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Why Babyface is overrated + Diante Lee on Eagles Jalen Hurts problem', What’s Wrong With Drake Maye?, Brian Flores' future | 09.30 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to The Right Time, presented by PrizePix.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont E.
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  Speaker 2: Jones. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 1: to believe you are a hater. We got Deontay Lee,
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  Speaker 1: an oranger, coming up, talking about some football.
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  Speaker 2: But first, all right, Ryan.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, and hey, if I'm not giving you
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  Speaker 1: enough credit, you let me know. But I don't feel
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  Speaker 1: like you have passionate opinions about Babyface.
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  Speaker 3: You know what this is?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're breaking the triangle.
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  Speaker 3: No, this is when Kobe goes like this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, breaking the triangle.
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  Speaker 3: You're breaking the triangle.
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  Speaker 2: We're getting out of here. Okay, cool. Just wanted to
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  Speaker 2: let you know it's okay, all right?
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  Speaker 1: But I do want you to kind of stay on
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  Speaker 1: a little bit as I give you a story because
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  Speaker 1: it ties in to somewhat of a recurring theme of, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So the other day I got.
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  Speaker 1: Some email from this show on Complex and it's called
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  Speaker 1: Worst Takes.
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  Speaker 2: And they're like, come on and give your worst takes.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, I kind of spent a
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  Speaker 1: long time not doing a lot of these appearances, perhaps
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  Speaker 1: to my detriment in some ways.
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  Speaker 2: So let me try to get out here, do a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more. Right. And so I said, OK, cool.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't think it's hard for you
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  Speaker 1: to understand what the problem is that I would have
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  Speaker 1: with this, which is.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. think any of my takes are bad.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of the whole idea is like
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  Speaker 3: I think my opinions are good and I give them
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  Speaker 3: to you because that's how good they are.
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  Speaker 1: Right why would I give you why would I give
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  Speaker 1: you rotten stuff I don't understand this like I don't
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  Speaker 1: know who these people are I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Go to the grocery store here here's some bad apples
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  Speaker 3: yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah so like I'm trying to think about like stuff
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  Speaker 4: I thought in.
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  Speaker 1: The past that like you know wasn't that big a
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  Speaker 1: thing or whatever but okay I was wrong about Michael
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  Speaker 1: Beasley over Derrick Rose for example right you.
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  Speaker 4: Know like I was but I didn't I didn't feel
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  Speaker 4: like that would have.
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  Speaker 1: Anything so like I sit down and I talk to
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  Speaker 1: the brother that's doing the show and I don't remember why.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I remember why.
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  Speaker 1: It's because we had just, I think we had just
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  Speaker 1: taped the ATLians episode and my man Wally had brought
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  Speaker 1: up how I don't rock with babyface. And so I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to do my best to give my man a
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  Speaker 1: good show, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to do what I can to help him.
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  Speaker 2: And then I'm like, oh yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: I got this baby face take that like people don't like, okay?
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  Speaker 1: But the thing is, I've been offering this take in
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  Speaker 1: public for like 15, 20 years.
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  Speaker 2: This is nothing new, okay?
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  Speaker 1: So I used to say it on the internet all
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  Speaker 1: the time, but that was the old internet, okay? OK,
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  Speaker 1: that was the Internet where you saw what I said.
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  Speaker 1: If you followed me or perhaps somebody decided to share
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  Speaker 1: it and we could have a robust back and forth.
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  Speaker 2: But what's the big deal anyway?
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  Speaker 1: Right. I hadn't thought about like what would happen if
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  Speaker 1: I said it on the new Internet. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I say this all the time. What's the thing?
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  Speaker 2: Right. And so I said it also not considering. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Who are my least favorite people in the world?
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  Speaker 3: People who are passive aggressive.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that is correct. But as a profession.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, social media managers. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Somehow I hadn't done the math on the fact that
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  Speaker 1: this part was.
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  Speaker 2: Going to hit socials. Okay. And look, they're doing everything
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  Speaker 2: I always said.
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  Speaker 1: Now, of course, the difference is the point of this show.
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  Speaker 1: Is this sort of rage bait?
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  Speaker 2: So I can't blame them. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like this is literally what they were supposed to do.
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  Speaker 1: I just didn't really do the math on it. Next
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  Speaker 1: thing I know, I'm getting text messages about the fact
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  Speaker 1: text messages.
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  Speaker 2: All right. That this has happened.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody told me that what a boy to man was
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  Speaker 1: in my comments going off. Yeah, that was like the
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  Speaker 1: first thing I heard. It was like, tell me, tell
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  Speaker 1: me you don't really believe this. I'm like, hell yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I believe this. And what they were asking is, do
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  Speaker 1: I believe that Babyface, well, I say it, I believe
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  Speaker 1: that Babyface is a wildly overrated songwriter.
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  Speaker 2: That is my belief.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that this is one of those things, kind
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  Speaker 1: of like Jason Witten is a Hall of Famer, That
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  Speaker 1: if people keep saying it over and over and over again, it.
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  Speaker 2: Just becomes an axiom of truth that.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't like really get scrutinized by anybody in any way.
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  Speaker 1: And I just happen to disagree with this. And in fact,
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  Speaker 1: fairly fervently. Ryan, now this is where, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: can start Homer Simpson into the bushes because my people disagree.
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  Speaker 1: really came down on me very harshly.
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  Speaker 2: Even people I know.
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  Speaker 1: 9th Wonder said that my tape was a reflection that, quote,
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  Speaker 1: drugs are rampart, unquote.
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  Speaker 2: R-A-M-P-A-R-T.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, them drugs be in my house gallantly streaming. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you understand, he root for Duke. So, like, we only
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  Speaker 1: listen for so much to what's going on over there.
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  Speaker 1: I wound up in a trick bag in this because
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  Speaker 1: the boy Kev on stage made a video refuting what
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  Speaker 1: I said. And I can't get in no back and
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  Speaker 1: forth with the nicest man in the world.
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  Speaker 2: One of them church ladies go come up and tell.
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  Speaker 1: Me, your mama is a Jezebel or something like that, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like, I don't need that. Some dude popped up in my,
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  Speaker 2: because the weirdos.
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  Speaker 1: Are popping up on Instagram, in my stranger Instagram inbox.
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  Speaker 1: And let me find what this dude said to me.
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  Speaker 1: I want to make sure I get this word right.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, ho-ass possum face N-word. Baby face will never be weird.
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  Speaker 2: Will never be overrated.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, weird reminded me of this other woman who was
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  Speaker 1: also in my stranger box who sent me a message
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  Speaker 1: that said, quote, you're a weirdo with the middle finger.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a weirdo. A total stranger.
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  Speaker 4: Hopped up in my shit in the name of baby face.
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  Speaker 2: But hold up, screw. I'm the weirdo.
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  Speaker 1: Some dude told me that this was a, quote, Whitlock-esque take.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, actually, let me tell you something
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  Speaker 1: I am very certain of about Whitlock. Whitlock loves Babyface.
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  Speaker 1: Whitlock is an R & B slow jam dude from
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  Speaker 1: Indianapolis where you can find the Kenny Babyface Edmonds freeway.
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  Speaker 3: Is that a real thing?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. It's incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, that dude had to apologize. Because he was Whitlock
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  Speaker 1: in this analogy.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Never mind.
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  Speaker 1: Never mind the whole, like, everybody gets to have an
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  Speaker 1: opinion sort of thing, right? Of course.
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  Speaker 2: Forget that part. I'm going to just say this.
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  Speaker 1: Because I hadn't planned to shake the table. So I
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  Speaker 1: didn't really get to discuss this, right? And I want
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  Speaker 1: to be very clear. I know people will not believe me.
