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Episode 90 Summerslam 2025 Night 1 Review · Podcast Championship Wrestling

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Wwe hit me up like Drew Ski. We need you,
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: I said, say less because this is not just another weekend.
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: This is the first two nights Summer Slam and Medlife Stadium.
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  Speaker 2: Baby, you can feel it in the air.
• 0:18
  Speaker 3: Something's going down and.
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  Speaker 2: You know what that means.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: This is right here, this is where the magic happens,
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: where bodies fly, they else get raised and means get made.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: I'm talking clips that hijack your feed type moment, group chat,
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: rewind the clip twenty times type moment. Every Summer Slam,
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: somebody does something so wild, so unexpected, I'm so legendary,
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  Speaker 1: the world gotta stop and say, yep, he's him.
• 1:04
  Speaker 4: So who's it gonna be?
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  Speaker 3: The night?
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  Speaker 2: Holy Roman? Real logan could be me. I stay around
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: accent hell, you know what time it is?
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: Because this ain't just about titles of trash talking. It's
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: about moments. The only wage of really for coma feature,
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  Speaker 1: but cook who you think you are by chashing the
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  Speaker 1: mommy moments that give you chills, moments that break down innet,
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  Speaker 1: moments that make you say.
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  Speaker 5: So wherever you're watching from oh my god, what.
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  Speaker 2: Get up?
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  Speaker 1: Lock in the summer sim.
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  Speaker 4: Oh what a beautiful day?
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 2: It is about to go crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Playing games.
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  Speaker 3: You don't come out, and of course we know what
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  Speaker 3: time it is.
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  Speaker 6: Well time, alad, everybody bringing the first stuff, taking that
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  Speaker 6: a new high Sember to.
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  Speaker 5: Six hundred nine doesn't cheats. Hey, you don't give up,
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  Speaker 5: so I don't go.
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  Speaker 1: You need.
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  Speaker 4: So these they shoot because they leave. They look on anything.
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  Speaker 4: Queets who easy filling a glove? But you're filling me
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  Speaker 4: now that Summer.
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  Speaker 7: Sam arget football.
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  Speaker 8: Suck won a moment.
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  Speaker 6: Let's go little time se make one go stuff you
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  Speaker 6: any mind now chase freedom men and me and wingstop
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  Speaker 6: present w tell me ue Summer Slam and you.
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  Speaker 9: Are looking live and met Life Stadium and at Brunting
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  Speaker 9: for New Jersey.
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  Speaker 4: Over fifty thousand w W Manswer.
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  Speaker 9: Expected to night for the thirty eighth annual Summer Slam.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, this is WWE and ECW alumni the Bloom and
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  Speaker 8: you're listening to pc W.
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  Speaker 4: The question is, oh you let.
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  Speaker 2: Me talk to I will give you a show like
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  Speaker 2: you have never recovered seen before, a live because I can't.
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  Speaker 5: What do you guys want to talk about?
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  Speaker 9: And the colored ribs in the world, the black one.
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  Speaker 2: Either of world.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the cha.
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  Speaker 7: What's that you got mad?
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  Speaker 4: Whoa? Why there?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Back?
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  Speaker 8: Oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, turn on volley.
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  Speaker 8: Just welcome back to another episode of pc W podcast
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  Speaker 8: Championship Wrestling. I am your host Wayne also known as
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  Speaker 8: Semi dride Chicken, and we got through eight one of
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  Speaker 8: SummerSlam and we are going to revisit it, but not
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  Speaker 8: alone because uh I can never do these alone. Let
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  Speaker 8: me bring in my co host. Let's get this party starting.
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  Speaker 4: Oh so.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, it might have been take who knows.
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  Speaker 4: Now it's just me. Okay, dang, it's just just me.
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  Speaker 4: It's dang chuck me, okay, dang. This that lot of
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  Speaker 4: long for lack.
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  Speaker 2: Of damn luck d did Hey, it's.
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  Speaker 4: On me now.
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  Speaker 7: I wanna get them all.
• 5:40
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna get them all. Oh you oh you.
• 5:50
  Speaker 8: Welcome back?
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  Speaker 2: Oos yo yo?
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  Speaker 3: What it do?
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  Speaker 10: Pc W crew Main event ray Uso was back again
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  Speaker 10: on your Podcas has.
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  Speaker 8: Man too nice. Summerslimon it felt a little bit like WrestleMania,
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  Speaker 8: didn't it.
• 6:10
  Speaker 10: In a certain way of speaking, you could say that
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  Speaker 10: it had it had its vibe. I don't know if
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  Speaker 10: that will be for the best. I don't know if
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  Speaker 10: it's in the most positive way of speaking.
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  Speaker 2: But yes it did.
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  Speaker 8: Like yeah, uh, it's just it felt just as exhausting
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  Speaker 8: as much to watch. I mean we didn't have well,
• 6:29
  Speaker 8: I mean we didn't have a Hall of Fame to
• 6:31
  Speaker 8: deal with. We didn't have an n x T p
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  Speaker 8: LD to also watch. But uh, nonetheless, WW is exhausting. Uh.
• 6:40
  Speaker 8: With that said, let's bring him out.
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  Speaker 2: You wanted to watch Out, watch Out? Your last warning?
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  Speaker 8: You've been wash this is your last cosson Doyle.
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  Speaker 11: Oh it's me, It's me, It's a deal, whiley caution
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  Speaker 11: is a word that I can't understand.
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  Speaker 12: Uh oh yeah.
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  Speaker 11: So the last couple of times I've been on, I
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  Speaker 11: have forgotten to tell you guys this big announcement.
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  Speaker 3: That I've been sitting on for a while.
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  Speaker 11: And I just want to start to show off by
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  Speaker 11: spitting it out there, letting the world know.
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  Speaker 12: I think you're gonna think.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. I and Peloton, friends, is famous.
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  Speaker 8: Now your what.
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  Speaker 11: Peloton with famous? It means I can see his workouts.
• 8:03
  Speaker 11: He could see mine if he so choose to. I
• 8:06
  Speaker 11: don't know that he has to, but we could. I
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  Speaker 11: could compare and contrast how I did the same course
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  Speaker 11: to the Celtic Warriors.
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  Speaker 3: If I were to choose to do so, I have not.
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  Speaker 11: That's beside the point. Sean just one step away from Chamus.
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  Speaker 10: So does that mean that Seamus is going to have
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  Speaker 10: a new YouTube channel series going soon, Celtic Warriors cycling
• 8:32
  Speaker 10: competing in the as.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the pod.
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  Speaker 8: How did you come across the idea of doing this?
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember it was.
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  Speaker 11: I think I think he put a thing on inst
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  Speaker 11: the face that said, hey, follow me on telephone. So
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  Speaker 11: I did, m okay, cool, but I followed.
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: I follow one person and it's shamous nice.
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: It's just that simple.
• 9:09
  Speaker 8: Yes, sometimes that's all the motivation you need every day.
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  Speaker 3: It's like.
• 9:13
  Speaker 8: Jack's about and you know what, I guess his workout,
• 9:17
  Speaker 8: you know, does work because that man when he came
• 9:19
  Speaker 8: back early, you know, he got we even talked about
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  Speaker 8: he got kind of hassled about how much weight he
• 9:25
  Speaker 8: had on and he was a little thick. But then
• 9:28
  Speaker 8: like Shamus went away for like a few weeks, came
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  Speaker 8: back ripped the ship like you know, so whatever he's doing,
• 9:35
  Speaker 8: it's working.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: I think the story there which they had told him,
• 9:40
  Speaker 11: you know, i'd be ready, you know, whenever and then
• 9:42
  Speaker 11: they called him about two months earlier than They're like, hey.
• 9:46
  Speaker 12: Can you be here Monday. Yeah, yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: You can't blame the guy. It must be.
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  Speaker 11: I mean, it looks be so difficult, uh you know,
• 10:02
  Speaker 11: well to get to look like that, but to maintain
• 10:05
  Speaker 11: that while you're on the road and you're traveling so much,
• 10:08
  Speaker 11: you know, like.
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: You know, it's three in the morning.
• 10:11
  Speaker 11: Sometimes it's hard to find a grilled chicken breast, you know,
• 10:15
  Speaker 11: and it's really easy to find a waffle house.
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very true, very true.
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  Speaker 11: I mean, I just I think I just add to
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  Speaker 11: add the whole lot of layer of difficulties to uh
• 10:29
  Speaker 11: not being a.
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  Speaker 3: Fat slow.
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  Speaker 8: Well with that said, you guys, I got some news
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  Speaker 8: for you. Let's let's play the news bumper, big news,
• 10:40
  Speaker 8: big news.
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  Speaker 7: News team sets for you.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I got news for you, news flash alcohol.
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  Speaker 8: As of this morning, breaking News WW premium live events
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  Speaker 8: are heading to ESPN platforms in the United States starting
• 11:11
  Speaker 8: in twenty twenty six. At points of twenty nine, I'll
• 11:21
  Speaker 8: tell you what, I have not seen one positive response
• 11:25
  Speaker 8: about this.
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  Speaker 10: This isn't like it didn't come out of the mouth
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  Speaker 10: of somebody with WW ESPN or TKO.
• 11:33
  Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, there's just a lot we.
• 11:38
  Speaker 11: Don't know yet, and a lot of like rumors still
• 11:42
  Speaker 11: swirling about this and that. The main one I think
• 11:45
  Speaker 11: is that if you already have a table sucription and
• 11:47
  Speaker 11: you get ESPN apparently you're going to be able to
• 11:51
  Speaker 11: access these paper views without paying the thirty dollars extra month.
• 11:55
  Speaker 11: But nobody's under that's true or not. If it is,
• 12:01
  Speaker 11: I'm in the career, I'm fine. But you know, I
• 12:05
  Speaker 11: guess a lot of a lot of cord cutters on it.
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: It's just still a cluster pluck. Well, you are a
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: five months to get it sorted.
• 12:12
  Speaker 11: So hopefully closer to the turn of the year we'll
• 12:16
  Speaker 11: know a lot.
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  Speaker 8: More, right, I mean, this is just insane somebody like
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  Speaker 8: me who doesn't have Disney plus I don't have Hulu,
• 12:26
  Speaker 8: Like I don't have that stuff because I'm just not interested.
• 12:29
  Speaker 8: You know, there's just nothing on there right now for me.
• 12:31
  Speaker 8: But does that mean, like if I have to eat
• 12:35
  Speaker 8: the ESPN app separately, Like, is that thirty dollars a
• 12:37
  Speaker 8: month just for that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you know what.
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, Like.
• 12:44
  Speaker 11: You gotta have also to the USA you watch Frank,
• 12:47
  Speaker 11: I don't even have access to the c W to watch,
• 12:51
  Speaker 11: and I see you have access to net Sense to
• 12:53
  Speaker 11: watch raw, You're gonna have access to peacock. And then
• 12:56
  Speaker 11: going forward the ESPN saying to watch you know, it's
• 13:01
  Speaker 11: it's I mean in sports are getting in the same way.
• 13:04
  Speaker 11: To watch the NFL, you gotta crowd to Amazon and
• 13:06
  Speaker 11: you have to subscribe to this.
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: And that and you have to you know, right, fucking ridiculous.
• 13:12
  Speaker 8: And I had this issue with with hockey at one point,
• 13:15
  Speaker 8: like I used to love watching the Flyers, like uh,
• 13:19
  Speaker 8: just just talking in general, but it became once streaming
• 13:24
  Speaker 8: apps started happening, it became more and more difficult for
• 13:27
  Speaker 8: me to catch every game because I couldn't just catch
• 13:30
  Speaker 8: it on slink TV or just regular cable. I would
• 13:33
  Speaker 8: have to, you know, certain games, I would have to
• 13:35
  Speaker 8: download it like another app or subscribe to an NHL
• 13:39
  Speaker 8: app or you know, the ESPN app or or something.
• 13:42
  Speaker 8: I could never just get every game in one area,
• 13:45
  Speaker 8: and it pissed me off because it's like, you know,
• 13:47
  Speaker 8: this is like my team and they play like an
• 13:49
  Speaker 8: hour for my fucking house, but yet I can't watch
• 13:52
  Speaker 8: it without subscribing to three different apps, Like uh, you know,
• 13:55
  Speaker 8: and then I stopped. I just stopped watching hockey because
• 13:58
  Speaker 8: it just became too much. Like I just got tired
• 14:02
  Speaker 8: of having to jump through hoops to watch what I like.
• 14:06
  Speaker 8: And to be honest, like they're you know, I might
• 14:09
  Speaker 8: be on that boat with like some most people who
• 14:11
  Speaker 8: are just casual watchers, Like if it you're gonna make
• 14:14
  Speaker 8: it this hard to access your content like this, you know,
• 14:18
  Speaker 8: it's it's gonna cost me this much a month just
• 14:20
  Speaker 8: to watch, you know, a few hours of wrestling, Like,
• 14:22
  Speaker 8: I don't know if it's even worth it. I've already like,
• 14:25
  Speaker 8: you know, put my foot down and like I'm not
• 14:27
  Speaker 8: I'm not downloading a cable app and paying a cable
• 14:30
  Speaker 8: slipscription just to watch back down because you know what
• 14:33
  Speaker 8: I mean, Like I've been.
• 14:35
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I mean, if you get Netflix to
• 14:37
  Speaker 11: watch ras, say, yeah, at least got this whole library
• 14:40
  Speaker 11: of movies and shows, and you know, a S fan deal,
• 14:45
  Speaker 11: if you're not into sports, what the fuck else is
• 14:48
  Speaker 11: there for you?
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: Not much? Yeah, So that's that's.
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  Speaker 11: And I you know, I imagine a lot of WW
• 14:57
  Speaker 11: fans are also fans of actuals sports legitimates boys. But
• 15:01
  Speaker 11: I'm sure it's not a significent sector that aren't, you know,
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  Speaker 11: So I think a lot a lot of people, a lot.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: Of families are gonna have to make some hard choices here.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing.
• 15:14
  Speaker 10: See a lot of fans who are WW fans, yes,
• 15:17
  Speaker 10: are sports fans. But the biggest problem that ESPN has
• 15:21
  Speaker 10: always had for the longest, and it's been the struggle
• 15:23
  Speaker 10: with their ESPN Plus app and stuff like that, is
• 15:27
  Speaker 10: it doesn't always carry the sports people want to see.
