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KRAKEN THIS MORNING: Current state of Kraken goaltending, structure, offense with John Forslund (11/13) · Seattle Kraken Audio Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Cracking this morning, a presentation of the Krack
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  Speaker 1: and audio network Ken Sports Radio ninety three point three
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  Speaker 1: KJR FM. Here's Mike Benton.
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  Speaker 2: Cracking jets.
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  Speaker 3: It's coming your way this evening on a Thursday, November thirteenth.
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  Speaker 3: Mike Benton with you for craking this morning, looking forward
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  Speaker 3: to having it once again tonight, face off at seven
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  Speaker 3: o'clock Pacific time, airtime at six thirty for the pregame
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  Speaker 3: shows served up by Frostpreed Corps Light. Choose chill ever
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  Speaker 3: it fits you, Alciniski a course on the call. I'll
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  Speaker 3: join you back by the Corpse Light landing in section
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  Speaker 3: twenty from the top of the broadcast. Tonight post game,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, we are back at Tom's watch Bar
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  Speaker 3: right across the street from Climate Pledge Arena, So come
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  Speaker 3: and join me Alconisky as well for food, friends, beverages, vibes,
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  Speaker 3: big screens, you name it, and more postgame conversation. So
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  Speaker 3: the Crack and trying to get back into the wind Callumn.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk with John Forsland in just a bit for
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  Speaker 3: more on the state of the Krack and goaltending their
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  Speaker 3: defense and a perceived offensive slump. How worried should we
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  Speaker 3: be about this? John will provide some more insight coming
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  Speaker 3: up on this in just a bit, as the Kraken
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  Speaker 3: looked to go to and zero against Winnipeg this season,
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  Speaker 3: though a pretty challenging test considering the Jets are right
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  Speaker 3: now ten and six, coming off a four to two
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  Speaker 3: victory over the Vancouver Canucks back on Tuesday. Well, the
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  Speaker 3: crack and facing Columbus looking to get out to a
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  Speaker 3: big start with a rookie Ford once again looking to
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  Speaker 3: light the fuse offensively on the cracking side.
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  Speaker 4: Now Larsen right side, back to the line, Chandler Steven said,
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  Speaker 4: two strides and shoots get his own rebound, fires again
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  Speaker 4: off the back skate a gossee fabreau. It'll bounce below
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  Speaker 4: the goal line as Ted Greaves didn't know where it was,
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  Speaker 4: cracket resetting bits done, couldn't pick it up. Here comes
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  Speaker 4: mart Tenko down the right side.
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  Speaker 5: Shoots off the crossbar. Oh my goodness, what chaos end
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  Speaker 5: to end here?
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  Speaker 6: Midway through period one? And now everly well at this
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  Speaker 6: all to the goal.
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  Speaker 4: And Jack Grees will glove it down. I fancilly over
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  Speaker 4: an ear blue line.
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  Speaker 7: Look back at the near.
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  Speaker 4: Side CINERI passing front Mark tenko one play man Matt Murray.
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  Speaker 6: Shuts it down. Oh what a fantastic pass from general
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  Speaker 6: to the corner.
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  Speaker 8: You got to that puck first and fired it up
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  Speaker 8: to the front and Marchenko with just a quick ritch
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  Speaker 8: shot on them.
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  Speaker 6: Eight seven shots cracking laid there. Ben Myers gets most.
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  Speaker 5: For Winter ten stop Winter is coming, Ryan.
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  Speaker 4: Winter ten gets it started here in Seattle three seventeen
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  Speaker 4: to play in the.
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  Speaker 8: First one, nothing cracking. We just talked about how much
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  Speaker 8: I like this fourth line combination. Right now, what into
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  Speaker 8: the ace you get a big safe by Matt Murray.
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  Speaker 6: The other end goes to Ford line. They go to work.
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  Speaker 8: Ben Myers picking that fuck up top of the circles.
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  Speaker 8: He's got a lead in the net like you did earlier.
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  Speaker 8: He sells shot and at the last second backhand over
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  Speaker 8: to widgeted one timer pass greaves one nuffing kracking.
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  Speaker 6: Miche Evans for the high slot, hands it off to
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  Speaker 6: them on tour white ling.
