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Greg Maddux on “the Maddux”, 90’s Braves, Tony Gwynn, Prank humor · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: We have Hall of Fame or Greg Maddox with us
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  Speaker 1: right now. We haven't had you on. We've been looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to talking to you. Well, happy to be here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you've heard about us, but we've
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  Speaker 1: been looking forward to talking to you. We've talked to
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  Speaker 1: Glad and we've talked to Smoltz. How he smelted at
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  Speaker 1: golf event. By the way, versus Smoltz when you played with.
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  Speaker 2: Him, it's just like he's pitching. It's like he's starting today.
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  Speaker 2: He's kind of the same person. So yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you always have you know, you always on a little
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  Speaker 2: different level on game day, and that's that's where he's.
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  Speaker 3: At right now. Are you like that too.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm a little more mellow than Smoltzy, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I think I realize I'm here to have fun and
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  Speaker 2: enjoy the guys in the golf trip and.
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  Speaker 3: Smoltzy's trying to win.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of a different you know, it's a different
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  Speaker 2: beast for the both of us. And I think I'm
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  Speaker 2: having more fun than him, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you think.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So we had Pavelski on and he played with
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  Speaker 4: Smolts yesterday. Uh huh, And I said, what's Smoltz trash
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  Speaker 4: talk like? So you ever heard Smoltz trash talk?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, I've heard him talk a little trash for over
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  Speaker 2: the years. Uh you know it's pretty clean. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he's he keeps it clean, and uh uh he's fun
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  Speaker 2: to play with.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously, were like, what was he like on star bas
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  Speaker 5: what was what was Smoltzy like on stardas You just
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  Speaker 5: you mentioned that he was kind of locked in? What
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  Speaker 5: did that look like?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, you're just a little bit more serious,
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  Speaker 2: you know, with your attitude and you look the way
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  Speaker 2: you walk around the clubhouse and all that as opposed
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  Speaker 2: to the four days off and and uh you can
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  Speaker 2: kind of see it on just about every starting pitcher.
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  Speaker 2: Uh there's a couple that, you know, you don't notice
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  Speaker 2: much of a difference, but uh, you know there in
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta when it was Moltzi's turn to pitch, he was
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  Speaker 2: definitely moving a little bit quicker and uh uh not
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  Speaker 2: quite as talkative as.
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  Speaker 3: He normally is. And what about you.
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  Speaker 2: I like to just kind of chill out and get
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  Speaker 2: in a card game and and uh, you know, get
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  Speaker 2: the lineup card, look at the lineup card and kind
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  Speaker 2: of go over my notes and uh, you know, play
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  Speaker 2: a game of Hearts or pluck with the boys.
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  Speaker 3: Did you walk around in your white underwear? You didn't?
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  Speaker 3: You know you're in a tidy whitey guy. You were? Uh,
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  Speaker 3: you were the long underwear, the old man white you know.
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  Speaker 3: Uh I had the.
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  Speaker 2: Half size on maybe. Uh yeah, I guess Hell, the
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  Speaker 2: whole team did I know?
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  Speaker 3: That's true? That's true. That's what we.
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  Speaker 4: Said, Chipper, Because did Schipper wear like nine pairs of
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  Speaker 4: sliding shorts?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Chip, Yeah, Chipper was Yeah, he goes, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to slide and get scabbed up for two months, so
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  Speaker 2: he uh yeah, he was very protected in case he
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  Speaker 2: had to slide.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I've been watching Oh go ahead, crats.
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  Speaker 5: You said you said you would. You would get the
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  Speaker 5: lineup card and you'd take a look at that. It's
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  Speaker 5: way more extensive.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 5: Would you have done the more extensive stuff now or
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  Speaker 5: would that have gotten in the way of what you were?
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  Speaker 5: What you know, what made you better?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean I I did most of my own scouting.
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  Speaker 2: I think the stuff now today is great. I think
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  Speaker 2: I would pull bits and pieces up. But for sure,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'd love to know if aj hits, you
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  Speaker 2: know one twenty on two to one count changeups as
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  Speaker 2: opposed to you know for twenty You know you get
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  Speaker 2: you get stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty valuable.
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  Speaker 2: So uh, I think you would pull out the stuff
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  Speaker 2: that you think you can actually execute and uh use it.
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  Speaker 4: Your advantage wouldn't have helped them. Crouds wouldn't help them
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  Speaker 4: against me at nine for seventeen.