• 15:32
  Speaker 10: That's the problem. Like ESPN has tons of content, but
• 15:37
  Speaker 10: you know what, the stuff that people actually want to see,
• 15:41
  Speaker 10: you don't need ESPN Plus for it. It's not like
• 15:44
  Speaker 10: there are games exclusive like for example, ESPN has the
• 15:48
  Speaker 10: NBA contract where they have NBA games on I think
• 15:51
  Speaker 10: Wednesdays and Fridays. That shit is on regular as ESPN.
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  Speaker 10: You don't need ESPN Plus for it. So and there's
• 16:02
  Speaker 10: Monday Night football is on regular ass ESPN.
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  Speaker 2: You don't eat ESPN Plus for it.
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  Speaker 10: All the stuff that people tune into ESPN to watch,
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  Speaker 10: you don't need ESPN Plus for it. And so with
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  Speaker 10: this new streaming service that they're launching at a thirty
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  Speaker 10: dollars price point, what the fuck is going to be
• 16:24
  Speaker 10: up there that you actually have to turn into that
• 16:29
  Speaker 10: that you have to actually go to that streaming service
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  Speaker 10: to get that you cannot get anywhere else. It doesn't
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  Speaker 10: make it like they keep advertising it as you get
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  Speaker 10: access to ESPN's entire library of content. You know where
• 16:43
  Speaker 10: else you get access to ESPN's entire library content. Fucking
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  Speaker 10: Channel twelve, ESPN. It's there, but I want to watch it.
• 16:52
  Speaker 10: I turn it on, and I ain't shelling out an
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  Speaker 10: extra thirty bucks. So yeah, now they're getting wwepl e's okay.
• 16:59
  Speaker 10: That's one thing that this thirty dollars app is going
• 17:03
  Speaker 10: to have to draw people in UFC stuff. I don't
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  Speaker 10: know how well that's worked out. I mean probably for
• 17:09
  Speaker 10: the most die hard of UFC fans. Yes, they may
• 17:14
  Speaker 10: tune in to ESPN Plus and shot out that extra
• 17:18
  Speaker 10: money on top for the for the pay per views
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  Speaker 10: every month, but that's a system that they've been in
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  Speaker 10: pretty much from the jump with UFC, so they're already
• 17:28
  Speaker 10: accustomed to that process of paying for these things every month.
• 17:33
  Speaker 10: And I'm pretty sure most fans don't buy every single
• 17:36
  Speaker 10: UFC pay per view when the person that they want
• 17:40
  Speaker 10: to fight is fighting or a big fight comes up,
• 17:42
  Speaker 10: those they'll buy.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: The rest of them they just skip on.
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  Speaker 10: So with this, So, how's the UFC going to work
• 17:49
  Speaker 10: with this new ESPN platform? Is it going to be
• 17:53
  Speaker 10: just there as part of your thirty dollars subscription or
• 17:56
  Speaker 10: is it your thirty dollars plus something on top for that?
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  Speaker 10: The problem, the thing that they're missing the most in
• 18:03
  Speaker 10: this is the value proposition, and right now, love WWE,
• 18:09
  Speaker 10: but your pls are not worth thirty dollars every fucking month,
• 18:14
  Speaker 10: especially when they've been largely considered to be on the
• 18:17
  Speaker 10: decline this year. They have not been of the same
• 18:20
  Speaker 10: quality into twenty twenty five as they were last year.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean most of the four matches.
• 18:29
  Speaker 10: Right, four to five matches for thirty dollars a month,
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  Speaker 10: and with y'all's commitment to social media, half the shit
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  Speaker 10: is right up online afterwards. Anyway, you know what the
• 18:43
  Speaker 10: returns and stuff that happened here at Summer Slam. That
• 18:46
  Speaker 10: shit was on YouTube by the end of the nights.
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  Speaker 11: You're not going from ten dollars, Yeah, you're not going
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  Speaker 11: from ten dollars to twelve dollars.
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  Speaker 12: Doing from ten dollars to thirty dollars. That's a fucking
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  Speaker 12: big yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a huge jumping.
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  Speaker 10: They are really underestimating that they think and ESPN I
• 19:05
  Speaker 10: think is over I don't think. I don't know that
• 19:08
  Speaker 10: I will say that ESPN is overestimating the value of WWE.
• 19:11
  Speaker 10: But I do think they're overvaluing their own product right
• 19:16
  Speaker 10: and what they have less unless we find out, Well,
• 19:20
  Speaker 10: the product is about to launch this month, so they'll
• 19:23
  Speaker 10: see what the numbers look like between now and the
• 19:26
  Speaker 10: end of the year. As far as who's shelling out
• 19:28
  Speaker 10: thirty bucks for this product, and if the numbers was
• 19:32
  Speaker 10: looking relatively weak, they may have to readjust they may
• 19:37
  Speaker 10: have to adjust their price point, they may have to
• 19:39
  Speaker 10: come up with some tier plans, or who knows, They're
• 19:41
  Speaker 10: gonna have to figure out something. But I don't think
• 19:43
  Speaker 10: this is going to work out in the way that
• 19:45
  Speaker 10: they think it is. And Nick Con is apparently convinced
• 19:49
  Speaker 10: that fans will move from Peacock to ESPN. I just
• 19:53
  Speaker 10: found a statement that he gave earlier. I'm assuming today
• 19:58
  Speaker 10: with this news real, but I'm gonna read his quote
• 20:03
  Speaker 10: from him about well, will ww fans move from Peacock
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  Speaker 10: to ESPN? Nick Con says, quote, well, the subs follow
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  Speaker 10: the product to whatever that new platform is. I think
• 20:15
  Speaker 10: we've demonstrated to Peacock our subs will follow. They certainly
• 20:18
  Speaker 10: all followed from the WWE Network and that expanded that
• 20:22
  Speaker 10: subscribership extensively with Peacock. And there's obviously another product at
• 20:27
  Speaker 10: Peacock to watch, which our fans who subscribe primarily to
• 20:31
  Speaker 10: us were able to sample.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Same will be the case with ESPN.
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  Speaker 10: That statement was from Nick con That statement, I think
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  Speaker 10: is very detached from reality and is willfully ignorant of
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of factors that played into it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: Namely, one, people, when they went from WWE Network to Peacock,
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: a lot of them were going from a nine to
• 20:57
  Speaker 10: ninety nine subscription at ww network to a five dollars
• 21:02
  Speaker 10: subscription at Peacock.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: So they were actually saving money.
• 21:08
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, and then before that, you're showing out
• 21:10
  Speaker 11: forty dollars a month for the pay per view, you know.
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  Speaker 12: Right, they went and then it went down again, right,
• 21:17
  Speaker 12: and then it went.
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  Speaker 10: Through the like, I don't know what type of analytics
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: they're looking at, did they Are they just looking at
• 21:24
  Speaker 10: the numbers? Are they looking at what tier everybody subscribed?
• 21:28
  Speaker 10: That because I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of people
• 21:31
  Speaker 10: who are subscribed to Peacock subscribed at the lowest tier just.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: To get access to the stuff.
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: Not everybody's gonna subscribe is gonna pay for the highest
• 21:42
  Speaker 10: tier just to eliminate commercials or whatever other extra stuff
• 21:45
  Speaker 10: is there.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: They're at the lowest tier.
• 21:48
  Speaker 10: So you're asking those same people who were at a
• 21:50
  Speaker 10: five dollars tier to now suddenly jump to a thirty
• 21:54
  Speaker 10: dollars price point.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: What I mean, there's what I mean.
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: Look, when I went to Peacock, I I was not
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: happy that, you know, the w WW network got you
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: basically sold off. I wasn't happy about that at all
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: because I was content paying ninety ninety nine a month
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: for what content I got on WW, like the app.
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: That was it. I knew I was getting strictly just wrestling,
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: that's it. When I went to Peacock. Okay, like there
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: was some stuff on there, like even now, like I
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: go on I watched like the Ted TV show, I
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: watched Twisted Metals, so like there's a few things on Peacock.
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: I watched Modern Family whatever. But yeah, dude, like for
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: somebody like me who doesn't watch anything but wrestling now, Like,
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: if I don't know when I want to watch, you know,
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: we'll be watching that once a month. That's about it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: Thirty dollars.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: Damn.
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: I can't do it. I just can't. I just can't
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: justify because like all these other streaming apps that we have,
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: like Apple TV, Disney Plus, Hulu, you know, HBO, Max whatever, like,
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: none of them those prices come anywhere close to that,
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: you know, like thirty bucks, and look how much they
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: have to offer the library. And I won't even pay that.
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: I mean, like, I like Disney, Don't get me wrong,
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: I like Disney Plus. But right now, I'm what they
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: call it cherner, Like, you know, when there's something good on,
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: then I'll subscribe for like a month or two binge watch,
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: and I'll get the hell out of there. I don't
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: I don't sign long term contracts. And I know they
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: they hate people like me, that's why they're doing these bundles.
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: But I I don't know, man, Like, I'm not gonna
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: be the only one who's gonna, you know, stand on
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: this and be like, you know what, I I don't
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: think I'm want to keep going. I don't think I'm
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: gonna continue like it's it's ridiculous, like Doyle said, like
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: all the outlets we have to go to to watch
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: wrestling now, I mean, I dream of a day where
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: everything's on one fucking app. I dream of a day,
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: you know. Uh. I also wonder if there was ever
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: talk in at one point in renegotiating Peacock deal or
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: maybe like even you know, another like maybe Netflix or
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: somebody picking them up. But I guess ESPN got the rightfully.
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: So I guess the deal is like what it was,
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: like one point something billion?
• 24:16
  Speaker 10: My guess, Yeah, that's my guess. Is that's how ESPN
• 24:19
  Speaker 10: landed the deal. They threw out the beat work. I
• 24:21
  Speaker 10: believe it. It's a five year deal. I forgot how
• 24:24
  Speaker 10: much it is per year, but I think the total
• 24:26
  Speaker 10: over five years is like one point six billion dollars.
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: Mmmm.
• 24:32
  Speaker 10: I think that's right, over five years. That's how they
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: landed though they shelled out.
• 24:38
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I meant exactly.
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: And you know, ESPN is clearly going all in on
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: sports because they haven't just done this thing with w
• 24:52
  Speaker 10: w E. They also have purchased God, they have a
• 24:56
  Speaker 10: deal going with the NFL right now where they've acquired
• 24:59
  Speaker 10: red Zone and I believe the NFL network as well,
• 25:03
  Speaker 10: in exchange for the NFL.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Getting an ownership stake within ESPN.
• 25:07
  Speaker 10: So, I mean, ESPN has made a lot of big
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: moves within the last couple of months or so in
• 25:14
  Speaker 10: preparation for launching this thirty dollars streaming service. Yeah, they've
• 25:23
  Speaker 10: had the USC thing, but we still don't know how
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: that's the structured under this streaming service.
• 25:27
  Speaker 12: We don't know.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Because you know the relationship.
• 25:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, but they've had the business relationship with
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: just UFC. But we see what that program, what that
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: services looked like. With ESPN Plus, you pay for ESPN
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: Plus and then you pay again to actually watch the
• 25:46
  Speaker 10: pay per news.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: So how is that going?
• 25:48
  Speaker 10: So it's a pay on top of a pay which
• 25:51
  Speaker 10: I imagine only, like I said earlier, only the most
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: die hard of UFC fans I think, are paying that.
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: So now we'll see what it looks like under this
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: new thirty dollars streaming service, is it? Because if I
• 26:04
  Speaker 10: was a UFC fan and y'all want me to show
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: out these thirty bucks, don't fucking pay per views better
• 26:08
  Speaker 10: be included? Yeah, they're not asking me for a goddamn
• 26:11
  Speaker 10: penny on top of them thirty dollars. Well, maybe maybe
• 26:17
  Speaker 10: if you know, if I was to play Devil's advocate
• 26:19
  Speaker 10: a little bit, maybe if they include the UFC pay
• 26:23
  Speaker 10: per views at the thirty dollars price point, and the
• 26:27
  Speaker 10: uh every wwepl E stuff at that price point and
• 26:33
  Speaker 10: maybe some and maybe at that you also get NFL
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: Network and NFL Red Zone, then maybe then you're starting
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: to add some.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Value to this streaming service.
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: Yes, for the real diehard sports fan who's into all
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: of those things, then you're starting.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: To get some value. Proposition, But individual.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: You are, I mean, like everybody is.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: You are right, I'm not I'm saying me specifically. I'm
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: saying you is.
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: In a generic sense, there's the WW I mean w
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: that ESPN is creating some value in their product if
• 27:09
  Speaker 10: there are these number of things, but that, like you
• 27:10
  Speaker 10: said that, assume that everybody who subscribed wants those things, right, obviously.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Don't.
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: Right, They're they're inherently appealing to a very niche audience,
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: and that's sports fans. There are people who like sports,
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: there are people who watch sports, but who out there
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: loves sports enough to shell out thirty dollars a month
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: for what you're offering on your streaming service.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: That's the question.
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: Right now, I can only like, I can only list
• 27:49
  Speaker 10: those four things that they have potentially to offer at
• 27:52
  Speaker 10: that thirty dollars price point, every wwpl LEA, every UFC
• 27:56
  Speaker 10: pay per view, NFL network and NFL read some.
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: But here's something that might leave a bad taste in
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: all your mouths. You know, you could just you know,
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: pay up front, you know, for for a year, if
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: you like, just just pay up front for your ESPN
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: three hundred and sixty bucks. That doesn't sound bad, right,
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: three hundred and sixty bucks a year for a year
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: for ESPN Plus.
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: That's like the third of the price of paying it monthly. Yeah,
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: or bad value? Not a bad value proposition when you
• 28:35
  Speaker 10: look at it that way. But that's something that somebody
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: has three sixty to shell out or.
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: You can you know, they're signing a five year deal, right,
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: ESPN Plus can get up to eighteen hundred dollars from
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: you and that five year deal, that's a rough number
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: eighteen hundred dollars in hole that how much he is
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: paying plus could be making from US ww fans in
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: that five years.
• 29:06
  Speaker 10: Well, look, I don't want to talk about how much
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: money I've been giving Google over the last couple of
• 29:10
  Speaker 10: years between TV.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: I mean it's when you really look at the numbers
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: like that and bigger, you know, bigger pictures kind of disgusting.
