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You Can't Force The Drama · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. It's Ashley
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  Speaker 2: and Ben here breaking down episode two of Jen's season.
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  Speaker 2: Hello Benjamin, Welcome back.
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  Speaker 3: Ashley. I cannot believe we're doing this together again.
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  Speaker 2: I can't either. Today's definitely the last day. I've been
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  Speaker 2: manifesting July fifteenth as the day, and I still think
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  Speaker 2: it's today.
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  Speaker 3: So an absolute wild time. Well, Ashley, we are here
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  Speaker 3: to talk about the Bachelor ed Bachelor. There is a
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  Speaker 3: lot to talk about. This is kind of the episode
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  Speaker 3: that things pick up a bit obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Also, congratulations to the show did really well. Week one
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  Speaker 2: did much better than our expectations ratings wise. So just
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  Speaker 2: because I didn't feel like it was about a lot,
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  Speaker 2: like I think that Jen's totally likable bachelorette, just didn't
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  Speaker 2: think that people were like ready for it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think the show is in a really good place.
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  Speaker 3: If they don't ruin it and so like this season,
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  Speaker 3: if they knock it out of the park, if they
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  Speaker 3: don't try to manipulate too much, if they don't make
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  Speaker 3: it super corny, if they don't make it unbelievable, then
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  Speaker 3: I do think the show is in a really good place,
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  Speaker 3: and I do think people are excited about the Bachelor
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  Speaker 3: and Bachelorette again and the Golden Bachelor and Bachelor. Yeah, Ashley,
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  Speaker 3: I did think this show, this episode's specifically walked a
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  Speaker 3: fine line between me not believing it and believing it.
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  Speaker 3: It did, at the end become believable to me. It
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  Speaker 3: felt there.
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  Speaker 2: Was something missing from this episode for these guys to
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  Speaker 2: be so riled up about.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt like there was something missing. I also
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  Speaker 3: really didn't like the intro with like them going to Australa.
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  Speaker 3: It felt like all these like thirty year old dudes
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  Speaker 3: were acting like ten year old children, like screaming, running around,
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  Speaker 3: jumping on the beds with each other, like jumping on
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  Speaker 3: the couch. It just was like it felt forced to me.
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  Speaker 2: There's some drama queens though in this bunch that I
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  Speaker 2: feel like they would just act up for camera.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh the camera's on.
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  Speaker 2: There's corny, Yeah, and they're all.
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  Speaker 3: Trying really hard to be funny, but like, not any
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  Speaker 3: of them. There's not one yet that I'm like, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: they're like just like quick witted. There's not one yet.
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  Speaker 3: Gin Actually, yeah, those guys yet none of them stand
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  Speaker 3: out to me as being like, like somebody would make
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  Speaker 3: you belly laugh.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm assuming that you didn't find anybody's stand up
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  Speaker 2: performance during the group date good. It was Actually we
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  Speaker 2: didn't see anything besides the Devin bashing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah it felt weird. Let's start there. And so we're
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  Speaker 3: obviously finding ourselves in Australia. Jin and the men are
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  Speaker 3: starting out. Theydn't even stay in the mansion, which there
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  Speaker 3: was no mansion this year. They're in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: About that, okay, I think that Marshall, who owns the mansion,
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  Speaker 2: was like, guys, love you, but I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: leave for Golden Bachelorette, Bachelorette and Bachelor, so pick your two.
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  Speaker 3: I still just believe money speaks, like I'm I think
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  Speaker 3: he would leave for a price. Yeah, I guess to
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  Speaker 3: have another house somewhere. I mean, the guy's been making
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  Speaker 3: millions on this show. I think maybe. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: not a bad theory. I'm just saying I would be
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  Speaker 3: shocked if he doesn't have a price, and maybe the
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  Speaker 3: price is too high for one night of filming, and.
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  Speaker 2: Well, definitely one night. He's not going to do it.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, they're not going to do it.
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  Speaker 2: That's too much work for one night to turn over.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good point too. Well, they're not in the mansion.
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  Speaker 3: They are in Australia. They're staying at a Marriot. We
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  Speaker 3: got to see that nice little ad. I love Marriott.
