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Drive Thru News #42 - In the future, we'll all be driving levitating eggs! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  I was going to say, should we kick this thing off?
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Breaking news.
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  Welcome to drive thru episode number 42.
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  This is our monthly recap where we've put together a menu of automotive.
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  Motorsport and random car adjacent news.
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  Let's pull up to window number one for some automotive news.
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  Bam!
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  Let's pick it up a notch.
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  Let's do some smoky burnouts.
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  Isn't that what Emeril Lagasse used to do?
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  Bam!
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  Bam!
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  Brad, we have an update.
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  We have breaking news.
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  There is a cyber truck update.
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  We found out a little secret when we were doing a crossover
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  episode with one of our guests.
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  Did Elon Musk snort my hundred dollars up his nose?
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  Is that what happened?
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  Well, he must've spent it on something because you didn't get your day
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  one t shirt that you were supposed to get as a reservation holder.
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  Did you get it as a reservation holder or after you place your order?
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  No, you were supposed to get it when you placed your reservation.
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  Oh, I didn't get anything.
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  That's what we were told.
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  Remember, you were all upset about that.
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  It wouldn't fit me now.
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  Anyway, I don't know what happened to my t shirt.
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  You know, what's funny is that t shirt might be worth more than that
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  Cybertruck allotment at this point.
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  And those were some expensive t shirts, a hundred dollars.
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  If everybody got one and they're like millions of people put
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  in orders for Cybertrucks.
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  I figured it out.
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  It's like the fire festival.
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  Everybody put in all this money.
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  Some people got a t shirt.
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  Tesla is the fire festival of the automotive.
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  world.
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  Where is your order?
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  Have you received Dogecoin?
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  I have been spending all my time, literally 24 seven for the last month,
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  trying to cancel my order and, and just not having any luck canceling my order.
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  We will come back to the cyber truck.
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  No, please don't.
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  Oh, we will.
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  We will.
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  It's.
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  Please.
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  Please don't it's still in the news, but you know, what else is in the news?
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  We need to talk about a couple things that happened here in the month of February.
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  And what's important about this particular episode is this is our season four finale.
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  Wait a minute.
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  What?
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  You didn't know?
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  Season four?
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  Yeah.
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  We've been doing this for.
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  Four years.
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  We are getting close to the point where if you are tuning into this
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  show for the first time today, it'll take you a year to listen to
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  all of the episodes that we have.
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  That's how close we're getting.
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  Wow.
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  I didn't realize that's insane.
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  And season four was pretty epic.
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  And we'll talk about that in a minute here, but We also want to talk about
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  some other exciting things because February is a great time of year.
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  We get to talk about the new cars that are projected for the rest of the year.
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  Because remember new car season starts in August, September timeframe.
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  So we only got six months to go until the 2025 model start hitting.
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  You got to slow down, slow your roll with the 2025.
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  It's barely 2024 fiscal year 2025 starts in September.
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  No, we are nowhere near September back off that soapbox.
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  We want to talk about those awesome Superbowl commercials.
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  And we want to talk about the Superbowl racing, which is the Rolex 24 hours.
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  Let's jump into it.
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  Which came first, the Rolex or the Superbowl?
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  Well, it was the Superbowl.
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  So let's talk about those Superbowl commercials.
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  Two car commercials.
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  I think there were six or two.
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  There were six and here they are in no specific order.
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  And I'm going to save the best one for last.
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  There was the perfect 10, which is the Kia EV6 commercial, which we've
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  been seeing for a couple of months.
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  That was one of them.
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  And then there's the other one.
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  That's the last one you're going to mention.
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  Which is the redo of the Toyota commercial from last year with the Joneses.
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  Remember keeping up with the Joneses?
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  Well, this one was the STFD handle or shut the front door
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  handle or the daredevil handle.
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  It was a couple of different titles for that one.
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  What are you talking about?
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  Shut the front door.
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  I linked it in the show notes.
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  There is a USA Today article that shows all the links.
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  Yes, it has all the links.
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  I watched it.
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  Is this the ATV one?
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  No, that's a good one too.
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  The ATV, the mullet, that's a funny one.
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  You guys saw that one too?
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  Well, I watched the Super Bowl, so yes.
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  Whoa!
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  Tanya watched the Super Bowl?
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  Of course, I always do.
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  I didn't know you got down like that.
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  She literally watches it for the commercials.
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  No, I used to have small little gathering every year for the Super Bowl.
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  very much.
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  I wasn't invited.
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  When, when, when was this?
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  My first call.
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  Yeah.
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  My, where was my invites?
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  Did it get lost in the mail?
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  Is that what happened?
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  Well, you sent it to my old address.
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  We're with my Cybertruck t shirt.
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  When I used to have them.
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  I don't know if you were going to travel.
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  I would have traveled to Texas to hang out with Tanya for the Super Bowl.
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  We traveled to go to an F1 race, for God's sake.
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  That sounds like a good time.
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  All right, so we've listed three so far.
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  Okay, fine.
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  I remember the Toyota one.
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  It was stupid.
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  That's why I forgot it.
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  So we got the EV6.
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  We got the Toyota Tacoma commercial.
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  We got the mullets with the Kawasaki ATV UTVs, which I thought was
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  Funny, especially when he blows by the bald guy who's chopping wood.
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  And then suddenly it's like business in the front party, in the back, then
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  you've got the Christopher Walken BMW commercial, which I'm not even going
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  to try to imitate Christopher Walken.
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  But all I know is I wanted more cowbell by the end of that virtual.
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  And I just say, I am so excited to see Christopher Walken.
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  Cause more times than not, I'm just like, where the hell is Christopher Walken?
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  Like, I was like, he just fell off the face of the earth.
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  You don't see him in anything anymore.
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  And it's like, Oh, there he is.
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  The best part of that commercial wasn't even all the people making fun of him It's
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  that scene where he's at the dining table with usher and he's like don't you have
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  somewhere else to be and then when he?
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  Leaves he's doing the whole chemical brothers dance thing on his way out.
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  I was like, that's cool.
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  That's really good If you remember that music video, I
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  thought that was really good.
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  Yeah Yep, yep.
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  So it's a tie for number one in my book.
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  There's two more to go.
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  Is your tied one even a car commercial?
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  It's car adjacent because there was a helicopter in it.
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  The bridge is out.
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  Oh my god.
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  Get out like a good neighbor.
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  Neighbor.
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  Yeah.
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  Like a good neighbor.
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  Neighbor.
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  So good.
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  And the sheep.
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  Oh my god.
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  I was dying laughing.
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  I was like, Oh, this is.
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  I appreciate the comic stylings of Arnold Schwarzenegger and it counts because
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  it's car insurance with State Farm You know as we said in the intro car
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  adjacent news car adjacent commercials and then DeVito To reprise the twins
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  role that was bad to me was the best part It's epic, but to Tanya's point
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  it is a tie for first in my book But if we're going to get super specific I
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  think the number one commercial, the one that really pulls at the heartstrings,
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  the one that gives you the feels, the Volkswagen American love story commercial.
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  Oh my God.
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  What a piece of advertising going back to the days of like Das Auto, all the
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  things that they alluded to in Mad Men.
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  Felt like old timey Madison Avenue marketing, and it was beautiful.
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  It was super well done.
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  The cinematography was a made all the black and whites and this
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  beetle, you know, going through town ends up in the showroom and
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  then all the little clips of Herbie.
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  And, oh man, what a great commercial.
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  It's long though, too.
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  If you watch the unedited version, it's like over two minutes long.
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  There's all sorts of other people qualify as great commercials from
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  the Super Bowl, like the Dunk Kings.
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  That was stupid.
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  I just didn't get it.
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  It was painful.
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  I'm looking for the car commercials because they are a staple during
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  the Super Bowl, that there's going to be car commercials.
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  And there's been some epic ones in the past, like the 400Z commercial
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  with Eugene Levy and the Fast and Furious stuff, the Transporter ones
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  from back in the day with the Audi.
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  I mean, there's been some really interesting commercials.
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  They weren't as memorable this time around, other than the Volkswagen one, and
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  then Probably the Christopher Walken one.
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  Like the Kia one is, it's a normal Kia commercial.
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  It's like the same commercial they had at Christmas time, basically.
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  It probably was the rejected Christmas commercial and they
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  saved it for the Superbowl.
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  It's like the B reel of that one, get the boppy where he's driving
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  through the cement tunnels and he's driving to go get the little bear and
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  bring it back to his son or whatever.
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  Yeah.
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  That was the Christmas commercial.
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  Yeah.
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  But were they a good neighbor?
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  We posted the list in our show notes of all the Super Bowl commercials.
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  I think there's like 50 plus of them out there, but we obviously weren't
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  highlighting the car commercial specifically, I enjoyed all of them.
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  Honestly, whether it was the Tacoma commercial or the Kawasaki's or
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  whatever, they were all pretty good, but you know, I wish.
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  That Rolex had commercials like these, because that's what's missing.
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  Like the Rolex watch or the Rolex race?
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  The Rolex race.
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  They don't have cool commercials.
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  Like it's always the NBC sports, blah, blah, blah, fill the airtime.
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  So I don't know about you guys.
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  We did a viewing party here.
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  We had people rolling in and out through both days of the race.
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  And, you know, I tried to stay up as much as I possibly could.
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  Like always, I think I give Le Mans a little bit more attention than I do
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  Rolex, because the track is shorter and it does kind of get boring.
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  Unless something happens in the middle of the night.
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  This year was like any other year at Rolex.
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  Wouldn't you say, Brad?
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  Yeah, there was nothing really that stood out.
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  Other than cars were dropping like flies.
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  Yeah, but every so often they go through years like that.
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  They do.
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  And unfortunately it was Porsche's race to lose.
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  The odds were stacked in their favor.
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  They had more cars than everybody else.
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  We saw the demise of all the Cadillacs and the Acuras, the BMWs.
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  By the end it was like, all right, well, it's going to be Porsche,
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  Porsche, or maybe it's Porsche.
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  I don't know who's going to win this race.
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  There's people arguing, oh, the 963, da da da da da.
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  I still don't think that car holds a candle to some of the
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  other ones that are out there.
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  The difference is that it lasted the 24 hours, and that's really
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  the point of an endurance race.
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  But in terms of speed, in terms of performance, I don't Think it holds
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  a candle to some of the other cars, especially when we go back to Lamont's
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  this summer and we put it up against the Ferrari 499 again, I think the Ferrari
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  is just going to clean their clocks.
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  Porsche didn't do well at Lamont last year either.
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  Nope.
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  They did not.
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  No, they didn't have a good showing at all.
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  Obviously this was the season opener for IMSA, but how is Porsche doing in WEC?
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  So there's eight races in the WEC series, rounds they call them.
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  And so the calendar started with Qatar, which is sort of like a
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  prologue race that happened last week.
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  So if you're listening to this on Tuesday, when it aired,
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  that race has already ended.
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  And then they're going to do round one at Qatar on March the 2nd, then they
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  go to Italy in April, Belgium in May.
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  Then they're at Lamar in June, Brazil in July.
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  They're in the U S in September.
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  Then they go to Japan in September and then they're in Bahrain in November.
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  So the calendar runs February to November, much like our show does, but
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  there's only eight races in the season.
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  I need to really pay more attention to WEC.
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  Well, you should, because you know what else they've done?
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  They've signed a contract so that you can tune in to WEC on what was HBO, HBO max.
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  It's just called max now.
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  So if you have a subscription to max, you're going to be able to pick up WC.
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  Now, if you don't have a subscription to max.
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  You have a decision to make because you could become a member of the ACO
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  USA, which if you look at the annual membership, it's a little bit cheaper than
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  signing up for HBO and you can get access to the live stream of those WEC races.
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  So you kind of have a choice to make in terms of how you want to watch the eight
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  rounds of the WEC to include Le Mans.
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  So the cool part about this is if you're at home this year.
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  For Lamont, you'll be able to watch it on two different services, HBO
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  max and the ACO streaming service.
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  So I think that's really, really cool.
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  That is cool.
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  I'm looking forward to watching.
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  Well, there is some good news coming out of Rolex.
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  It wasn't like last year where we had Porsches and GT three trying to take each
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  other out and some action there in the last five minutes, I was thinking that
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  the end was going to be a little bit more climactic than it was, but really the one
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  thing that we wanted to celebrate was.
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  The Ferrari 296 and more importantly, Reesey competition winning their class
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  and GTLM, so it's a double win for Reesey winning Rolex for the first
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  time and winning it in the new Ferrari.
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  Last year, we had still had that mix of 296, 488 going on.
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  And it wasn't a great showing for the 296, but this year
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  you're starting it off, right?
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  And it'll be good to see the 296, hopefully win the championship.
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  Cause it got really close last year up to third place, despite not
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  starting off the season, very strong.
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  You know, last year we were at Rolex in person, whole different
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  ball game, watching it on TV, man.
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  It is so nice to just flop on the couch and go to sleep.
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  Well, there's that too.
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  I'm going to forget that and still want to go back again at some point.
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  Maybe when the kids are older, I can take one of them with me.
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  I think it's more fun to revisit every couple of years
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  and you kind of leapfrog it.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I wouldn't do it annual.
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  It would just be brutal.
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  You know, that does kick off the IMSA schedule for the year, which has a lot
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  more rounds than the WEC schedule has.
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  But the thing to remember about the IMSA schedule Look at it closely, because
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  if you're into the prototype cars, they don't run all the rounds in a season.
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  There's tracks like Lime Rock, there's tracks like VIR, Mid Ohio, where it's only
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  gonna be the GT cars, the amateurs and the pros, running on those smaller tracks.
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  And the reason they do that is all those, those tracks are safe, but
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  they're just not designed from a safety perspective for the larger LMP cars and
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  the type of speeds that they can carry.
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  You know, those natural terrain courses like a mid Ohio or a lime rock that
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  were designed eons ago at this point, great places to be all of us here have
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  driven on them, they're fantastic, but.
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  I can understand when you got these 200 plus mile an hour missiles, that there's
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  just no room for error and there's just not enough runoff at some of those tracks.
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  So pay attention to what you're tuning into.
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  So don't be disappointed if you suddenly realize, man, where
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  did all the prototypes go?
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  It's just, they run a slightly different schedule than everybody else does.
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  Alright, so we gotta move on.
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  Just like every February, it's time for us to reflect on the previous
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  season, and like I said at the beginning, this is the Season 4 finale.
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  What do you think, guys?
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  Let's put together a little playlist of episodes that people should tune into
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  if they're listening to the show for the first time, or if they're not caught up.
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  I think Season 4 was pretty epic, wouldn't you say?
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  Yes, of course.
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  I would say that the biggest I don't know the whole season
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  was our movie review of that.
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  God awful stunt man.
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  It's not two girls, one formula.
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  Was it this season?
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  Did we also did the, um, Travolta movie?
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  So trading paint was in this season and it was released in this season.
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  The stunt man actually comes out in season five.
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  We've recorded it in season four.
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  It's a little spoiler alert.
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  And there's another everything I learned from movies, Steve and Izzy
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  crossover coming in season five, which is going to be a lot of fun as well.
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  So I don't want to give that one away.
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  Obviously a highlight amongst all the wonderful guests that came on a true
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  gem was none other than Mario Andretti.
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  Episode 200 goes down in the books as probably one of the most.
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  Epic guests we've ever had on the show and that's not to discount any of the
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  other celebrities we've had on the show But we did have the one and only Mario
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  Andretti on break fix So if you have not listened to that go back and check out
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  episode 200 you can learn all about his time in Formula One, his relationship
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  with Ferrari, his time at Le Mans, as well as some adventures he had with
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  Bobby Unser racing at Pike's Peak.
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  So those are some of the things that we talked about on that episode.
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  And I got to give a big shout out to William Big Money Ross for co
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  hosting that episode with me, where we got to interview Mario Andretti.
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  So lots of good stuff there.
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  Well, Brad, you know, I know your favorite section of the drive thru
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  is Lost and Found, but that goes hand in hand with probably one
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  of the most popular sub series.
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  On break fix, which is what should I buy?
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  We did quite a few of those this season.
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  I mean, I liked the whole series of going through the decades.
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  We didn't start that in season four.
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  I think we started that in season three.
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  So no, we started with the nineties, didn't we?
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  And then we kind of bounced around.
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  Yep.
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  Those were some of my favorites.
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  And then the, uh, kit cars and posers.
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  Episode I thought was kind of fun just because you didn't know what to expect.
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  Everybody came to the table with something different.
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  I learned of a car that I wanted to buy.
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  Oh, that Coontosh that isn't a Coontosh.
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  Yeah, that thing's slick.
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  Yes, the, the Foontosh.
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  And we actually had, I don't want to call it an oddball.
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  What should I buy in there?
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  And if you're playing the break, fix trivia game at home, it's the only episode
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  I technically wasn't on, even though I was present, which is what Tanya?
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  I know that one.
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  I was in a, what should I buy?
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  The ladies, the EV, the EVs.
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  You hosted the EVs.
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  That was this season?
• 16:28
  Yes.
• 16:28
  That was the beginning of the season.
• 16:30
  That's how far back that was.
• 16:31
  Well, we've gone through like the hundredth day of January.
• 16:35
  So like, it feels like it was three years ago.
• 16:37
  My goodness.
• 16:38
  That was an excellent episode.
• 16:39
  Highly recommended.
• 16:40
  What a great panel of ladies.
• 16:42
  It was.
• 16:43
  And a lot of people have commented on that episode.
• 16:45
  I've actually had some other ladies that I've met who have asked for advice about
• 16:49
  buying a new car and I've sent them the link to the episode and they came back
• 16:52
  and they're like, that was awesome.
• 16:53
  What an excellent job the panel did on that.
• 16:56
  And I have to say, you guys did a fantastic job and it is probably
• 16:59
  one of my favorite episodes because I had nothing to do with it.
• 17:02
  It's also probably one of the better, what should I buy is cause it's less.