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: You know, Like, I don't know how much you guys
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: all spend on your like streaming networks, but like when
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: you and you're sitting there and you add them up
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: and then you add up how much you spend months
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: and the year, it's like holy shit, and you know,
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: it's like we're gonna go back. We're going back to
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: like where we might all have to get cable again.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that cable Cable is never coming back.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: No, it's never.
• 29:48
  Speaker 10: We have long passed that point of no return. It's
• 29:53
  Speaker 10: just it's not coming back. Just from this simple content perspective,
• 29:58
  Speaker 10: and even even if those of us are shelling out
• 30:02
  Speaker 10: maybe more money now than we ever did with cable,
• 30:06
  Speaker 10: we are a getting way more content than cable could
• 30:10
  Speaker 10: ever offer, and we have way more flexibility than cable
• 30:15
  Speaker 10: can ever afford.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: You.
• 30:17
  Speaker 10: Those two things alone, I think at this point most
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: people have made the choice that they justify the potential
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: extra money that some people may be spending or the
• 30:27
  Speaker 10: comparable money to cable that people are spending. I know
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: I have, and I am somebody who definitely is probably
• 30:34
  Speaker 10: spending more money on streaming now than I than I
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: ever did with cable. But at the same time, I
• 30:41
  Speaker 10: am the ones paying for the famili's entertainment. You know,
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: it's not just me that's on my subscriptions. It's me,
• 30:51
  Speaker 10: my mother, my sister, my niece and her kids. So
• 30:54
  Speaker 10: you know, everybody's on mine. You know, if it was
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: just me, I could easily think of probably maybe three
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: or four streaming services that I would have cut, or
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: I would have gone to the route that you're on
• 31:07
  Speaker 10: with Wayne, where you pick them up for a little while,
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: watch what you want to watch, then drop them.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Well, you might not want to say that publicly. They'll
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: put an end to that passwords sharing right quick. If
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: they catch you, they've probably been looking for you.
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: Anyway, we'll get down to like we'll get and we'll
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: just split it between the three of us. You know, again,
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: that's fucking bananas, man. As soon as I saw that,
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: like I just I just read right to the comments,
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: right to the comments section. Just everybody just human just pissed.
• 31:46
  Speaker 11: Yeah, Well, like I said, there's a lot we don't
• 31:49
  Speaker 11: know yet.
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: You know, I'm sure there's some backlash that they that
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: they're going to be dealing with, and they're going to
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: release something, and something's going to change. I agree Doyle
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: when I the fire.
• 32:00
  Speaker 10: Yet now they got five well we got four months
• 32:07
  Speaker 10: to figure out how they're gonna do this. They're gonna
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: gauge obviously, they're gonna gage people's reactions. Whether that has
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: any influence or impact or anything. Obviously it's TBD, but
• 32:18
  Speaker 10: I'm pretty sure they have, you know, been seeing people's
• 32:23
  Speaker 10: reaction onlines and seeing it's been overwhelmingly negative. And then
• 32:29
  Speaker 10: obviously the streaming service is launching well before the WWE
• 32:33
  Speaker 10: content arrives, so they'll have at least three or four
• 32:37
  Speaker 10: months of numbers and analytics to look at to see
• 32:42
  Speaker 10: who's jumping on with this shit, like especially with football season,
• 32:47
  Speaker 10: because right now between now in the end of the year,
• 32:50
  Speaker 10: that's gonna be their main selling point property for the
• 32:53
  Speaker 10: service is whatever is on that streaming service connected with
• 32:58
  Speaker 10: the NFL, which ends this country is still king.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: So if they managed to.
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: If the NFL and whatever they're offering on ESPN through
• 33:11
  Speaker 10: the NFL, through the out the NFL season doesn't bring
• 33:14
  Speaker 10: in strong numbers, they may have to rethink their strategy
• 33:20
  Speaker 10: before WW even comes on on board with their content. Well,
• 33:26
  Speaker 10: like I said, it's four months ago. It's a lot
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: that can change potentially between now and then.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: Sweet all right.
• 33:38
  Speaker 10: All I know is I am prepared to raise the
• 33:41
  Speaker 10: banners in the sales if need be.
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: I thought about that so I was like, man, if
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: they just outpriced me, Like, what would my life be
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: like without wrestling? Like, what the hell would I do
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: with my time? I say, I don't know yet.
• 34:02
  Speaker 10: There was a time where we all sailed the high
• 34:05
  Speaker 10: seas of the internet.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Uh huh, living that pirate life, Yeah, said, I didn't
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: want to be that.
• 34:15
  Speaker 10: Personal more that I wanted to generally support the things
• 34:18
  Speaker 10: that I love.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: But everything has its limit.
• 34:22
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they keep pushing too hard and they keep reaching
• 34:25
  Speaker 10: too deep in people's pockets.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I ain't got no problem going back.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Well, yo ho ho, and a bottle of problem exactly.
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: I remember those days. All right, Man, let's let's get
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: in this PLA Night one Medleefe Stadium, Night one fifty
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: three and sixty one. People. I'll tell you what I
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: think it looked the arena looked pretty cool. I h
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: I definitely got like fruestimated of forty vibes a little,
• 34:57
  Speaker 8: just the way the arena is set up with the
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: being open like that and met Life, so I thought
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: it looked pretty cool. I think they had uh it
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: looked like they had better Titan Tron set up than
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: we did. It looks like there, you know, there's a
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: couple more around the area.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they had a cool stage.
• 35:15
  Speaker 10: Yeah, isn't a well met Life is newer than the Link.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Right, M right?
• 35:26
  Speaker 12: I think so yes, I want to say, because yes,
• 35:31
  Speaker 12: because about it.
• 35:32
  Speaker 10: Think yeah, I might say the Link was built in
• 35:34
  Speaker 10: like nineteen ninety six or ninety seven or something like that, late.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Night later than that. Yeah, it was like the early
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: yachts for the Link.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you might be right in.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: The in the met Life I think was twenty ten.
• 35:52
  Speaker 10: Whereabout so I'm not a part Yeah, yeah, met Life
• 35:56
  Speaker 10: was between two thousand and eight and twenty ten. And yeah,
• 35:59
  Speaker 10: the Link was late nineties, early two thousand something like that.
• 36:02
  Speaker 11: But I mean, speaking of Ntlmania, they had they had
• 36:04
  Speaker 11: significantly more people there for resume, what was it thirty
• 36:09
  Speaker 11: size than they did.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: For Summer Slam. Oh really for what for whatever?
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: That's worse right as valid?
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they had uh around seventy thousand.
• 36:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah, there were definitely significant portions of uh this stadium
• 36:29
  Speaker 10: that were taped off, yes, m m, and not as
• 36:35
  Speaker 10: they did not do as good a job of concealing
• 36:37
  Speaker 10: it as they happened the past.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 36:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Uh, well, Drey, we'll take their ends.
• 36:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we might as well go ahead and jump on
• 36:52
  Speaker 10: into the first match kicking off the show, which was
• 36:56
  Speaker 10: Roman Reigns and Jay Usso facing Bron Broke.
• 37:01
  Speaker 12: Before that, before that, it is Cardi B.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: A native English speaker.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: A native English speaker, Yes, I like, what the.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Hell was she doing there? What was she talking about?
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Who decided to her out?
• 37:19
  Speaker 11: There was a good idea, like did she bring anything
• 37:23
  Speaker 11: at all to the to the weekend?
• 37:26
  Speaker 10: No name, just just a name, just that. And WW
• 37:33
  Speaker 10: really needs to get away from that. They need to
• 37:35
  Speaker 10: get away from having names just for the sake of
• 37:37
  Speaker 10: having a name.
• 37:40
  Speaker 12: Like yeah, I gets the logic of having a name,
• 37:43
  Speaker 12: but why not someone.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: That could contribute in some form or fashion.
• 37:47
  Speaker 12: I don't think Cardi B brought anything whatsoever.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: To the table.
• 37:52
  Speaker 12: Nothing and then we didn't see it really again at all.
• 37:54
  Speaker 13: The host of Somerslam, right, they said, months and months
• 37:57
  Speaker 13: Cardi beats the house Hardy means the house, and then
• 38:00
  Speaker 13: like two three weeks before that, they didn't say it
• 38:02
  Speaker 13: didn't work about her, and then she just came.
• 38:04
  Speaker 11: Out screamed and yell a little bit, and then that
• 38:07
  Speaker 11: was about it.
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: Yet that.
• 38:13
  Speaker 10: Nothing just and for the sake of having a name.
• 38:16
  Speaker 10: And like I said, they they, I think they really
• 38:18
  Speaker 10: do need to reevaluate some of these celebrities that they
• 38:23
  Speaker 10: bring in because some of them, like you said, are
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: not bringing anything noteworthy to the table. I don't know
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: that Cardi b brought anything to the WWE or any
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: eyes to WWE that weren't already gonna tune in. All
• 38:37
  Speaker 10: we got from her one commercial that air for a
• 38:40
  Speaker 10: few months, a little bit of back and forth on
• 38:43
  Speaker 10: Twitter between her and a few of the wrestlers, and
• 38:46
  Speaker 10: then she shows up Night one, clearly reads from a
• 38:49
  Speaker 10: teller prompter and then leaves and we never see her again.
• 38:55
  Speaker 10: Didn't even show up at all for Night too.
• 38:58
  Speaker 11: Without getting to her head on myself, I have very
• 39:00
  Speaker 11: little good things to say about Roll, but you know
• 39:03
  Speaker 11: what he at least looked like he gave a shit,
• 39:06
  Speaker 11: he was trying the like he I think at least
• 39:12
  Speaker 11: extributed in some form or fast into the program in
• 39:15
  Speaker 11: a way Hi Cardi B did not.
• 39:17
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm sorry Vallid, because he's the type of celebrity
• 39:21
  Speaker 10: that they should be embracing and bringing into their product,
• 39:25
  Speaker 10: people who are genuine fans, who are genuine and genuinely
• 39:28
  Speaker 10: into it. Not every person has to wrestle a match
• 39:31
  Speaker 10: or go as far as he did, but at least
• 39:33
  Speaker 10: people who were genuine wrestling fans and understand the crowd,
• 39:38
  Speaker 10: the people, the environment, not somebody who's just there just
• 39:42
  Speaker 10: because either WWE is popular now and they want to
• 39:46
  Speaker 10: attach their name to the product and loo and you know,
• 39:49
  Speaker 10: bleach a little bit off of w w a's fame
• 39:51
  Speaker 10: or give the rubbed WWWE or whatever it is. But
• 39:56
  Speaker 10: there are enough fans out there, are enough celebrities out
• 39:59
  Speaker 10: there who are genuine wrestling fans that they could bring
• 40:03
  Speaker 10: in that could mean something. I mean, hell, we just
• 40:06
  Speaker 10: had raw this past Monday in Brooklyn and you had
• 40:12
  Speaker 10: genuine wrestling fans who were there, celebrities. Methan Man was there.
• 40:18
  Speaker 10: He's a he's a genuine wrestling fan. You can look
• 40:21
  Speaker 10: it up. He's been at multiple events in the past.
• 40:25
  Speaker 10: You know, Joe Budden, I'm assuming he was a He's
• 40:27
  Speaker 10: a genuine wrestling fan. People like Metro Booming, like, there
• 40:30
  Speaker 10: are other celebrities you can reach out to and bring
• 40:35
  Speaker 10: in if you want to, you know, tie that you know,
• 40:39
  Speaker 10: WW product with celebrity fame and that and such. You
• 40:45
  Speaker 10: don't have to go reaching out for somebody who probably
• 40:47
  Speaker 10: doesn't give two ships about it, only there because y'all
• 40:50
  Speaker 10: cut them a check.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: You think they have learned from the.
• 40:59
  Speaker 11: Days right when like some of the some of the
• 41:01
  Speaker 11: people came and like were really into it and they
• 41:03
  Speaker 11: were fun, and some of the.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: People couldn't have given less a fuck. Yeah, I knows.
• 41:08
  Speaker 11: We're fucking disassed, and you think they would have, you know,
• 41:13
  Speaker 11: at some point, and like Henny, only get people that
• 41:16
  Speaker 11: are actually gonna connect to this and maybe uh maybe come.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: To some rehearsals and maybe you.
• 41:22
  Speaker 11: Know, it's just somebody was just going to cot there
• 41:24
  Speaker 11: and squawk and screaming.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. Anyway, let's talk about some nestlings.
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: I know how to do this one, this long run
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: Cardivy get it.
• 41:38
  Speaker 10: I mean maybe maybe maybe she misled them. Maybe they're
• 41:43
  Speaker 10: in the initial conversations, maybe she was you know, piped
• 41:47
  Speaker 10: up for maybe she is a wrestling fan or or
• 41:49
  Speaker 10: was at some point, and then as things progressed, maybe
• 41:53
  Speaker 10: they just, I don't know, somehow didn't pan out the
• 41:56
  Speaker 10: way they thought. Who knows. But anyway, back to the
• 42:02
  Speaker 10: actual wrestling first match, Roman Range jay Uso facing bron
• 42:07
  Speaker 10: Breaker and Bronson Reid coming out with Romans Jordan's still
• 42:17
  Speaker 10: yeah the shoe lafalla. Yeah, I'm glad they held on
• 42:20
  Speaker 10: to that, at least for Summer Slam.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I'm glad they continued that.
• 42:27
  Speaker 10: Obviously, the match itself took a while to get going,
• 42:31
  Speaker 10: but once it actually did get going, Yeah, But once
• 42:35
  Speaker 10: it did get going, it was a good match. I think,
• 42:39
  Speaker 10: you know, they were definitely out there brawling, beating the
• 42:43
  Speaker 10: ship out of each other. Again, I think Bronson Reid
• 42:47
  Speaker 10: and bron Breaker, I really think those two could have
• 42:53
  Speaker 10: gone on just by themselves and Paul Hayman and really
• 42:56
  Speaker 10: been a force and a strong team to be reckoned
• 42:59
  Speaker 10: with those two as a faction, both individually.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: And collectively as a team.