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  Speaker 1: I told you about the people in my stranger inbox. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 1: I promise you, I have not read a single comment
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  Speaker 1: other than 9th Wonder saying that drugs are rampart. And
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  Speaker 1: the only reason that I read that is because somebody
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  Speaker 1: sent it to me, right? I honestly, I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know what Boy to Man said about my take.
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  Speaker 2: I truly have no idea, okay? This is all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: People talk about Babyface as a songwriter on the upper
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  Speaker 1: echelon of all-time songwriters, okay?
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  Speaker 2: Now, for the white people who are eavesdropping.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, they talk about him like he's on a
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  Speaker 1: Lennon-McCartney songwriting kind of level.
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  Speaker 3: I understand that reference.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right?
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  Speaker 4: Like, they talk about him, and I'm really kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of staying within a pop vein, right?
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  Speaker 1: So not even going to, like, a Bob Dylan hyperliterary
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  Speaker 1: type of thing, right? But Babyface has written a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of hits. I think a lot of those hits are...
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  Speaker 1: Terrible songs, okay? That is my read. So I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to give it to you in a couple different ways
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  Speaker 1: to think about it. If we're going to put him
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  Speaker 1: in this upper echelon, then we're talking about him with
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  Speaker 1: guys like Stevie Wonder. We're talking about him with guys
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  Speaker 1: like Prince, guys like Curtis Mayfield, Smokey Robinson, Holland.
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  Speaker 2: Doja Holland, so forth and so on, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like, if we're saying that he's one of the greatest
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  Speaker 1: songwriters of all time, we're putting him up there on
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  Speaker 1: that level, and that's the part, that I push back against, okay?
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  Speaker 1: So let's say we just drop in super dope songs
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  Speaker 1: that people have written, okay? And it's like, they go
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  Speaker 1: and then Babyface goes, okay? We will spend the coming
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  Speaker 1: month celebrating songs in the key of life. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: episode with Spencer on that coming up, okay? We're gonna,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's about to happen. Songs in the key
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  Speaker 1: of life has as. Okay, Stevie drops as. Your turn, Babyface.
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  Speaker 2: What you got?
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  Speaker 1: Like if you're the super babyface fan, what are you
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  Speaker 1: coming with next? This morning, I just listened to Little
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  Speaker 1: Red Corvette.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Your turn, babyface. What do you have that's on
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  Speaker 2: the level of that?
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  Speaker 1: What bar do you have that's on the level of
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  Speaker 1: body like that ought to be.
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  Speaker 2: In jeans versus on the verge of being obscene? What
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  Speaker 2: you got for that?
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  Speaker 1: Babyface once wrote a song called I'll Make Love to
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  Speaker 1: You that was high school dance music.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that because I was in high school.
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  Speaker 1: Play that shit for a girl and she'll pat you
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  Speaker 1: on the back.
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 1: Curtis Mayfield has People Get Ready. Curtis Mayfield has Pusha Man.
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  Speaker 1: Your goal, Babyface. What, you putting Tenderoni up against that stuff?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what we're doing?
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  Speaker 2: Are you really? No. It's just.
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  Speaker 1: that caliber of guy. Hell, let go even of Michael Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about the record. I'm talking about
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  Speaker 1: the songs, lyrically, right?
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  Speaker 2: Drop Billie Jean in there. Your turn, babyface. No, no, no. Like,
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  Speaker 2: imagine for a second. Just imagine this, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Imagine that Your woman, like, anniversary's coming up or whatever, okay?
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  Speaker 2: And you want to write her a poem.
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  Speaker 1: But you ain't got that in you, right? Like, that's
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  Speaker 1: just not your bag. And your scruples aren't that high.
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  Speaker 1: So you want to get somebody to write a poem
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  Speaker 1: for you that you can pass off as your own.
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  Speaker 1: You know, think about, like, high school, something somebody would
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  Speaker 1: do in high school, right? And so you're like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: I need you to write this poem, man. I give
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  Speaker 1: you $ 100.
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  Speaker 2: Can you write something for me? Cool.
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  Speaker 1: And they'd be like, cool, give me a couple days,
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  Speaker 1: I'll come back. And then in a couple days, they
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  Speaker 1: come back. And he's like, I got the poem.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, man. How'd it go? You
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  Speaker 2: mean the world to me. You are my everything.
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  Speaker 1: I swear the only thing that matters, matters to me.
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  Speaker 2: What the fuck does that mean, Kobe Bryant? Only thing
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  Speaker 2: that matters, matters. Hey, man, look, I ain't going to
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  Speaker 2: lie to you, man. I paid you $ 100 for this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to need a little bit more. Can you
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  Speaker 2: go back and put a little bit more on that?
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  Speaker 2: Say less. Come back the next day. All right. I've
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  Speaker 2: got something else on it. Well, go ahead. Let me
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  Speaker 2: hear it. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, you heard the first part. You mean the world
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  Speaker 1: to me. You are my everything. I swear the only
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  Speaker 1: thing that matters, matters to me.
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  Speaker 2: But hold up. Hold up. This is what you paid for.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Baby, baby, baby, baby, baby. Because you mean so much
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  Speaker 2: to me. You telling me you wouldn't want to get
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  Speaker 2: your fucking money back? That song was a hit.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: This is what I be talking about. Right? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Now, the song sounds excellent. The verse is actually a
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  Speaker 1: bit better than that chorus I gave you. I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to tell somebody that that's one of
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  Speaker 1: the greatest songwriters that ever lived. That's not how that goes. Like,
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  Speaker 1: the Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis stuff that they write, I
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  Speaker 1: find to be more interesting than the L.A.
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  Speaker 2: Reid, Babyface stuff. A lot of that stuff, they jams.
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  Speaker 1: Like, that Bobby Brown stuff he does, they jams because
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Brown is making it jam. You know what the
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  Speaker 1: best written song on that album is? My Prerogative, written
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  Speaker 1: by Teddy Riley. That shit was written well enough that
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  Speaker 1: Britney Spears could dare try to make it work.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: My, My, My by Johnny Gill. Again, imagine I paid
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  Speaker 1: you some money. You came back with My, My, My, My, My, My, My.
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  Speaker 1: That's all you got. Johnny Gill is carrying that to
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  Speaker 1: the finish line.
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  Speaker 2: It is not a byproduct of Gray's songwriting.
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  Speaker 1: Now, what I realized about me, I was talking to
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  Speaker 1: a friend of mine, and she and I were going
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  Speaker 1: back and forth about this, because she couldn't believe I
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  Speaker 1: said this. And she said it dawned on her where
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  Speaker 1: I was coming from. And this is it, for me,
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  Speaker 1: at least. Them Babyface songs is boring.
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  Speaker 2: They just are. And when I say that, this is
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  Speaker 2: what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I don't find that when he does songs that they
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  Speaker 1: come from a place of any, like, imaginations. Like I mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: Little Red Corvette. You can go through line by line.
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  Speaker 1: I understand this woman's get down. I know where she stays.
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  Speaker 1: I know the emotions of this other dude. This whole
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  Speaker 1: story comes together with clear ethos and mentality and everything
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  Speaker 1: else within two verses. And this crazy scene has been
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  Speaker 1: laid out with these really interesting people in them, right?
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  Speaker 2: I don't get that when I hear Babyface, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like, talking about Az by Stevie, like the crazy use
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  Speaker 1: of metaphor and simile and all these things he puts
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  Speaker 1: together and everything else as he builds up to this
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  Speaker 1: hyperbolic thing. I'm not getting that from Babyface. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: getting no song like no Smokey Robinson song. There's no
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  Speaker 1: tracks of my tears out of that catalog out of there.
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  Speaker 1: It's not happening because I find that... The music is
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  Speaker 1: absent of like a certain imagination and just a certain
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  Speaker 1: feeling of like kind of fun and even like mischief
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  Speaker 1: to a degree that I think is important. Like, let's
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  Speaker 1: be real about this. The boy kept on stage. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't see the video, but they told me that it
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  Speaker 1: started off with end of the road.