• 17:05
  Bullshitty.
• 17:06
  More factual based and less like happy hour.
• 17:11
  Every joke has a grain of truth in it, man.
• 17:13
  That's all I know.
• 17:14
  We crossed that 200 episode threshold, but we also crossed
• 17:17
  the 250th episode threshold.
• 17:20
  And as you're listening to this, we're beyond the 300th episode threshold now.
• 17:24
  So it's been a really long year.
• 17:25
  Season four is by far our biggest season.
• 17:29
  And for episode 250, Mountain Man Dan and I got a chance to To sit down
• 17:33
  with Bryce Kenny from Monster Jam.
• 17:36
  You know, we've been reaching out to different disciplines, trying to get folks
• 17:39
  to come on and represent their motorsport and talk about it, what it's like.
• 17:43
  And you know, Monster Jam came a call and we were like, Hey, why not?
• 17:47
  Bryce was a great guest.
• 17:48
  He's written a new book.
• 17:49
  He's a motivational speaker.
• 17:50
  He has lots of really interesting things to say about the business of racing.
• 17:54
  So it's not just all about doing tricks with big trucks and big tires.
• 17:58
  He really has a message he's trying to put out there.
• 18:00
  And his life story is pretty interesting as well.
• 18:02
  And he gives a lot of credit to his grandfather and growing up
• 18:06
  through the top thrill dragster discipline of motor sports.
• 18:09
  So a very dynamic episode.
• 18:12
  So if you didn't get a chance to tune into that, I highly recommend
• 18:14
  going back and checking it out.
• 18:15
  Definitely.
• 18:16
  So I have a confession to make.
• 18:18
  I knew it.
• 18:21
  Welcome to the confessional.
• 18:23
  No.
• 18:28
  Come tell us your confession, my child.
• 18:30
  This is why I tell people they need to sign up for Patreon and check out the
• 18:33
  behind the scenes, because you never know the bloopers that'll come out of an
• 18:37
  episode, the screw ups, the things that just get left on the cutting room floor.
• 18:41
  But we had this moment on one of our episodes and that was actually
• 18:47
  the Bob Garrison Apple 935 episode.
• 18:50
  So like I said, I have to confess.
• 18:51
  You can see this in the behind the scenes.
• 18:53
  It's hilarious.
• 18:54
  So Bob is on the phone with Mike Carr and I, and Mike is our resident
• 18:57
  golden age of sports car era guru.
• 18:59
  Before we got on the episode, we're doing our research.
• 19:02
  We're trying to figure out who this guy is.
• 19:03
  And all we were told is you need to interview him.
• 19:05
  You need to interview him.
• 19:06
  Blah, blah, blah.
• 19:06
  He's 90 years old.
• 19:07
  Get him on the show.
• 19:08
  Okay.
• 19:08
  I reached out to the records archivist.
• 19:11
  It's at the International Motor Racing Research Center, I reached out to
• 19:13
  Revs, nobody's got any information on this guy, like, who is this
• 19:16
  Bob character, like, I don't know.
• 19:18
  So we get on there, we kind of like tee him up with these easy questions, and
• 19:22
  we're literally trying to get to know him on the fly, and then at some point, the
• 19:26
  story just diverges and he starts talking about Steve Jobs and Wozniak and Apple
• 19:33
  and he had already talked about how he was developing these 935s and this and this.
• 19:38
  I'll never forget the look on Mike Carr's face when I think at the same
• 19:41
  time we got struck by lightning we figured out who he was and we're like
• 19:45
  holy crap this is the Apple 935 guy like this is one of the most iconic.
• 19:50
  Porsche race cars, like of all time.
• 19:53
  When you watch the behind the scenes, you kind of see how it all unfolds.
• 19:56
  And then how we try to pick up all the pieces and rebuild this episode.
• 20:00
  Because again, lightning struck and we're like, Whoa.
• 20:02
  So when you listen to the edited version, it's an incredible
• 20:05
  story and Bob's story is amazing.
• 20:07
  And when I see people that have decorated their car with that
• 20:11
  livery, I run up to them and like.
• 20:12
  Do you know the story of the Apple nine 35?
• 20:14
  Do you know why this livery is so important?
• 20:16
  And they're like, no, well, we interviewed the guy that had the original card.
• 20:20
  You need to check out this episode.
• 20:21
  So I always like to recommend this as one of our best ofs.
• 20:24
  If you're putting together a playlist of break fix episodes, so check out the
• 20:28
  Bob Gerritsen and Apple nine 35 episode.
• 20:31
  Brad, we tried to cater to the two wheel community this year.
• 20:33
  I know that's a soft spot for you.
• 20:35
  Motorcyclists, the traveling, Larry lives, have a cool and Elspeth beard.
• 20:41
  All of these guests had amazing stories.
• 20:43
  Larry going around the country, basically doing his own one
• 20:47
  lap of America on a motorcycle.
• 20:49
  Clive who's holds the record on a BMW motorcycle at Pikes Peak.
• 20:52
  And then you got Elspeth beard who went around the world on a motorcycle.
• 20:56
  I mean, absolutely amazing stories.
• 20:58
  And they weren't the only bikers.
• 20:59
  That we had on the show in season four, but those are
• 21:02
  three of the most epic stories.
• 21:04
  So when are we going to have you and McGregor?
• 21:06
  It's coming, man.
• 21:06
  It's kind of, I've, I've reached out to Hollywood, you know, they said, we'll
• 21:09
  do lunch, you know, we'll call you.
• 21:11
  Don't call us.
• 21:12
  Emma McDreamy.
• 21:13
  I'll do it together.
• 21:13
  A hundred percent.
• 21:14
  And, and Eric Bana too.
• 21:15
  That's another one.
• 21:16
  I want, you know, to trifecta.
• 21:17
  Love the beast.
• 21:18
  What about the crossover episodes we had this year?
• 21:20
  Dude, we had a ton of crossover episodes.
• 21:22
  I mean, obviously we have Steve and Izzy on every quarter doing
• 21:25
  movies and stuff like that, and we're a little delinquent on getting
• 21:27
  them out on time, but that's okay.
• 21:29
  We had an.
• 21:29
  Action pack season this year.
• 21:31
  We had episodes with like Danny P on cars.
• 21:33
  We did stuff with Mark Green from cars.
• 21:35
  Yeah, just you name it.
• 21:36
  Right.
• 21:37
  One of the ones that was the most fun and she was on Tanya's ladies and Evie episode
• 21:42
  was I got called up by Carolyn Ford again, and she wanted to do a crossover episode
• 21:47
  with her friend, Tracy Bannon from MITRE to talk about cybersecurity and cars,
• 21:51
  which actually related back to a article that we wrote that was on gt motorsports.
• 21:56
  org tying together.
• 21:58
  Automotive security and cybersecurity kind of stuff.
• 22:00
  And we did it as a Halloween spooktacular kind of thing.
• 22:04
  That was the vibe of it, but it turned into a really great conversation about
• 22:08
  data hygiene, renting cars, you know, where you should use your mobile device.
• 22:13
  Don't ever plug it into that Malibu that you picked up from Hertz,
• 22:16
  you know, all that kind of stuff.
• 22:17
  It's actually a very informative episode, not always to do with
• 22:21
  cars, but a lot to do with cyber.
• 22:23
  And it's also fun to find out that Tracy has a fun car
• 22:26
  herself and it's one of Tanya's.
• 22:28
  Favorite Mercedes, one of the older SLS from the eighties.
• 22:31
  So gorgeous car, Tracy's a friend.
• 22:34
  We hope to have her back on the show, but if you haven't checked out, look that up.
• 22:37
  That was right on Halloween this past year.
• 22:40
  So another cool episode we did sort of how to left field talking car
• 22:44
  adjacent, just like cybersecurity.
• 22:46
  We had David page, the creator of diners, drive ins and dives.
• 22:50
  From Food Network on Brake Fix.
• 22:52
  And that was a lot of fun.
• 22:54
  And the Pit Stop episode, which is available on Patreon, is a great one
• 22:57
  too, because he talks about owning a Maserati Biturbo and what that was like.
• 23:02
  And his dad frying the clutch and all this fun stuff.
• 23:04
  He shared some really great stories.
• 23:05
  And we talked about how food influenced cars and vice versa.
• 23:09
  Just like we did that episode way back when, Brad, remember
• 23:11
  how we did music in cars?
• 23:12
  It was kind of in the similar vein.
• 23:14
  So it was a lot of fun.
• 23:15
  Didn't it come out in that episode?
• 23:17
  Spoiler alert.
• 23:18
  That the red Camaro that Guy Fieri drives is actually David's?
• 23:23
  The original one was, and then he didn't tell the story, but alluded to
• 23:27
  the fact that that one was wrecked.
• 23:31
  And then they bought another one to replace it with.
• 23:33
  So it's a replica of the original Camaro.
• 23:36
  That was David's.
• 23:37
  Correct.
• 23:37
  And the new one apparently is Guy Fieri's Camaro.
• 23:39
  So like he owns it or whatever.
• 23:41
  He owns several Camaros, but yeah.
• 23:42
  Is it Fieri or Fieri?
• 23:44
  Depends on how you want to say it.
• 23:45
  Just like, is it Favre or Favre?
• 23:46
  Do you have those Favre with, uh, Chianti?
• 23:50
  Favre beans?
• 23:51
  Exactly.
• 23:52
  A little out of left field, but dovetailing into one another.
• 23:55
  You know, we did the whole DeLorean Legacy Project mini series with Kat DeLorean.
• 23:59
  We had the designers and some of the engineers on and all that kind of stuff.
• 24:02
  Coming from that, we also got an opportunity to sit down with Malcolm
• 24:05
  Bricklin, who was very close with John DeLorean back in the day.
• 24:09
  What a character.
• 24:10
  That's a two part episode.
• 24:11
  The first half covers the early days, the Bricklin SV1, how he brought
• 24:15
  Subaru to America and founded all that really, really interesting
• 24:19
  story behind Malcolm Bricklin.
• 24:21
  And then the second half of that talks about the new car that he's building
• 24:25
  under the banner of visionary vehicles.
• 24:28
  So he's got this vehicle called the three EV.
• 24:30
  It's actually a three wheeled EV, really, really innovative and interesting stuff.
• 24:34
  And at well into his.
• 24:36
  Twilight years.
• 24:37
  I mean, he's still trying to build cars and trying to get
• 24:40
  out there and revolutionize the market and shake things up.
• 24:43
  Really interesting to get to sit down and talk to Malcolm Bricklin
• 24:47
  about his 60 year run, if not more in the automotive industry.
• 24:51
  And Tanya, you mentioned The Stuntman in season four, but there's
• 24:55
  another movie you forgot that we reviewed with Steve and Izzy.
• 24:57
  Corvette Summer?
• 24:58
  Wait, no, that wasn't this season.
• 24:59
  That was No, that was our hundredth episode.
• 25:01
  That was way back when.
• 25:02
  Yeah, I don't listen to podcasts.
• 25:05
  This was where we had Scotsman Gabriel Byrne playing an Italian
• 25:09
  Oh, that horrible Lamborghini movie.
• 25:13
  Yeah, you remember that?
• 25:14
  Oh, that one, like, awkward scene that didn't need to be there.
• 25:17
  Yeah, okay.
• 25:18
  The whole movie was that scene that didn't need to be there.
• 25:21
  Oh yeah, because we watched that at Rolex.
• 25:23
  We did, along with that weird Adam Driver movie where he's going down the
• 25:27
  river in a grand marquee's woody wagon.
• 25:30
  That was the most bizarre, yeah, I don't remember what that was called.
• 25:33
  That was so weird.
• 25:35
  Yeah, we did a double header.
• 25:36
  It was like a double feature.
• 25:37
  We're gonna watch that and then we're like.
• 25:39
  Well, Lamborghini's gonna be like, a walk in the park.
• 25:41
  We get to the end of Lamborghini, and thank God they threw up that
• 25:44
  disclaimer that says, This isn't even based on anything in reality, it's
• 25:48
  a loose interpretation of fiction.
• 25:50
  Ugh, what a mess.
• 25:51
  I gotta say this, though.
• 25:52
  Season 4 is not quite over yet, guys.
• 25:55
  This is the second to last episode because there's one more because February
• 26:00
  has an extra day in it this year.
• 26:02
  So you get an extra episode in season four.
• 26:05
  Leap episode, leap season.
• 26:07
  That's exactly it.
• 26:08
  And I'm not going to tell you what it's about, but it's a good one.
• 26:11
  It's got a great panel of folks on that.
• 26:13
  So tune in on Thursday for the.
• 26:17
  Extra bonus season four episode.
• 26:19
  And we kick off season five on March 1st, heading into international women's month.
• 26:24
  And I tell you what, it is an action packed season five.
• 26:27
  We have some awesome content coming.
• 26:29
  And now that we've expanded into the motoring podcast network, look for more
• 26:32
  episodes from the Ferrari marketplace.
• 26:34
  From John Summers, the motoring historian, there's going to be Evening with a Legend.
• 26:38
  We have a new show coming called Pixels to Pavement.
• 26:40
  There's all sorts of other really cool stuff coming in Season 5.
• 26:44
  And so we committed, even just on break fix, to double the amount of episodes
• 26:49
  we were going to do in Season 5.
• 26:50
  Season five.
• 26:51
  But this is going to take us way over the top.
• 26:53
  So here comes episode 500.
• 26:55
  What Eric's not saying is that starting March 1st, we're going to be releasing one
• 27:00
  episode every hour for the entire year.
• 27:03
  If only.
• 27:04
  Yes.
• 27:04
  If only.
• 27:05
  The goal is to make sure that people tuning into the show for the first time,
• 27:09
  you have to listen to break fix every day for 365 days in order to get caught up.
• 27:14
  So here's a question for you.
• 27:15
  Just, you know, looking into our five year plan, who's going to have
• 27:18
  more episodes, top gear or brake fix?
• 27:21
  It's going to be cars.
• 27:22
  Yeah.
• 27:24
  Yeah.
• 27:25
  2, 500 and change.
• 27:27
  And I have to give a shout out to Mark Green.
• 27:29
  He has publicly announced.
• 27:30
  That he is looking to retire.
• 27:32
  He's looking for new ownership of cars.
• 27:34
  Yeah.
• 27:34
  He's looking to move on.
• 27:35
  I mean, what an incredible journey he's been on.
• 27:37
  And we've been fortunate enough to work with Mark, to be mentored
• 27:40
  by Mark, have Mark on the show.
• 27:41
  We were on cars.
• 27:42
  Yeah.
• 27:42
  A couple of times ourselves.
• 27:44
  I mean, what a great guy.
• 27:45
  What he is entrenched in the car community.
• 27:48
  He knows so many people.
• 27:49
  I don't know if you could ever, you could spend the next 10 years
• 27:51
  trying to get caught up on cars.
• 27:52
  Yeah.
• 27:52
  I mean, 2, 500 episodes.
• 27:54
  What's on his playlist.
• 27:55
  Start with Eric and my episodes.
• 27:57
  That's right.
• 27:57
  But listen to it on break fix.
• 27:58
  Cause you can get it there too and you don't have to look for it.
• 28:00
  Yes.
• 28:02
  Well guys, it's time we switch over and talk about Volkswagen,
• 28:05
  Audi and Porsche news.
• 28:07
  And I have to pull back something I said last month.
• 28:10
  Maybe we spoke too soon.
• 28:12
  The end is nigh.
• 28:13
  The GTI is dead.
• 28:14
  Well, the day after we released drive through number 41.
• 28:18
  Volkswagen came out and said, here's the design for the Mark 9 GTI.
• 28:22
  They were probably listening to the podcast, and they heard us, and he was
• 28:25
  like, well, we're not taking that shit.
• 28:27
  We're gonna release these images, and we're gonna tell BrakeFix to suck it.
• 28:31
  And that's what we got.
• 28:31
  Can you tell me the difference between This car and the Scirocco at this
• 28:35
  point, four doors instead of two.
• 28:37
  I mean, if we squish that nose anymore, it's going to look like the third gen,
• 28:41
  the Scirocco replaces the two door GTI and the four doors, just the golf, four
• 28:48
  doors, a Jetta, they get rid of the Jetta because nobody's buying that car anymore.
• 28:53
  No, because it's the size of one Jetta is the size of a facade.
• 28:56
  What are you talking about?
• 28:57
  The facade's the size of an S class.
• 28:59
  Would you bring up a valid point?
• 29:00
  Right?
• 29:00
  So we got all this shuffling going on and Tanya sent me something earlier
• 29:04
  about how the Scirocco might come back as an EV and all this kind of stuff.
• 29:07
  I don't want to get my hopes up.
• 29:08
  I don't even want to acknowledge it.
• 29:10
  Just saying the word Scirocco just kind of pisses me off.
• 29:13
  Like I want one so bad.
• 29:15
  But I have to wait until they become a gray market car to get the good one.
• 29:19
  Right?
• 29:19
  Because how long is it going to 2008, 2009, 2010, those
• 29:22
  Scirocco R's are fantastic.
• 29:24
  And I'm like, ah, it's killing me.
• 29:26
  But on the other side of the coin, we've talked about how the Passat is gone.
• 29:30
  You know, the jet is huge.
• 29:31
  The golf, I don't know, whatever, but is anybody really surprised or
• 29:35
  does anybody actually care that the Arteon is dead ahead of schedule?
• 29:39
  The what?
• 29:40
  I can count on one finger how many Arteons I've actually seen in the wild.
• 29:44
  Every time I see it, I'm like, is that the new Phaeton?
• 29:47
  I don't think it's Arteon.
• 29:48
  I don't understand the point of the car.
• 29:50
  They had the Passat, which was a fairly luxurious car, before they Americanized
• 29:54
  it and made it more like the Camry.
• 29:56
  Yeah, I don't get it either.
• 29:57
  And, and I could never figure out the Arteon's place, right?