• 43:04
  Speaker 10: Because they didn't show any weaknesses and no flaws in
• 43:08
  Speaker 10: this match. Granted they did take the l you know,
• 43:10
  Speaker 10: and I'm glad that Jay was the one to actually
• 43:13
  Speaker 10: get the pen, which she got on what Bronson Reid right, Yeah,
• 43:18
  Speaker 10: he did, Bronton reed. And there were other elements that
• 43:21
  Speaker 10: were interesting, you know, like Roman I think a couple
• 43:23
  Speaker 10: of points in this match taking making the sacrifice for
• 43:27
  Speaker 10: j you know, most notably at the end of the
• 43:30
  Speaker 10: match where he took the spear from bron Breaker. That
• 43:34
  Speaker 10: was an attempt initially meant for Jay and he took it.
• 43:37
  Speaker 10: So is this Roman leaning leaning a little bit more
• 43:40
  Speaker 10: in the babyface department or was he just doing it
• 43:43
  Speaker 10: just for family?
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 43:45
  Speaker 10: But overall, good match, very very good match. Good way
• 43:49
  Speaker 10: to kick off the show. Where you at on this one.
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: Wayne, dude? I agree, great match to kick off the show.
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: I mean I asked, I think maybe it was a
• 43:59
  Speaker 8: little to lengthy. The match was like twenty one minutes. Uh,
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: but you could I guess you could really chalk that
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: all up to entrance theme. I mean, the entrance is
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: just long for all these papers for both nights.
• 44:14
  Speaker 14: It entrances and video packages just filled this fucking this.
• 44:21
  Speaker 14: Uh you know, it was just a filling Uh. I
• 44:26
  Speaker 14: did like how Jay and and Roman the gear kind
• 44:29
  Speaker 14: of matched. You know, they look good with the black
• 44:31
  Speaker 14: and white. I was dying when I heard the shoe
• 44:37
  Speaker 14: lafaala reference.
• 44:40
  Speaker 8: I was I was dying, man, Doyle, you and you
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: and the discord had me crying.
• 44:45
  Speaker 14: Man, just with the shoelafalla.
• 44:51
  Speaker 8: I didn't know that roman rains were like a size
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: fifteen dude, Like I wear a size thirteen, and I
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: thought I had big ass feed. I was like, holy shit, fifteen,
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: things were huge around his neck. Holy crap. So uh yeah,
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: and he also got his zass beat again, and he
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: got this week and he got his shoes taken again.
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: Poor poor Roman. He just can't keep hold of his shoes. Man,
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: He's don't come out and flip flops next week, you know.
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: Uh yeah. I enjoyed this match, of course. You know,
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: I think one of the biggest issues with Jay Usso
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: and his entrances. He comes out, he eats, and he
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: gets kind of gets kind of gassed man before the
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: match starts, and uh, you know, and then during the
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: middle of the match they start yeating again. In the
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: middle of the match, I just come on, man, I'm good.
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: I don't need to be eating during the match. Heke's
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: match going. I get it. Maybe it's set them up
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: for him to do a top rope spot, you know.
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: I I I was really thinking that, you know, Bronson
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: reading bron Breaker would have benefited greatly going over. But
• 46:09
  Speaker 8: then how the rest of the night played out. I
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: kind of was okay with it and understood. I mean,
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: it would have been a big win for them, but
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: to beat like two former world champions clean that would
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: have been that was that would have been tough. But
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: you know, it was a very good match. You know,
• 46:27
  Speaker 8: it shows that you know, bron And and Bronson can
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: you know, you know, dancing the ring with Roman and
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: j two former world champions without seth rons in the picture,
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: and and put on a decent match. So I don't
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: think this feud with these four are done after this week?
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: Uh seen Roman get beat again, his ass beat again.
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: So I don't know where we're going with this?
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Are we are? We?
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: Are we adding another oose?
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 47:00
  Speaker 8: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know where we're going
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: with this, but.
• 47:05
  Speaker 11: Doell well, yeah, this was a fun, fun way to
• 47:10
  Speaker 11: start to show.
• 47:11
  Speaker 12: Drey, you said that man, did this start flow?
• 47:15
  Speaker 11: But that's okay For the first match, I just kind
• 47:20
  Speaker 11: of yeah, I waiting, like you said, I thought the
• 47:23
  Speaker 11: Heels should have gone over here, and it looks like
• 47:26
  Speaker 11: we're right.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: It looks like they wrote there was a little bit
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 47:30
  Speaker 11: They're writing Roman off of TV for a couple of weeks.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: With that, you know what did he take? Two? Three?
• 47:35
  Speaker 11: Tsunamis on raw? So it's saying, well, I put the
• 47:39
  Speaker 11: why put Roman.
• 47:40
  Speaker 12: Over if he's just gonna disappear again?
• 47:42
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I thought that the heels really would have benefited,
• 47:48
  Speaker 11: but you know what do I know?
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it was a fun match. You got to
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: see some things the guys don't usually do.
• 47:56
  Speaker 15: You know.
• 47:56
  Speaker 11: Roman had that big sand over the top rope and
• 48:01
  Speaker 11: kind kind of overshot.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: And nugging. But yeah, I mean all all four of these.
• 48:09
  Speaker 11: Guys are incredibly athletic, so it's cool to see them
• 48:12
  Speaker 11: kind of bouncing around.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Off each other. Yeah.
• 48:17
  Speaker 11: I could have done it at the mid mid match
• 48:20
  Speaker 11: eat session as well, but that's just me.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: I'm a little uh, I'm a little eat it.
• 48:25
  Speaker 11: Out, So we say, uh we Yeah, fun match for sure,
• 48:29
  Speaker 11: A good way to say Saint John's but It is
• 48:33
  Speaker 11: strange seeing Roman during the day.
• 48:35
  Speaker 12: I feel like it's been.
• 48:36
  Speaker 11: A long, long long time since we saw Roman in
• 48:41
  Speaker 11: the sunlight.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: But yeah, good start.
• 48:47
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, granted, I understand, I get watch. Some
• 48:55
  Speaker 10: people think that Bronson Reid and Brown Breakers should have
• 48:58
  Speaker 10: gone over because you know, they're the up and coming guys.
• 49:00
  Speaker 10: They're the ones that need to look strong, but up
• 49:04
  Speaker 10: against people the caliber of Jay and Roman, it makes
• 49:09
  Speaker 10: sense that they took the l and I think they
• 49:11
  Speaker 10: protected Roman and bron Breaker, who were, you know, the
• 49:15
  Speaker 10: probably the two highest profile among the ones in this match.
• 49:20
  Speaker 10: By having Jay get the pin, he looked strong over
• 49:24
  Speaker 10: Bronson Reid, who was the one that could you know,
• 49:28
  Speaker 10: take the pin with little with minimal impact to him.
• 49:32
  Speaker 10: You know, Roman can't take the pin after what just
• 49:34
  Speaker 10: happened to him and getting the shoes snatched. And on
• 49:37
  Speaker 10: the subject of the shoe snatching thing, I hope they
• 49:39
  Speaker 10: don't run with that too hard.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: It was a cool moment when it happened. It got
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: everybody talking.
• 49:46
  Speaker 10: I don't think they needed to do it again on
• 49:48
  Speaker 10: Monday Night Raw and that does that shouldn't become a
• 49:51
  Speaker 10: thing that I don't know if it's gonna work as
• 49:53
  Speaker 10: a thing if they try to turn that into part
• 49:56
  Speaker 10: of Bronson Reed's gimmick, like he beats people glasses and
• 49:59
  Speaker 10: takes their shoes. Maybe it can work a little bit
• 50:02
  Speaker 10: if he does it to everybody, But everybody ain't out
• 50:05
  Speaker 10: there wrestling in shoes. Some people out there in their
• 50:08
  Speaker 10: wrestling boots and gears. He's gonna snatch their ship too.
• 50:13
  Speaker 10: Maybe it can work to an extent, but I think
• 50:16
  Speaker 10: it'll only work if y'all are planning on pushing him
• 50:19
  Speaker 10: up the card.
• 50:22
  Speaker 11: I wonder what would happened if he wrestled Kevin Vanreks,
• 50:24
  Speaker 11: who doesn't wear shoes at all, or riddle or wrestle.
• 50:31
  Speaker 10: But I mean, like, if he's just gonna beat people's asses,
• 50:34
  Speaker 10: take their shoes, and then lose matches, you know it's
• 50:39
  Speaker 10: gonna cancel.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: They're gonna cancel each other out.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: And think it's probably a Roman specific saying.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping so well.
• 50:50
  Speaker 12: I Hammond called them the tribal thief.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, see that's the thing. I don't know.
• 50:57
  Speaker 10: If it's a Roman specific thing, then I think it
• 51:00
  Speaker 10: should stop this what this Monday? He can't just keep
• 51:05
  Speaker 10: stilling Roman shoes all the time. Eventually, that's gonna start
• 51:08
  Speaker 10: to impact Roman, especially.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Right. He can't just keep losing his damn shoes.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: He can't keep rolling.
• 51:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and if they're gonna keep it as part of
• 51:21
  Speaker 10: Bronson Reed's thing, then it needs to be something he
• 51:23
  Speaker 10: does to everybody.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: And I don't know that he can do it to everybody.
• 51:29
  Speaker 10: Everybody in out there in shoes, some people are It's
• 51:31
  Speaker 10: a lot harder trying to take somebody's wrestling boots off
• 51:33
  Speaker 10: than it is Jordan's. If it were up to me,
• 51:38
  Speaker 10: I think this past Monday and Night on Row should
• 51:40
  Speaker 10: be the last time he does it and just leave
• 51:42
  Speaker 10: it there or another way to make the feud interesting.
• 51:52
  Speaker 10: Any other thoughts on this initial match, No, I.
• 51:56
  Speaker 8: Will mention though I don't know if you guys saw
• 51:58
  Speaker 8: in the crowd. We know longer just have a green
• 52:01
  Speaker 8: shirt guy. We also have a yellow shirt guy. Now
• 52:05
  Speaker 8: what Yeah, there was a guy with a yellow smiley
• 52:09
  Speaker 8: face shirt in the front row as well, and then
• 52:12
  Speaker 8: I think it was night two, there was another green
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: shirt guy behind him, so we had two green shirt
• 52:18
  Speaker 8: guys and a yellow shirt guy. What is going on?
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Multi verses tearing apart at the.
• 52:26
  Speaker 8: Scenes, dude, give it like three years, it'll be like
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: just the whole front row will be just smiley face shirts,
• 52:33
  Speaker 8: different colors.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Green Shirt Guy has found his reverse flash.
• 52:39
  Speaker 10: Yeah, apparently those two actually came together. Apparently they know
• 52:49
  Speaker 10: each other and are like friends, and they actually came
• 52:51
  Speaker 10: to the Poe together. I think somebody mentioned it in
• 52:53
  Speaker 10: the discord.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 52:56
  Speaker 10: I think they posted a tweet or something from the
• 52:58
  Speaker 10: yellow Shirt Guy because somebody called out the fact that
• 53:02
  Speaker 10: those two were together, or that the green Shirt Guy
• 53:07
  Speaker 10: was like giving the side out of yellow Shirt Guy,
• 53:09
  Speaker 10: and I think somebody had tweeted that. I think yellow
• 53:11
  Speaker 10: Shirt Guy responded and said, dude, we literally came here together.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: That's funny.
• 53:24
  Speaker 10: So moving on to the next match match too, with
• 53:29
  Speaker 10: Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss facing Judgment Days Raquel Rodriguez
• 53:35
  Speaker 10: and Rock Sanne Perez for the WWE Women's Tag Team Championship,
• 53:42
  Speaker 10: a match that went on for just over thirteen minutes
• 53:47
  Speaker 10: and saw Charlotte the team of Charlotte Flair and Alexa
• 53:50
  Speaker 10: Blizz come out on top to become our new ww
• 53:54
  Speaker 10: Women's Tag Team Champions. And they matched that, albeit predictable,
• 54:02
  Speaker 10: was still decent, good enough and I think got the
• 54:06
  Speaker 10: appropriate amount of time. I don't think it needed to
• 54:10
  Speaker 10: be any longer. I don't think it needed to be
• 54:12
  Speaker 10: any shorter. I think it was good. They went out there,
• 54:15
  Speaker 10: did what they had to do, put on a good match,
• 54:18
  Speaker 10: got to the finish, gave us a little bit of
• 54:21
  Speaker 10: suspense in it with uh was it? I think Alexa
• 54:25
  Speaker 10: had hit Charlotte at one point during the match, and
• 54:28
  Speaker 10: then we thought Charlotte was gonna get her licked back,
• 54:31
  Speaker 10: and then just for Charlotte to take out Raquel, allowing
• 54:36
  Speaker 10: Alexa list to get the pen.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: There's a good match.
• 54:42
  Speaker 10: Nothing really, you know, wow, you know, super memorable about it,
• 54:50
  Speaker 10: other than maybe that finish. But it's a good match
• 54:54
  Speaker 10: and I think the right team won. What he thoughts
• 54:58
  Speaker 10: on this one, Doyle, I liked.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: It a little more than you did. I really am enjoying.
• 55:06
  Speaker 11: Uh, Sarlon and Alecta as one of those like you know,
• 55:10
  Speaker 11: friend of me tag teams, you know, which, of course,
• 55:13
  Speaker 11: it's only a matter of time before somebody turns on somebody,
• 55:15
  Speaker 11: but you know that'll be fun to see whatever it happens.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: Uh, Yeah, I'd like there. They're back and forth kind
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: of interplay. Uh, you know, Alexa accidentally hitting Charlotte and
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: then we'll you know, Charlotte ends up saving or at
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: the end.
• 55:31
  Speaker 12: Uh So, yeah, it was a lot of fun and I.
• 55:33
  Speaker 11: Uh, you know, rock Stan's fucking great. She's you know,
• 55:37
  Speaker 11: a future main eventor probably for the rest of the decade.
• 55:42
  Speaker 12: And I was I didn't like Rockel.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Rockel is doing some of the best work of her career.
• 55:46
  Speaker 11: I think during this run the Judgment Day, I've been
• 55:50
  Speaker 11: hoping for her to get something more interesting to do
• 55:52
  Speaker 11: than she had been.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: For her weird in things she had to had her
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: out for a while.
• 56:00
  Speaker 11: I'm glad she gave up the flexing, the back routine thing.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: That just what I'm working for. But yeah, I've always
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: liked her. I don't know why.
• 56:10
  Speaker 11: I don't know that she does anything staccat really well
• 56:12
  Speaker 11: or anything, but.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: I just something about it I've always liked. So I'm
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: glad to see.