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  Speaker 2: And that's exactly my point.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I can't imagine throwing End of the Road back
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  Speaker 1: out here and thinking that's a refutation of my point. Like,
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  Speaker 1: the beat is cool or whatever it is, but man,
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  Speaker 1: that's not a, for me, that's not like an exciting record.
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  Speaker 1: That don't have the vibes that I'm looking for coming
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  Speaker 1: off of that. And the truth is, if Babyface's songs
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  Speaker 1: was really that good, I don't know if Kev would
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  Speaker 1: have been allowed to listen to them back in the day.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, I'll make love to you.
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  Speaker 4: Is a sex song for church and not like one
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  Speaker 4: of them songs where it could be about Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: But, you know, would you just switch out, baby? No, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you could listen to that in church and
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  Speaker 4: nobody would feel.
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  Speaker 2: Any sort of conflict.
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  Speaker 1: And that doesn't seem possible to me, except it just
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  Speaker 1: ain't like. I don't find it. to be fun music.
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  Speaker 2: I'll make another point, and.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's interesting about a lot of these rappity
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  Speaker 1: rap fans, which is their expectations and demands of R &
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  Speaker 1: B singers are way lower than their demands of people
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  Speaker 1: when they write raps. Like, if somebody was writing raps
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  Speaker 1: with the kind of simplicity and triteness of a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these Babyface records, I assure you, 9th Wonder would
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  Speaker 1: not be telling me that drugs are Rampart. As somebody
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  Speaker 1: who's talked to that man about rap before, you feel me? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I promise you, I promise you it would not.
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  Speaker 2: Go that way.
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  Speaker 1: But I also need to be fair because I just
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  Speaker 1: said that thing about baby face and like not having
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  Speaker 1: no imagination to his music.
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  Speaker 2: And while I think that.
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  Speaker 1: Is overall true, it's not always true. Because let me
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  Speaker 1: tell you something.
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  Speaker 2: Ain't nobody.
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  Speaker 1: You got to have a serious imagination. To come up
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  Speaker 1: with this song. And you know what song I'm talking about, fellas.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Soon as I get home from work. This man say
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: he gonna buy clothes, cook dinner, pay the rent. Soon
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: as he gets home from work. Where do you work?
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Clearly you don't have that much to do. You must
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: own the whole, does your dad own the factory? And
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: you just got a no-show job? That whole thing, man, that's, that's, that's,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: That is imagination, okay? I'll be perfectly clear with you
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: about it from there.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: But for me, for me, I went and asked Chad
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: GBT to pull me up a list because I was like,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm being too hard on him. And I was like,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: them two Tevin Campbell joints, I actually think those are
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: very well-written songs, including I'm Ready, which is fascinating because
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: he says that's the first song he ever wrote.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: He's still trying to get back to that one. That
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: might be the number one.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I see people who tell me, well, like how well
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: he writes songs for women, which I think is interesting.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Go listen to giving him something he could feel or
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: go listen to Let's Do It Again and then put
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: them songs, them baby face songs you talk about next
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: to those or put them next to Manic Monday or whatever.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: And if your response to me is, well, you can't
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: compare him to Prince of Stevie Wonder, that's the point
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to make.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: My man got beats. He got jams.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: But I feel like his lyrics over his beats, which
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: are very good, is like a.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Was it Wagyu? Is that how you say it? The burger?
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Wagyu, but it's close enough.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: It's like Wagyu with a slice of American cheese. Just
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: kind of plain and uneventful. Now, if you got some
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: other spices around that, you can make it work. That
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: American cheese won't get in the way. You understand what
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I'm saying?
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: But... When they have.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: The cheese cup, wherever they do the cheese cup every year,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I guarantee you that Kraft single does not win, okay?
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: But he can do the job. And I'm not saying
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: my man is not capable of doing the job. I'm
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: just saying, if we putting him in the class of
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the greatest songwriters of all time, there's a couple tiers
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: of guys that he's not on the.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Same level of. That's just how I feel.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: OK, but since the Internet going nuts, I figured I
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: should at least let you hear where it is that
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I was coming from.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: On this matter.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: All right, we are back coming to us live from
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the Ranger, sunny San Diego, California.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Boy, Deontay Lee. And we're going to get to the football, but.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I know you had to chuckle because we go back
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: a while in the content since. And I really forgot
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: that people got so mad about this. They're so hot.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: They're so mad at me. They don't want to see
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: anything I ever say again.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Hey, Kenny Edmonds got shooters. I think that's what I
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: texted you last night.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Like, again, this is... I tell you, the only time
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: it's been worse. And I was being far less... I
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: don't know the right word.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: But I made the point that I would not want
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Sade to sing at my funeral.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I enjoy... her music immensely.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I've spent lots of money on vinyl of hers, but
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: you know, far as like actual factual singing goes.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: We don't need her with eye on the Sparrow. No, no, no, no.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: It's vibes, right? It is vibes, it's a certain thing.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Bruh, I went on a date two days after that
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and the girl showed up in a Sade t-shirt.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Ah, damn.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: The internet, in fact, somebody hit me up today and
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: was like, you ought to tell them how you feel
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: about Sade. And I said, I love Sade.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I don't love baby face. But still, man, it's like,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: people ain't, you can't even, they can't. Anyway, I've been
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: saying this Babyface thing for like 15 years. Who knew?
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: At least. At least, man. Like, this goes back to...
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: early Twitter argument days, early evening Jones days.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, long time.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I felt this a very long way. But, hey, man,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: this NFL season is getting interesting. This is the first
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: time that we have done a full show since the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: shocking victory of the Bears of Chicago over the Eagles
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: of Philadelphia.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Shout out to you, Case Keenum, right? Like, that was
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: a great commercial for Big Brain Ben.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: It's like, look, man, if you can just hold it
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: together and get out here and do what I set
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: up for you, Anybody, you know, even a caveman can.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Do it, right? On the other side, Jalen Hurts.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: And look, after this baby face thing, I feel like
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I need to be kind of careful what it is
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: that I say about Jalen Hurts.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, that did not look good.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: It didn't look good. I would tell you to tread
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: carefully because he also got the cues riding behind him.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: All right. So now we got a very specific faction
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: of people who will be riding in your mentions. If
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: you run a foul of them, but no, I mean,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: it looked like, it looked like everything that God, I
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: hate to even bring this back up. Cause I know
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: it's going to happen to my mentions. It sounded less
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Monday night looked a lot like what AJ Brown was
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: talking about. Not liking about the offense, right? Where, Oh yeah.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: We add all this great stuff in the off season.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: And we're supposed to be, you know, this Shanahan McVay
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: esque offense. And we're going to be layered with all
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: these different runs and play actions and throwing the ball
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: in the middle of the field. And then you're watching
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: in the second half and balls are being thrown up
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: the sideline. And it's Devontae Smith, go be a hero.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: It's Jalen Hurts patting the ball in the pocket, you know, waiting.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Guys are open, not seeing the football. It was a
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: lot of that again. And this was another week where
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: the run game was okay, but not 2024 good. And,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: you know, this just raises the question again, if you
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: have to have a run game that looks like to
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: the 2024 Eagles in order for you to compete for
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: a championship, What is that actually saying about your passing game?
