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Zach Neto POWERS the Angels to a walk-off win over the Athletics · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: That smile hasn't left your face. You're back. Zach Netto's
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: heroic ninth in ain't home run. Got the eternal optimist
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: Van Sterling ball back in the angels good graces?
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: Is that true?
• 0:24
  Speaker 3: Well, I got me back on your show, Thank you,
• 0:27
  Speaker 3: But no, I mean, look, we got two hits. We
• 0:29
  Speaker 3: struck out ten times. I think Oakland's a better Oakland's right,
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna call him Oakland. Still, they're not Sacramento. It'll
• 0:39
  Speaker 3: take me a long time to call them Las Vegas either. Look,
• 0:43
  Speaker 3: I'm glad we won. I think it's really good and
• 0:47
  Speaker 3: it was exciting. I feel bad for the picture for
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: the A's that's just heartbreaking. Had to rip his heart out.
• 0:55
  Speaker 3: But you know we've got beat. We got to beat
• 0:58
  Speaker 3: last week only giving up you hit. So it happens,
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: and it's baseball.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: JT. Ginn.
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: The picture for the Athletics on Monday night took a
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: no hitter through eight innings and in the ninth inning,
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: Adam Fraser broke it up.
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: Adam Fraser who you refer.
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: To as or what closer? He's our closure, okay, closing
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  Speaker 1: picture now as well. So he broke it up.
• 1:22
  Speaker 3: Zack netto.
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: Then uh powered the team to a win with a
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: walk off home run to center field, where he twirled
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: and he did the you can't see me face, and
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: he waved to the adoring fans in left field with
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: their shirts off that were yelling something, selling the team.
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: Oh they were selling, Oh, shell the team. I saw something.
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: Kurt Suzuka said he didn't know what they were saying,
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: but you seem to be able to make that out.
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: They were saying, sell the team.
• 1:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I'm hard of hearing, but I can
• 1:55
  Speaker 3: figure I heard that loud and.
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: Clear, perfect if we didn't get to earlier. I am
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: Mark Trumbo, former Angel slugger. This is Sterling Ball who
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: is going to be a regular contributor to the show
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: and has been a fan of this team for six decades.
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: And I think what I was hoping if you wouldn't mind, Sterling,
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: we've talked, We talk all the time about this club.
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts?
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: Is there any issue that's on your mind or an
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  Speaker 1: individual that you would like to address with some sort
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  Speaker 1: of a message.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. One of the things that happens is you get
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: in business, and I've spent fifty years in business and
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: you know it spent a lot of time thinking about
• 2:37
  Speaker 3: your legacy. But if you did everything right and you
• 2:41
  Speaker 3: treated people right, and you communicated well, the legacy would
• 2:44
  Speaker 3: take care of itself. So I'm went a little message
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: to mister Moreno. I remember when you bought the team.
• 2:52
  Speaker 3: I remember seeing your wife and your family being so happy.
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  Speaker 3: He said all the right things. You lowered the beer prices.
• 2:58
  Speaker 3: We had pretty much a good ten year run with you.
• 3:02
  Speaker 3: You did well in another business. You came into baseball.
• 3:05
  Speaker 3: I know you're a fan. I know you own part
• 3:08
  Speaker 3: of a minor league team in Salt Lake. And what
• 3:12
  Speaker 3: you did right away sign a bunch of free agents
• 3:14
  Speaker 3: and most of them didn't work out. You've come around
• 3:18
  Speaker 3: all a way where you find out through premiums and
• 3:21
  Speaker 3: the visiting teams that you can be fifth eighth in attendance.
• 3:25
  Speaker 3: But what you don't have is a good legacy. I mean,
• 3:28
  Speaker 3: and I think he got a chance to improve that.
• 3:32
  Speaker 3: How do you do that? You communicate honestly to your
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: communication style has to carry down through your organization. I
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: used to defend Perrymannassy, and I think he is such
• 3:46
  Speaker 3: a disrespectful, condescending It's like he's playing word with the journalists.
