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Risk it For the Brisket (Passenger 2026) · Scarier Things Club

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  There are rules to surviving a horror movie.
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  Don't split up, don't investigate the noise, and never say, "I'll be right
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  back." Here, three friends break down the scares, the kills, the monsters,
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  and the terrible decisions that got everyone there in the first place.
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  We rate the scares, we roast the victims, and we ask the important
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  question, would we survive?
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  So dim the lights, pour the drinks, and prepare for spoilers.
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  This is the Scarier Things Club.
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  Hi.
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  Hello.
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  Welcome back to the Scarier Things Club.
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  We're so happy that you're here.
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  Luna decided that was the perfect time to jump up on the table and join
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  us, so if you're watching, uh, well, you're, you're not watching, but if
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  you're listening, just imagine a really furry, shedding cat on the table.
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  It's just, she couldn't have picked a better time.
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  We're so happy to be here.
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  We're happy that you're joining us.
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  You know, last, last couple episodes, we thought we had a, a schedule down.
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  We said that we were going to watch Trick or Treat, and Halloween . Luna's
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  trying to take out Beth's microphone.
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  Oh my gosh, you can just push her off the table.
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  No, I love her.
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  Oh, she's just a baby.
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  I'm just a baby.
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  I just need to have pets.
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  And so we, you know, we had planned, like I said, to do Trick or Treat or Halloween,
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  and then I think I saw a post somewhere that today's movie, Passenger, plot twist,
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  has recently been released to streaming.
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  And so we said we need to be a part of that.
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  Um, and so it is available for free on streaming if you have Paramount Plus.
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  It can also be rented though, so I rented this movie on Fandango for,
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  like, four bucks which is not too bad.
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  No.
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  And so that's what we were gonna be discussing today.
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  If you have a chance definitely watch it before listening to this episode.
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  So if you watch Trick or Treat, and you're like, "What the heck? You do-
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  y'all are doing this again," yes.
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  And you know what?
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  Honestly, we can't promise that this is going to be the last time.
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  No, I think we reserve the right to veer from whatever the wheel says- Yes … or
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  whatever we have decided when a timely opportunity comes along, and- Exactly
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  like something comes out to streaming or we, you know- Yeah … something
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  comes out in the theater that we wanna spend the money on.
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  Yeah, we make the rules, so- That's right … start watching.
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  It's our podcast.
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  It's our podcast, dang it.
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  And so we'll be doing Passenger for this episode, and then for our next episode,
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  we will be discussing Trick or Treat.
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  So pause, watch the movie, then come back and join us.
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  So- Yeah, do not listen to this before you watch this movie.
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  Yeah.
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  Like- Please watch it … there are some that I'm like, it's been a
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  long time, like, if you wanna listen to our podcast before you watch
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  Alien or some garbage like that, like- We're still hating on Alien
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  that's fine.
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  But this one don't ruin this movie for yourself.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  With, with that, I'm excited to hear what you thought about it 'cause
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  I had low expectations going into it Oh, I had high expectations.
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  Oh, you did?
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  'Cause the, I remember the trailer I remember really freaking me out.
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  Yeah.
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  And but I couldn't really remem- they didn't tell you really
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  much of what it was about.
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  Right.
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  It was just, had a jump scare in it, and I was like, "Okay." Yeah.
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  "That I wanna see." So then when we saw that it was available, I was
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  like, "We got to get on that." Yes.
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  'Cause I so want to watch this movie.
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  Yes.
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  Okay, great.
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  So before we get too deep into it let's do a quick set the scene.
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  So this movie covers, um, a couple, Maddie and Tyler, and they have abandoned the
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  city life to live in a van and travel.
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  Um, and in the middle of the night they come across an accident, and
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  everything just goes haywire from there.
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  They get they get stalked by this entity, and so it's them trying to figure
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  out what to do, how to get rid of it, and how to survive while on the road.
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  That kinda made me wonder, you know, I'm sitting here thinking,
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  what can I bring to the club today?
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  I like to bring questions.
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  I like to hear about y'all's experiences and y'all's life.
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  Y'all have some funny stories, especially between the two of you.
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  So what I bring to the club today is tell me about or do you have
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  any memorable road trip mishaps?
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  I didn't really.
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  I c- I have a couple, like, short ones.
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  At first I didn't think that we had any.
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  I couldn't really think of many things, like, while we were on the road that
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  went wrong, but then we were sitting here and we were about to start, and
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  I was like, "Wait a minute. There is one." And Mark and I had gone on a
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  trip to a concert with a couple of our friends, and it was really, we
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  hadn't known them too terribly long.
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  I mean, probably, like, a couple of years, so like, after we had moved to this area.
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  Yeah.
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  And we were on our way home
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  um, we had stopped and gotten coffees- Okay … on our way out, and then
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  I had said, now this is also in a time, I think I had started drinking
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  a lot of water at that point, so I had multiple cups back here-
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  Okay … with me and- … the, the girl.
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  Yeah.
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  The guys were up front.
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  And Mark was driving and I said, "I have, we have a lot going on back
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  here, so just be careful driving."
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  And it wasn't too long after that, that the whole car- … just like Fast
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  and Furious went, like, took a U-turn.
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  And I thought that maybe we needed gas.
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  But then I found out later that Mark slung coffee all… I had sandals on.
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  Oh.
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  So then people's full sugar coffee comes all over my feet.
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  Oh, no.
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  I'm so disgusted.
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  I hate feet anyway.
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  Yeah.
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  We have mentioned on here that I don't do bare feet.
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  Well, I had my, my dogs exposed- You were out of rhythm … in sandals.
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  And then so s- and they came, of course, to my side, so I'm
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  just soaked in coffee and sugar.
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  And I was like, "Okay, I hate this." And then he went inside.
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  Turns out this fool pulled all of that for some Casey's breakfast pizza.
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  I have heard this story before.
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  Which if you haven't had Casey's breakfast pizza- … it is delicious and absolutely
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  worth doing an aggressive U-turn for.
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  Not worth a marital problem.
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  Okay.
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  I have a question, though.
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  I mean, we live in the land of Casey's.
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  I mean, it's not like, it's not like this is, like, a Trader Joe's- Amen
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  We can't miss this experience.
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  So what about it at that point where you're like, "Oh, heck no, I, this
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  is, this right here is worth it"?
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  I mean, I was hungry.
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  And all that We're in the middle of nowhere and, and there was a
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  Casey's that we had just driven past.
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  Was this late at night?
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  No.
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  No.
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  No, it was the middle of the day.
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  There was no traffic though.
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  I mean, I'm, I'm happy that there's no traffic- Yeah … but
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  that's just, I imagine this, like, in the middle of the night.
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  Nah, it was the middle of the day.
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  Like driving back from the concert.
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  No.
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  No, breakfast pizza.
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  And God don't like ugly, 'cause you didn't even get a piece
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  anyway, 'cause the person-
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  in front of you got the last one.
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  Which is, which is one of the problems with Casey's is sometimes- … you
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  walk in there and- What did you do?
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  Were you so mad?
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  I think you got something else.
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  I was bummed, but I wasn't mad.
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  Ugh.
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  No, I was the only one mad.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  She was mad.
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  I was just the one suffering for it.
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  Plus you got sticky dogs after that.
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  Yes.
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  So I think one of the, one of our friends had, like, a bottle of water or something.
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  Oh.
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  So I was out by the gas pump just pouring water on myself.
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  Excellent.
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  Excellent, yes.
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  And then we had, you know, six hours to drive.
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  What c- holy cow, where did you go for a concert?
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  We went to Lincoln, Nebraska.
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  Okay.
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  Which is really not that bad of a drive.
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  It's a boring drive- Yeah … but the arena that's right there, there
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  are hotels plenty, like, on that square within walking distance, so
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  you don't have to do the whole, like, after-concert parking lot thing.
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  Yeah.
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  You just walk out and walk a couple of blocks down and you're back at your hotel.
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  Oh, that's nice.
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  Um, and it's so nice.
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  Yeah.
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  But we haven't been in a while.
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  But we saw Alan Jackson, that was his la- we saw, we've seen Chris Stapleton
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  there- Oh, okay … and Alan Jackson.
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  How cool.
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  I bet Chris Stapleton was awesome live.
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  He was.
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  He was sick when we saw him.
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  Yeah.
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  But he was still- Still good though
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  amazing.
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  Yeah.
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  I feel like he is underrated.
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  Like, why is he not- I think lately, yeah, 'cause he had, Like, he's way
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  better than, like, Morgan Wallen or- Oh- I don't like- … a million times
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  … yeah … more talent, songwriting and singing- Yeah … just so much better.
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  But, um, yeah, 'cause he, he had Tennessee Whiskey.
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  It blew up huge.
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  Right.
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  And I think some of his other stuff does well, but for some reason, I
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  think maybe because his shows are very much, "I'm standing here and I'm
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  singing and you're gonna listen to it," and it's, it's great to hear-
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  Yeah … people like Morgan Wallen and stuff, they're, like, running around.
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  They have- Oh, okay
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  all kinds of spectacle.
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  Yeah.
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  It's more of like a just chill and sing along to the songs type- … show.
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  Do you sit down and watch him?
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  Um, there were a lot of people doing either way.
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  Yeah.
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  I feel like we were seated… I can't remember.
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  I think we were most of the time.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  Which w- but we were pretty far back.
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  Oh, okay.
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  So at that point it's like, "I'm just gonna enjoy this." Right.
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  Yeah, we were, we were up in the nosebleeds.
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  Okay.
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  Have y'all ever been to the BOK?
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  Yes.
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  Yeah.
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  Have you ever s- We saw Paramore there.
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  Oh, I bet that was- It was incredible.
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  So, but that was like a couple years ago.
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  Yeah.
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  That's like pretty recent, right?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  That just like makes me think of like the BOK nosebleeds, where it's
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  like a safety hazard- Ooh … I feel like, for you to be standing up.
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  Well, yeah, and that's how I felt, uh, at Garth Brooks at Razorback Stadium.
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  Oh, like way up at the top.
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  Because we were at the… Nicole and a group of us were at the next to
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  the last- row from the guardrail.
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  The very back, backity back.
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  And I was like, "Whoo." Yeah, it's like a- "It's a completely different temperature
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  up here than it is everywhere else." Yes.
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  And, um- Birds are running into my head.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh my g- It was scary … could you imagine?
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  No, ma'am.
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  No, ma'am.
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  I could not.
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  I could not.
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  I would just have to leave.
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  Garth would have to just take my money and- Yeah … i'm bouncing.
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  Yes.
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  That's hilarious.
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  That is funny.
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  So that's my mishap, honestly.
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  Or your, it was really- I- … your mishap- I don't really consider that a
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  mishap … that turned into a problem for the rest- Because- … the car
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  180'd exactly as I wanted it to.
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  The mishap was really just the coffee- What if you had rolled?
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  … that was not secured.
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  Oh, that thing wouldn't have rolled.
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  Rolled.
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  You in your Subaru?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  It's in the Crosstrek.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  It's too low to the ground.
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  Yeah.
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  Did you have a mishap?
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  Uh, we had this one incident where we… I don't know if you'd call this
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  a mishap, but in relation to passenger, just a creepy thing that happened.
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  Was it?
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  No, it was, it wasn't our honeymoon.
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  It was another trip.
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  It was, I think, our honeymoon.
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  No, it wasn't because our- When was these?
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  Or was it our first anniversary?
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  No, it was- When we were going back.
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  No, we were going to Steelville, so it was- That's right … maybe
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  like two or three years in.
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  Two, three years in.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  We used to, every year at our anniversary we'd go to a cabin and just chill.
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  Have no schedule.
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  Yeah.
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  That was, It's a, it was a staycation, but staying somewhere else basically.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And from this- Yeah … part of the state that we were coming from, it, the GPS
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  or mapstock, google.com- showed us that Highway 67 going up through Jonesboro
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  was gonna be significantly faster.
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  Okay.
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  And we thought, "Okay. That's what we'll do. We'll go up that way." And so we did.
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  We get up through Jonesboro, and then we get up to, we cross the
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  border go into Missouri, and then I believe not long after that point
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  we're in the Mark Twain Forest.
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  And when we started, the GPS said it was gonna be about six hours.
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  Yeah We get into that forest and there is nothing.
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  Like, it is miles and miles of just road.
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  And I kid you not, there were no wrong turns.
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  We didn't… We've kept following the GPS.
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  Yeah.
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  It kept adding time.
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  It ended up taking about eight hours.
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  We were in a loop.
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  It was terrifying.
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  It was so scary.
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  Does that go through, like, the Appalachia Mountains at all?
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  No.
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  No, that's- Okay … further, um, east.
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  Okay.
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  But those are… There's some stuff over there.
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  There's some stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  No, it was just nothingness.
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  And, uh, we had seen a movie, I can't remember what it was called.
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  Maybe Dead End or something like that, where the gist of the movie,
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  spoiler alert I guess, that's what we do here, um, is, like, the people
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  are driving and they're in a car full of people, but you find out at the
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  end that they died at the beginning.
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  And, like, that what you watched was, like, they're just
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  perpetually stuck in this car.
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  Oh, gosh.
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  And I was like, "Mark, it's like that movie." And he was like, "Do not say
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  that." Like, what if we're already dead?
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  Uh, yeah.
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  He was like, "Don't- That's so scary … don't say it." Though.
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  Yeah, it was freaky.
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  So- I like- … I thought we were never gonna get there … no explanation as
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  to, like- No, we still have no clue.
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  Nothing, 'cause normally when that happens and you're traveling and
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  you're using Google Maps, a lot of times it might be, okay, there's a
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  traffic incident up ahead, and that's causing the, the time to stretch out.
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  Yeah.
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  This was, I mean, middle of nowhere, all the way to our destination.
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  Oh, goodness.
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  There was no cities, no, no nothing that would've caused that- At least you didn't-
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  … to happen … like, lose your GPS signal.
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  Has that ever happened to you- That would've been bad … like,
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  where you're- That'd been really bad … like, suspension?
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  I think when that happened, I think I was terrified to touch anything.
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  Mm.
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  'Cause, you know, sometimes if, if you leave it alone and you don't navigate away
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  from anything, like Spotify will do that.
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  It'll keep running if you don't try to, like, pick a different song.
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  When you don't have any service it'll usually, like- Oh,
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  yeah … it will stall out on you.
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  But I was afraid of that happening with the GPS, so I'm like,
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  "Let's just don't touch- Yeah
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  anything." 'Cause if we try to find another route, it might
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  completely, like, go on the fritz.
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  Yeah.
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  So- And then- … it's just, like, do your best and stay on the course and- Was this-
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  … hope you make it … was this daytime?
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  That y'all- No.
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  No, this was the middle of the night.
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  It was the night.
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  That- It was dark … that's even worse.
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  Did you ever see, like, any other c- like, another car?
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  Not really, no.
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  Very few.
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  Oh my gosh, that, no.
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  Okay, 'cause that honestly- Very, very few … honestly, so the podcast, uh,
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  my favorite podcast, And That's Why We Drink, which super sad, like, one of the
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  hosts is leaving at the end of next m- uh- Oh … as, as we record this, next
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  month in October, which is super sad.
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  But anyway, they'll do listener stories at the start of each month, and I cannot
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  tell you how many alien abduction story start out where it's like they're driving
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  and, like, a time loop of some sort happens, and they just, like, lose time.
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  That is crazy.
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  I mean, who knows?
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  Maybe he got, like, abducted by aliens.
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  Maybe.
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  Maybe so.
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  And we don't even get to remember it.
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  I would've been much more interested in alien- Would you want to remember it?
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  If we… I don't know.
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  It depends on what they did.
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  Yeah, I wanna know.
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  Ugh.
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  I- I mean, I could I probably not wanna know … would nerd so hard, yes.
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  I wanna know if they gave me some superpowers or something.
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  Probably.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, what- You know?
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  … what do they want?
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  I don't know.
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  Well, actually, Spooky I the navigation getting suspended, that happened to
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  me once when I was, as a freshman in college, I drove from Shawnee, Oklahoma,
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  to Dallas, and I had never been to Dallas.
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  And I was meeting up with my boyfriend at the time to go see Imagine Dragons,
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  like, for their first album- Ooh
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  which was really cool.
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  But I'm, like, not a good dri- I mean, like, I'm a safe-ish driver on the road,
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  whatever, but, like, navigation, no.
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  I can't tell you any kind of like- Yeah … I couldn't even tell you,
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  like, which direction is north.
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  And I kept making so many wrong turns 'cause I was getting lost,
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  that my navigation suspended.
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  And I was like, "What do you mean?" Like, I don't even know where… I could've
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  been- Ooh … in, like, Nevada, and I would've- I would've been in trouble.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And my, my sweet mom was like this, "You're going on this trip just
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  you and your boyfriend by yourself.
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  This is a test." And I was like, "I can't, like-
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  I'm gonna feel this way because I don't even know where I
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  am." But eventually I made it.