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: And I think that those questions will remain until we
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: really see things coalesce for Philadelphia's offense.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: How do we have something like this with them every
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: single year, even the Super Bowl year where they got
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl and one of the most dominant.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Performances that we have ever seen? It should they should
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: not be so entertaining. and so good at the same time,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: but they're not like entertaining because they're good.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Right. It's just always something happening.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Well, and I would say that like Monday was kind
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: of a regression for her. It's like, I thought the
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: first two weeks there were things on the tape that
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: looked like, okay, this is somebody who is, who is
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: clearly internalized some of the critique that he might've been
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: hearing from within the building. Some of the things that
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: they felt like he needed to work on. He was
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: trying to operate the offense and, within the structure of it.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: I actually thought the second half against the Titans, he
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: looked more like the version of the quarterback he needs
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: to be for that kind of Shanahan type of offense
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: to operate well. And then Monday happened. And now you're
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: just kind of right back to where are you telling
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: me as the level of competition goes up that you're
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: going to be more susceptible to kind of falling back
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: into old habits. And it's not like it was a
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: disaster game, but there were just so many missed opportunities,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I thought, from this offense and from this passing game
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: specifically that I guess the bears defense that we know
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: is not good at defending the past. Cause it has
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: not been good for the entire time. The bitch Johnson's
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: been there. I'm still just trying to figure out why
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: it is that this offense struggles to find a rhythm
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: in the passing game outside of just looking at the
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: quarterback and some of the missed decisions that could have
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: been made.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: And look, they better figure it out.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Cause the way I see it and you tell me
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: if I'm wrong here, this is a, you have no
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: excuse to not win your division sort of situation, right?
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: The Cowboys brought to make a wish foundation back. I
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: suppose that that could get better. They got a brand
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: new coordinator, right? Like there's room for growth and improvement.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: They're okay. But at the same time, they're always going
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: to give up a gang of points. The Giants, I
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: think we can safely say are finished. Unless JJ McCarthy
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: pulls off and one of the more unlikely turnarounds that
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: we've seen in quite a while.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Washington may be better than one in two would indicate
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: and they beat Seattle, but I don't think, You can
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: beat Seattle because it's the NFL and you're an NFL team.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: But I didn't come away from that. You know, Marcus
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Mariota at quarterback.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I know they got Jalen.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: They got Jane Daniels out there and some kind of
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: brace on his elbow.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: We don't need to do that. Yeah, we ain't got
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: to do that.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. Like, look, man, he's done his part.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: He's shown he's willing to do whatever it takes for
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the team. Now you do your part and you get
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: in there. Quite honestly, I don't understand what the point
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: is of having your mama at practice every day if
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: she going to let you go out there like that.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Like, that's the whole thing. Your mama's supposed to stop. Hey, coach, coach, coach.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I think J.D. 's, you know, I don't think today
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: is the day.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: He might need a little time. Listen, man, as a
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: high school football coach, I know that feeling very well.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: You take a peek out in them stands, you know,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: and you see mom or dad hanging out, and you
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: decide that you're going to get involved with the offensive
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: line drills. You're just trying to avoid eye contact. You
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: know what that conversation's going to be.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, J.D., come over here. Come over here for a second.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Let me look at. Coach, are you sure? Not my baby.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Not my baby.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: And you know what? If your mama's still allowed.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: To pull up, that's what your mama should do. Your
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: mama has the veto power. This is what it should be.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: But otherwise, no, I don't think they have a chance.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia should walk to this.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia also, somewhat curiously, has a 14-point.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Negative differential at this point. They have beaten the Titans,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: and they played some bums.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: The first week, too.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: And the Commanders.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Commanders. Bum-ish.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: So this hasn't been great. This could be one of
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: those seasons. Absolutely. The year before they won the Super Bowl,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: remember they had one of those epic collapses with a
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: much more talented team.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Yes. I think we would say than this one.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I would say if you are an Eagles fan, you're
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: now looking at next week's game against the Rams is,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: not an inflection point, but that is going to be
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: the week that tells you a lot about who this
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: team really is supposed to be this season, because you
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: got to score to keep up with LA. If there's
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: one thing that is for sure, outside of whatever that
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: debacle was in Australia, you know that Matthew Stafford in
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: this offense, basically no matter how many receivers are actually
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: on the active roster come game day, they are going
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: to put points on the board and you got to
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: deal with 99 and Trent McDuffie and all the other
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: guys that they have, and Jalen Watson and that, and
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: that good Rams defense, on the other side of the
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: ball as well, you're going to need Jalen Hurst to
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: be at his best. And if he's not, and if
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: this defense struggles, which I think quietly is not the
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: story today because the passing game was a little quiet
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: in a way that maybe we would be a little
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: more critical of Philadelphia's defense, giving up all them yards
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: in that efficient offensive day to case Keenum, a third
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: string quarterback on Monday night football. We need to see
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: this offense kind of at its best against the Rams, right?
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Like if not, I think that the questions will definitely
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: ratchet up even more.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: And guess who else need that win real bad? The Rams. Yeah.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: This is a this is a for both teams. This
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: is where your season can get like a.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Little bit rocky. I feel like, though, like I feel like.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: If the Rams went down to one in three, obviously
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: that would be bad, especially because their division is as
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: tight as it is at the top. You don't want
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: no parts of that. But at the same time, there's
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: something about me that feels like, okay, but maybe this
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: is still a little bit of a sturdier sort of situation.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I feel like the Eagles go down to two and two.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm being unfair, right? Maybe I'm projecting my own
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: shit upon them.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: But I feel like if they come out barely winning
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: those first two games, They then come out and lose
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: these two again, especially if they lose this one at home.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: It's going to get loud around them. Like, I feel
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: like one of the good things about being one of
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: the L.A. teams is it ain't never going to get loud. Like,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: it might get a little tense at work, but it
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: ain't going to get loud like shit. L.A. don't even
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: know the Chargers ain't won a game yet. They don't
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: even know the Chargers started the season yet.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Lakers media day was on Monday.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: L.A.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Has officially checked out on all things football until, you know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: until we get to All-Star break, you know. They'll check
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: back in after All-Star break to go see what the
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: standings ultimately were on the season and then they'll formulate
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: their takes and reverse engineer the season from there. So yeah,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: I think you, if you are in LA, the heat
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: is definitely lower. And I think in Philadelphia, and this
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: is maybe just endemic to the fact that it's Philly
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: and people there, everything about Philadelphia and all sports is
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: always kind of teetering on the brink of unhinged, if
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: not totally unhinged, you do have the Rams and you
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: have the Jaguars. And I think Philadelphia fans will correctly
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: identify those teams as You know, these are units that
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: have good offenses and that are very clear about where
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: they stand in the NFL hierarchy. And Philadelphia likes to
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: fashion itself as one of those teams amongst the NFL elite.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: And if they come out and lay an egg the
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: way that they did on Monday, people will be freaking out.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: And I'm not going to be the Eagles fan fighting
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: the battle, selling them that it's not that deep because
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: we've just seen seasons like this where things start going sideways.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: And then they really start, you know, bottoming out happening far,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: far too often for this team. And by bottoming out,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, a very talented team ended up being a
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: disappointing 11-6 and getting blown out in the playoffs. I
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: think that they would like to avoid that this year
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: for the head coaches' job security sake, for the quarterback's
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: next contract sake, you know, and not to catastrophize, but
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I do think that all those things will be in
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: mind for this team throughout the season and definitely over
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: the next couple weeks.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: At their best, they were established the running guys and
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: You're talking now about doing that with a quarterback, with
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: a running back in his ninth year in the league.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: You know, got miles on him. He had a.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Bunch of touches. He had so many touches in 2024, man.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I don't know how we keep doing this.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Like, actually, the 49ers, because they played that Australia game
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: that I did not see, and then they played against
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: two sets of bums, so I did not watch, so
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know what McCaffrey's looking like over there, but
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: it's a similar situation to me, where it's kind of like, hey, guys, like,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: we can't be betting on, we're just going to give
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: the ball to the running back. Like, McCaffrey so far
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: has 166 yards in three games.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Hey, man, you can do worse, but.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: And I think there's an acknowledgement there that, you know,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: they have Kalen Black as their backup running back and
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: he's gotten quite a few touches, you know, early in
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: the season, which is an acknowledgement of if we want
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: this man to be available to us in January, we
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: can't be riding them in September and October, right? And
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: what they've actually done is put more on the plate
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: of Brock Purdy, who has been producing at a pretty
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: high level. Whether or not you think that means that
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: he's a better quarterback than what you thought before is
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: a different conversation, but he's been producing. The same thing's
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: not happening in Philadelphia, right? We wouldn't even be talking
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: about Saquon Barkley if we had a more efficient day
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: from Jalen Hurts on Monday, right? We would all just
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: be saying, hey, at least the quarterback is figuring it out.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: He'll hold down the fort, and then maybe you can
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: come back to the run game when you need it
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: later on in the year. Right now, the Eagles have
• 31:22
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• 33:04
  Speaker 1: at the Wrangler. I just seized that about the Packers.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: They just can't block, huh?
