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How They Use Fear To Control Your Mind | Everything's Energy Ep-29 · EEShow (Everything's Energy Show)

• 0:00
  Roland: Conspiracy theory always puts you in an adversarial position of distrust. Mhmm. Yeah. So no matter what the conspiracy is, you're gonna create a story around not trusting a group of people, not trusting an intention or a motivation or a narrative. And over time, that will deplete your well-being.
• 0:20
  And then as you continue to reinvest in that, unconsciously, you start using up your most precious resource for which for me is time.
• 0:30
  Michael Scalar: So you're tuned into Everything's Energy, the EE Show. I'm Michael Scalar. Today, we're gonna talk about knowledge versus power, getting sucked into the conspiracy theory realm, or maybe you should just be focusing on yourself. I think we we all get sucked into this rabbit hole of YouTube and different things where we go down these pillars and steps of different garbage on the Internet that really doesn't affect us. And then we get a little freaked out.
• 0:59
  We're like, oh my god. Did you know about all these things? And while some of them are relevant, that on a day to day for most people, it's just noise. So I think we a lot of us need to tune out the garbage and tune into ourselves. Mhmm.
• 1:10
  What do you guys think?
• 1:11
  Marino: The way that I think about it is like all beliefs carry them consequences. Right? And so you hold on to some thought and it has consequences in your life in the way that you kind of behave and interact, which is why I I despise the news. Because it's like, like you said, it's not relevant to you. It's not gonna affect your day to day, but now you're consumed with these news that are having some physiological response in your body because it makes you angry, it makes you upset, or whatever it is, and takes away your power.
• 1:39
  So I think my theory in people's proclivity to believing conspiracies is if the system is rigged, then it's not that I'm incompetent, it's that there's this collective of people and they're in charge and they're running the show. And so it's not my fault, I'm just a victim of the system kind of oppressing me. And so people would rather do believe that and then kind of offshore
• 2:06
  Michael Scalar: Fall into victimhood. Victimhood. And now they're like, oh, well, I'm a victim, and no one should ever pretend to be a victim. If you got robbed, you're a victim. If the television told you you're a victim, you're not a victim.
• 2:18
  You are a product of propaganda.
• 2:21
  Marino: Yeah. Exactly. And so yeah. So I look at that, and I'm just like, instead of them doing the work and owning up to the fact of like, well, this is where I am, and it's a merit based system, and this is the consequence of what the value that I'm adding. And so if I wanna move up, then I need to upscale.
• 2:38
  Right? Which is the exact opposite. So I think that that's mainly why people would rather believe, I mean, don't get me wrong, there is favoritism and those things do occur. But for the most part, if you set out to do something, no one's gonna stop you. Right?
• 2:50
  You're going to achieve what you want. So I kinda always think about when people start kinda pointing at systems and pointing at conspiracies that are propaganda or in the news and stuff like that. It's them just not accepting responsibility for where they are and moving through it.
• 3:04
  Michael Scalar: Well, and there's there's a lot of power. Knowledge is power. So you wanna be knowledgeable on what's going on in the world, but you don't wanna get sucked into it. You don't wanna identify it. And this is the problem with identity politics in today's society is too many people are making their entire life about things outside their control, and they're trying to go out there and be these social justice warriors.
• 3:22
  In most cases, it's making making it worse. So let's look at, the the people that are blocking traffic for climate change. So you you now have blocked up traffic, and their their exhaust is going and they're going nowhere, and you've just stuffed up society, and you've gotten nowhere. So there's conscious decisions you can make that maybe you're gonna bicycle more. But going out and forcing people on your ideology should should have never occurred in society.
• 3:50
  And I get things are bad in certain places, but at the end of the day, you going out and being a social justice warrior or going out and trying to force society to come to the your cause, most people are gonna rebel against that. It's it's you need to go within, find things that are going to make a difference in your life and your community, not go out and try and change the world on your own because you can't. And having a community is great. Going from that is great.
• 4:14
  Roland: Well, you know, as as you guys were talking about this stuff, and I'm thinking about the idea of a conspiracy or a theory of things, no one really knows at the end of the day the absolute truth of the depths of something and its its construction. Like, everything is a concept, and then you decide if you want to align with believing it or doubting it. And the the thing that I get to say is personal sovereignty in the space of your own mind and your
• 4:39
  Michael Scalar: own heart,
• 4:39
  Roland: because you alluded to it. If you are watching something and it's being brought into your reality as a piece of information, it then generates a perception which powers up a belief, and now you're projecting that belief out into an external reality. Mhmm. If something is really conspiratorial and it may be a dark and depraved thing or you're like, oh, I know the truth. Can you do anything about it anyways as an individual?
