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#332 - Baron Davis · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yo, yo yo. What's up? Is Baron Davis aka the
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  Speaker 1: presenter of bart Oatmeal the Legend Get a Bowl and
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  Speaker 1: you can catch me on the buleg kV podcast show
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  Speaker 1: Believe Bluelet cav Podcast. We got a special guest in here,
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  Speaker 1: a legend. His name is Baron Davis, Hey, bar Oatmeal
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  Speaker 1: Believe Get a Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I just want to give you
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  Speaker 2: props because I'm a basketball fanatic and you were one
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  Speaker 2: of my favorite players to ever watch. I remember when
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  Speaker 2: you got drafted by the Hornets, like watching like the
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  Speaker 2: early Hornets days. Man, you was like a fucking you
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  Speaker 2: were just like a shot of energy in the league,
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  Speaker 2: like on.
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  Speaker 1: Your size, could dunk on everybody. Like, man, you have
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  Speaker 1: to you know, you have to come in the league
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  Speaker 1: back then, like you have to make a name for yourself.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You coming in the league
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  Speaker 1: with you know, you got juggernauts. Still you got stop
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  Speaker 1: some malons, like because when you get drafted ninety ninety nine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's like, yeah, Penny was still around, uh.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody every day. It was just coming into his own.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Nash just was coming into his own. So it
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  Speaker 1: was like the the it was kind of before the
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  Speaker 1: wild point guard renaissance. Yeah, like midw I would say,
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  Speaker 1: we had a hell of a point guard renaissance. So
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  Speaker 1: my air is pretty you know well, I mean yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean especially I think that was the start because
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  Speaker 1: you were coming in while a lot of those guys
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  Speaker 1: like stocked In and the traditional point guard Mark Jackson
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  Speaker 1: were going out. Yeah, Mark Jackson was a post up
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  Speaker 1: point guard. Ros Strickland was to get to the whole
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  Speaker 1: type of point guard. So they was all k was there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was in his prime.
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  Speaker 2: Now I still don't know because I hear people consider
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  Speaker 2: him like he's more of a shooting He was a
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  Speaker 2: guard on that team. Yeah, Eric Snow was the point guard. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he was a scoring guard. I remember those battles man,
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  Speaker 2: you against that dude.
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  Speaker 1: He was sick. Yeah. Yo.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you because I feel like
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  Speaker 2: correct if I'm wrong. I remember seeing something when I
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  Speaker 2: was like younger, when you were in the league. Were
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  Speaker 2: you throwing up your neighborhood like ever on video, like
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  Speaker 2: when you were like making shots and shit? Because that
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  Speaker 2: never happened, okay, Because I wanted to ask you about
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  Speaker 2: how you feel about the job and ran shit because
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  Speaker 2: I was in the job rane kind of interesting, and
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  Speaker 2: you were obviously a young kid who came from a
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  Speaker 2: serious area of LA got drafted into the league.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you dealt with a lot of shit. I
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  Speaker 1: was just guilty by association. But I mean I don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember, you know, maybe off the court, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember. Like on the court, maybe I did.
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  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you get hype, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: like anything happened. But obviously you you know, we did
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  Speaker 1: a lot back then. You feel what I'm saying. It
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  Speaker 1: was a lot. We did a lot back then, and
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  Speaker 1: there was a lot of you know, if we had
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  Speaker 1: social media back then, everybody will be like have horrible
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  Speaker 1: Tarnus images, you know what I mean, because it was
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  Speaker 1: just you know, back in the day, like you could
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  Speaker 1: win no camera phones, so like whatever was cracking, you know,
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  Speaker 1: right then and there it was what was cracking, Like
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  Speaker 1: you have to have a video person, You have to
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  Speaker 1: tell somebody bring a camera, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Back then, So you know a lot of people was
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  Speaker 1: like not so much getting in trouble, like cause I
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  Speaker 1: don't think John Morett is in trouble, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? Like he did some you know, some stupid shit, right,
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  Speaker 1: but at the same time, like we've been doing like
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  Speaker 1: we've been doing stupid shit for the longest time, long time.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a microscope. Yeah, yeah, it's under a microscope.
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  Speaker 1: Because you know, I was saying to uh, just to
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  Speaker 1: my friends, Man, I'm you know, I cried on my
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  Speaker 1: twenty fifth birthday. I cried on my thirtieth birthday, and
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  Speaker 1: on my thirty fifth birthday, I was like, damn, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna actually live, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. And so just thinking about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that journey from the time I got drafted to the
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  Speaker 1: time I hit thirty was just it was just a
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  Speaker 1: lot coming back home, you know what I mean, having
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  Speaker 1: to deal with that, you know, being on the road
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  Speaker 1: people you know, just during the season, people think you
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  Speaker 1: SAWT say something to you. You know, you gotta go
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  Speaker 1: find him in off season and see if it's real,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like just wow, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. And like I think, once I kind
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  Speaker 1: of got to go to the state, you know, things
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  Speaker 1: just start kind of like leveling out. I was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: let me change, let me change who I am, and like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to be this. This is not me,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm not I'm not like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not like this, you know, I want to be
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  Speaker 1: What do you have to prove? Like I didn't have shit?
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  Speaker 2: You're you know you're a millionaire on TV every day
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  Speaker 2: you ain't.
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  Speaker 1: At the same time, like, bro, I'm scared to die. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's real out here, you know what I mean, Like
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  Speaker 1: they shoot at athletes out here back in the day, crazy, right,
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  Speaker 1: Remember Jalen Rose got shot at. Why are you shooting
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  Speaker 1: at Jalen Rose? Right? Who the fuck shoots at Jalen Rose?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And he was on Sunset,
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  Speaker 1: so that just you know, for me, it was just
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  Speaker 1: like that era was a lot of jacking, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It was a lot of pressure, extortion. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: NBA players are getting extorted, Paul Day, NBA players, rappers, uh, musicians,
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  Speaker 1: anybody came to LA. It was just not a good
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  Speaker 1: place to be, you know what I mean. Like if
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  Speaker 1: you got found or you was out shopping. It like
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  Speaker 1: if if you can stay low cool, but back then
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  Speaker 1: if you was, you was on the move and you
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  Speaker 1: get caught it. I mean, you at Thay mercy.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, because I always like, like, obviously
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff is highly back to the
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  Speaker 2: camera phones thing. We see a lot more of the
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  Speaker 2: people getting robbed on Sunset or on Melrose, and it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that kind of shit has always been happening in LA.
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  Speaker 2: But I feel like back in the day it was
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  Speaker 2: really like peak, you kind of had to come to
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  Speaker 2: LA and like if you were gonna move around, you
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  Speaker 2: really had to be in line with some guys to
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  Speaker 2: make sure that there wasn't any sort of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was the whole Like, uh, the tap
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  Speaker 1: In era, the tap In era, people's chains were getting
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  Speaker 1: took people. Yeah, you get the chain back, We got it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I got a couple of chains
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  Speaker 1: back from some for some uh some rappers actually no
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  Speaker 1: basketball players who changed, you get.
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  Speaker 2: We don't talk like that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what labeled the I just know
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  Speaker 1: they one of my favorite, you know, one of my favorites. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a couple of rappers, man, just that's just
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  Speaker 1: how it be, you know what I mean, Like couple
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  Speaker 1: rappers just like come to and you gotta think like
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: coming up in that game era, the era with the game.
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  Speaker 1: When Game was first starting to like break out, like,
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  Speaker 1: it was no blood rappers. It wasn't no bloods famous period,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you really think outside of Mac ten, Yeah
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  Speaker 2: it was Mac ten and then and then the game,
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  Speaker 2: and then everybody was a blood.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody started being bloods, you know what I mean. So
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  Speaker 1: imagine like rocking with a blood that is on his
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  Speaker 1: way up, you know what I mean. In LA. So
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  Speaker 1: it was a lot to deal with with that.