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Not a soul.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: That's the literal worst thing you can say. They just
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: can't block.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Bro, like, I was sitting watching on Thursday. First of all,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: you get your ass beat by the Falcons. in Michael
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Penix's first start.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: At the crib.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: At the crib, all right? You don't ever hear Lambeau
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Field booing and getting agitated, all right? They are very
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: much happy-go-lucky. We're just glad we have our franchise type
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: of fan environment, and you could feel the angst coming
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: through the screen as you were watching. And I'm watching
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: the Falcons front that's missing basically their two or three
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: of their best defensive linemen basically every week this season
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: because you got the James Pearce dealing with, you know,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: the conduct issues. And then you had Jalen Walker get hurt.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: And they are just blowing plays up left and right.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: And I'm looking at a guy I thought could have
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: maybe become an MVP this season just based off his
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: own talent and Jordan Love. And he's looking like, you know,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: David Carr, you know, with the early Texans. Soon as
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: the ball hits his hands off the shotgun, he got
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: to move off the spot because the defensive tackle is
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: right in his lap. There is no play call to
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: mitigate offensive line issues this bad. And their bad offensive
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: line that they already had is hurt. So now you're
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: talking about playing twos and threes behind a set of
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: ones that weren't that good to begin with.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I feel like, and I know why you can't do this,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: but you should be allowed to like postpone a game
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: or just be like, y'all got this one. Like, what's
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: the problem? We don't have enough guys that are capable
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: of blocking. Hey, hey, hey, hey, man, that's a big problem.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Right. Like that's a, we can't, We can't go out
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: here and play like this, can we?
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Trying to appeal to the safety, player safety.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like with their blocking situation, if this was a
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: game that involved children and things were looking as overwhelming
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: as they were, we'd start to run.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: And clock everything else. We'd be like, hey, man, we
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: just can't. Come on, man, it's not fair to put
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: them out there. And they're just getting hit by other kids. Right.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: That's when you start letting holding penalties go and the
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: refs looking at you like, hey, man, I'm just trying
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: to make it fair. I'm just trying to make it fair.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Vita, they about to be on the other side of
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: them this week. Like, Baker Mayfield's not going to play
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: this week for Tampa. And Tampa can still win this
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: game just because they still have guys that can maul you.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: They got him and the other Aaron Donald, the fake
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Aaron Donald.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: The new but not improved Aaron Donald. Not saying anything
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: bad about him as a player, as a collegiate can't see.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: But he's an undersized, whirling dervish defensive tackle from Pitt.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Yes. We know what the archetype is that he's trying
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: to fill, for sure. Yes.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: But yeah, them against that interior Packers line?
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: It's bad news. I mean, honestly, the red alert had
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: gone up after the Jets game a week ago.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Where I thought that New York actually kind of thoroughly
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: outplayed them in Aaron Glenn's found a way to snatch
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: defeat from the jaws of victory at the end of
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: that game with his clock management and his approach to overtime.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: And like you said, I mean, now you're dealing with
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: the great front seven and, you know, Todd Bowles is
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: going to send blitzes. How do you plan on your
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: quarterback being able to stay upright for four quarters, knowing
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: what you're about to get from them? If you're the
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: if you're the Cowboys now, you're looking at the Packers
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: game in a few weeks saying get right opportunity. We
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: might be able to go get us a few sacks, boys, right,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: and get a chance for us to feel a little
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: bit better. And that's just not the way I expected
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: us to be talking about the Packers coming into the year.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: And I think that this is me as a football
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: guy having to reset, right? I think I've heard Dominique
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: talk about this on your show and certainly on his show,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: where you start getting excited about teams because of their skill, position, talent,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: and their top-end guys and some young, exciting quarterback, and
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: you don't look at the trenches. And then after a
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: couple weeks, you're like, Why does this team not feel
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: as good as they are? And you watch the tape,
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: and it's because their quarterback is on their back every
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: other snap.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: You know my story on that one. It was the
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: COVID Super Bowl.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Chiefs and the Bucs. Mine is Broncos, Panthers, and I
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: think we're going to be bringing up the same people. Yes,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: it's the same thing. I had been picking the Chiefs
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: all week, and then I looked up and they ran
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: the offensive line. And I saw Mike Rivers.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: And I said, I believe that I have made an
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: error in my prognostication.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: It didn't take me any time past that to be like,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Mike Rivers, by the way, who was the LVP of
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: the Broncos-Panthers Super Bowl, where Von Miller, who was on
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: the other side of him, was the MVP.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: It was bad. That was bad. I don't know if
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: you've watched, I don't know if you've seen clips from
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: like Sunday Night Football where they'll pull up a bad
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: offensive line back when they had the PFF grades and
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: it would be dudes 36 out of 39 guards in
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: the league. 37th out of 45 tackles in the league.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Look, there is nothing, this is actually an underrated thing
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: in sports because you don't really see it that much,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: but there are a few things wilder to watch than
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: a completely overmatched tackle. And it doesn't happen but that often.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: But I remember the first time in my life that
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I saw this happen. And I know this is really
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: for only the old players who are going to remember this.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I believe it was the year 1991, the year that
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Washington had the incredible team. But Tennessee, going into that
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: draft that year, Tennessee had two offensive tackles. I feel
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: like they went back to back in the first round.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: One of them went to Tampa. His name was Charles McCray.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: And the other one was named Anton Davis, and he
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: was the right tackle, and he went to the Eagles.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: And it was a Monday night game, and they had
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: him on the other side.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Of Charles Mann. And Charles Mann just ate him alive
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: all game long. And you just, it's over and over
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: and over again. However you want it. And it was 91.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: It was that year. It was 91.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Ate him alive. There is the Thanksgiving Day game. where
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Reggie White just destroyed rookie Larry Allen at left tackle.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: And he was, this is the, Reggie White is that
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: might be the greatest ever and we just don't talk
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: about it anymore.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: No more, yeah.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Reggie White was taking Larry Allen and I don't care.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: how young he was, he was still Larry Allen size.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: And we're just hitting him with that hump move.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: John Madden looked like he had never seen him before.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Because Madden had that clicker. That was the thing people
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: didn't get about John Madden is that John Madden was
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: better at using the tech. than anybody going to the
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: replay and the.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Telestrator but that clicker that clicker always went to the
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: right spot right back and it was just reggie white
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: just my favorite reggie let me think my favorite reggie
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: white highlight i figure you might actually be able to
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: guess it because it's the one that jumps out better
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: than any.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Of them uh is this uh this one he's in
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: green bay he is in green bay I feel like
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: I can't see the opposing team.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Minnesota.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at the camera angle.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: It involves two Hall of Famers. It involves two Hall
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: of Famers.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Somehow, Dennis Green had called some play that involved Chris Carter.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: moving in line and being asked to block Reggie White.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was a one-on-one block of Reggie
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: White because they didn't fire Dennis Green, but somehow Chris
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Carter wound up matched up with Reggie White and Reggie
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: White literally threw him into Warren Moon for the sack.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: That shit could have been a four-on-one. The fact that
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Chris Carter was involved would have made it the wrong call.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: And they said Reggie White would be on the other
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: side of you saying that God has ordained this to
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: take place.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine something more terrible to hear.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I told you I talked to somebody that was around
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: the Rockets after Olajuwon became Hakeem.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Right after he got to age back on it. And
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: they said he used to tell the refs.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: God will judge you for this. They're like, what?