• 30:00
  Because, as all the VW's got bigger, seemingly moved from, let's say the A
• 30:05
  chassis to the B chassis and the B's moved to the C's and so on down the line.
• 30:08
  Was the RT on the A6?
• 30:09
  The thing is huge, which is why I jokingly say it reminds me of the
• 30:13
  Phaeton because the Phaeton was an A8, but the A8's gotten bigger.
• 30:16
  To your point, Brad, I don't know where it fit.
• 30:18
  The Phaeton was like a show of Creative force at Volkswagen to say, Hey, here's
• 30:24
  what our engineers and design team can do.
• 30:27
  If money is no object, this is what they can do kind of thing.
• 30:30
  But this car doesn't, I just don't understand the point of it.
• 30:33
  The Phaeton I thought was a statement.
• 30:34
  It was, but they didn't need to build the Phaeton and they lost
• 30:37
  money on everyone that they built.
• 30:39
  That was the beauty of Volkswagen in that era was they would
• 30:43
  just build shit to build it.
• 30:45
  And they would make up the difference selling clean diesels.
• 30:47
  Yes, yes, yes.
• 30:49
  And then the clean diesels turned out to be Forever unclean.
• 30:53
  Yeah, forever unclean diesels.
• 30:54
  Thanks, Bosch.
• 30:55
  ILLUSION!
• 30:57
  You know what?
• 30:57
  Consumer Reports is at it again.
• 30:59
  And you know how I feel about this.
• 31:01
  I've written articles about this time and time again.
• 31:03
  You know, Consumer Reports on your next track toy and how it's
• 31:06
  an unreliable piece of crap.
• 31:07
  Here we go again.
• 31:09
  And basically the punchline is, don't buy a Volkswagen, buy a Mazda.
• 31:12
  Really?
• 31:13
  That's not the main focus of it.
• 31:15
  That just happens to be one set of the cars that they put in there.
• 31:18
  Aren't we talking about Volkswagens?
• 31:20
  But you're insinuating, like clickbait, that the whole article
• 31:23
  is just about that when it's not.
• 31:24
  Oh, I know.
• 31:25
  It's about punching holes in everybody else's line card.
• 31:28
  Let's back this Consumer Reports article train up a hot second because the
• 31:33
  title is not to buy these popular cars offering these alternatives instead.
• 31:38
  I'm sorry, the Chevy Trax is a popular car.
• 31:42
  Okay, yeah, you'd avoid it, but it's a popular car really.
• 31:46
  I find fault with the whole thing just off the bat.
• 31:48
  This is like the Mary of Kill List.
• 31:50
  Marry this car, kill this car.
• 31:52
  So I agree with Tanya.
• 31:53
  What is a Trax?
• 31:54
  It's the evolution of the GeoTracker, isn't it?
• 31:56
  They're a little weird, smaller SUV.
• 31:59
  Didn't you just describe the GeoTracker?
• 32:01
  Sure.
• 32:01
  I did have one as a rental once.
• 32:03
  I mean, it went from point A to point B, but it was.
• 32:05
  Didn't Buick have something too?
• 32:07
  Over, under the quality and ride of an Impala.
• 32:11
  Oh man.
• 32:13
  I would take the Chevy Trax.
• 32:16
  There you go.
• 32:16
  So one of them on this list is kind of funny.
• 32:19
  The Mercedes CLA, the claw into the club, a good neighbor, but in this case, the
• 32:25
  alternative is to buy an a three and their gripe is it's an all around better car,
• 32:30
  but it doesn't have a ton of leg room.
• 32:32
  Well, the Benz doesn't have a lot of headroom.
• 32:34
  So which one is it?
• 32:35
  Well, they said the Benz has no backseat.
• 32:37
  Essentially.
• 32:37
  But the Benz is a bigger car than the A3.
• 32:40
  I don't This is weird.
• 32:40
  Well, then that's quite telling if it's a huge riverboat that you can't
• 32:44
  put a passenger in the back seat.
• 32:46
  The Benz is a longer car.
• 32:48
  There's no headroom because of that stupid coupe like greenhouse.
• 32:53
  It's like the BMW SUVs, the X4 They've got that really stupid greenhouse
• 32:58
  that makes it so you can't use the back half of the car at all.
• 33:01
  And it reminds me of the old BMWs, if you remember the three series in the
• 33:04
  five series right around the E 46 and the E 30 nines and even the E 36 s.
• 33:09
  They were like, the M five is so much bigger.
• 33:11
  It has three inches extra leg room in the back compared to the three series.
• 33:16
  And I'm like, the five series should be bigger, but it's really not.
• 33:19
  It's when you get to the seven and so on that they get drastically bigger.
• 33:22
  So yes.
• 33:24
  On the road, the Mercedes looks huge, but to your point, it has a lot less
• 33:28
  headroom than the A3, so aside all this other stuff, don't buy a VW, buy a Mazda,
• 33:32
  that was the one that stuck out to me, was the Mercedes Audi thing, and I'm
• 33:36
  like, if I'm spending the money, I don't know, if you're rolling up to work, what
• 33:40
  do you want to be seen in, you know?
• 33:41
  To me, the A3 is a little bit too Jetta.
• 33:44
  And then there's don't buy a C Class, buy a 3 Series.
• 33:46
  But you know what has tons of headroom, tons of legroom, is this next car.
• 33:50
  A convertible.
• 33:51
  Oh, no.
• 33:52
  This thing is absolute fire.
• 33:55
  This is the RS6 by Audi, Avant, which means station wagon, GTO concept.
• 34:02
  Find something wrong with this car, please.
• 34:06
  Silence because it's perfect.
• 34:08
  It's beautiful.
• 34:09
  It's a wagon high horsepower.
• 34:11
  It's all wheel drive It's still gas powered.
• 34:13
  This thing is a freaking monster and it has a spoiler on it It is just
• 34:17
  beautiful and that homage to the late 80s early 90s Early Haywood,
• 34:22
  Honstuch, IMSA, GTO, Audi 90.
• 34:25
  There's only going to be 85 of them.
• 34:27
  How much is this thing going to cost?
• 34:28
  Like 350, 000, 700, 000.
• 34:32
  And then it's going to sell at auction for 20 million.
• 34:34
  A hundred percent.
• 34:35
  The thing that does it for me, I love the white wheels.
• 34:37
  Oh, they're gorgeous.
• 34:39
  The white wheels do it for me.
• 34:40
  And they remind me of the old S4 wheels.
• 34:42
  They do have a similar style to that.
• 34:44
  You're a hundred percent right.
• 34:45
  I can attest as an owner of white wheels.
• 34:48
  They are extremely hard to keep clean.
• 34:51
  What?
• 34:51
  You know what else is hard to keep clean?
• 34:53
  I'm just kidding.
• 34:53
  We'll get to that later.
• 34:54
  Oh boy.
• 34:55
  Smell Tesla in that statement.
• 34:57
  That's sarcasm.
• 34:58
  Race goes brown.
• 34:59
  You know, I know Tanya loves small little hot hatches, especially Fiat
• 35:03
  Pandas, but who doesn't love a VW Lupo?
• 35:06
  Making over 500 horsepower.
• 35:09
  I mean, why not?
• 35:10
  Right?
• 35:11
  This is one of those WTFN moments.
• 35:13
  Look at this thing.
• 35:14
  I'm surprised it goes without screeching tires.
• 35:17
  No, you know why it goes?
• 35:19
  It's not front wheel drive.
• 35:20
  They did the whole Renault Turbo 2 thing.
• 35:22
  They put the motor in the back.
• 35:23
  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 35:24
  I know, I know.
• 35:25
  Thing is mid engine.
• 35:26
  Look how much they had to widen it.
• 35:27
  The wheel literally sits outside of the original fender well.
• 35:31
  This thing is bonkers.
• 35:32
  And it's got an RS4 swap, right?
• 35:35
  So, I mean, this thing is an absolute rocket ship.
• 35:38
  This makes me happy.
• 35:39
  We need more of this.
• 35:40
  Oh, I'm sure there's a lot more of this, just not here.
• 35:43
  I mean, can you imagine getting smoked by this thing at like spa or the Nürburgring?
• 35:48
  It looks like it could smoke you though.
• 35:50
  It's incredible.
• 35:51
  And you know what else it has, Brad?
• 35:52
  It's got white wheels.
• 35:53
  And it's got the bumper bands.
• 35:55
  It does.
• 35:55
  What he yells when he, when he goes by.
• 35:58
  Cinder!
• 36:00
  All right, we need to move on for Volkswagen out of Porsche news and
• 36:03
  talk about the rest of Lower Saxony.
• 36:05
  We actually have some BMW news for a change.
• 36:07
  Can you believe it, Brad?
• 36:08
  They're still in business.
• 36:09
  There was some Mercedes news and I don't remember what it was.
• 36:12
  Oh well.
• 36:12
  Their cars should be avoided.
• 36:14
  No.
• 36:15
  They are beautiful though.
• 36:16
  I mean those GTRs, GTSs, what was the SLS?
• 36:20
  Those things are just unbelievably amazing.
• 36:22
  Oh no, I love Mercedes cars.
• 36:23
  All AMGs.
• 36:24
  We kid because we care.
• 36:26
  Yes.
• 36:26
  I mean, if anybody wants to give me a Goldwing Mercedes.
• 36:30
  Yes, a thousand percent.
• 36:32
  We will give Tanya an A Class.
• 36:33
  No, no, no, I want the Coupe.
• 36:35
  Oh my god, those SLSs, GT3s, all those, god.
• 36:38
  And I told you guys before, I got a chance to drive a CLK Black, which
• 36:42
  is what Clarkson owned years ago.
• 36:44
  That's the predecessor to the SLS and all that stuff.
• 36:46
  Dude, that car was unbelievably good.
• 36:49
  Unbelievably good.
• 36:50
  I got in the driver's seat and I'm like, nah, I don't know.
• 36:53
  This is going to be lame, but out on track.
• 36:56
  Ooh, what a weapon.
• 36:57
  And I can only imagine it was good.
• 36:59
  Then they've only gotten better since, right?
• 37:02
  Because that's the German way you continue to refine those
• 37:04
  ideas and they get amazing.
• 37:06
  So I can't imagine what a new GTS or GTR is like in comparison to that CLK black.
• 37:13
  But that's not what we're here to talk about.
• 37:14
  We're here to talk about BMW.
• 37:15
  Will they, won't they?
• 37:16
  This hokey pokey continues.
• 37:18
  What won't they, will they?
• 37:19
  The manual.
• 37:20
  Weren't they the ones saying that they were going to be the ultimate holdout?
• 37:23
  They were going to be the last ones with the petrol engine.
• 37:25
  They were going to be the last ones with the manual transmission.
• 37:28
  BMW is going to be the long pole in the tent.
• 37:31
  Sure.
• 37:32
  Yeah, okay.
• 37:32
  They're going to be the flag in the wind that changes direction,
• 37:35
  however the wind blows.
• 37:36
  So BMW is now saying, It's time to say goodbye to the manual transmission
• 37:40
  again, because we went through this with the M three and the M four, they
• 37:45
  got rid of the manual transmission.
• 37:46
  And then the owners all took up pitchforks and torches and BMW
• 37:50
  caved and said, okay, okay, okay.
• 37:52
  We'll put manual transmissions back in them.
• 37:54
  And now they're saying, nope, nope.
• 37:55
  We're done.
• 37:56
  No more manuals in BMWs.
• 37:58
  I don't care anymore.
• 37:59
  What?
• 37:59
  Is there a place for a manual transmission in 2024?
• 38:02
  Yeah, you're Honda Civic.
• 38:03
  Man, you're making me feel like a dinosaur.
• 38:05
  Love me, my manual transmission.
• 38:06
  I mean, you say that about yourself.
• 38:08
  Yes, I would love to be able to shift gears and get a manual
• 38:11
  transmission in every car, but it's just not realistic anymore.
• 38:14
  I've made the conversion and I survived.
• 38:16
  How's your left calf these days?
• 38:19
  Slightly smaller than your right.
• 38:20
  Just as big as the right.
• 38:21
  You can come measure it yourself.
• 38:23
  I don't know.
• 38:24
  It's, it's hard because if they transition, well, it's
• 38:28
  never going to happen, but if the goals of electrification
• 38:30
  happen, the manual is dead.
• 38:32
  And with all this autopilot stuff, the more that that gets put into.
• 38:37
  Even conventional cars, what do you need a manual for if the car is driving itself?
• 38:41
  Yeah, Johnny Cab.
• 38:41
  It seems like the whole direction is to remove the driver from the
• 38:45
  driving experience from the car.
• 38:47
  We can't be trusted.
• 38:48
  The car's gotta do it all.
• 38:49
  Ugh.
• 38:50
  Ugh.
• 38:51
  It just takes the fun out of driving.
• 38:52
  Not necessarily.
• 38:53
  You have to find fun in other ways.
• 38:55
  Like the sound.
• 38:56
  The wind in your hair.
• 38:58
  Oh, yeah.
• 38:58
  The sound.
• 38:58
  Sound that comes through the speakers because the car doesn't make any noise.
• 39:02
  I'm not talking about, I'm not talking about the electric cars I'm talking about
• 39:04
  with the manual versus an automatic car.
• 39:06
  And the automatics aren't the same as they used to be.
• 39:08
  I'm going to bet you in five years, they're going to make it so that we
• 39:12
  don't have opening windows in cars anymore, that the air is pumped
• 39:15
  in and filtered artificially.
• 39:17
  It creates too much aerodynamic drag to open the windows.
• 39:20
  And why would we want to add the extra weight and this and
• 39:23
  that, and blah, blah, blah.
• 39:24
  And the mathematical computations that say we should all be driving eggs.
• 39:27
  On the road.
• 39:28
  Well, if we're not driving, period, why do we even need windows?
• 39:31
  Just sheet metal.
• 39:32
  Sheet metal's a little lighter and thinner than windows.
• 39:35
  Little eggs.
• 39:36
  Well, it could just be cameras.
• 39:37
  Like, Polestar getting rid of the rear glass and it's just a camera.
• 39:40
  You just have cameras everywhere.
• 39:42
  Yeah, everybody's gonna be driving around in panel vans.
• 39:44
  Panel vans!
• 39:45
  We're all driving HHRs!
• 39:47
  Just take me out of this life.
• 39:48
  Future!
• 39:49
  Is coming to America.
• 39:50
  Now go get a horse.
• 39:51
  It's all going to end up like an episode of Upload or Black Mirror.
• 39:55
  Black Mirror.
• 39:56
  It's going to be Black Mirror.
• 39:57
  Well, you know, it's not the only kind of scratch your head moment going on.
• 40:00
  As we transition to talk about Stellantis, you know, they've been going through
• 40:04
  their reorg and obviously the big merger was bringing in Peugeot and
• 40:08
  Citroen and all that and trying to figure out what to do with the French.
• 40:11
  And there was an opportunity last year or the year before that they were
• 40:14
  talking about bringing Peugeot back.
• 40:16
  But instead we saw the demise of Alfa Romeo.
• 40:18
  You know, we talked last month that they only sold 600 Fiat's in North
• 40:22
  America last year, which is insane.
• 40:24
  The other brand in the fleet that's really sort of on the
• 40:28
  fringes right now is Chrysler.
• 40:29
  So Dodge is okay.
• 40:31
  As long as they bring back the Challenger and the Durango and Charger and all that.
• 40:36
  So Jeep is the flagship and then you've got Ram as well, but
• 40:40
  Chrysler sort of been in the wings.
• 40:42
  The only Chrysler left was the Pacifica.
• 40:44
  What they did is they gave the Pacifica a facelift when they got rid of the caravan.
• 40:49
  And then they took the old Pacifica body and they called it the
• 40:51
  Voyager for like a year or two.
• 40:53
  And that I think is gone as well.
• 40:55
  So they're sort of left with, okay, they make a minivan.
• 40:57
  All right.
• 40:58
  It's not as popular as like a Sienna or an Odyssey.
• 41:01
  So it's not going to be the first minivan that people go to.
• 41:03
  Then here comes Chrysler going quietly, updating their logo, their
• 41:07
  emblem, the symbol on the car.
• 41:08
  Very EV looking, very kind of like LED.
• 41:12
  Looks like something from Batman Beyond or from Tron.
• 41:15
  And I'm like, okay, well, what's that all about?
• 41:17
  A little bit of Hubbaloo about that only within the, you know,
• 41:20
  the Dodge Chrysler camp of people that actually care about that.
• 41:22
  And then a couple of weeks later, they came out.
• 41:25
  And they revealed this thing called the Halcyon.
• 41:27
  Have you guys seen this?
• 41:28
  I mean, it's a concept.
• 41:29
  Let's be clear.
• 41:30
  It's not necessarily ever going to see the light of day.
• 41:34
  It's not.
• 41:35
  But it also called into question sort of two things.
• 41:38
  Why are we bringing back the Chrysler 200?
• 41:40
  Which already failed.
• 41:41
  Because that's what it looks like.
• 41:43
  It's just sort of like a Tron interpretation of that.
• 41:46
  And then it made me scratch my head going, weren't they going
• 41:49
  to come out with the Airflow?
• 41:51
  Do you guys remember that?
• 41:52
  It was like a low slung CUV, sort of built on the Cherokee, not the Grand.
• 41:57
  It was kind of cool looking, aerodynamic, EV, all this kind of stuff.
• 42:01
  Whatever happened to that?
• 42:02
  Why are we focused on this Halcyon when they were talking about coming
• 42:05
  to the market with the Airflow?
• 42:06
  And they built a couple of Airflows.
• 42:08
  I would just like to.
• 42:09
  Respond to your previous statement that it looks anything at all
• 42:13
  resembling a Chrysler 200 because if you didn't know this was a Chrysler,
• 42:17
  you wouldn't go, Oh, it's a Chrysler.
• 42:18
  You don't see it in profile.
• 42:20
  It, the shape is like the same as a 200.
