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Ian Huntley Attacked In Prison | Getting To Know The Dead · DEADBUG SAYS

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  [SPEAKER_05]: On this episode of Getting To Know The Dead, I'm going to be talking about a man who had supposedly disappeared into the machinery of the British prison system.
• 0:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: An individual so reviled that even the mention of his name can make people feel physically sick, the worst comeback of all, the Peter V. Alrighty.
• 0:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: And that individual is one Ian Huntley.
• 0:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: And he's in those as of last week because someone on the inside attempted to snuff out his worthless life.
• 0:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: And if reports had to be believed from the inside, his head was almost split into, like a ripe melon.
• 0:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: And if UK news reports had to be deemed credible, he has about a 5% chance of surviving.
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: An August of 2002, two-ten-year-old girls, Holy Wells, and Jessica Chapman vanished from a small town in Cambridge, a UK called Solm.
• 1:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: And if you happened to be in the UK at the time, you couldn't have helped but be gripped by the story.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But they'd down you knew, but didn't look good.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Chances are that those girls had come, turn on time, land.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: The helicopters were everywhere, too pretty young girls, missing.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: The volunteers, the posters, the candlelight visuals, the same thing we're all used to.
• 1:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: And rarely does it come to a happy ending when children go missing.
• 1:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: But nevertheless, all of the UK will glue to the television sets hoping and praying.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: And at the center of all this was innately because he was the caretaker at the school that the girls attended and he was the last one to have seen them.
• 1:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: And anyone who is the last person to come across someone who is eventually murdered, whether aware of it or not, they are the number one suspect.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Calm, soft spoken, helpful, inserting himself into the narrative, and his girlfriend 25-year-old teacher's assistant Maxine Car was the same.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: She knew the girls.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: She was even friendly with them outside of the school, and proudly displayed a card that they'd given her, when she told them that she would be changing schools, and they said how much they'd miss her.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Although at the time when I watched her live on television, I thought something wasn't right.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: She kept referring to the girls in past tense, which anyone knows.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: is a sign that you already know that that.
• 2:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: But as they show the couple were helping out in the search, I tried to suspend my suspicions.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: The couple were arrested two and a half weeks later on August 17th, at 4.30 a.m. in the morning.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, the police believe had something to do with the abduction.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: and the murder of the two young girls, at least believed that Maxine Carr had come home early from her weekend away partying with her mother and found both the girls dead in her bathtub and that her boyfriend had done it and she went on to give him a false alibi and despite all this, she only served three and a half years and she was given total anonymity and a new identity and she's gone on now, she's married, has kids.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Very similar, if you compare the cases to Paul Bernardo and Carla Homoca, she was released given anonymity, a new life, got married, had kids happily watching them grow.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Unlike the parents of the two teenage girls that her and her boyfriend had murdered and tortured on video tape,
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And that, of course, is tragic, but then, of course, there will be the defenders of Maxine Carr, who was, say, she, you know, she served time, I guess, which, of a year or whatever, for perverting the course of justice, but at the end of the day.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: She was only 25 years old, a young woman, and she was in an abusive relationship.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And perhaps so, I don't know the ins and outs of it.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But either way, as this is going to air, the so-um child killer has currently fighting for his life.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: After being set up on by an individual, just after 9 a.m. in the prison workshop, and they found them in a very large pool of blood apparently.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And from there, he was airlifted to a nearby hospital.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Why do I get the feeling if something happened to me?
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  [SPEAKER_05]: No one would be airlifted to me anyway.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And he's currently serving a life sentence after being found guilty, as mentioned for the killing of 10-year-old girls, Holly Wells, and Jessica Chapman, who went missing from a family barbecue.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Now, according to a publication, the Convictic Killer was attacked and the weapon was a large, metal spike.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: That sounds very painful.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: After he was targeted by another inmate.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But now, sources from inside the maximum security prison say that Huntley's condition is touching go.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I feel compelled to play that song by the car as touch and go, oh, oh, touch and go.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But I can't be bothered, so I'll just sing it to you.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I have been described as having a voice of an angel.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Now, you know, it surprises me that it's been that long before someone has targeted him.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, this guy's a nuns, as they say over here, a Pito a nuns, and I suppose that's why they've protected Maxine Carr so well because I mean, she's
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  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, her alibi, she was claiming that she was home that night with Huntley and that he couldn't have killed the girls.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But it was later discovered from witnesses who'd seen her on television that she was about 16 miles away in a place called Rinsby.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Being unfaithful, she liked the cocked disco.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, I need, there's no other playway to say it so she wrote fucking around on him.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Nice, that's fucking nice.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And I guess he got horny or whatever and he'd seen these girls around because he was a caretaker at the school and they would have been familiar with him and there would have been an element of trust which if you're a parent that is creepy.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: The two girls would discover 13 days later.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And she said in a court appearance, you know, had the fans that it was abusive relationship and they turned the... Yeah, of course, in court, they turned against each other, don't they?