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  Speaker 3: It's big Marrit man, and the guys do their little intro,
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  Speaker 3: which I've already said did not make me like him
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  Speaker 3: any less or more. It just felt like I could
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  Speaker 3: fast forward through that and not see any of these
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  Speaker 3: dudes doing what they were doing. Jen is looking beautiful
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  Speaker 3: as usual.
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  Speaker 2: So beautiful, like look amazing, this entire episode amazing.
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  Speaker 3: And we start with a group date where these guys
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  Speaker 3: are tasting different things. I do think there was something
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  Speaker 3: at the very beginning of this group date that I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to speak with you about. It. It is I
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  Speaker 3: think his name is sam In. He's the one that
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  Speaker 3: is the love virgin.
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  Speaker 2: He is lactose intolerant.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, lactose intolerant, a little quiet and to himself, and
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  Speaker 3: I think they tried to make it a storyline, like
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  Speaker 3: it felt like it was going to become a thing,
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  Speaker 3: and I couldn't help thinking the whole time that he
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  Speaker 3: was admitting that he just feels a little uncomfortable, a
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  Speaker 3: little out of his element, that that's very normal, that's
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  Speaker 3: very okay. This is the first week. You should feel
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  Speaker 3: a little out of your element. You are trying to
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  Speaker 3: figure out how to date this girl or for her
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  Speaker 3: to even try to get to know you in the
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  Speaker 3: midst of some chaos. But it almost felt like they
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  Speaker 3: were trying to make it where the other guys were
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  Speaker 3: gonna get upset with him about it.
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  Speaker 2: I felt, oh, really, I didn't vibe that, But I
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  Speaker 2: like him.
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  Speaker 3: I like him so far because you were.
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  Speaker 2: Like, Okay, I kind of see what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Because the guy was like, oh, you're not eating that
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  Speaker 2: because you're lactose and tolerant, almost like they wanted him
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  Speaker 2: to be like, Oh, it's okay, a big tough guy,
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  Speaker 2: I'll just eat whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Just get a stomach ache for you. Yeah, let me
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  Speaker 3: get a stomach ache for you. Not a not a
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  Speaker 3: massive deal. But that kind of came and went, and
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  Speaker 3: then we had the comedy show where all these guys
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  Speaker 3: kind of out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 2: Well, first, Devin pulls her aside to get gelato on
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  Speaker 2: their own, yeah, which gives them the material to hate
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  Speaker 2: him and.
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  Speaker 3: It was so crazy, Ashley, And maybe things are just
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  Speaker 3: different now, but this happens. It happens every season. It's
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  Speaker 3: not unexpected, and yes, you're not gonna like everything that
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  Speaker 3: every other guy does. But my I remember being on
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  Speaker 3: the back and thinking to myself, I'm gonna let these
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  Speaker 3: other guys sabotage each other, like I am not the
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  Speaker 3: one that's gonna step in the middle of this. If
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  Speaker 3: this dude wants to go spend time with her and
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  Speaker 3: she really is into it, then that's great for them.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they're gonna end up together good. That's what we
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  Speaker 3: hope happens here. Maybe she realizes that this dude is
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  Speaker 3: a little annoying, and maybe the other guys dislike it
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  Speaker 3: too and they step it up. But it felt like
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  Speaker 3: all these guys kind of packed together and got mad together,
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  Speaker 3: which was very odd to me. You didn't just have
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  Speaker 3: one guy going at him, you had multiple.
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  Speaker 2: Devin is not the most likable guy, Like, we get it.
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  Speaker 2: He's brash, bet and I he could even tell from
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  Speaker 2: his bio he likes to eat things he's allergic to.
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  Speaker 2: He's he's something okay, But what he did here was
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  Speaker 2: not outrageous.
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  Speaker 3: At all.
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  Speaker 2: He pulled her aside for a few minutes to get
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  Speaker 2: ice cream, and he didn't even kiss her. And pulling
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  Speaker 2: someone aside on a group date to get a few
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  Speaker 2: minutes alone not weird, not even rude. Okay, why would
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  Speaker 2: you want to spend your entire time on the group
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  Speaker 2: date with the other guys? Who have these guys never
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  Speaker 2: seen the show before. They were all just very jealous
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  Speaker 2: that they didn't come up with an idea to pull
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  Speaker 2: her aside themselves.