• 42:22
  Now in the back and three quarter, I'm like, Hmm, that's a take in.
• 42:26
  I see where your inspiration came from.
• 42:28
  Or an Audi.
• 42:29
  Biggie Tron, BT, or whatever that is.
• 42:31
  Yeah, with that single light.
• 42:32
  And then the front even, I'm like, Hmm, are you lucid y a little bit?
• 42:36
  Not quite, but maybe.
• 42:37
  If you compare this to Angel Guerrera's concept of the new DeLorean, I think
• 42:41
  the front end was also copied from that.
• 42:43
  It has a lot of that design language in it.
• 42:46
  Low slung, angular, but also curved front end.
• 42:50
  When I looked at it, it was like, Man, this car has a lot of different cars.
• 42:53
  And it's DNA.
• 42:54
  And Chrysler 200's not one of them, other than the name.
• 42:58
  I bet it's on a 200 chassis.
• 42:59
  Those wheels even look like they're off something else.
• 43:02
  It doesn't say Chrysler to me.
• 43:04
  Maybe that's the point.
• 43:05
  Yeah, maybe.
• 43:05
  They're rebranding and reinventing themselves.
• 43:08
  You don't want to look like what you've looked like in the past, especially
• 43:11
  because their products were seen as shit.
• 43:13
  The 300 was cool.
• 43:15
  Those were fun to drive.
• 43:16
  The 300 was a Dodge, the Alpine or Alpine or whatever.
• 43:20
  That was a rebranded Durango.
• 43:22
  That's true.
• 43:23
  Chrysler was like Oldsmobile.
• 43:24
  It was just rebranded products of somebody else.
• 43:27
  The Pacifica excluded, which was just a caravan with a different body on it.
• 43:30
  I like it, but I don't.
• 43:32
  It's interesting, but it just doesn't say Chrysler to me.
• 43:35
  But it's not even about what it looks like.
• 43:36
  The bigger piece of this that they're pushing is all the tech that's inside.
• 43:40
  If you read like all the things this car is capable of doing and it's lithium
• 43:44
  sulfur battery can charge 40 miles back every minute of charging all this stuff.
• 43:48
  I mean, that's ridiculously fast or much faster than what's out there now.
• 43:52
  How much of that is theoretical though?
• 43:54
  Yeah, I'm sure all of it, but.
• 43:55
  You know, still, in theory, wow, that's incredible.
• 43:58
  But then, like, all this biometric recognition as you approach
• 44:01
  the vehicle, like, repositions.
• 44:03
  That's kind of creepy.
• 44:04
  Uh, and then it's got chill mode, and I guess reclines your seat a little
• 44:09
  bit while the autonomous level For auto driver takes over and you get like a
• 44:15
  moon view out of the sunroof and some sort of augmented reality happens.
• 44:21
  Oh, we'll talk about that too.
• 44:23
  Watch TV, sit back, relax while your Chrysler drives you into a ditch.
• 44:27
  My mind went somewhere else when Tanya was talking about the car
• 44:32
  doing things for you when you lean back and It sounded like a spa day.
• 44:37
  It sounds like something.
• 44:39
  It sounds like going to a strip club and the car is going to take care of you.
• 44:44
  Tells you to relax.
• 44:45
  Lets you rest and relax.
• 44:47
  Oh my god.
• 44:47
  The dimmable glass roof and canopy.
• 44:51
  That's horrible, but yes.
• 44:54
  I think it's weird that the rear door is so tiny and the front door is so big.
• 44:58
  Just like the 200.
• 44:59
  That's what I'm saying.
• 45:00
  The 200 wasn't this bad though.
• 45:02
  Yeah, but the doors open.
• 45:03
  What's that called when they open?
• 45:05
  Suicide doors.
• 45:05
  Suicide?
• 45:06
  Yeah.
• 45:07
  Like a 63 Lincoln.
• 45:08
  I mentioned earlier.
• 45:09
  Quick shout out to William, big money Ross and to John Summers, the motor historian
• 45:15
  during February, we put out an episode almost every day of the week, and we
• 45:18
  focused on the Mille Miglia and the reason I bring it up as part of slant is because
• 45:22
  Ferrari is part of this group as well.
• 45:24
  So it was devoted to the history of Ferrari and the Mille Miglia, which
• 45:28
  is a thousand mile race around Italy.
• 45:31
  There's lots of great stuff to learn there.
• 45:33
  We put some episodes in between.
• 45:35
  And then after that, William also covered things like the Cavalino classic, but
• 45:38
  one of the other episodes that he put out, and I got a chance to finally
• 45:43
  watch this was the Ferrari movie.
• 45:46
  I don't want to spoil what William had to say about it.
• 45:48
  Cause he talks about it from a historical perspective, but I wanted
• 45:51
  to see, did you guys finally get a chance to watch the Ferrari movie?
• 45:54
  Nope.
• 45:54
  Get a chance to watch it and then answer this question.
• 45:57
  Who is this movie really about?
• 45:59
  That's what I was left with at the end.
• 46:01
  Lamborghini.
• 46:01
  Lamborghini.
• 46:02
  Meanwhile, we'll continue our domestic news brought to you by AmericanMuscle.
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• 46:09
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• 46:11
  Do you remember everyone's favorite muscle car that went to Le Mans?
• 46:14
  Oh ho ho!
• 46:16
  So the Garage 56 car has made its debut at the 2024 Lightning Lap.
• 46:21
  Is that a VIR?
• 46:22
  Yes.
• 46:23
  And what did it do?
• 46:24
  God, I need to go there for this.
• 46:26
  It did a lap time of 2 minutes 26.
• 46:28
  7?
• 46:30
  I don't know if that's good or bad.
• 46:31
  Wait, what?
• 46:32
  That's on grand course.
• 46:33
  I was gonna say, because if that's full course, I can go
• 46:35
  faster in my car than that.
• 46:37
  What are you talking about?
• 46:38
  No, that's grand course.
• 46:39
  Yeah, that's quick.
• 46:40
  So they went up the climbing S's at 158 and a half miles an hour.
• 46:45
  Wow.
• 46:46
  Wow.
• 46:47
  They're saying that's 20 miles an hour faster than any of the
• 46:49
  other street cars that have left.
• 46:51
  Well, it's not a street car, it's a race car.
• 46:53
  How fair is that?
• 46:54
  Of course, it's not fair.
• 46:55
  It's a two frame, two chassis race car.
• 46:57
  Well, that's what they're comparing it to.
• 46:59
  Compared to a stock ZL1 Camaro, yes, it's going to be ballistically fast.
• 47:03
  Still, I would love to know where that ranks.
• 47:05
  If they're just doing the top gear leaderboard, or if
• 47:08
  they separate it by race car.
• 47:10
  Versus, you know, streetcar.
• 47:11
  Fell short, apparently, of whatever Subaru.
• 47:14
  The Subaru Air Slayer.
• 47:16
  So it fell shy of that record, I guess.
• 47:19
  Which is just a souped up STI, it looks like.
• 47:22
  Was it factory built or was it privateer?
• 47:24
  Because I don't think it's fair if it's a privateer.
• 47:26
  Because they could make it make 2, 000 horsepower.
• 47:28
  It's 860.
• 47:29
  The two horsepower WRX built for Jim Connor by Subaru motor sports
• 47:34
  partner, Vermont sports car.
• 47:36
  So it's built by Vermont sports car, but it was commissioned
• 47:38
  by Subaru motor sports.
• 47:39
  So it's basically a Hoonigan special.
• 47:42
  Yes.
• 47:42
  It's a super corn to your point.
• 47:44
  If you took the Hoonicorn out there, that Mustang that makes
• 47:46
  a gajillion horsepower, right?
• 47:48
  Ken blocks car do the same thing.
• 47:49
  So I feel like these cars are in a special category compared to, let's say the Tesla.
• 47:53
  Or, you know, the Taycan or some of the other lightning laps that they've done
• 47:57
  in the past, you know, whether it's car and driver or some of the other places
• 48:00
  that do these lightning laps at VIR.
• 48:02
  But you can watch the lap from in car of Garage 56.
• 48:05
  226 on Grand Course, you know, every possible turn.
• 48:09
  And apparently he locked it up in turn one.
• 48:11
  So there you have it.
• 48:12
  He could have been faster.
• 48:13
  That's respectable.
• 48:14
  That is absolutely respectable.
• 48:15
  There is video at the front of this article too.
• 48:19
  I need to go back and watch.
• 48:20
  You just listen to it because the sound is glorious.
• 48:22
  Oh my, yes.
• 48:23
  It's the greatest sounding car ever.
• 48:25
  I will say, I love this little quote or the last line of the article.
• 48:30
  It's an all NASCAR endurance race.
• 48:33
  Might be more fun than the 24 hour race in France, I would watch a 24 hour NASCAR
• 48:41
  race at a real track, not like a oval, but like a real track, 24 hours of NASCARs.
• 48:46
  Oh my God.
• 48:47
  The sound that would make, I think if they did 24 hours on an oval,
• 48:51
  like how boring would that be?
• 48:53
  But it would end up like trade and paint.
• 48:54
  You know, we were talking about the guy with the baseball bat on his
• 48:56
  forehead going around in circles.
• 48:58
  It'd be like a Tilt A Whirl.
• 49:01
  Well, so if they did a 24 hours NASCAR race, obviously there's not
• 49:05
  enough NASCAR drivers to fill seats.
• 49:07
  Right?
• 49:08
  Who do you have stepping in to make the teams up?
• 49:10
  You get gentlemen drivers.
• 49:11
  No, it becomes the IROC series again, which we all want to come back.
• 49:16
  Right?
• 49:16
  So now you bring out formula one drivers, you bring out rally drivers,
• 49:20
  anybody that you can get in there.
• 49:21
  You got to make teams and people that want to pay to drive.
• 49:24
  Well, yeah, that too.
• 49:25
  All right, well, we need to move on to Japanese and Asian domestic news.
• 49:30
  And you know how we make fun of these stupid drag races between Teslas pulling
• 49:34
  Porsches and Porsches and drag races with Tesla Model 3s and hot laps of the
• 49:39
  Nürburgring and this and that and the other thing and why is it important?
• 49:42
  Who cares?
• 49:43
  And this next one, I had to stop and I had to check it out.
• 49:47
  When they said an Ioniq 5N edition lapped the Nürburgring quicker than a Porsche.
• 49:54
  Not just any Porsche, a two generation old GT3 RS.
• 49:59
  Oh, you picked up on that too, did you?
• 50:01
  Yeah, for people that know the Porsche.
• 50:03
  Model numbers and stuff.
• 50:04
  Yeah.
• 50:04
  It's two generations old.
• 50:06
  So it's like a nine, nine, one dot one or something like that.
• 50:08
  Yeah.
• 50:09
  It's a nine, nine, seven.
• 50:10
  Oh, wow.
• 50:10
  It's even older.
• 50:11
  Holy smokes.
• 50:12
  Oh, cause they're on the nine, nine, two now, aren't they?
• 50:14
  Yeah.
• 50:14
  Yeah.
• 50:14
  Nine, nine, two dot two or something.
• 50:16
  Yeah.
• 50:16
  Because now they're doing like software revision numbers.
• 50:18
  It's insane.
• 50:20
  I got to tip my hat for a front wheel drive EV that weighs.
• 50:25
  like a small truck.
• 50:26
  It's respectable.
• 50:27
  I like that car.
• 50:28
  I still think it's cool.
• 50:29
  It does also say that it beat the Lamborghini Gallardo Ferrari 599 GTB along
• 50:35
  with the 997 996 in was seconds off of a Cayman GT4 BMW M2 and the Type R Civic.
• 50:44
  That's not bad.
• 50:45
  And it almost matched the Taycan Turbo, so I'm like shocked.
• 50:49
  But then again, it's not an IONIQ 5.
• 50:51
  It's this.
• 50:52
  Monster version, the N edition.
• 50:54
  Yeah.
• 50:55
  A 640 horsepower version.
• 50:57
  It can only do two laps.
• 51:00
  One of my biggest gripes about Hyundai, then this is from driving a couple
• 51:04
  of them, they look great on paper.
• 51:07
  They put up good stats.
• 51:09
  Somebody like this can get a decent laugh.
• 51:11
  So I'm out of one, but every time I've ever driven one myself,
• 51:14
  I've never been impressed.
• 51:15
  They feel numb.
• 51:16
  They're not fun cars to drive, even like a Genesis coupe or something like that.
• 51:21
  They just, I don't feel it connected to the car.
• 51:23
  I haven't driven a Veloster.
• 51:25
  I had the opposite experience with a Veloster N, especially on track.
• 51:29
  I walked away from that going.
• 51:30
  This is the best GTI built in Korea because I feel that
• 51:33
  the new GTI is super numb.
• 51:35
  It's got too many electronics, too many nannies, everything's fly by wire.
• 51:39
  I'm surprised the brakes aren't fly by wire at this point.
• 51:42
  And so driving the Hyundai, it was like, wow, this reminds me of the old days.
• 51:47
  This is farfignougan, right?
• 51:48
  But you know, they discontinued that car.
• 51:50
  So, you know, there's a lot to say there as well.
• 51:52
  But I, I like the fact that Hyundai sort of has their version of the.
• 51:56
  Our line, right?
• 51:57
  Which is this N series.
• 51:58
  So there's an N version of pretty much everything in their
• 52:01
  lineup and they didn't stop.
• 52:03
  They said, we're going to do an ionic N.
• 52:04
  And I think that's super cool.
• 52:06
  Maybe not all Hyundai's are equally built.
• 52:08
  And to your point, the regular ones are kind of boring, but I think they
• 52:12
  all suffer the same problem, which is you take it to your local target and
• 52:15
  you can hack into the USB and drive the car away, you know, that whole, yeah.
• 52:19
  Exploit thing.
• 52:21
  So there's weird stuff like that.
• 52:22
  That makes you scratch your head going like, what are you guys doing?
• 52:25
  Would I turn one away?
• 52:26
  Nah, looking back, if I had to do it over again, kind of knowing what
• 52:30
  I know now, I would have seriously considered a Veloster and some of the
• 52:33
  other, even the Elantra N and some of those are really interesting cars.
• 52:37
  If I had been in the market at the time that they were new.
• 52:40
  Well, in another twist of fate, you know, we talked about BMW doing the
• 52:43
  hokey pokey and changing their minds about manual transmissions, Toyota.
• 52:47
  Seems to be backing down off of their no EV policy.
• 52:51
  And we know they did put out that electric RAV4 thing.
• 52:54
  I don't even know if they're really selling that, but they're taking
• 52:58
  a different direction with this.
• 53:00
  And they're talking about investing in the Kentucky factory to build a
• 53:04
  three row SUV that'll be all electric.
• 53:07
  I mean, where did this come from?
• 53:09
  Out of the blue.
• 53:10
  Seemingly, they're not just throwing it at like, Oh, we're going to build one.
• 53:13
  They're throwing 17 billion with a B dollars at this.
• 53:18
  That's a big investment to make.
• 53:20
  It did have an all electric land cruiser concept, but those are just concepts
• 53:24
  like they can play with the idea, right?
• 53:26
  Well, they're taking that concept and they're going forward.
• 53:29
  I guess they're also talking about bringing over the century, which
• 53:32
  is going to replace some of the higher end Lexus or the Lexi.
• 53:35
  What is the plural of Lexus?
• 53:37
  The Lexi, I don't know.
• 53:38
  So they're talking about bringing the centuries over, which they're not the
• 53:41
  centuries of old, you know, the big Luxo boat sedans, like we've talked
• 53:45
  about, which were the inspiration for a lot of the Lexuses, but this is like
• 53:49
  the replacement for the Lexus LX 600.
• 53:52
  And some of those kinds of things, these things are just huge SUVs.
• 53:55
  This is really interesting, especially because we've heard from Toyota so many
• 53:59
  times that they're sticking to hybrid.
• 54:01
  They're sticking to hybrid.
• 54:01
  They're sticking to hybrid.
• 54:02
  And it's like, wait, now you're investing all this money to start building EVs.
• 54:07
  Well, they have two.
• 54:08
  It's not that they don't have any, because they have that weird alphabety.
• 54:14
  BZR4, BZ4X.
• 54:15
  This is a RAV4, basically.
• 54:16
  And then there's a Lexus, I think, that's all electric.
• 54:20
  The new one that replaced the LX600, yeah, that they showed after the Super Bowl.
• 54:25
  TX.
• 54:26
  Because I kept thinking T Rex every time I heard it.
• 54:28
  I don't know what it means in their future.
• 54:30
  Just because they're putting a handful of all electrics in their portfolio
• 54:33
  doesn't mean they've necessarily abandoned their stance that hybrid
• 54:38
  is a better option, or even hydrogen.
• 54:40
  But I think the problem, the hydrogen, they're dealing with
• 54:42
  the infrastructure problem.
• 54:43
  Well, it doesn't help that Shell is closing all of its hydrogen fueling pumps.
• 54:50
  Sadly, I didn't even know that was a thing.
• 54:52
  I have never seen a Shell station in the United States that has hydrogen.
• 54:55
  Have you?
• 54:56
  Of course they're not in the United States.
• 54:57
  Okay.
• 54:58
  So they're closing them down in the rest of the world.
• 54:59
  All right.
• 55:00
  I think so.
• 55:00
  I don't think they're in the United States.
• 55:02
  I could be wrong, but actually it says right here, Shell permanently
• 55:05
  closes all of its hydrogen refueling stations for cars in California.
• 55:08
  There you go.
• 55:09
  There you go.
• 55:10
  California.
• 55:10
  Well, we've sort of fallen backwards into EVs and new concepts.
• 55:14
  So Mountain Man Dan sent us one.
• 55:17
  Travis Pastrana reviews an electric motocross bike.
• 55:20
  I'm not really sure what to think other than that.
• 55:22
  It's cool.
• 55:23
  It's neat to see Travis out there doing what he does on bikes with an EV.
• 55:27
  The question is, and Dan has brought this up before that they are.