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Right. Who are you talking to right now?
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: We just out here hooping right now, man.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Right. These cats that's talking shit to you, but in
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: God language? Oh, man. People see through that. They still
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: taking you up and they still taking it with the disrespect.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: You can't hide this behind something holy. I know exactly
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: what you mean.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: And I know the old you. I know how to
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: translate this in old you language.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I want to switch gears a little bit. Buffalo, I
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: feel like, has the potential to end New England's season.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I would say so. I would say so, at least spiritually.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's in Buffalo. The Chargers had a chance
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: to get one, but apparently they're sorry. Like, flatly sorry.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: They're probably going to be 0-4.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: I checked out after the Raiders game, but then I'm
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: sitting there watching, and I'm like, okay, you're up four
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: in the turnover margin. I don't know why this game's close,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: but you must be outplaying this team.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. It was
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: close because they sorry. Yeah.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Buffalo just was kind of sleepy for a game, and
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: then woke up in the fourth quarter and was like.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: We are much better than these guys. All we got
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: to do is wait for them to give the game
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: right back to us, and they will.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: And they did. And they did.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: But I'm a little doom and gloom over here about
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Drake May. You got any optimism?
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Not right now. I think I could play the game
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: that some of my buddies in the millennial media football
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: guys do, where you can line up all the snaps
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: on all 22 and say, well, which one is actually
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: this guy's fault? And we could play that game all
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: damn day. And I will probably find plenty of reasons
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: to say, Hey, there's context here. There's context here. You
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: have to think about what the defense is doing here.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: And it's really hard to do that right now. When
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: you just turn it a ball over left and right, bro.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Like they're just, there comes a certain point in time
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: and maybe it's just the coaching me. There comes a
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: certain point in time where you just got to say,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: protect the fucking ball, okay? Get me to the next play.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: I was just telling this to a quarterback the other day.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Your most important job is to get our offense to
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: the next play with the ball in our hands. And
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: when you're throwing the ball to blanketed receivers in the
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: back of the end zone before halftime to their best athlete,
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: you are not doing your job as a quarterback. When
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: you got a wide receiver that is being shoved to
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: the sideline and you still throw it his way and
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Jerrion Jones picks it off, That's a you problem. That
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: ain't a play call problem.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: You say hold the domino, right?
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: That's your thing. Just hold the domino, right? Make sure
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: we got the end of this round. We still go
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: ahead and domino. And look, this is one thing for
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Drake May. You mentioned the play caller. No one's going
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: to blame him.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: No.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Not while you're playing like this. Yeah, and especially not
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: with that franchise. That is an absolute made man in
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the capacity. Talk about Josh McDaniels. If he's the head coach,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: you can blame him for everything and it will probably
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: be his fault.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: But as the.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Offensive coordinator of the New England Patriots, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Nobody's going to say this is on him.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Whether it is or not, it's going to be on you.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: And they gots to figure this out. Vrabel definitely needs
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: him to figure this out because then we're going to
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: remember I mean, I guess the way I put that,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: it sounds like we ain't never forgot.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: We just wait. I do wait to bring it up.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I'll be like, ooh, there's a chance. Let's throw it
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: out there right now.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine sitting in the quarterback meeting room with
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: the head coach and you're like, look, bro, they've been
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: leaving me alone for a little bit. I need you
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: to protect this ball. I'm going to get me a dub.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: We almost there. We almost there.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: These questions is going to come back if we don't
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: get right.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: We can get there.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: To me, and this has been something to me with
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Drake May back on the turnover thing that I've been
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: kind of noting, even last year when things were going
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: well and he actually seemed to keep the interceptions down
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: while they were being explosive. If you go back from
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: 2024 till now, when he was drafted, he is tied
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: for the third most turnovers of any quarterback in the league.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Sam Dron was first with 38, Baker Mayfield the second
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: with 37, and he's tied with Geno Smith with 34.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: That's just not the way that we talk about elite quarterbacks.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: You should not be way up there in turnovers. And
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: if you are, you bet it better be by everything
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: else has to be way. Yes, exactly. You're scrambling better
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: be amazing. And it was last year. You better be
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: explosive in the passing game. And he was last year.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: And now that we're regressing a little bit in that,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: and you're seeing that you don't have AJ Brown to
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: be your security blanket. So it was really just you
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: out there. And when it's just you, we watch and
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: you give the ball to the opposing team. It's a problem.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: It's a huge problem. And I don't know. I wouldn't
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: necessarily say that like he's broken or has the yips.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: I would say that that's a little dramatic, but it is,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: it is getting hard for me to say that's the
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: case much longer.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I'm going to switch gears because Dominique is already completely
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: out on the Cowboys. So, you know, you may be too,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: but I don't know that about you yet. I, they
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: had the chance to win that game against the Ravens,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: but I've watched them win that, lose that game so
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: many times in the last 30 years that I didn't even,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, Hey.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Man, sometimes you lose. That's just what it is. But
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: what do you think about them?
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: They're playing against the Texans who are definitely fighting for
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: their lives in that game. And it kind of feels
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: like a CJ can't get buckets in this game.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Then buckets are just not there to be gotten.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: I think that that's really it. I really think that's it.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, the giants walked the ball up and down
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: the field against his defense with ease. Baltimore basically had
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: whatever they wanted on offense in that game on Sunday.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: And I would say, I mean, Washington was moving the
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: ball just fine until Jaden Daniels blew his elbow, right?
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: So this is not necessarily a new thing that just
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: happened last week where now we're asking questions of their defense.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: This has been really a two, three-year-long thing going back
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: to when Dan Quinn was still in Dallas, that they
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: just don't have the guys to be able to play
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: the level of defense that you need to to be
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: a true contender. So yeah, if you're Houston, if you're
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: D'Amico Ryans, and you're trying to make sure that that
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: seat don't get warm at all, You need C.J. Stroup
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: to show up and go get you 250 yards and
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: two touchdowns at least. Just give me something solid. You
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: would like to see your offensive line actually keep your
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: quarterback upright. And I think if you are Dallas, you
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: got to be looking at this game like, if we
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: don't get this one, man, all the good vibes, all
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: the people who were talking about us being sneaky contenders
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: this year, the chances for us to be looked at
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: as a team that's kind of bounced back after all
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: the people that we've added. on defense and bringing in
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Christian Parker, who's supposed to be this big Fangio guy,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: all that gets washed out if they don't handle business
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: on Sunday.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, is Dak Prescott basically another run of Tony
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Romo where they kind of had 20 years of the
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: same really good quarterback right up until you really need it, really,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: really need it?
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: I think it's Tony Romo, and I would add to it,
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: It's a very Tony Romo-esque career arc where you're going
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: to look back at a three- or four-year window and
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: then like, damn, we actually had a shot to go
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: win a Super Bowl.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Could have been.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: With this guy. And we just weren't ready. And then
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: once we decided to get ready, he started getting old, right?