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  Speaker 2: And he was the face of LA for like a decade.
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  Speaker 2: He carried the whole coast for like a very long.
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  Speaker 1: Shit and and I think it just kind of for me,
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  Speaker 1: like hanging with Game made me realize that, Okay, men,
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  Speaker 1: my plan was me and Game rocking together. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he can unify the music, I can unify the hoop,
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  Speaker 1: and then we can create this l a unified system
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  Speaker 1: where like we can make it better for dudes, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we can stop all the
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  Speaker 1: jacket and shit like that. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: Like at least if they're fucking with us, they rolling
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  Speaker 1: with us, they ain't gonna get jacked, You don't gonna
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  Speaker 1: get robbed, ain't gonna get into no funny business, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean? And like that was the goal
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  Speaker 1: is really Like once I saw that, I was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: like Nip coming, Domn coming. You know. YG had had
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  Speaker 1: a couple of songs, but YG was on his what
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: dudes just like on They Rise. And I was like, damn, dude, Kendrick,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Jay Rock was out, but
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  Speaker 1: Jay Rock was like on his wife. So like, I
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  Speaker 1: remember we did the Gang, the Cripson Bloods Gang documentary,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I need to put a
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  Speaker 1: soundtrack together, and on the soundtrack it's all them dudes,
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  Speaker 1: like damn their first soundtrack, right, I remember album? How
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  Speaker 1: long ago was that documentary?
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  Speaker 3: I think I want to say twelve four. I think
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  Speaker 3: two thousand and four.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, Yeah, it was like two thousand and four
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  Speaker 1: or when I got to Yeah, it was like two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and four. I think I was in New Orleans
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  Speaker 1: when that came out.
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  Speaker 2: When you end up on the Clippers, being a guy
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  Speaker 2: who's from where you're from, playing in LA obviously not
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  Speaker 2: for the Lakers, but playing for the Clippers, sure, you
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  Speaker 2: guys have a very very entertaining team. But was it
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  Speaker 2: like how much of the like extra shit did you
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  Speaker 2: have to deal with it?
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  Speaker 1: Being home all of it? Uh, you know what, like
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  Speaker 1: being playing for the Clippers, Like and I never really
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  Speaker 1: talk about that shit because people always talk about Doun
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  Speaker 1: Levy or Donald Sterling, you know what I mean, But
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  Speaker 1: just playing for the Clippers. Like my mission when I
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  Speaker 1: left Golden State was like, all right, I know the
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  Speaker 1: Clippers are the Clippers. I'm coming back home to hopefully
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  Speaker 1: do what I did in Golden State. I told Golden State,
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  Speaker 1: give me three years, you know what I mean, with
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  Speaker 1: being the playoffs if we get the right people around,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, that's what I like,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to do. So coming here it
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  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, if I can get the Clippers to
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs, if I can turn the Clippers around, then
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  Speaker 1: there'll be a whole different story, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: so historical, it would have been historical, and so like
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  Speaker 1: that was kind of like my mission. It was like
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  Speaker 1: I need to get through those first three years because
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  Speaker 1: the first three years is all bullshit, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. You gotta clean up, you know, all of
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  Speaker 1: just negative shit that be going around and you gotta
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  Speaker 1: protect your teammates, and then you gotta build your teammates
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  Speaker 1: to where they feel like they can walk in like
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  Speaker 1: we walking in the season and like it's just us,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And then it's us and
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  Speaker 1: the coaches and then everybody else. It's our family, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I think with the Clippers,
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  Speaker 1: it was just that's it was just hard, bro. That's
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  Speaker 1: it was just hard because it was a lot of racism, sexism, backstabbing,
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  Speaker 1: people telling lines, snitching and shit. And I was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I thought we came to work to play basketball. So
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  Speaker 1: all of the Donald Sterling shit was very accurate, extremely
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  Speaker 1: extremely accurate, you know, I mean, besides him, you know,
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  Speaker 1: being like a piece of shit in the scum of
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  Speaker 1: the earth, Like he's actually that speaking of extorted, he
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  Speaker 1: got shopped down for real. Sure he got him on
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  Speaker 1: camera video. Yeah she did him dirty. But he deserved it.
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  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, he deserves. He deserved way more than that, bro,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You desive a lot worse
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  Speaker 1: than that.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy because I went from having this like like
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  Speaker 2: genuine like love for the Warriors growing up as a kid.
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  Speaker 2: They were kind of like that fun team to always watch.
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  Speaker 2: And then obviously the era of you, Michael Petrice, Barnes,
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  Speaker 2: Jay rich was such a dope era. But then fast
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  Speaker 2: forward to this whole lass like decade of basketball. I
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  Speaker 2: fucking cannot stand these Warrior fans now again, because they
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  Speaker 2: knew they're new.
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  Speaker 1: Listen. I lived in Tampa, Florida.
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  Speaker 2: I was doing rady on Tampa at the time when
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  Speaker 2: the Steph Curry and and and the lebron and shit
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  Speaker 2: was happening. And I'm in Tampa, and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: there's just this influx of hardcore Warriors fans in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of Florida. And I'm like, where were y'all when
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  Speaker 2: Mitch Richmond was there, Chris Mullen, Yeah, Baron Davis. But
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  Speaker 2: it it's crazy because you have such like a place
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  Speaker 2: in Bay Area history, in Warrior history. What is it
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  Speaker 2: like for you to kind of you like, the Warriors
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  Speaker 2: are kind of like a forgotten franchise and I feel
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  Speaker 2: like you helped kind of re establish them on the map,
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  Speaker 2: but now they're like the franchise. Ye, what's that like
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  Speaker 2: to kind of just witness like.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing, man, you know, I just consider myself the
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  Speaker 1: curse breaker. You are the curse breaker. I am definitely
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  Speaker 1: the cursebreaker. Uh. And I you know, I just kind
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  Speaker 1: of like I love watching the Warriors play. They played
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  Speaker 1: the right way. I'm a huge Steph Curry fan. I
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  Speaker 1: never forget saying to the Warriors, like when I signed
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  Speaker 1: with the Clippers, like y'all don't even like y'all gonna
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  Speaker 1: forget about me, like this kid is he's next, he's
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  Speaker 1: your future. And when they win the championship, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I went to you know what I mean? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: And you know I was. I would say, just for
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  Speaker 1: us with that, we would leave squad and me in
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  Speaker 1: the Bay Area. It wasn't just on the court, it
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  Speaker 1: was off the court. Is being accessible to people in Oakland,
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco, in the hood, in corporate, in tech and
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  Speaker 1: so like, you know, the Bay Area to me is home.
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  Speaker 1: And that's hard to say before La, dude, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, But it's like I got I got
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  Speaker 1: real family, real real people who take care of me,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Uh, in the Bay Area.
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  Speaker 1: So like whether I'm in LA or the Bay's, no,
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  Speaker 1: there's no difference, and there's definitely no hate. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying in between anymore. So you know, my
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  Speaker 1: goal was just when I went to Golden State was like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: like we got to establish ourselves as somebody, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. Like we can't just be like the
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  Speaker 1: dead corpse, you know what I mean that a Pacific Division.
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  Speaker 1: We got to have at least a style. So if
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  Speaker 1: we get beat, like whattherfucker's it's like, oh, good game,
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  Speaker 1: that's you know what I mean, Like I got game work. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But when when I got there, that shit was dead.
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  Speaker 1: It was you know, it was just like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of dead energy and dudes didn't even want to play basketball.