• 3:55
  Speaker 3: And then you have a PR department that for a
• 3:59
  Speaker 3: long time I thought was a public relations department, but
• 4:03
  Speaker 3: they spend more time trying to suppress news in stories,
• 4:09
  Speaker 3: and so I finally realized it's a PR company, it's
• 4:12
  Speaker 3: a private relations thing. So Artie, you could start communicating
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: and you could start really doing the things that will
• 4:22
  Speaker 3: be in a long term future for the club even
• 4:24
  Speaker 3: after you're gone. I think most fans want you to
• 4:27
  Speaker 3: rip the band aid off, trade whatever you can do
• 4:31
  Speaker 3: to get a lot of prospects to do, like several
• 4:34
  Speaker 3: successful teams have done. The White Sox are incredibly great
• 4:37
  Speaker 3: example of it. But while you have to do also
• 4:40
  Speaker 3: is build an infrastructure behind that that you took way
• 4:43
  Speaker 3: too long to build. In development player development, I think
• 4:47
  Speaker 3: I read about Colorado State and the art pitching a lab.
• 4:50
  Speaker 3: I read about different people sitting thing. You've got to
• 4:53
  Speaker 3: realize that you've got to grow the team, and then
• 4:55
  Speaker 3: you can supplement it with an occasional free agent signing.
• 4:59
  Speaker 3: But now what you're doing is we're buying a bunch
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: of scratching dent, a bunch of dal old bread and
• 5:05
  Speaker 3: hope that they deliver. Hope you can still do something
• 5:08
  Speaker 3: with them, it's just not going to happen. And also,
• 5:13
  Speaker 3: I think you've got to convince this that your your
• 5:15
  Speaker 3: team's playing to win. And when you guys play low
• 5:18
  Speaker 3: in Moncuta every day and you don't give guys like
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  Speaker 3: Trout a day off or even o'happy who came back
• 5:25
  Speaker 3: from a fractured thumb in five days, that's not really
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  Speaker 3: one to win to me. I mean, you're not playing
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  Speaker 3: your best players and it shows the fans known too.
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: An ongoing discussion. I apologize for cutting you off, baby, Fine,
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: you probably shouldn't. I think that it was excellent, and
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: I think that that's spoken on behalf of yourself. But
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: I think so many that when don't we do our
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: fan questions and when I see the YouTube comments and
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: we see the tweets and everything else, there's despite Monday
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: Nights win, the comments are just not you can tell that.
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: I think they've lost a lot of at least the
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  Speaker 1: casual fans and maybe a lot of the diehard fans too,
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  Speaker 1: are just at the point where rock Bottom. I'm not
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: sure if you said it now, but I know that
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  Speaker 1: that term has been thrown around a lot. They think
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  Speaker 1: that this is about the lowest point this franchise has
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  Speaker 1: ever gotten to.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like I said, last time, I used to
• 6:30
  Speaker 3: see the Cowboy. He came to every game. I think
• 6:32
  Speaker 3: Alreadie might be an absentee owner. Okay, I think he
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: lives in Scottsdale. I'm sure he has a place in
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: southern California. But look, they're not getting it done. It
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  Speaker 3: is rock bottom and it's really hard. But let me
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  Speaker 3: make some point because the PR department, private the private
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  Speaker 3: relations department thinks that maybe we just are miserable people
• 6:53
  Speaker 3: or maybe piring things that I want to love. On
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  Speaker 3: the Angels, there's nothing. I mean, I was in the
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: stands too many times when they were winning. But I've
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  Speaker 3: also I mean, I'm being critical. It's tough love. It's
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  Speaker 3: not being a jerk. It's really saying, okay, stop telling
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  Speaker 3: me things that aren't true or disingenuine. Because my eyes
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  Speaker 3: are pretty experienced watching baseball, I.