• 56:16
  Speaker 11: Her doing well. I think she's doing the best work
• 56:19
  Speaker 11: of her career. So yeah, I thought it was been
• 56:22
  Speaker 11: a lot of fun. And yeah, of course Charlotte and
• 56:26
  Speaker 11: Alexa winning is the right call, I think, Yeah, who knows,
• 56:31
  Speaker 11: what do you ever go? Ongoing Judgment Day saga will
• 56:35
  Speaker 11: continue and so well, Charlotte and Alexi's uh, you know,
• 56:41
  Speaker 11: will they won't They come to blows with each other
• 56:44
  Speaker 11: kind of relationship.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm excited to see work us.
• 56:49
  Speaker 10: I mean yet, don't don't get me wrong, I like
• 56:52
  Speaker 10: the pairing of Charlotte at Alexa. Like I said in
• 56:55
  Speaker 10: in our preview episode, this is the most likable that
• 56:59
  Speaker 10: I think Charlotte Flair has been in a long time, right,
• 57:05
  Speaker 10: she like between this and some of the more new
• 57:09
  Speaker 10: vulnerability that she's shown in you know, certain interviews and
• 57:13
  Speaker 10: stuff like that that's bound its way online, it's made
• 57:17
  Speaker 10: her a much more likable and a much more relatable person.
• 57:21
  Speaker 10: So yeah, that, Yeah, that, and Lexa Bliss just has
• 57:27
  Speaker 10: personality and charisma for days like effortless. So it makes
• 57:32
  Speaker 10: for an excellent pairing between those two. Although I will
• 57:35
  Speaker 10: say this past Monday on RAW, when they were out
• 57:38
  Speaker 10: in the ring together, it had to cut a promo
• 57:40
  Speaker 10: live in front of the crowd. Did not quite come
• 57:43
  Speaker 10: off as well as some of their backs give me,
• 57:46
  Speaker 10: some of their backstage segments have gone off, you know,
• 57:51
  Speaker 10: but again, they haven't had to cut too many promos
• 57:53
  Speaker 10: in front of everybody together, so maybe that will get
• 57:57
  Speaker 10: better over time as they you know, this dynamic develops further.
• 58:02
  Speaker 10: But that's like a minor nit pick. Either way, I'm
• 58:06
  Speaker 10: still happy with both of them and where they're at
• 58:08
  Speaker 10: with it.
• 58:10
  Speaker 8: What you had on this mash, Wayne, you know what
• 58:14
  Speaker 8: this is like another tag team pairing that you know,
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: it's very odd, but I'm starting to like it, and
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: I think it's getting Charlotte over, you know, with the
• 58:24
  Speaker 8: help of Alexa b Lists, you know, with her popularity.
• 58:29
  Speaker 8: It reminds me a lot of Orton and Matt Riddle.
• 58:34
  Speaker 8: I get a lot of vibes like that, Like this
• 58:36
  Speaker 8: tag team. We don't think it's gonna work together, and
• 58:38
  Speaker 8: then they kind of vibe well and the crowd likes it,
• 58:41
  Speaker 8: and you know, it benefits both of them, and it
• 58:45
  Speaker 8: definitely spices up the the women's tag division. I mean,
• 58:49
  Speaker 8: right now, it's great. You're keeping these two out of
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: the main event and we're gonna help elevate the women's
• 58:55
  Speaker 8: tag titles. I just hope none of them get injured,
• 58:57
  Speaker 8: because you know, that's just the curse with these types. Yeah, dude,
• 59:02
  Speaker 8: like the curse. I'm just I was like, fingers crossed.
• 59:05
  Speaker 8: Nobody gets hurt, you know, these the two really good
• 59:09
  Speaker 8: wrestlers to have these, you know, to be in the
• 59:12
  Speaker 8: hands of I didn't think that it would help Charlotte
• 59:17
  Speaker 8: get over. I mean, she just seemed like naturally an
• 59:20
  Speaker 8: unlikable character, you know, like no matter what, she was
• 59:24
  Speaker 8: just gonna get booed. But it seems more and more
• 59:26
  Speaker 8: she's getting cheered, uh, And I think that's awesome. The
• 59:32
  Speaker 8: I agree, Dre. The false finish at the end was
• 59:34
  Speaker 8: pretty good, you know, because kind of curious if things
• 59:40
  Speaker 8: would have fallen apart if they didn't get the titles,
• 59:42
  Speaker 8: you know, on that night with you know, Alexa and
• 59:48
  Speaker 8: Charlotte accidentally knocking each other out or something like that.
• 59:53
  Speaker 8: You know, I definitely thought for sure. And the way
• 59:56
  Speaker 8: they panned the camera was great work too, making them
• 59:58
  Speaker 8: like Charlotte was gonna big booter or something, and you know,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 8: you couldn't quite make out what she said, and you
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 8: know the fact that she kind of like saved her ass,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 8: you know, and made that pin and we got the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 8: sister Abigail's ended out of all finishers. So I don't
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 8: I don't know where they go from here, who who's
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 8: next on the tag team chopping block, But now we
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 8: know with these tag titles off of Judgment Day. If
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 8: liv comes back anytime soon, I could definitely see an
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 8: issue there, like, you know, where's the tag titles? Oh?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 8: We lost them? Who lost them? Well, technically I didn't
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: get pinned, you know, I don't know, so we're gonna
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 8: get I also feel like there's gonna be some waves,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 8: you know, from that too, So Judgment Day is gonna
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: feel that. But overall, good match.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 10: Yeah, potentially a Swiman Live gives a shit about those
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 10: tag team titles when she comes back, right.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, who knows. When she comes back, this
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: story might be you know, long time. It might be
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: good for her.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 11: Actually, you know, she can come back to a totally
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 11: fresh start.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 13: You know.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 10: And I will say I do like that Alexa Bliss
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 10: has been the one getting the pin or getting the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 10: win for the team in the last couple of matches
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 10: because quite frankly, she's probably got one of the best
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 10: finishers in the women's division with that sister Abigail. And
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 10: it's it's not like the move is particularly particularly devastating
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 10: or anything. I mean, it does, from an impact standpoint,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 10: look pretty tough, but it's more so it's the setup
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 10: it's the fact that she can sit there and be
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 10: smiling or whatever and just look as pree as you
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 10: want to. But the second she gets that move, her
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 10: whole face changes, and I think that's what sells the
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 10: move more than anything.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: She gets that.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 11: Yeah, a lot of finishers, a lot of finishes, you
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 11: can't see the person doing its face well clearly like
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 11: you can with hers.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 10: Right, or they're doing something else like being overly emotional
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 10: about their finish or whatever. Like if it's somebody like
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 10: Cody who's acting like this is the heaviest person he's
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 10: ever lifted up by the back of their neck before
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 10: he hits his crossroads or whatever, you know, stuff like that.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 10: But a finisher that just has a good setup before
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 10: the impact. Been a while since we've had one of those.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 10: And yeah, Alexis got it again without being over the top.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 10: Is just she gets that evil, demonic look on her
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 10: face and then everybody rides to their feet and then.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Boom, she just hits it.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 10: And I think it was pretty dope how they pulled
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 10: how she did it this Monday too, catching who they.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Have to match with Monday.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 10: Damn mm, they didn't have because they didn't have a
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 10: rematch with Rocksanne and rock Yo this past my day.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Who was it that they wrestled.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 10: I don't know either here nor there, but I remember
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 10: she caught the person coming off. Yeah, I just remember
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 10: she caught the person coming off the rope and the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 10: way they said it and the way the shot was,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 10: you know, framed.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: You didn't see Alexa.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 10: You just saw that person hit the rope and as
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 10: soon as they came off the rope, boom, Alexa just
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 10: caught him right in a Sister Abigail. So it's a
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 10: dope finisher. Just wanted to put that out there before
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 10: we talk about this next match, which was totally meaningless.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 8: Let's hear about it. Huh, let's hear about it.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Sammy's Ain versus Carrying Cross a singles match where
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 10: the stipulation was had carrying across one Sammy z Ain
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 10: would have to admit that Cross was right about Sammy,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 10: that Sammy is not a good person. In other words,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 10: if Cross won, Sammy would just have to admit the
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 10: fucking obvious that everybody with a brain should already know.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 10: But if Sammy's Ain won, then Carrying Cross would have
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 10: to admit that he was in fact wrong about Sammy's
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 10: ain and that Sammy's ain is in fact a good person,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 10: which is a bold faced goddamn lie. And much to
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 10: my disappointment, Sammy's ain won this match, leaving carrying Cross
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 10: in the ring looking up with him at him.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: We didn't even get the admission.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 10: Yes, when the match ended, Sammy's a just looked back
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 10: at him and just said we're done.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: I'm done, and look.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, okay, it's like we didn't get the admission there.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: They weren't.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 10: Neither him nor Scarlett were on Raw this as Monday.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 10: Apparently their contracts are set to expire this weekend, according
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 10: to you know, various outlets, and they.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Have not been offered.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean just now, Yeah, they want to think
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 10: right as things stands, as of what we know now,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 10: which yeah, in light of this weekend, we know not
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 10: to trust a gaddamn thing out of WW but as
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 10: things the way things stand now, as we know it,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 10: their contracts are set to inspire this weekend. They have
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 10: not been offered new contracts. We did not get Cross
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 10: or Scarlet on Raw this past Monday. There was no
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 10: acknowledgement that Sammy was right or anything. It, the match happened,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 10: and there's been zero payoff to this storyline. So the
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 10: funck was the point of this ship?
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I mean I couldn't agree with you more.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah, me too. We're all on the same page here.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 8: You know, what was the purpose of this match if
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 8: we didn't even get the payoff? And and then later
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 8: finding out that like all this hard work was kind
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 8: of like I don't know, for this build for carrying Cross.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 8: You know, it seemed like he was slowly getting over
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 8: and he he was beating Sammy's ass every week on
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 8: on Raw. Like you know, he may have lost the battle,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 8: but I think he's the one who won the war
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 8: at the end.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 12: H But.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 8: Now they apparently his contracts up and he's done, like
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 8: just like that, Like I thought. I thought he resigned
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 8: to be honest a while ago when he was having issues,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 8: but I guess that was only for a year or temporary.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: Like the time just flew that quickly, I guess. I mean,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 8: we got the you know, Scarlet would toss across the
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 8: pipe and here's Sammy's ain was able to avoid it
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 8: and hit the Blue Thunderbomb, which, by the way, blue
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 8: Thunderbomb I think should be his finisher. I always thought
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 8: it was such a cool move for him. He just
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 8: never makes a pin with it.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 10: Uh, But you know, I think he's too small for
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 10: that to be his finisher.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 8: I mean I was surprised he got carrying a cross
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 8: blue thunderbomb.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's the thing.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 10: Like the fact that he's even pulling this off on
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 10: people much larger than him is already like, Okay, he's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 10: got some you know, some sleeper power you know, and
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 10: stuff like that. But he doesn' always hit everything clean,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 10: Like what was it the what's the the ship he
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 10: does where he swo plexes him into the into the turnbuckle,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 10: the bucklet bomb.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Like that ship he damned?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 10: Yeah, but that thing right there was a botch, like
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 10: he damned the put cross on his neck and they did.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: They weren't close enough to the turn buckle for it
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: to happen. So he does he does.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 16: Personally, Yeah, I mean that he went to the regular
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 16: finishing sequences, you know, cross was you know, distracted.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 8: You know, and then the halluva kick for the wind.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah. No, I don't know now what Scarlett's fantastic I'll
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 8: tell you that. I guess we can all agree on.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: That too, right, Yeah, she looked good as always.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 8: Great eye candy, hell of an outfit, all those spikes
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 8: and ship then putting your hands on her. But hey,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 8: I really don't have much to say about this fucking match.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 8: You know, we thought we're gonna get uh Cross Sammy's
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 8: ain using the pipe there and and we didn't get that.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 8: We didn't get we didn't get the the apology Cross
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 8: Sammy's ay one Cross had admit that he was wrong
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 8: about him. I feel like he said something after he
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 8: got pinned, you know, but it should have been something
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 8: like kind of similar how to and I quid is like,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 8: you know, give him the mic say it like. We
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 8: didn't even get that.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Nope, nothing, just.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 10: Just Cross laying in the ring looking up at Sammy
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 10: and Sammy walking off.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, what'd you think?