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: And I think that, you know, he's still playing great
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: football right now, but you're talking about a guy who's
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: on the other side of 30 who's had lower body
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: injuries multiple times. This was right around that time with
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Tony Romo where we started looking back and saying, Hey,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: for all the hard times we gave him in his
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: late mid to late 20s, he was actually balling back then.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: And the Cowboys should have been winning more games with
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: this dude. And for whatever reason, they just weren't able
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: to get it done. We might be looking at this
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: team in a very similar vein right now.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: And look, that end.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Of that game, as I went back and checked it,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I cut them a lot of slack at first.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: That was a bad look.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Like the way that that, to have a quarterback that,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: not just that seasoned, he is in his 11th year
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: as a starter, but also that good.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Right. And the way it went in the end, or.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Just all of it was just kind of a, there's no,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: we got this, Dak out here.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Like, that's the thing. Those Buffalo fans feel like that
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: when Josh Allen's out there.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Right. Even there are postseason hiccups for Lamar, but I've
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: watched Lamar walk them down far too many times in
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: those circumstances where it's like, nah, we got that dude
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: out there. The Cowboys have a very good quarterback.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: That dude is a different space, but that dude is
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: kind of important to have.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. And I think that, you know, like ultimately doesn't
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: really gave that game away in a way that they
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: did not have to. Right. Like, I don't understand. And
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: I appreciate Brian Schottenheimer coming back and trying to own
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: it and saying, hey, this is on me, you know,
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: saying too much to my quarterback, you know, over coaching him,
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: giving him too many answers to the test. And then
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: he makes a decision that I actually coached him to
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: make when we had an opportunity to score. At the
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: end of the day, man, you have four downs against
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: a team that has not been playing excellent defense for
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks. You could have put that
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: game away. That game should have absolutely been put away.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: And I think that it's easy now because he decided
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: to just kick the ball out the back of the
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: end zone and give one of the three best quarterbacks
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: in football a chance to get you in field goal
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: range with one completion that people are talking more about
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: Schottenheimer as a game manager. But the real thing is
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: that sequence inside the five-yard line after a pass interference,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: the game has to end there. If your quarterback is
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: the guy that you believe that he is, he doesn't
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: need overcoaching in that moment. You also have George Pickens. Man,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: I don't give a damn unless they give you the
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Calvin Johnson versus New Orleans punt coverage double team. That
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: guy is getting a shot at the football in that moment.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: So to not do so, to not be able to
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: punch it in, I think that Dallas should be rightfully
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: disappointed that they gave a game away to a team
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: that didn't necessarily need to be in it to be
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: able to go and win that game with a game-winning
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: field goal.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: All right, before we get out of here, this Minnesota
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: defense looks in– incredible how much offense do they need
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: i see they're trying to bring uh justin jefferson back
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: out here this week and that's not how high ankle
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: sprains work at least as far as i'm concerned but
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: certainly not a receiver yeah yeah yeah yeah like so
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: i mean they're playing miami and they got miami at
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: home so i mean i understand i feel like nfl
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: teams can beat nfl teams but fuck out of here
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: right um how much yeah how much offense does minnesota
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: need to really make this happen because kyler murray Did
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: not look great, but I think it's, I mean, first game,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: it's a fair point to bring up.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: How much do they need? I mean, now with the
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: way the Green Bay looks in the division and just
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: kind of the herky-jerky nature that Detroit's been kind of
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: playing with all season long, they might not need more.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: I think you can go and ask your offense to
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: just get you 21 points And that might actually be enough.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: I was probably not going to watch any Dolphins game
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: all year, but I am now going to watch this
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: game because I think there's a chance that Brian Flores
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: can actually blitz 100%.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Of the snaps. Oh, and I forgot, he hates him.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: That's right, they fired him that time.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: This might be the first game in NFL history where
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: a team blitzes on literally every single defensive snap. That's
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: what I'm going to be watching for.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: But League Willis is going to be out there like,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: In baseball now, because the pitchers don't hit, the pitcher
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: throws at somebody, now I got to get hit, because
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: you ain't got to come to the plate. That's where
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Malik Willis is going to be.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: In all this. go have that heel right on the
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: edge of the white in the batter's box, just ready
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: to step out the way.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Flores is coming with that gas.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Like, Flores does not actually have to approach this game
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: with actual factual strategy.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: They ain't got H-hand no more because he got hurt.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: So they don't, like, he doesn't have to be like, yo,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: I got to worry about these things. He just be
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: over there just messing around. Exactly. What y'all want? What
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: y'all want? What y'all want?
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: It's on you. Y'all call it.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Look like one of the preseason games where Steve Kerr
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: will let Draymond be the coach.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Like, Flores be like, hey, Harrison Smith. Hey, you ain't
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: got to play today, man. Come run this. Come run this.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: It's your world. Like, they just, every time I tune
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: in and see Minnesota, it's just a bunch of dudes
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: coming all the time. There's no telling from what direction
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: it's going to happen.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: 100%. And it's funny, like, I have now kind of
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: swung to the other side of the pendulum now, where
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: I'm like, if I were Brian Flores... I don't have,
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: it can't get better than this. Head coach, you can't
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: possibly be better than this. To me, you good where
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: you're at. You good where you're at.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: He's going to spend the rest of his career, and
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: these numbers are going to come at some point, where
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: he's going to be like a $ 10 million a year
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. And the thing at least about being a
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, especially success and failure are very clearly determined.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: You know, like, like, like there's no, there's not a
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: whole lot of shocking moves when it comes to the
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Right. There's, you know, we got to change the flow.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: You know what this is when you're the defensive coordinator
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: and he's going to.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Reach that place where there's a difference between defensive coordinators.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: So like, for example, when we did our AI episode
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: with my man, Ted Tremper, who was on Ted, one
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: of my favorite people, he worked as a producer on
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: that documentary, worked as a producer.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: On game theory.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: And I always talk about learning something about management when
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: he was there because Ted had been a showrunner before
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: and he was the head of our field department. And
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: he wasn't really the head of our field department. He
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: was the showrunner of the field department.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Right. Like he had been that person before.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Like guys get to that place where you get to
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: be the head coach of the defense.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: You know, so like Chip Kelly's back there at Northwestern now.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Chip Kelly's the head coach of the offense at Northwestern.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: Which is really all he ever really wants.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: That's all he wants to be is just to be
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: the head coach of the offense. Brian Flores is going
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: to get to be the head coach of the defense.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: They're like, hey, we would like for you to... He
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: ain't even going to hear this. Brian Flores ain't even
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: got to wear a headset.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Right. Why are you talking to me?