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  Speaker 4: Blue line shot off the boats. Oh that had more much.
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  Speaker 4: That was a knuckle pucket beat jet reeds.
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  Speaker 6: Looked like it was gonna.
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  Speaker 5: Flutter over the.
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  Speaker 4: Glove, but it kicked the bar in Starrensky right side.
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  Speaker 4: Fantillian from bumped on goal, knocked.
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  Speaker 5: Down save Marteko Fan Telly shot.
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  Speaker 4: Off the glove of Matt Murray and they score. Matt
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  Speaker 4: Murray two more inches from a highlight reel SportsCenter same
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  Speaker 4: it goes off the end of his glove and the
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  Speaker 4: Jackets on the power play tie. The game had a
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  Speaker 4: goal apiece. Marchhenko through center. He's got Fantilly. Fantilly gets
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  Speaker 4: by backhand big same by Murray. He goes down and
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  Speaker 4: stones fan Tilly's back and right hand.
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  Speaker 6: It's Charlie Coyle. He waits for the signal. Coil picks
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  Speaker 6: up the pucket. He'll bring it near side.
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  Speaker 4: Coil into the circle, back to the Hashbargs low slot
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  Speaker 4: shot off the bar. He scores and the Columbus Blue
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  Speaker 4: Jackets take the extra point in the shootout final two
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  Speaker 4: to one.
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  Speaker 3: So a tough way for that to end in a
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  Speaker 3: two to one Kraken shootout loss to Columbus out shot.
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  Speaker 2: By the way thirty four to twenty three, which gives.
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  Speaker 3: You the indication of how good Matt Murray was in
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  Speaker 3: that game. He's still looking for his first career win
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  Speaker 3: with the Kraken. But played well enough to get it
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  Speaker 3: thirty three saves on thirty four shots he had and
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  Speaker 3: providing more answers as far as goaltending depth in behind
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  Speaker 3: Joey Decord, who was still sidelined. Nonetheless, the Kraken unable
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  Speaker 3: to cash in on two power play opportunities and generating
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  Speaker 3: just fun five shansn nets in period three to one,
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  Speaker 3: as well in sudden depth over time John Fororzland coming
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  Speaker 3: up in just a bit before that. The Cracket holding
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  Speaker 3: an optional practice on Wednesday at crack In Community ice Plex,
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  Speaker 3: and head coach Lane Lambert spoke with the media afterward
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  Speaker 3: with more on his views with the Krackt offense and
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  Speaker 3: their direction heading into this Thursday's matchup.
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  Speaker 7: So last night after the game, you were talking a
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  Speaker 7: bit about, you know, the chances that you guys did
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  Speaker 7: have earlier in the game that marn't converted.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, how do you go about getting guys to convert?
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  Speaker 6: Is it more focused on the on the moments?
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  Speaker 4: Is it like how do you.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, no, I mean there's uh, you know, look
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  Speaker 9: at if you look at the shot attempts we've had.
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  Speaker 9: Let's just go back to the last three games. Uh,
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  Speaker 9: you know, We've had X number of shot attempts, about
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  Speaker 9: one hundred eighty seven to be exact, and you know
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  Speaker 9: we've only got we've had over one hundred of those
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  Speaker 9: either blocked or missed the net. So there's your there's
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  Speaker 9: your formula for you know, having success is to get
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  Speaker 9: more of those attempts on net. And you know, we
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  Speaker 9: have great structure in our defensive zone. We need to
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  Speaker 9: get better structure in the offensive zone. There's certainly some
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  Speaker 9: things that we can do. There's things that we talked
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  Speaker 9: about this morning, and we just have to keep trying
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  Speaker 9: to build on it. But you know, we can't defer
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  Speaker 9: to passing. We've got to have a shot first mentality
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  Speaker 9: and we've got to get pucks through. You know, forty
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  Speaker 9: four percent of the pucks that we shoot getting on
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  Speaker 9: net isn't a good enough percentage.
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  Speaker 5: You mentioned the shots blocked if we don't get on debt.
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  Speaker 6: Does that have anything to do with the location of
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  Speaker 6: the shots or is it more the shots are taked
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  Speaker 6: for where they are, but then they get on it.