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  Speaker 2: Would I can't.
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  Speaker 1: They are your baseball accuse very high, and you have
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: strong opinions, but I tend to agree with with most
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  Speaker 1: of them, not all of them.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about the other things that we agree.
• 7:33
  Speaker 3: Have you ever read What Mark? Have you ever won
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: an argument with me.
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: At least in my mind once or twice in yours.
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you're undefeated. We're going to take a quick
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• 8:51
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• 8:54
  Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, you know, come on, we got postage stadium.
• 8:59
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• 9:02
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• 9:14
  Speaker 1: Are you not wearing what looks like an Angel's giveaway?
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: Is that it an Angels giveaway Hawaiian shirt?
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: Or where did you get that rain spooner one hundred
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: and ten dollars? Oh?
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: Sorry, my bad?
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah all right, yeah you don't so.
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: The trucker had? Is that on your wish list? I'm
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: looking forward. I don't have plans to go, but maybe
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: on the second hand market. It looks it looks pretty cool.
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: It's the talk of the town. Or I don't know
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: what Roger said, but it was something like that. They
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: got a Cacuchi bobblehead coming up. The giveaways are still
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: a very big thing, but I think that they're they're
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: not doing it for you if they ever did.
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, Mark, here's the pro. The one thing that I
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: learned from Roger Lodge is I think that the season's
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: going to start the night they give the Kukuchi bobblehead job.
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: So now this is just advanced spring training because the
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: season's going to start. Oh wait, he said that, He
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: said that a month ago.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: I'm going to show you something the courtesy of Jeff Fletcher.
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: Zach Netto's comments post game Monday night talking about his
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: approach and it's something I've been working on since my
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: slump was over, just trying to use the whole field,
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: just shifting my eyes from that left field bullpen kind
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: of towards the middle of the field. Netto said, what
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: do you think when you see that comment right there
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  Speaker 1: about the approach that zach Netto and maybe the rest
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: of the offense has as a whole.
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  Speaker 3: Well, do you think maybe one of the coaching staff
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: that would say, hey, maybe you can look at center field.
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: I know you said it, but I don't know that
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: Jack listens to the show or watches the show. Look,
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: I gotta make sure you understand that Zach Nettle is
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: my favorite angel has been. I think that that guy
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: was ready for ready for some serious therapy. Was he
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: was really wearing it hard. So I'm glad he thinks
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: he slumps over. It's really it's really important to have
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: Zach Nettle playing well for us, and I'd like the
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: defensive slump to be over because last night he ball
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: bounced off his fingers. He was wasn't looking, and that
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: can happen, but it's happened more times than not with him.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: After some harsh air quotes criticism from Bobby Valentine, Young
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  Speaker 1: Zach said he he actually agreed with what Bobby said.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: He does need to clean some stuff up. I think
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: that some of his comments Monday night, I believe via
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: text or so you said, there were a lot of
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: me comments in there.
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: No, there's a lot of a lot of eyes. And
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: I read another one where he says he's I thought
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: I was reading Reggie Jackson's story that he was the
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: straw that's threw the drink. He says, Ben the spark
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: plug on this team. There's certain things act I'm going
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: to tell you and I've mentored golfers, I've been a
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: guitar players I've met are barbecuers, And those are the
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: things other people need to say you don't say about yourself.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: I think I wanted to ask about one thing in
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: specific that you may be able to touch upon. So
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: the team's record is not good seventeen and thirty one
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: as we were recording this prior to Tuesday's game. Let's
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: say that this kind of continues, this cold stretch of
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: the air quotes. And we've talked about the lack of hustle.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: We've talked about a number of things, but your entire
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: life has been in the music industry, uh, by and large.
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: And I wanted to ask about musicians that may not
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: be playing maybe the venues that they would like to play,
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: or not as popular as they once were, or what
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: and just just the importance of maintaining a level of
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: professionalism when the going gets tough. And do you have
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: any thoughts on that topic that you might be able
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: to share.