• 55:32
  Using in them in competition, one of the championship races last year, something
• 55:36
  like that, the EV was like clearly doing well until something catastrophically
• 55:40
  broke and then it was over, but that's like any motor sport, right?
• 55:44
  Stuff happens, things break, and you learn what to fix because you're
• 55:47
  stressing these pieces of machinery to their limit on the racetrack, whether
• 55:51
  it's on road, off road or otherwise.
• 55:53
  So I think it's cool.
• 55:54
  We're going to link to the video in the show notes and you can check it
• 55:57
  out, leave your comments, let us know what you think about the new electric
• 56:00
  motocross bike that Travis was.
• 56:01
  Checking out, but I think we have some other random EVs and
• 56:04
  concept cars, right, Tanya?
• 56:06
  The Fisker Ocean, we haven't talked about in a while, and I actually think
• 56:10
  it was sometime early last year, was passing at car transporters filled with
• 56:14
  oceans, which was interesting to see.
• 56:17
  However, I wonder how all of those are doing because according to
• 56:21
  reports, they're not doing so well.
• 56:23
  Uh oh.
• 56:24
  Tesla's not the only one with problems sometimes.
• 56:26
  Apparently they're plagued with a lot of gremlins.
• 56:29
  Even the cars that people high up in Biscar have received have failed.
• 56:34
  So they've had multiple like high level people that took ownership of
• 56:37
  the cars and then they're driving down the road, complete power failure,
• 56:40
  car dies, multiple reports of that.
• 56:42
  Even if normal people have taken ownership, other issues around
• 56:45
  brake loss and in all sorts of other electrical gremlins of.
• 56:49
  But the fob's not working, other sensors, this, that, and the other.
• 56:52
  So that's not really a good sign if they're plagued with a lot of
• 56:55
  software or electrical issues.
• 56:57
  I've got a simple solution for the brake problem.
• 56:59
  You want to hear what it is?
• 57:00
  So what we're going to do is.
• 57:01
  We're going to have this reservoir filled with hydraulic fluid and then
• 57:04
  we're going to push a pedal and it's going to make these pistons move
• 57:07
  these plates that are going to create friction and slow the car down.
• 57:11
  I'm on to something here, guys.
• 57:12
  I can solve the key fob problem too.
• 57:14
  Because what you do is you get this thing called a lock cylinder and then you make a
• 57:18
  key that has a metal piece protruding from it and then you stick that in and then it
• 57:22
  moves these tumblers and it moves a lot.
• 57:27
  Wow.
• 57:27
  Oh, you can fix the power failure problem by adding this motor.
• 57:31
  It's called a internal combustion and there's an explosion that
• 57:35
  happens inside each cylinder.
• 57:36
  You're going down the road and this just keeps the motor going and going
• 57:39
  and going and it transmits the power through what's called a transmission
• 57:42
  and it sends that power to the wheels.
• 57:45
  We are onto something.
• 57:46
  We are innovators, visionaries.
• 57:48
  No one has thought of this before.
• 57:51
  This is incredible.
• 57:52
  We are in uncharted territory.
• 57:54
  Like, I got to start contacting patent lawyers today because we
• 57:58
  are going to solve the problem.
• 57:59
  We're going to cut all this out so people don't steal our great ideas, right?
• 58:02
  Uh, all jokes aside, hope they get their stuff figured out.
• 58:06
  I hope they don't.
• 58:06
  I could care less, honestly, but you know, I'll send them good vibes.
• 58:11
  Well, like we talked before, people are going to be driving eggs.
• 58:14
  That levitate down the road soon because Polestar has removed the
• 58:18
  rear window in their vehicles.
• 58:19
  I'm like, really guys, why, why one more thing to break
• 58:22
  because Polestar is a hot mess.
• 58:24
  I'm going to lay it out for you right now.
• 58:26
  Hot takes.
• 58:26
  Yeah.
• 58:26
  They just got like kicked to the side.
• 58:28
  A hundred percent Volvo ditched them.
• 58:30
  And the Polestar CEO comes out and says, you know, there's issues
• 58:34
  in the EV market because the used car market is complete garbage.
• 58:38
  When it comes to EVs, they're worth.
• 58:40
  It's sort of like buying somebody else's used dust buster.
• 58:43
  Do you really want to do that?
• 58:45
  I'm not going to buy used Ryobi tools.
• 58:47
  Like that doesn't make sense.
• 58:48
  So the EV market on the new side is flooded with just junk.
• 58:52
  And then I read this report recently that there's a place, I think it's down
• 58:55
  in Texas where they have these Teslas.
• 58:57
  For just like acres and acres, they're insurance cars and they're
• 59:02
  destroyed from different angles and they're basically totaled, but they
• 59:05
  don't know what to do with them.
• 59:06
  And it's not like we're going to make three good cars out of
• 59:09
  two, take parts from this one.
• 59:11
  And it's just, I watched this video and this guy's just walking down
• 59:14
  and it's model three, model Y model one after the other, after the
• 59:18
  other, after, and you're like, whoa.
• 59:20
  And then we'll talk about this in lost and found.
• 59:22
  Brad, if you scroll through cars.
• 59:24
  com or autotrader, you're not going to find a lot of used EVs on there.
• 59:27
  People sort of keep them until they're consumed or wrecked and
• 59:30
  then it's like single use plastic.
• 59:32
  Well, one and done and kind of move on and buy something else.
• 59:34
  We're so conscious about the environment.
• 59:37
  Shush, shush you.
• 59:38
  Remember, we're going to get the patents on this new way of doing it.
• 59:42
  I'm going to call it clean diesel.
• 59:46
  Diesel is such a bad word.
• 59:48
  You got to call it something.
• 59:48
  Is there a bleep button for diesel?
• 59:50
  Like every time it's like Brad, it's time.
• 59:54
  We move on to your favorite part of the drive through lost and found
• 59:57
  where you get to scour the internet, looking for the newest old piece of
• 1:00:01
  crap available in dealership lots.
• 1:00:02
  Oh my God.
• 1:00:03
  The Ford GTs are multiplying.
• 1:00:05
  There are now two Ford GTs out here.
• 1:00:09
  Both of them, 450, 000.
• 1:00:11
  Oh, one yellow with black stripe.
• 1:00:14
  One looks just like Jeremy Clarkson's old car.
• 1:00:16
  It probably is Jeremy Clarkson's old car.
• 1:00:18
  Yeah.
• 1:00:18
  I thought Doug DeMuro bought that one.
• 1:00:19
  And then there's a 2008 Shelby GT 500 convertible for 71, 000.
• 1:00:25
  A 2012 Fiat 500 lounge.
• 1:00:28
  If we can't sell new Fiat's, we're definitely not going to sell this.
• 1:00:31
  Who puts together an appearance or comfort package called lounge?
• 1:00:36
  The Italians do apparently this car is an athleisure wear accessory.
• 1:00:40
  That's it.
• 1:00:41
  There's not much going on out here.
• 1:00:42
  There's a bunch of Volkswagens.
• 1:00:43
  You know what there is going on.
• 1:00:44
  We have another nominee.
• 1:00:46
  For the uncool wall.
• 1:00:47
  What?
• 1:00:48
  Have you guys heard of the Vetter slash?
• 1:00:51
  Hot garbage.
• 1:00:52
  Take a look at this thing.
• 1:00:53
  This looks like something from another decade that belongs in like a TV show.
• 1:00:57
  They put a rear window on the front.
• 1:00:59
  Because Polestar doesn't need them anymore.
• 1:01:01
  So there's a clearance sale on those.
• 1:01:03
  They just put them on.
• 1:01:03
  Like what bastardization is this?
• 1:01:06
  What got butchered and put back together?
• 1:01:08
  Is that a Pontiac badge on the front?
• 1:01:10
  Looks like it.
• 1:01:11
  This started its life.
• 1:01:12
  Believe it or not, Corvette C six, Corvette poor thing should
• 1:01:16
  have been put out of its Missouri.
• 1:01:17
  This looks like something out of Batman, the animated series.
• 1:01:20
  But when I first saw it, because of this burgundy color, it brought me back.
• 1:01:24
  Do you remember the Bradley, which was like a C3 Corvette, that the guy tried
• 1:01:29
  to put it Ford, crown Victoria on top of, and it was like this color and it was kind
• 1:01:33
  of put together in the same weird way.
• 1:01:35
  So I immediately, I went back to that.
• 1:01:36
  I was like, this is the modern Bradley, look at this thing.
• 1:01:39
  It's.
• 1:01:40
  Terrible.
• 1:01:41
  From the front, suddenly I'm like, oh, is it trying to be a Bugatti, like a Veyron?
• 1:01:45
  This is like something I expect to see on Car Masters now.
• 1:01:48
  Yes, like that car that they built with the weird vents and shit.
• 1:01:53
  So many angles.
• 1:01:54
  Oh my god, the back.
• 1:01:57
  What is going on with this interior?
• 1:01:59
  They took a Nexus 7 tablet and just put it everywhere, glued it to the dash.
• 1:02:04
  And then they covered it in this material that was taken out
• 1:02:07
  of a Dodge Viper from the 90s.
• 1:02:09
  Why?
• 1:02:10
  Why would you do this to a Corvette?
• 1:02:12
  So what are reverse?
• 1:02:15
  What are those called?
• 1:02:17
  Stupid.
• 1:02:17
  So those are called, I've never seen reverse scissor doors.
• 1:02:22
  How the hell do you get in and out of this thing?
• 1:02:24
  So imagine it, if you're listening at home or go look at the show notes, because this
• 1:02:28
  car is an incredible feat of engineering.
• 1:02:30
  The doors pivot at your hip and they open upwards like a Lamborghini or a McLaren,
• 1:02:36
  but they open backwards out and back.
• 1:02:38
  It's like, well, this is going up on our uncool wall and you
• 1:02:43
  can vote for it later today.
• 1:02:45
  So cast your votes.
• 1:02:45
  There are, I think, 65 other cars on the uncool wall now.
• 1:02:49
  And one of the things we added when we remodeled the uncool wall, it's still.
• 1:02:53
  Terrible to look at on purpose by design, but we actually added badges to the car.
• 1:02:57
  So you can go back and see our staff picks our drive thru nominees
• 1:03:01
  and some of the ones coming out of our discord and things like that.
• 1:03:04
  And honorable mentions are on there as well.
• 1:03:06
  So a lot of fun.
• 1:03:08
  You can go back and vote as many times as you like on our uncool wall.
• 1:03:12
  And you can find that on gtmotorsports.
• 1:03:14
  org.
• 1:03:15
  What's next it's that time again.
• 1:03:17
  It's time to talk about Teslagate.
• 1:03:20
  We would be remiss.
• 1:03:22
  Yes, so, Tesla.
• 1:03:27
  This first article about a driver in a Cybertruck driving
• 1:03:31
  with VR or AR goggles on.
• 1:03:34
  First of all, I think it was a stunt, so there's that.
• 1:03:37
  The more concerning thing is don't put this out there in the
• 1:03:41
  world for people to try to go do.
• 1:03:43
  That's the more concerning thing at the moment because the
• 1:03:46
  Cybertruck doesn't have autopilot.
• 1:03:48
  So it's a stunt because there's no way that it's self driving and
• 1:03:51
  he's just not paying attention.
• 1:03:52
  So boom on that.
• 1:03:53
  But second of all, don't put this out in the world.
• 1:03:56
  So people are like, Oh, I can go do this too.
• 1:03:59
  Or some asshat's going to go do it in their Tesla, which is another
• 1:04:02
  article they'll accidentally.
• 1:04:04
  Bow over a woman and her dog killing them and then go, I didn't
• 1:04:08
  realize I, uh, ran anybody over.
• 1:04:10
  While they were checking emails on their phone in autopilot, allegedly.
• 1:04:13
  I mean, what a great excuse to like, bow somebody down and be like,
• 1:04:16
  Oh shit, oh crap, what do I do?
• 1:04:18
  Oh, you know what?
• 1:04:18
  I was on autopilot.
• 1:04:19
  Like, it's not still your fault, asshole, and you didn't notice?
• 1:04:23
  Like supposedly there's some like street cam that's like the woman was on your
• 1:04:26
  hood for a hot second, you know, dying.
• 1:04:29
  Like, what the f To Tanya's point, there are no cars in existence
• 1:04:33
  today that have autopilot.
• 1:04:35
  Go read the fine print.
• 1:04:36
  They all say the same shit.
• 1:04:38
  The car does not drive itself.
• 1:04:39
  Don't be fucking delusional.
• 1:04:41
  Mm hmm.
• 1:04:42
  I will say you missed the point entirely, Tanya.
• 1:04:44
  Nope.
• 1:04:45
  She's, she got it.
• 1:04:46
  She good.
• 1:04:47
  The whole thing with the VR goggles.
• 1:04:49
  It's just like when I sit down on my simulator, I don't need to
• 1:04:53
  use my monitors, I can plug my Oculus or MetaQuest into my sim
• 1:04:57
  and play the game through that.
• 1:04:59
  So, when you plug your Oculus into the Cybertruck, you don't need a windshield.
• 1:05:03
  Remember I said, we're going to be driving eggs that levitate.
• 1:05:08
  So, how do you know where you're going?
• 1:05:09
  You put on your VR, AR goggles and it's just like being outside.
• 1:05:13
  Elon Musk was a visionary.
• 1:05:15
  He saw the writing on the wall.
• 1:05:17
  You don't need a windscreen wiper because you're not gonna use the windscreen.
• 1:05:22
  You won't know that it's raining.
• 1:05:23
  The laser goes across your meta quest.
• 1:05:26
  They use the same laser from that eye surgery.
• 1:05:29
  They're giving you LASIK.
• 1:05:30
  From the LASIK, yes, LASIK technology.
• 1:05:34
  Then your meta quest that goes across and cleans your windshield.
• 1:05:37
  The simulated rain in your simulated world.
• 1:05:40
  Just like they added simulated rain to iRacing.
• 1:05:43
  We'll see how that turns out.
• 1:05:44
  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:05:45
  See the neural link.
• 1:05:47
  Oh God.
• 1:05:48
  The neural link.
• 1:05:49
  Put in you and then that'll connect you intimately with the car.
• 1:05:54
  Didn't they put the neural chip in somebody's head?
• 1:05:57
  Like Tesla did that.
• 1:05:58
  I think so.
• 1:05:58
  Cannot wait until they have complete cranial meltdown because I feel like I
• 1:06:03
  have that when I'm reading these articles.
• 1:06:05
  I can only imagine if that thing's self combust inside your head.
• 1:06:09
  Good night.
• 1:06:10
  They did put it in someone and allegedly they can move a mouse,
• 1:06:14
  like computer mouse with their mind.
• 1:06:18
  You know, I think I've got a new invention.
• 1:06:20
  It's called a hand, and you put the hand on the mouse, and you can move it
• 1:06:25
  without even needing to use your mind.
• 1:06:27
  But you use your mind to move your hand!
• 1:06:29
  You see, it's that telekinesis powers that we have.
• 1:06:32
  I don't, I don't need wireless!
• 1:06:34
  Touch it!
• 1:06:35
  I can push the buttons!
• 1:06:36
  You're not telepathic!
• 1:06:37
  You don't have telekinetic powers!
• 1:06:39
  What, the mouse must have a chip in it or something?
• 1:06:42
  Like, and you're like microwaving like waves out of your brain to control it?
• 1:06:47
  There is no spoon.
• 1:06:49
  So all you do is tilt your head and that's the mouse.
• 1:06:52
  It's like the old trackball mice.
• 1:06:54
  No, no, go back, go back!
• 1:06:56
  Like Night at the Roxbury!
• 1:06:58
  Refresh!
• 1:07:00
  There's already technology like that where your eye movements can be tracked,
• 1:07:05
  and so that you could move things on a computer screen in that way.
• 1:07:08
  Right.
• 1:07:08
  I think they've already designed that stuff for people with disabilities.
• 1:07:11
  I don't need to embed a chip in my brain and then all of a sudden have like,
• 1:07:16
  I'm going to get charged to go to the facilities in my own home or something.
• 1:07:20
  Just imagine how many Camp Lejeune emails you can get straight to your brain.
• 1:07:24
  You're going to get paywalls.
• 1:07:26
  I need to pay for my subscription to, I don't know, use my brain.
• 1:07:31
  I get like shut down because my Neuralink subscription expired.
• 1:07:35
  Like yeah, cause you didn't pay your bill.
• 1:07:37
  Dear Lord, please start the apocalypse.
• 1:07:40
  Start over.
• 1:07:41
  I mean, we are solving the world's problems.
• 1:07:43
  And you know what, Brad, we alluded to earlier, there's
• 1:07:45
  more news with the Cybertruck.
• 1:07:46
  And this one is just ripe for the picking.
• 1:07:50
  This is delicious.
• 1:07:51
  See, it's all misunderstood.
• 1:07:53
  The problem is the type of stainless steel they have chosen is magnetic,
• 1:07:58
  has slight magnetism to it.
• 1:08:00
  Therefore the metal fallout from everywhere, be it brake dust.
• 1:08:04
  passing a railroad track, factories, they're sprinkling little metal pieces
• 1:08:10
  that are attracted to the stainless steel body panels and then they get attached
• 1:08:16
  there and that metal is what's rusting.
• 1:08:18
  Lies.
• 1:08:19
  Not the actual Cybertruck.
• 1:08:21
  Yeah, flag on the play.
• 1:08:23
  I call bullshit.
• 1:08:23
  So even normal painted cars.
• 1:08:26
  Have this problem.
• 1:08:28
  What I call bullshit.
• 1:08:29
  Cause there's nothing that's attracted to the cyber truck.
• 1:08:33
  All right.
• 1:08:33
  Just go get some barkeepers friend and just polish your thing all the time.
• 1:08:38
  Yeah, I guess you can't use like Google on or whatever that the
• 1:08:41
  bug stuff is to get rid of it.