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  Speaker 1: So for me, it was like, how the fuck don't
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  Speaker 1: you want to play basketball? This is like how you
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  Speaker 1: relieve your stress, your mental health, all that shit, Like
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  Speaker 1: basketball was that. And so once we kind of like
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  Speaker 1: got to a point, I think the city was just
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  Speaker 1: like hold on, Like we got people who actually care
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  Speaker 1: because nobody liked before whether you wanted to be there
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  Speaker 1: or not, you didn't know because they just kept trading
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  Speaker 1: coaches and players in and out. You know, Don Nelson
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  Speaker 1: Mike Montgomery was the coach when I first got there,
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  Speaker 1: and then we had a little success at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the year, and then they brought him back, which
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: was a bad move for the second year, and he
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  Speaker 1: started coaching you know what I mean, which is yeah,
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  Speaker 1: not probably something he can really do well, Ladies of
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  Speaker 1: good dude. And then Don Nelson came in after Mike Montgomery. Yeah. Crazy,
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  Speaker 1: and then we believe the year Dog it was crazy. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we sucked that year year. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: guys are the eight seeds, you get the playoffs barely,
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  Speaker 1: like uh at all. At All Star Break, there was
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  Speaker 1: like we were the odd person out, kind of like
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  Speaker 1: the Lakers this year. They were the thirteen seed at
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  Speaker 1: the All Star That's exactly where we were. And then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we just hit a run, like
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  Speaker 1: we figured it out, you know what I mean, Like.
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  Speaker 2: Were you there the year that Steph got drafted or
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  Speaker 2: was that in the off season traded off season?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we missed the playoffs. I go to the Clippers.
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  Speaker 1: The Clippers have a bad year, the Warriors have a
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: bad year. The Warriors draft Steph Curry. You know, Pick,
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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a huge Stuns fan, and I have to ask
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  Speaker 2: you because you and this guy aren't necessarily tied together
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: but you guys do have some kind of coincidential yet
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  Speaker 2: it's you and because obviously you leave the Clippers. He yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for sure, you leave the Hornets Chris Paul team. What's
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  Speaker 2: your relationship like with CP and is there I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 2: I have friends on the Suns, and I would say
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  Speaker 2: most of my friends are not.
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  Speaker 1: Too fond of Chris.
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  Speaker 2: What is your like does he get a bad rap
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  Speaker 2: amongst other NBA players? And how's your guys' relationship because
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  Speaker 2: you guys are kind of tied together with two friendchies.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and crazy enough. I got all the love
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  Speaker 1: and respect for Chris Paul when Chris Paul was at
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Wake Forest. I called Chris Paul when I was in
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: the league, like, yo, bro, I fox with you. I
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: think his grandfather died. I was like, man, shouting you out,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: like you gonna you know what I mean, just like
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: kind of like you know, we're brotherhood at the end
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: of the day, for sure. So like me and Chris
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: have always been linked like that. And so when I
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: left Charlotte, New Orleans and he came in, I kind
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: of figure like, all right, I'm gonna clean this ship
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: up and then I'm gonna let Chris Paul. Then Chris
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Paul gonna come in and take it, you know, to
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: another level. But you know, I just think as a player,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: like he's an incredible point guard, you know what I mean.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I think that's end.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a rising guy. Feels like with like his teammates.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a big personality. I think when you look
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: at him, you think, you know, CEO president, you know
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: what I mean, Corporate Players Associations President of NBA players.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: So when you're looking at that, you know, at your
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: leader out there on the floor, you know, like he
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: he coming with a full corporate you know what I mean,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: corporate like he running it. He running that team away.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: He want to run a team. You feel very much
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: a coach on the floor. Big guy. Yeah, he'll be
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: a great He'll be an excellent coach, for sure. He
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: will be an excellent coach.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like like you said, like he's he's very
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: much he's running the team.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: He's just he he come in like his ship is
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: corporate business.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: You've played for a lot of coaches and I do
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: feel like that. We'll see certain teams like make a
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: coaching change, and it's like day and night right, How
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: important is coach like a coach like on an NBA team,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Because a lot of times you'll hear, I guess, generic
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: basketball fans, it's about it's in the players hands, like
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: the players ain't performing.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Man, No, it's it's you played for some bad coaches.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: You played for some great coaches. Play play for some
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: terrible coaches. I played for some great coaches too. I
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: played for some coaches that had we had one or
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: two other pieces, they would have been Hall of Fame. Come.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Championship coaches, the team dynamic
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: and the coach dynamic, Like you need a good coach.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Good coaches are hard to come by. What determines a
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: good coach? You know what I mean? A lot of
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: coaches when they come into the business, they like they
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: have established who they are, their style, what they're gonna do.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: A lot of times coaches that are players separate themselves
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: from the players today in order to be okay coaching. Then,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Seems like at times like if there's a guy who
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: used to play, they kind.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Of Mike, Hey, dude, Mike Dunlevy, he played in the league,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: and all he would talk about in reference is when
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: he played, which was like in the fucking seventies. Gives
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: a fuck, You're not like you're and you're a point guard.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: So like I used to always be like like, yeah,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: when I play, I said, coach, if you played in
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: this Ara Bro sweater, guy, I elbow you in your face.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I follow you to the locker room, elbow you again. Well,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: he wasn't a great He was not that great of coach.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Mike Dunnet. He was tough. He wan't to get along.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: He he he was his son. Never on your guys team. No.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I played with Mike Mike Jr. Mike Jr. Is dope.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: He was cool. I played with Mike Jr. And Golden State.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: He actually got he was the trade. He was the
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: person that they traded to Indiana for stat Uh and
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Al Harrington. But like that's your crazy team.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: It was a it was a how much weed was
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: getting passed around in that and those off off season
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: when you guys were like, you know, how they move together?
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Everybody was one of the highest teams in the NBA.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: It was up.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: It was you had Al Harrington, Stephen John Well, he's
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: got a week now.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: But it's all yeah, But he he based that off
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: his grandma. And then Matt Barnes, Matt Barnes pothead. Oh
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: my good, Stephen Jackson podhead. I'm smoking. I'm a smoker.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not a pot heead just I mean, I wouldn't
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: say that I'm a I'm a smoke, but I ain't
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: no pot. You know. I guess now maybe how crazy.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Was like the Bay Area night life scene in like
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: not crazy, not crazy because it still wasn't crazy.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: It's not crazy, but it was up, you know what
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I mean when we was winning, it was up because.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: That was like right after like the hyph Era was
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: like it was it was in the middle of it
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: was almost it was Yeah, we were still getting Hyphie
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: and ship.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Uh you know, to kick the sneak we was running.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: We was running that up. Uh who else was we
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: running out? Mister fab has federation. Federation that was old,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: that was older. Yeah, we was, Uh obviously forty is
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: always forty. Forty was cool. Let me ask you. Forty
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: wasn't around when we was forty was not? I was
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: gonna ask forty wasn't around, Ron.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Rolle, forty forty went, whether we believe you no, never
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: we have to talk forty next time I see him
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: and be like, you know, didd he said, you wasn't there, bro, No,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: he wasn't there.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: He went, No, he he showed up a couple of
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: times and ship. But you gotta think like in that time,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: he forty was touring and traveling. True, he had to
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the joint ghetto report the ship with fab and all that.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: So for us, it was like shit, if he forty
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: would have came to the game, it would have like
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: we matched E forty. You feel what I'm saying, Like
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: our energy match E forty. Like we we the ones
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: who started telling the Warriors, ya, why we playing Bay
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Area music when we at home? You know what I mean.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I remember, I'm only in town for the uh oh
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: yeah mister yeah. Like we've been yeah life for the party.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: So we've been in layups and somebody lay up like this,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: everybody just start dancing and ship fuck the lambs. We
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: just start grooving in the lawn. It was cool, man.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: We had a We had a great fun team, and
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: it matched the personality of the city, of the city
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: of the whole entire Bay you know what I mean.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Because it wasn't just like, oh, we was stugging out,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: smoking weed and ship like that. Like, no, we was
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: doing a lot. Bro. I was like, I just start
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: getting in tech. You know. Matt and Stacked, they were
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: always in the city doing you know, dope charity work.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Monte was doing. You know, was a young young boy
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and he was a young he was a young dog.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: He was a young dog. Jack Rich had been there
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: for five six, seven years doing everything. Rich is a beast.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: He gave the Sons a couple of great years. Man,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Jay rich Man, when we when I when I got there,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, man, I remember sitting on the bus
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and we was all like, man, can we make a playoff?