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a lot of them. Uh. You know,
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: we've been fortunate. You know, if you look in the
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: back of the Hurdie ball string packages, which would my
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: and my family do. My sons Brian and Scott here
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: are very involved now. But we have everybody from Merrick
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: Clapton to you know, disturbed. It's it's the most amazing roster.
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  Speaker 3: But I'll tell you the one difference they have is
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: in music, it's subjective. In sports, there's a there's banning average,
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: there's a thousand statistics that can quantify you whether you're
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: good or not. Thank Gosh for that. If you're a
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: baseball player, for a musician, the rug could be pulled
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  Speaker 3: out of you just because one morning people decided that
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  Speaker 3: they didn't like you anymore. But I think one of
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  Speaker 3: the things is you've always got to respect your fans,
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: and you've got to respect your fans when you sell tickets.
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  Speaker 3: I think you've got to play as hard as you
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: can every time. If you're playing a bar that you
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: don't think you should be playing, you need to play
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: like you're at the Royal Arbert Hall because you had
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: never know who's in the crowd. The thing with baseball,
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: you need to play hard when it all comes down,
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: if you played hard, I mean, look, we didn't think
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  Speaker 3: we're going to win that game last night, Monday night.
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  Speaker 3: In the what was ended up being a two hitter
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  Speaker 3: with NNA. But you stay in the game, and you
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  Speaker 3: stay trying hard, and you stay giving your best, you
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  Speaker 3: stay being professional, good things will happen.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Let's stay on the good thing. I'm tired of the bad.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the good. Walbert. You reina, this guy
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  Speaker 1: is getting it done. This guy looks looks you would
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  Speaker 1: not know he was so relatively inexperienced major league wise.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he is a cool customer out there. He's
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  Speaker 2: got an elite change up.
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  Speaker 1: It graded out well, well above average actually in order
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  Speaker 1: has changed up. And then his sweeper, according to the
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: advanced analytics, is a set, and I think his sweeper
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  Speaker 1: is something he should use more and will use more.
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  Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Walbert Monday night navigating some tricky situations
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: too where his defense didn't quite pick him up, but
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: he got out of it and gave him a tremendous outing.
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  Speaker 3: Because you know what, you can talk about all the stats.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's got a heart, like he's a fierce competitor,
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  Speaker 3: he's playing way beyond his years, okay, and he's got
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  Speaker 3: natural ability. But you know, a young picture like that, well,
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: like we saw the other day when there were some
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: errors be gone Kohanovitch where he kind of lost his
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  Speaker 3: trade of thought. I watched Arena, I mean monccotomy in
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  Speaker 3: a really lazy play and thought he had the catcher
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: didn't have to throw very hard. It happens to be
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  Speaker 3: one of the speediest catchers in baseball. I know that
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  Speaker 3: the guy beat it out. Now a lot of young
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  Speaker 3: pitchers would really would let that get to them. I
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: think what people don't talk about the kid seems tough
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  Speaker 3: besides being talented.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, and he is a bright spot.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Jose Soriano. Another bright spot rankings came out today. You
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: know sars on the Athletic I was seeing that Soriano
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: again ranked pretty low for what he's done.