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, why are you talking to me? You better go
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: talk to your quarterback.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Take your ass over there.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Go do that offense shit over there.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go get us. How about you go over there
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: and get us some points? Exactly.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: That's what you can do. That's a conversation we need
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: to have.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: I think there's no shame.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: There's no shame in being this generation's Buddy Ryan, man. Like,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: you tried it out. It didn't work. People got feelings
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: about you. Your personality is a little grating. All right.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Hold on.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you though.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: But Buddy Ryan was never cool with being that either.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: That is true.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: This is true.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: That year, first of all.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: And for those who don't know this, because I understand
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: that this gets low, Buddy Ryan is Rex Ryan's father.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: He was the defensive coordinator for the 85 Bears. He
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: pioneered a defense that doesn't work anymore, but was one
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: of the all-time great defenses, which.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Is the 46 defense. The 46 defense operated on this premise.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: We are going to put as many people in the
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: box as we can to stop the run. Well, what
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: about the pass? We're not going to let you throw it.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: That was the whole premise of the defense is you
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: can't throw the ball if we sack the quarterback. That
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: was it. It was the ultimate feast or famine situation.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: And when it worked, it worked.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: He and Mike Ditka hated each other. Both of them
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: got carried off. The offense carried Ditka off the field
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: The defense carried Buddy Ryan off the field. It was
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: clearly two teams.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Buddy Ryan was the head coach of the defense, but
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: he was so good that Ditka could never fire him
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: through all those years.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Ditka wound up becoming the head coach of the Eagles.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: He gets fired there and he goes and he works
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: on this horse farm in Kentucky because that's his true love.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Out of nowhere, we're in Houston and the news comes
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: that after the 35-3 game in Buffalo.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: You go exactly where I was about to go.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: They blew the 35-3 lead against Buffalo.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Had a really good defense that year, by the way,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: but they blew a 35-3 lead for reasons that had
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: less to do with defense than the fact that you
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: ran a 10 personnel the whole game.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Whatever. The news is the Oilers have hired Buddy Ryan.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: They did not ask Jack Pardee, the head coach, about this,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: but Adams just went and hired Buddy Ryan. Buddy Ryan,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: it's he called the run and shoot office, which is
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: what it was called at the time. It interviews in public,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: the Chuck and duck.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: He referred to it that way. He's got a radio show.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: He's got a TV show. He's saying, if I ran this,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: we would run this with two backs and two wide receivers,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: everything that he would do.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: By the end of the year, the defense was a monster, though. Oh,
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: the defense was a monster. He's in the press campaigning
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: for players. Like, you guys got to get me Wilbur
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Marshall in order to get this done. What? You're the defense? No,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: he's not the defense coordinator. He's the coach of the defense.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Buddy Ryan, head coach of the defense.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: And then one day, I remember we get a phone
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: call at the house from a family friend, and she says,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: we're watching the game. We're saying, no, it's a Sunday
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: night game. The Oilers are playing the Jets, and Buddy
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Ryan has just punched the offensive coordinator in the face.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're Kevin Gilbride, that had to have
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: just been the worst year of your goddamn life.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Except they were like 12-4. They were so good at
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: the end. They were so good. And they lost.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: The day-to-day, you know. Oh, it's awful.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: Awful.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: There's no respect coming from your defense.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: This guy only cares about the respect of defensive players.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I am terrified to think of what he thought of
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Warren Moon. I don't even like, I don't even want
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: to get there. Here's one for you, though. Do you
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: know who the quarterback was in the playoff game that
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: put them out?
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't remember.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I know it was a warm moon.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: It was at the Astrodome. It was the last playoff
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: game at the Astrodome. They played against the Kansas City Chiefs,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: and the quarterback was Joe Montana.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Before the Chiefs got good, like my thing about the
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Washington Wizards, I'm 46 years old. The Wizards haven't won
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: 50 games in my life. For a long stretch with
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs, it was the last time they won a
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: playoff game.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: They beat the Houston Oilers.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Wild. That era of Oilers. That era of Oilers is wild.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: It was that far back. But no, that's the thing.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: If guys, Mike Pettin, remember Mike Pettin got that head coach.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Job with the Browns? It was like, I never want
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: to be a head coach again. Yes.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: I think the same thing happens with offensive line coaches sometimes, man.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Bill Callahan took his shot and was like, man, I
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: don't get to do what I love with this job.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: I just want to be with the big fellas. Just
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: get me with the big fellas.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: I got to say, it doesn't sound like anybody on
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: the coaching staff enjoys their jobs quite like the offensive
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: line coach because they like the guys they coach more
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: than anybody else likes the guys that they coach. That's all.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, you and Dominique kind of talked about the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: personality types that become offensive linemen. You know, the same
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: thing kind of exists with O-line coaches, too. They give
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: you the hard-ass stuff on the field. But outside of that,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: these guys is just hanging. It's just a bunch of
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: big dudes.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Talking about being big.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Trying to be helpful.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Doing their job.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Exactly. They try to be helpful.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: What can I do for you?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: That's it, man. They don't like the stress.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: They are here to contribute.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: They ain't yelling at you, so don't yell at them. Right?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: It's a very particular personality type.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, their thing is like, hey, we are entering
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: into a covenant of sorts where I can tear this
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: whole motherfucker up, but we don't want that. So I've
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: just decided to be cool about it.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: And so you guys should be cool about it, too.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: I want to tell you this last thing. I can
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: save this for the Dominique show, but I'm going to
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: just say it now because I'm thinking about it. Monday
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: night is Saints and the Falcons. And it's 20 years since,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: you know, the Saints returned to the Superdome. And it's
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: the Steve Gleason block. I think they have a statue
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 3: All of that.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, it's very important, very important day in the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: history of the saints. I'm sure that Ryan will be
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: very excited about it. And that's back when I still
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: rooted for the Falcons. And it's really tough because I
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: don't find anything charming about any of that shit.
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  Speaker 2: At all. I don't, it's not, it's not a feel good.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: It's not, it's not a feel good story to me. It's, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't look back on it at all with like, oh, wow,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: how beautiful that was or anything else.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: None of that. None of that at all. I hate that.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: I hated that. I hated that play.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I don't, I mean, I understand if you like it,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: if you were in New Orleans, but like, if y'all
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: cared so much about New Orleans like that, why don't
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: you call your fucking congressman and start doing a little
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: something to.
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  Speaker 2: Help the place out?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Right? Like, it's all you got for them? It's woo, yay,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: way to block the kids. That's all you got for them?
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Because if that's all you got for them, then you
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: ain't really doing nothing at all, to be perfectly honest.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: You faking a fuck. I'm keeping it real.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: This right here is why the NFC South is the
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: greatest fucking division of football. Okay?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: There's some real spite.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: There is legitimate spite.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: And honestly, I would say that... And you know why
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: there's so much... The rivalry's even better now.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: It's so much better now.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: There's so much spite in that division because the teams
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: for so long have by and large been so terrible
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: that all you got is beating each other.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Falcons and the Saints, what's there to get charged up about?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: We got two chances to win a game this year.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, and it's very particular with New Orleans and
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: Atlanta because there is so much just intermingling. And people
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: have had to leave one city for the other for
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: a bunch of different reasons. So it's always mixed company.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Brother, I was at that Super Bowl where all the
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Saints people had bought them tickets and then they got
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: the business end of that call. And all those people
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: still came to the Super Bowl wearing their Saints clothes.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: And I had to be careful because on one hand,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: I wanted to laugh in all of their faces because
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: it was so funny.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: On the other hand, you know what those people had
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: in college. You know what those people had in college.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Those people were from New Orleans. And I don't want
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: to fight anybody from New Orleans under any circumstance whatsoever.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with them solo. I damn
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: sure don't want to deal with a group of agitated
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  Speaker 3: New Orleans.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: White folks, gangsters, and the thugs. I want no problems
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: with any of them. Harry Connick Jr., beat you to sleep.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear none of that. But anyway,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I will not be watching that Monday night game because
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: they not thinking about everybody in their audience, right?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: They normally try to be non-offensive. I'm very offended. How
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: about that?
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: But hey, Deontay Lee, check him out, covering the NFL
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: at the Ranger.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: My man, I greatly appreciate it.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you, bro.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: We'll see if I survive Babyface Gate. Over Babyface, no less.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: We're not talking about Stevie right now. We're not talking
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: about Michael Jackson. We're not talking about Fred Hampton. We're
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: talking about Babyface.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: Not going to cry. That song just popped in my head.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: And God, I love Mary. But you have Mary in
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: the booth. And all you can get me is I'm
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: not going to cry these tears. Eleven years.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: I was your lover and your sacrilege. He's just like,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: fuck it. I ain't coming up with nothing else. I'm done.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: It'll work.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: He was just taking notes on the conversation and said,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: I can make a song out of this.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. He's like, I watched the movie. I'm going
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: to get that exact scene. That is, that is, that is,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: that is what, that is, that gets back again. That's
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: my thing. It's always so on the nose. The only
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: people who made songs more on the nose was Three
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: 6 Mafia. This song is called Let's Plan a Robbery.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: It's about planning a robbery.
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  Speaker 3: Tearing a club up.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 3: What we got going on today?
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: We're going to tear the club up, except they're not boring.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: And that's the difference.
• 1:05:17
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