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  Speaker 3: They're using the word disrespectful. They kind of kept called
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  Speaker 3: Devin disrespectful at multiple different times during this episode. Now, Devin,
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  Speaker 3: I'm assuming, is not everybody's cup of tea. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think everybody likes him, But I don't know anything he
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  Speaker 3: did that was disrespectful. I don't think I saw anything
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  Speaker 3: that was like out of the ordinary from any other
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  Speaker 3: season or any other person trying to get as much
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  Speaker 3: time as possible. Now, again, I go back to typically,
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  Speaker 3: if you're in a group setting, especially early on, the
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  Speaker 3: guy that is going to do those type of things,
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  Speaker 3: take her aside, pull her away, step into your conversations
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  Speaker 3: is not the guy that's gonna be there at the end.
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  Speaker 3: Because there's usually like he is the one that is
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  Speaker 3: going to sabotage himself at some point with her, He's
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  Speaker 3: going to become too annoying or too brass or too
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  Speaker 3: just in her face, and she's gonna be like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: not for me, man, like take a chill pill, Like
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  Speaker 3: we're going. If you're gonna be my partner, you have
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  Speaker 3: to understand the environment that I'm in and that this
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  Speaker 3: is really hard. And the more time you pull me
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  Speaker 3: away means the less time I got to spend trying
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  Speaker 3: to figure this whole thing out, like be my partner
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  Speaker 3: here and not an annoyance. So I don't know why
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  Speaker 3: the guys get so upset, but they do, and they
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  Speaker 3: take it upon him at the comedy special.
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  Speaker 2: And Aaron, especially who's Noah's brother, has this weird issue
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  Speaker 2: with him. Do you not think that was weird the
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  Speaker 2: way that he felt towards him after this?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well it represented the Bennett Noah argument. If you
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  Speaker 3: remember back in the day when the two of them
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  Speaker 3: sat down, like especially when Aaron gave him the book.
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  Speaker 3: Bennett gave Noah a book, I think it was on
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  Speaker 3: to something, yeah, something like that, And so now it
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  Speaker 3: definitely was a little corny and cheesy from my perspective,
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  Speaker 3: because you could tell that the show was definitely involved
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  Speaker 3: and repeating that storyline or they're trying to repeat.
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  Speaker 2: This sarre But Ben, did you remember that on your own?
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  Speaker 3: I think it did, actually, because.
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  Speaker 2: That's a fine note. Yeah, and it's been like four years, so.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a historian of the show. Actually, Yeah, at this
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  Speaker 3: point we've done this long enough.
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  Speaker 2: Good job picking up on that. That is even cornier now.
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  Speaker 3: It was almost hard to watch because it was like, you,
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  Speaker 3: this is this is no longer walking in in my
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  Speaker 3: in like reality now. People ask you all the time
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  Speaker 3: it's a show real or not? I always say, yes,
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  Speaker 3: it is. It's very real. It just matters how you
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  Speaker 3: go about it. That moment, to me was a little
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  Speaker 3: too unrealistic, and it made me like kind of curl
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  Speaker 3: up an embarrassment, being like why am I watching this?
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  Speaker 3: Does have a massive issue with Devon. He takes it
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  Speaker 3: upon himself to make sure that he is angry.
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  Speaker 2: He keeps saying that he's not deep enough, that he's
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  Speaker 2: not like, he's not qualified enough gentleman to be with Jen,
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  Speaker 2: and to be honest, he really doesn't know him enough,
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  Speaker 2: and he does call him by a different name. He
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  Speaker 2: calls him Dylan, and I'm like, dude, multiple times.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a good look. I don't think anybody's gonna
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  Speaker 3: watch it and be like that's a good look. Now again.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if Devon's for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Believe me, Devon isn't for everyone. But Aaron's behavior towards
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  Speaker 2: him was even less for me, was far less for me.
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  Speaker 3: It's a weird thing, Ashley. Little side note here, as
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about a show where marriage or a proposal
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  Speaker 3: is inevitable or at least the desired hope from the outcome,
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  Speaker 3: you don't look at a partner and say, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if conflict arises or there's something going on in life
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  Speaker 3: where your partner is upset, you surely hope that they
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  Speaker 3: don't handle that situation like these guys are doing it
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  Speaker 3: right now on the show. You hope that somebody steps
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  Speaker 3: into the room and be like, here's the deal. You're upset.
