75. We care for everyone else at our own expense with Claire Stephensen

The Relationship-Smart podcast · Jun 21, 2026 · 1h 7m

We care for everyone else at our own expense.

Have you ever felt let down by care? Like you don't quite get the care you need? Like there isn't enough to go around? and Like the whole self-care thing just puts more work on your plate?

In this episode Claire and I explore:

-her concept of "shame of care," how traditional care approaches can be damaging when they rely on authority-based methods which dismiss patients' experiences

-harmful cultural experiences and trauma that can occur in various systems including families, schools, and healthcare

-Claire's approach of breaking down care into…