• 5:06
  Michael Scalar: Well, let's bring in the Epstein files right now because it's just a huge distraction on the Internet. So no one's gone to jail. Everyone's freaking out, and there's all kinds of fake Epstein emails going around. He's Satoshi. They're bringing in other names.
• 5:20
  They're saying Elon's on the list, and Trump's on the list, and all these people are on the list, and they're just referenced as names on that were were mentioned in it. They're not actually there's no evidence. And people are like, all these people on this list should go to jail. It's like, well, these some of these people are just be there's musicians in there that were just being referenced outside his island. They don't just because their name is around this person doesn't mean they're they've done anything.
• 5:43
  Roland: Well, the justice system is innocent until proven guilty in this country. People forget the fundamentals of things.
• 5:50
  Michael Scalar: Right. It's like, okay. So they talked about the guy that doesn't mean anything. And but what I wanted to drive home is it's a distraction. Correct.
• 5:56
  Nothing's being done. So they've dropped 9,000 files on Twitter and the Internet, and everyone's talking about it. No one can do anything about it. No. Justice Department, I would love for you to go out there and start hunting the pedos and but you have this other lady in politics, Bondi, saying, well, we we don't wanna do anything because it would
• 6:15
  Roland: Destabilize the entire economy and system.
• 6:17
  Michael Scalar: Well, I mean, if if that many people are involved in this, maybe we should just clear house and start over because clearly we have some bad actors. But us having the conversation about it at dinner, on Twitter, anywhere, we don't have any power to do anything.
• 6:32
  Roland: Didn't change anything about it either.
• 6:33
  Michael Scalar: I I can get upset about there being pedophiles. That doesn't make them go to prison. I mean so being you don't wanna be distracted by it. So everyone kept bringing it to me. I'm like, honestly, I don't real I saw some of it, and I I don't know what's real.
• 6:46
  And there's not enough information. The names are redacted. Like, there's no conversation to have for me. Until they start arresting these people, which they've had the names of these people for three, four, how many I don't know how years. We'll just leave it at years.
• 6:57
  It's been a while. No one's going to jail. So why are you dumping all this information on the Internet and it's all redacted anyways? It's just to cause a circus.
• 7:07
  Marino: Yeah. It's also like a hierarchy of concerns. There's this great book, The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F. Yeah. I love that book.
• 7:16
  But he makes mention in that book, it was so good. It was kind of the things that people worry themselves about, something that they saw on the news and this and whatever. But not realizing that your cousin Johnny's doing cocaine in the bathroom. Like, you should be talking to your family and seeing if they're okay instead of kind of just, yeah, being on the Internet, being a justice warrior. And so the hierarchy of concerns is just the media comes in and they tell you what to be upset about, what to because that's how they make money.
• 7:41
  The machine is designed that way. And so some of these things that come up is like, well, now I'm thinking about this. Like, I didn't give consent to for this to, like, hold space and and energy in my mind, but but that's what they do. And and and they're gonna keep doing it, and it's gonna get worse with AI. We're just jumping screen to screen, and now the AI is fine tuning and optimizing to really upset us, to to really keep us busy and distracted.
• 8:05
  And people, like, they don't pay attention to that.
• 8:07
  Roland: They just broken the Internet, for lack of better description. Like, you don't know what's a real video
• 8:11
  Marino: Anymore. Not. Now that's why
• 8:12
  Michael Scalar: my problem with the Epstein stuff is, you look at this Epstein video and everyone's like, well, that's AI. Yeah. And most people aren't smart enough to think, well, that might be AI or haven't caught on to that yet. So they're reading something they think is fact, and it's literally fabricated. And I've don't know why people do this too where they create these fake narratives And using again, I think it's just for more distraction.
• 8:34
  But at the end of the day, you should be focusing on what builds your life up, not what is distracting you. And so you have, all these financial things going on right now right now, which is more conspiracy stuff. But at the end of day, save your money, or spend your money wisely. You know, what are you what are you gonna do? So with the Epstein stuff, it drops just as crypto scratching.