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Run?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: YadA YadA. We was like in the middle of the run,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I said, Man, we gotta do this shit for Jay
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: rich This man has been in this organization for seven years,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: five years and had eight coaches in five years. And
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: all j Rich wanted to do was get to the playoffs.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: He was the best teammate. He wanted to hoop and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. And he kept playing hurt you
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, shit like that. And I remember,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: because I was a little older in my career, was
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: like this because of injuries, like I didn't give a fuck.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to play because a lot of injuries
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: in your career, and it was harder to not play
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: because all the ship that was going on that you
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: can get involved in when you just hurt and not playing,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: and people got access when I'm playing, Yeah, I'm busy.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I ain't got no time. So I think, you know,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: even with j Rich, he kept coming back hurt and
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I was like, man, take your time, come back, bro,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: cause like you well we need you know what I mean?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: And like I was just happy that we make the
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: playoffs because like, if you feel our energy, like it
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: was all like, yo, we gotta get to the playoffs
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: with Jay Rich, Jay Rich, you gotta get in the playoffs.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Like you in the playoffs, you're gonna go crazy. And
• 24:21
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• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Have you ever gotten bipped in the Bay. Let's where
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: they crack your window and take your shit.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Na uh uh you know that's the thing in the
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: bay maybe bipping. It's called bipsitty Oh is it? I
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: know that?
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: So like now if you go to the Bay and
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: hein't got no car, I'm taking Like if you have
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: a rental, they say, like anybody will tell you you
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: roll your windows down and you pop your trunk open
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: when you park. So that way, when you're going to
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: your restaurant, you're going to the hotel or whatever, nippers will.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Drive by and they've already been. It's been here.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: No no, no, no, they won't even bother it because
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: they'll know ain't nothing in there. The thing is is
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: they'll crack your window even if they don't see anything.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: The windows getting cracked, no matter, just because it's an
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: inconvenience state. Everybody to pop the trunk take everything in that.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: It's wild, super crazy ship.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Yo, talk to me about the U c l A
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Days man, because uh, one of my best friends is
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: a U c l A. Brewing and he was in
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: college in a fraternity when you were playing, and he
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: was just like so excited when I told him that
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: you were going to be on the show. Uh, what
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: was like the energy being because an LA kid at
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: U c l A. Obviously that was crazy. You guys
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: were really good.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We we had once again some problems my freshman year.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Shae Cotton, they didn't let it he was supposed to
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: come with us. Uh. And then Jelani and Chris they
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: got caught up, you know, for smoking during like the
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: first year or whatnot. And so we kind of played
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: like everybody played out of position. My freshman year we
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: started two point guards. Toby Pailey played like the three,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Chris Johnson played the four, Jr. Henderson played the five.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And so it was crazy because we had all the talent.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: If our if our team would have potentially came together,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and we could have sustained it.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: We had all the talent to go out and win it.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: So U c LA it's all about winning national championships
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: for sure. So for me it was just like, man, like,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I want to win the national championship, but I also
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: want to like this bitch on fire, you know what,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, like let's send it up, you know, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: so you know cross Is dunks all that, like we
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: were there that like no matter what we're gonna we're
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: gonna create some entertainment, you know what I mean. Growing
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: up watching U C l A basketball, it was always
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: like they were always good, always highlights. So I was like, man,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I gotta go there and like I gotta make sure
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I get my highlights, you know what I mean, like
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: they remember me. Yeah, it was more so like they
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: have to remember me, Like I can't just be you know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: a traditional point guard. They got good stats and make
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: All Conference. Now I gotta do some ship where these
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: people are gonna remember me, you know what I mean.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like USC has slowly taken over La?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Absolutely no, I gotta ask you because they got they
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: got they got James.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: If you don't, they're definitely taking over. I mean they've
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: kind of had football front. I ain't even got football.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: We beat them, listen. Then Lincoln Riley's a hell of
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: a coach.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: And you know it's a famous quote, it's just SC.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: It's just a SC. Don't worry about.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: It's so crazy to me because those two colleges, like if
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: for people who don't know, Like if you were to
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: just drive around USC, it's in South central, right, and
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: then if you go to the other side of town,
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: it's it's u C l A.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: It's like night and day. The vibes, the just the students,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: like the student flavor and energy is different. You know,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: like SC got like more of a downtown Like they
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: more like downtown, so they got like a New York
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: kind of vibe, you know what I mean, or like
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: a I don't know, a downtown vibe. On the West side,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: people chilling, super laying out. You know, we're going to
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the beach. You know, people from s C. They not
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: driving all the way to the you know what I mean,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: they not driving all the way to the beach. They're
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: going to go trying to find a rooftop pool. Right.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Talk to me about because I always do say that
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: hip hop and basketball have always been so heavily aligned.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: They're parallel to each other.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: There's been a numerous artist outside of yourself that have
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: had ventures in hip hop. I mean I remember growing
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: up in Phoenix, s Mari Stodom.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Had a label.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Everybody growing Rollo had a label. I'm forgetting somebody he.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Had a label. Do you remember the Best Kept Secrets? Yes? Yes,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: of course. Jason Kidd had a song. Jason Kidd, Brian
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Shaw had a song, had a video video. Sid had
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: a video out. Great DJ. People don't great DJ. He
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: can get down? Who else was on that album? I
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: had it? I bought it. Yeah, I feel like I
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: got to remember just being like what these guys are?
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: You know? They was getting off to Dana Barrows. He
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: had a song and a video. It was sick. But
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: but that's what That's what I'm doing now. That's what
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: You're obviously involved in in You've always had your hand
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: in hip hop. I feel like even when you're in
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: the league, you'd pop up in the game video or
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: you would be, you know, around a lot of these guys.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Since obviously ending your career, what has been because you've
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: been involved in so much on the entertainment side, kind
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: of give me a rundown on what's going on on
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: the music side with you right now?
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Yesh I created this character bart Olmeal bart o'mill is
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the legend. The legend is bart Oldmeial. His tag get
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: a ball. You know what I mean? You ain't gotta
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: get one. You know, you can bring one if you
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: have one. Uh. And so I just start thinking about, like, damn,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: my career over. I'm djaying, I want to get better
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: as a DJ, start producing, start sampling, producing, doing all
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: that shit. And then nobody would rap to my beats.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, well I'll start riding
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: and rapping, spin them all. Two beats can't be worse
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: than Chris Webers. No, bro, I got heat. I'm just
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: saying because Chris Webber had a beat on the No.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: He had like two beats on the NA were the
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: worst songs. And I love Chris Webber.
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  Speaker 3: It's like Chris Webb, we got beats that NBA saw
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  Speaker 3: When NA says yes to that beat, it's because you're
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Chris Webber.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: It was a dope sample. He had a dope sample.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: No man, it was shot out the web. He took
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the sample from the from the Whiz on that on.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: That song with the NA song, the one song on
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: hip hop is dad, uh was not it?