• 1:08:43
  We just take this back to basics.
• 1:08:45
  The whole point of stainless steel is that it's not supposed to rust.
• 1:08:49
  The fact that it's rusting indicates to me that it's stainless steel.
• 1:08:54
  It's the stainless steel itself is not rusting.
• 1:08:58
  It's the metal that attaches to it.
• 1:09:00
  There are deposits of metal that are falling onto the stainless
• 1:09:04
  steel body and getting stuck there.
• 1:09:07
  And those little pieces of metal are what is rusting and creating
• 1:09:12
  the little orange flecks everywhere.
• 1:09:13
  Are we on that game show to tell a lie?
• 1:09:16
  We're going to tell you three statements.
• 1:09:17
  Two of these are true.
• 1:09:18
  Yeah.
• 1:09:18
  One is a lie.
• 1:09:19
  Two truths and a lie.
• 1:09:21
  Yeah, this is like, wait, wait, don't tell me now, right?
• 1:09:23
  I mean, this is insane.
• 1:09:24
  Did DeLorean have these problems?
• 1:09:27
  Apparently they did change their grade of stainless steel at one point to
• 1:09:32
  make it more repelling, less magnetic.
• 1:09:35
  I don't know enough about DeLorean's history because I've never heard, but
• 1:09:39
  again, the community is very small.
• 1:09:40
  So who's to say?
• 1:09:42
  So is the Cybertruck community.
• 1:09:43
  It's getting smaller every day.
• 1:09:45
  It's getting smaller and smaller.
• 1:09:47
  Based on precedent, on all the other things we've learned about Tesla, and
• 1:09:50
  all the other adventures that we've been on through TeslaGate over the years.
• 1:09:53
  I don't know what to believe.
• 1:09:55
  Exactly.
• 1:09:55
  And it will come to pass in several years that it's really actually
• 1:10:00
  brushed sheet metal posing as stainless steel, and the cars are rusting.
• 1:10:05
  Regardless, if I paid 100, 000 for it, I don't know, put an effing
• 1:10:09
  clear coat on the stainless steel.
• 1:10:10
  Ya think?
• 1:10:11
  No, you just put a wrap on it.
• 1:10:12
  Did that defeat the purpose again?
• 1:10:14
  We're happy to offer you that as an extra fee.
• 1:10:17
  One of the most genius moves ever.
• 1:10:19
  But also has a negative side effect.
• 1:10:21
  If you guys remember the original McLaren F1, the way those cars were painted,
• 1:10:26
  it was actually really, really cool.
• 1:10:27
  They would do the color and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:10:29
  And then they would literally lock it in with like a thick urethane
• 1:10:33
  that was basically impermeable.
• 1:10:35
  So the color would never fade.
• 1:10:37
  It could never get shipped, but you also couldn't repaint the car because it
• 1:10:40
  was locked into that particular color.
• 1:10:42
  It was basically sealed.
• 1:10:43
  To your point, Tanya, I don't know why they couldn't have
• 1:10:45
  done this with the Cybertruck.
• 1:10:46
  It's not like it doesn't already weigh literally 10, 000 pounds.
• 1:10:49
  There must have been something they could have sealed the panels
• 1:10:52
  with to prevent this, if it's truly the industrial fallout.
• 1:10:56
  They could have used great stuff because the doors leak like
• 1:10:59
  every other Tesla does, right?
• 1:11:00
  The point is More of these issues are coming out.
• 1:11:03
  Like we've said, it was kind of rushed to production.
• 1:11:06
  Rushed, hasn't it been in product?
• 1:11:07
  Have been trying to build for like a decade.
• 1:11:10
  It's been rushed.
• 1:11:10
  Rushed to production.
• 1:11:14
  . Wow.
• 1:11:14
  Rushed to production.
• 1:11:17
  rushing it for a decade.
• 1:11:18
  Two lies and a truth.
• 1:11:19
  Well, there you go.
• 1:11:20
  Two.
• 1:11:20
  Two truths and a lie.
• 1:11:22
  . That was clearly the truth.
• 1:11:24
  It's unbelievable.
• 1:11:26
  It is.
• 1:11:26
  It is.
• 1:11:26
  I don't know that my expectations could get any lower, but these next couple
• 1:11:31
  of articles have really put me there.
• 1:11:33
  Lowered expectations.
• 1:11:34
  Riders on the storm.
• 1:11:40
  That's what that sounded like.
• 1:11:41
  Riders on the storm.
• 1:11:42
  So the great not state of representation without taxation, the District
• 1:11:48
  of Columbia in our fair capital.
• 1:11:50
  is pushing for speed limiters on cars.
• 1:11:53
  How does that work?
• 1:11:54
  Like, like they could only impose that on DC registered cars.
• 1:11:58
  No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:11:59
  Because if California has their way, because they are the neck that turns the
• 1:12:04
  head of the snake, California is trying to adopt a European style speed limiter.
• 1:12:08
  To impose on the rest of us, but it's only really going to work on
• 1:12:11
  new cars from the sounds of it.
• 1:12:13
  And my old car is going to be worth so much money.
• 1:12:15
  I got it.
• 1:12:16
  No, right.
• 1:12:16
  For a while.
• 1:12:17
  But you remember back in the seventies when they made the speedometers
• 1:12:19
  only go up to 85 miles an hour.
• 1:12:21
  So that way you thought you were saving gas because you couldn't go past 85.
• 1:12:25
  Although some cars could do like 120.
• 1:12:27
  You just bury the needle and go for it.
• 1:12:28
  So same kind of thing, but this is going to be electronically controlled.
• 1:12:31
  And I said this before there was going to come back to bite people in the butt
• 1:12:35
  with all this auto driving, self driving nonsense that we've been talking about.
• 1:12:40
  Enjoy driving the speed limit.
• 1:12:41
  Cause they're going to.
• 1:12:42
  figure out a way to limit the cars with GPS to that speed.
• 1:12:46
  Nationwide tried that already.
• 1:12:47
  Put our transponder in there for your good driver saving so we can charge you when
• 1:12:52
  we see that you go over a certain speed.
• 1:12:54
  No, thank you.
• 1:12:55
  I'll pass.
• 1:12:56
  I don't understand why people don't get it.
• 1:12:58
  Like if we really did truly at the snap of a finger could move tomorrow
• 1:13:01
  to this futuristic sci fi world where everyone is in a self driving car, i.
• 1:13:06
  e.
• 1:13:06
  trains, essentially, right?
• 1:13:07
  Like, like, essentially, like, the world is just a bunch of series of
• 1:13:11
  monorails because the cars are all going to be computer controlled and
• 1:13:14
  they're going to follow the leader.
• 1:13:16
  Remember they're levitating eggs, levitating eggs.
• 1:13:17
  Whatever, the levitating eggs are going to follow one speed and someone's
• 1:13:21
  going to decide what that speed is.
• 1:13:23
  And maybe it's 55 miles an hour, certain roads and 30 others, or who knows?
• 1:13:27
  Maybe it's.
• 1:13:28
  155 miles an hour, I doubt it.
• 1:13:30
  But there you have it, you know, it's all going to be controlled.
• 1:13:33
  Because in order to have a system like that actually work, you can't
• 1:13:36
  have multiple speeds going on.
• 1:13:37
  I mean, you can, but it's more complex programming, and who's
• 1:13:40
  going to bother doing that?
• 1:13:41
  Exactly.
• 1:13:41
  And the GPS systems already know, because of the mapping software, what the
• 1:13:45
  speeds are of the roads as they exist.
• 1:13:47
  today.
• 1:13:47
  But it does bring up an interesting conversation because the more local
• 1:13:51
  roads, the B roads, the city roads, those speeds are dictated based on the number
• 1:13:55
  of pedestrians and sidewalks and all this kind of stuff to determine what the speed
• 1:13:59
  of those boulevards and avenues should be.
• 1:14:01
  But on the highways, the National Safety Commission, National Highway
• 1:14:04
  Commission designates the national speed limit based on fuel economy.
• 1:14:08
  And let's just say in an ideal.
• 1:14:11
  Sci fi world where it's like Demolition Man and we all have our
• 1:14:14
  levitating eggs with foam and all that kind of stuff when they wreck.
• 1:14:17
  55 mile an hour speed limit, which has been raised to 65 in a lot of places.
• 1:14:21
  The 55 mile an hour speed limit, let's just say, which is the national
• 1:14:23
  average, doesn't need to exist anymore because it's based on fuel economy.
• 1:14:27
  So what should the new speed limit be on the highways?
• 1:14:31
  Well, it'll be based on electrical economy.
• 1:14:33
  Because you're not gonna go 80 and then drain your battery faster.
• 1:14:36
  So there's going to be an optimal point where you're in a range,
• 1:14:40
  even of speed and power drawing off the batteries that makes sense.
• 1:14:44
  Isn't part of the whole thing with EVs?
• 1:14:46
  Especially with electric motors is once you get to a certain point, you need a
• 1:14:50
  very minimal charge in electromagnet to keep it spinning at that constant speed.
• 1:14:54
  Theoretically speaking, a higher average speed limit could be attainable without
• 1:14:59
  consuming more power, but there's still a volume of cars problems, but
• 1:15:02
  they're going to take care of that.
• 1:15:03
  They'll make all the petrol cars illegal, you know, it's coming or at least the
• 1:15:06
  conspiracy theorists believe it that way.
• 1:15:08
  There's probably an ounce of truth to that, but it's going to take a very
• 1:15:11
  long, it'll be beyond our lifetime before we see the last petrol car,
• 1:15:15
  not able to drive on the road.
• 1:15:16
  It's a scary thing with all the computer stuff and how integrated and
• 1:15:21
  in the cloud the cars are becoming.
• 1:15:23
  I mean, who's to say that somebody doesn't just push a
• 1:15:25
  button and slows your car down.
• 1:15:26
  Or stops traffic altogether.
• 1:15:28
  I mean, you make fun of these movies like the Italian job where they took
• 1:15:31
  over all the traffic lights and the Fast and the Furious where they hacked.
• 1:15:33
  You know, it's kind of thing, but let's just say in the real world, some of
• 1:15:37
  these it systems are not that secure or not as secure as they could be.
• 1:15:41
  And there's new vulnerabilities and exploits being derived, you
• 1:15:45
  know, zero day attacks and all these kinds of things every day.
• 1:15:48
  So let's just say somebody could get through and stop Skynet and
• 1:15:52
  all of the levitating eggs just suddenly freeze and you're locked.
• 1:15:56
  In it, it's got no windows, no artificial recirculating air, and your
• 1:15:59
  VR goggles are still showing you Cupman or whatever, you know, video game
• 1:16:03
  you're playing while this is going on.
• 1:16:05
  It's kind of a scary reality, if we get to that point.
• 1:16:08
  No thanks, I have a horse.
• 1:16:09
  There's a lot of movement going on.
• 1:16:11
  So, Europe influences California, California influencing
• 1:16:15
  the District of Columbia.
• 1:16:16
  I understand the District's complaint at the end of the day.
• 1:16:19
  If you read the article, they're not saying they're blanket doing this.
• 1:16:22
  I can't say necessarily, I disagree.
• 1:16:25
  If this is truly that it's repeated offenders would get a governor installed.
• 1:16:30
  I saw where it said first time offenders.
• 1:16:33
  Is it first time?
• 1:16:34
  Would get it for a year.
• 1:16:36
  Yeah.
• 1:16:36
  Well, that's a little bit harsh.
• 1:16:37
  For like major speeders.
• 1:16:39
  Well, first of all, drunk driver shouldn't.
• 1:16:41
  That's a different story.
• 1:16:42
  Punishing people like that, by all means.
• 1:16:45
  And part of DC's problem, and I get it, is the fact that they have a lot
• 1:16:49
  of Unrecognized revenue based on all these speeding tickets and cameras and
• 1:16:55
  all this kind of stuff because a lot of the folks that are speeding through
• 1:16:58
  the district are from out of state.
• 1:17:00
  Well, let's face it.
• 1:17:01
  DC is like what, seven square miles or something like that?
• 1:17:04
  It's not that big.
• 1:17:04
  It's like, okay, everybody's out of state.
• 1:17:07
  So you're going to put all these punitive legislation against the, so
• 1:17:11
  many people that live in the district.
• 1:17:13
  And then how many of those are a diplomat tags where they
• 1:17:16
  get everything waived anyway.
• 1:17:17
  So it's like, there's a small percentage of the population in the district of
• 1:17:21
  Columbia that actually lives there.
• 1:17:22
  That's actually registered there.
• 1:17:23
  And they're the ones that are going to be getting nailed.
• 1:17:25
  Does this really solve a problem?
• 1:17:26
  And then what you put a restrictor on my car.
• 1:17:28
  If.
• 1:17:29
  Maryland and Virginia and Delaware and everybody else
• 1:17:32
  doesn't have any reciprocity.
• 1:17:33
  I don't see how they could do that.
• 1:17:35
  And how could they put it on the out of states?
• 1:17:37
  What's their jurisdiction?
• 1:17:38
  They don't have any.
• 1:17:39
  See, again, it's the taxation with no representation thing.
• 1:17:42
  It's never going to get anywhere.
• 1:17:43
  It's big talk.
• 1:17:43
  But if California has their way, then it'll become part of these new rules.
• 1:17:48
  And all the manufacturers will have to bow down to that.
• 1:17:51
  That's the scary part is you will start seeing cars that are GPS limited.
• 1:17:55
  And as we said before, it's going to come in the cars.
• 1:17:58
  That have all these fancy fly by wire features.
• 1:18:01
  Think about this.
• 1:18:02
  We joked about the solution to the electronic brakes failing on
• 1:18:05
  the Fisker Ocean, but when your brakes are electronic, I can
• 1:18:08
  override them and slow down the car.
• 1:18:10
  And it doesn't matter how hard or how you didn't hit that pedal.
• 1:18:13
  The analog systems are still unhackable at the end of the day, unless you bust
• 1:18:17
  the brake line, which is pretty rare.
• 1:18:19
  Well, this next one, you know, we need to lighten the mood a little bit.
• 1:18:24
  So there's a great meme that we found, and this one's specifically for Tanya, and
• 1:18:28
  we're going to post it in our show notes.
• 1:18:30
  And it's a picture that says GTR or RX 7.
• 1:18:34
  And what are the pictures of, Tanya?
• 1:18:35
  Garbage.
• 1:18:37
  It's a Chevy Impala from the early 2000s and a Ford Taurus
• 1:18:42
  from the same time period.
• 1:18:43
  So which one do you choose?
• 1:18:45
  GTR or RX 7?
• 1:18:46
  Horse.
• 1:18:47
  Walk.
• 1:18:48
  Bicycle.
• 1:18:50
  These are the two cars we get to pick from, guys.
• 1:18:52
  Which would you choose?
• 1:18:52
  These are the only two left on Rent A Wreck.
• 1:18:55
  All the other levitating eggs are out.
• 1:18:57
  These are the two cars that are left.
• 1:18:59
  Which one do you choose?
• 1:19:00
  You know, honestly, because I've never driven one, I'm
• 1:19:02
  just gonna choose the Escort.
• 1:19:04
  It's a Taurus!
• 1:19:05
  Oh, yeah, sorry, Taurus.
• 1:19:10
  Not on here.
• 1:19:12
  What about you, Brad?
• 1:19:13
  Are you a blue oval or Chevy man?
• 1:19:15
  What do you pick?
• 1:19:16
  I'm going to choose the Impala because I feel like it would be a more comfortable
• 1:19:21
  ride as I go off the cliff and plummet.
• 1:19:25
  That you've done the Louise yourself.
• 1:19:27
  I think Ford has more spontaneous combustion issues in their lineup than
• 1:19:33
  Chevy, so I'm going with the Chevy.
• 1:19:35
  Oh, good, then it'll be put out of its misery quickly.
• 1:19:38
  I'm going the lap of luxury.
• 1:19:40
  I'm trying to really pull on those distant, distant, distant Cadillac
• 1:19:45
  relative genes in the Impala.
• 1:19:49
  I guess that leaves me to break the tie.
• 1:19:51
  I'm going to choose the RX 7.
• 1:19:52
  I mean, the Taurus.
• 1:19:53
  The Escort.
• 1:19:54
  I Yes, only because I know it shares DNA with the ever popular, globally
• 1:20:00
  renowned Monday and I wouldn't be caught dead in an Impala of that era.
• 1:20:04
  So, sorry, they're terrible.
• 1:20:06
  You wouldn't be caught.
• 1:20:06
  You'd be in the trunk.
• 1:20:08
  Ain't that the truth.
• 1:20:09
  Well, speaking of getting stuck in things.
• 1:20:11
  Have you seen this Instagram reel of Jeremy Clarkson and McLaren?
• 1:20:15
  Why can't he get out of it?
• 1:20:17
  That's the point.
• 1:20:17
  He can't figure out where the door handle is?
• 1:20:19
  And the best part is, you don't realize it's him until he starts
• 1:20:21
  talking to the other person.
• 1:20:23
  That's funny.
• 1:20:23
  Well, it's not all fun and games in Lowered Expectations.
• 1:20:27
  This next one is sad.
• 1:20:29
  And I think it needs some explanation.
• 1:20:30
  Right, Tanya?
• 1:20:31
  I mean, I don't know why they just vandalized this Waymo card
• 1:20:35
  just because the people in San Francisco just lit it on fire.
• 1:20:39
  I don't get it either.
• 1:20:40
  And I was just in San Francisco in December and I
• 1:20:42
  saw these running around town.
• 1:20:44
  I mean, they're pretty benign.
• 1:20:45
  You know that they're there.
• 1:20:46
  They're riddled with cameras and stuff.
• 1:20:48
  Why it felt like you remember back in the nineties, Brad and university of
• 1:20:52
  Maryland winning the football game.
• 1:20:54
  And they're like knocking down the goalposts and trying
• 1:20:56
  to burn the college down.
• 1:20:57
  Is that what we're doing here?