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  Speaker 9: Uh, there's I mean, you're always going to have some
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  Speaker 9: shots blocked and you're always going to have missnets. It's
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  Speaker 9: that you know, that's just the way it is. But
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  Speaker 9: I think that we you know, and we we've talked
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  Speaker 9: about it. I think we take too long to get
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  Speaker 9: shots away, and uh, you know, fractions and I'm talking
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  Speaker 9: fractions of seconds are the difference between somebody getting a
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  Speaker 9: stick on it and going into the stands or us
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  Speaker 9: getting a shot with a potential rebound and two or
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  Speaker 9: three cracks at it from there. So you know, there
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  Speaker 9: certainly is a way for us to upgrade those opportunities.
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  Speaker 6: In your experience and you've worked with, you know, multiple.
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  Speaker 5: Teams, Why why you guys has.
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  Speaker 6: To take to shoot?
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  Speaker 8: Is it because there are tends to be unselfish players
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  Speaker 8: at times in commonality.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a bit of a you know that, that's
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  Speaker 9: probably the biggest thing is there. You know, they're being
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  Speaker 9: unselfish and they're trying to set their teammate up. We
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  Speaker 9: want them to be selfish. We talked about that this morning.
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  Speaker 9: If you're selfish as a shooter, if you're selfish as
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  Speaker 9: an offensive player, that just means you're you know, you're
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  Speaker 9: going to the net. You're putting pucks to the net
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  Speaker 9: and it's good for the team. So you know, that's
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  Speaker 9: it's a good observation by you, and I think that
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  Speaker 9: we just have to stop deferring and start taking more shots.
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  Speaker 5: Looked like Shane was Berkeley's playing last night. Did you
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  Speaker 5: play from Shane and then spot last night? Maybe even
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  Speaker 5: something you want.
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  Speaker 6: To see from him and goes forward?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought, you know, we're talking about being a shooter.
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  Speaker 9: Shane writes a shooter, you know. And I thought he
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  Speaker 9: had a couple of good opportunities last night, and we
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  Speaker 9: wanted to use his speed down the wing and and
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  Speaker 9: you know, maybe not have to come two hundred feet
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  Speaker 9: from an uh you know, from a centerman standpoint. So
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  Speaker 9: we'll see how we go in where this goes from here.
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  Speaker 4: And never is what he stacked a couple of good
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  Speaker 4: games where I just what you liked about how he's
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  Speaker 4: handled the year so far, the start off.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, he's been well, they've all been really professional about it.
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  Speaker 9: And you know, he's gotten an opportunity here and he's
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  Speaker 9: played well. You know, we haven't given him any run support,
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  Speaker 9: so to speak, but he's played well enough to have,
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  Speaker 9: you know, have better results than he's gotten.
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  Speaker 8: Lane Ben Myers game last night, I had his system
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  Speaker 8: lader and gold the shots in a couple of hits.
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  Speaker 6: Two questions, what's your coaching staff say to give both
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  Speaker 6: his game last night?
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  Speaker 1: And was there anything specific on.
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  Speaker 6: The kind ofly he took the net as.
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  Speaker 9: Far as feedback that he had, Yeah, I mean, as
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  Speaker 9: far as as far as coaching staff, we want to
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  Speaker 9: keep playing the way he is. He he's using his speed,
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  Speaker 9: he's in you know, he's in on puck's on the
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  Speaker 9: fore check, you know, and he's he's owning the puck
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  Speaker 9: in the in the offensive zone as well.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 9: I mean he took one of the net in the
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  Speaker 9: first period. He was coming off the wall taking one
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  Speaker 9: of the net when he made the play to Winterton,
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  Speaker 9: and you know, he obviously took one to the net.
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  Speaker 9: I don't like penalties two hundre feet away from our nett,
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  Speaker 9: but I can live with those penalties when we're taking
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  Speaker 9: pucks of the net.
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  Speaker 8: Heart, what do you want to see from Janyuan as
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  Speaker 8: he kind of waits for another opportunity.
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  Speaker 7: To get back in the line.
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  Speaker 9: Well, he's got to stay ready. That's the first thing.