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  Speaker 2: I think he was almost twenty fifth.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have it in front of me, but part
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  Speaker 1: of the rationale was they think he's going to there
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: will be some natural regression in the whip walks to
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  Speaker 1: hit standings pitched, and they cited the defense behind him
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: as something that will probably hold him back as the
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: season moves forward, So they are not too high on
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: the Angels defense. Do you see it differently? Do you
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: think the Angels defense is better than you know, the
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  Speaker 1: type that would maybe hinder a pitcher's uh stats and
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  Speaker 1: ability to win something like a Cy Young.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you have to realize that we've been We've
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: watched the Angels three and Simmons, a lot of great players,
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: you know, Torry Hunter, Mike Trout and his thing, even
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Cole Calhoun. Uh, we've had some guys that played hard
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: and played it, just played really well. And uh, I
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: want to see that more of that. And I think
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: defense wins games. And it goes up the old saying
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  Speaker 3: up the middle. You know, centerfielder, your your infielders, your catcher,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: and uh, I think our catcher we all know, has
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: had a lot of issues, a lot of problems, and uh,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: you know, I just think we I think if you
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: focused on defense, you got a better chance of winning
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  Speaker 3: the game.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I think you're right, especially up the middle. One topic,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: and you've said it to me a few times. It's
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: not throwing you under the bus, but you have Do
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: you think that our outfielders are playing a little.
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  Speaker 3: Deep this flipper of a blowhole.
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  Speaker 2: I'll take that as a yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's a yes, I think. Okay, but let me
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: tell you something. It's that they're deep. You notice there's
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: not a lot of plays at home. There's not a
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: lot of plays at third. They're pretty deep, okay, and
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: you know, I know the thing is you don't want
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: to ball hit over your head, but I also like
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: getting those if you don't catch a single, getting on
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: a hop, charging and being aggressive, I think it's almost
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I would prefer to see a more aggressive outfielder outfield.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: I like tidocio there if they didn't. I think that
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: that Adell is a competent a right fielder, and I
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: think Mark I think that Mike Trout is still really good,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: but I think he needs some days off.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I know on the broadcast one day, Wayne said Trout
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: was putting on the defensive clinic on maybe the play
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: became a little harder because he was starting out deeper.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: It looked like a rather ordinary play for a center fielder.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: But maybe there's at times not enough highlights, so you
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: have to kind of create some of your own. And
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I think at times for an ex player that can
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: be a little confusing, but there there are.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: We'll go ahead, let me see this.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I'm not bagging on Mike Trub. Mike Trout is wonderful.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Mike Trouse represented the Angels really well Mike Trout. I mean,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying to me, it seems like they play deep.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: But I'm not bagging on Trott. I like Trout a lot.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: I think he's cold, and I think right now, and
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I really think that he wants to play every day
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: like he's twenty seven, and I want to see a
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: manager is no, you're not playing today because we want
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: you playing in August, in September, and I think that.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, oh, happy, fracture his hand and he's
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: back in five days bragging about it and he's playing.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: And I thought he thought he was dead right away.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: But also, you got a guy. Let me just see this.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: There's a regression going on there that's pretty serious. And
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's necessarily his fault. I think how
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: he's been handled, but his ops. When we got him
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: with six sixty one, then up to seven ninety six,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: that's elite catcher seven to twelve, and then the six
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: twenty nine last year. This year is five twenty eight,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: and he plays every game. He fractures his hand and
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: only sits out five games. You know, that's wonderful. You're
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: a real tough guy. But it's not helping the team.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think it playing through injury
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: is a very tough deal. I know I tried to
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: do it a couple times, but generally what happens is,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: at least for a while, the stats only go one way,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: and it's not the good way. And it can be
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: very tough to dig yourself out and try and have
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: a respectable season. If you get enough of bats under
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: your belt that you know you're not producing, the overall
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: line you know, starts to and then the pressure builds.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: And we've talked about many times, he's the guy that
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: does not need any more pressure applied to him.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: So I hope that the hand is maybe better than
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: we think. I hope it doesn't bother him swinging the.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Bat, because you know, a lot of his value is
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: tied to his offense, most of it, and they're counting
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: on him to be a guy you know that brings
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: a big power bat. I know when that trade was made,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: you seem to think maybe at the time that we
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: we just not only one but one handedly, if you
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: want to say, winning and losing in a trade. But
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: you know, Brandon marsh over there with the Phillies he's
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: doing all right this year, say the least Mark.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you a tough question, who has a
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: better organization the Phillies of the Angels.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: The Phillies weren't looking very good until they were took
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: a managerial fire for them. But they are now lighting up.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: And I think Schwarber just hit his forty eight home run.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Uh probably as we were brushing our teeth in the morning.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, they they they're now doing what they're doing,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: and that's.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: What it looks like.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're expected to do that though, So
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I think that that you know, there that is pressure.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about a market where there's pressure?