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that's what you do, everybody fights for this survival.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Love.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And of such thing, really, is it just the word?
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Like spaghetti, awesome list.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Now the search operation at that time to locate Holly and Jessica was one of the largest the nation had ever witnessed, and I remember it was gripping, and Ian Huntley and Maxing car actually participated in that search for the two girls, which was sickening.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Even though police had already had a strong sense that they were the ones who'd taken the kids or had some to do with it.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: There were 400 police officers, but also U.S. Army personnel involved in the search, scouring the countryside, looking for the missing best friends.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And now apparently if sources are to be believed in only is fighting for his life.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And I doubt there'd be too many people squeezing out any tears on that.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And Maxine Carr, as we know, she's still living under her secret identity, residing in a coastal town in the UK, somewhere.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And I suppose it's nice for her, but anyone who's been to a coastal town in the UK any more than a weekend is a death sentence.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And she's a grandmother now, apparently, and her daughter and her daughter's daughter
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But it can't be a great life, but like I said for her, I suppose it was better than what she had.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: An interestingly enough, Maxine Carr remains only one of four released UK prisoners.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Whose identity is protected by a lifelong anonymity court order.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And that's alongside Robert Thompson and John Venables who abducted Torchard and murdered toddler James Bulger in 1993 Liverpool.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: as well as the 11-year-old Mary Bell who brutally murdered two pre-schoolers.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Now Maxine Carras since got married a big expense of swanky wedding that was paid for, by Tax Pay as Dollars.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Probably a nice as Shindig then the most of us could afford.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And she now not only has a child but she has a grandchild, who are both protected under that same anonymity court order.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: So it's pretty disgusting that Maxine Carr was able to do what those two young girls will never be able to do live a full life, having kids and grandkids, something that the parents of those girls will never get to experience.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: So there you have it.
• 8:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: Dems are the facts, Jack.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: He's, uh, let's, uh, you can't help.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm, I'm of two minds here.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Serves out his prison sentence and, you know, maybe he's be semi-retarded or something because this, uh, is apparently they fumble split his head and thugh.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how, but it sounds very dramatic.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how it still be alive, but...
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  [SPEAKER_05]: They say he's only got a 5% chance of survival and I think that'd even be better form that if he survives and he's kind of semi-retarded.
• 9:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then when you're in that sort of position, meaning a maximum security present full of these fucking nonsense and freaks and whatever, I'm surprised for me at least it's not if you get attacked, it's when you get attacked.
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean unless you lock these people up 24 hours a day, I don't know how.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: You can protect them from being served up at the end of a shank.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: Because I thought, you know, some older got them sooner than not doing a good enough job.
• 9:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, come on, guys.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: You're letting down the team.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: This guy's been inside since 2002.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: It's 2006 now.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And that's the first crack you had at him.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you're just not doing good enough.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Anyhow, let's get back to that scumbag in Hundley.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he may die while I'm making this podcast and I'd hate that to happen.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Now prison officials have since said they don't know how someone managed to get the in-huntly.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: They say they don't know why Huntly was attacked in prison, but we all know, so we don't even have to go there.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But what Huntly's arrest and the murder of these two young girls spotlighted was the systemic failure to screen people that you hire because they hired this guy as a caretaker to the school, and he had
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  [SPEAKER_05]: already been accused of attacking a 12-year-old girl and he'd had a string of relationships with underage girls and he had previous charges against him and they still hired this guy like how the fuck did this guy get a job at a school?
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And these teachers are all coming forward now, saying, you know, they saw it all the time, the different relationship with underage girls and whatnot.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But are were they then?
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Why did they only come out after Ian only was caught and put behind bars?
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And yet, you know, this was their vetting system.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And how many times have you heard that, you know?
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  [SPEAKER_05]: How many times have you heard that?
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  [SPEAKER_05]: They'll fucking check your references, fucking a hundred times.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: If they're a real estate agent, and you want to rent a one bedroom apartment.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But when you're working with children, ah, geez, just give it to them.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Fucking world leads me to the spare.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Lead me to the spare when you just hear stories like that that this guy had.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: He was already in Nons and they hired him.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: A little more care and effort could have saved those girls.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Now on August 17th, two and a half weeks after the girls had been missing.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Around 12 o'clock in the afternoon, A 48-year-old games keep a name to cleath prior.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Discovered bodies both the girls lying side-by-side in a five-foot deep irrigation ditch.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Close to a pleasant pen.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Which I have to be honest, I have no idea what that is.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: near an RAF base in Suffolk.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: About 10 miles away from Soem.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Prior I had noticed something that he described as an unpleasant odor.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And when he investigated heat, he'd found the ghosts and they wouldn't think.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Or at least they appeared to be because the bodies were heavily charred, and he yelled back to his girlfriend to not come in closer.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Now the games keep a report of his findings to the police, and the girls have been missing 13 days by then, and they could never really tell for sure if the girls were sexually abused, because the bodies said the Hunley burnt them.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Now he said it wasn't a sexually motivated crime, but one could say there's no smoke without fire, but according to later admissions from Ian Hombley, Holly had accidentally died in his bathtub.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't have an explanation why she was in his fucking bath, but he claimed she died accidentally in his bath, and he killed Jessica.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And it certainly tried to silence her screams.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Although he did admit conspiring to pervert the course of justice, which, uh, I guess that's what they're called trying to burn the bar.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, burning the bodies, prosecutors believe although they couldn't prove it, that Hanley had had sex with at least one of the girls.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And possibly the other girl had walked in, or whatever, you know, he'd take in the girl into the bath, who knows?