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  Speaker 9: That's one of the biggest things. It's not just for
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  Speaker 9: a younger player, it's for any player who hasn't played
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  Speaker 9: for you know a few games. Is you got to
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  Speaker 9: stay ready. You got to make sure you're ready and
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  Speaker 9: you're in game shape. That's step one. Step two is
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  Speaker 9: when he gets back in you know his detail, his
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  Speaker 9: defensive play, and I want him to do what I'm
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  Speaker 9: talking about with everybody else. I want to use his shot.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Johnny is back from his national TV adventure.
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  Speaker 3: Is going to have him back as always, especially here
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  Speaker 3: where he's always welcome on and cracking this morning. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: I play for the crack at Hockey Network NHL on TNT,
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  Speaker 3: Amazon Prime as well, and tour guide for color Analyst
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  Speaker 3: and our pal Eddie Old Chik back in town as well, Johnny,
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  Speaker 3: how are you? I heard dinner was on the menu
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  Speaker 3: and I noticed in this time ed Zoe paid for it.
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  Speaker 7: He did tonight. I got to get him credit. We
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  Speaker 7: kind of trade off that way, and tonight was his.
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  Speaker 7: He kind of set me up. He told me last
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  Speaker 7: night that he wasn't going to pay, so I was
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  Speaker 7: ready to pay. I put my pennies aside, but he
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  Speaker 7: broke down. So it's all good, Mike. All good?
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  Speaker 2: Is ed Zoe medium mersdy kind of guy?
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  Speaker 7: No, he's completely well done.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, cook to perfection, more.
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  Speaker 7: More well done than I've ever seen another human being
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  Speaker 7: well done. Me, it has to be basically shoe leather,
• 11:35
  Speaker 7: and he's happy see more on the rare side.
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  Speaker 3: That sounds like my wife who loves it basically like
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  Speaker 3: its charred black and wants to make sure everything is cooked.
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  Speaker 3: I liked a little bit of tenderness, like right smack
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  Speaker 3: in the middle. I yet to have some juices kind
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  Speaker 3: of oozing out of it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. No, I lean more rare, and he is a
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  Speaker 7: If he gets a prime rib, he will ask for
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  Speaker 7: the end cut as well done as possible. Well, then
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  Speaker 7: it makes no bones about it.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, then again you have the juicus here to dip
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  Speaker 3: it in and it's all good. It's all good, but
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  Speaker 3: great to have you back ed. Zoe back in downtown
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  Speaker 3: as well and full house. It seems like here for
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  Speaker 3: the press box coming up against Winnipeg, and I kind
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  Speaker 3: of lead into this here first off with the goaltending
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  Speaker 3: picture and it seems as if Joey de Cord getting
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  Speaker 3: back on the ice. That's a step in the right direction.
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  Speaker 3: But in the meantime they've had a jugglest thing with
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  Speaker 3: Matt Murray. Then Philip Grubauer getting a win in Saint Louis.
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  Speaker 3: But it really just seemed as if we have seen
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  Speaker 3: Matt Murray turn the clock back a little bit here,
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  Speaker 3: and it couldn't have come right now at a better time.
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  Speaker 3: I think at this point of the season. What's your
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  Speaker 3: outlook right now on this goaltending picture.
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  Speaker 7: Well, you hope that obviously, I hope it continues. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: it's funny because we talked about the three goalies and
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  Speaker 7: the oddity of it all, and maybe it takes a
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  Speaker 7: roster spot away from another player, skater forward, a d
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  Speaker 7: that you might need. You know, that was earlier in
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  Speaker 7: the season, and whether or not there's going to be,
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  Speaker 7: you know, enough work for these guys. Are they going
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  Speaker 7: to sit way too long? And you know, and Joey
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  Speaker 7: played every game of that homestand you know, he got
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  Speaker 7: to a situation where okay, now because of need, they're
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  Speaker 7: thrust into duty. Both guys I thought played really well
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  Speaker 7: on the weekend on the road. Obviously I didn't see
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  Speaker 7: the game against Columbus. It's seeing clips. I read about it.