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  And then there have been a couple times where, like, we have lost our parked car.
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  Have y'all ever done that?
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  Like in a- Lost a parked car?
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  … in a lot?
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  Yeah.
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  Just forgot where you parked?
• 15:56
  Yeah.
• 15:57
  Yeah.
• 15:57
  But, like, bad.
• 15:58
  Yeah, I mean, well, no.
• 15:59
  I don't think to a, a situation where- I was wandering around for a long time.
• 16:04
  Oh my God.
• 16:04
  So whenever, again, we were in college, um, my boyfriend at the time we did
• 16:09
  the Color Run in downtown Little Rock.
• 16:11
  Mm-hmm.
• 16:12
  And we were running late from, like, Conway, so we like, you know,
• 16:15
  we're downtown Little Rock and it's, it's just like, it's kinda crazy.
• 16:18
  Like, there were markets, like insane, and like trying to find
• 16:20
  parking in, in, in general.
• 16:22
  We parked, we get out of the car, we run 'cause we're meeting our friends
• 16:25
  for the race, and then we do the race.
• 16:28
  We're walking back and we could not find our car.
• 16:30
  Oh.
• 16:31
  We liter- and we walked around for hours.
• 16:35
  Well, yeah, and you don't wanna do that in Little Rock.
• 16:37
  Exactly.
• 16:38
  And so, and like our phones were starting to, like, get low on battery, and so
• 16:40
  it got to a point to where we were desperate that we called the cops and
• 16:44
  we were like, "Hey, we need help finding our car." So they had to drive around-
• 16:48
  … until they could find Jeff's car.
• 16:50
  And so then I got to ride in a cop car- Okay
• 16:53
  because they gave us a lift to the car.
• 16:56
  And then Alek and I also did that at an airshow in, um, uh, Jacksonville, and
• 17:02
  we were in the parking lot and I was in charge of trying to remember, like,
• 17:05
  where the car was and- … I did not do that well, and so- You had one job.
• 17:10
  Exactly.
• 17:11
  So we had to, like, stand in, like, truck beds to try and find our car.
• 17:15
  So luckily I feel like that's the worst mishap that we've had.
• 17:19
  That was not, not our worst.
• 17:21
  I feel like our worst, I was asleep for.
• 17:24
  But- Yeah, we were, we were… You know, we travel a lot.
• 17:27
  Yeah.
• 17:28
  Especially going back home and visiting family.
• 17:30
  And so one… uh, this just, I mean, we've made this trip hundreds of times
• 17:35
  and, you never think anything of it.
• 17:38
  Yeah.
• 17:38
  And so we almost always stop at the same gas station, everything.
• 17:43
  Uh, it's kinda almost at the halfway point.
• 17:45
  So we leave out of there, go back, get back on I-40 heading, heading
• 17:50
  east, and then I look in the rear view mirror and I see in the distance a
• 17:55
  car with their emergency flashers on.
• 17:58
  Okay.
• 17:59
  And so I'm just kinda watching it, and it's getting closer and closer,
• 18:02
  and I'm thinking, "Okay, they're driving faster than me, right?"
• 18:06
  'Cause they're catching up.
• 18:07
  Okay.
• 18:07
  And I'm thinking that they're just gonna drive past me.
• 18:10
  Yeah.
• 18:11
  They don't.
• 18:12
  Oh my gosh.
• 18:13
  They get on my tail.
• 18:16
  Not, like, right on my tail, but, like, behind me.
• 18:17
  But they're close.
• 18:19
  And, you know, and it, it's obvious 'cause I mean, they're, they're there,
• 18:22
  they've got their emergency flashers on.
• 18:23
  Yeah.
• 18:24
  Almost like a, "Hey, look at me." Like, "I'm here." Exactly.
• 18:28
  Yeah.
• 18:28
  And so keep driving, and I'm just watching them.
• 18:33
  Like, why are they not passing me?
• 18:34
  Yeah.
• 18:35
  And then so I switch to another lane.
• 18:38
  Uh-huh.
• 18:38
  They switch to another lane.
• 18:39
  Oh, no.
• 18:40
  I switch back, they switch back.
• 18:43
  And then up in the distance, and this is a knot, but I can see what, I can
• 18:47
  start to see a outline of a car up ahead.
• 18:49
  And it was a state trooper.
• 18:50
  Okay.
• 18:52
  And we get closer and closer.
• 18:53
  They start backing off.
• 18:55
  Of course, yeah.
• 18:56
  And so we get past them, and then here they come again.
• 18:59
  Oh my gosh.
• 19:00
  And so at this point I'm just sitting there… I mean, this is,
• 19:03
  it's like 120 mile stretch I think.
• 19:05
  Yeah.
• 19:06
  And they followed us the entire way.
• 19:11
  And then finally… And I mean, I'm at, at this point I'm convinced.
• 19:14
  I'm like, "Okay, these…" But I'm like, "What do you do?" I
• 19:16
  mean, I… Do you call the cops?
• 19:18
  Do you- Yes.
• 19:19
  Yeah.
• 19:19
  If I had been awake, I would've called the cops.
• 19:22
  You say, "This is happening," and they come and intercept them.
• 19:26
  Uh-huh.
• 19:27
  Well, the, the- In the, in the act.
• 19:29
  Well, the final- That's like the easiest way, and I've like, I
• 19:31
  woke up and it was already over.
• 19:34
  And- I would've been like, "You didn't call the police? Are you kidding
• 19:37
  me?" Well, I got away from them, so How did you get away from them?
• 19:40
  All right.
• 19:40
  So, and this, this right here was like, at this point, when you get to, uh,
• 19:47
  Little Rock and you're, you're on, on, you're on 40, you can either keep going
• 19:51
  straight or you can go onto, uh, 430.
• 19:54
  And we always go onto 430, 'cause that's the way to get home.
• 19:58
  And so- Is that like through Benton?
• 20:01
  Yes, you do go through Benton.
• 20:02
  Well, I mean, yeah, you end up- Like after you take the Little Rock exit,
• 20:04
  you do go through Benton to get down.
• 20:05
  Yeah, I mean, you, but you can technically stay on 40 and then get
• 20:08
  right onto I-30 and then come down- Yeah
• 20:10
  through Benton.
• 20:11
  But this is like a, a shortcut, kinda.
• 20:13
  Is that the one that goes by like Baptist?
• 20:17
  Maybe.
• 20:18
  I'm not 100% It doesn't matter.
• 20:19
  I just- Yeah … but anyway.
• 20:20
  But, yeah.
• 20:20
  But anyway it's, um, it's a four-way high interstate, and, you
• 20:26
  know, two lanes go this way, two lane, two lanes go the other way.
• 20:29
  I pull into the two lanes that are going, you know, are going to keep going
• 20:34
  to, you know, to I-30 instead of 430.
• 20:36
  Okay.
• 20:38
  They do the same.
• 20:39
  At the very last moment- Oh, you switch?
• 20:43
  … I cut my, cut the wheel over, get onto the off ramp going to 430.
• 20:48
  They did the same thing.
• 20:50
  Oh my God.
• 20:50
  And that's when- At that point- … it's like zero question.
• 20:53
  911. At that point I gunned it, and I was like, "I don't care if
• 20:57
  I get pulled over." And I just, I ended up losing 'em Oh my gosh.
• 21:04
  There is no telling- Yeah … what they wanted.
• 21:07
  Yes.
• 21:07
  Did they have their hazards on the whole time?
• 21:09
  The whole time.
• 21:11
  That, okay, first of all, that person is psychotic to listen to that.
• 21:14
  Yeah.
• 21:15
  You said for 120 miles?
• 21:17
  It may be less than 120.
• 21:18
  So for like- It's, it's whatever, Ozark to- I mean, it's a couple hours
• 21:21
  oh, out of Ozark to, isn't that in Madison County?
• 21:24
  From, from, from Ozark to, uh, Little Rock, that stretch of I-40.
• 21:29
  And that's like a miserable, boring stretch, too.
• 21:31
  Yeah.
• 21:32
  And I mean, I have, like ever since that incident, and I, I don't
• 21:35
  even remember what year that was.
• 21:37
  A couple years ago.
• 21:37
  Every now and then I, I'll think about it, and I'll go on the inter- I'll
• 21:40
  go on the internet, and I'll start looking like someone being followed
• 21:42
  with their hazards flashing or whatever.
• 21:44
  Oh my goodness.
• 21:45
  I've yet to see anybody report a story- You know what- … like that,
• 21:48
  so … it would've been reported?
• 21:50
  If you had called the cops.
• 21:51
  Called the police.
• 21:52
  I w- look, looking back, I wish I would have.
• 21:54
  I really do.
• 21:54
  When did you wake up?
• 21:55
  About the time we were taking the exit to go to my sister's house,
• 21:59
  which is like right off the highway.
• 22:00
  And so I was also kinda hacked off, 'cause I'm like, "How do you know
• 22:04
  for 100% that you lost them?" Yeah.
• 22:07
  And so we're now going to my family's house- Right … where
• 22:11
  all of my people are.
• 22:13
  What if they find us?
• 22:15
  What if they wanted us specifically for some reason?
• 22:17
  I don't know what.
• 22:18
  They probably just wanted somebody to pull over, and y- we were
• 22:22
  just the car that they chose.
• 22:23
  But like- Yeah … that person obviously did not want something good.
• 22:28
  Yeah.
• 22:29
  And so- I was- … I was upset that we were that close to home, and I was
• 22:33
  like, "You're kidding me." Like- Yeah.
• 22:36
  Oh my goodness, that is so scary … well, I went, I went and stood out in the
• 22:37
  driveway for a long time when we got home.
• 22:39
  What were you gonna do?
• 22:41
  Shoot him?
• 22:43
  Did you even have a gun at that point?
• 22:44
  I did not, no.
• 22:44
  So he wasn't carrying.
• 22:45
  Now he carries- So what were you gonna do?
• 22:46
  … all the time.
• 22:47
  Well, I mean, I would've gone back in and… I mean, we were, you know, we
• 22:51
  were at a house that had a gun, so.
• 22:52
  Oh, okay.
• 22:53
  But I went out there just to s- I just stood and watched.
• 22:56
  And then if, if someone come pulling up, I'd be like, "All right." It's go time.
• 22:59
  It's go time.
• 23:00
  Oh, my goodness.
• 23:01
  But, yeah.
• 23:02
  Okay last thing.
• 23:03
  So that just… Did you like… And you think they followed
• 23:06
  you from that gas station?
• 23:09
  I don't… That's the thing.
• 23:10
  Like, sometimes I wonder if, if that's maybe- Where they-
• 23:13
  where they w- just for whatever reason- Yeah … decided.
• 23:16
  But, and- But then I don't know, 'cause they just came out of nowhere-
• 23:20
  Yeah … after we'd already gotten on the interstate, and they just…
• 23:23
  And it was, like, just the two of you guys for on the interstate basically?
• 23:25
  Mm-hmm.
• 23:25
  'Cause of that… Do you guy- y'all like to drive, like, late at night?
• 23:29
  We- Like, when you go on trips … I don't know that I'd say we like to.
• 23:31
  Well, when we go home to visit family, we just usually end up
• 23:35
  leaving this area- Like, after work or whatever … later than we planned to.
• 23:38
  Yeah.
• 23:39
  So we don't get there until sometimes 1:00 in the morning.
• 23:42
  Oh, dear.
• 23:43
  But so it was probably, I don't know, it might've been 9:00,
• 23:47
  10:00 when we were in Ozark.
• 23:48
  Who knows?
• 23:48
  But yes, when we go on long trips where we're going, like, driving
• 23:52
  to the beach or driving, like, 12, 14 hours, we'll start at, like,
• 23:57
  midnight- Yeah … and drive through.
• 24:01
  Yeah.
• 24:01
  And take shifts, but… Oh, my gosh.
• 24:03
  So last thing and then, and then we'll get into it, 'cause this has
• 24:07
  been, like, the longest intro ever.
• 24:08
  Um, when we were in college in Conway, which, like, isn't
• 24:12
  necessarily, like, dangerous, but, like, some sketchiness to it, right?
• 24:16
  My friend Megan and I, we were driving at night, going to our friend's house, and
• 24:19
  we passed a, a car with their headlights off, and it was, like, nighttime.
• 24:23
  Ooh.
• 24:23
  And so Meg flashed her lights- No
• 24:25
  at her.
• 24:25
  And I said- No.
• 24:27
  No.
• 24:27
  I was like, "Megan, do not… Like, never do that again, ever." And she had no idea
• 24:33
  that, like, that's a thing that people do.
• 24:34
  Oh, she'd never heard that?
• 24:35
  She had never heard that.
• 24:36
  And so like- Interesting … and so I was like, I told her, and she was like, you
• 24:40
  know, she's like, "It's probably fine."
• 24:42
  So we went to our friend's house, and, um, we were telling them, like,
• 24:46
  what had happened, and they were like, "Megan, like, that was so dumb.
• 24:49
  I can't believe you did that." And so then we left and went home, but
• 24:52
  then I guess, like, an hour or so later, they had a knock at their door.
• 24:56
  And they were like- … "Oh, my God."
• 24:59
  Like- Yeah … it's, it's whoever it was.
• 25:00
  And it was, um, it was somebody, like, trying to deliver pizza,
• 25:04
  so it ended up being fine.
• 25:05
  But, like, they had the wrong address.
• 25:07
  That's so scary though.
• 25:08
  But yeah, I, well, 'cause, like, she, she, like, did… I could, like,
• 25:11
  see her, like, process and, like, before I could even say, like, "Do
• 25:15
  not," she flashed her lights at them.
• 25:17
  Oh.
• 25:17
  And I, I seriously, I fin- I was so freaked out when she did that.
• 25:22
  I don't know if I ever had… If I already knew that-
• 25:27
  story before the movie Urban Legend came out, but they did use that.
• 25:32
  Have you ever seen that movie?
• 25:33
  No.
• 25:34
  Oh, it's good.
• 25:34
  It's like a 2000s, like late '90s, early 2000s slasher type movie where the killer
• 25:42
  is using all of these urban legends- Oh
• 25:45
  to terrorize, like, a college campus.
• 25:47
  Ooh.
• 25:48
  Yeah.
• 25:48
  It's good.
• 25:49
  We should watch it.
• 25:49
  Okay.
• 25:49
  But they that's kinda one of those that is a- Let me see
• 25:53
  if it's on Amazon really quick
• 25:57
  Maybe we can add it
• 26:00
  So fun fact Okay 'cause I was, I was just sitting here thinking, you know what?
• 26:04
  I wonder
• 26:07
  It appears that that is an urban legend.
• 26:10
  That is gang initiation?
• 26:11
  Yeah.
• 26:12
  That is, that's not really true.
• 26:13
  But just, you know- I mean, I'm not gonna do it … I'm still not gonna do it.
• 26:17
  Yeah.
• 26:18
  Even- Right … me never reading that, "Oh, yeah, that's probably
• 26:21
  not true," uh, yeah, I'm still not gonna flash my lights at somebody
• 26:24
  that has never ha- headlights on.
• 26:26
  Yeah.
• 26:27
  Yeah.
• 26:27
  Well, especially now that, like, the idea is out there that
• 26:29
  that's, like, a thing to do.
• 26:30
  Right.
• 26:31
  Right.
• 26:31
  Yeah, just I don't e- even, like, wanna give people an idea, so yeah.
• 26:37
  Okay.
• 26:37
  Well, thank you for that.
• 26:38
  Some really, some not funny, but spooky stuff.
• 26:41
  Oof, I don't like that at all.
• 26:43
  Yeah, that might not have been what you were th- thinking
• 26:45
  you were- No, but that's okay
• 26:45
  gonna get when you asked that question.
• 26:47
  That, I mean, typically the goal is to try to get some sort of funny story out.
• 26:51
  But you know, I'm open to- Yeah … the real-life scary stuff, too.
• 26:56
  It happened.
• 26:57
  So since we had kind of a Passenger-like experience what did
• 27:02
  you guys think about the movie?
• 27:04
  What are your…
• 27:05
  I think the, the two guys at the beginning, like I had forgotten that
• 27:08
  basically all of that before the title card was pretty much the trailer.
• 27:13
  Yeah.
• 27:14
  And I had kind of, that had slipped my mind.
• 27:16
  I was like, okay, I remember that these two guys were in the car, or this one
• 27:19
  guy was driving, and then like there was the jump scare that totally got me.
• 27:22
  Yeah.
• 27:23
  But I don't know, like I feel like I could relate to those guys 'cause
• 27:28
  obviously- I did think of you … like- I
• 27:32
  did.
• 27:32
  'Cause like that would happen to me all the time is I was like, "I have to
• 27:35
  drink so much water," and he's like, "Have you gone to the doctor?" Yeah.
• 27:39
  And I'm like, "Brother, you need to go get your antibodies checked
• 27:42
  because something ain't right."
• 27:44
  I know.