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Which wasn't for me? So so yeah, man, I'm producing. Yeah,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: ain't nobody rapping to my ship? All the rappers around
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: here they like, oh yeah, that's cool. You know, I'm like,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: all right, send me, send me the record back. You know,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: it was Curtains Crickets really yeah, but I also feel
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: like it was early too, and so I was like, man,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep grinding. I I don't play basketball
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: no more. So I go to the gym, go to
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the studio, and I started making a studio basketball because
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: then I got a chance to write. So write a script.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: It one day I write a script, one day I
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: write a short story, one day I write you know,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: just start making music and start writing. And so I
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: started making music, start writing, and I wanted to create
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: this character Bart Oatmeal that can speak and say whatever
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: the hell he wanted to, you know what I mean?
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Because Bart and Baron is that completely different. Bart says
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: something that doesn't yeah, and Bart is yeah, Bart, Baron
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Davis created Bart Oldmeal. Bart Oatmeal is slowly not fucking
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: with Baron Davis. Okay, that makes it?
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Would you say that the uphill battle for you is
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: like because we know you as Baron Davis.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So it's hard because.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: We I don't think we've really seen Damian Lewire's done
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: a decent job recently of like you know.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: You can get down. Here's dumb, But.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Is that the uphill battle for you? You would think
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: it's it's like a benefit, but it's also kind of
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: not see you as a as a legendary NBA player player.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's what I you know what I mean,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. This is fun for me.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: You're doing it because you want to? Yeah, I'm doing it.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I'm like, you know, it's also like good
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: mental therapy, you know what I mean. I went to
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I went to the art. Like it's like going into
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: the arts allow me to be able to like kill
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of that anxiety, you feel what I'm saying,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Or be able to sit and watch a game and
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: not have anxiety about if I would it, should have
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: did it? You know? Yeah, none of that, bro, It's
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: just now I get to be around another community and
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: build a community of like dope artists. Still funk with
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: my NBA dudes, you know what I mean. Now they rapping,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: So it gives me reason again to be involved because
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I can produce, curate and then bring the NBA dudes
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: and the rappers together for ballers.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, you are hell yeah, Okay, So I know
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: a couple of guys that wrap it. You might not
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: do you know Jared Jackson Junior raps J Yeah he's
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: recorded here.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's hard trip j what up boy? He came.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: That's my dog, Dame dam It's called Miles Bridges. Miles Bridges,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: who is actually dope Dope, super dope bones, Highland Dope
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Bones Hyland raps. I mean Katie has a song from
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: like twelve years ago. You got to bring the whole
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: everybody together, man. Yeah, all the dudes just like Ola
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Depot he sing. Oh yeah, he could sing like Serge Ibaka.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: He got like kind of like a like an AfroB vibe. Yeah,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: for people have Victor Olipo's don't Yeah, Victor oly Depot
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: can sing for real for real? Uh? Who else? It's
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: a couple other people. Uh. Kawhi he rapped, kaid I
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: put it, he put a he put a compilation out,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: But Kawhi rap see I I yeah, I got, I got.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I was in the studio.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: That hard because I have hard. I have a hard
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: to me. I would I would only assume he had
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: zero flow. No, he hard, bro, He's just like Monday. No, No,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: does he rap like he talks at this press conferences.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: No, I gotta hear this. No, It's it's crazy because
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: you know, we all chilling in the studio and he's
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: playing the ship and I'm like, man, who is that
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: this motherfucker going? He was like, Yo, that's like good,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: that's he was like, hell yeah, wow, Like he dope.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Her Derosan is dope. I don't doubt that. The man
• 37:32
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• 37:34
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• 37:37
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• 37:43
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• 37:48
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• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Hey man, he friends. At the same time, he was
• 37:55
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• 37:58
  Speaker 1: the swag. Terry Roseier is hard. Scary, Terry scary, Terry
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: is hard. Yeah, it's a bunch of dudes. I've just
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: been like DMN dudes, Darren Darren Waller. I think John
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Moran wants to be a rapper. I mean, you should
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: him on something. I'm sure he can't. I'm sure he can.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he can. What would be everybody act like
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: he going to jail or something. It's like, oh, you're
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: gonna have free time. He gonna be honest. It's like, bro,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: he's not going to jail. He didn't commit a crime.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: There's no crime committed. Everybody in the world is like,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: damn John Moran going to jail, John Moran, like you
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: about to do life. It's like, no, he's not, Bro,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: do commit a crime. I know, I think this hard.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I think the whole thing is very overblown. I just
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: think that, you know, once again, we go back to
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: social media. You go back like think about this, right,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: every day you wake up your basketball content you get
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: in from who social media?
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Steven A, Oh yeah steven A or skip skip yeah.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Shannon Shark, JJ Reddick, Richard Jefferson. You feel what I'm saying, Like, man,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: who's credible? I mean, JJ Redick and Richard Man, if
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: you don't knock it off, how could JJ? I mean?
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: And I love JJ Wright, but here a great career, man, Listen,
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  Speaker 1: BRO hit a long career. So did Richard Jefferson. So
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: yes career, they'd had a great career. But the what
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: made JJ Redick like what made me kind of sour
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: on JJ Redick is how he disrespected Jerry Wes. You
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying, that was it. I'm gonna lead
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: that at that, you know what I mean? Yeah, because
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: JJ Reddick should never speak on Jerry West. You can't
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: even sit at the same table, bro, if it's a
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: big ass basketball banquet, you are not you know what
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, You're not at the same table as Jerry West.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Jerry was not even talking to you, bro. To be fair,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: though it ain't no to be fair. I think Jerry West,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: he said, Jerry West played with what plumbers? Right now?
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Go back to JJ Reddick clip and he said, man,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I choose three hundred jumpers a day, you know what
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I mean? I do my workouts was harder, bro. And
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: you couldn't fix a car and go play basketball, JJ
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Reddick did all this just to be an NBA. You
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: couldn't have been a mechanic and did that like so,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: you couldn't have played when there was mechanics, right. I don'
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: want to hear that, you know what I mean. I can't.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I can't listen to that because you put all this
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: work in to be average. He was a specialist. He
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: was average right right right?
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: He was not an All star. He was a he
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: was an average bridge great role player.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: He was average. He's a good role player, he was
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: average Jerry West the logo, right, So we like. The
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: only thing I don't like is like a lot of
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: time people just be saying shit for like clickbait or
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: cloud or probably what they personally feel. But when you
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: look at you know, I'm a historian, When you look
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: at the game, it's like.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: You can't disrespect its rim damn near thirty something bird
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: shoot better than you look at I look at the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: basketball convo kind of like the hip hop convo, right,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: because you can't say something you can't say you can't
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: disrespect run DMC because when they when they started making
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: hip hop, it was a different.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Art form ever disrespected.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying, like when we talk about the all
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: time break list, right for guys liked even like rock Him,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: somehow gets like like slept on that because it's different
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: hip hop.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Dudes was talking shit about Tupac, you feel what I'm saying.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: They was talking shit and talking about Tupac couldn't rap,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it was like, Okay,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: who's saying this, right? Yeah, No, that's fair. You know,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: that was my whole thing. Like, so like making up
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: getting your media from like five people true Big Perk
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: shout to Park shout out.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Like sounds like he sounds like bun.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Be and PIMC when he says when he says players.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: That sounds like U GK, Brog, Big Park V up
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: there rapping.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: They ever did they ever try to like hit you
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: to try to do something similar?
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like, uh like I feel like audition Yeah,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I just never auditioned. I did the T and T thing.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: That was cool, but it was uh, it was just
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: what about a podcast? Would you do a podcast? Yeah?