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  Speaker 7: I've heard about it, and yes he did. He did
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  Speaker 7: a great job. Matt Murray did a great job, so
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  Speaker 7: did Grubauer and Saint Louis. It'll be interesting to see,
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  Speaker 7: you know, what holds up, you know, tonight and who
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  Speaker 7: gets the start. You know, I would think it's going
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  Speaker 7: to be Matt Murray against a much more difficult opponent
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  Speaker 7: in my opinion in Winnipeg. We'll see and then the cord,
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  Speaker 7: you know, with a sighting at practice. That's interesting because
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  Speaker 7: you know, we don't get a lot of information, but
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  Speaker 7: some of the information that I was getting from people
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  Speaker 7: that I trust was kind of negati about Joey's the
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  Speaker 7: duration of his injury. So this is good news to
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  Speaker 7: see that he was able to get on the ice
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  Speaker 7: and go through whatever he did. That's nothing but a positive.
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  Speaker 7: But in the meantime, I think short term for the fans,
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  Speaker 7: it's a Grubauer Murray situation and it's just going to
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  Speaker 7: be up to Lane to figure out, you know, which opponent,
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  Speaker 7: which game and so on as they move forward.
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  Speaker 3: And because it seems as if with the way that
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  Speaker 3: this team plays, goaltending has to be a big slice
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  Speaker 3: of the pie as far as success, we've seen this
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  Speaker 3: and part of this is also because they have been
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  Speaker 3: struggling to score goals for this year, they are toward
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  Speaker 3: the bottom of goals scored for per game, and they're
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  Speaker 3: right now last in the NHL at five on five
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  Speaker 3: goals for the entire season. Lane Lambert is set after
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  Speaker 3: practice and it was optional on Wednesday. He wants the
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  Speaker 3: players to play with more of a selfish approach. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: and this could go between how some guys are just
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  Speaker 3: wired to pass the puck but you know just before shoot,
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  Speaker 3: or whether they're just coming off a plane previous assistance
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  Speaker 3: where it's a little more east west of line. But Johnny,
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  Speaker 3: what's your read here on the cause as of this
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  Speaker 3: right now? In the direction that they maybe have to go,
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  Speaker 3: I would.
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  Speaker 7: Just tell everybody to cool your jets and don't get
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  Speaker 7: too worked up about the fact that they can't score.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think that's a surprise. Based on the players
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  Speaker 7: that they have, the type of team that it is,
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  Speaker 7: we know a lot of things need to be in
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  Speaker 7: play for them to be successful. The most important thing
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  Speaker 7: for this team is to play a strong defensive game
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  Speaker 7: that grinds the opponents into the ice, supported by capable goaltending.
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  Speaker 7: If they continue to do that, I think the goals
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  Speaker 7: will come. It's going to be challenging. It's going to
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  Speaker 7: probably take a lot more patience that maybe people have
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  Speaker 7: right now. And know there's people after the Columbus game
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  Speaker 7: that are ready to jump off a bridge because they
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  Speaker 7: couldn't score against Jeff b Reeves in that game, against
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  Speaker 7: a team that played the night before and a flu
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  Speaker 7: and sickness going through their room and all of that.
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  Speaker 7: I get it. But the style of play that Lane
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  Speaker 7: has put down here will win, and the Kraken need
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  Speaker 7: to just embrace it. And I think the players have
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  Speaker 7: and I think it's interesting. You know he talks about
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  Speaker 7: getting in better position offensively to get more shot volume. Well,
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  Speaker 7: I think what they could do is basically simplify their
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  Speaker 7: offensive game and it will. It will do them a
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  Speaker 7: world of good because you know, when I watch them
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  Speaker 7: play offensively, sometimes they psych a little bit too much.
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  Speaker 7: They look for a scene pass that might be you know,
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  Speaker 7: either riskier impossible. They're looking for perfect plays. So it's
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  Speaker 7: meat and potatoes defensively, meat and potatoes offensively that means
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  Speaker 7: low to high point shots get to the net period.