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia has pressure. I think you know here in for
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the scrappy Los Angeles Angels, as d G said, we're
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: called them. You know, you got one beat writer covering him,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and I know that you know, Zach and some of
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: us touch upon his comments briefly again, but you know,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: they're all together as a unit. They're hanging, they're sticking tough.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: They're the narratives you know, aren't bothering them and all this.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: But there's really not a lot of the I mean,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: there's no pressure on this ball club. So I think
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: that in terms of that, maybe that's not a great thing,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: though maybe there should be more.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: What mark they they First of all, there's pride there,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: but I think what we're going to get into is
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: that the seed is not going to get better, okay,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: especially when you don't play the right lineup and you
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: play guys with four hundred ops with five hundred ops
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: when you have uh, like, I think that one thing
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Netto's been missing is a reliable double play partner. I
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: think Fraser is fine, our closer. But hey, by the way,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: is Fraser going to get some of those rules that
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: o TOI gets now that he's a two way player,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Maybe a little longer to warm him up.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Three he plays defense?
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Is yeah okay? Good? Yeah, yeah, maybe he should get.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: To I I know that.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, our closer, Fraser, but uh who knows the rules?
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: A lot of interest obviously with Showy. But there's only
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: one of Showy.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: And uh, you know, maybe we we fixed we fixed him.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: You know, we're the great the Lynxer. If you're struggling
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: just to have a nice three game system series with
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: the Angels, it'll be fine.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: That's that's that's tough to hear, but it is the truth.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Well, last topic I kind of wanted to get into,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and with Netto talking about pulling the ball. You and
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I usually see hitting the same way. We like a
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: certain brand of baseball. We may have talked about it
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a little previously. But the Brewers do it, the Rays
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: do it, the Guardians do it, the Cubs do it,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: taking all types of hits, taking their singles. Even the
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Dodgers were doing it, and unfortunately the Angels seem very
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: very stuck. The right handed hitters in particular are having
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: a very tough time on pitches down in a way Joe, Adell,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Jorge and well, Zach Netto, even Trouty, it seemed. Does
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: this team look pole happy to you?
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Well, I can't use the flipper joke again, but yes,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: absolutely in it. Look at I really enjoyed watching Toronto
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: last year. I enjoy all the players that use the
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: whole field, that make you defend them, you know, that
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: make you defend the whole field. I like that. I
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: think it's more I wouldn't mind seeing a guy choke
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: up every once in a while with two strikes instead
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: of corkscrewing himself into the ground. Trying to hit a
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: ball eighteen inches off the plate.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I think that that's choking up. Might be something that
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: is not mentioned anymore. I'm not certain too.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Did you ever choke up?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Did you ever choke up strikes? I've done it since
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I was since I grabbed a bat.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: That was all that was.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: That's what you did, and that's what I did. Now
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: it wasn't some enormous amount, but it was a physical
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: adjustment that also there was a mental component too. You
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: have two strikes on you now, it's no longer time.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, I was always more
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: or less taught to stay the middle towards right center.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I had no point in my career except against certain pitchers,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and there were a feel like Bumgardner was one of them.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I realized, you have got to pull him because of
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the way he throws, because of the angle that it's
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: coming in. You're not gonna have any success trying to
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: take him to right center field. So there were probably
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: a handful of pitchers that I did actively look to
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: pull the baseball against, but that was very limited. And
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: now I see an offense that it seems like the
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: stock approach is to pull the baseball into the Maybe
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: the bullpens, I mean Neto's own quote, that's where he's
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: setting his sights. Now, maybe it's changed a bit too,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: and that maybe the influence of the hitting coaches getting
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: through a little bit. I haven't seen Zach rely credit
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: any of the hitting coaches yet, but I know that,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: you know, they said that everyone's work in the cage
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: has been outstanding and the best baseball is yet to come.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: The general manager himself said that skepticism abounds with the