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  Speaker 3: That's sorry about nine seventeen. That's why for this I
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  Speaker 3: I was like, but no walks. You didn't walk at
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  Speaker 3: some point, I figured you would intentionally walked me. Well,
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  Speaker 3: you were hitting eight.
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  Speaker 1: There it is.
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  Speaker 3: There, it is, Yeah, but the picture was behind me
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  Speaker 3: at some point. That's true. But then again, you probably
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  Speaker 3: couldn't have walked because they were throwing it up.
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  Speaker 2: Here and then I have to face the lead off hitter,
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  Speaker 2: know you.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I said he couldn't That's why he didn't
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  Speaker 4: want me, because he couldn't have physically thrown it far
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  Speaker 4: enough outside for me to swing.
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  Speaker 3: That's good.
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  Speaker 1: Are you watching the Braves or any other Do you
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  Speaker 1: watch a lot of ball?
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  Speaker 2: I watched a little bit of the Rangers. You know,
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  Speaker 2: my brother's over there in Texas, and uh, what do
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  Speaker 2: I got.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, he's doing this.
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  Speaker 3: For a reason out here, for to check your heart
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  Speaker 3: rebate and I'm getting the warm fuzzy Yeah, your brother
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  Speaker 3: and everything he comes to money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he asks a lot of the guys about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we uh, we have fun with that at Thanksgiving holidays.
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  Speaker 2: Well we'll do the like the run, you know, he's
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  Speaker 2: got that run, and we'll do the run and we
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  Speaker 2: try to give him running practice I think one holiday
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  Speaker 2: and just so he wouldn't embarrass a family as much.
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  Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, he's good and uh, he's good at
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  Speaker 2: what he does. And you know, I know he's uh
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  Speaker 2: taught me an awful lot about baseball growing up, being
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  Speaker 2: the older brother. And uh, it's always nice to have
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  Speaker 2: that resource, you know, in your back pocket when you
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  Speaker 2: need a little help. Sometimes your brother's a little bit
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  Speaker 2: better than the coaches you got.
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  Speaker 1: So how often do you have conversations about work? Obviously
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  Speaker 1: in the thing, but yeah, what's going on? What's wrong
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  Speaker 1: right now?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 2: We you know, we used to talk a lot when
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  Speaker 2: we were playing together. You know, that was before all
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  Speaker 2: the scouting. And you know, if if his team played,
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  Speaker 2: say the Brewers, and our team was playing the Cubs.
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  Speaker 2: We'd cross and I'd give him the Cub Report and
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  Speaker 2: he'd give me the Brewer Report, and we shared a
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  Speaker 2: lot of information and I think we helped on one
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  Speaker 2: another out tremendously during our careers.
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  Speaker 3: When you look at baseball now, when you see guys
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  Speaker 3: like Schoob go through the Mattocks, is it cool that
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  Speaker 3: there's something called the Matti Yeah, that's kind of cool. Cool.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you like, you know, you're out of the
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  Speaker 2: game for twenty years now, and it gets brought up
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  Speaker 2: because somebody did something good.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I like watching that guy pitch, like
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  Speaker 2: I can just prep sure that guy actually pitches.
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  Speaker 4: He has fun too, Yeah, he talks a little trash, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I see that.
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  Speaker 3: I've always wanted to know this, is it true? Well?
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  Speaker 3: I saw all the documentaris Eddie Peretz.
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  Speaker 4: The reason you had to call the pitches for Eddie
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  Speaker 4: perets because he didn't remember what fingers he put down.
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  Speaker 4: So that's why I know, because Eddie's Eddie. But this
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  Speaker 4: is how I could hit youse. Every time he went
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  Speaker 4: like this, he threw me a change up. So I
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  Speaker 4: was like, oh, change ups.
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  Speaker 3: Coming, probably a fastball.
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  Speaker 2: He probably.
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  Speaker 3: You probably just thought it was a gan. But how
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  Speaker 3: did you get the ball to move so much?
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  Speaker 4: Because you were the originator really of the front of
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  Speaker 4: the front hip sinker.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was very fortunate in high school. I had
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  Speaker 2: a pitching coach that taught me that movement was more
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  Speaker 2: important than velocity, and he kind of changed my arm
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  Speaker 2: mangaled when I was, you know, fifteen, sixteen years old
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  Speaker 2: to create movement, and that was how I learned. I
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  Speaker 2: learned movement was more important than velocity. I learned location
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  Speaker 2: was more important than velocity. And I learned changing speeds
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  Speaker 2: it was more important than velocity. So you know, for me,
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  Speaker 2: it was obviously you want to throw hard, harder the better,
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  Speaker 2: but you know there's things more important than that in
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  Speaker 2: order to get hitters out. And uh, that's the way
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  Speaker 2: I was raised and brought up.