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  Speaker 7: And if they do that, I think they'll score. And
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  Speaker 7: if they continue to play a solid brand of hockey,
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  Speaker 7: because every time you want to talk about, well they're
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: at the Barn League offensively, Well, they're at the upper
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: end of it in terms of their defensive play. So
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: you know, I looked at some fancy numbers last week
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: and yes, you know, goals for expected not so good,
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: goals for against expected the best. So that's okay. You
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: can't get into where it was last year. As soon
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: as you get risky, it's trouble. So I think we
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: just have to fans sit back and let them play
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: their system and go through this process and see how
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: it plays out.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: I'll add to that as well. They've given up exactly
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: a grand total of one five on five goal, one
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: five on five goal now over the last one hundred
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: and twenty minutes.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: That's not too shabby, and that.
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: I'm glad you brought that up, because that's a metric
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: that I look at all the time, and goal for
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: goals against five on five is a key stat and
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: it usually leads you to a good conclusion, you know,
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: and that's what you look for in any statistic conclusion.
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: Otherwise it's just a number that kind of you get
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: thrown out there and it sound intelligent and you start
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: wirping up numbers, but basically it's got to lead you
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: down a good path and five on five. Will remember,
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: in the second year this franchise, when they did make
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: the playoffs, they led the league in five on five.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Goals, Johnny, what difference does it make with Jared McCann
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: and Freddie Goodrow out right now?
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: Well, it hurts them, you know, with Freddie number one
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: face off wise, and this team is severely challenged to
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: win face offs, and it's going to be the case
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: and Chandler Stevenson has to take way too many face offs.
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: Goudreau and the lineup will alleviate that issue. He's a
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: right handed shot, which gives the coach an option, you know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: in certain circumstances to get him on his power side.
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: When you go at it here, you basically have Shane
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: Wright as your only right handed option. And Shane's not
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: there yet. He's not very good in the face off circle.
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: He's going to improve as he gets older and gets stronger,
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: but it's not there. Beniers is holding his own, but
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: he's fifty to fifty at best, usually around forty seven percent.
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: Stevenson is an excellent faceoff man, but needs to have support,
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: you know, and Ben Myers and Ben Myers and his
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: line mates played very well against Columbus. You know, that
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: was that was good. So that's a positive, that yeah,
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: And that's a yeah. And he's a good player, you know,
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: he's he's one of these guys that you know, it's
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: it's unfortunate that he's just kind of typecast as a tweener,
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: a and a call up and a guy that can
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: go up and down between the NHL and the EHL
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: and made basically an HL veteran guy for that purpose only.
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: But I always felt in the two camps that I've
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: seen him that he deserved more of an opportunity than
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: he was given. So this is good for him. This
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: is good that he's he can move, he's an excellent skater,
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: he's an outstanding college player. I mean, he is not
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: too far away from being, you know, in a in
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: a group of twelve at the NHL level on a
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: regular basis, and he's proving that he wants to stick around.
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: So good for him. We'll see when they when they
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: get healthier. But you know what, the way the schedule is,
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: it's going to be a revolving door with injuries all
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: year for every team around the league.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: I also love what Lane Lambert said Johnny about Ben
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Meyer the other night, and he was smack with a
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: goaltender interference penalty driving the net and that will just
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: drive coaches while pull their hair out when you take
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: a penalty two hundred feet away from your own net.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: And he said so as well. But he can always
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: live with those penalties because Ben Myers is doing what
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: everyone has been commissioned on this team to do, and
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: that to make a B line right toward the front
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: of the nets right.
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: And again, this is a process because for some players
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: on this roster it doesn't come naturally and it has
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: to kind of get extracted out of them and it
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: might take, you know, half a season. Hopefully not, but
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: maybe it will for them to do it in numbers
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: and to a man, and that's what you're driving for.
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: So good on him for playing that way in his role.
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: He has to, so it's a little bit easier in
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: other roles with other guys who are National Hockey League
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: players are looking at careers and bodies of work and
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: contracts and all these different things. They need to do it,
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: you know, And that's why I think if they simplify
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: their game offensively. As they're playing defensively, the goals are
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: going to start to come. But it's not going to
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: be an easy way to play. And you know, most
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: of the teams go through a situation like this.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Berkeley Catton is past a nine game mark, now three
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: assists so far, still looking for his first NHL goal.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: He's been playing up, he's been playing down, he's been
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: playing out there for the last minute of regulation, all
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: over the place. At this point, Johnny, what do you
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: make out of Berkeley Catton at this point in the NHL?