• 27:45
  I know, but you used to be so afraid of the doctor, right?
• 27:48
  Well, yeah, I don't have a choice now.
• 27:49
  Yeah, yeah.
• 27:51
  Yeah.
• 27:51
  No, I definitely was like, wow, this guy… I was like, this is Beth.
• 27:55
  Um- Yeah, for sure … I also thought about you whenever… 'Cause like
• 27:59
  isn't he, at first he's asleep, the passenger- … friend is asleep.
• 28:03
  Yeah.
• 28:03
  And so the driver screams to wake him up- Uh-huh … and it made
• 28:06
  me think about whenever you woke Mark up that way by screaming.
• 28:10
  Uh-huh.
• 28:10
  And my dad used to do that to my mom all the time, like when we were on,
• 28:13
  if we were- … traveling somewhere.
• 28:15
  Your dad was a mischievous guy.
• 28:16
  And he… Yeah, he was.
• 28:17
  So like he'd be driving, and she'd either be asleep or just peacefully not-
• 28:22
  just listen to whatever music we had on.
• 28:25
  And he would find a time where he could just like scream, or he would like
• 28:31
  hit the brakes and go, "Hey," if there was like a field over to the side.
• 28:35
  And she's like, "Oh my gosh," and she'd startle.
• 28:37
  And he's like, "What?
• 28:37
  There's hay over there." Oh my- And she was like, "I'm so mad at you."
• 28:42
  Yes.
• 28:42
  But he would just crack up laughing.
• 28:44
  I bet.
• 28:44
  And he did the thing one time I remember where, you know if, um, like a, a truck,
• 28:51
  like a big truck is hauling another big truck, but they're hauling it where
• 28:54
  the cab is facing- Oh, yeah … you.
• 28:57
  Hate that.
• 28:57
  He got up behind it and definitely did, like make her think that we were…
• 29:01
  'Cause she was asleep, and he was like, oh.
• 29:03
  He never passed up an opportunity- Oh, wow … to just- Your poor mom
• 29:07
  was just trying to do her best.
• 29:09
  Oh, yeah.
• 29:10
  No, she was just living her life peacefully and like- No
• 29:14
  peace … no, none at all.
• 29:15
  Wow.
• 29:15
  So, so yes, that was very relatable at the beginning- Yes … and then I was
• 29:18
  like, oh my gosh, I hope, I hope not.
• 29:20
  Also
• 29:23
  I don't know if I'm jealous of guys.
• 29:25
  Like, 'cause he just, it was like, "I gotta pee." Oh, right.
• 29:28
  And they just pull over.
• 29:29
  I know.
• 29:29
  And I can't imagine that.
• 29:30
  I could never.
• 29:31
  I mean, like, I know we can.
• 29:33
  Yeah.
• 29:34
  We can just go in the woods.
• 29:35
  I just w- I can't.
• 29:36
  Have you ever been in that desperate of a situation where you've like- No
• 29:39
  you've had no… Oh.
• 29:41
  No.
• 29:41
  Really?
• 29:42
  Not even to pee?
• 29:43
  No, but I would have that time if you hadn't have been able to find somewhere.
• 29:47
  When we were on our way to, like, Kansas City.
• 29:49
  I was about that close.
• 29:50
  Yeah.
• 29:51
  That mark, I just… Like, Beth goes, "Hey, we're gonna need to
• 29:55
  stop soon." And we're, like, in, like- Nowhere … Nowhere, Missouri.
• 29:59
  And I said, "Okay," like, "Okay," like, "We'll, we'll find somewhere."
• 30:02
  And then she starts leaning forward.
• 30:04
  And it's like, oh it's that bad.
• 30:06
  I was trying to be a strong girl.
• 30:08
  And then she starts rocking, and I'm like, "Okay, yeah, we- You know what,
• 30:10
  you know what she's really good at?
• 30:12
  Because this is, th- this guy also did that, where he's
• 30:14
  like, "No, I don't have to go."
• 30:16
  She's really good- It happens fast, okay?
• 30:18
  When you're in that situation, it just… She's really good at saying,
• 30:23
  "Oh, hey, I need to go to the bathroom," I mean right after we pass the exit.
• 30:30
  Oh.
• 30:30
  Okay, but to be fair, that doesn't really happen so much anymore.
• 30:34
  No, but- I had a medical condition, okay?
• 30:37
  Yeah, I mean, technically, I- I mean, I technically, I still have
• 30:38
  the condition, but, like, it was an untreated medical condition.
• 30:43
  I couldn't help it.
• 30:44
  Oh.
• 30:44
  'Cause like it's, that's the thing with… I understand this man, 'cause
• 30:47
  I'm sure at the time he didn't have to.
• 30:49
  But when you're in that s- pr- that particular situation you don't
• 30:54
  have to go, and then you just do.
• 30:56
  I will say there will be experiences in your life where it will
• 31:00
  be to a whole new level- Yeah
• 31:01
  for you, and yeah, there's just nothing you can do about it.
• 31:05
  Yeah.
• 31:06
  But like you've… So have you ever gone to the bathroom outside?
• 31:10
  I listen, I am a city girl.
• 31:12
  I know I sound like cornbread From Malvern?
• 31:15
  Yeah, girl.
• 31:16
  Yeah, girl.
• 31:17
  Okay.
• 31:18
  I don't do the country.
• 31:19
  Okay.
• 31:19
  I'm Southern, I am not country.
• 31:21
  Those are two different things.
• 31:22
  Teaches.
• 31:24
  And I cannot, like I'm, like I, nobody would- It's a phobia?
• 31:28
  Uh, I just don't do- Not a phobia, but just a mental block?
• 31:30
  … the nature stuff.
• 31:32
  Like I like to look at it, I don't wanna be in it.
• 31:34
  There's- Okay … there are bugs and critters and all of
• 31:36
  that, and modern amenities.
• 31:39
  I must have running water.
• 31:41
  Oh.
• 31:41
  I must have toilet paper.
• 31:43
  I can't do camping.
• 31:44
  I won't.
• 31:45
  Oh, do you wanna… Do you like to camp?
• 31:48
  N- no.
• 31:49
  I mean, I've done it.
• 31:50
  Oh.
• 31:50
  I've done it.
• 31:50
  So you guys are perfect for each other.
• 31:51
  Yeah.
• 31:52
  Yeah, yeah.
• 31:52
  I've done it before, but- No a cabin out in the middle of nowhere?
• 31:54
  Dream.
• 31:55
  Yeah, it's your dream.
• 31:55
  With running water.
• 31:56
  Yeah.
• 31:56
  Yes.
• 31:57
  And I can enjoy the outdoors- Yes
• 32:00
  from the indoors with air conditioning.
• 32:02
  Oh, okay.
• 32:03
  So you're like- Central heat and air.
• 32:04
  Okay.
• 32:05
  I'm about that life.
• 32:06
  Or I mean, we- Okay, great.
• 32:06
  Yeah … that's why we usually take, you know, we'll go in like November-
• 32:09
  Yeah … to, to a cabin because then you can sit out on the deck.
• 32:13
  It's not, stupid hot out.
• 32:15
  Yeah.
• 32:15
  You can enjoy- Yeah … the, nature and all that stuff from
• 32:19
  the comfort of a, of a deck.
• 32:21
  Okay.
• 32:21
  Yeah.
• 32:21
  Good to know.
• 32:22
  So no, I don't rock with that.
• 32:25
  Oh, okay.
• 32:26
  That country life, that's not for me.
• 32:28
  Okay, I will say I am also not a country girl.
• 32:31
  But if I'm desperate enough, yeah, I'm gonna go pee outside.
• 32:35
  I mean, I could probably get desperate enough at some point.
• 32:38
  I ju- There are a lot of logistics concerns like that I have.
• 32:41
  It's like what if?
• 32:42
  Okay, 'cause also- … sometimes you'd think it's just a number one.
• 32:48
  That's true.
• 32:48
  And I've- And it's not … and I've done that too.
• 32:51
  And in that situation, like I can get it if you're like, okay, you just
• 32:56
  got like a dude, you drip a drop.
• 32:58
  It is what it is.
• 32:59
  Yeah.
• 33:01
  That's kinda gross to me, but it is what it is.
• 33:06
  But if the, if it's more intensive than that- Yeah … and you, what do you have?
• 33:12
  A sock?
• 33:13
  It's not, I tell you what it's not gonna be is leaves.
• 33:16
  I couldn't do that, which is just scoop.
• 33:19
  It's just… I don't, I can't.
• 33:22
  How does it always come to this?
• 33:22
  I can't even imagine.
• 33:24
  Yeah, it does always come to leaves.
• 33:25
  I will say I've done that- All roads lead back to poop, I guess.
• 33:27
  I don't know.
• 33:27
  Is it hard or soft?
• 33:29
  See?
• 33:29
  I'll tell you what.
• 33:30
  And you can't really predict that either.
• 33:31
  I'm gonna tell you what.
• 33:32
  I have a story.
• 33:33
  And it's not very long, but when I was in high school there's a, um, and it's
• 33:38
  very fitting because in Springdale, like kinda where we live, like the sewer plant
• 33:42
  is like, like really close to like some of the nicest neighborhoods, whatever.
• 33:46
  Oh.
• 33:47
  I know, it's crazy.
• 33:48
  And so like me, Bridget, Jeff, that is, this was like high school Jeff era.
• 33:52
  We were playing out, playing, we were in high school.
• 33:55
  We're like walking through the creek or whatever and the urge hit me, and
• 33:58
  I was like, "I'm not gonna make it." And so yeah, I went behind a bush.
• 34:02
  Probably one of the best- Yeah?
• 34:05
  movements I've ever had in my life.
• 34:06
  Like satisfying?
• 34:07
  Yeah, and I think it's because of the squatting.
• 34:10
  S- there is something to the- Yeah … the position, yeah.
• 34:14
  Yep.
• 34:15
  Uh, but I obviously, I, I mean, I can't tell you what I used to- Yeah … wipe.
• 34:20
  I just- I know that I did, I just don't remember what it was.
• 34:23
  Probably a- Yeah
• 34:24
  probably a leaf.
• 34:25
  Could you imagine it was like a poison ivy leaf?
• 34:28
  I mean, that- Is that your fear?
• 34:29
  … that's a fear.
• 34:30
  Yeah.
• 34:30
  That's a fear, for sure, 'cause I don't know the plants of the world-
• 34:33
  Like, yeah, I know … enough to know.
• 34:35
  For sure.
• 34:35
  I mean, I think I could recognize poison ivy, however, I would
• 34:40
  be so- That's impressive
• 34:41
  desperate in that point, like I'm in this, I'm in a compromised
• 34:46
  situation, exposed to the world.
• 34:48
  Yeah.
• 34:50
  And I would wanna be, like, I'd probably not be thinking clearly
• 34:54
  and just grab whatever's there.
• 34:55
  And then it's too late, and you gotta go to the doctor for that.
• 34:57
  How embarrassing.
• 34:58
  Oh, you're so right.
• 35:00
  Yeah.
• 35:00
  You would be the laughing stock of- Yeah … they would, like, for the rest of their
• 35:04
  lives, like, when people are like, "What's one of the craziest things you've seen?"
• 35:07
  That would be, you would be their story.
• 35:08
  Booty poison ivy, for sure.
• 35:10
  Booty poison ivy.
• 35:11
  Oh my gosh, the itching.
• 35:12
  Ah.
• 35:13
  Oh, I can't imagine.
• 35:14
  Okay, I also, M- maybe Mark, you can answer this to me, whenever this guy
• 35:19
  gets out of the car, he, like, runs, like, half a mile- Okay … down
• 35:23
  this hill to pee, and I'm thinking- Mm … like, men's urinals, like, you
• 35:28
  can look over this divider and just be like, "Eh." You can see the… So why
• 35:32
  did this man have to run halfway down the hill to, like, keep himself covered?
• 35:36
  So I wrote that down u- under dumb decisions.
• 35:38
  Okay.
• 35:39
  Because I do not understand why he decided to go on a nature hike to go pee.
• 35:44
  Exactly.
• 35:44
  It's a deserted highway.
• 35:46
  Like, open the door f- for some privacy, the car door, like maybe
• 35:49
  the rear car door or something.
• 35:50
  Yeah.
• 35:51
  Stand behind that.
• 35:52
  Because- And then go.
• 35:53
  Like, don't…
• 35:54
  W- well, I don't know why you would ever do that.
• 35:56
  I don't know why you'd run down a hill, go into the, to the trees.
• 36:00
  Right.
• 36:00
  Like, I don't… No, you just go right there by the car.
• 36:02
  'Cause he literally, 'cause it's not even like you have to, like, pull
• 36:04
  your pants, like, all the way down.
• 36:05
  Right.
• 36:05
  Right.
• 36:05
  You're blessed- Yeah
• 36:06
  in that way.
• 36:07
  Exactly.
• 36:07
  I g- no.
• 36:08
  You have it so easy.
• 36:09
  I'm 100%, 100%- So easy … I agree with that.
• 36:13
  I saw that.
• 36:13
  Immediately I was like, "What are you doing?" Yeah.
• 36:16
  Yeah.
• 36:17
  So yeah, I don't know why.
• 36:18
  I know why they did it, it was just one of those things where- I know … set
• 36:21
  it up so that, like, they could get the other guy out or whatever.
• 36:23
  But at- Yeah … at the same time it's, like, that's one of those
• 36:26
  things where I, yes, I like this movie, I thought it was great.
• 36:29
  Yes, agree.
• 36:29
  Yeah.
• 36:29
  But this is one of those times when I see something and I'm like, "You did that
• 36:32
  just to move a plot point, but it is, doesn't make any sense at all." Correct.
• 36:36
  Well, but I don't think he really had to, 'cause I mean, he, he
• 36:39
  could've just gone out of sight.
• 36:41
  I could've- understood going to where it's like if a car drives
• 36:46
  by, you don't necessarily want them to see you just right there.
• 36:51
  I could see you maybe going a couple of trees in, but he did go pretty deep.
• 36:54
  No, yeah.
• 36:54
  But then the, the thing moves so fast.
• 36:58
  Yeah.
• 36:59
  I don't think it was necessary for him to, to have to go that far.
• 37:04
  He like- You know?
• 37:04
  He was also, like, way too calm when he got back and the scene was what it was.
• 37:08
  Oh, yeah.
• 37:09
  All the doors open, lights on, the car's- Honking continuously … yeah.
• 37:14
  Which also doesn't make sense.
• 37:16
  Yeah.
• 37:16
  I don't know.
• 37:18
  I mean, it just, but it added a lot.
• 37:20
  I mean, it made it really scary.
• 37:22
  It would've been less scary, or would it, if the car was just silent?
• 37:26
  Well, I think, like, I don't know, 'cause you know something is wrong.
• 37:32
  And it's clear that there's something out there with him, which obviously it
• 37:35
  would know where he is because it, it was obviously at the car at some point.
• 37:41
  But, like, you know when you're out in the, when you're trying to…
• 37:46
  You feel like you're in a vulnerab- vul- vulnerable position, and then
• 37:49
  there's basically this big siren of, like, "I'm right here"- Oh, yeah
• 37:53
  kind of thing.
• 37:54
  Uh-huh.
• 37:54
  Like, I felt, I was like, dude, get the car horn to stop.
• 37:57
  Yeah.
• 37:57
  I don't know that that, not that that would've really helped, but
• 38:00
  I felt like if it were me in that position, I would want silence
• 38:04
  around me, so also if you could hear something that's coming up around you.
• 38:07
  Mm. Yeah.
• 38:09
  I, it's, I don't know.
• 38:10
  It's just one of, one of those things where I don't under- 'cause, the car
• 38:12
  horn, it- Well, yeah, but this thing is- you activate it with your hand, and- But
• 38:18
  it's supernatural, so it can do- It is.
• 38:19
  Oh, yeah.
• 38:19
  I, I guess it could have done that, but- Yeah … I think it would've
• 38:22
  been scarier to hear if, you know, you're, he's down there peeing- Yeah
• 38:25
  and then hears a few car hon- honks, and maybe, like, a really
• 38:28
  long one or something just to give the idea of something's wrong.
• 38:31
  I need to get back up there.
• 38:33
  Then you get up there, total silence, and all the car- I mean- … doors
• 38:36
  opening and all that stuff.
• 38:37
  Yeah.
• 38:37
  Maybe that's your signal as a viewer of, like, though,
• 38:39
  that this is more than human.
• 38:41
  Maybe.
• 38:42
  So he didn't just get nabbed, 'cause something else that's, uh, more
• 38:47
  weird than that is, has happened.
• 38:50
  Yeah.
• 38:51
  I don't know.
• 38:52
  But I wonder, like, 'cause I guess, did he, he just got, like, yanked
• 38:55
  out of the car but then was, like, up in the trees and then got smashed
• 39:00
  down- Yes … got pulled back up, and then just dumped behind the car.
• 39:06
  Yes.