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  Speaker 3: You don't like him, you know what? That's okay, Like,
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  Speaker 3: I can't convince you to like him. But what we
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  Speaker 3: can do is understand that the more drama and the
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  Speaker 3: more argument that we have in this room right now,
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  Speaker 3: and the more we spend time focusing on this, the
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  Speaker 3: less beneficial this is for Jen and for any of
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  Speaker 3: us in this room, including myself, who don't like who
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  Speaker 3: doesn't like you. So let's put this aside. Let's understand
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  Speaker 3: that I'm not happy with the decisions that you made,
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  Speaker 3: and just know that I'm going to stand by that,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't want it to interfere with this experience
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  Speaker 3: that would be a response. Instead, these dudes right now
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  Speaker 3: are being childish, childish towards each other, and they're representing
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  Speaker 3: themselves as childish, and I think it's very unattractive and
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  Speaker 3: it's it's very weird right now because we don't have
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  Speaker 3: that one person that's necessarily standing out. I think Marcus
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  Speaker 3: stands out. I do, but he's not. And maybe it's
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  Speaker 3: just because he isn't getting into the drama. But there's
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  Speaker 3: nobody just stepping up in the midst of this argument
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  Speaker 3: and being like can we stop? Like what are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: Like how long do we want this to go? For?
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  Speaker 2: Well, chemistry wise, I still feel her with Sam. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna Sean Booth look like Sam, but he but he
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  Speaker 2: is getting into the drama as well.
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  Speaker 3: He is, He's stepping a toe in the water. I
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  Speaker 3: still just have this feeling that he's going to get
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  Speaker 3: more involved in the drama than we even know right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too, especially next week's episode. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: the nighttime portion of the date, she is clicking with
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  Speaker 2: Grant the basketball player Slash Day investor trader. Mm hmm, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I like him. He's cute, I mean very cute.
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  Speaker 2: I get it, I get the get the deal.
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  Speaker 3: She she is definitely into the guys from the start
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  Speaker 3: that definitely kind of have the yeah, yeah, like just
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  Speaker 3: kind of you know, know, how to work a room
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  Speaker 3: and have a conversation and be kind of like romantic
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  Speaker 3: and like sensual. Like he just kind of that. She's
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  Speaker 3: into that. With the Sam and Grant, you can tell
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  Speaker 3: that she likes that kind of look and vibe.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the look. It's good look.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then she likes to be asked like those questions.
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  Speaker 2: I think where like we said last week, it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of like pick up artists like questions. But at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, yeah, it feels like it could be either
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  Speaker 2: pick up artist or it can be I'm just trying
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  Speaker 2: to get to know you. But it just feels a
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  Speaker 2: little pickup artist Tony.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a little forced maybe is kind of what I
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  Speaker 3: felt like. It felt really forced and it was you know,
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  Speaker 3: but I get it. It's good on this show to
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  Speaker 3: be intentional and to ask those questions as early as possible.
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  Speaker 3: I do think there is a way to go about it.
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  Speaker 3: That Grant just kind of dove in. Good for him,
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  Speaker 3: not no criticism there, but he did just dive in
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  Speaker 3: right away. He was like, Hey, I have two minutes
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  Speaker 3: to talk to you. What's your biggest fear, what's your
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  Speaker 3: biggest mistake? Tell me everything.
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  Speaker 2: Me feel awkward, like, I don't think I would respond
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  Speaker 2: in that way, like I want more of a playful
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  Speaker 2: back and forth conversation. But I also understand that that's
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  Speaker 2: the kind of questioning that she feels like appreciated by
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  Speaker 2: being asked.
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  Speaker 3: I think she does. I mean, it does. It always
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  Speaker 3: is nice to have somebody ask about you. And in
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  Speaker 3: this experience, at least when I was a bachelor, I
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  Speaker 3: don't I remember people being curious about me, but it
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  Speaker 3: was a lot of me being curious about them. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you're kind of the lead here in a lot of ways,
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  Speaker 3: and you're guiding conversations, and you're you're the one that
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  Speaker 3: feels like you're in charge of the conversation. I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: Jen feels that way very very often, and so it
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  Speaker 3: is nice to kind of be set back and be like, no,
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  Speaker 3: tell me about you. Who are you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just takes the pressure off for a minute.