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: Getting better? But still, you know, the circumstances have given
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: him an opportunity to be here, and with a team
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: that doesn't have a skill need with McCann being out
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: of the lineup, a team that had it has a
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: little bit more of a pedigree as far as a
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: playoff team that can be considered that way going into
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: the season. Then maybe maybe there's not a spot for him,
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: but there is, and you can see within games, although
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: it comes and it goes to be fair, you know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: you can see the framework of what's going to be
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: a very dynamic player if he hits his stride. You
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: can also see, to be fair, a player that gets
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: separated from the puck, that gets lost out there a
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: little bit. And to be fair to him, he's not
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: really playing his natural position. He's played the majority of
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: his tenure here on the wings. But if they do
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: play him down the middle, there's a risk that's in play,
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: and so you know, it's difficult. And then the style
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: of play that the Krack and are employing, it's hard
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: for him as a nineteen year old, you know, because
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: he's not physically mature yet, so he needs to get
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: stronger and he's trying to do this at the NHL level, which,
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: to be fair to him, is not easy. So it
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: is what it is. I hate that phrase, but that's
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: what it is. You have to kind of live with
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: it because there is no option for him in the
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: American Hockey League, and I guess there really isn't an
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: option in junior hockey either. For right now, you know
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: here he is. As we get closer to the holidays,
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: we'll see what's in play in terms of World Juniors
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: and all of that. They're going to burn a year.
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: I think the team would never have done it if
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: they're not comfortable doing it. Burn a year of his
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: contract and just get them, get them move along. And
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: if you listen to Lane every day, which you do
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: because you're there every day doing all that work, you
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: hear him kind of be very guarded with how he
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: talks about him. He talks about him glowingly in terms
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: of potential. But I think what Lane's trying to get through,
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: and I want the fans to understand that, is that
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: they're trying to coach them through situations while they're trying
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: to win games. That's hard. That's hard on the coaching
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: staff and the player.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, for sure. And we even heard from Lane
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Lambert two days ago before the first game of the
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: homestand here where there was more of a guarded approach
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: as far as his long term picture. But he loves
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: his foundation as far how he can move the plot.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: But it is going to be certainly of work in
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: progress here with them at nineteen years of age. And
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: funny enough, how this game just made change next year
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: here with the AEL thing, and a guy like Jack
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: O'Brien is all of a sudden eligible to go there after.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: He has been tearing up the Ohl this season.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: Right, and so you know that's the beauty of that situation.
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: But every player's different. Every players in a different circumstance.
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: I do think with Cat and it's more clear for
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: him in terms of where he's at than say where
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: it was a couple of years ago for Shane Right.
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: I think a lot that was going on with Shane
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: Wright when he was kind of in the same position
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: as psychological, you know, and the team doesn't have to
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: worry about that. You know, he had right coming off
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: his draft year and the so called slip the floor
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: and all these different things, and there's a lot of
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: media attention in Canada about Shane Wright at that time
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: and where he was going to play. Berkeley can basically
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: be comfortable in his own skin, you know, with this organization,
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: they're going to do everything possible to insulate him and
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: make sure that it works. I think if everybody's honest
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: and they got in a room, which they're not going
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: to be, but if they were, you know, they would say,
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: I wish we didn't have to do this with this
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: player at this time playing in the National Hockey League,
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: but they are, and I think as time marchers on,
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: like I said before, there's going to be injuries. So
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: I think because he does have a skill set that
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: they desperately need. It's a grinding team and there's not
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: a lot of prolific offensive skill on the roster. He
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: is supposed to be that moving forward, and you can
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: see it in his toolbox what he brings. You can
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: see that he has that. It's just it's not going
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: to be consistent at this level.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Kraken and Jets coming up in the second matchup of
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: the season. Winnipeg is ten and six coming out there
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: win over the Vancouver Canucks, and a lot of folks
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: were talking about the word regression when it came to
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: this team. I'm not so sure about that yet here
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: at this point, they got Jonathan Taves and it seems
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: like he's now turning back the clock on his own game.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Adding to that, Kyle Connor, Mark Schifley and Josh Morrissey
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: still doing their thing.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: What's you read here on the challenge here for this evening, Johnny, Well.