• 39:07
  And I, I don't know.
• 39:09
  Like-
• 39:11
  Do you go back for… Like, that was a- I wouldn't … that was
• 39:15
  one thing I was thinking of.
• 39:15
  I don't think I would have.
• 39:17
  I, I don't know.
• 39:19
  I'd be so torn, 'cause, like, we're the only you're the only person I would
• 39:21
  be traveling with like that really.
• 39:25
  And so I'm like, I don't know that I could just leave.
• 39:27
  I don't know.
• 39:28
  I was so, like, this- I feel like this movie was the first movie
• 39:31
  that we, like, watched where I was, like, actually scared watching it.
• 39:35
  Yeah.
• 39:36
  So yeah, I, I think I would've… Well, I guess, I guess it does
• 39:39
  depend on who I was traveling with.
• 39:42
  Oh, yeah.
• 39:42
  'Cause yeah, I don't think I could just leave Alek.
• 39:44
  Oh, I would, I would go back for you.
• 39:46
  Aw.
• 39:47
  That's really sweet.
• 39:49
  I'd be ready to fight whatever it is.
• 39:50
  Yeah.
• 39:51
  Well- I'd be mad.
• 39:52
  I'd be real mad.
• 39:52
  Bet a lot of good that would do you.
• 39:53
  I would be mad.
• 39:54
  No, well, yeah, it wouldn't have done me any good.
• 39:54
  I would- I know I would have ended up with the same fate, but- Yeah.
• 39:57
  Yeah
• 39:57
  I, I would've been really mad, and I would've tried something.
• 39:59
  You would've died fighting.
• 40:00
  Yeah.
• 40:01
  Yeah.
• 40:01
  Yeah.
• 40:02
  I hated like, yeah, just like all of the, the trees, like the branches snapping.
• 40:07
  And then that, the jump scare where he, like comes through
• 40:10
  the windshield, that got me.
• 40:13
  Where the guy got dropped through the windshield?
• 40:14
  Yeah, yeah.
• 40:16
  What was, like your big jump scare, when he's, like driving?
• 40:20
  He's driving, and then it's in- Yeah … the car with him?
• 40:22
  Yeah.
• 40:22
  Which Mark was like, "That was in the trailer." I'm like, "Yeah, I
• 40:24
  know, but I had forgotten that it was in the trailer." But, like that
• 40:27
  whole sequence is like so intense.
• 40:30
  Mm-hmm.
• 40:30
  And like him, like continuous, like him driving and then it's
• 40:33
  like he's, like in a loop- Yeah
• 40:35
  of like the, the guy is just standing there.
• 40:38
  That was really creepy.
• 40:40
  Yeah.
• 40:40
  And for a while I thought it was, like two different people, like the man standing
• 40:44
  out and then, like him being in the car.
• 40:46
  I thought, like that was like a woman.
• 40:48
  Um, it took me a minute.
• 40:49
  But yeah, m- such a strong beginning, honestly.
• 40:52
  Yeah.
• 40:53
  I mean, it did not waste any… It was just high anxiety from the beginning.
• 40:59
  Yeah, yeah.
• 41:00
  I am glad that you guys liked this movie, 'cause I, I really liked it too.
• 41:04
  Yeah.
• 41:05
  Okay, so then it, And I thought the way they tied the two together, like
• 41:09
  this, like these two poor gentlemen, and then, uh, Maddie and Tyler, I
• 41:14
  thought that tied together so well.
• 41:16
  Yes.
• 41:16
  I was really impressed with that.
• 41:18
  'Cause it starts o- like, that happens, and you're like, "What the heck, like
• 41:22
  just happened?" And then, uh, Maddie is, like packing up their really cute
• 41:27
  apartment and like, they're, you know, obviously like a couple going out
• 41:32
  on, like this new van life adventure.
• 41:34
  There's like some mishaps, what he proposes, and she's, like kind of- Yeah
• 41:39
  on the fence about it.
• 41:40
  It w- yeah, it was strange.
• 41:41
  I mean, she said yes, and but they got interrupted by the guy.
• 41:45
  Oh.
• 41:45
  The neighborhood watch guy.
• 41:46
  Yeah, neighborhood watch.
• 41:46
  That also scared me.
• 41:47
  Um, yeah.
• 41:48
  The knocking.
• 41:48
  There were a lot of jump scares in this.
• 41:49
  There were.
• 41:50
  And I was thinking about how I don't think that a movie has gotten me with this many
• 41:55
  jump scares in a very, very long time.
• 41:57
  Yeah.
• 41:57
  And like, Obsession was scary in a way that was just anxiety
• 42:03
  and dread the whole time.
• 42:05
  Yeah.
• 42:05
  But this was a different kind of scary.
• 42:07
  Like, this was actually just like, ugh, jump, jumpy scary, which that didn't
• 42:11
  have, so it was a… I thought both of them were very good- Yeah … newer
• 42:14
  scary movies in different ways.
• 42:16
  Yeah.
• 42:16
  But yes, and then like, so she's driving down the road, looking at the,
• 42:23
  the ring, and I'm like, "Ma'am, you're driving a whole-" Oh … land yacht.
• 42:26
  Please pay attention.
• 42:27
  Yes.
• 42:29
  And then kind of like got on her you know, almost got in a wreck
• 42:33
  or whatever, and then you realized that it was… Was his name Lucas?
• 42:39
  The guy at the beginning?
• 42:41
  I think- … that drove past her.
• 42:42
  But at that point- I think it- … he had already… Well- So at that point,
• 42:49
  when she's driving and looking at the ring, it is just the one dude.
• 42:55
  Yes.
• 42:55
  She doesn't know, she didn't see the thing until later.
• 42:58
  Correct.
• 42:58
  Yes.
• 42:59
  But I'm trying to think, like in the timeline, it had already
• 43:03
  jumped into the car with him.
• 43:05
  Yeah.
• 43:05
  And then it was like-
• 43:11
  So I guess they must have already been ahead of him of the two of those
• 43:14
  guys, 'cause he was flying in the car.
• 43:18
  So- Yeah … it popped into the car, and then I guess he was
• 43:22
  gassing it, driving away maybe?
• 43:25
  'Cause it looks like he was, like- Yeah … trying to, like, fight it off, I guess.
• 43:28
  Yeah.
• 43:30
  So but that's interesting, because I guess if…
• 43:33
  Well, but if they were ahead of the two guys, then, like- Mm-hmm … they
• 43:36
  would've, they wouldn't have seen, like, the initial- … like, scene with,
• 43:39
  like, his friend in the road and- Yeah, and he had s- he had gassed it because
• 43:44
  he was nervous while it was- Yeah, like, on the side of the road … so
• 43:48
  I guess maybe they were already ahead, and he happened to catch up with them.
• 43:51
  Yeah.
• 43:52
  So I mean, it must have been like, they weren't very far though- Uh-huh … truly.
• 43:56
  Yeah.
• 43:56
  That's interesting because yeah, they must have, like, not been very far.
• 44:02
  Because I mean, truly though, like, that whole, like, sequence of, like,
• 44:05
  him going to the bathroom- It's a couple minutes … was, like, maybe,
• 44:09
  like, yeah, two or three minutes.
• 44:10
  We did kind of skim over the reason that they were on that road is
• 44:15
  because they're, like, at the beach, and then she's "There's this really
• 44:18
  good barbecue place." Oh, yeah.
• 44:20
  And I'm thinking, barbecue's never worth it.
• 44:22
  No.
• 44:22
  I'm gonna tell you right now.
• 44:23
  It's not.
• 44:23
  Barbecue's never worth it.
• 44:24
  And then what was it?
• 44:25
  Like, they missed their reservation at, like- Yep … a glacier or,
• 44:29
  like, wherever they were going.
• 44:30
  No, it was a hot springs.
• 44:31
  Oh, yeah, 'cause that's where he was gonna propose.
• 44:33
  Yeah, much more romantic.
• 44:35
  And then they get, like, on the detour.
• 44:38
  Oh, that's right.
• 44:38
  So then they found the neighborhood to stop in.
• 44:42
  Oh, and then they get kicked out.
• 44:43
  Yes, 'cause he, that was when he realized he had to change his plan- Yes … 'cause
• 44:48
  he couldn't propose where he wanted to.
• 44:50
  Yes.
• 44:50
  Yeah.
• 44:50
  That's right.
• 44:50
  And so I had, like, made a thought.
• 44:52
  I was like an advertisement's gonna come up for an even better hot springs-
• 44:56
  Yeah … that takes them to the road.
• 44:57
  And then it's a hotel, and I was like, darn, it's a hotel.
• 45:00
  Yeah.
• 45:01
  'Cause they were wanting the hotel.
• 45:02
  But I'm, like, thinking, like, what city are you in?
• 45:06
  Like, this hotel's, like, a whole trek away.
• 45:09
  Like, I'm s- and it- Yeah, I don't know … but it's, it's for the plot.
• 45:11
  But I was trying to channel my inner Beth and Mark with these critical questions.
• 45:17
  Like- Well, that, that did bug me when they were like, "Okay.
• 45:20
  Well, yeah, there's a hotel that's not very far from here." And then
• 45:22
  they're, like, on this highway in the middle of nowhere- This is where
• 45:26
  they are … all of a sudden trying to get- Uh-huh … to this hotel.
• 45:27
  I'm like, you just said it was close.
• 45:30
  Yeah.
• 45:30
  Well, I mean- And now you're… I- F- 30, 45 minutes I would call
• 45:36
  close, and you could get into some-
• 45:41
  Some woodsy places through that, I would think That's true
• 45:45
  'Cause you're looking- Yeah
• 45:46
  for, at that point, the fastest route, and sometimes that takes you
• 45:48
  through some sketchy places Yeah I don't know, but- it did throw me
• 45:53
  off, though, whenever they said that.
• 45:54
  And- Yeah … I was like, "Wait, I, I thought she said it was like
• 45:58
  close by or something." Yeah, and he said- They made it sound so close.
• 46:01
  They did.
• 46:01
  And like- Yeah … close for me would be like less than like 20 minutes, I think.
• 46:06
  Yeah, yeah.
• 46:07
  Hmm.
• 46:07
  But, but yeah, I had like an all caps, like, "Girl, get that ring in a second."
• 46:11
  Yeah, for real, like this is not the time to contemplate- Not the time … whether
• 46:14
  or not you made the right decision.
• 46:15
  Yes.
• 46:16
  And then I said Sharon would've come out, like when that
• 46:20
  car was trying to pass them.
• 46:21
  Mm-hmm.
• 46:21
  'Cause if it's like hitting like the side of their car, oh, I would've
• 46:25
  been- Yep … I would've been pissed.
• 46:27
  I would not have stopped if I had seen that accident, I don't think.
• 46:31
  I probably wouldn't have, but- I don't know.
• 46:32
  I would be hesitant to 'cause it's the middle of the night.
• 46:36
  There's nobody around.
• 46:38
  But then that's also why I think maybe I would have stopped, 'cause
• 46:42
  who else is gonna help them?
• 46:44
  Yeah, you're a good person.
• 46:45
  But also,
• 46:48
  I would've gotten in the van.
• 46:50
  I would've gotten back in the van a lot faster than she did.
• 46:52
  Oh, yeah, she took her time.
• 46:53
  But at that point, I don't think it matters.
• 46:55
  I don't know what the heck was going- No, it was too late.
• 46:56
  Yeah.
• 46:56
  But still, and then she like, you saw something over there.
• 47:00
  Like, she saw the figure, and she was like, "I thought I saw something." Yeah.
• 47:03
  And he shined the light.
• 47:04
  And then she just gets ba- this is, it goes back to urban legend again.
• 47:07
  If I'm getting in the car, even in the broad daylight,
• 47:10
  I'm looking in the backseat.
• 47:11
  And now you thought you saw something- … and you're just gonna
• 47:15
  get back in the van, where there's a ton of space behind you- Yeah
• 47:18
  and you're not even gonna check?
• 47:19
  Yeah.
• 47:20
  Absolutely not.
• 47:21
  No.
• 47:21
  No, we're checking everything.
• 47:23
  And I would've been like fleeing back to the car as soon as
• 47:26
  she saw him like get grabbed.
• 47:27
  Yes.
• 47:28
  Back in the car.
• 47:29
  And I'm not gonna let you go.
• 47:30
  That thing has c- he's been sucked back into the car.
• 47:33
  You don't get to go over there now.
• 47:34
  Yeah.
• 47:34
  Oh, yeah, and just sit in the front seat with him.
• 47:36
  Crazy.
• 47:37
  That was also crazy.
• 47:39
  Yeah.
• 47:40
  And then the airbag.
• 47:42
  Oh, that was gruesome.
• 47:43
  The airbag did him like Freaky Nicki did Sarah- … with that brick.
• 47:46
  I thought that too.
• 47:50
  I was like whoa.
• 47:51
  I remember I was like dang.
• 47:53
  Yeah.
• 47:55
  Is that realistic?
• 47:56
  Brutal.
• 47:56
  If a airbag hits you like that?
• 47:58
  Is it just because- I don't think so … he was leaned so close to it?
• 48:01
  He was also pretty beat up.
• 48:03
  But that thing, like took his skin off.
• 48:05
  Yeah.
• 48:05
  I mean, like you could see all the- Like his eyeball and everything.
• 48:09
  Yeah.
• 48:09
  No, I don't think.
• 48:09
  Yeah, I don't, I don't think it would do that.
• 48:10
  I think it might give him, give you a black eye or something, but.
• 48:13
  I mean, I think it will break a nose or something like that.
• 48:16
  Yeah.
• 48:16
  I know airbags will.
• 48:18
  The impact can- Yeah … do stuff like that.
• 48:19
  I don't think it can take your face off.
• 48:21
  Yeah, that was intense.
• 48:22
  I would think that's a safety issue.
• 48:24
  They probably, the crash test dum- dummies would probably- Yeah … catch that one.
• 48:29
  Where their head just like flies like- Yeah … 10 feet back.
• 48:32
  Yeah, that was crazy.
• 48:34
  Um, let's see.
• 48:37
  I had like put, like 'cause I think there's still, like I think the dude's
• 48:41
  like he just sat there for a second.
• 48:43
  Yeah.
• 48:44
  And I was like, "That dude is dead. Like get on your way." Uh-huh.
• 48:47
  Get on your way.
• 48:48
  It's funny 'cause I put, "Oh my gosh, the evil lady's in the van."
• 48:51
  I thought it was a lady for a second.
• 48:53
  'Cause of the long hair, I think.
• 48:54
  Yeah.
• 48:55
  And then the cops let them leave so fast.
• 48:58
  I'm like okay- True … this person, there is a huge, the carnage that is
• 49:03
  in the front seat with that young man.
• 49:05
  Yeah.
• 49:06
  And they're just gonna be like, "Yeah, seems legit.
• 49:08
  You just stumbled upon an accident.
• 49:10
  You're free to go." Yeah.
• 49:11
  Like this man's whole face is off.
• 49:12
  It's not realistic.
• 49:14
  I know.
• 49:14
  You probably wanna look into these people.
• 49:16
  I mean, they're, they should be suspects.
• 49:18
  Like- I would think so … even though we know they're innocent.
• 49:19
  But they're like, "All right, be on your way." But do you think
• 49:22
  the cop got followed after that?
• 49:24
  No.
• 49:25
  I don't think so.
• 49:25
  Did the cop stopped?
• 49:26
  No, 'cause they stopped first.
• 49:28
  If once they s- the way I took it is like once they stopped, that was it.
• 49:32
  Yeah, he had marked them by that point.
• 49:33
  They were like chosen.
• 49:35
  So it was just, so I guess, I wonder if he only marks one at a time.
• 49:39
  I don't know.
• 49:39
  Mm. But, It probably doesn't.
• 49:41
  You- people probably don't usually live as long as they lived, 'cause
• 49:44
  those two guys were gone- That's what Diane said … like instantly.
• 49:46
  I mean, instantly.
• 49:47
  Yeah.
• 49:47
  Yeah.
• 49:48
  Yeah.
• 49:48
  Yeah, that's true.
• 49:48
  And all those people on that board that were missing.
• 49:51
  Mm, you think they were gotten to by him?
• 49:53
  Yeah, 'cause she pulled up one of the pictures and there was a, the m- the
• 49:58
  image of the man with the three lines.
• 49:59
  Ooh, yes.
• 50:00
  You know what that made me think of?
• 50:01
  You talking about, like, you finding the Slender Man.
• 50:04
  Yes, it… I thought about that too.
• 50:05
  Oh, my gosh.
• 50:06
  Get out of my brain.
• 50:07
  Yeah.
• 50:07
  That's crazy.
• 50:09
  So yeah, and then there's, like, the three claw marks on their van.
• 50:12
  Mm. So, like, yeah, they're marked.
• 50:14
  Um, I think it's, like, the next day, like, kind of like the
• 50:16
  demonic stuff, like the flies, the rotten fruit in her, in their van.