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  Speaker 3: It does of having to be the one that's.
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  Speaker 2: Carrying the conversation anyway. And then Jonathan. She also likes Jonathan,
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  Speaker 2: and like I said, I thought Jonathan is pretty darn cute.
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  Speaker 2: I know, it's quite the surprise after coming in in
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  Speaker 2: a hospital gown and his face wrapped last week. He's
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't scream like final three to me, but top
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  Speaker 2: six ish. He's ranking up there so far.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think he has a legit shot at it.
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  Speaker 3: He and Marcus feel very similar to me in terms
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  Speaker 3: of how she feels about them. I do think there's
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  Speaker 3: some longevity.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like the second tier of feelings.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's longevity in it, right, So they're not
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  Speaker 3: the initial shock and awe, the hot and heavy, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but it does feel like it could be two that last.
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  Speaker 3: Because they're right there, we're not getting a lot of
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  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Marcus had a one on one, but
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  Speaker 3: we're not getting a ton from them yet. Even though
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  Speaker 3: Marcus had a one on one and he shared his
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  Speaker 3: incredible story and what he's done for this country, I
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  Speaker 3: don't feel like we he has the camera time as
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  Speaker 3: others because outside of the one on one, we don't
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: see a lot from him we see a lot of
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: the arguments, we don't see a lot from Marcus. I
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: do think that's a sign that long term he'll be around.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, so I was gonna say, you can flip
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: it and say that Marcus is the guy that she
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: would love to love, but may it may not be
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: there romantically.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Well off, d Wayne and see, they're definitely you know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: he'd be in my top four right now if we
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: did a top four, and we'll start here at the
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: end of the episode, but let's not even to the
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Marcus story right away. Then he does have a one
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: on one. They have a really cool day where they
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: get to jump out of a plane. So glad that
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: did not happen on my season.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Have you ever done that?
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Okay no, yeah, not not something that I'm asking to do.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: I thought the show had gotten away from it because.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Of the legality protocol.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're obviously, you know, if they go to Australia,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: maybe rules don't apply. But they do jump out of
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: a plane, and then at dinner they do connect at
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: a deeper level and Marcus does get to share his story.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I think, no matter what, it is a life story
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: that when you when he shares it with you, there's
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: a respect, there's an admiration, there's an appreciation. There's also
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: kind of a an understanding of who this guy is
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: after he shares it, Like you know, you know a
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: little bit more of what you're getting. You don't know
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: the whole picture, but you know he's loyal, he cares,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: he serves, and that he's tough as nails.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just like kind of the quintessential guy that
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: you're like, that's a stand up man that you want
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: to find and hopefully you have chemistry with them.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: He he just seems like what you just said, like
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: he's got a lot of heart and soul. He's going
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: to be a hard egg to crack. He did a
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: great job though he keeps talking about how he's not
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: like super vocal when it comes to emotions, but he
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: really opened up and you can tell that there's going
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: to be so much more to him even when when
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: he opens up further. And yeah, once you tell that
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: story about how you know, he was sent over to
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Afghanistan a number of times and on his last trip
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: over there, he got sent back was in the hospital
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: for like two months. You know that like once he
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: opens up about that, he's going to be more comfortable
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: opening up about pretty much everything else.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's one to watch for sure. It's a great
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: one on one date and then moves us into the
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: group date. The group date is a photo shoot with
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: animals from Australia. I think this is awesome.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I love this group date.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: This is great. It's super fun, it's easy. It's also it's.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: A great watch for us, Like, it's just fun for
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: us to watch. I agree, and Hikeim is just I
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: want him to be in my top four now because
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: he is hilarious. He has those crazy eyes and it
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: makes very expressive eyes. And the dude with the spider,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: like I knew that the spider was gonna come, and
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: the fact that of course he's like, just don't want
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: to be a spider, just don't wanted to be a spider.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Of course a spider. His reaction to it was just
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: so freaking funny. And I love him for this because
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: the spider would have been the one that I dread
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: the most. Put that big snake around my neck far
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: before have the spider crawl up my shoulder.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there are so many animals there. They were like
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: of course you can have a little like furry thing
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: on your hands, and then he gets a spider. It
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: was great television. I like that nobody took it negatively.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: That everybody's like, I get a man, that thing's creepy,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Like I feel you. I don't know if I hate
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: that much, but I know that there are things that
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: you could put on me, like a big snake around
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: my neck. That'd be like, no, not my deal, don't
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: want this to happen.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Oh but Dylan did.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: He stud just actualely rocked it. Great for him. He
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: really showed off, showed up there in that moment. But
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I'm glad nobody took it negatively from Khakim. I'm glad
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: they all laughed about it. Jen almost looked like she
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: was judging him a little bit based on his reaction,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: But once the snake came out, I think she was like,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I get it now, No, I'm good, Like we're on
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: the same page here.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: You thought that Jen was kind of judging Hikim's reaction, right.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. It almost looked like she was looking at
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: him like, come on, dude, step up.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Exactly, And I was thinking, oh my gosh, this girl
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: must really not have a fear of spiders, because to me,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I would have been one cracking up and being like,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: please don't do this for me, kakm, do not do
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: this for me? Is I don't want no idea?