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like I should do it.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: You should, man, there's lots of money out there, and
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: there's some shitty, shitty basketball players doing podcasts getting money.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, there's some real role players out here,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's some real people that
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be talking out here or shouldn't be talking about
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: certain ship you know what I mean.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: You mentioned something earlier that like doing music writing, being
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: a creative now helps kind of you keep your mind
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: off of maybe some of the what ifs of your
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: NBA career. You were somebody whose career was filled with
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of what ifs because you had a lot
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: of injuries.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Give me, like, how hard?
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Because I don't think we hear the side of like
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: somebody like you who's an All Star, who I mean,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: at your peak, when you're healthy, can play with anybody
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: in the league. When you have one of those careers
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: where there's a lot of injuries, how much does that
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: weigh on you mentally when you start like thinking too
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: much about like damn, if I'd have been healthy or
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: what if?
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: For what could it? Would have? Should have? Like is
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: that a hard thing to kind of a deterioration of
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the mind, right when you think about if I would have,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: should have, could have? And you can't do nothing else
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: about it, you know what I mean. It's like I
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: can't turn it around, you know, after I retire and
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: be like, all right, I'm gonna go ahead and do
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: all this shit, right, you know what I mean? It
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: was just you have to accept life and what you
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: thought your NBA career was gonna be, I supposed to
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: what it actually is. And then you gotta learn to
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: appreciate like there were better players than you that had
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: shorter NBA careers, you know what I mean? There are
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: sorrier players that have had illustrious careers. You know what
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I mean. You made it food like who is cut
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: like you? Who came from what you came from, you
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? And then you should respect everybody
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: who's played in this league from here to here, so
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: everybody gets to respect and appreciation. And I think for me,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: it was like all right, now I can lead that
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: shit right there, I'm done. I want to leave it there,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: and like I can't talk about like I can talk
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: about it all day. If I would have should, I
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: can talk about it. But if I start living in
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: that erg my mind be I'm be thinking about that
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: all the time. So me, I can never really be present,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: right and I can never really be half pride or
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the confidence, you know what I mean That I need
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: to be present because I'm always thinking about some shit
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: went wrong. I fucked up. I should have did this,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: or I should have did that, or what if I
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: wouldn't got hurt, or if I wouldn't have got hurt. Yeah,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: but like yeah, if I wouldn't have got hurt, like
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: it had been cracking, but I got hurt, And a
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: part of like me being hurt was like I always
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: played hurt, So it was never help your career. My
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: whole career, I was never healthy, you know what I mean.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: It was like not one year, maybe one year or
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: two that I kind of came into the season like
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I feel good, Yeah, you know what I mean. Like
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: other than that, it was always like I came in
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: college with a just came off aca my fresh My
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: first year in the league, I had torn carllage in
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: my knee. I never got surgery. Second year in the league,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: still had that torn carlage, had a little minor surgery
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: in the off season, played, came back played the second year.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Third year, that's when my back start hurt, you know
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: what I mean.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Like it was just just always we're dealing with it,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: but it was like I couldn't.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: It's like you be hurt. But then it's like dog
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: and mine just starting like you can't be out there.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: You start feeling bad. You want to work harder, You
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: can't work as hard as you want to get to
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: overthink yourself into a place. Yeah, hell yeah, it's not
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: It's not easy, you know what I mean. It's not easy,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Like you know, waking up every day and like you know,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: thinking about can I do this again, you know what
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like Doe, they love me, you know what
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: It's like, well.
• 46:46
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• 46:46
  Speaker 2: The one thing about you, Baron was I feel like
• 46:48
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• 46:52
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• 46:56
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  Speaker 1: back to the interview. Because it was kind of like
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: my locker was next to Jeremy Lynn's. Oh so it
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: was cracking after those games next to the locker. It
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: was No, it wasn't cracking. It was like, my locker
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: is here, Jeremy Jeremy Lynn locker is here, and there's
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty media in the locker. I mean,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: not cracking. You have to leave. You have to get
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: hey man, hold on, let me get my shit and
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: let me go change in the in the regular bathroom,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: in the bathroom stall. Heyde Jeremy Lynn had the whole
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: team changing in the fucking shower wherever we could. You
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: couldn't be in that locker room. They have to move
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: him from the locker room, and every interview he had
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: was a press conference. Crazy. It was like one hundred
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: and fifty people every time he had to get interviewed.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: He couldn't do it in the locker room because it'd
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: be too many people in the locker locker room. You
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: couldn't change, you couldn't stretch, you couldn't do shit. So
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: they have to like take him to another sport. D'Antoni
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: coaching that team. D'Antoni was, Yeah, it's crazy because I
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: think like me and D'Antoni used to call Jeremy Lynn
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: angels in the outfield. I tell because I told that
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: because I was Jeremy Lynn was there to like help
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: me get back to planning. So I needed another week.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: And so that's how he wind up staying that week,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: playing against brook the Brooklyn Nets, and then going on
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: his run. That's how he got his other ten day.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Because I wasn't ready. My back was still fucked up,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: and if you would have been healthy, we might not
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: ever would have never seen Jeremy Lynn. Crazy.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: There was like this thing because Mello was injured at
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: the time, right, and went on that run.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I told Mellow. Mellow was carrying the team
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Mellow was carrying the team and he was like, you know,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: we were struggling. We was like losing by six, losing
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: by four, and it was all due to we didn't
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: have a point guard that went downhill because Mike Mike
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Bibby was on the team. Right was on the team,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: but Mike Bibby was Mike Bibby was towards the end
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: of his career. Tony Douglass was a point guard, but
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: not really a point guard. Aman Shumper was a rookie
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: who was a shooting guard, not a point guard, play
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: on that team. Yeah, so like j R. Smith on
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: that second time, j R. Smith a rookie. Yeah, he
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: was my rookie year, but like his rookie year was
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: uh the I feel like that was the year I
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: got traded to go to State. Yep. I think it
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: was yep. So you played with him for like a
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: half a year. Yeah, but he's you know, Swiss used
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: to live with me. Yeah, like he lived with his
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: parents in New Orleans, but like you know, when he
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: wanted to go out and hang out, like I'm spending
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: night at bad house, We're gonna go to practice. So
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Swiss is like my little brother for life.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: I didn't say the mellow Jeremy Lynn thing. I remember
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: the national narrative was like, uh, you know, how's mellow
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: gonna play with Jeremy Lynn when he comes back from
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: being healthy. Was there like any sort of like ever
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: any tension in the locker room between that with that
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: whole situation.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Uh, there was some weird shit going on because obviously
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: like we're riding the wave super wave and thelysanity wave
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: is a mellow out. Remember he was injured when he
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: when he went on that run. Yeah, yeah, he going
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: to run. We went like five six in a row.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Mellow come back. But when Mellow come back, Jeremy Lynn
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: is the biggest star in the world. Fucking fuck New
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: York in the world. Fuck New York the world, bro
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: sure the world. He is the He has literally went
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: from like nobody to the base of the NBA for sure.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: And you gotta remember, also, I feel like we are
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: just transitioning out of the whole lockout, remember the lockout squeeze.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: So we about a year and a half or maybe
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: two and a half years in so it's like the
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: league is still needing a thing to happen. Man, when
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: that thing happened. It was like Mellow came back and
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Jeremy Lynn was so big. He was bigger than Mellow
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: media wise, and so it did create a little like
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: this ship is not like we can't we can't live
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: in sustainable or not. Yeah, Bro, we can't live in this,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: but like we should be living in it. But I
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: think like it started to create like tension in the
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: in in the way we played, you know what I mean,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: because it's still Mellow team. It's Mellow is still the dog, Mello,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Mellow is still our goal
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: the team. Omari was on the team. Amari was injured
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: and coming back. But remember it was Amari's team first
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: first year had a rocking. When he had that first
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: year with the next we had it rocking, he had
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: it rock mother injury another I mean yeah, think about that,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: like like now, imagine Amaro Stottamayer, what if? Why Why
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: would I sit here and be questioning myself crazy? You
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: got people like you know, Amari Stot, Yeah, Brandon Roy,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Grant Hill would have been probably been the top ten
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: player ever, Sewan Livingston.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Like Bro, we ain't even get to see the real
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Sean Living. I mean we saw it. We saw him
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: a great career. I saw him have an incredible career,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: but you didn't see what could have been. You know
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: what I mean? But you can't live on that ship?