• 50:22
  Yeah … yeah, and then they just, like, pull up to this, what was it, like, van.
• 50:25
  What was it?
• 50:26
  Burning Van- Yeah … was, like, the name of that little camp that they're at.
• 50:30
  I thought Diane's whole character was interesting.
• 50:34
  I would've liked to, I don't know.
• 50:36
  I think, like, the the lore was very fascinating and my, I think
• 50:40
  it could've done a little bit more, like- Oh, with the hobo code?
• 50:43
  Yes.
• 50:44
  And I, I wonder- I wonder if that's real.
• 50:46
  I know.
• 50:46
  It's just kinda- Okay.
• 50:46
  So I had that get- Did you look it up?
• 50:48
  I did look that up.
• 50:49
  Oh, amazing.
• 50:50
  Um, because I was curious.
• 50:52
  I was like, "Oh, this is really cool that they're using this. Uh, it'll be
• 50:55
  even better if it's actually real." Yeah.
• 50:57
  So the, uh, it's hard to really nail down, because there are some sources that
• 51:03
  appear to say that it is, but then- Okay
• 51:05
  I'm gonna go with the Historic Graffiti Society.
• 51:09
  They're very credible.
• 51:10
  I think that these guys would probably know best about markings.
• 51:16
  Yeah.
• 51:16
  And so according to them, there's no actual evidence- Okay … other than
• 51:22
  it was something that was romanticized by newspapers a long time ago.
• 51:26
  And, 'cause they, they'll go they broke it down to, like, okay, look at what
• 51:29
  some of these symbols, quote, "mean," and it's, like, just some ridiculous stuff.
• 51:34
  Okay.
• 51:34
  Now, the three marks, the, not safe, that is one of them.
• 51:39
  Oh.
• 51:39
  So of the lore of hobo code, that is legit.
• 51:44
  I don't like that.
• 51:45
  So the three marks- Yeah … is- Yeah … it means this is,
• 51:48
  or this is not a safe place.
• 51:50
  Yeah.
• 51:50
  For just any number of reasons.
• 51:52
  Yeah.
• 51:53
  Okay.
• 51:54
  So th- then, so th- from what little- Gosh, now if I ever see that, I'm
• 51:57
  gonna be like, "Get out of here now."
• 51:59
  Well, I don't… Yeah.
• 51:59
  Yeah.
• 52:00
  Yeah.
• 52:00
  So what, what little, little research I did- Okay … it does appear to be
• 52:04
  that it is something that is more on the, the side of lore than actual truth-
• 52:08
  Yeah … because there's no… But then they did say, now, it could be that
• 52:12
  maybe this stuff was, if it was real, maybe it was, like, made with chalk or
• 52:17
  something that wasn't very permanent- Mm
• 52:19
  because they just don't have any You know, any evidence or any actual
• 52:25
  pictures of these specific symbols that you can find and these guides.
• 52:29
  Yeah.
• 52:29
  Yeah.
• 52:30
  I wonder, speaking of the Appalach- Appalachian Mountains again, like, I
• 52:35
  wonder if there are, like, codes in there.
• 52:40
  We need a movie on that.
• 52:42
  Yeah, I think the rule over there is just don't be outside at night.
• 52:45
  Yeah.
• 52:46
  Don't listen to any noises.
• 52:48
  If you hear something, don't- Ignored it.
• 52:49
  Yeah.
• 52:50
  Oh, I- Close your windows.
• 52:51
  I remember one that was like if you hear your name called, like, don't- Yeah,
• 52:54
  don't turn around … don't respond.
• 52:56
  Yep.
• 52:56
  Don't, don't go looking- Yeah Oh my gosh, that- Or something like
• 52:58
  that … it's so spooky … it's creepy.
• 53:00
  My TikTok will, like, somehow every single time I'm like, "We'll, we'll
• 53:04
  land on that," and then I'm like, "Okay, I need to, I need to get off
• 53:06
  of this." I'm sure there are some.
• 53:08
  We should look for some.
• 53:09
  Yeah.
• 53:10
  Some movies that take place out there.
• 53:11
  Um, but also, I just, like, felt, like, such dread whenever Diane was like, like
• 53:16
  grabbed her off to the side and was like, "Now you haven't stopped, have you?"
• 53:20
  I was like, oh gosh, like this is not a good thing.
• 53:24
  But then I thought it was funny how I was like, she's gone for five minutes, and
• 53:27
  then Tyler's got, like, the side of the van fixed with, like, the, the plumber.
• 53:30
  Yeah.
• 53:31
  I thought that was funny.
• 53:33
  Yeah.
• 53:34
  Um, who tells them, it's, like, the celebrity guy that, like, gyms
• 53:39
  are, like, their new best friend?
• 53:41
  Yes.
• 53:42
  So that whole gym parking lot scene really freaked me out.
• 53:46
  Yes.
• 53:46
  But also, I was so frustrated with her- Yeah … because for one, I probably
• 53:52
  wouldn't have gone to the van by myself.
• 53:53
  And then she walks past the car of those guys.
• 53:58
  Oh, yeah.
• 53:59
  Which that's, you're already kind of like, okay girl survival 101.
• 54:04
  She's distracted.
• 54:05
  She's got, like, headphones in.
• 54:06
  Yes.
• 54:06
  Like, you can't do that.
• 54:08
  Yeah.
• 54:08
  It's nighttime and all of that stuff, and then, like, you think maybe the
• 54:13
  threat is those guys, and they drive off.
• 54:16
  And then, like, Mark didn't notice it at first 'cause I I, like, had
• 54:19
  a ph- like a physical reaction when, you know, like, she was,
• 54:22
  she had finally gotten to the van.
• 54:24
  It panned around, and then when it came back around, the van had moved.
• 54:28
  Oh, I hated that.
• 54:29
  And I was like, oh my gosh, and he thought, 'cause he
• 54:31
  was looking for the guy.
• 54:32
  Yeah, well, I was, I was taking notes, and then I looked up- Yeah … and I
• 54:35
  missed the part where the van moved.
• 54:36
  And so I thought you saw the guy- No
• 54:38
  and so then I started looking for him.
• 54:39
  I was like, "Run it back," and then we watched it again, and I'm like, "See?
• 54:41
  The van moved." Yeah.
• 54:42
  And then it happened again.
• 54:43
  Yeah.
• 54:43
  And so I'm like, okay, whatever is happening, 'cause by this
• 54:47
  point, had she seen the guy yet?
• 54:50
  Not yet.
• 54:51
  She's in the- Up close, no … she's in the, yeah.
• 54:53
  Right.
• 54:54
  Yeah.
• 54:54
  And so but, like, something weird is happening, and it continues
• 54:58
  to draw you further and further away from the door of the gym.
• 55:01
  Turn around.
• 55:02
  Get your tail back into the building where there are a lot of people.
• 55:05
  Yeah.
• 55:07
  But then she got in the van and I was like, oh my gosh.
• 55:11
  Like- Right … that was such a terrible- You're, where you're like-
• 55:13
  decision … a sitting duck.
• 55:15
  Yes.
• 55:15
  It's not that, and- Covered up windows, so you can't even see
• 55:19
  if something's approaching.
• 55:20
  But in my mind I was like, no, I would not have undone like the, the shades.
• 55:26
  No, probably not.
• 55:27
  But I guess- But I wouldn't be there in the first place.
• 55:28
  Yeah.
• 55:29
  I don't know what I would've done in that situation.
• 55:30
  It also really scared me, like how she could hear like the
• 55:33
  footsteps running behind her.
• 55:35
  Ooh, yeah.
• 55:36
  Like running behind her, and then there's like nobody.
• 55:39
  Yeah.
• 55:39
  That, that was such a scary scene.
• 55:41
  Mm-hmm.
• 55:42
  And then I hated like her like looking in the iPad and like you see him standing.
• 55:47
  And then I almost, I literally almost peed- … whenever he's
• 55:51
  like right in front of the camera.
• 55:53
  Uh-huh.
• 55:53
  That scared me so bad.
• 55:55
  And then she's just like texting.
• 55:57
  Yeah.
• 55:57
  I'm like, I would be on the phone.
• 55:59
  You're like, you're calling.
• 56:00
  Right.
• 56:00
  What are you doing?
• 56:01
  You're driving the car.
• 56:02
  Go.
• 56:03
  Yeah.
• 56:03
  Go.
• 56:03
  Pull up to right at the front of the door.
• 56:05
  Yes, ma'am.
• 56:06
  At the least.
• 56:07
  Yeah.
• 56:08
  Oh, it just, I hated it so much.
• 56:11
  Yeah.
• 56:11
  She was, and I think there were a lot of times where I think they made the
• 56:17
  decision where you're like, oh, okay.
• 56:19
  Normally in a horror movie They would not have made the good decision.
• 56:24
  Like, later on when she was like, "No, we're not splitting up," they're like-
• 56:28
  toward the end, I'm like, "Okay, but then like sh- at the beginning here, and then
• 56:32
  she didn't tell him for a long time, like she had thought she saw something way
• 56:36
  back- Yeah … when they stopped, and she had been having this weird feeling and all
• 56:40
  this stuff and, and then he believed her.
• 56:42
  He was like, "I believe you that you saw the, or you saw something."
• 56:45
  Yeah.
• 56:46
  And n- normally in a movie like this, the person is like discrediting them or
• 56:50
  whatever, so that was kinda refreshing for it to be a little bit different.
• 56:53
  Yeah.
• 56:54
  But yeah, she was frustrating me hardcore in that sequence.
• 56:57
  But I was also like, that was, I wrote in my notes on, when
• 57:00
  it, the thing burned his hand.
• 57:02
  Ah, uh-huh.
• 57:03
  I was like, "Get a million of those- Yeah … right now." Yeah, we haven't
• 57:06
  talked about that yet, St. Christopher.
• 57:08
  Mm-hmm.
• 57:09
  'Cause she, what is it that she has, like, when they get started?
• 57:13
  It's like an SO, it's like a little pocket SOS thing.
• 57:15
  Yeah, I think so.
• 57:16
  A little GPS phone or something?
• 57:17
  Something like that, and she was like, "I think I'm gonna trust
• 57:20
  this," and he was like, "Well, then I guess you're going to hell.
• 57:22
  You have to have faith in St. Christopher.
• 57:23
  He's like the patron saint of travelers." Yeah.
• 57:25
  And then I guess that was the f- 'cause that's the first indication, 'cause
• 57:31
  she was just reaching for anything.
• 57:32
  She was just kinda desperate.
• 57:34
  Yeah.
• 57:34
  And it happened to burn him, and you're like, "Oh, shoot,
• 57:37
  there's something to that- Yeah
• 57:38
  that works." And then, like, you get more of the story later on.
• 57:43
  Who gave, was it Diane, when they finally found her, that
• 57:45
  gave her all those details?
• 57:46
  I think so.
• 57:47
  Yeah, it's- Or did they find that online?
• 57:48
  I think- She's the one telling them about the church … 'cause she found the book.
• 57:53
  Yeah.
• 57:54
  She finds the book, but then I wonder if she, like, was on, 'cause
• 57:57
  she, like- She went online for-
• 57:58
  was researching some too … yeah … and then maybe just, like Diane, like-
• 58:01
  Yeah, I can't remember … filled in any gaps … where they got that piece of
• 58:06
  Okay, it all … It escalated so quickly.
• 58:09
  It did, yeah.
• 58:09
  Um, so they … I'm trying to think sequen- sequentially, right?
• 58:13
  So- They were in the gym, and he was like, "I believe you." And then- Well,
• 58:17
  the ti- the point, the moment where he was, like, really a believer- The
• 58:21
  movie … the movie, the movie night out in the woods was also like, "Why
• 58:25
  did you do that?" That was so scary.
• 58:27
  Right.
• 58:27
  You just had this terrible experience.
• 58:29
  She says something's been following you, now let's go sit
• 58:32
  out in the middle of nowhere.
• 58:33
  Where also, Diane had given her specific rules.
• 58:37
  She was like- Yeah … don't, at the beginning, she was like, "Don't stop,
• 58:41
  don't drive on the quiet roads, and don't drive at night." Now let's go
• 58:44
  camp out on the quiet roads at night?
• 58:45
  Yeah.
• 58:46
  Really?
• 58:47
  I know.
• 58:47
  After you've had this experience.
• 58:48
  Yeah.
• 58:49
  I was wondering if, like, they were, like if they would've been safe outside
• 58:53
  of the van, because I feel like after some of that, they go to a hotel.
• 58:57
  We see them in a hotel and- Yeah … I guess they're okay.
• 59:00
  So it's like, is this thing just tied to them driving in that van?
• 59:04
  I think it's on those roads.
• 59:07
  Because also in the nighttime when they were in the ho- like, when
• 59:13
  they were in the hotel, when they were in the diner, they were fine.
• 59:16
  When they were at the truck stop in the evening, they were okay.
• 59:20
  Yeah.
• 59:22
  I think it's just when you're alone.
• 59:25
  On the, on the road at night On the road at night yeah.
• 59:28
  Yeah, I was like, are they about to break up right now?
• 59:30
  Because that's like when they're watching the movie- … and like Maddie
• 59:33
  wants to go back to a normal life.
• 59:35
  Tyler wants to like continue the van life.
• 59:37
  And then, yeah, like you start to see like something happen in like
• 59:40
  the middle of the projector screen.
• 59:41
  And like Tyler goes to look at it, and it's like you can see like the,
• 59:46
  like the silhouette of like someone like poking through the screen.
• 59:49
  Seriously, I was so freaked out.
• 59:53
  And I was watching this Saturday night while everybody was at that party, and
• 59:57
  I was here with Jay, and I, I was like, "I am not enjoying this right now."
• 1:00:02
  'Cause then he like pulls it back, and then there's nobody there.
• 1:00:06
  Yeah.
• 1:00:06
  And then, yeah, it starts getting all crazy.
• 1:00:09
  Yeah.
• 1:00:10
  And like that was a weird conversation to have right there
• 1:00:14
  in the middle of that movie.
• 1:00:15
  Like, before y'all sold everything- … and said, "Okay, we're gonna live this
• 1:00:22
  van life," did they not talk about how he wanted it to be permanent and she
• 1:00:27
  thought it was maybe temporary, or what?
• 1:00:29
  'Cause that was very much like a- That would be the rational
• 1:00:33
  thing to do … I, I don't know.
• 1:00:34
  That was a, it was odd to me.
• 1:00:35
  'Cause she- Yeah … she was like- I- … "I don't think I really wanna do
• 1:00:39
  this." I took it as I think she wanted to do that with him because he wanted to.
• 1:00:47
  But then after I think, what, six weeks is the time- Yeah
• 1:00:50
  that has gone by, and then she's like, "Yeah, I can't do this." And that's,
• 1:00:55
  that's a reasonable thing to like… And to me, you know, he's, he's in
• 1:00:58
  there saying, "Well, we, we talked about this, and, and this is, you know,
• 1:01:02
  this is what we decided." And, dude is so obsessed with this van life.
• 1:01:06
  Earlier he's, he's in that parking lot full of vans, which…
• 1:01:10
  And he just goes, "Oh, man, look at this. This is so great." You
• 1:01:13
  know, like he's looking at a, a, some scenic Mountain View, but he's
• 1:01:16
  looking at a field full of vans.
• 1:01:17
  Yeah.
• 1:01:18
  Yeah.
• 1:01:18
  And, I don't know.
• 1:01:19
  It's just one of those things where I don't, I don't understand how
• 1:01:21
  he wasn't like, "Yeah, I get it.
• 1:01:24
  You know, maybe you've, you did six weeks of this, and then you figured
• 1:01:27
  out that you don't like that." Yeah.
• 1:01:29
  Like, that's, that's such a reasonable- That's a good valiant
• 1:01:32
  try … expectation, you know?
• 1:01:33
  Yeah.
• 1:01:33
  Yeah.
• 1:01:34
  Yeah.
• 1:01:34
  Well, and they kept talking about their pasts, right?
• 1:01:37
  And she was like, "I want stability."
• 1:01:41
  She's like, "I didn't have that grow- you know, I didn't have that growing up.
• 1:01:45
  That's the one thing I want." And he said, "Well, I had that, and it was not
• 1:01:50
  all it's cracked up to be, so what's your problem?" But like do… They had
• 1:01:56
  never had that talk about what they want.
• 1:01:59
  Like, if, if all you want is stability and security- Yeah
• 1:02:03
  because you didn't have that, I would think that agreeing to do
• 1:02:07
  this for any amount of time really would be… Like, we would've had to
• 1:02:14
  talk about that before it happened.
• 1:02:16
  'Cause she wasn't wor- neither of them were working, right?
• 1:02:20
  No, they were, they're working I think.
• 1:02:22
  Yeah.
• 1:02:23
  'Cause he said, "So and so called me from my old job and said I
• 1:02:25
  could do it completely remotely- Oh
• 1:02:27
  so we could do this forever if we wanted to." Yeah.
