in.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Austin here last week.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: He's the only one that's coming and Log him and
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: will be back here tomorrow.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: So we got log Himan off the boat. Loghman is
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: not fishing. He's back, okay, all right.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much he caught, but whatever, that's fine.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Logoman does three things in the off season, happy hour,
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: killing and fishing.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Wow, I'm not arguing with that. Whatever, And then what
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: do you got, John? You got the ozone podcasts.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: The Ozone podcast talked to Les Sneid this week. Bucky, Uh,
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: it was. It was great talking to him.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you knew him in the old days.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: I knew him vaguely, like we would pass each other
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: in the rubber hallway. We sort of joked. Less was
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: uh at the driving players to the airport stage of
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: his career. But he is a guy you remember. And uh,
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: you know, for fans listening to this, if you want
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: some insight into James Gladstone and into Tony PSELLI you know.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: And he had some very interesting things to say about
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: his vibe from Tony, about the culture and what Tony
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: can bring in terms of making sure this organization knows
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: what the Jaguars are about and then he was great
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: on James Glasstone obviously because he basically invented James Gladstone.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: So very good stuff this week, and that's coming when
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: sometime this week. I'm not sure when they're gonna post it,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: but it'll be on the site this week on Jaguars
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: Media channels.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Let me say this on the official Jaguars podcast network, right, okay,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: we'll look forward to that.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Bucky. You've got a full play to shows, right everything?
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, but this is a fun boy. I can't wait.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: I can't wait to just say some crazy So I
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: let me see if I can stir it up sometime
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: this week.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: To grace some conversation, you know what I mean?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Here, we can do.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: We'll do it again next week.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Buck, appreciate it, all right, man, let's do it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks out of here, shot Osher. I'm JP Shadwick.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Thanks to our tire crude.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: So fortunate out Old Brent Reaver, and thanks to you
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: for listening and watching Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Theatic Pat