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  Speaker 1: Now, some guys won't get noticed if I understand throw
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  Speaker 1: hard enough. They feel that kids kids will be like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I'm going to get a look because
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  Speaker 1: there's just a barometer where they're like, we don't think
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be able to throw hard enough. Even
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  Speaker 1: though you can do a lot of other things.
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  Speaker 2: I understand. I understand that part of it. But uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in the day I threw hard. I mean
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  Speaker 2: I I came up, I threw hard. I threw hard
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  Speaker 2: enough to get drafted, and uh you know I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was taught your fastball is going to get you drafted,
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  Speaker 2: and if you learn how to pitch, that's how you
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  Speaker 2: make your money.
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  Speaker 4: You could throw ninety five though, right, No, you don't
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  Speaker 4: think how about with today's radar guns, today's radar guns,
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  Speaker 4: I might be a tick or two higher, obviously, but uh.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think you know, when I was throwing hard,
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  Speaker 2: I was you know, ninety one to ninety three when
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  Speaker 2: I was thrown hard, and uh yeah, but when like this, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you get older, you start losing stuff, and then.
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  Speaker 3: The strike zone was we a bit wlighter?
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  Speaker 2: Well I would like to got the high strike they're
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  Speaker 2: getting today, but that would have been nice. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we might have got you know, a couple of inches
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  Speaker 2: off the plate, and you know, I'd like to have
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  Speaker 2: the foot and a half up too, But you know,
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  Speaker 2: it is what it is. You always adapt to whatever
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  Speaker 2: the strikes one is that day, you know how it is.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you. I mean it changes day.
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  Speaker 5: To day, different era, different errors. Always hate on other eras,
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  Speaker 5: whether it's the older guys or the newer guys. Some
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  Speaker 5: people were like, well, Crang Maddox, he wouldn't have survived
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  Speaker 5: with the ABS system that's coming in next year. How
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  Speaker 5: do you think you would have been able to had
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  Speaker 5: success with that or even like you just mentioned, with
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  Speaker 5: the with the zone that's consistent that's called right now.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I'd like to think I could
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  Speaker 2: have adapted to it. I mean, I think if you
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  Speaker 2: look at every generation, all the top players were top
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  Speaker 2: players for a reason. They during their time, they were
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  Speaker 2: able to have a little more success. And uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's just like the pitchers today. I mean, they could
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  Speaker 2: have pitched in our air and then and you know,
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  Speaker 2: twenty years from now, they'll probably saying the same thing
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  Speaker 2: about them.
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  Speaker 3: You would have been fine.
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  Speaker 4: He would have been fine because he just would have
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  Speaker 4: brought the ball back a little bit more. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he started the sinker off the plate like this bar
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  Speaker 4: and it would just and Charlie O'Brien's back there like this,
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  Speaker 4: and he just never moves his globe.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, ball's alf far off this plate. Stright the old time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, hey, the other pitcher got it too. That's
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  Speaker 2: one of the things. You know, I like everyone says Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we got more pitches than anybody. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: when you sit there and you watch our games, if
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  Speaker 2: we're getting a little bit off the plate, well the
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  Speaker 2: other guy was getting it too.
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  Speaker 3: We just threw more there.
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  Speaker 2: So I think, you know, we were able to adapt
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  Speaker 2: to the strike zone a little bit better than most
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  Speaker 2: of the guys we faced. Uh, you know, it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: like the other guy didn't get it too.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: We have spoken to hundreds and hundreds of current and
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  Speaker 1: former players on this show, and I think you still
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  Speaker 1: stand tall as the best prankster you know baseball history.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm not sure where I got that rep at. Really,
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  Speaker 3: you've heard it many times.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you just you must have had at least
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  Speaker 1: you just had a few good ones that that were like,
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  Speaker 1: there's all timers and people just kept talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: I think over the years, guys like do embellish to
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  Speaker 2: be honest with you, you know how that goes. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the older I get, the funnier it was or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, you you.
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  Speaker 4: Are a jokester though, Like, I know you're playing it
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  Speaker 4: down right now, but you are because you put the
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  Speaker 4: glasses on. You know, if someone saw you walking down
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  Speaker 4: the street, have no idea that you were a Hall
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  Speaker 4: of Fame picture with three hundred and fifty wins. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but you're a joke You're a jokester. But uh, I
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  Speaker 4: like to have fun the jokester too, So you must
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  Speaker 4: run in the fans.