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: It's going to be a very good challenge because the
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: Winnipeg Jets play the same way the Kraken Air attempting
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: to play, and I don't want to be disrespectful, but
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: with more talent, and that's the difference. They have an
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: unbelievably world class goaltender who keeps them where they need
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: to be every single night because he plays almost every
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: single night.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: Yes, in Connor Hellibuck.
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: And then you have this core of talent led by Schifley.
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: You get to Connor Ballardi, get these guys up front,
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: you get to Josh Morrissey in the back end, and
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: then you go through their lineup and it gets heavy
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: with Adam Lowry, who's just come back from injury as
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: one of the best captains you know in the National
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: Hockey League in my opinion, a guy who can play
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: basically a three seed position but do it at an
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: elite level. He's heavy, strong, doesn't make a lot of
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: defensive mistakes. Jonathan Tave's unbelievable story as a legend who's
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: making a comeback, and now with Lowry coming back into
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: their lineup, Caves will slot in a better spot than
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: he's tried to play for the first six to seven
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: weeks or so as the second center. So you know,
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: they have an unbelievable team game that's in lockstep defensively,
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: and then when they need a power play goal, they
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: get it. When they need a game breaking play, they
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: get it. And they will go, they will check for
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: their chances, they will skate with you. They can play
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: any way you want. They're just in a tough neighborhood.
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: That Central Division is really hard and they're in the
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: same spot. They always are top three team depending on
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: where they finish, and they won the President's Trophy last year.
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: But Pop three team. But there's Colorado and there's Dallas,
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: and then there's the other teams there too. But that's
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: a tough neighborhood. But that's theirs. But this is this
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: is a great test coming off the Columbus game to
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: see if the Kraken won't break down and just stay
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: true to their consistency and how they want to play
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: and that cave into panic and try to score. If
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: you try to score the wrong way against this team,
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: they will be game over.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Trust me right right if you if you try to
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: cheat the system, they will come back and bite you.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: We've seen that over and over and over with this
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Winnipeg team. Well dinner with that, Zoe's all done. We
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: have showed this up enough as well, and Johnny and
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: broadcast terms nine to seven o'clock. Let's see, shall we
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: looking forward to it? Thanks again, my man, yep.
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: Great to be back in town. Look forward to the
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: next few games now. I don't think I miss a
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: game with the Kraken for three four weeks now, which
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: is great, and look forward to it. And let's just
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: hope that this continues. And again it's it's it can
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: be frustrating, and I think that's the one message I
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: want to leave with everybody is that the style of
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: play can be frustrating, but it's a good way to play.
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: It is a good way to place it the right
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: way to play, and Lane knows this and you just
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: got to trust it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: For now, all right, Johnny, You're the best. Appreciate as always,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: John Forsland tvp IF. I play voice of course on
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: the KRACK and Hockey Network NHL on TNT, Amazon Prime
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: as well hanging out with us here. The krakeing in
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: matchup two coming up against Winnipeg Jets have always been
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: a tough out. The Crack and record right now three
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: six and four and that three nothing win they had
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: over Winnipeg in the first matchup of the year, the
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Cracking had two empty net goals plus also Joey de
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Kordad thirty two saves in net for the win. We'll
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: see if the Kraken had to approach this similar or
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: differently against Winnipeg tonight. Also there look at to even
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: their record at home right now with just one win
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: unfortunately in six tries, yet forcing overtime on three separate occasions,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: with Winnipeg eventually settling for an OT point. Jordan Everley
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: right now leads the Kraken against Winnipeg, had to headline
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: time in scoring with twenty one points in thirty games.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: He leads the.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Cracking right now with five goals on the season, all
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: have come at even strength. So the Kracking looking to
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: make it two wins and two tries against Winnipeg, who
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: was out to a great start so far this season.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: We'll talk more about it this evening at six point
• 30:17
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• 30:23
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• 30:27
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• 30:29
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• 30:34
  Speaker 3: you can join us. Big thank you again to John
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Forslund and for kracking this morning. I'm Mike Benton. Enjoy
• 30:39
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