• 1:02:29
  So maybe they were, like, on, like, a sabbatical or something.
• 1:02:33
  Maybe.
• 1:02:34
  I mean, I don't know what that life is like, but- I, yeah, couldn't tell you.
• 1:02:37
  Yeah.
• 1:02:37
  To have that, to not be tethered to a… Oh my gosh, that would be so nice.
• 1:02:42
  But then, like, I'll spend, like, if this last extended, like, Labor Day weekend,
• 1:02:46
  I think we were home, like, a majority of the time, and, like, I was starting to
• 1:02:50
  kinda go stir crazy I think a little bit.
• 1:02:53
  I have to get out and see other people sometimes.
• 1:02:57
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:02:58
  But I do have periods where I'm like, "I could just lock away as long as
• 1:03:05
  you're there- Mm … and just be like- Yeah … I don't care what…
• 1:03:10
  I can disappear." That would be fun.
• 1:03:12
  Good, yeah.
• 1:03:12
  But then I get tired of it, then I'm like, "I got to get outta here." Yeah.
• 1:03:15
  Like, when I had COVID and strep for a while, and you know, at the time
• 1:03:18
  when you had to, like, quarantine for long periods of time- … I was
• 1:03:21
  starting to get a little- Stir crazy?
• 1:03:24
  Yeah, for sure.
• 1:03:24
  Yeah.
• 1:03:25
  Um, let's see.
• 1:03:28
  So they finally get back into the van after, like, seeing this guy, like,
• 1:03:33
  play with them basically in the woods, and then they don't have their keys.
• 1:03:40
  Yeah.
• 1:03:40
  And he, like, it was so, like, it was really creepy how it
• 1:03:44
  was just hanging from a branch.
• 1:03:46
  It was just like, it was, like, a toying him.
• 1:03:48
  Yeah.
• 1:03:48
  Like- It's a trap.
• 1:03:49
  Like, "This is what you want?" Yeah, I literally put, "It's a trap." I said,
• 1:03:51
  "Bro, grab the keys and run." Run.
• 1:03:53
  Like, why we looking around?
• 1:03:55
  'Cause, like, didn't the d- the demon get, like, right in his face too?
• 1:03:58
  Yeah, it was kinda behind him.
• 1:04:00
  Yeah.
• 1:04:00
  'Cause, like, it was, like, a stump- … that was sort of in the
• 1:04:03
  shape of a person- Yeah … that he had put the light over a couple
• 1:04:07
  times, and it wasn't, it was a stump.
• 1:04:09
  But then he got the keys, and they turned around again, and it was the guy.
• 1:04:13
  Ugh, that was, I hated that.
• 1:04:16
  And so then at one point, I was like, "Are they safe outside the van?"
• 1:04:19
  Like, it just seemed like as long as they, if they weren't driving, they were fine.
• 1:04:24
  No, I think- I think as long as they were by themselves out in the middle
• 1:04:30
  of nowhere, I think they were toast.
• 1:04:32
  Yeah.
• 1:04:34
  When is it… Okay, because is it after this they're, like, trying to find Diane?
• 1:04:41
  Yes.
• 1:04:41
  And then they find her, and then they're, like, talking about, because
• 1:04:46
  I think there's, like, that whole thing with Diane, and then they're
• 1:04:48
  driving, but again, they're driving at night, and then their tire goes flat.
• 1:04:52
  Yes, and that was weird because they had the plan, right- Yeah … of,
• 1:04:57
  like, we're only driving in the day.
• 1:04:58
  They're like, we n- Yeah … we know we need to go to Flagstaff.
• 1:05:01
  But then they, like, blink and it's night, and they're like, "How did
• 1:05:03
  it get to be night?" That's right.
• 1:05:06
  That's right.
• 1:05:07
  It's like they both fell asleep.
• 1:05:09
  It was weird.
• 1:05:10
  Very weird.
• 1:05:11
  Um, 'cause it was already getting… It was kinda dusky, and they're like,
• 1:05:14
  "I think we're gonna make it." And then it's like- I th- … it's dark.
• 1:05:17
  You're right.
• 1:05:18
  So I don't know if they both zoned out or if… Because he can't control, like,
• 1:05:23
  space and time, I don't think, the guy.
• 1:05:26
  I don't know.
• 1:05:27
  I mean, like, I guess that it just goes back to that very first guy, like, was
• 1:05:31
  he in a loop or was this guy just, like- Yeah … following him down the way?
• 1:05:36
  But this is after the whole Diane thing happens, right?
• 1:05:41
  The flat tire was- Or it was after I think the flat tire was before Diane.
• 1:05:46
  I think so.
• 1:05:46
  Okay.
• 1:05:47
  Because, uh- 'Cause he c- They were on their way- Yeah, they're- … to her.
• 1:05:51
  Okay.
• 1:05:52
  They were on their way.
• 1:05:52
  Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 1:05:52
  To that seafood restaurant.
• 1:05:54
  And I remember thinking it was stupid that they, you know, they already knew
• 1:05:57
  and they had already ma- made a decision, "Hey, we're not gonna travel at night."
• 1:06:01
  And then here they are, it's almost night time, "Oh, maybe we should-
• 1:06:04
  Yeah … find a place." They should've pulled over long ago.
• 1:06:06
  And I'm like, "Why are you waiting until now- Yeah … to find a
• 1:06:08
  place?" In the middle of nowhere.
• 1:06:10
  Yeah.
• 1:06:10
  Right.
• 1:06:11
  And then they have a flat tire and then of course, you know,
• 1:06:13
  he goes crawling up underneath.
• 1:06:14
  Mm. Oh.
• 1:06:15
  Yeah.
• 1:06:15
  The, the jacked up thing, which is like- That's, yeah.
• 1:06:17
  He looks so scary.
• 1:06:18
  I was like, "He's gonna get his head crushed. That thing's gonna fall
• 1:06:20
  right on him." I thought so too, but then I was like, okay, it's a van.
• 1:06:24
  So and, and then I was like, okay, maybe if the tire's off it will fall down lower.
• 1:06:28
  But, like, you know, normally you could climb up under a van- That's true
• 1:06:31
  like that.
• 1:06:32
  Like, I was like, it's c- surely it's, it's not gonna crush him.
• 1:06:35
  That's true.
• 1:06:36
  But then maybe, maybe if this is, there's no tire holding it up back there.
• 1:06:40
  Yeah.
• 1:06:40
  'Cause it did scrape his leg pretty good.
• 1:06:42
  Yeah.
• 1:06:42
  But yeah, when he turned around and all of the bolts were gone.
• 1:06:46
  I was like, "Oh, no." S- I know.
• 1:06:48
  This is bad.
• 1:06:49
  And it's like that thing is he let him do all of that, get all of the tire
• 1:06:54
  changed, and then, like, the final step he's like, and then took her.
• 1:06:59
  Yes.
• 1:06:59
  After all that.
• 1:07:00
  But she, I don't, her wandering around.
• 1:07:03
  I know.
• 1:07:04
  Her walking around the van.
• 1:07:05
  I was like, okay, when's he gonna show up?
• 1:07:08
  'cause you know that's gonna happen.
• 1:07:10
  Yeah.
• 1:07:11
  But it was just, it was super freaky.
• 1:07:14
  And then did he dri- he, did he… He put the tire on?
• 1:07:19
  Yeah, he had to put the tire back on.
• 1:07:19
  Yeah.
• 1:07:19
  To hit her.
• 1:07:20
  Oh, that's right, 'cause he did, like, some Fast and Furious-
• 1:07:22
  Yeah … driving skills after that.
• 1:07:24
  And then, you know, he almost hit her.
• 1:07:25
  Well, because it's like, it's like she gets taken out, and then he
• 1:07:30
  drives, and then it sh- goes back to Maddie, and she's, like, waking up.
• 1:07:34
  And she's just on this road, and then she thinks that it's Tyler driving up to
• 1:07:41
  save her, and then it's the actual thing.
• 1:07:42
  But then he's, like, making her, like, do this weird, like, kneeling thing- Yeah
• 1:07:46
  in the middle of the road, which I thought was weird.
• 1:07:48
  And I was like, why are they so special that, like, this demon
• 1:07:52
  is, like, toying with them?
• 1:07:53
  It's like a cat and mouse the whole time.
• 1:07:56
  I don't know, 'cause, like- Well, even Diane, she points that out.
• 1:08:01
  She says normally you don't last this long.
• 1:08:03
  Oh, that's right.
• 1:08:04
  Yeah.
• 1:08:04
  Yeah.
• 1:08:05
  And I think maybe they had made enough okay choices, right?
• 1:08:09
  'Cause Lucas and the other guy, they were just out there.
• 1:08:14
  True, yeah.
• 1:08:14
  They had gotten away, and so I don't know why he did toy with them so much.
• 1:08:18
  But, um, I thought it was about to be, like, super heartbreaking,
• 1:08:24
  'cause I thought- he was gonna b- be the reason that she died.
• 1:08:28
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:08:28
  Like, he was gonna run her over.
• 1:08:30
  Yeah.
• 1:08:30
  So when he didn't, I was like, not disappointed, 'cause then you know, I
• 1:08:35
  didn't want that to happen, but I- it was just not really what I expected.
• 1:08:38
  And I'm like, "Okay, where do you go from here?" Yeah.
• 1:08:40
  Then I thought it was weird that he just let him get her.
• 1:08:43
  Yeah.
• 1:08:44
  That he didn't attack- It- … them both there.
• 1:08:47
  I don't know.
• 1:08:47
  It's like he's getting so much pleasure from the chase.
• 1:08:50
  Yes.
• 1:08:51
  I don't know.
• 1:08:51
  And then they knew when they pulled up to, I was thinking when they pulled up
• 1:08:57
  to Arizona and that other encampment- Mm-hmm … that they found Diane at,
• 1:09:03
  and you know, they were walking up to people, I don't know if those people
• 1:09:06
  could just tell that they had- Hmm
• 1:09:09
  something attached to them.
• 1:09:10
  But then, like it got Diane so fast.
• 1:09:13
  Okay.
• 1:09:13
  And I, to that too- Ah … I was like, okay, so like, we're going to go through
• 1:09:20
  all of these rules, and then immediately we're just gonna start driving at night?
• 1:09:25
  Well, I guess they didn't really have time, because it started
• 1:09:28
  attacking the encampment, right?
• 1:09:31
  So they, even they weren't safe around all those people because it started, like the
• 1:09:35
  wind started blowing and stuff, and she's like, "Well, crap." Yeah, I guess so.
• 1:09:39
  "We gotta do something now." They couldn't just stay.
• 1:09:40
  And they were like telling everybody to get inside and
• 1:09:43
  like lock their doors and stuff.
• 1:09:44
  Yeah.
• 1:09:45
  Yeah, I just was like, what are we doing?
• 1:09:47
  Like, but you're right, like it was starting to get windy.
• 1:09:50
  But yeah, I did not expect her- No … to get … 'Cause this thing like-
• 1:09:56
  Yeah … rips her head off of her neck.
• 1:09:58
  I thought she'd maybe get to lead them pretty close to the church,
• 1:10:01
  which is why, it was like super hopeless, 'cause they were like, "We
• 1:10:04
  have no-" Idea where this church is
• 1:10:06
  idea where this is.
• 1:10:07
  What they, she said it's out in the middle of nowhere, it's off these weird roads.
• 1:10:10
  Yeah.
• 1:10:11
  Um, and so that's when they stopped at the gas station and like, got like every
• 1:10:18
  Saint Christopher medallion that they had.
• 1:10:22
  Some other stuff, I can't remember
• 1:10:27
  And then they just went looking, right?
• 1:10:30
  Yeah, I was trying to look at my notes.
• 1:10:32
  Yeah, they, and they fi- found a, a symbol on a sign or something.
• 1:10:36
  Yeah.
• 1:10:36
  Yeah.
• 1:10:36
  They're driving… Yeah.
• 1:10:38
  'Cause she was like, "You gotta learn how to read the signs." Diane had said that.
• 1:10:42
  And that girl had gotten the hobo code book or with all the signs
• 1:10:47
  in it, so she remembered that
• 1:10:51
  But like, I don't- How did they- I don't know, that sequence was wild.
• 1:10:54
  I'm trying to read 'cause I'm like, oh my gosh, it got Diane.
• 1:10:56
  I said, "My hand's covering my mouth, OMG." And then I thought, okay, well
• 1:11:01
  they should be fine with all the Saint Chr- Christopher coins like hanging in
• 1:11:04
  their van, and then you can see him like- Yeah, those- … pulling these coins
• 1:11:08
  back, like- Wouldn't do a single thing
• 1:11:10
  flinging them out.
• 1:11:10
  Yeah.
• 1:11:11
  Yeah.
• 1:11:12
  I think they were just driving along and they just found a, a go this way symbol.
• 1:11:18
  And then there were more.
• 1:11:19
  Yeah.
• 1:11:20
  And then- In like this field, and then they come across this big old field
• 1:11:24
  with all these like wrapped up bodies.
• 1:11:25
  Yeah.
• 1:11:26
  And they were like, "Is this real? Is this not?"
• 1:11:29
  And I was like, honestly at this point, like these bodies,
• 1:11:31
  they're not getting any deader.
• 1:11:32
  That's what I said.
• 1:11:33
  Like I don't care if it's real or not, just go.
• 1:11:35
  Just floor it, man.
• 1:11:35
  'Cause you're already running on fumes.
• 1:11:38
  Yeah, like you know- They had like no gas left.
• 1:11:40
  Yeah.
• 1:11:40
  You just gotta go.
• 1:11:41
  You just have to.
• 1:11:41
  Shortest distance from A to B. Just- Like and you know this thing is coming for you,
• 1:11:44
  like yeah, what other choice do you have?
• 1:11:45
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:11:45
  You have to floor it.
• 1:11:46
  So- 'Cause at that point he had not pulled Caleb out the van yet, right?
• 1:11:53
  Correct.
• 1:11:53
  He got on the van while they were closer to the church?
• 1:11:56
  Yeah.
• 1:11:57
  So what did I say?
• 1:11:59
  Yeah, they're so close to the church- Caleb, who's Caleb?
• 1:12:01
  I don't know.
• 1:12:01
  Tyler?
• 1:12:01
  I was just gonna let you go with it.
• 1:12:02
  I think it was Caleb.
• 1:12:03
  I don't even know where, where that even came from.
• 1:12:05
  I don't know.
• 1:12:05
  Yeah.
• 1:12:06
  They're so close to the church, the passenger's in the field, and then
• 1:12:09
  yeah, and then he gets thrown out.
• 1:12:11
  And so he's like telling her to keep going.
• 1:12:13
  Yeah.
• 1:12:14
  Um, so she like gets into the church, but then he's like burning
• 1:12:17
  up, but he's like not dying yet.
• 1:12:19
  I was like, how is she gonna kill this thing?
• 1:12:21
  Yeah.
• 1:12:22
  It like k- it's on holy ground- Yeah, and she's like- … and you can
• 1:12:26
  see it like sizzling, like burning.
• 1:12:27
  Yeah, 'cause Diane had said maybe that'll weaken it enough where you can kill it.
• 1:12:31
  Yeah.
• 1:12:31
  I'm like, if that statue had not fallen over- Mm-hmm … in the way that it
• 1:12:37
  did, and she could impale it, I think she would've gotten got, because- I
• 1:12:41
  think so … it really wasn't that weak.
• 1:12:42
  Which maybe that's Saint Christopher, 'cause it was his statue, so
• 1:12:46
  maybe it's like the, that's him protecting her- Maybe, yeah
• 1:12:49
  again, I guess.
• 1:12:50
  I don't know.
• 1:12:51
  Yeah.
• 1:12:52
  So then he gets, the demon gets impaled- Yeah … and then
• 1:12:56
  the whole church sets on fire.
• 1:12:59
  Yes.
• 1:12:59
  And I was like, dang, this demon had to go out with a bang.
• 1:13:03
  A fiery bang.
• 1:13:04
  And she took her time getting out of there.
• 1:13:06
  They both did.
• 1:13:06
  She sure did.
• 1:13:08
  Yeah.
• 1:13:09
  I don't know.
• 1:13:09
  I mean, maybe, like, if it's the exhaustion or, like, just being so
• 1:13:14
  stunned, but yeah, they did take a hot minute to get out of there.
• 1:13:17
  Yeah.
• 1:13:18
  I mean, she got kinda disoriented in there.
• 1:13:21
  Yeah.
• 1:13:21
  And So then he showed up, and it's like, okay, you … Well, just turn around.
• 1:13:26
  Go back exactly the way you came.
• 1:13:27
  But they kinda, like, hugged for a minute.
• 1:13:30
  I'm like, now's not the time.
• 1:13:32
  Yeah.
• 1:13:32
  This is not the setting for this.
• 1:13:34
  No.
• 1:13:34
  You gotta get out.