• 8:54
  Silver went up to $1.20 and then drops to $70. So we've got all kinds of things going in politics. So I always wonder when the media piles in on a topic, like, what are they trying to distract us from at this moment? And at the end of the day, I don't care what's going on with the Epstein stuff because I can't control any of it. I can control what happens right here and now in my physical existence around my friends and family.
• 9:18
  But until someone is going to jail, then it's that's just also distraction. I mean, of course, people who are doing illegal things should be prosecuted. Again, that's just outside my control. It's gonna make me feel good knowing that there's justice. Unfortunately, it seems like in America, justice is either the slowest moving thing in the world aside from a 400 pound tortoise or it doesn't exist.
• 9:42
  Because I just you don't see enough of it. There's so many bad things happening in the world and people just seem like, oh, well, look, everyone be upset about this. It's like, well, is someone doing something about that over there?
• 9:51
  Roland: Well, that's also what it does too. Like, lot of these things, they desensitize you because at some point, your mind will stop reacting to things for self preservation. And, you know, to to circle back to a couple things that were mentioned previously about how do you navigate not being pulled into this stuff. I think it's important for people to understand what happens to you, whether you like it or not. If you get pulled into the notion of a conspiracy, then that holds space in your mind consciously and then your unconscious mind, and it creates these behaviors, beliefs, programs that are running in the background.
• 10:27
  Conspiracy theory always puts you in an adversarial position of distrust. Mhmm. Yeah. So no matter what the conspiracy is, you're gonna create a story around not trusting a group of people, not trusting an intention or a motivation or a narrative, and over time, that will deplete your well-being. And then as you continue to reinvest in that, unconsciously, you start using up your most precious resource for which for me is time.
• 10:56
  Like, if I'm being pulled into every day, it was thirty minutes looking at Epstein files, now it's an hour. Now it's then I'm talking to people about it when I'm not doing it. All of a sudden, this holds four hours of my day. It it actually owns me. And then if you wanna go one layer deeper, the best way to throw someone off balance in life, in society to control them is to make them emotional.
• 11:17
  Mhmm. So these things, if they elicit in a negative emotion from you, that also takes your power. It takes your focus, and it makes you less able to achieve anything that you mentioned before. You can achieve anything in life if you're willing to work for it. Well, if four hours of your day or five hours of your day are spent searching for the truth, to what end?
• 11:34
  To learn more information about something you can't control, that's how these things control your life. You know, there was multiple tribes in the world that had no idea COVID happened. Think about that for a second. Yeah. Like, nothing changed in their reality.
• 11:50
  Michael Scalar: Was the Amishes it was like, well, how are you guys surviving the Amish? Well, we don't have TV.
• 11:54
  Roland: Yeah. They don't they don't watch it. I I've done work up in in in, like, Central Pennsylvania, and the Pennsylvania Dutch and the Amish, like, they didn't didn't give a shit. They just went on was
• 12:04
  Michael Scalar: a flu season. Right?
• 12:06
  Roland: But they just they didn't get it, they just went on living life.
• 12:08
  Michael Scalar: Yeah. Or they got it and they thought it
• 12:09
  Roland: was a flu. Yeah. So what I'm kind of getting at here from a functional perspective is, like, there's nothing wrong with wanting to be informed. There's a fine line between the idea of being a truth seeker because the truth that you're seeking is a meaning that's been made by you as a decree of what you think truth is.
• 12:28
  Michael Scalar: Mhmm.
• 12:28
  Roland: If someone is conspiring to delude you into something and you've decided that this is a conspiracy, therefore, what you're gonna find when you dig is the antagonist to this story, therefore, you found truth. Well, good for you, but it's not gonna change your life all that much.
• 12:44
  Michael Scalar: Now you're just really pissed off.
• 12:45
  Roland: And it it alters your personality over time, and it depletes you physically, mentally, emotionally, and most important, spiritually. Yeah.
• 12:53
  Marino: And I think I think people can pick up that we're using this as an example to exemplify the weaponization of conspiracies and what they tell us to believe, not so much kind of the context of it. But it happens all the time with all sorts of things. And I could, when I meet someone, very quickly determine if this is someone who spends a lot of time watching the news and what they follow because like their topics and and then they also get combative and they write all the divide versus someone that you meet asks you different questions that kind of feel enlightening. Right?
• 13:26
  Roland: They're being they've been programmed and they're literally running it perfectly unbeknownst to their own awareness and you're observing, wow, this is the end product of this thing. Mhmm. Are you happier for it? Yeah. Is your life better?
• 13:37
  Is the quality of it improved?