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 11: I mean, in terms of a match, it could have
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 11: gone either way and that would have been intrigued.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 12: And if there was any intrigue to be had.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: It which wasn't. Who gives a ship carried?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 11: As far as the contract thing goes, they were promoting
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 11: his book before.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: The show.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 11: And then they put him on, you know, their second
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 11: biggest show of the year that.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: Sounds me that he has a contract. Uh. I don't
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: think they would do that if they didn't.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 11: But I don't know what the I don't know what
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 11: to play is for trying to create this contract drama
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 11: and whatnot.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: I really don't know where they're going after the show.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 11: Apparently, uh fucking Paul Polly big Nose without in front
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 11: of an audience doing the post show, and the crowd
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 11: is scanning, we want.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 15: Cross, we want Cross, and he goes, oh, you can
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 15: hear him saying this is after night too.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: You canna hear what I'm saying, we want we want Frock.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 11: So I don't know if that was a conscious effort to.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 12: You know, acts like he doesn't hear.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: The fans, or maybe he really didn't hear the fans
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: it was the pots.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 11: I don't know, but I don't think he would have
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 11: been on the show at all if he wasn't signed
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 11: going forward. Uh, maybe the play is to keep him
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 11: out for a couple of weeks and then bring them
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 11: back doing something completely different.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: It's nothing to do with sandwy'sdame, and we just.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 12: Never mentioned that's ever happened.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 11: Uh, and moves Amy onto somebody else in the meantime
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 11: that like, I see.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 12: But he's one of those guys that he's like.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: The idea carrying Cross is great.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 11: I really liked the idea of carrying Cross, but in
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 11: in in practice, it's just something's missing. I don't know
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 11: what it is.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: Because I think his character's cool.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 11: I've often said, like, I think I would have a
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 11: character similar to his character if I was gonna try
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 11: to come up with my own character. But it's just
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 11: I don't know if it's his matchins don't work or
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 11: what uh.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: But something's that.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 15: I mean, he's clearly something that the audience has last onto,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 15: but there needs to be something past that, and I
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 15: just don't know what it is or how I can
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 15: find it.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 10: I think right now, fans are more attached to Carrying
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 10: Cross the professional wrestler than carrying Cross the WWE superstar.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: It's like the idea of Carrie Across.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 10: They really like him him as he exists within the work,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 10: within the industry of professional wrestling, people are attached to.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 10: I think people lashed onto the guy who has something going.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: Even if they doesn't know what it is.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 10: The guy that people want to support, but the corporate
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 10: machine doesn't seem to be backing him even if he's
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 10: starting to get something going on his own, Like he
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 10: think about it, he really he didn't become interesting more
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 10: so because of what he was doing on camera or
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 10: what he was doing backstage. He became interesting and got
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 10: people's attention because of what he was doing online because
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 10: he was more or less quote unquote breaking k fabe
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 10: and venting his genuine frustrations online about the product and
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 10: probably echoing a sentiment that a lot of fans were
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 10: actually feeling. And I think that's where he got that
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 10: started to get that connection with the fans as he
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 10: was relating to them or connecting with them as fans
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 10: of the product, wanting to and not being satisfied or
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 10: happy with what they're being given.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 11: So far with guys, again, real popular on the internet,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 11: but it rarely hems be able to translate to actual.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: Success, you know, like like Matt.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 11: Cardona I think is a great example of that, like
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 11: very similar. You know, God gets himself over the internet,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 11: loves him or whatever, but it's just never, at least
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 11: not in ww A.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: Anyway, because he has Mac Cardona.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: Well that's also true.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 11: Yeah, before that, even the Kennon himself over on the internet.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 11: But you know before when he was what was it
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 11: Zach Ryder, So I mean he's doing that back then,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 11: but he just never never could make it happen on
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 11: the main roster. And I mean he just seems to
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 11: be doing well in the indies.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 10: So he's the king of the indies, right, And like
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 10: I said, carrying Cross, the difference with him is that
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 10: he's doing this while still being part of the w W.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: So he's almost like that I.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 10: Don't know, that insider type thing like that, like if
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 10: the fans were to have somebody quote unquote on the inside,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 10: maybe he represents that, and maybe that's why they've flashed
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 10: onto him because you can't say it's anything that he's
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 10: done on camera, because he ain't done nothing on camera
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 10: enough to really.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Other than other than the interview.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 10: Which I wasn't even part of the ww the post
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 10: that wasn't even the interview he gave after the WrestleMania
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 10: that wasn't on w W.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: It was on somebody else's show.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 12: Yes it was.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 11: It was on somebody else's show that is WWE affiliated,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 11: but it wasn't a WWE production.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: Product, right, It wasn't ww's post show. So right, Yeah,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: it's that. That's why I say I think.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 10: Fans are attached to carrying across the professional wrestler, not
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 10: so much carrying across the ww superstar.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: He's got.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 10: Yes, when Cross comes out on WWE, he's getting the cheers,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 10: but it's because of who he is or what he's
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 10: doing outside of WWE, more so than what he's doing
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 10: on their programming.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 12: So we'll see somewhere.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, the character, the character that we're getting on
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 10: television isn't white matching the person that we're seeing online.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: And we've seen people have gotten over the best.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 10: When the person we see on TV reflects a certain
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 10: measure of who they really are, but just turned up
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 10: to a certain extent, it feels more real, It feels
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 10: more natural carrying a Cross. For all that he's doing,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 10: still feels like he's playing a character on television, albeit
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 10: very you know, well developed, when someone's been doing for
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 10: a while. They's clearly putting us all into But how
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 10: much of this character carrying Cross, the black and white,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 10: the talking people you know backstage you're not really a
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 10: good person, Sam being yeah, yeah, blah blah, how much
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 10: of that is actual?
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Care? Is actual?
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 10: The actual person and how much of that is just
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 10: the character of carrying Cross. I think that's where some
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 10: of the disconnect may still exist.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: But either way, we.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 10: Shall see after this weekend where it all goes. I
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 10: think we talked about him more than longer than the
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 10: actual match itself went on for.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 8: Yeahs, Yes, we did not.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 10: A goddamn thing to say about Sammy's ain. Why because
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 10: Sammy's ain is boring as fuck. The only thing I'll
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 10: say about Sammy's ain is he needs something, because right
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 10: now he is boring.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 11: I mean, I would love to see him turn heel,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 11: but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. I
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 11: would like he's gonna do a baby face run first title.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah I think maybe, Yeah, he would have turned heel here,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 8: you know, using that pipe, but he's better than that.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 11: I guess unless they're ising all this, I will be
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 11: sampion Ton, so I guess as possible.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm sure he'll be on TV next week and
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 10: be like, now that you don't carrying Across, what's next
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 10: for you? It's now it's time for me to work.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 10: It's on me, right on me, and let's carr Across
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 10: distract me for too long. I need to get back
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 10: to doing my thing doing going between my dreams and
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 10: Michaels and.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: I'm coming after the w w Championship seth brows. I'm
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: coming to you shut your dumb mass up, same thing
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: and get stumped and take a l.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: What's happened?
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 10: So moving on from that match to match four of
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 10: the night, Tiffany Stratton facing Jade Cargill for the WWE
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 10: Women's Championship and what was the second shortest match of
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 10: the night.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: And possibly the.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 10: Most surprising finish of the night, Tiffany Stratton fucking won
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 10: retained the title against Jade Cargill. I don't know that
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 10: none of us picked Tiffy to win, did we?
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 8: No?
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 11: And like it wasn't even like it wasn't even like, uh,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 11: you know, Jaye looks you know, looks valiant and defeat
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 11: kind of thing.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 12: It was just like it was a college over.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's my other.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 10: Like the match was only seven minutes, seven minutes and
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 10: five seconds, so it was even shorter than the Sammy's
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 10: Ain and Carrying cross match. And for the majority of
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 10: that match, j Cargill dominated Tiffany Stratton and then all
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 10: that happened was Tiffany Stratton. What I think J Cargill
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 10: missed one move. Tiffany Stratton hit her with something, hit
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 10: the moon salt and.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: Got the pin right. Yeah, that is terrible fucking storytelling.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 12: Match.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's terrible match storytelling.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 10: When you're champion to get the ass whoops and then
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 10: hit two moves and get a pen. It makes Jade
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 10: look like an unworthy title contender, that she can be
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 10: so dominant and then just that two moves she lose.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 10: You know, I know that there's been a lot of
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 10: rumor and talk that WWE have lost faith a bit
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 10: in Tiffany Stretch, I mean not and j Cargill that
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 10: at one point they were comparing her. They were looking
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 10: at her and rear Ripley as being the two faces
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 10: of the women's division moving forward, and now that's no
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 10: longer the case on j Cargill's part, which if true,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 10: then it's a bit disappointing and that doesn't bode well
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 10: for Jade's future prospects. From my perspective, I think Jay
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 10: Cargill has been improving, She's gotten better. Look at her
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 10: matches now compared to what they were when she first
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 10: started with WWE. She looks tangibly better. Are there still
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 10: mistakes here and there? Yes, nowhere near as much as
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 10: they were in the past, nowhere near as obvious in
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 10: the past. In fact, in this match, there was a
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 10: bit of a mistake happened Jade who made the actual
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 10: save on it, and that's when she hit Jaded and
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 10: was going for the pen on Tiffy and realized that
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 10: Tiffany Stratton wasn't close enough to the ropes for that
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 10: for her to put her leging position and Jade people
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 10: interpreted as a botch, but it was really more so
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 10: Jade correcting the mistake by putting Tiffany's leg in position
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 10: to be on the rope.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: You know, to me, that speaks to her learning. M h,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: you know something good.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 11: I just say that was as good as good or
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 11: better than a performance that she's had in w w
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 11: E and in the time she's been there.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 12: It did.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: You know. The only real criticism I would give is that.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 12: I don't think I've said that she was deliberate, Like
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 12: you can see the wheels turning.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: I have to go do this and I have to
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: Then she's gonna go over there, and I went over here.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 11: We're going to do that, And I think she she
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 11: did get a little better with that, but the whole
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 11: match kind of felt very careful or very choreographed, maybe even,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 11: which is fine, especially because even think about it, Tiffany.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: Stratton's green is graph too. Yeah, he's only been doing
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: this for a couple of years.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 11: Also, uh, to kind of a testament to the post
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 11: that they're able to get to such a you know,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 11: high mark inflation in the business so quickly. But you know,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 11: maybe that's the answer for Jade is to kind of
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 11: script her maunces a little more than you would to
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 11: other people, you know, And if that's the constant doing
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 11: business and making je look.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: Good, so be it.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 17: I don't I mean, I'm obviously not performer, but as
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 17: a viewer, I don't have.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: A problem with that if you can kind of see
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: it a tiny bit.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 11: Just because I think if you find it out she
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 11: obviously maybe although Dre you didn't make up a great
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 11: point of hernal information improvagation there was very good, But
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 11: I feel like moments had that for her kind a
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 11: few and far between. Maybe maybe she's getting it out,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 11: Like I said, she I think really he is not
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 11: lack missus the benefit of the house that serrika, you know,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 11: getting to perform with the same person, even you know,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 11: every night in front of an audience, you know, three
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 11: four times a week or whatever.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: I think it really hurts a person like her, really,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 11: It's all good to go do the moves in the
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 11: performance center or whatever, at the total other things, do
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 11: it in front of ten thousand, twenty thousand and fifty
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 11: thousand whatever it is, Uh than it is.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point you just brought up.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 10: And I was gonna touch on that because I believe
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 10: I think it was Rock San Peres and somebody else
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 10: in the women's division WWE said it, uh this week
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 10: or that or recently that.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: I don't remember.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 10: I can't remember exactly what they said word for word,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 10: but basically said something that WWE needs more house shows
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 10: because there are certain wrestlers who need those reps that
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 10: you only get in the house show circuit by working
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 10: these matches in front of crowds without the you know,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 10: television cameras on, and some people who don't don't get
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 10: who would greatly benefit that from that, aren't getting it.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: You can only do so much at the PC. You know,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: you can only do so much.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 10: On raw or an XT and certain stars, once they
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 10: reach a certain point, you're not gonna put them back
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 10: on like you know, Evolve or something like that to
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 10: try to get reps in because that's like a demotion
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 10: and the way everything is covered nowadays, people will pick
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 10: up on that and tear somebody down with it. That's
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 10: where the house shows were beneficial from.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: And somebody like a J. Cargill would probably greatly.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 10: Benefit from being able to work the house show circuit
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 10: because she didn't have that.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: She doesn't have it here in WWE. So where is
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: she getting her reps?
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: How many times did your team?
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 11: Is your team drafted a wide receiver and the kid
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 11: looks great in practice and he catches everything in practice,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 11: and they put him in a game and he can't
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 11: catch a fucking cold right and then and then when
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 11: I've happened, he stops getting you know, he stops getting
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 11: his number calls, so he's not in the game as much, stories,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 11: not getting as much chances to catch her path and
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 11: you know, with lives NFL defenders and friendly soon you know,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 11: two years later he's released because you know, like because
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 11: he doesn't get.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 12: Those reps you know, or or or the guy that
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 12: you know he involved in practice hits.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 11: Home run, home run home when he gets up and
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 11: it strikes I got struck out in the real game,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 11: you know, And I think, like I don't think Jade's
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 11: light that level, but yeah, she needs those repsence she's
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 11: it's never going to get them, and it kind of
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 11: sucks for her.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 10: Right and that's, you know, slowing her development. I believe
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 10: if she if she were able to get those reps ands,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 10: she'd probably be much further along than she already is.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Wayne, Greed top in here. Wayne, we're you at
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: with this?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 8: When I think, yeah, I agree, this is an outcome
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 8: nobody saw coming. Like we we all had penciled in,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 8: like Jade winning Perst storyline, it made sense, like, you know,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 8: we got her this far Queen of the Ring, you
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 8: got her all this way to lose. Like I was
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 8: just so confused. Like don't get me wrong, like I
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 8: I understand, like the the streak Tiffy has for this year,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 8: being undefeated this year in general, the push that they're
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 8: giving her is is Tiffy the one wrestler that Jade's
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 8: gonna have coming up in her career that you just
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 8: you just don't have her number.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 8: Charlotte has had a couple women like that where it's
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 8: just like, no matter every time you face them, you
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 8: just don't have her number.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: And when you.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 8: Finally do beat her, you know, it really means something.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 8: Uh Ria, I think had that with with Charlotte. Just
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 8: couldn't beat Charlotte for the longest time, and you know,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 8: when she finally did it, it meant a lot. And
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 8: it was at WrestleMania, So maybe that's what this is.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 8: Like Jay just never gets over Tippy, you know, and
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 8: one day she does and the I'm sure these two
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 8: will cross paths again. You know, this match was full
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 8: of suicide dives and prettiest moon salts and choke slams
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 8: and power bombs and Falcon arrows. So I mean, very
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 8: well played out, moved for move. Uh you know, I
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 8: I enjoyed it. I think Jade had some awesome ring
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 8: gear like she always does. This one was representing the
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 8: Jamaican flag, I believe she Yeah, she always has good
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 8: cosplay gear, you know, I think one one time she
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 8: did recently she did want to storm which I thought
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 8: was fucking awesome. But yeah, I mean I enjoyed the match,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 8: and they had good seven minutes to go. Uh, you're
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 8: not looking at two. You're not looking at like Jade
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 8: mixing up with a very experienced wrestler, like Doyle said,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 8: somebody who's just as green.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 8: Uh, these two are coming up together. I expect more
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 8: from this feud down the road, Like you know, Uh,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 8: I definitely see this using some trash talking later like
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 8: you just you're one who's just never beaten me, who's
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 8: just never gotten my number. I am a little confused of, like,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 8: where the hell's Jade go? Now? Yes, Naomi still has
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 8: the title. Does brand splits really fucking matter anymore?
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 8: That's where I naturally thought she would have gone. Did
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 8: not think that they would get her all the way
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 8: to Tiffy and then fail. I mean, I thought it
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 8: would have been cool to have Naomi and Jade Cargloss
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 8: champions at the same time and Bianca kind of not
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 8: having the goal and being able to kind of pick
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 8: and choose it who she wants to go after. But
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 8: I guess that's not the fucking case anymore. So everything
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 8: I had idea why is going for Jade after this
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 8: kind of out the window. I kind of don't know
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 8: where she's gonna go from here, you know, I hate
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 8: saying it, but uh, back of the line. You know
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 8: that's normally what happens when you lose these title shots. Uh,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 8: you know, it's back of the line. You gotta you
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 8: gotta start over, you know. Uh, it's kind of fair
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 8: and square. I mean, even though it was a prettiest
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 8: moon soul to roll up, you know. Uh yeah, uh
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 8: that's all I got.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 10: Well, as far as the whole back of the line thing,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 10: it'll be interesting to see how w W really does
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 10: play that after this weekend, given that there are two
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 10: women who should be going to the back of the
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 10: line based upon what happened. We'll see if both of
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 10: them are treated the same, and if both of them
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 10: do in fact get sent to the back of the line.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: And yeah, where does Jade go from here? Who knows?