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Was Mike D'Antoni Because I'm a Suns fan, so obviously
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: I have a place in my heart for him. How
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: was he like to play with Was he.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Doing the seven seconds or least ship with you guys?
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Mike D'Antoni was as a coach? Was cool? Yeah? No defense?
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Did God give a shit about defense? Is one talking
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: about no defense? He wasn't talking about it talking about it?
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I ain't talking about no defense just seven seconds or
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: les offense. No, it wasn't so much seven of seconds.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: It was just more so like he needed his point
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: guard to go north south. Yep. And as talented as
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: you were being able to go north south, his point
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: guard was the most integral part of the of the
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: offense because anytime point guard goes downhill, the whole lane,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: the whole defense. Yeah, because you got shooter, you got
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: shooters surrounding.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then if the big man is setting a pit,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: you really playing two on two basketball. If they stay
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: at home. So like, that's why Steve Nash was so good.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: You know, Chris Duhan had thirty one assists the Knicks.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Duhan was a fucking I remember Havings and his system
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: man and d'antoni's system. If you're point guard and you
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: go north, That's why Jeremy Land was so successful because
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: at the time he could penetrate that pain man. He
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: just put his head down, drive right and go and
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: he's not bad. He can make players at the rim,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: he can finish. He's a big your guard, you know
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: what I mean. But if you go downhill, even if
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: you get in trouble, somebody's open facts and so like
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: that's kind of like the D'Antoni system. That's why I
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: went to the Knicks, you know at the end of
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: the day, because I was like, damn if I can
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: get right, right, I can, I can Steve nast this ship,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, hell yeah, but it's
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: just like I fuck my shit up. I came in
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: and the Knicks not thinking I'll be able to walk again.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Was Isaiah Thomas the GM at the time, it was
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Glenn Gronwall.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, shout out to Isaiah Thomas. Very scared that he's
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: going to take over the Sun's GM position.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: We'll see, Oh, that'll be dope. I don't know would
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: it be.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: We'll see that's real tight with Matt Ishbiel, So yeah,
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: that'll be dope.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I will see. I'm just liking. I'm like, I think
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: James Jones is there now. Yeah, James is great. Yeah, James,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: James Jones is cool.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, give me quick, your favorite teammate you've ever played
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: with and the best teammate skill wise you've ever played with.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Your favorite and the best are two separate things.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Person Yeah, I would have to say probably, Like, damn, dude,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I got so many favorites. I hate doing that ship.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Just give me, give me the first one that comes
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: to mind without you know.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Or give me a couple of mantel is. Elden Campbell.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Eldon Campbell the o G big Homie. Eldon Campbell is
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: the original and I need people to know this. He
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: is the original big homie. There's nobody in the league
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: that was calling they centered big homie outside of us.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Eldon Campbell took the whole big home. Yeah, me and him.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Dereck Coleman, Hell yeah, dude, we had some crazy people.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Hey dude, we had Derek Comen used to bomb on me.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Wow, hey man on the Nicks.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: The nicest, scariest you know what I mean? Big, I
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: mean you could ever have. He's a very underrated power forward.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: He's super underrated. Yeah. Yeah, Brown was on that squad.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Elvin Kimbell was the first big homie, So you know
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: my big homie. That's fun. Yeah, okay, what about the
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: best the best teammate I've probably ever played with. That's tough. Yeah,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: so I mean I played with Mellow with the Knicks,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: so I saw I wasn't like where I was, but
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: he was doing some crazy ship Jamal Mashburn. You got
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: to put him up there cold, You gotta put him
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: up there. What about turing the Clippers run? Who was
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: there's nobody Blake came but he was young, but nobody
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah not not like well, when when Blake got drafted,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: he didn't play the first year. Yeah, he got hurt
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: the first year and then he came back his rookie year.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: It was really his second year, his second year, but
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: he got hurt his rookie year. I feel like I
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: think he did too. Yeah, I feel like he got
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: hurt the rookie year too. What was on your Clippers team,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: because I remember DeAndre were my rookies. Eric Blesso was
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: my rookie. Eric Gordon was my rookie. Jesus, that's a lot.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Those are some guys. Yeah, those were my rookies. Who
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: else was on the team. I can't remember. Craig Smith,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Ryan out from here? Uh Eric go, Yeah, those are
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: my rookies. Ryan Gomes was on that team. I believe
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Eric Gordon. We we you know, we had we had
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: a cracking like when we when we had the black
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Ship and DeAndre er was your rookie too, was of
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: a Suns fan.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: The Dark Ages is when the only jersey I could
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: go buy at our team shops.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Was Eric Eric Closets and the other point guard from
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Kentucky what was his name? He was really nice?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Uh you about Tyler Tyler h Ednis, Tyler Short.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: I like that kid. All right.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Last question, hardest player to defend that you had to
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: play against.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Hardest player to defend? Yeah, oh man, okay, let me
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: tell you this unfair. I am a point guard six
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: three maybe two fifteen two eighteen at the guard Michael
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Jordan or on the Wizards the Wizards, but which was
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: still a the fifty point game. Wait, you were guarding
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Jordan when he didn't score them all. He scored like
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: eight ten on me. Wow. So for people who don't
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: know that, people, fucking that's up. I'm gonna tell you
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: this is where I think there's a Michael Jordan like
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Maketrix you can fall into because you watching him and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: he's scoring, and he's making this shit look easy and
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: he's entertaining, and you, as the offense and the defense,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: you just fall asleep like admiring fall silence Jordan Hayes
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: where you're just like, let's call it the timeout. Lee
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Naylor was guarding him in the beginning. Paul Silas called
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: the time out. Man, what the fuck y'all doing? And
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: everybody's sitting there like, you know, like, damn, dude, is
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Jordan got sixty points? Like man, y'all just watching this dude?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Like we were literally like you're watching him like.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: Like damn, like go ahead, like you're not gonna help?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Do U? G do you?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Bro?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Was ill? It was ill because you know then it
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: was like all right, fuck it, I got him and
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: he hit me with the fane and it's like, damn,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: I ain't getting no help. I'm looking around everybody looking
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: at me, like John, that was some good defense. Well,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: I think people trying to like as a good defense.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Jordan wasn't cold on the Wizards. He was cold. I
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: watched all gave us a fifty piece show, went to
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: the All Star Game, almost took him to the playoffs.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: We had beat them in Charlotte. I think I had thirty,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Mass had twenty something, you know what I mean, And
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: so the whole you know, Jordan gotta get his bounce back.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Shit like that fifty points. That was the bounce That's
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: what this shit. Yeah, man, he came out and here
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: like sixteen in the first quarter. I seen, I was
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: watching it. I was there. This is all this like,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, he just got sixteen, Okay, shit, Damn
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: he got twenty four at halftime. Damn he got foty
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: in the third quarter. And you're just admiring it. No,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: by the time halftime come around, you're like, hey man,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: we can't let this move. Fucker get this guy.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: He's a lot older than this guy's like like, bro,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: you're doing everything.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: It's over. You're doing everything to stop him now it's ober.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: He heard him rip Hamilton Jaheedi White.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: It's like the most random like assortment of players on
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: the Wizards.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Man. It was like it's like he coming out of
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: the game and it's like almost like you know, people
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: just getting their flow getting shot and shit. Actually not like, man,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: this motherfucker got twenty four, Like and you playing hard,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, But it's still like the
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: intensity of the game ain't picked up yet. Wow. And
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: by the time you your intensity level pick up, like.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: He laughing at you at that point, What about the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: most underrated guy that you played against, Because there's a
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: lot of players who don't get.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Brandon Roy, Nick van Axell, Jason Terry uh uh, Damon Stottlemeyer,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Michael Redd, Michael Red.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: When he was on the Bucks, Darren Williams Yes shot
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: out to d will Jared Jack, assistant coach for the Suns. Well,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he is anymore, because you know.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I just think that dude was highly underrated. I think
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: he's going to Detroit. I think Tony Parker, I mean,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. But like you don't talk, we don't
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: talk enough. We talked more about Chris Paul than we
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: do Tony Parker and Parker got the rings. To me,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Parker top five point guard all time. Wow. I mean
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: if you look at it, you know where he sit.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: You got him above CP all time, have to you
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: got four titles. That's fair. I mean you know what
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: I mean. Like if you if you're putting it like,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: you know, you got stock Thing, you got Magic, you
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: got Isaiah, you got Steph stephte Steph is, Yeah, you
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: got Steph.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: I think you got Tony Parker. I put c P
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: in the in that five spot. I think I just
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: think Parker was blessed to play in that Spurs system.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I think if you put Chris if you can't say that,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't have won. If you put Chris on the Spurs,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't one. You don't think so, m M Nope,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: because Chris Paul play a different style. Like people, people
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: don't appreciate Tony Parker.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: I agree that as a fan who had ripped out,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: you hate him, you hate him, had ripped out by
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: the But I.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Would say he's probably the most underrated person that people
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: don't talk about. Yeah. I even think somehow Tim Duncan
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: is like, don't Yeah for sure. I just hate watched him. Yeah,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: like you people, no emotion when he scored. I'm like, dude,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: can you can you get it together?