• 1:20:58
  Yeah.
• 1:20:58
  I was wondering, does this have to do with the 49ers with
• 1:21:01
  the Superbowl and the 49ers?
• 1:21:03
  It was February 11th.
• 1:21:04
  Oh, Superbowl Sunday.
• 1:21:05
  So maybe because there's nobody in it, they figured they could go crazy and
• 1:21:09
  riot and just burn a wemo to the ground.
• 1:21:12
  There's a lot of purple gases.
• 1:21:14
  That are released when batteries are burned, so these people
• 1:21:17
  aren't of high intelligence.
• 1:21:18
  I feel like the fact that it's a Wemo is just like an anecdote.
• 1:21:21
  I don't condone, I couldn't vandalize anything like that or anything at all.
• 1:21:26
  It was just a coincidence that it was an electric car.
• 1:21:29
  I don't think they single out that car and say, we're going to destroy this
• 1:21:33
  electric car because it's an electric car.
• 1:21:35
  I don't think that's what happened.
• 1:21:36
  I think they were just a bunch of drunk people that thought they were having a
• 1:21:39
  good time and were just being really dumb.
• 1:21:41
  But in a really fun cartoon sort of way, I would have liked to have seen
• 1:21:44
  a video of it fleeing the scene on fire and like panels falling off.
• 1:21:49
  There's nobody actually driving the car, but it's like, it starts
• 1:21:51
  screaming, must return to base.
• 1:21:53
  Let's return to base.
• 1:21:54
  That would have been so sad for the machine.
• 1:21:57
  A little bit too, uh, WALL E, you know?
• 1:21:59
  Weemo 5 is alive.
• 1:22:03
  Well, it's time to go down south and talk about alligators and beer.
• 1:22:22
  Okay, so we will go to Florida, but first we're going to be up north
• 1:22:26
  around Grand Rapids, Sturgis, Michigan.
• 1:22:29
  The Florida of Michigan.
• 1:22:30
  I thought Sturgis was like in the Dakotas.
• 1:22:32
  Well, there's multiple, like, cities all have the same names, right?
• 1:22:36
  There's a Springfield in every state.
• 1:22:37
  There's a Sturgis in every state.
• 1:22:38
  Well, anyway, we're in Michigan.
• 1:22:40
  We're 90 miles south of Grand Rapids.
• 1:22:42
  Is there a big Amish population in Michigan?
• 1:22:44
  Yeah, just like there is in Ohio and Pennsylvania.
• 1:22:46
  Is there really?
• 1:22:47
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:47
  In Michigan?
• 1:22:48
  Yeah, it's there.
• 1:22:50
  I didn't appreciate that.
• 1:22:51
  Okay.
• 1:22:52
  Well, this woman stole a horse and buggy from some Amish folk, Walmart parking
• 1:22:58
  lot, which also the Amish shop at Walmart.
• 1:23:00
  We got to start with that.
• 1:23:02
  What are they buying at Walmart?
• 1:23:03
  I don't know.
• 1:23:04
  I don't admittedly know much about the Amish.
• 1:23:06
  Maybe they were reenacting the Griswold family vacation where
• 1:23:11
  they were on rumspringa to Walmart.
• 1:23:14
  It's Michigan.
• 1:23:15
  Where else are they going to go?
• 1:23:16
  Detroit?
• 1:23:16
  Well, who knows, but the problem is, though, for whatever her purposes
• 1:23:19
  was, legally, it was better to have stolen a car to have received
• 1:23:23
  a misdemeanor instead of by some horse laws and getting a felony.
• 1:23:27
  Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
• 1:23:29
  How is Grand Theft Auto a misdemeanor?
• 1:23:31
  It doesn't endanger a horse.
• 1:23:33
  Well, how much horsepower was in the car?
• 1:23:35
  There was one horsepower in the buggy.
• 1:23:37
  The distinction to your question is, if she was just doing this
• 1:23:40
  to go joyride, it would have been a misdemeanor on the auto thing.
• 1:23:43
  If she was stealing it to steal it permanently, then
• 1:23:45
  I think it becomes a felony.
• 1:23:46
  But there is no question, I think, when it's a horse and buggy, whether it was
• 1:23:52
  a joyride or not, I think it's a felony.
• 1:23:56
  Oh my god.
• 1:23:57
  It's felony.
• 1:23:57
  It's the livestock aspect of this.
• 1:24:00
  It's a horse, of course.
• 1:24:01
  This is insane.
• 1:24:02
  Well, and then what do you do with it?
• 1:24:04
  Are you prepared to take care of a horse?
• 1:24:06
  She's like, I'm going to rescue you.
• 1:24:08
  You're going to be my friend.
• 1:24:09
  I am going to give you carrots.
• 1:24:10
  It could have been an act of saving the horse or something like that.
• 1:24:13
  I mean, I, I mean, wilder things go through people's heads.
• 1:24:16
  But I would be like, okay, cool.
• 1:24:17
  There's a horse over there.
• 1:24:18
  Whatever.
• 1:24:18
  What a time to be alive where we get to talk on this show about a tool bag
• 1:24:23
  sitting in a cyber truck, playing with his hands, with his VR and a woman stealing
• 1:24:28
  a horse and buggy in the same show in the same country in 2024, how does stuff
• 1:24:33
  like this still happen and what possesses people to be like, you know what I'm
• 1:24:37
  going to steal that horse and buggy.
• 1:24:38
  We could put this on Ripley's, believe it or not, you know,
• 1:24:41
  again, two lies and a truth, right?
• 1:24:42
  Or whatever it is.
• 1:24:43
  So here we are.
• 1:24:44
  Did she get caught?
• 1:24:45
  Uh, I mean, did they catch her?
• 1:24:48
  Did the police have their own horse and buggy chase?
• 1:24:52
  This is slowest getaway in the history of the world.
• 1:24:55
  It ended up looking like the LA in the nineties.
• 1:24:58
  It was a low speed chase, multiple cop cars.
• 1:25:01
  They're boxing her in the whole thing.
• 1:25:03
  Jerry's and Barry's man.
• 1:25:04
  Did she ditch the wagon and just hop on the horse to go faster?
• 1:25:08
  What is this West world?
• 1:25:11
  Yes, it was Dolores.
• 1:25:13
  So, yes.
• 1:25:14
  They found the horse and buggy abandoned, and then they found her nearby at a motel.
• 1:25:20
  Covered in horse poop.
• 1:25:22
  Yeah, she was at a motel.
• 1:25:24
  You had to get somewhere.
• 1:25:25
  The only option was the horse.
• 1:25:27
  Did she hitch the horse to a post when she went to the inn?
• 1:25:31
  If you're gonna steal something from a Walmart parking lot
• 1:25:33
  Honestly, that's probably the best thing to steal from a Walmart.
• 1:25:37
  There's probably not much else there you're gonna Steal a couple of
• 1:25:40
  Impalas, some F 150s from the 80s.
• 1:25:43
  It goes back to what we were talking about earlier.
• 1:25:45
  Simple solutions for simple problems.
• 1:25:47
  In this case, why steal a horse and buggy?
• 1:25:49
  Get a bicycle.
• 1:25:50
  It's going to be faster.
• 1:25:52
  Like, I don't get it.
• 1:25:53
  I just don't.
• 1:25:54
  So what's next?
• 1:25:55
  What else is for Florida man?
• 1:25:56
  Well, that was Michigan.
• 1:25:57
  Now we'll go to Florida.
• 1:25:58
  Oh boy.
• 1:25:59
  Was there a Rolex man?
• 1:26:01
  That's what we really need to dive into.
• 1:26:03
  And can you imagine if the Superbowl had been in Florida?
• 1:26:06
  Good night.
• 1:26:07
  We'd have stories for the next 20 years.
• 1:26:09
  No Rolex man.
• 1:26:10
  Okay.
• 1:26:10
  Well, what happened in Florida then?
• 1:26:11
  Well, I'll start with the worst of the two and worst being like, this is just absurd.
• 1:26:15
  So this Florida man carjacks someone.
• 1:26:18
  That's still a thing?
• 1:26:19
  Yes.
• 1:26:19
  But who does he carjack?
• 1:26:20
  He carjacks his grandmother.
• 1:26:22
  Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
• 1:26:24
  Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
• 1:26:26
  You know, he knows it's his grandmother.
• 1:26:27
  Carjacks, of course, gets arrested.
• 1:26:29
  And then writes her a four page apology letter.
• 1:26:32
  Meemaw, I'm sorry.
• 1:26:33
  Meemaw, please don't put me in jail.
• 1:26:35
  Please don't press the charges on me, Meemaw.
• 1:26:38
  Can I have some meatloaf?
• 1:26:39
  Unreal.
• 1:26:40
  How about you not carjack your grandmother?
• 1:26:43
  You just asked your grandmother to borrow the car.
• 1:26:45
  What did he do?
• 1:26:47
  Carjacker at the end of the driveway?
• 1:26:48
  Get out.
• 1:26:49
  I need to go to Walmart.
• 1:26:50
  I need to meet somebody head of motel after they pour some muggy.
• 1:26:54
  But let's flip this around.
• 1:26:55
  Imagine you're the carjacker and it's like old school 90s carjacking.
• 1:27:00
  So you just run up at the intersection and grab the person out of the car.
• 1:27:03
  Like they were doing it in LA and stuff.
• 1:27:05
  Right.
• 1:27:05
  Can you imagine running up and you're going, man, this car looks familiar.
• 1:27:08
  And then you grab your grandmother driver's seat, leave her in
• 1:27:12
  the middle of the road, like seriously, I'll see you later.
• 1:27:15
  He had her come outside to unlock her car under the pretense of
• 1:27:20
  getting something out of the trunk.
• 1:27:22
  And then he like.
• 1:27:23
  Grabbed the keys out of her hand and like, sadly pushed her to the
• 1:27:27
  ground and then like, stole the car.
• 1:27:29
  Okay, wait, is that really carjacking?
• 1:27:31
  I mean, loosely, but nonetheless, you couldn't have just been like, Hey, I
• 1:27:35
  need to borrow the keys to get something out of the car and then steal the car.
• 1:27:40
  Drugs are a powerful thing.
• 1:27:41
  Well, speaking of drugs.
• 1:27:42
  This next person in Florida allegedly stole an Amazon van and
• 1:27:48
  then went on a 20 mile joyride.
• 1:27:51
  The best part is the sheriff's office having a great comedic
• 1:27:55
  sense on social media.
• 1:27:56
  Quote, is your package late?
• 1:27:58
  Wow.
• 1:27:59
  Wow.
• 1:28:00
  Wow.
• 1:28:03
  So not only is this guy charged with grand theft, meth
• 1:28:06
  trafficking, possession of weed.
• 1:28:10
  Which, is that a problem in Florida anymore?
• 1:28:11
  I don't know.
• 1:28:12
  But yeah, he was lost in the neighborhood.
• 1:28:14
  And so I thought that taking the van would help him get out of
• 1:28:18
  the neighborhood he was lost in.
• 1:28:19
  What?!
• 1:28:20
  Kids, don't do drugs!
• 1:28:21
  Unbelievable.
• 1:28:22
  Is your Amazon package running late?
• 1:28:24
  Definitely.
• 1:28:25
  This last one is in Texas.
• 1:28:27
  Oh boy.
• 1:28:27
  And it's not necessarily, eh, I mean, take it for what it is.
• 1:28:30
  A 9, 000 pound Hummer EV.
• 1:28:32
  Sink so deep in Texas mud, a tow truck has to come pry it out.
• 1:28:37
  And this was like the Hummer with the super awesome off roading
• 1:28:42
  package, whatever it's called, that they have the same all terrain
• 1:28:45
  tires the Cybertruck comes with?
• 1:28:46
  It must.
• 1:28:47
  But it had the GMC Extreme Off Road Package with 35 inch mud
• 1:28:51
  terrain tires in extract mode!
• 1:28:53
  Except it had to get extracted by something else.
• 1:28:57
  I'm surprised a regular tow truck was able to extract it.
• 1:28:59
  They used the one they pull semis with.
• 1:29:01
  Yeah, that's probably what you need.
• 1:29:03
  Yeah.
• 1:29:04
  9, 000 pounds for sure.
• 1:29:05
  And then 9, 000 pounds plus the suction force of the mud, which
• 1:29:09
  pretty much doubles or triples the weight of the vehicle.
• 1:29:12
  And for those that don't understand what we're talking about, have you
• 1:29:14
  ever stepped in mud and lost your shoe?
• 1:29:17
  Because that's exactly what we're talking about here.
• 1:29:19
  In fairness, I think like anything would have probably gotten stuck
• 1:29:22
  in this like mud pit that he parked his car at his parents
• 1:29:26
  house or something to go charge it.
• 1:29:27
  For some reason in this grassy it was already swampy and wet from the rain
• 1:29:32
  and then parks it there and then it like slowly sank and then he tried to like
• 1:29:35
  get it out the act of getting it out made it dig in and sink even further
• 1:29:40
  and then it just it got beached there.
• 1:29:42
  So they pulled it out with the F 350 dually?
• 1:29:44
  They pulled it out with a Cybertruck now.
• 1:29:46
  Ah.
• 1:29:48
  All I can think of is the scene with Marissa Tomei on
• 1:29:52
  the stand and my cousin Vinny.
• 1:29:54
  Everybody knows when you get stuck in the mud in Alabama, one wheel
• 1:29:57
  turns, the other one does nothing.
• 1:30:01
  Oh, I love me some Florida, man.
• 1:30:03
  What can I say?
• 1:30:04
  Well, what I can say is it's time to go behind the pit wall
• 1:30:07
  and talk about motorsports news.
• 1:30:09
  And this month, the month of February, not only do we have the
• 1:30:13
  Super Bowl and the 24 Hours of Rolex, we also had the Daytona 500.
• 1:30:18
  So we dedicated to the month of February.
• 1:30:20
  To NASCAR and its derivatives.
• 1:30:23
  So we kicked it off with origin stories about Bill France, the
• 1:30:27
  evolution of NASCAR, all the way into a discussion about NASCAR in space.
• 1:30:32
  And we had special guests, Steve Post, who's been the voice of NASCAR on MRN.
• 1:30:36
  That's the motor racing news network for over 20 years on the show.
• 1:30:40
  We caught up with him.
• 1:30:41
  We did a two parter with Steve, and there's a lot of other great
• 1:30:44
  content on Brake Facts that you can go back and check out.
• 1:30:48
  But did you also hear that they're going to start campaigning
• 1:30:52
  EVs in NASCAR this year?
• 1:30:54
  What do they do, like three laps and then?
• 1:30:56
  I'm trying to figure that out because I wasn't sure how you put a four
• 1:30:59
  speed and four barrel car on an EV.
• 1:31:01
  You know how the rules are in NASCAR sometimes.
• 1:31:03
  I mean, they did it with the Formula E, I guess.
• 1:31:05
  Why not?
• 1:31:06
  All jokes aside, with the new sprint race format, which Formula One has
• 1:31:10
  Started to sort of adopt as well over the last couple of years, I can see
• 1:31:14
  them building an EV that lasts long enough to run those shorter races.
• 1:31:18
  And to your point, they probably have to change cars, especially a longer
• 1:31:21
  race, but I think we're going to start to see more EVs campaigned in NASCAR.
• 1:31:25
  So.
• 1:31:26
  Between the seventh generation garage, 56 type Camaro, all that kind of stuff.
• 1:31:30
  There's lots of technology advancements happening in NASCAR.
• 1:31:34
  So if you're not a fan today, I would say start paying attention because there's
• 1:31:37
  a lot of really cool stuff going on.
• 1:31:39
  I mean, running in formula E braking and you're not flat out for 500 laps is very
• 1:31:45
  different than Running around an oval, it flat out for an extended period of time.
• 1:31:49
  I don't see how that went around the wait and see.
• 1:31:51
  Well, what does it sound like?
• 1:31:52
  Can you imagine?
• 1:31:57
  Yeah, that's pretty much it, right?
• 1:31:59
  We got to switch to formula one because there is so much drama going on right now.
• 1:32:03
  Danny Rick, Danny Rick, what can we say?
• 1:32:05
  So he's with our.
• 1:32:07
  B now?
• 1:32:08
  Visa, paycheck, cash app, blue thing.
• 1:32:12
  Is that an Indy car?
• 1:32:12
  It's not a Formula car, right?
• 1:32:14
  What?
• 1:32:14
  It looks like an Indy car.
• 1:32:16
  The way they decorated it.
• 1:32:17
  Delivery.
• 1:32:18
  Because all the other Formula cars look all the same every year.
• 1:32:21
  I can never tell.
• 1:32:21
  The Aston looks like an Aston.
• 1:32:23
  The Ferrari is still red.
• 1:32:24
  The Mercedes is silver.
• 1:32:26
  I don't know.
• 1:32:26
  They always look the same.
• 1:32:27
  Everybody makes such a big deal.
• 1:32:29
  This steak doesn't look the same.
• 1:32:30
  Is it still steak?
• 1:32:31
  I thought they were, they couldn't be steak.
• 1:32:33
  They can't use that name.
• 1:32:34
  Why can't they use steak?
• 1:32:36
  I don't know, but I thought I saw Are they vegetarians?
• 1:32:39
  They're vegans, aren't they?
• 1:32:40
  But it's not!
• 1:32:40
  The Vampire Coalition should be involved.
• 1:32:42
  It's not like a steak like you eat.
• 1:32:44
  It's like a steak, steak in the ground.
• 1:32:46
  I know, it's the Lumber Coalition.
• 1:32:48
  The Lumber Coalition's involved.
• 1:32:50
  Isn't it a betting thing?
• 1:32:51
  Like a sports book?
• 1:32:52
  It is, exactly.
• 1:32:53
  I don't know if they've officially changed from steak, but I thought I saw something
• 1:32:57
  that said that they can't use that.
• 1:32:58
  All kinds of cool stuff about Christian Horner, though.