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 10: Maybe she falls back into the mid card division and
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 10: works her way up. Sure, I mean that's a route
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 10: that could we could go down, and maybe the payoff
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 10: of her becoming champion does come at a later dated
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 10: That's all.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: It's all TBD.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 10: We'll see depends on how they book her from here
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 10: moving forward. That will say a lot about what they
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 10: still think of her and her potential as a future
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 10: main of vendor.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: Her going after the US title is a great idea. Actually,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: is that that's the show she's on?
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Right SmackDown? Yeah?
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, Okay, I think that's I think that's a
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: great idea. Yeah, if you're not gonna, if you're gonna, if.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 11: You're gonna about right of the out of the title
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 11: the world title picture, I think that's a good idea
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 11: for her.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 10: And I mean, Julia is gonna need some you know,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 10: bigger name opponents to face. Whatever she wraps her business
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 10: up with with Zelina Vega, she's gonna need to move
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 10: on to more higher profile names, and Jade Cargill would
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 10: fit that bill. But then they have to make the
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 10: decision does Jay Cargill take another l or does she
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 10: take the title off?
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 12: Hm?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: Hm A lot to juggle mm hmmm yeah. Well, next match.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 10: Match The Door was looking forward to the most all weekend,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 10: Drew McIntyre and Logan Paul facing the team of Randy
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 10: Jordan and the roles of Jelly.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: And seventeen Minute Tag team match that at the very
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: least was entertaining.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 10: And I mean this type of match when you especially
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 10: when you have celebrity involvement who are clearly not actual wrestlers,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 10: the most you can hope for in the match is
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 10: that it's entertaining, that you get good entertainment value, and
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 10: in that regard, I think the match delivered. I do
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 10: think it delivered in the entertainment department. All three of
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 10: those guys worked their butts off to make Jelly Roll
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 10: look as competent as possible, even though he barely ever
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 10: moved outside of that Infinity logo in the middle of
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 10: the ring.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 11: Everybody the world's slowest sidewalk slam or whatever whatever he
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 11: did to Drew it was the slowest I've ever stick.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and honestly not as clean as the one that
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 10: he did on Smackdowns. I mean, he's done a cleaner one,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 10: but he also probably had much more air in his
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 10: lungs at that when he did one on smack Down
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 10: versus trying to do it at the end of a
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 10: match here where he was probably gassed.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: All the hell, and.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 10: Props to him for taking that fucking table spot from
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 10: Logan Paul, even if he did lay up there for
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 10: an ungodly amount of time, and at some point it
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 10: just looked like he was just literally sitting there looking
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 10: at Logan Paul like you're gonna jump me?
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Cole's going he's out cold, obviously.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 11: He just entrusted himself on the table like he was
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 11: obviously not as.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: He shifts position.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 11: A couple I'll call it a couple of those this weekend,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 11: it was just like, what the fuck are you talking about?
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 11: I think in the in the Punk match, he said
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 11: something like, yeah, we said another punk is out, and
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 11: it was like Punk was standing up in the process
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 11: of like obviously he ended anyway.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Sometimes sometimes I guess when you when you're calling
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 10: that you make you're already a little bit ahead of yourself,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 10: and you're already Braine has already sent the message to
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 10: the mouth, and the mouth starts saying it, and then
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 10: something else is happening in the ring.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: It is like, oh shit, Well yeah.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 10: He did have a couple of botches over throughout the
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 10: weekend as far as Michael Cole himself, but this match
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 10: did see Logan Paul Andrew McIntyre win when uh, it
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 10: was Jolly Roll took the pin too, didn't he?
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 8: M Hm, how rare is that the celebrity and takes
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 8: the pin?
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 12: Well you know what, Well, I mean celebrity should time.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 10: Right, And I actually appreciate that from from jelly Roll,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 10: the fact that he was like, no, I'll take the pen,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 10: because you know, even if the whole storyline is me
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 10: standing up to Logan Paul, at the end of the day,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 10: they're right, I'm just a celebrity. I ain't got no
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 10: business being in here, all right, So yeah, I should
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 10: be the one that caught to lose the match.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: So props to him.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 10: Again, Props to him for at least having that understanding
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 10: and not being you know, so full of himself for
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 10: arrogant enough to think that he should not be the
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 10: one to take the pin. Props to him for having
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 10: that level of humility. Hop In Wayne, what do you
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 10: think on this match?
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 12: Who Man?
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 8: Definitely an interesting, Definitely an interesting. Jelly Roll did more
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 8: than I thought he was gonna do. He took a
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 8: lot more uh spots. I was actually pretty damn impressed
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 8: with the the table spot man, like he actually he
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 8: actually went through the table.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 8: I was pretty impressed, Like for for celebrity to take
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 8: as many bumps as he did. Uh, you know. And
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 8: then I think the first half of the match they
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 8: had him basically like away from Morton, uh, taking a
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 8: lot of like you said, didn't lead the Exfinity logo
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 8: very much in the beginning. They kept him grounded right
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 8: in the right in the center.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 8: The fans hated Paul Logan.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 4: Paul.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 8: We got like fuck you Logan chants, which I thought
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 8: was great. You know, everybody played their part pretty well
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 8: for this. You know, we got the holy shit chant
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 8: when when it was justified. Uh, I think it was
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 8: funny when we had all the medical people come out
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 8: and try to have Jelly roll out. Was like six
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 8: people trying to carry him out. He's knowing the whole
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 8: the whole crying thing and you know, or trying to
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 8: make the tag. And there was a point where they
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 8: panned back to Logan Paul and me and listener Dwayne
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 8: were watching and and Logan Paul just makes this this face,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 8: like the face of going like what the fuck's wrong
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 8: with this guy kind of face, And I was just
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 8: I was just fucking dying, you know. And I'm also
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 8: talking about like, uh, when I see. You know, I'm
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 8: at that point now where like when I see you know,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 8: in that ring, like there was only one celebrity there
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 8: and there was three w W superstars in that ring,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 8: like Logan Paul, I see in my eyes now, you know,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 8: as time went by, he's just a WW superstar. I
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 8: don't find him as is this internet dude, this YouTube
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 8: guy anymore. Like I look at him with a little
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 8: bit more respect, you know, more and more every one
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 8: of his matches, uh, the caliber, his matches.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: Who he's going with, you know, and champion for Yeah.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 8: I mean, like he's just there's not many guys who
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 8: can just come into this business and do what they
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 8: do and and pick it all up. And like you know,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 8: Logan Paul just he does. He's he's decent on the mic, right,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 8: I say, he's pretty decent on the mic. I don't
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 8: roll my eyes Whenever Logan Paul gets the mic, he
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 8: gets he he plays his character well and he's naturally
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 8: a fucking heel. So people hate him. It works great
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 8: in his favor in this business. He's athletic, he he
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 8: he has a gimmick he has. I like his music,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 8: I think, uh, you know, the moves that he does
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 8: is pretty damn shocking. Like you always know when Logan
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 8: Paul is in a match, there's something good off of
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 8: a high spot's gonna happen, you know. And and Logan
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 8: and Jelly Roll were willing to put their bodies on
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 8: the line for a holy shit shann and I you know,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 8: I was all for it. It wasn't Orton and Drew
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 8: McIntyre that did that spot. It was you know, a
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 8: singer and a YouTuber, I guess. But like I said,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 8: at the end of the day, I just I don't
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 8: look at him like that. No more like this guy
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 8: is a WW superstar. You know, respect where it's given.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, jelly Roll got huge response. The
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 8: crowd loved him. I mean, even when he was getting
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 8: up from his table spot, you could hear the crowd
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 8: even though he was off camera, just cheering for him.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 8: I also assume this isn't the last time we see
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 8: jelly Roll. I'm sure he'll be he'll be back again.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 12: So but.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 8: Yep, that's all I got.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think Logan has long since earned
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 10: the respect of fans as a wrestler. I think we've
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 10: definitely all gotten to that point.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: But he's still an Internet douchebag.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 18: He's I mean, when they brought him in, I thought
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 18: they thought, you know, all this guy's got in, however
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 18: many million followers, they're gonna love him.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 11: I think they expected him to be this huge babyspace
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 11: and then when he wasn't, it took him a while to.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: Roll with it. I don't know.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 10: I think I think Logan Paul is very self aware.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 10: I think he was very self aware. Yes, he does
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 10: have a he abouly has a massive following on YouTube,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 10: but I think he's very much aware of how polarizing
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 10: he is and how controversial he has been in the past.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 10: So I think at the very least, he was very
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 10: self aware that coming into WWE, people probably were more
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 10: likely to boo him than cheer him. I don't think
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 10: Logan Paul came in thinking these guys are gonna love me,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 10: I know. I think he came in very much aware
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 10: of the fact that chances of our fans were going
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 10: to boo him and to touch, you know, touching back
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 10: on the whole carrying cross thing, this is where Logan
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 10: Paul works, and carrying Cross is not working because Logan
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 10: Paul what he's doing is basically an extension of himself
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 10: turned up, and that's why he works so well as
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 10: a heel, because that's kind of what he's made his
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 10: Internet fame on was being an Internet trolling heel.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: He just brought it to WWE and turned the dial
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: up to ten.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 10: And that's why it works for him, And it seems
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 10: so natural, and he's so damn good at it to
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 10: go with his athleticism and his natural talent to pick up,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 10: you know, the art of wrestling.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: So yeah, for him at all.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 11: Well, I think he just said he looks the part,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 11: you know, so he brings an air of believability that say, uh,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 11: you know, Delli Rowl doesn't.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 12: You know, Delli roll doesn't look like professional rest.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 17: Maybe maybe in the eighties, you know, uh maybe when
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 17: when you know, the paths and Bogers and the earthquakes
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 17: and the tugue boats were roaming.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: The Roman the kars. Uh. But you know, I made no.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 11: Uh secret about the fact that I cannot stand sell
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 11: the roll but credit recreditson he didn't look I mean,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 11: I wasn't expecting luces out there or anything, but I mean,
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 11: he don't.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: I don't think he embarrassed himself, uh.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 12: Which I was.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: I hope I don't.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 12: I don't know how much humility he has to be.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 11: Embarrassed, uh walking around with uh you look like somebody
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 11: drew on your face and you passed out, uh with
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 11: your stuns on at a party.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: Much ability has.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 11: To be embarrassed. But I don't think he embarrassed himself.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 11: The credit where creditors due. He held his own a
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 11: little bit out there. It was a fun, entertaining match.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 11: It kind of about pallet cleanser kind of match. This
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 11: is also the match like the whole weekend, just the
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 11: match of order seems simplest hard to me. And we'll
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 11: talk more about this than we do Night too.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: Uh, just a.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 11: Weapons fatigue and night too. This is kind of like
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 11: pallet cleanser kind of match. I think you stick in
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 11: between a you know, a street fight and a no
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 11: DQ match to kind of break it up a little bit.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 11: I questioned why this match, you know, was on nine
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 11: one and away from all these other car crafts matches
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 11: where I think this would have been a really good
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 11: change of pace kind of match on night two.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: It was about the night one, But it's kind of
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: not a here or there. Yeah, I mean it doesn't
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: match what happened. It was fine, it was fun. This
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: is kind of your your comedy match maybe if you will. Yeah,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: for what it was, it was fine.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 11: I don't think we've seen the laps of jelly roll
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 11: unfortunately or fortunately.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 15: Man.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: I want you to get up into the world title
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: hunt again.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 11: He was doing such fucking great work for so long
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 11: and I think it's time he gets rewarded.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 10: Yep, no disagreement there at all. Any other final thoughts
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 10: on this match before.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: We move on to the main event.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: No, the main event, all.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 10: Right, I'll think that is a no moving on final
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 10: match of the night. Well, main event of the night. Yeah,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 10: see him Punk facing challenging Gunter for the World Heavyweight
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 10: Championship and a match that went on for.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: Quite some time.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 10: Longest match of the night at just over thirty minutes,
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 10: and it was a good match. I don't know that
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 10: this match was enough to save Night one overall. I
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 10: think we kind of talked about it in the discord.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 10: This match this night was pretty dagone, lackluster in terms
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 10: of the overall sense of Night one, But this match,
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 10: along with the opening match with Broman, and Jay and
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 10: Bron and Bronson were clearly the two best matches of
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 10: the night.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: Obviously this match.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 10: I probably give this match the edge as far as
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 10: being the match of the night because it was. It
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 10: was a bangover match, Like they went back and forth.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 10: They were beating the not out of each other. Gunter
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 10: was chopping the dog shit out to see him Punk
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 10: Punk was taking it and giving it just as well.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 10: We even got some blood in this daggone match, which
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 10: in some deserved blood, some warranted blood. For as hard
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 10: as they were going at each other, you know, somebody
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 10: had to get some color at some point, and for
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 10: it to be Gunter kind of a bit of a surprise,
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 10: although apparently there were you know, none or outside of
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 10: the ring reasons for it, but that's neither here nor there.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 10: But then the match yourself. It worked, It helped elevate
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 10: the match. It wasn't gratuitous, it wasn't unnecessary, and.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: Ultimately, when it all came down to it, Seeing Punk
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: one I didn't. I don't think I picked Seeing Punk
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: to win. I think I picked Gunter Retain.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 3: I think did you pick picked Gunter?
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: Two right door?
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: I picked gun Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Wayne did you pick Punk to win?
