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NFL Quarterbacks, College quarterbacks and more · The Jake Wimberly Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Landry on your radio as you can find him on
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  Speaker 1: Exit Landry Football Landry football dot com. Chris, when you
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  Speaker 1: look at the NFL and I was going through the
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  Speaker 1: list of some wide receiver combinations, and you know, for fun,
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  Speaker 1: some alice were ranking which division has the best wide receivers.
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  Speaker 1: So Ben Beaver and I and we were having this
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  Speaker 1: conversation last night, were kind of joking little. But you
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  Speaker 1: know how sports fans do bolli and stuff around Tyreek Hill,
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  Speaker 1: Jade and Waddall. For the Dolphins, you add Odell Beckham junior.
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  Speaker 1: Most say he's washed up. Can he as a healthy
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  Speaker 1: football player this year with those two guys, Can he
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  Speaker 1: have some sort of a reconnaissance type year, a bounce
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  Speaker 1: back year where he actually has, you know, some productivity
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  Speaker 1: on the table for Mike McDaniel.
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  Speaker 2: Look the keys what you just said, if he can
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  Speaker 2: stay out? If he can, yes, because think about the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the field being opened up and how that
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  Speaker 2: can really affect, particularly the crossing routes, which he's so
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  Speaker 2: good at. You've got to you've got to keep your
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  Speaker 2: safety's deep because of the speed on the outside, he
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  Speaker 2: can eat up over the middle if he's there, you know,
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  Speaker 2: quite frankly a good tight end. A lot of people can,
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  Speaker 2: but he can be really effective if if, if he's healthy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, and that's the thing you just can't he
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  Speaker 2: just can't ignore. I mean, San Francisco's really good, the
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  Speaker 2: Philadelphia is really good. Quietly, the Bears are really good,
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  Speaker 2: you know. So, yeah, there's some others that I put in,
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  Speaker 2: but I think that they could challenge for as good
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  Speaker 2: as any. But is he going to be healthy for
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  Speaker 2: seventeen weeks? I tend to doubt that. But if he's
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  Speaker 2: healthy enough come playoff time, that'll be interesting to see.
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  Speaker 2: And is it enough for them to get home feel advantage?
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  Speaker 2: I stress there is not a team that needs home
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  Speaker 2: feel advantage to be successful to the end of the
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  Speaker 2: season more than the Miami Dolphins because the likelihood of
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  Speaker 2: having to go Cincinnati, Buffalo, Kansas City, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: our crazy weather around the country. We know we could
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  Speaker 2: have a January day that's sixty I know that, but
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  Speaker 2: the odds are, as we sit here in the heat
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  Speaker 2: of August, we think probably going to be pretty cold
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  Speaker 2: in those places at that time of the year, and
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  Speaker 2: that's just not a good formula for them. So they're
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  Speaker 2: going to need to get lucky with good weather on
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  Speaker 2: the road, warmer weather meaning or they just need to
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  Speaker 2: do take care of their business, get home fat advantage
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  Speaker 2: and make everybody go to South Beach and that's their
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  Speaker 2: best chance.
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  Speaker 1: Christy, it seems like it's always been that way right
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  Speaker 1: for the Dolphins. I mean you go back to Marino Shula,
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  Speaker 1: Duper Clayton, they couldn't play and seem like north of
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  Speaker 1: the Mason Dixon line when it's cold, Why is that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, look, I think that you get accustomed
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  Speaker 2: to Tampa had that issue for a while too. I
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  Speaker 2: think you get used to certain things at certain times
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  Speaker 2: a year that you're just more comfortable with. I think
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  Speaker 2: the fact that, to me, if you're a good running team,
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  Speaker 2: there's no reason why you can't be successful, even if
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  Speaker 2: you're from a Cole Weather standpoint. It has a lot
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  Speaker 2: to do with how your quarterback plays in that environment.
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  Speaker 2: Can you throw the football well in that environment? Two
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  Speaker 2: U's got a good arm. But you know a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the how they in this particular team likes to
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  Speaker 2: work their rot concepts, particularly the deep ones. If you
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  Speaker 2: got windy weather, and I to me, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: windy comes a lot with Cole Weather that has as
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  Speaker 2: much of a fact. Look, if you can run the football,
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  Speaker 2: you should be able to win. I don't care where
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  Speaker 2: you're from, but I think teams are kind of built
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  Speaker 2: with who they play, how they play, where they play,
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  Speaker 2: and I think they should be effective. Look, it's the
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  Speaker 2: coach that comes from the Tree, Kyle Shanahan Tree, who
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  Speaker 2: believes in the running game. But I think how they
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  Speaker 2: try to build their team and their roster, it just
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  Speaker 2: hasn't worked well. And you're right, there's I Look, when
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  Speaker 2: Marino was there, I didn't think they could run the
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  Speaker 2: football well enough. So that was the problem there. And
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  Speaker 2: I think they just kind of had in times that
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  Speaker 2: they were really good. Look that there were a time
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  Speaker 2: with Dunka and kick Shula they go anywhere and go
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  Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh and win. But you're right, it seems to
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  Speaker 2: have come up sharp when they're on the road.