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Well laughed about this later. You don't have to touch it,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: It's fine. But then the snake came out and she
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: had the same reaction, and so then I think there
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: was a leveled the playing field. She said, I get
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: it now, we're all good.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: You're either afraid of spiders or afraid of.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Snakes, unless you're that guy that was passing him out.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: He seemed afraid of nothing. The group date was great,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: it was a good watch, and the cocktail party got
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: a little discombobulated. It got a little bit funky. Right well,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: there was.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: No cocktail party because Dylan went straight to the date.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: It was the What I'm thinking of is when they
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: all went back.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: To the hotel.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: The hotel was where things got a little bit messy.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: It started to fire up a little bit. The one
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: only time was good, but the house was We were
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: starting to get a sense of what the next few
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: weeks of this season probably is going to look like.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: And this is where I really somebody could step up
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: who wasn't involved in the drama and could just say, hey, guys,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: can we stop this, Like, what are we doing here?
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: This is all stupid.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I didn't like it. Okay, So the guys apparently convene
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: in the car and they say that, like, you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming they had this conversation. We're gonna ask these guys,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: because we didn't have a group nighttime portion, we would
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: like to make clear that we would like to be
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: the priority at the cocktail party at the end of
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: the week. And that is the corniest thing ever that
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: makes me not like these guys. This is again protocol
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: on the show that you go and you know, like
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: sometimes group dates end up one on one day, it's
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: at the end of it, and then you go to
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: the cocktail party and you fight for yourself. You don't
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: have a group meeting about who's gonna have more time
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: or the first time at the cocktail party the next day.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: But anyway, that's what they decide to do. Go upstairs,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: present this idea to the other guys that are just
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: sitting there waiting, and I guess, like some guys not
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: in the grands, and Devin is like Devin's like, yeah,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I understand, yeah, yeah, yeah, We'll make sure that you
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: guys have priority. But he goes, but he does say,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't mean. First of line, it doesn't mean
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: that I'm going to like sit out. And then the
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: next day we get to that cocktail party and it
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: is drama because he takes her away.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: First two things here, One is these guys come back
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: thinking they're owed this time.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: That's what I mean. It's gross.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: It's always a weird thing on the show. Honestly, if
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: they have an issue with how this evening went for
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: them and that they didn't get time, you got to
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: take the up with Gin because Jin's the one that
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: decided to send you all home. She's the one that
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: stayed back with Dylan. She's the one that said the
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: rest of you goodbye, good riddance, go home, go you
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: do your thing. This is not the other guy's problem.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Don't make your problems my problems. We say it very
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: often here on the show. And it feels like these
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: guys are going to try to make their problem with
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: not getting time the other guy's problem, and they're all
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: going to get together and have this really nice moment
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: be like yeah, you know what, I'll support you because
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: why we're not friends yet, Like we don't know each
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: other really yet. I don't owe you anything here. And
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: at the same time, if you don't get your own time,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: like if you haven't found out how to do that,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: you're mad at Devin for pulling him away during a
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: group date, you could have done the same thing during
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: this photoshoot.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I know these guys from the first group date to
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: the second group date, they like want everything to do
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: like fair and balanced. Here it's like, well, this is
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: not this is a bachelorette. Well, I don't know what
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: kind of show you think you're on.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: It's just very weird because here's the truth. These guys
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: are legitimately upset. They're not actors. Nobody's paying them to
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: get upset. These guys are somehow finding a way to
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: get mad at Devon, And like I always say, the
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: producers could be in their heads being like, aren't you
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: so upset with Devin? How stupid is it that Devon's
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: doing this? And these guys are like, yeah, yeah, I'm
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: gonna go at him. But they're not forcing them to
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: say a word. You have a choice here to say
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: something or not say something. These guys are all choosing
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: to say something to choosing to let this rile them
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: up and ruin this experience. It could be really great
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: for them. At this point in time on the show,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: they have no reason to need to really stand out.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: They just got to make it another week. There's like
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: twenty dudes there. Let those dudes sabotage themselves. Let them
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: blow the whole thing up, and then you can come
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: in at the end and be like, hey, by the way, Jen,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: I'm still here.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: They really thought that they were going to walk into