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  Speaker 3: He's sick.
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  Speaker 2: He's the sick one of the fans, the sick one one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, everything I learned, he taught me right, and
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  Speaker 2: you still got to going in the game today.
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  Speaker 3: That's true, all.
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  Speaker 4: Right, So we got to ask Tony Gwynn, toughest guy
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  Speaker 4: for you to get out. Four point fifteen, one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and seven plate appearances, zero strikeouts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I struck him out once and the Yump didn't
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  Speaker 2: call it. I thought I got him, and I think
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  Speaker 2: the yump kind of didn't give it to me. But uh,
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  Speaker 2: the best pure hitter obviously. I mean, if if a
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  Speaker 2: single is going to beat you, that's the guy you
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to. But I think obviously Barry was hands
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  Speaker 2: down the best. You know during the time. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Chef had Barry, okay, because I walked him all the time.
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  Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I mean you pretty much had to
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  Speaker 2: pitch to Tony because he hit second. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: Tony Gwinn was cool because he's a guy that you
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  Speaker 2: know how you beat lineups and not hitters. That was
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  Speaker 2: like the first time that you have to learn that
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  Speaker 2: when you face the padres, because uh you know, you
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  Speaker 2: got to find your twenty seven outs and you know
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to be with Tony, so you know,
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  Speaker 2: you better make sure you get the guys out in
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  Speaker 2: front of him and after him, and then you got
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  Speaker 2: a pretty good chance to win.
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  Speaker 3: Is the story about, was it bag? Well?
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  Speaker 4: That that story is? That story is correct about you
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  Speaker 4: gave up a homer to get him later.
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  Speaker 2: It's not that you're trying to give up a homer.
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  Speaker 2: You're trying to throw a pitch that he might be
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  Speaker 2: looking forward to try to keep him there. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I always thought hitters remember success, you know, and if
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  Speaker 2: they have success off you, that's what they're gonna remember,
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  Speaker 2: and that's probably where their eyes are going to be
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  Speaker 2: looking during the game.
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  Speaker 4: That's smart because when I first came up, I had
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  Speaker 4: a backup catcher was a guy named Tom Prince, and
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  Speaker 4: he used to tell me, hey, every once in a while,
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  Speaker 4: if there's two outs, nobody on, you have a really
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  Speaker 4: good hitter. You're right to the stuff to get him out.
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  Speaker 4: You kind of give him a little something m early series,
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  Speaker 4: early in a game, like you said, to get them excited, like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: they are gonna throw me a sinker in where I
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  Speaker 4: crush it.
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  Speaker 3: Every once in a while.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, do with two outs and nobody on,
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  Speaker 4: you have a lead, just so when you need to
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  Speaker 4: go the slider, you haven't used it yet.
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  Speaker 3: And then when I heard that story, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: that's where that came from.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, uh, you remember success. I mean
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  Speaker 2: I remember my first home run that was thirty years ago.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was a hitter middle right. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you don't forget stuff like that. You know, it's like
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  Speaker 2: making a hole in one.
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  Speaker 5: Greg, you were and I'll say this with all due respect,
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  Speaker 5: you were only an All Star eight times. I had
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  Speaker 5: no idea.
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  Speaker 3: That is a.
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  Speaker 5: Crazy number to me. How during those times do you
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: feel like you were slighted a couple of times? I
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: mean we're talking. This is a four time cy Young
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: Award winner and only an eight time All Star.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Uh not really, I mean, uh, pictures had to earn it.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: We weren't voted in by the fans. We got picked
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: and uh, you know, the best you know, six or
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: seven starting pitchers that had the first half were the
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: ones going in. Uh you know, I think, uh, you know,
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think I ever really felt slighted, you know,
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: by by not being selected.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Uh. You know, all Star games are fun. They're exciting
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: to go to.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: But it's also kind of cool to have the three
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: days off as well, and and uh, you know, it
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: is what it is.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: No, I don't feel slight at all. Yeah, you're in
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. You did, okay, Yeah, yeah, we're
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: all spallid Hall of Famer. Three hundred and fifty five
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: wins were.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: To pitch your All Stars back then because they pitched. Yeah,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I know now they don't pitch most of them.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: Another one. Here's another one, here's another one. Yeah.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Well, Greg, thank you so much for time, Thank you,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: good luck out there. I thank you, appreciate it.