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  Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett words, he's struggling. As you know, he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: going to ever get the job, you know for Philadelphia
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, that's his job. Are you surprised. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we've seen now just about every quarterback in that class
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  Speaker 1: outside of Rock Party really just kind of just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: morph their way almost out of this league.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of it has to do
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  Speaker 2: with execations. Canty Pickett had a really good year pit
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  Speaker 2: he still has ability. Still think he's a type of
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  Speaker 2: quarterback that, like most of them, that need help around them.
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  Speaker 2: He's not a guy, nor was he ever a guy
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  Speaker 2: that was going to carry the team. Pittsburgh's defense was
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  Speaker 2: pretty good, running game was pretty good. But for him
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  Speaker 2: as a rookie, I thought that he struggled with some
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  Speaker 2: decision making. I think coaching has a lot to do,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't mean that good coach back coach. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: it's not that. It's I think you have to have
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  Speaker 2: a certain style of coach, you have to teach a
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  Speaker 2: certain way, and I think you have to have an
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  Speaker 2: offense that is very quarterback friendly for guys to be successful.
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  Speaker 2: And I I so in other words, I think if
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  Speaker 2: you took a Kenny Pickett and you put him in
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  Speaker 2: a different situation, I think you could get better results.
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  Speaker 2: But in the end, there's no question he was overdrafted
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  Speaker 2: to some degree. There's no question that Jack Wilson was.
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  Speaker 2: But now they're fighting a different battle. They are now
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  Speaker 2: considered a bust, and so any bad decision that's made
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  Speaker 2: is gonna be Oh, there he goes again. Where say, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: brock Purdy, he's really proved himself to be a good quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: If he makes the same mistake, it's not the end
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  Speaker 2: of the world because he's had this success. These guys
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  Speaker 2: haven't And why haven't they Well, it has a lot
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  Speaker 2: to do with their play, but it has a lot
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  Speaker 2: to do with the play around them. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that the quarterback position, while the most important, it's also
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  Speaker 2: the most dependent. And I don't care even the great ones.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say this. I think that no doubt. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think anybody would disagree. Patrick Mahomes sets the standard for
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks in this league, and I think you put him
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  Speaker 2: anywhere and he elevates just anybody quarterback run. But I
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  Speaker 2: ask you, if he was in a bad organization with
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  Speaker 2: a bad roster around him, he may make a bad
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  Speaker 2: team fill in the blank whatever. Put them on the
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  Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers, put them on whatever. I just what if
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  Speaker 2: he makes them better? But I don't think he's winning
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  Speaker 2: playoff games like he is in Kansas City with Andy Reid,
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  Speaker 2: because you know what, when they weren't playing well last
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  Speaker 2: year and he was frustrated, meaning Patrick Mahomes. They played
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  Speaker 2: good defense, they ran the football, and they got it
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  Speaker 2: to the point where they kind of helped him get
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  Speaker 2: to the point where then he could take over when
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  Speaker 2: they absolutely needed him to win it in a playoff game.
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  Speaker 2: I think that is overlooked. I don't think people either
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  Speaker 2: don't understand or they tend to look at the position
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  Speaker 2: because they feel like they can see what the quarter
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  Speaker 2: is or indn't. I don't think they truly get how
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  Speaker 2: important the play is around every quarterback and it could
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  Speaker 2: make one look bad. I mean, I saw a Patrick
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  Speaker 2: Mahomes lose a Super Bowl because they couldn't block a
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  Speaker 2: soul in that game, and that has an effect. Drop
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  Speaker 2: balls has an effect. Poorly, Ron Ross has an effect.
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  Speaker 2: Great coaching that can stabilize things, and I think Andy
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  Speaker 2: Reid's had a lot to do with his development. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that he's quite the same results, it's quite
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  Speaker 2: the same results if he's not in as good a situation.
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  Speaker 1: Chris Landry, make sure to find him on Exit Landry Football.
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  Speaker 1: Landryfootball dot com is the website. Chris, always appreciate your
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  Speaker 1: time thank you so much. Look, have a great week.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do it again next Monday.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, thank you so much. Take care.