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: the cocktail party and be like, Okay, your turn, you
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: turn your turn. You're turned weird awkwards with you so weird.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: So Dylan takes her or sorry, Devin takes her and yeah, yea,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: was he going to look was were they gonna hate
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: him for this? Yes, but he did say not necessarily
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: giving you guys first dibbs. And then he goes up
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: there talks to her, and then Thomas goes marching upstairs
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: in one of the most embarrassing moments I've seen so
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: early on in the show, and he's like you, pulls
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: him aside and says, we talked about this. You're being disrespectful.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: The fact that he didn't think that one pulling him
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: aside and spending wasting time on talking to Devin was
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: one gonna look bad, and two just having this confrontation
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: in front of Jen wasn't going to look bad. Like
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: what was going through his head that thought this was
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the right move.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: There's nothing that could have been going through his head
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: that thought this was the right move, because it wasn't.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: He wasn't thinking clearly.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: He was hyped on the drama, just like drinking it up.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: He got very obsessed with it and then just ran
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: up to it. And then you know, if you do
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: this behind the scenes, sometimes Jen doesn't even find out.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Lee never even knows he needed this right in front
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: of her, Like she's very very much now, Jen's very smart,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: she knows she goes. I know exactly who this guy is.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: He is he is the disruptor. He is the guy
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: that's going to tell me at some point that somebody's
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: not here for the right reasons, and it's because he
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: doesn't get along with everybody and he doesn't like somebody.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: So he's just pretty much telling me he doesn't like
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: this person. And then I'm gonna have to send him
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: home at some point. I'm going to two and one
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: with this guy. Send him home at some point because
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: that's going to be the ass. But it doesn't look
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: good for him from this point forward. It looks really.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Oddome, really hard to recover from this.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really hard to recover from this.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: It is okay any non Devin drama to talk about
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: during the cocktail party.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: There really isn't. It kind of takes up the whole
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: thing right until the very end, where obviously Devin still
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: gets a rose here another week now. I don't want
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: anybody listen to this and think I'm in team Devin exactly.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying I like the dude.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying I don't get it yet, Like
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know why this guy, out of anybody there
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: is the one that's upsetting some people so much. I
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: also want to know more about Aaron. I think Aaron's
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: story is not even close to being finished. I had
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: high expectations for Aaron because he has Noah's brother, and
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: he did come in probably with some insight into the show.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Yet he chooses to come onto the show fired up
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: from the beginning. I'm hoping that cools down a bit
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: because I want to like him, I want to root
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: for him, I want to get to know him. But
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: right now we're seeing none of that outside of his
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: arguments with Devin and even the kind of the awkwardness
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: with jen by kind of reintroducing himself, and she's like,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: I just saw you today, Like what do you think
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: we do here? Like you get five minutes with me
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: at these first couple of weeks, Like I know you
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: don't make me feel bad or make me question if
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: you're upset that you don't know me well enough for that.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I haven't spend enough time with you. I haven't spend
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: enough time with anybody yet.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: He makes me feel super uncomfortable. Well, watching human makes
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: me feel weird, well.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: One hundred percent, And the expectation is way too much
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: right now. Like if you're again, if you're going to
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: be a partner to Gin, one of the things you
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: look at as the lead at the beginning is who's
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: actually been a partner to me? Like, who is letting
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: me try to take a break, who is keeping it chill,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Who's maybe asking me some questions? So I'm not like
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: the only one conversing here to myself and just wonder,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: you know, like give her some space and show her
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: that you can be a good partner. And part of
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: being a partner is understanding where they're at in life.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: And right now Gin is in some chaos. She's trying
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: to figure out what all your names are. For goodness sake,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: give her a break on if you like she spent
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: enough time with you or who she spent more time with.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: She doesn't know anybody yet, Like, just let her chill
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: and then as this continues, we'll see the deeper relationships
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: for him.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, I'll give the guys a second of benefit
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: of the doubt, just because you know how last season
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I had I didn't have to. I wanted to and
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: new parts of the story in which we're missing with
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Sydney's storyline, and I had a lot of sympathy for
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: her because some things aren't, of course shown on TV.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: So I'm just thinking watching this episode, was there something
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: missing that Devin said? Devin did that riled these guys
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: up so hot?