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 8: I think I picked Punk to win.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: I thought one of us picked Punk to win.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 8: I just felt like this was it, man Like, this
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 8: was it. This was he was gonna get his flowers
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 8: finally from busting his ass for so fucking long and
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 8: you know, coming back to the company and stuff like.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 8: But like at the same time, I I kind of knew,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 8: man Like, I kind of knew what was gonna happen afterwards.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 8: I've been I've been talking about this ever since he
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 8: won the briefcase, you know, like how I've been just
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 8: talking about it since then. Man Like, what how how
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 8: great would it be if he catched it and took
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 8: that from the one person he would you know, I
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 8: want to take that from Not only is he win
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 8: in that world title, he's taking it from the one
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 8: person he probably hates most on that roster.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 10: First storyline, well, I hadn't brought it up yet, but
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 10: he's talking about seth rollins after this match, cashing in
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 10: the money in the bank briefcase on CM Punk and
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 10: taking the title from Punk.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 8: But yeah, oh sorry, uh yeah, I I I had
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 8: Punk one in this because that's what I just thought.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 8: That's I didn't suspect the absolute finish at the end.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 8: But yeah, Punk winning the goal was my Uh, it
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 8: was my prediction. But I don't think any of us
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 8: predicted what would happen after that.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 12: Well actually goes through it.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, on the match first, the.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 11: Match first, this is as good a performance since Punk
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 11: is given us back. I thought, yeah, you know, like
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 11: you said, dry, Uh, I don't. I don't generally have
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 11: a problem with blood. They don't need to see it
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 11: every match, but it makes sense. It makes sense, and
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 11: you know, when the ball league finally gets his nose
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 11: busted and sees his own for the first time, kind
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 11: of talents. Uh, you know, that makes sense. You know,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 11: So I didn't have a problem with it. Maybe his
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 11: injury is legit or not.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 3: TV for a couple of.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 10: Weeks, he does have a legitimate injury that is going
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 10: to require some surgery, but i't so he they I
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 10: think it's something something related to his nose that he's
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 10: getting surgery on, and so he's going.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: To be out rather in orbital.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, that's what they said.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's what they said on raw because well, the
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 10: blood that he's sustained, the injury, he's sustained quote unquote
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 10: the KFA injury.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: He's stained in the match.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 10: Obviously the blood wasn't coming from his nose, it was
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 10: coming from his forehead and face area, so make it
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 10: make sense on television they had to say something orbitable related.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 10: But I think the actual injury is something related to
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 10: his nose that he's gonna have to have surgery on
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 10: that's gonna put him out for a couple of weeks.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 10: And they used this match and that the blood and
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 10: all that as a way to write them off television.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 11: Interesting, Okay, good because I was just gonna say, I
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 11: hope they're not running to get another fake injury angle,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 11: because like, I don't know, I kind of I don't.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 11: You know, we discussed the possibility of Alls catching in,
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 11: but I don't think they of us thought it was
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 11: going to because I think we all.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 3: Believed he was actually injured.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 11: But it's just the problem with this I have is, like,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 11: you know, because we just saw this actually happen with
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 11: Zoe Stark right where the blugging me out, they stopped
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 11: the match.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: They carry her to the back, and then the next
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: time that happens.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 12: Everyone's going, nah, that's you know there there. It's just
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 12: a part of the story, right.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: No one's gonna believe it, uh. I just think it's
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: kind of you know, it's one thing to.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 11: Say that the four horsemen jumped Upsy relative gas station
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 11: and broke his leg.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 3: You know, that's one thing, but you know, shop.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: A match and.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: I just kind of rubbed me the wrong way a
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 3: little bit. Although I must have met I do.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 11: Appreciate the commitment to k feb where he's you know,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 11: running around with the kid on.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 3: His punches and stuff. I know, tell THEE that was
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: pretty good. But you know, I kind of have a
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 3: problem with the fake intory thing, just the way they
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: did it.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 11: I thought we could have done something similar but without
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 11: because I just feel like it's the next time someone
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 11: gets hurt, no one's gonna believe it.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: You know, And I just feel that's kind of a
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: disservice to whoever it is, and there will be someone
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: to get seriously hurt in the ring next time.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a valid point.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 10: And and so the point that you brought up way about,
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 10: you know, storyline perspective, it made sense and we had
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 10: all talked about it for while. Now that you know
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 10: the possibility of Punk winning the title at SummerSlam, Seth
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 10: Rollins cashing.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: In and immediately stealing it from him.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 10: I'm pretty sure I think I may have pitched that
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 10: very that exact scenario at some point earlier this year,
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 10: or one of us in this probably pitched that exact
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 10: scenario as it played out here. Well, not to the
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 10: team because obviously the injury wasn't a factor, but we
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 10: had all kind of predicted. I think a lot of
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 10: people in a lot of fans had predicted the prospect
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 10: of seeing Punk winning the title and Seth Rollins immediately
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 10: cashing in on him and taking it away and ruining
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 10: that moment. That's a scenario that everybody kind of saw
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 10: coming a mile away. And yeah, they may have thrown
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 10: some people off with the the injury. The Seth Rollins injury,
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 10: which was I guess was probably a clear attempt to
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 10: throw people off the trail of the very obvious scenario
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 10: that everybody saw coming a mile away. So when it
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 10: still wound up happening despite the injury, at least for me,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 10: it didn't quite hit the scene because it's like, oh,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 10: Seth Rolins music, kids, Okay, he comes out, He's crutches. Okay,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 10: he's like, I'll cut eye on you.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 10: So he's just making a threat. Oh he's taking the
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 10: knee off.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: So they're doing exactly what I thought they were gonna do.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 10: And that was pretty much my thought process as it
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 10: was playing out, because I'm watching it. I'm watching it,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 10: I'm watching it, I'm watching it. Oh, they're doing anything
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 10: that I said that they were gonna do a long
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 10: time ago. Okay, and Seth Rolins's champion. Yeah, to me,
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 10: it didn't really hit the way it could have had
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 10: they not played up the injury angle or yeah, had
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 10: they gone some different route to try to throw us
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 10: off the trail. You know, maybe if they had just
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 10: kept Seth Robins clean and gave him an actual match
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 10: here at SummerSlam with somebody, and they could have played
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 10: up the injury during the match itself, there would have
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 10: been less time for people to speculate or try to
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 10: see through it. And yeah, props to Seth for doing
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 10: everything he could to commit to it, because, as he said,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 10: once he was in those crutches, he did that for
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 10: the whole month. He talked about how, you know, he
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 10: started to become a little irritable about it. He was
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 10: a little worried about his shoulder getting injured from doing it,
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 10: from walking around with these crutches so much, I think,
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 10: he said, him and Becky went out to dinner with
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 10: biancle bell Are and Montes for one night, and he
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 10: was in the crutches like he was fully committed to it.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 10: So props to him for that. But yeah, they probably
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 10: could have done it in a better way that could
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 10: have maybe elicited a more genuine surprise, right, because yeah,
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 10: for me, it didn't really hit anybody else have any
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 10: thoughts about the cash in or how was that secuted
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 10: or anything?
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 8: Uh yeah, I mean like the match and the cash
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 8: and like, you know, this extremely long match and given reason,
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 8: you know why to get you know, Punk gassed you
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 8: know for the cash in, you know between the the
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 8: Oh my god, dude, like the chest slaps, holy shit,
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 8: I mean, Gunther beat his ass. Oh. Also, I like
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 8: punks gear the Fantastic four it was it was modeled
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 8: after which I thought was pretty cool, good timing, good color,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 8: Grim saying yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, like overall, I
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 8: did like the match. There was multiple times though during
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 8: this match that Gunther and Punk just weren't on the
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 8: same page with a certain move. I mean, they just
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 8: look confused. There was a few times that happened. I
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 8: was like, oh, God, like is it because it's such
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 8: a long drawn out match is the reason why they
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 8: had such an issue trying to remember all these spots or.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know the circuit and you know, before you
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: go in front of the cameras.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 8: Right, you know, after this match, I guess we were
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 8: all thinking the same thing. We're like looking at the time.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 8: The time is the dead giveaway sometimes with these pls
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 8: or or even you know, rawl or SmackDown. When stuff
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 8: like this happens, you're just like, oh, we still got
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 8: some time left, like something's gonna happen, and you know,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 8: me and doing it is just like all right, we're
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 8: happy punks won the title. You know, he's crying. It's emotional,
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 8: like I'm happy and I'm just like in the back
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 8: of my head and like, by no, this is gonna
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 8: be this could be taken away from it. I'm just
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 8: waiting for it, waiting for it, and then out of nowhere.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 8: I love having that Uh yeah, you're just out of it.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 8: Just perfect, man, Just burn it down. The crowd.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 11: What's that speaking of time, Speaking of time, Phil has
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 11: like four or five minutes to get the.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 12: Fuck out of there, and he doesn't since they're like
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 12: a dope.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 3: It waits for a set to come down and his
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 3: brains and take the bounce off the idiot.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, the moment you see him drop the cane drop there,
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 10: he's not injured by yes, don't run away from the fight.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 10: Stand there and either fight them all or get their
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 10: ass kicked.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 8: And the crowd that's why I would have done, you know,
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 8: like screw that.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 11: I'm success though, for successfully handing the briefcase with somebody else,
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 11: because it's always like.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 3: You know, hold and hold it.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 12: He's boom, here you go, bring one, two three.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 11: Apparently beneck sus kids told the kid's teacher that he
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 11: was taking this has been something like that daddy fortiding
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 11: to have a bootoo and they had to go to
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 11: the teacher and be like, okay, you can't tell eh, okay.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 10: Maybe what they could have done to try to alleviate
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 10: that whole you know, time gap between seth revealed and
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 10: him coming down to the ring and punks just standing
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 10: there watching it happen the whole time. Maybe Seth should
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 10: have come to the ring in the crutches and stood
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 10: there in front of Punk, in front of punkins, you know,
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 10: reminding him, Hey, I've got this briefcase. I'll be coming
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 10: for you at some point, YO, talk some shit or whatever.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 10: And then in comes Bron and brought him from behind,
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 10: and they put the beat down on him, you know,
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 10: just whooping his ass after the match, just a little bit,
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 10: not nothing over top, but they start stopping him out
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 10: and then they hold up, they hold up, hold up
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 10: Punk and he's looking at Seth, and that's when Seth
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 10: drops the canes, takes off the brace, takes his shirt off,
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 10: and then hands' briefcase to him, when Punk's already beat
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 10: down and just looking up and like shit, that might
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 10: that that could have been maybe a better way to
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 10: execute it, just thinking off the top of my head.
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 3: Speaking a breaker. He looks pretty banged up there after
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 3: this match. He looked all right by Monday, but when
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: then he came out.
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 11: After Seth one, his leg was all taped up and
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 11: he had a pretty bad limp.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 12: I guess, I don't know.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 10: Monday, I noticed two things. One he clearly had some
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 10: sort of knee brace, underneath his pants. And two, he
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 10: seemed to stay to the rope. Like when Seth was
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 10: in the ring cutting that promo, Bronson re I mean,
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 10: Bronson was pretty much always in the middle of the
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 10: ring or not too far away from Seth. Bron kind
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 10: of stayed a little bit more to the side, like
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 10: closer to the ropes.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 3: Like yeah, I mean he was getting involved physically with people.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 2: Didn't get involved. I'm not saying that.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 10: I'm not saying that he's like, you know, actually injured,
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 10: but it could be one of these things where it
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 10: could be the case of bad timing where he really
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 10: can't afford to go out with the injury right now.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 2: So maybe it's some hurt.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 10: You know, he could be hurt but not injured, and
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 10: he's working through it and just hoping. Yeah, he's just
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 10: working through the pain, hoping it will heal on its own,
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 10: or hoping he can you know, rehab his way to
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 10: getting it better, as opposed to you know, saying, hey,
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 10: I need time off, I need to get away to
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 10: to rehab this or get some sort of surgery or
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 10: have it looked at for possible surgery, because yeah, you
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 10: got admit it, like right now would be a terrible
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 10: time for him to go down boundary.
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm, any of them?
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 8: How's the hell of an ending though to the night one?
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 8: I'll tell you that going through with a busted face.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 8: See uh, you know, seeing Punk winning and losing the
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 8: world title and uh e Cethrol's standing tall?
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 2: You know, I will say, though I'm world heavyweight champion.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 8: Could you could you imagine how tall they would have
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 8: stood it? If Bronson and bron Braker won their first match?
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 3: No?
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 8: Does it even? I guess Uh, I'm going to overshadowed
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 8: all of that and justified it in the end.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they would have looked maybe a little bit more
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 10: dominant if you'd had you know, them standing there next
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 10: to them, knowing that they had defeated Roman and Jay earlier. Sure,
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 10: but then again, if they did that, suppose they had
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 10: done that by going the route of of them winning
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 10: by Broun pinning Roman. Yeah, now you've got the image
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 10: of seth Rawlins, newly crowned world heavyweight champion for the
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 10: second time, standing next to a guy who just got
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 10: a pin over Roman reigns. It'll be a little bit
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 10: of conflict of power dynamics there.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 12: Hm.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 2: So I think I think I think it worked out.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 10: I think I think it worked out fine, especially considering
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 10: that they just you know, whoop Roman's fucking ass on Monday.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 2: Again with no help.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 3: They definitely got the heat fast right.
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 10: They got they got it right back, and I'm surprised
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 10: that there was no Jay involved. It's so it's the
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 10: few now about to be l a Knight see him
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 10: punk and Roman reigns taking on the vision.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 2: That doesn't bode.
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 10: Well for JA because that seems to lead to me
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 10: to believe that they are going to go in fact,
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 10: with the plan of sending him over to SmackDown to
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 10: help out Jimmy and Jacob, which is cool for Jimmy
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 10: and Jacob, but not the best for JA unless they
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 10: really book him as the being the strongest of the
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 10: three and he's the hero that makes that Hee makes
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 10: all the difference.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know, We'll see, We'll see.
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 8: We're going to do week Night number two next week,
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 8: so it gives people listeners a nice amount of time
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 8: to have space, you know, in between two episodes. Also,
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 8: if you guys want to go back and rewatch Night two,
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 8: then we can be more in depth with it. So
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 8: that's all I got though, man for the night one
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 8: trade you want to plug anything?
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 10: Nothing as always Instagram dot com, slash PCW podcast.
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 8: Cool doll.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm just in the discord and if you watch
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 11: again the Facebook page of like it's PCW podcasts grassy
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 11: cool cool.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 8: Uh yeah, I got nothing, but uh, I guess I'll
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 8: play this out here we go burn.
• 2:06:11
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• 2:06:17
  Speaker 8: See you.
• 2:06:21
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• 2:06:28
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• 2:06:29
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• 2:06:32
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• 2:06:35
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• 2:07:01
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