• 13:39
  Marino: Yeah. Probably not.
• 13:40
  Roland: Probably not. But you also take away their identity when you tell them to stop focusing on Yes. One of those
• 13:45
  Marino: powerful forces in the human psyche. Right? Which is why they play the identity politics.
• 13:49
  Roland: I am a truth seeker. Who's the I am statement?
• 13:54
  Michael Scalar: I am just trying to be happy and live my life. Yes. That should be everyone's statement. Instead, they're like the problem here is it's it's propaganda and conspiracy theorists. Because obviously conspiracies are a lot of them came true to be not conspiracy Conspiracy theories and
• 14:08
  Roland: fact. Yes.
• 14:10
  Michael Scalar: But you're navigating this, this world of information, and you've got to kind of figure out, like, is this useful? Is it beneficial? At the end of the day, most of it's not. It's just noise. Mhmm.
• 14:21
  So you well, you wanna be informed. Like, let's say you're taking an experimental medication during a pandemic. Obviously, you wanna be pretty freaking informed and not follow the propaganda, and maybe the conspiracy theories are a good thing to look at, and then that leads you to facts of research. But if you're just gonna sit there and and do a spin and tailspin down into oblivion on on this, oh my god. Do you know what's gonna like, the world's gonna end tomorrow.
• 14:47
  Was like, no. No. Calm the fuck down. No.
• 14:49
  Roland: Well, I've always said, dude, it's a funny thing. If the world ends and you die, you can't care. And the first is like, at the end of the day, you can't give a shit if you're not here anymore. So what is there to worry about? But I know that's easy to say and not easy to embody for people if they have fear of death and things that they're gonna lose.
• 15:03
  But
• 15:03
  Michael Scalar: That's why I love Danian's episode on our show. It's just like, I was in the most blissful place ever when I died. I'm like, cool. Alright. Like, don't you be fearing death at this point?
• 15:12
  Roland: Well, I had a family friend. She died on the table and they shocked her back and she remembers being so she was out of pain. She was floating above her body. When she came back in, everything hurt again. She was pissed.
• 15:23
  She's like, I didn't wanna come back here. That's what it did. Right? So yeah. So, you know, there is that notion that it's not so scary on the other side, but again, we're getting into it.
• 15:31
  Michael Scalar: Well, only thing to fear is fear itself.
• 15:33
  Roland: I love the old False evidence appearing real.
• 15:35
  Michael Scalar: I love the old dune, I will face my fear and let it pass through me. You know, people living in fear of the tense, they're bound up. But that that's unhealthy.
• 15:44
  Roland: This personifies what I mentioned about how this is my belief about how these things create a change in the archetype of the person. They go from being an internally, I guess, equanimable. Right? You know, equanimity, the absolute stillness of being at the center of peace. They go to this, they're trying to get me, and these things are being done to us.
• 16:06
  It's like, look. You can't do anything about it anyways.
• 16:09
  Michael Scalar: The pigeons are spying on me.
• 16:10
  Roland: Yeah. I I I knew a guy who worked for the CIA, and he was a Navy SEAL before that. And, he he mentioned this long government project that's been enacted for a long time. This was around COVID. I remember saying to him, so, like, knowing all that you know, what what do you do?
• 16:26
  He's like, just love your family. Yeah. Can't do anything
• 16:29
  Michael Scalar: about it.
• 16:29
  Roland: Just love your family. And I think that's an important message because now more than ever, if we are to change as a as a society of people, and we are to become more empowered, and we are to become more at peace with reality as it is, stop looking outside of yourself and start doing some internal work on self. Like block out the toxicity. You you don't let horrible smells come into your home. You close the window.
• 16:51
  So this is the same kind of concept. Like, this is a toxic energy if you allow it to be. Being informed is good. You're not ignorant. But being obsessed becomes pathological.
• 17:01
  Marino: That's what it So
• 17:03
  Roland: maybe we should, like what do you guys think? Wrap up the how do we encourage people to not be a victim in this Ponzi scheme?
• 17:12
  Marino: Well, I would say, I mean, when you have information that comes in, does it empower you or disempower you? Right? And I think that I mean, it's evident that we're not saying put your hands up and say it is what it is. Right?
• 17:23
  Roland: You It's not about nihilism.