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: We're not seeing any of that yet. Again, as I
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: said last season to you, actually we only know what
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: we know and what we see I know, so you know,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: we'll play those games of what about this and what
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: about that? But then that doesn't do anybody any good
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: because we don't know. We can make assumptions, we can guess,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: but we don't know. We know what we see, and
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: that's who we're here to talk to is the audience
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: that also is watching this alongside of us.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, the guys that were eliminated, and there was
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: absolutely no Shockers in that group.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: I just don't know anybody's name it this, so we
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: didn't know the names. Yeah, so like it does even work,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: you know? For me, it's like, okay, good give in
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: two weeks, I'll start knowing these guys' names. I don't
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: know all these guys names. Yeah, I know like four
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: of them. That's why the top four is kind of difficult.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: But we are going to do. Our top four is Ashley.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I'll start with my top four. I think a Keem
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: and Marcus are in the top four.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Are queen there?
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Heck? Yeah, who else would I put at four?
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: He's my top four?
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I'm going to do Grant and Sam.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I do think Sam is probably going to be in
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: the top four the least amount of time. For me,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: I just get this feeling that something's.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Going to background Sam as in sham Booth, Sam Sean
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: both meets Chase McNary.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Sure, great, and then Hakeem and Marcus.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so I will change a little bit. I
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: think top four is definitely Sam, definitely Grant and Dylan
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: and like that, and then probably Marcus.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah gotta be Marcus.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that Marcus is.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: The fourth fair that's okay right now?
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Oh and then yeah, okay, so Dylan, Marcus, Sam and
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: who else?
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I say, there's Grant, there's Jonathan, Grant, Grant.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I put Grant in there, and then Jonathan is my
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: top five. He's my like alternate's.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: He's on the bench right now. Yeah, but another good
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: episode from Jin. I absolutely love her is a bachelorette.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: I think she's fantastic. I think she's a catch. I
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: hope some of these dudes step up. I think there's
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: a few that definitely are. But she deserves a really
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  Speaker 3: great guy, and I'm hoping she finds it from this mix.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not confident she will yet. I just I at
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  Speaker 3: our kind of theory last week is maybe playing on
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  Speaker 3: my head more than ever that she might not end
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  Speaker 3: up with anybody, because I don't know if there's a
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  Speaker 3: guy here yet that she likes enough, that she likes
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  Speaker 3: enough well to see.
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  Speaker 2: Sam, she likes enough. But it's physical, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And that comes and goes. We all get old at
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  Speaker 3: some point, Ashley, I really am excited for the week
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  Speaker 3: ahead for you. I hope you're not here the next
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  Speaker 3: time we record, but you may be. And I'm only
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  Speaker 3: hoping you're not here because I'm hoping that you're a
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  Speaker 3: mother of two at that point and that you're yeah, wild,
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  Speaker 3: you kind of take a break. I can't believe some
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  Speaker 3: of the last freedom time in your life is being
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  Speaker 3: spent with me on this show. But that's just how
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