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But they figured he had sex with the girls, and I think that's a pretty good guess.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And he lured these girls back to his apartment for that purpose, you know.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: There was a bachelor for the weekend, he had the place to himself, his girlfriend was but 13 miles away getting fucked somewhere else.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And so definitely lust, that is a lust motivated crime.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: The basis to coin, there is lust.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Now, according to Maxine Car once she got into the police interview room, she said that she didn't know how long he had had anything to do with the girls.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: She didn't believe there'd been any contact she certainly didn't know that he had fucked them or attempted the fuck him and killed him.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Like she didn't know any of that.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And since he ain't squawking any burnt the evidence, I guess none of us will ever know what happened.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But she said she was just protecting on because, you know, that's a boyfriend and that's what girlfriends do.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And because he was worried they'd pin it on him because he had a history.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Like another age girls and whatnot, so she was just protecting him.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: That was her thing.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: So I mean, who are you going to believe?
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, who are you gonna believe in this sort of thing?
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I tend to sort of believe her.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: She's a woman and woman, 10th her, especially in abuse of controlling relationship.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, if she loved this guy, which I mean, sounds like she was fucking around.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: So I don't know how much she loved them.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: That she was just taking out for a woman.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Do 10 to do that.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And in some aspects, I do feel we come down to heavy on women like this.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, Maxine Caw certainly isn't Carla Homoka.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, she wasn't sitting there holding the bottle and moist your eyes.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But either way, he's fighting for his life, and it's funny because the man who has been identified as trying to kill him is a 43-year-old named Anthony Russell, who was jailed for life in 2022 for rape and three murders.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: So real, small guys, well, which is weird, prison justice, like, you know, okay, so I guess a nonsense is sort of more hated than a rapist, I mean,
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Apparently this guy yelled, I've done it!
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I've done it!
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Which I yell every morning after I come out of the bathroom.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But, yeah, apparently.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: This guy used acting like he hit a big on Bengo.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I have to split Nop and homies had.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Which, according to prison authorities, this isn't an easy thing to do.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Because, well, I have to protect the people that are serving the time in there.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: and they have a lot of safety measures in place.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But I mean, I guess if someone's got to talk it on their back and someone wants to get to them then they're going to get to them no matter what.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Now apparently, Huntley was knocked unconscious.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: This has been leaked.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: There's been no official announcement.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And then this Joker drove the metal spike into his head.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And they started screaming, I've done it!
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And I've done it!
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And I guess there's no argument with that.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: So, I mean, I guess it couldn't happen to a nice person, really, you know?
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Because I mean, apparently the guy did it, he asked the prison offices, is he dead?
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I hope so.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And like I said, I mean,
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, show you's in the Taurus kid killer, but you're a rapist, and you kill three people as well.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Good prison justice.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And prison authorities say it's very difficult because of security cameras and all the regulations rules have in place to kill someone and prison like a non-so-whatever, but I was only last year that former lost profits frontmen in Watkins died after being attacked at HMP Wakefield where he was serving a 29-year sentence for a child's sexual offense, which was a terrible, terrible thing.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's obviously not that not that hard if they want to get you they'll they'll get you, but Be interesting to know like I said what crimes are okay and what what crimes can get you Shank them prison I mean obviously a child sexual offenses will be probably top of the list.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm guessing
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  [SPEAKER_05]: but I don't know, rapists, don't make you much better.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: In my opinion, anyways, I mean for me, all sex crimes are just terrible.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: But anyhow, that's all for this episode again to know that that, but all I gotta say.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: And until then, this is that bug saying, Adios.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: There's a change in me I don't mind I don't mind It's not dependent on whether Life will also feel
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  [SPEAKER_04]: There's doubts in time There's a shift in the landscape
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Right in front of me I don't care I don't care There's a rift in the soundscape And it's time
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Take the light on, I'm charming home Turn the light off, I'm plugged the phone Turn the bed back tonight, we won't be alone
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Turn your alarm off, I'm plugged the phone, set the clock back, I'm coming home But there's a strange sort of feeling Come and over me
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's deep inside This new revelation As far as I can see