• 1:33:00
  Christian Horny.
• 1:33:01
  We will get into that, for sure.
• 1:33:03
  What in the heck is going on in Formula 1 in 2024 and not just
• 1:33:06
  new liveries like the Visa, Cash App, MoneyGram, Chipotle special.
• 1:33:10
  There's nothing going on.
• 1:33:11
  Formula 1 has been so boring this off season.
• 1:33:13
  All the drivers are staying put.
• 1:33:15
  The team principals have their jobs for next year.
• 1:33:18
  There's been zero controversy.
• 1:33:19
  I mean, I've literally slept through the entire F1 off season.
• 1:33:24
  What about you, Tanya?
• 1:33:25
  What did I miss?
• 1:33:25
  You're absolutely right.
• 1:33:26
  I haven't heard any news.
• 1:33:27
  It's been pretty quiet.
• 1:33:28
  Obviously they started pre season testing this weekend.
• 1:33:31
  So other than that, I mean, it's business as usual.
• 1:33:34
  Andretti got his team, right?
• 1:33:35
  Is that what I heard?
• 1:33:36
  Andretti got his team.
• 1:33:37
  Porsche and Audi are both coming.
• 1:33:39
  Christian Horner is a standup citizen.
• 1:33:42
  Susie and Toto Wolf.
• 1:33:43
  Were not investigated.
• 1:33:45
  And then Uninvestigated, Gunther Steiner is still at Haas, so
• 1:33:48
  this is like 16 lies in a truth.
• 1:33:51
  Even I'm paying attention to this and I don't generally pay attention
• 1:33:53
  to Formula One that much anymore.
• 1:33:55
  Yeah.
• 1:33:55
  What else did not happen?
• 1:33:57
  Lewis Hamilton is going to sign with Mercedes for the rest of
• 1:34:01
  his life, even after his career.
• 1:34:03
  He's going to sign on for an ownership deal and he's gonna wear
• 1:34:07
  the three pointed star on his.
• 1:34:09
  Tombstone.
• 1:34:10
  If this was the April Fool's special, I'd say you all are correct.
• 1:34:13
  Everything that has been said is the exact opposite.
• 1:34:16
  So where do we start with this?
• 1:34:17
  So has Christian Horner been, like, what's happened with that?
• 1:34:20
  Like, he's accused of some inappropriate conduct towards a female employee.
• 1:34:25
  What it means is He updated his LinkedIn and it now says
• 1:34:29
  open to work down to clowns.
• 1:34:32
  What it says, I think that's what got him in trouble to begin with.
• 1:34:37
  Maybe allegedly possibly or ginger spice, poor Jerry Hallowell.
• 1:34:42
  Yeah.
• 1:34:42
  That blows my mind, man.
• 1:34:44
  He seems like such a nice.
• 1:34:46
  But I knew Christian Horner was a tool bag.
• 1:34:47
  You said that many times before.
• 1:34:50
  Well, cause I've got, I've got a man crush on Toto.
• 1:34:51
  That's why.
• 1:34:52
  Okay.
• 1:34:53
  Is that second to your Daniel Ricardo man crush as well?
• 1:34:56
  Toto's a man.
• 1:34:56
  Daniel's just a boy.
• 1:34:57
  Toto's a man.
• 1:34:58
  Oh, okay.
• 1:34:59
  I have a boy crush on Daniel.
• 1:35:00
  Real talk.
• 1:35:01
  Does this open the door to allow Gunther Steiner to come back?
• 1:35:05
  Does he get Christian Horner's job?
• 1:35:06
  That guy is No.
• 1:35:07
  Steiner never should have had the job at Haas.
• 1:35:11
  He like bullshitted his way to get that job.
• 1:35:14
  As much as I love him, this is not for you, my friend, find a new day job.
• 1:35:18
  Can you imagine how all this is going to play out in Drive to Survive?
• 1:35:21
  You need Gunther in there.
• 1:35:22
  Well, he'll be in one more season and that's it.
• 1:35:26
  So in Dreddy's Out, they rumored a possibility of
• 1:35:28
  Formula One racing in Chicago.
• 1:35:31
  We're not sure if that's the same street course they use for NASCAR
• 1:35:33
  and IndyCar, things like that.
• 1:35:34
  That's kind of interesting.
• 1:35:35
  That would put us up to what, like four locations in the United States.
• 1:35:39
  For Formula One Grand Prixs, that's huge.
• 1:35:41
  I mean, why we can't go back to Watkins Glen is beyond me, but Hey, you know,
• 1:35:44
  that was the old Formula One Grand Prix of the U S back in the day.
• 1:35:47
  Could you imagine these cars at Watkins Glen though?
• 1:35:50
  I can, and I want to dream and I want to hope.
• 1:35:53
  Yeah.
• 1:35:53
  They talked about it, but who knows?
• 1:35:55
  It's not on the schedule this year, so it's not happening.
• 1:35:57
  Yeah.
• 1:35:57
  But in the future, we could be adding another track to the schedule.
• 1:36:00
  Can you imagine four races in the U S for Formula One?
• 1:36:04
  That'd be pretty good.
• 1:36:05
  Four races that are still too expensive for me to go.
• 1:36:07
  Oh, a hundred percent.
• 1:36:08
  So Christian Horner's on the outs, Gunther's looking for a job still, he's
• 1:36:12
  on the unemployment line, Andretti's out, like, out, out, like, I think,
• 1:36:15
  hopefully that's either finally dead, or, I don't know what they're gonna
• 1:36:19
  do there, maybe he'll just buy Haas.
• 1:36:21
  I don't think it's finally dead, I think they're still He's still trying,
• 1:36:24
  and I agree, Gene Haas has not been happy with his team's performance
• 1:36:28
  in F1 since I've been watching.
• 1:36:31
  They're touted as the all American F1 team, right?
• 1:36:34
  So it's like, why doesn't Andretti just partner with Haas?
• 1:36:36
  Is there some other blockage going on there?
• 1:36:38
  Or just Gene, he's just trying to be a dictator?
• 1:36:41
  I don't get it.
• 1:36:41
  Maybe he's just trying to be something with the word dick in it.
• 1:36:45
  He's just trying to be a, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:36:47
  And then.
• 1:36:47
  Yeah, we'll see Leclerc and Norris lock their contracts.
• 1:36:50
  Who's Leclerc going to be driving for?
• 1:36:52
  Ferrari?
• 1:36:53
  Yeah.
• 1:36:53
  So alongside of Lewis Hamilton.
• 1:36:56
  Next year.
• 1:36:56
  So here's the question, which one's going to be the primary driver?
• 1:36:59
  Which one's going to be number one?
• 1:37:00
  Yeah, because he is the primary Ferrari driver.
• 1:37:03
  How do you let him be the primary Ferrari driver when seven
• 1:37:07
  time champion, whatever he is?
• 1:37:09
  Louis Hamilton is on the team.
• 1:37:11
  Is it seven or eight?
• 1:37:12
  It's not eight.
• 1:37:12
  It's seven.
• 1:37:13
  But I thought everybody said he had more championships than
• 1:37:16
  Schumacher and Schumacher had seven.
• 1:37:17
  No.
• 1:37:18
  I think he tied Schumacher.
• 1:37:19
  I heard it was eight time champion.
• 1:37:21
  Maybe I'm wrong about that.
• 1:37:22
  No.
• 1:37:23
  He's got seven titles but I think he's got more total wins than Schumacher.
• 1:37:28
  Okay.
• 1:37:28
  He definitely has more total wins.
• 1:37:29
  Like podium.
• 1:37:30
  First place podiums.
• 1:37:31
  Which doesn't mean anything.
• 1:37:32
  The championships.
• 1:37:33
  Matter more, they're tied.
• 1:37:35
  Point being, I thought Hamilton was not, no way, not know how.
• 1:37:40
  I'm never going to Ferrari because he never wanted to be
• 1:37:44
  considered like Schumacher.
• 1:37:45
  It said that it's been a childhood dream to drive for Ferrari.
• 1:37:49
  So which is it?
• 1:37:49
  I don't know.
• 1:37:50
  I've never heard him say that he didn't wanna be associated with Schumacher, but
• 1:37:53
  he could have gone to Ferrari ages ago.
• 1:37:55
  That doesn't make any sense.
• 1:37:56
  No.
• 1:37:56
  Why would he have left the cash cow Mercedes that was winning
• 1:37:59
  championship after championship?
• 1:38:01
  Yeah.
• 1:38:01
  It wasn't until two years ago that Mercedes fell off a little bit.
• 1:38:05
  And not to Ferrari.
• 1:38:07
  Where's Ferrari been?
• 1:38:08
  I can't remember the last time Ferrari was like legitimately competing.
• 1:38:12
  Yeah, it was Vettel.
• 1:38:14
  I think Vettel and Kimi.
• 1:38:15
  I heard something about Ford engines on Red Bull.
• 1:38:17
  I heard Ford might be making a comeback to Formula One after all these years.
• 1:38:22
  Yeah, not this year though.
• 1:38:24
  But a lot of these changes, like even Hamilton going to Ferrari
• 1:38:27
  doesn't happen until next year.
• 1:38:28
  Right?
• 1:38:29
  So let's just say by the grace of whatever powerful being, he wins a
• 1:38:34
  championship with Mercedes this year, which is probably a stretch of the
• 1:38:37
  imagination to say that not gonna happen.
• 1:38:41
  Let's say he gets his eighth.
• 1:38:42
  Is there even a point of going to Ferrari?
• 1:38:44
  Sure, why not?
• 1:38:44
  Money.
• 1:38:45
  I guess.
• 1:38:45
  Say you drove for Ferrari.
• 1:38:46
  Yeah, but why would Ferrari want a backmarker?
• 1:38:48
  Because he's like middle of the pack now.
• 1:38:50
  Wait, you just said if he won a championship, why would he go to Ferrari?
• 1:38:53
  If he, of course, Ferrari will want him if he wins another championship.
• 1:38:57
  No, my point is you get your eighth, you have all the records.
• 1:39:00
  You got the most wins and the most championships.
• 1:39:02
  Wouldn't you just hang it up and be like, I'm done.
• 1:39:04
  I'm good.
• 1:39:05
  Would you go drive for a Ferrari?
• 1:39:06
  Cause what the hell do you have to else to lose?
• 1:39:08
  Yeah.
• 1:39:08
  You look good in red.
• 1:39:09
  Yeah.
• 1:39:09
  But then you go to Ferrari and you don't have to really participate.
• 1:39:12
  You can just kind of show up kind of like Schumacher did when he came back
• 1:39:15
  after he left Ferrari, he was kind of like, yeah, whatever I'm here.
• 1:39:18
  I'm the car.
• 1:39:19
  I don't really have to drive that hard.
• 1:39:21
  I don't know that I believe that.
• 1:39:22
  I think if you're a competitor, you're a competitor.
• 1:39:24
  Long shot, if he wins again this year, he will try to win with Ferrari as well,
• 1:39:29
  unless they make a strategic decision as a team that the cleric is the future
• 1:39:33
  and the cleric is the number one.
• 1:39:34
  And Lewis is in a more support role given his age and where he's at in his career,
• 1:39:39
  his stage, it ends up just like it was in the eighties with Gerhard Berger and
• 1:39:44
  John Lazy and playing that stupid game.
• 1:39:47
  You had burger kind of there, just like, or, you know, whatever, just.
• 1:39:50
  To have a second person with a name in the car.
• 1:39:52
  He's not a backmarker, because if the car is competitive, then
• 1:39:55
  Leclerc should be in first position, and Hamilton becomes Botas.
• 1:39:59
  He's there to take second in block.
• 1:40:01
  This is about the team and the constructors championship at this
• 1:40:04
  point, and trying to get points for that, versus the drivers championship.
• 1:40:08
  That's not what Formula One is supposed to be about, though.
• 1:40:11
  And to me, this is why I can't watch it anymore.
• 1:40:13
  It takes away from the spirit of the sport.
• 1:40:15
  It's all this politics.
• 1:40:16
  There's always been drivers orders.
• 1:40:18
  That's nothing new.
• 1:40:19
  There is a cutoff point, like in the prost days with Senna,
• 1:40:23
  like that didn't really exist.
• 1:40:24
  They drove as hard as they possibly could and damn near killed each
• 1:40:28
  other every time they went out.
• 1:40:29
  Because they said, I'm not listening to the orders.
• 1:40:31
  Yeah.
• 1:40:31
  And did every team have two drivers?
• 1:40:33
  Yeah.
• 1:40:33
  It's always been that way.
• 1:40:34
  It's forever.
• 1:40:35
  It's always been that.
• 1:40:36
  There was a point that it changed.
• 1:40:37
  And I remember the team orders being a big deal when it was
• 1:40:41
  Schumacher and Barrichello.
• 1:40:43
  Because up until that point with like Eddie Irvine and all that stuff.
• 1:40:45
  like, yeah, like whatever, but when it was Schumacher and Barrichello, then
• 1:40:50
  it became a whole deal where there were a couple of times where like Rubens
• 1:40:52
  was going to win the race and they're like, you need to let Michael come by.
• 1:40:56
  He's got to take the lead.
• 1:40:57
  Even though you're like way ahead, you know?
• 1:40:59
  And so team order started to become a thing there in the late
• 1:41:02
  nineties, early two thousands.
• 1:41:04
  And it's just like, yeah, so it's been like 30 years.
• 1:41:06
  It's nothing new that there's team orders in the formula one.
• 1:41:09
  It's not like five years ago they started doing team.
• 1:41:10
  No, but even then it wasn't as.
• 1:41:12
  Prevalent is it is now where it's like literally we're all tuning into the
• 1:41:16
  driver broadcast and you're hearing them just tell the drivers like what to do
• 1:41:20
  and they're just kind of doing it and it's like they're not racing anymore.
• 1:41:23
  They got their spotters telling them exactly what to do.
• 1:41:25
  To me, I feel like it takes away from the sport could be wrong.
• 1:41:28
  You don't even watch.
• 1:41:30
  I feel like what you just described is in every racing.
• 1:41:33
  Program, I'm sharing with the multiple teams.
• 1:41:36
  There's team orders.
• 1:41:37
  Now, every once in a while, the team models will be let them race case in point
• 1:41:41
  with team Corvette, it's the legendary Daytona race at the final laps where they
• 1:41:45
  were battling it out with each other.
• 1:41:46
  Botas and Hamilton did that a few times when they were teammates.
• 1:41:50
  Well, there's also the team orders of y'all are one and two, stop fucking
• 1:41:53
  around and crash and not be one and two at all and be DNF, right?
• 1:41:57
  Yeah.
• 1:41:58
  The team orders that these cars are expensive.
• 1:42:00
  Let's not have to be jackasses kind of thing, but it's in
• 1:42:03
  every, it's not just formula one.
• 1:42:04
  I guarantee you any team motor sport, there's team orders.
• 1:42:07
  Guaranteed.
• 1:42:08
  I think they're just different, the way they're executed.
• 1:42:10
  Like, I think the IMSA team orders are like, Hey, you're going to be out for
• 1:42:13
  this amount of time and to do this.
• 1:42:15
  Like, it's different in endurance racing than it is in Formula One, right?
• 1:42:18
  Well, endurance racing, you have time to be like, Well, in 45 minutes,
• 1:42:22
  you're going to let the guy, whatever.
• 1:42:24
  Like here, it's like in four seconds, he's up your ass.
• 1:42:28
  Just give him the pass.
• 1:42:30
  Well, maybe I'll start tuning in, because I found out the other day that you can
• 1:42:34
  somehow access Formula 1 through ESPN Plus, but I got a resource for you.
• 1:42:37
  No, you can't.
• 1:42:38
  You cannot access it.
• 1:42:39
  But it's false advertising.
• 1:42:41
  That came from Hulu.
• 1:42:43
  What did it say?
• 1:42:44
  Free with your Disney Plus access?
• 1:42:47
  Well, why did they show Formula 1 there with all the other stuff?
• 1:42:50
  Because they want you to buy.
• 1:42:51
  Yes, they want you to realize that suddenly you have to
• 1:42:54
  buy the ESPN subscription.
• 1:42:56
  Because ESPN plus is just the app to ESPN.
• 1:42:59
  It's like the most convoluted thing.
• 1:43:01
  Like you still have to pay for ESPN, and then you pay for the
• 1:43:04
  app to watch the shit from ESPN.
• 1:43:06
  And if you want to watch it on Hulu, you have to pay 75 a month for Hulu live.
• 1:43:11
  When you can pay that for a year subscription of F1 TV, and F1 TV
• 1:43:15
  gives you so much more if you're really interested in Formula 1
• 1:43:19
  because you choose the drivers and you can go into their like live.
• 1:43:22
  Feeds and like be on board with them and do all that.
• 1:43:25
  And listen to their team orders.
• 1:43:26
  You get access to like everything, which anywhere else, you're just going to
• 1:43:29
  literally see whatever the broadcast is.
• 1:43:31
  Right.
• 1:43:31
  So true fan, like that one TV makes sense.
• 1:43:34
  If you already have ESPN, then awesome.
• 1:43:36
  You get to watch formula one, but I already went through this.
• 1:43:39
  They're like, oh, I've got Disney Plus with the ESPN Plus, and everyone's
• 1:43:42
  telling me, oh, you just did thing, and then found out these people that were
• 1:43:45
  like, oh, yeah, oh, but I have ESPN.
• 1:43:48
  Oh, so that's why you watch it.
• 1:43:50
  You're paying for ESPN.
• 1:43:52
  You can try in like two weeks when the first race is there.
• 1:43:55
  I tried, and it doesn't exist.
• 1:43:56
  It's not there.
• 1:43:57
  You have to buy the other subscription.
• 1:43:58
  That's okay.
• 1:43:59
  I'll be on HBO Max watching the WEC races anyway, so it's all good.
• 1:44:04
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• 1:44:06
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• 1:44:09
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• 1:44:13
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• 1:44:16
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