• 1:13:35
  Yeah.
• 1:13:36
  And then they're sitting out there, and I'm like, well, how
• 1:13:38
  are they gonna get out of there?
• 1:13:40
  Yeah.
• 1:13:40
  But it was a good circle back to the beginning with that little-
• 1:13:44
  it's cool 'cause, like, both things, they needed both things.
• 1:13:46
  Yeah.
• 1:13:47
  Like, the St. Christopher and the SOS thing.
• 1:13:50
  They were a good complement- Yeah … to each other.
• 1:13:53
  Yeah.
• 1:13:54
  I just, I really was impressed with this movie.
• 1:13:56
  I liked it a lot.
• 1:13:57
  I don't think it got the hype that it deserved, honestly.
• 1:13:59
  I heard that it was good.
• 1:14:01
  I didn't hear much about it, but what I did see people say
• 1:14:05
  was that they really enjoyed it.
• 1:14:07
  Yeah.
• 1:14:07
  But I didn't hear a lot of talk about it.
• 1:14:09
  But I thought it was really good.
• 1:14:11
  Yeah.
• 1:14:12
  Yeah, I enjoyed it a lot.
• 1:14:13
  I don't see … There aren't a lot of movies anymore that do scary
• 1:14:19
  well- and that are different, right?
• 1:14:22
  Yeah.
• 1:14:22
  This was a unique-
• 1:14:25
  Set up, I feel like.
• 1:14:27
  I agree.
• 1:14:28
  It was creative.
• 1:14:30
  All right.
• 1:14:32
  So dumb decisions.
• 1:14:34
  I- Yeah.
• 1:14:36
  Several.
• 1:14:36
  Several.
• 1:14:37
  Yeah.
• 1:14:37
  Yeah.
• 1:14:37
  Honestly- Multiple … a lot of them we actually have already said, but you know,
• 1:14:41
  of course I put down peeing off the road, like basically going on a, a nature hike-
• 1:14:46
  for about 30 minutes before finally stopping to go to the bathroom.
• 1:14:49
  That was dumb.
• 1:14:50
  And you guys pointed this out, leaving your headphones in while
• 1:14:53
  venturing out into a parking lot at night, which is- Yeah … yeah, you
• 1:14:56
  said that women shouldn't do that.
• 1:14:57
  Men shouldn't do that.
• 1:14:59
  I mean, nobody should.
• 1:14:59
  Nobody should do that.
• 1:14:59
  Yeah.
• 1:15:00
  That is, like, is such a vulnerable state to put yourself into, especially at night.
• 1:15:04
  Yeah.
• 1:15:05
  You've got your… You can't hear anything- Yeah … around you.
• 1:15:07
  In this world- Yeah … you gotta protect yourself.
• 1:15:09
  Yeah.
• 1:15:10
  Yeah.
• 1:15:10
  You gotta, you gotta be able to know your surroundings.
• 1:15:14
  And, um, then there was, you know, they got back in the van
• 1:15:18
  after the slashes came back.
• 1:15:20
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:15:20
  Yeah.
• 1:15:21
  Which was like a clear sign of, "Hey, this isn't over." Well,
• 1:15:24
  he fit- There's just, like, you know- … behind that Mercedes van.
• 1:15:27
  Um, they had put a lot of work into that.
• 1:15:29
  Yeah, true.
• 1:15:29
  They, they, it looked like the Taj Mahal inside of there.
• 1:15:32
  Yeah.
• 1:15:32
  Also put camping in the woods, really.
• 1:15:34
  Right.
• 1:15:35
  Um, that just didn't make any sense to do that, especially
• 1:15:38
  after what had just happened and after what they had been told.
• 1:15:41
  Yeah.
• 1:15:41
  Um, and they just were like, "Okay, let's just go do this really dumb thing." Yeah.
• 1:15:44
  And I think that's pretty much it for what I had.
• 1:15:46
  Like, uh, I put also in a, just my own quote here, like, "You don't sound
• 1:15:49
  thrilled to live in a van." You know?
• 1:15:50
  Why are you doing that?
• 1:15:51
  Why?
• 1:15:52
  Yeah.
• 1:15:52
  Yeah.
• 1:15:53
  I think the ultimate fatal flaw was wanting to go get barbecue.
• 1:15:58
  I think that started the whole thing.
• 1:16:00
  It is.
• 1:16:00
  It started the whole journey.
• 1:16:01
  I mean, if they had just stayed on the route they were supposed
• 1:16:03
  to- Yeah … she would've had her beautiful proposal at the hot springs.
• 1:16:07
  Yep.
• 1:16:07
  They could've had their define the relationship talk, at a not deadly time.
• 1:16:13
  Everything would've turned out differently, but she
• 1:16:14
  had to get some brisket.
• 1:16:17
  And honestly- risk it for the brisket.
• 1:16:18
  She- She did, and it was rough.
• 1:16:23
  Yeah.
• 1:16:23
  I don't think she would say it was worth it.
• 1:16:25
  I doubt it.
• 1:16:26
  It really never is.
• 1:16:27
  I wouldn't think so.
• 1:16:28
  I mean, there's some good barbecue out there, but it's not worth your life.
• 1:16:31
  What food would be?
• 1:16:33
  Oh, geez.
• 1:16:35
  I think it depends on the day.
• 1:16:37
  I'm, I'm in- Oh … I, I just go through moods.
• 1:16:39
  I have hyperfixation times.
• 1:16:41
  Yeah?
• 1:16:42
  Yeah.
• 1:16:42
  Okay.
• 1:16:43
  So, like right now, what is it?
• 1:16:46
  I don't know.
• 1:16:47
  Right now I really want stuff that I, it makes m- my life difficult.
• 1:16:53
  Like I want ramen noodles and- Oh.
• 1:16:57
  Sushi and stuff like that.
• 1:16:59
  Oh.
• 1:16:59
  I, I go through Asian food kicks- That's rough … really.
• 1:17:01
  Yeah.
• 1:17:02
  Yeah.
• 1:17:03
  Or like I have to have a specific salad from Newk's or
• 1:17:07
  Slim's or something like that.
• 1:17:08
  Oh.
• 1:17:08
  It'll be like one thing, and I'm like, "I want it all the time."
• 1:17:11
  Yeah.
• 1:17:12
  And then Mark will find something from that restaurant or something
• 1:17:15
  similar that he can like work with.
• 1:17:17
  Yeah.
• 1:17:18
  And then I'll be like, "I hate this. I don't want it anymore."
• 1:17:23
  Oh, man.
• 1:17:24
  How do you cope with that?
• 1:17:27
  You just do.
• 1:17:27
  Yeah.
• 1:17:28
  You just do.
• 1:17:28
  You just find a way.
• 1:17:30
  Yeah.
• 1:17:31
  Yeah.
• 1:17:31
  I mean, I think, I think for me, yeah, it just kinda depends, you know, if, if
• 1:17:34
  you're, if it's not, finding food that's worth it while traveling- Yeah … 'cause
• 1:17:39
  that, that is a big thing for us is finding foods that we can't normally get.
• 1:17:43
  And so I don't know, I would probably risk it for a really good
• 1:17:46
  roll- really good lobster roll.
• 1:17:48
  Oh.
• 1:17:49
  Oh.
• 1:17:49
  Yeah.
• 1:17:49
  Yeah.
• 1:17:50
  So what is your food that's worth it?
• 1:17:54
  Worth a curse?
• 1:17:56
  I'm a, I'm such a foodie, so that's hard.
• 1:17:59
  But like I think, I don't know, a good classic unlimited chips and queso-
• 1:18:07
  Oh, yeah … and salsa and a good margarita, that would be worth it.
• 1:18:11
  Oh, nice.
• 1:18:12
  Like, if it was like advertised as like the best margarita- Mm-hmm … I would
• 1:18:15
  have to test that theory, and it would be worth going through this experience for.
• 1:18:20
  Okay.
• 1:18:21
  I do love chips and salsa.
• 1:18:23
  If a restaurant, a Mexican restaurant does not offer like the free chips and salsa,
• 1:18:27
  I'm like, "This is not- You're, yeah
• 1:18:28
  this is not for me." Not worth it?
• 1:18:29
  No.
• 1:18:29
  Trying to think what else.
• 1:18:31
  The fact that they did not immediately leave the movie.
• 1:18:35
  Like, obviously it- when he saw the thing behind the, um, the screen when they were
• 1:18:41
  watching the movie, but like before that, they had heard a handful of weird noises.
• 1:18:45
  Yeah.
• 1:18:45
  And it's like like you, you're, you've been followed, and
• 1:18:49
  you're hearing noises now.
• 1:18:49
  It's time to pack it up.
• 1:18:51
  Yeah, I put- We don't need to keep having this conversation.
• 1:18:53
  Right.
• 1:18:53
  I put in my notes that, you know, he had just had that conversation
• 1:18:57
  about getting the pay bump.
• 1:18:59
  Yeah.
• 1:18:59
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:18:59
  And I was like, "Listen, you just got a pay bump. Leave the projector.
• 1:19:05
  Probably cheap anyway." Yeah.
• 1:19:06
  Yep.
• 1:19:07
  Whatever's out there, the chairs, you can get new ones.
• 1:19:09
  Yeah.
• 1:19:10
  Just go.
• 1:19:11
  Just get outta there.
• 1:19:12
  Yeah.
• 1:19:12
  Right.
• 1:19:12
  And it turns out they couldn't have gone anywhere.
• 1:19:14
  Right, it turns out they couldn't 'cause the keys were- But- … whatever … but
• 1:19:16
  they didn't even try is the point.
• 1:19:17
  Right.
• 1:19:17
  yeah.
• 1:19:18
  Yeah.
• 1:19:18
  And then it was like walking on top of the van, and they
• 1:19:21
  weren't trying to turn the keys.
• 1:19:23
  It took 'em a minute.
• 1:19:23
  Like, it had walked on, it had like walked all over the van for a while, and
• 1:19:27
  they just sat in there listening to it.
• 1:19:28
  What are we gonna do?
• 1:19:29
  Drive.
• 1:19:30
  Yeah.
• 1:19:30
  Get out of there.
• 1:19:31
  It reminded me of The Blair Witch Project.
• 1:19:34
  It's been so long since I've seen that.
• 1:19:36
  I remember that the very end really, really creeped me out.
• 1:19:39
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:19:40
  But I don't remember much else about that movie at all.
• 1:19:43
  They're like, I think they're in the Appalachians, which has come up
• 1:19:47
  a lot- Yeah … um, this episode.
• 1:19:49
  But there's like a scene where they're in their tent, and like
• 1:19:52
  it starts like shaking their tent- Oh … like in the middle of the night.
• 1:19:55
  See?
• 1:19:55
  We don't go camping.
• 1:19:56
  Don't put yourself in that position.
• 1:19:58
  Oh, but it's so fun when you get to go.
• 1:20:01
  All right, so- Didn't have any other ones … then rules for survival.
• 1:20:07
  We know Diane gave them some.
• 1:20:08
  Don't stop, don't drive on the quiet roads, don't drive at night.
• 1:20:11
  And those are the, like, the very beginning.
• 1:20:13
  Yeah.
• 1:20:13
  She kinda gave… It was almost like It Follows when the guy gave her a
• 1:20:16
  blueprint for- Oh, yeah … survival, and then it's like, "Let me not
• 1:20:19
  do what you just told me." Yeah.
• 1:20:20
  Distracted, Walking alone in a parking lot, um- Don't try to- … not
• 1:20:24
  checking your car when you get in it.
• 1:20:26
  Don't try to help others.
• 1:20:27
  No.
• 1:20:28
  No.
• 1:20:28
  At one point, did he say or she said?
• 1:20:31
  Somebody said, "I'll be right back," and, uh, she did.
• 1:20:33
  She went to the bathroom.
• 1:20:35
  Mm. And I was like, "Girl, don't say it." You just messed it all up.
• 1:20:39
  Don't say that.
• 1:20:40
  Don't go crawling underneath a jacked-up vehicle when a crazy
• 1:20:43
  highway demon is after you.
• 1:20:44
  Yeah.
• 1:20:45
  And you know that it's after you.
• 1:20:46
  That always gets me.
• 1:20:47
  In any kind of movie, when anybody's up under a car.
• 1:20:50
  Yikes.
• 1:20:52
  Okay.
• 1:20:53
  So would y'all survive?
• 1:20:55
  At first I thought yes, because I don't think I would've stopped
• 1:20:58
  at that crash, that crash.
• 1:21:00
  Especially if my perception of, like, the guy who drove me was, like, being a turd.
• 1:21:05
  Oh.
• 1:21:05
  Which we also did not talk about, like, how she was able
• 1:21:09
  to see that there- That's right
• 1:21:10
  was, like, something in the car and that webcam 'cause, like, the,
• 1:21:13
  the dash cam kept breaking out.
• 1:21:15
  But I think at first I would have, like, been like, "You deserve that."
• 1:21:19
  Because sometimes whenever people are driving crazy on the road, I will
• 1:21:24
  think "Some some bad karma be coming to you, bro." I keep mo- usually
• 1:21:29
  I want them to get pulled over.
• 1:21:31
  Yeah.
• 1:21:31
  Because, like, if they're driving crazy, then, like, I don't want them to be hurt,
• 1:21:38
  but, like, I want them to get caught.
• 1:21:41
  Uh, yeah, I just wish there would be some sort of consequence
• 1:21:44
  for their crazy action.
• 1:21:45
  Yeah.
• 1:21:46
  Like, the other day I was driving home from work, and it
• 1:21:48
  was, we were on the highway.
• 1:21:51
  It's three cars.
• 1:21:53
  Like, all three lanes are just stopped, and this motorcycle comes.
• 1:21:57
  I'm in the leftmost lane- comes driving between us and the middle
• 1:22:02
  lane- Forget it … just zooming up.
• 1:22:04
  It makes me so mad.
• 1:22:05
  I'm like, "That's not a lane." Yeah.
• 1:22:06
  And how dangerous- Yeah … for you and everybody around.
• 1:22:10
  Like, if somebody, if we're at a standstill and somebody decides to
• 1:22:14
  open their door, and you're walking around and you're just driving
• 1:22:19
  through, you're gonna get knocked off.
• 1:22:20
  Yeah.
• 1:22:21
  What if they hurt you?
• 1:22:22
  And that's your fault, that's not their fault.
• 1:22:24
  Yeah.
• 1:22:24
  But because you're more exposed being on a motorcycle- … you're more
• 1:22:30
  likely to be hurt than they are.
• 1:22:32
  And so then they have to live with that- That- … when it
• 1:22:36
  wasn't really their fault.
• 1:22:37
  Like, it's just, uh, yeah, I want people to get caught, 'cause I want
• 1:22:41
  them to stop doing crazy things.
• 1:22:43
  Well, and 9 times out of 10, I'm like, where are you trying
• 1:22:46
  to go that is so important?
• 1:22:48
  Yeah, like your wife better be in labor.
• 1:22:51
  When I was in labor, Alek wasn't even driving that crazy.
• 1:22:53
  No.
• 1:22:54
  'Cause usually you got some time.
• 1:22:55
  Yeah.
• 1:22:56
  But like, something urgent better be happening.
• 1:23:00
  Best be happening.
• 1:23:00
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:23:01
  But I usually don't give people the benefit of the doubt.
• 1:23:03
  No.
• 1:23:03
  'Cause like, how many, what are the odds?
• 1:23:05
  Slim.
• 1:23:06
  Yeah.
• 1:23:06
  I would agree with that.
• 1:23:07
  As much as we encounter crazy drivers, I'm like, everybody's not
• 1:23:12
  having these legitimate emergencies.
• 1:23:14
  Yeah, no.
• 1:23:15
  You're just trying to, you're running late for work or something.
• 1:23:18
  Yeah.
• 1:23:19
  That's your fault.
• 1:23:20
  Which fair enough, I'm running late for work 100% of the time.
• 1:23:24
  Me too.
• 1:23:24
  And I get mad when people are going the speed limit in front of me.
• 1:23:26
  I f- I feel that.
• 1:23:27
  Yeah.
• 1:23:27
  But I'm also not gonna weave in and out- In and out … and make
• 1:23:31
  everybody else in danger, yeah.
• 1:23:34
  Would I survive?
• 1:23:36
  I don't think I could handle the psychological torture.
• 1:23:39
  I think I would- Hmm … I would give it up.
• 1:23:41
  I think I would just you gotta g- I think I would freeze at some point and just be
• 1:23:47
  like, "I guess you got me." Or I would try to stay in a well-lit place all the time.
• 1:23:51
  For the rest of my life.
• 1:23:51
  I would, yeah, I would never drive anywhere that wasn't well-populated.
• 1:23:56
  That's probably more likely what would happen.
• 1:23:58
  Yeah.
• 1:23:58
  'Cause I do think I would follow her rules once I knew them.
• 1:24:01
  Yeah.