• 17:24
  Marino: Yeah. You do have some kind of influence on the world, and so making decisions to move in the positive direction is much more effective than being super upset and screaming and yelling and stopping traffic and doing all those different things. But I I always like to some people are very vocal about their ideas and politics and everything, and then there are other people that are very involved with their community. Right? They join certain organizations and nonprofits, and they volunteer their time, and they feed the homeless, and maybe go to a what's that program?
• 18:02
  With the the kids. I forgot. But anyways, you can mentor children.
• 18:08
  Roland: A big brother, big sister.
• 18:09
  Marino: And so when I see someone like that, it's like you're having a positive active role in the world. That's the right way to do it. Right? Not not just being super upset and screaming and this and that and the third because it it I don't know if it was you that said it, but when you show up that way, people resist it. So it's the most inefficient thing you can do.
• 18:30
  A much more efficient thing to do would be to start a nonprofit and and do positive things and get people
• 18:35
  Michael Scalar: to join Be the change.
• 18:36
  Marino: Be the change
• 18:37
  Michael Scalar: and Yeah.
• 18:37
  Marino: Make a community, and then this is what we stand for, and this is how things are. So I would say that that's kind of a much better mindset or approach to
• 18:45
  Michael Scalar: Yeah. And and taking back off what you said, at the start of what you were just saying is, if you're ever wondering whether you're being propagated to or someone's trying to shift the narrative in you, just realize if you're afraid, they that's propaganda. If you are in fear and you're shutting down and going, oh my god, That that's not beneficial. Those are lower frequency things. This is when you know that you're being manipulated.
• 19:13
  Because if you an outside source is trying to bring your energy level down To what benefit? It's not to your benefit. It must be to someone else's benefit or some other thing's benefit. And then you don't want to be the lemming. You don't want to be the person following everyone's lead because you're supposed to be a certain way.
• 19:33
  It's fine to be different, and it's fine to be a part of the groups. But when a narrative is telling everyone, you need to be a certain thing and you need to think a certain way, maybe you should remove yourself from the situation, go meditate a little, and being like, how is this benefiting me? Or is it benefiting someone else? So identifying the there's normally a financial or a control mechanism attached to being manipulated. So does someone benefit by controlling me in this manner?
• 19:59
  Do they benefit financially? Or should I just remove myself from this scenario? You know, it's it's it's very simple. When CNN or Fox News is telling you, you need to be upset about something. You should absolutely not be upset about something.
• 20:11
  Roland: Do I?
• 20:12
  Michael Scalar: You should be like, where's that power button? And
• 20:15
  Roland: to piggyback off that, I think taking some time to remove yourself from all external distractions and seeing how often you're being pulled into a state of emotion That. That is away from being Happy. Or even just content, like peaceful. Because happiness is fleeting. Like, you cannot be perpetually happy, but you can be at peace
• 20:35
  Michael Scalar: when What's that? Golden retrievers can.
• 20:38
  Roland: They can.
• 20:38
  Michael Scalar: Yes. We all need to channel our inner golden
• 20:40
  Roland: And Jack Russell's. They're always smiling. But anytime something's making you emotional, get a sense of how often you're being made to be emotional when you haven't willfully changed your state Mhmm. Consciously.
• 20:54
  Michael Scalar: These are my feelings. Yes. Stop trying to make them your feelings. Because emotions You're responsible for how you feel, make so sure someone else is affecting your feel.
• 21:01
  Roland: Because emotions are contagious to some degree. You can be empathically influenced by other people, and you can empathically pick up stuff from people. Secondly, their energy and motion, they're always temporary. So if you're getting emotionally excited by an idea, something that you've heard, this too shall pass. If you give yourself time to detoxify it before you start taking to the soapbox and putting your long winded response yeah.
• 21:26
  On You know? And and, yes, sometimes it's good to defragment your mind, so to speak, but if you're doing it, you're actually potentially feeding into the system. Yeah. And I think it's worth, you know, what do you guys think? Do we have the plot totally lost here?
• 21:41
  Are we on track? Because maybe we can learn something from what you have experienced yourselves during this time of information in a day in what's the word? Inundation? Inundation with an information? Couldn't pronounce that one properly.
• 21:54
  But, yeah, what do you guys think? Is it something that is overloading you in your day to day lives? Or you do find yourselves being stuck in this loop where you're not often at peace and often emotional? It's a great place
• 22:04
  Michael Scalar: to end it. So Yeah. Thank you, gentlemen, and thank you everyone out there watching. Like, comment, subscribe. See you next time.
• 22:10
  Roland: Adios.