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: He's just nonchalantly cooking us, sending us home every fucking playoffs.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Anyway, well, look, anything going on?
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Can you kind of give us a quick idea on
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: what's going on the music side here?
• 1:06:33
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• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: I've been working with some dope Uh producers, Mike and
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  Speaker 1: Keys shout out big shout out to Mike and Keys
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  Speaker 1: apaying the album. I got my young producers and the
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  Speaker 1: Sean and Ai with me. Uh got some stuff from
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  Speaker 1: no Id. Shout to no Idea. He's a legend, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean? And Uh I got a song
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  Speaker 1: with g Perico, Dom Kennedy, j Stone just keeping it.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Glasses, Damar Glasses is a legend. That's my dog.
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  Speaker 1: He was around Black Wall Street days, early Black Wall
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  Speaker 1: Street days. So I got a joint with mister fave
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  Speaker 1: Big Rich from the Bay Big Riches. He's man. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I brought Big Rich out of retirement. He's like man,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna bring me out of retirement. So I just,
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  Speaker 1: uh ship like that. Man. I got a cool little
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  Speaker 1: album that's out right now, my brother the Big Scott
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  Speaker 1: and Slim Cutters La to La, and then I got
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  Speaker 1: my little Bartomill get a ball one that's on iTunes,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'm on shout out to Jay Worthy Rock Marciano.
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  Speaker 1: I'm on that project. I got two joints on that project.
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  Speaker 1: Jay Worthy shit though, yeah, hell yeah, he was like
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  Speaker 1: top three on the hip hop so much amazing. Just
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  Speaker 1: getting the ship off albums for sure. Yeah, getting the
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  Speaker 1: ship off. We got a tape coming together. Oh ship,
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  Speaker 1: we got a tape coming together. Uh who else? I
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  Speaker 1: gotta working on a tape with somebody else. We just
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  Speaker 1: said it was going to do a tape together. I know,
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  Speaker 1: me and g Perico got a tape coming out. Yeah
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  Speaker 1: we got we got some folks songs like that, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking to drop mine probably in the June.
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  Speaker 2: Did game ever try to like sign you to Black
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  Speaker 2: Wall Street back in the day, because everybody was on
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  Speaker 2: Black Wall Street.
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of like the executive, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: was kind of like the executive of black was on there.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody sat out the Jews. Uh Malone was Malone on
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  Speaker 1: what was his name? Life Life?
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  Speaker 2: That life was there, Black Wall Street was peaceful Ben Yeah, yeah, it.
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  Speaker 1: Was Illis Yeah man ship the blast was. He was
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  Speaker 1: also on Death Roast was on Death ro and Black
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  Speaker 1: Walls Street. That's so wild, man. I appreciate your time. Man,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. Bro. I definitely I need to come to
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  Speaker 1: your spot. You gotta come through. Game three were cracking.
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  Speaker 1: We got to watch party Denver, Miami. So we got
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  Speaker 1: a Jimmy Butler gifting sweet for Game three and four.
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  Speaker 3: Really, why not a Jokic gifting sweep because you know
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  Speaker 3: a huge when they pay, when they pay for the studio,
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  Speaker 3: we have a Joker's sweet.
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  Speaker 1: I hate watch Jokic. You're crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I hate, I hate, I hate watching him. It's over no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: Like he's so good. He's so good that like I
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  Speaker 2: so I love I love to watch him. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: it's like it's almost like I'm it's like.
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  Speaker 1: A hate watch. You like hating. Yeah, No, I can't
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  Speaker 1: hate on Jokic. I just can't do it.
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  Speaker 3: It's like you hate the fact that he's so good
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  Speaker 3: and he's shaped like me, and he's just like.
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  Speaker 1: So gifted.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like this giant round mound of caucassidy is
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  Speaker 2: just out here cooking everybody for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing he's got scraped up. He's bleeding out of both
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  Speaker 1: arms like bruising and ship. What the fuck? Hey, dude,
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  Speaker 1: he I'm so glad that they are on the national stage.
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  Speaker 1: Me too, because remember he is the back to back
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  Speaker 1: the MVP of the league, could easily be three times
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  Speaker 1: three times m v P. And I'm so glad he's
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  Speaker 1: on this stage now everybody. Now, everybody can shut up.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's talking on Twitter. I'm like, you guys don't even know.
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  Speaker 1: You never you've never basketball. Yeah, you just see it.
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  Speaker 1: You see and reels and ship and you see stats
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  Speaker 1: and think like, oh, it ain't real. No, this dude
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  Speaker 1: is like he is. He is all time with his ship,
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  Speaker 1: all time. He has transcended with his ship, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's just shout out to him. Man,
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  Speaker 1: you know, shout out to Jimmy Buck too, because Jimmy
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Butler is another one that I say is underrated. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like you don't know, you
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  Speaker 1: don't like. It's not like, oh, there's like a style,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like Jimmy Butler coming to
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  Speaker 2: Out the mund I know I keep saying last thing,
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  Speaker 2: but promise you this is the last thing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a Sons fan.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to get your quick take on the Sons,
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  Speaker 2: Katie Booker and our Frank Vogel coaching higher.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think? Man? Good? Higher? Bad? Higher? I
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  Speaker 2: I'm always stay all over as as assistant. Kept Kevin
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  Speaker 1: That don't mean shit.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think listen, do you think we have a
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  Speaker 1: No? No, all right, well that's how we're gonna end
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  Speaker 1: I think that they have the talent. They're gonna trade
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  Speaker 1: Ayton and then Chris Paul is gonna go somewhere else.
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