• 1:24:02
  But I feel like this thing would figure a way to… Like them,
• 1:24:06
  like they were trying to do right, but he ended up trapping them.
• 1:24:10
  Yeah.
• 1:24:10
  Did he give them a flat, do we think?
• 1:24:12
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:24:13
  Okay.
• 1:24:14
  I think it's like some Jeepers Creepers stuff.
• 1:24:16
  Like where he like threw the little, the tooth thingy.
• 1:24:20
  Yeah.
• 1:24:20
  The tooth dagger.
• 1:24:22
  Mark, do you think you would survive?
• 1:24:24
  I put no, because I have to stop for snacks- … and I don't have
• 1:24:29
  a St. Christopher medallion.
• 1:24:30
  But you're okay- Ah … at a gas station.
• 1:24:32
  They were fine at the gas stations and the diners.
• 1:24:35
  I guess that's true.
• 1:24:37
  So maybe.
• 1:24:37
  But I don't know, I just kinda thought- I don't know, because when they were in that
• 1:24:41
  encampment, that was a populated area- Yeah … and they were all terrified-
• 1:24:45
  That's true … and it came in there.
• 1:24:46
  Well, but they were also all travelers, all those people.
• 1:24:48
  So y- so is most people at a rest stop.
• 1:24:51
  Yeah, but- Mm
• 1:24:52
  I don't know.
• 1:24:53
  They were, they seemed to be safe in those places.
• 1:24:56
  When they were at the hotel, also travelers, when they were at the rest
• 1:25:00
  stop, and when they were… Maybe it's 'cause it's well-lit, and I don't know.
• 1:25:06
  I don't know.
• 1:25:07
  Could be an inconsistency.
• 1:25:08
  I am not sure.
• 1:25:09
  Yeah.
• 1:25:09
  But if it is from truly if you stop and it's at night, yeah, I gotta have snacks.
• 1:25:19
  Yeah.
• 1:25:19
  Are you, like, do you preplan and have your snacks?
• 1:25:22
  Or is it something like you're driving and you're like, "Ah, that sounds good. That's
• 1:25:25
  what I need." Stop at the gas station and then just see where it takes me.
• 1:25:30
  Usually your- You know?
• 1:25:31
  … stop is for caffeine.
• 1:25:32
  Yeah, most of the time.
• 1:25:33
  That's your primary objective.
• 1:25:33
  Most time it's caffeine.
• 1:25:35
  And you find something else.
• 1:25:36
  And then my, my almost, probably my most consistent go-to is
• 1:25:39
  a strawberry cheese danish.
• 1:25:41
  Yeah.
• 1:25:42
  He likes a gas station pastry.
• 1:25:43
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:25:43
  Okay, like a- It comes- … hostess brand?
• 1:25:45
  The kind- No … that comes in the plastic package, the- Little bit
• 1:25:49
  higher quality than Hostess Oh, yeah, I guess Okay Yeah, it's a little
• 1:25:52
  bit more bougie A little Debbie?
• 1:25:53
  No, this is better than that.
• 1:25:55
  Okay.
• 1:25:56
  I gotta try these.
• 1:25:56
  I wish I knew what the, the brand was.
• 1:25:58
  I don't know.
• 1:25:58
  They have a lot- It's sad- … of different flavors … that I don't
• 1:26:00
  know- But I- … because I've probably eaten hundreds of them But
• 1:26:03
  you would know it when you saw it.
• 1:26:04
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:26:05
  You know the pies- So- … in the box?
• 1:26:06
  Yeah.
• 1:26:07
  The, like, microwave- Yeah … uh, fried pies?
• 1:26:10
  They're usually in that area.
• 1:26:11
  They're over next to those.
• 1:26:13
  But it's not those.
• 1:26:13
  But it's not.
• 1:26:14
  Yeah.
• 1:26:14
  It's better than that.
• 1:26:15
  Have you ever seen Scooby-Doo Monsters Island, or Spooky Island?
• 1:26:21
  I have not.
• 1:26:21
  Okay, it's amazing.
• 1:26:22
  It's a live action with Matthew Lillard as Shaggy, Freddie Prinze Jr.-
• 1:26:27
  Okay … Sarah Michelle Gellar, Linda Cardinelli, I think that's
• 1:26:30
  her name, Mr. Bean's in it.
• 1:26:32
  What?
• 1:26:33
  Yes.
• 1:26:33
  Okay.
• 1:26:34
  And, um- The actor or Mr. Bean?
• 1:26:36
  The actor.
• 1:26:37
  Okay.
• 1:26:37
  Yeah.
• 1:26:38
  Ro- Rowan Atkinson, I think is his name.
• 1:26:39
  Yes, it is.
• 1:26:40
  Yes.
• 1:26:40
  So they go to this island, and they're, like, trying to figure
• 1:26:42
  out, like, what's going on.
• 1:26:43
  They had been broken up, and then, like, all of them got, get, like,
• 1:26:46
  the same message from, like, Mr.
• 1:26:48
  Shondavire or something.
• 1:26:50
  It's Mr. Bean's character.
• 1:26:52
  And anyway, so there's, like, these creatures, like,
• 1:26:56
  roaming in the dark, whatever.
• 1:26:58
  And so they're at a nightclub, like, Shaggy and Scooby are, and he's, like,
• 1:27:03
  like, Scooby's just, like, chilling at the bar, and the bartender gets a call.
• 1:27:07
  And he's like, "I got a call for a Mr.
• 1:27:09
  Doo." And this guy's like, "Melvin?" And he's like, "Nah, Scooby." And
• 1:27:14
  so Scooby comes up, and he's like, "Hello?" And it's, like, this voice,
• 1:27:18
  and it's like, "I've got a bag of hamburgers out here in the woods." And
• 1:27:22
  he goes, "Hamburgers?" And so he gets, he gets lured out into the woods, and
• 1:27:29
  there's, like, this burlap sack with, like, a hamburger, like, a cardboard,
• 1:27:34
  like, sign that says, "Hamburgers," like, pointing down into the sack.
• 1:27:36
  And so he, like, puts his head in the sack, and this, this thing gets them.
• 1:27:40
  And so for you, I imagine- … that the steam would, would be like, "I
• 1:27:46
  got some strawberry cream cheese danishes." And you're like, "Where?"
• 1:27:53
  Oh, did you find a picture of them?
• 1:27:54
  Oh.
• 1:27:55
  Yeah.
• 1:27:55
  Those do look good.
• 1:27:56
  Those are delicious.
• 1:27:57
  They smell like… When he opens it up…
• 1:28:01
  What the heck are you doing?
• 1:28:02
  When he opens it up, it smells like- Bad Heaven?
• 1:28:08
  No.
• 1:28:08
  It smells like the, the plastic.
• 1:28:10
  It-- I feel like it would taste like it smells.
• 1:28:13
  Yes.
• 1:28:14
  Isn't that weird?
• 1:28:15
  Yeah.
• 1:28:15
  Yeah.
• 1:28:17
  I mean, I don't really know, 'cause he usually gets a flavor that I wouldn't be
• 1:28:20
  interested in- Yeah … trying at all.
• 1:28:23
  But it's just, I mean, I'm glad I'm not tempted by it, but- Good.
• 1:28:29
  Yeah.
• 1:28:30
  No, I just, it's not appealing to me at all, but he loves a cheese danish.
• 1:28:33
  Okay.
• 1:28:34
  I think the last, like, road trip snack that I craved, and for a
• 1:28:37
  second I was like, "Am I pregnant?" Was a strawberry Pop-Tart.
• 1:28:43
  Oh, interesting.
• 1:28:45
  And I don't eat Pop-Tarts.
• 1:28:47
  Not because I'm healthy, it's not.
• 1:28:48
  Yeah.
• 1:28:49
  But because they genuinely give me the worst acid reflux.
• 1:28:53
  Really?
• 1:28:54
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:28:55
  Yeah.
• 1:28:55
  I don't like Pop-Tart brand Pop-Tarts.
• 1:28:57
  I like the Great Value brand, cinnamon sugar- What?
• 1:29:00
  … only.
• 1:29:02
  Yeah.
• 1:29:02
  I'll have to try them.
• 1:29:03
  I remember, like, trying Great Value, and I was like, "These are
• 1:29:08
  trash." They're not as soft as the other ones- … as Pop-Tarts, but
• 1:29:13
  I feel like the filling is better.
• 1:29:14
  Pop-Tarts, to me, have a weird taste.
• 1:29:16
  But we did not ever… we had Pop-Tarts growing up in my house,
• 1:29:22
  and those were always the ones.
• 1:29:23
  We would never get name brand.
• 1:29:24
  Yeah.
• 1:29:24
  So it's also probably just what I grew up with- Yeah … that that's not the flavor
• 1:29:28
  that I remember- Mm-hmm … the real deal.
• 1:29:31
  So if I ever want a Pop-Tart, it's gonna be Great Value Walmart brand.
• 1:29:36
  All right, so this will be a fun segment.
• 1:29:38
  Monster smash or pass.
• 1:29:41
  I did have a smash.
• 1:29:43
  Okay.
• 1:29:44
  And I said, "This guy will chase you down. He really has a way of making
• 1:29:48
  you feel wanted, special, chosen." Yeah, that's what I s- I said.
• 1:29:53
  He will always pursue you.
• 1:29:57
  That's so funny.
• 1:29:58
  I mean, that's about it.
• 1:30:00
  That's all he's got going for him.
• 1:30:01
  Um- But he does also gaslight you because, you know- Yeah … she saw him on the
• 1:30:05
  camera, and then he, he was disappeared when- Like on the, on the- That's right
• 1:30:11
  in the- When he was in the passenger seat- Yeah … and she found, saw him
• 1:30:13
  on the camera, but then she tried to show him to Tyler- And you can't see
• 1:30:16
  him anymore … and he wasn't there, so I'm like, "Oh, gaslighter." Yeah.
• 1:30:19
  I said he an ugly bag.
• 1:30:23
  He's also a demon, so our worldviews don't align.
• 1:30:26
  Obviously.
• 1:30:26
  It- Yeah … it would not work out long term.
• 1:30:28
  No.
• 1:30:30
  Um- Um, he would ruin my perfect driving record.
• 1:30:33
  So right.
• 1:30:34
  Very expensive- Can't have that … on your insurance.
• 1:30:36
  Yeah.
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  Can't have that.
• 1:30:38
  No.
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  Can't afford to be in a relationship with this guy.
• 1:30:41
  No.
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  Also, he's, like posing as a man of God, right?
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  So he had, like the, the little thing on.
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  I did think at one point- So I'm like-
• 1:30:50
  he looked like a, he looked like a, um, a minister or a- 'Cause
• 1:30:53
  yeah- … priest … that was part of the story, was that he was traveling
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  with St. Christopher, and then St. Christopher realized, I can't remember
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  how, something happened, and he realized he was not traveling with a man of God.
• 1:31:05
  Something happened.
• 1:31:06
  Oh.
• 1:31:06
  And something affected the guy negatively.
• 1:31:08
  Don't, don't remember that.
• 1:31:09
  Okay.
• 1:31:09
  And that was how, that's why St. Christopher can protect
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  you from this thing, I guess.
• 1:31:15
  Oh, okay.
• 1:31:15
  Is because they used to travel together in the past.
• 1:31:20
  Oh.
• 1:31:21
  Until he found out, oh, that's a demon.
• 1:31:24
  I wonder what, like the sign was.
• 1:31:26
  I can't remember.
• 1:31:27
  They said it was part of the whole story, either where she
• 1:31:29
  found it online or Diane told her.
• 1:31:32
  Yeah.
• 1:31:32
  But I can't remember how she found that info.
• 1:31:34
  I think maybe she was reading it online.
• 1:31:36
  Okay.
• 1:31:37
  But I can't remember what the, the instance was.
• 1:31:39
  All right.
• 1:31:40
  So does it join the club?
• 1:31:42
  Absolutely.
• 1:31:42
  I would say absolutely.
• 1:31:44
  Yes.
• 1:31:44
  Yeah.
• 1:31:44
  Yeah.
• 1:31:44
  This was- Definitely one of, from my opinion, one of the
• 1:31:48
  better ones I've seen this year.
• 1:31:49
  Yeah.
• 1:31:50
  I agree.
• 1:31:51
  One of the better modern horror movies- Yeah
• 1:31:54
  I've seen in a while.
• 1:31:56
  Yeah.
• 1:31:56
  I feel like we get a lot of duds these days.
• 1:31:58
  Why is that?
• 1:31:58
  I feel like it's so hard to get a good movie because the good
• 1:32:01
  ideas are already out there.
• 1:32:02
  I think that, and also, we can talk about this probably during when
• 1:32:07
  we talk about Trick or Treat, but like, we're all so connected now.
• 1:32:12
  Cellphones and everything like that.
• 1:32:15
  Like, and cameras everywhere, and there are so many guardrails in place
• 1:32:20
  of, like, things that used to in a horror movie really, you were toast.
• 1:32:25
  Yeah.
• 1:32:25
  Because, like, they cut the phone line, the power's out,
• 1:32:28
  you're, you have no cell service.
• 1:32:30
  That doesn't happen a whole lot anymore.
• 1:32:32
  Like, so cellphones used to be so spotty, but they're really not like that anymore.
• 1:32:36
  So a lot of those common things that used to be in horror movies that would,
• 1:32:40
  you'd be stuck, I don't feel like those happen to us as much anymore.
• 1:32:44
  Yeah.
• 1:32:44
  And they're not as realistic.
• 1:32:45
  So it's, I feel like it's harder to put your modern characters in a situation
• 1:32:51
  where we don't think of a way out of it.
• 1:32:55
  Yeah.
• 1:32:56
  I would agree with that.
• 1:32:58
  But- No, I really liked this movie.
• 1:33:00
  I did, too.
• 1:33:01
  I'm glad that it's- I was really excited to chat about it, 'cause
• 1:33:04
  when we watched it, I was like, "Okay, this one was good." Yeah.
• 1:33:08
  I like, like I said, I was watching this one, like, home alone and- Ooh … I mean,
• 1:33:11
  with Jay, but, and I seriously, like, and there were a couple of things, like, out
• 1:33:17
  of the corner of my eye my mind was, like, trying to play tricks on me and, like,
• 1:33:20
  think that I was, like, seeing, like, someone, like, poke their head, like,
• 1:33:22
  on the other side of, like- Oh my gosh
• 1:33:23
  my hood here.
• 1:33:24
  And then at one point, like, I thought I heard, like, our screen
• 1:33:27
  door, like, kind of creak, and then I thought I I was just, my mind was
• 1:33:33
  just going absolutely crazy on me.
• 1:33:35
  Like, it sounded like one of my chairs out here, like, skirted against, like,
• 1:33:38
  the gr- Oh, no … like, on the ground.
• 1:33:40
  And I was, like, texting Alek.
• 1:33:43
  I was like, "When are you coming home? I'm so freaked out." Yeah.
• 1:33:46
  So I- Do you guys have outdoor lights?
• 1:33:47
  Like motion lights?
• 1:33:49
  Just in general, like- Yeah … around the perimeter?
• 1:33:51
  'Cause I think I would've, like- I don't know … closed up all of- All the blinds.
• 1:33:56
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:33:57
  Close every window.
• 1:33:59
  And put all the lights up outside.
• 1:34:01
  I don't know if that would… Yeah.
• 1:34:03
  So I closed these windows.
• 1:34:06
  These were shut.
• 1:34:07
  I never close these front ones, which I probably should.
• 1:34:09
  But I also, like, have this thought almost every time I
• 1:34:12
  close, like, a blind or something.
• 1:34:14
  I'm like, "What if he heard someone say, 'I can still see you'"?
• 1:34:17
  Like- Oh, no … I would die.
• 1:34:20
  And I think that.
• 1:34:21
  And, like, whenever we were looking for houses, I was like, "I can't wait to
• 1:34:23
  have a window in every single room." And now we do, and I'm like, "Eee, this is
• 1:34:28
  actually more spooky than I-" "… thought it'd have to be." Luckily, I, like,
• 1:34:33
  I would just die if that happened.
• 1:34:34
  Luckily, it hasn't yet, but or ever.
• 1:34:36
  It never will.
• 1:34:37
  No, it won't.
• 1:34:37
  I'll just, uh, turn my alarm onto home or press the panic button.
• 1:34:41
  Yeah, you have a lot of bicycle people out here and old folks where you live.
• 1:34:45
  So it's like the community itself is, I feel like you're pretty-
• 1:34:49
  Should be good … yeah, pretty safe.
• 1:34:53
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:34:53
  I mean- Knock on all the things.
• 1:34:55
  Yeah, knock on wood.
• 1:34:56
  So all right.
• 1:34:58
  Well, this was a fun episode.
• 1:34:59
  Um, we hope that you guys enjoyed.
• 1:35:01
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• 1:35:06
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• 1:35:07
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• 1:35:08
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• 1:35:13
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• 1:35:14
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• 1:35:15
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• 1:35:22
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