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: on that one.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: But yeah, but and Mark Wayne says that that Trump
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: makes some nice planes, says, you're putting an outfield clinic.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: But look, I love Gooby a lot, really love him.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: But I wonder he's got to get there in pregame
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: and and try and make chicken soup out of this team.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: And now they're in in the uh in the booth,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I turned the sound off. They're laughing at the time
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: about screezing. But I don't blame them. You imagine covering
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: this team for one hundred and sixty two games and
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: they were like a quarter the way into it, and
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they're looking at each other going oh my.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: And then we have a very restrictive and punitive media staff.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Let me let me end the show.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: For you, please.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I think that the players would really prefer to see
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: the band aid ripped off, not just with the players,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: with the development staff, with the coaching staff. We've had
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: some great scouts over the years, and I think that
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: you could trade all these people, but if you put
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: them back in the same system, you're gonna end up
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: getting the same thing. You're expecting a different result. It's
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: not gonna happen. But I will say something. Every one
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: of the Angels minor league teams started out a little rough.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: They're right there at around five hundred and uh. You know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: the worst team in the Angel organization is the major
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: league team by a mile. So Perry did draft well,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: I think, and I think we have some great players,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: but I would I don't want to watch Moncotta lazily
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: throw or lazy run anymore. I want to see Gooseman.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I want to see people that want to be there
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: and want to make a name for themselves. But I
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: want I want an organization and a structure and a plan,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: you know, the Cardinal's way that dodge. You think about
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: all the different great teams that had philosophy as the age,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: like I said, last thing as okay, it's filled the
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: dreams and hope, and then it's being disingenuine in the
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: postgame comments. You know, it's just I don't even watch
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: that anymore. Suzuki's given the most basic little league responses.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: And when Perry does talk to you, I would love
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: to be at a Perry press conference. I wish I
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: wish I could ask him some questions, and I just
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: wish he could respond when he was disrespectful to the
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: person that's asking the question.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think this is easy for anybody that works
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: for the ball club right now, and it never is
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: when the team is scuffling this bad.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: But if they're not going.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: To lean into a rebuild, then this could be a
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: season that, like we said, rock bottom, and I think
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: it's going to take a lot of good play on
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the field to win the fans back that.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think a lot of them might
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: be rooting for the team to lose.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: At one point that would have been completely out of bounds,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: but it just has gotten to the point it's expected.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: The Dodgers came in, they took care of business. Maybe
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: maybe a Monday Night's game is the start of a
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: legitimate resurgence. It's gonna start with the pitching and the defense.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: So you can't just get it done counting on guys
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: like Walbert and Soriano and Detmer's to pitch their five
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: or six innings. It's gonna take more than that, and
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see the offense pick it up. Singles
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: are still very cool. There's nothing that's uncool about a
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: hit in the major leagues. Singles, doubles, taking the extra base,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: running hard to first base, all of you. Those are
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the things that I think. It starts somewhere, and it
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: starts there, and you know what I do hope they
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: start to play better and these guys perform, even though
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: this may not be the ideal situation. Like you said
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: with the musicians earlier, you gotta pour your heart out,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: You got to put your best effort for you're you
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: are a performer. You're an athlete, but a performer, and
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: these are the things that matter. So I think we're
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: gonna wrap the show, Sterling Ball. Thank you for your
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: contributions today. Do you have one last thing?
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, remember Nats cats possums. I wish bats were in there.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: They might be Wood. Maybe they're coming tonight.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: All right, thank you so much. I hope, I hope
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: to come back.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: We'll see about that, no problem. Thank you for watching
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• 31:39
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