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6/10/26: US Strikes Iran, Inflation Rises As Tech Stocks Fall, Platner Wins In Maine · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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Speaker 4: you probably shouldn't. But we're going to tell you what
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Speaker 4: people are claiming is going on between Iran, Israel and
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Speaker 4: the United States anyway.
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Speaker 5: And when you say people, you mean the President of
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Speaker 5: the United SLA, I do mean that. So just called
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Speaker 5: Fox News, we're juggling some breaking news here right now
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Speaker 5: this morning. He just called in a Fox News as
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Speaker 5: we are recording this, so we're going to bring you
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Speaker 5: the audio of what Fox News the video of what
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Speaker 5: Fox News says the President conveyed about the down Apache
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Speaker 5: helicopter on Monday night. He's also been posting all morning
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Speaker 5: on True Social about Iran. So we have tons of
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Speaker 5: updates to get to in the Middle East. We are
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Speaker 5: we're going to have CPI numbers, so inflation numbers coming
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Speaker 5: out this morning. There's a lot to talk about, especially
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Speaker 5: as the stock market took a real hit yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Ryan, it was pretty interesting to watch that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it's going to be much better today.
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Speaker 1: Likely not.
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Speaker 4: I think reality may be finally catching up. We've got
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Speaker 4: election results South Carolina Governor Nancy Mace will tell you
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Speaker 4: how she did. Graham Platner will tell you how he did.
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Speaker 4: Janet Mills and Nancy Mace who did better out of
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Speaker 4: the two of them, and Mills was at like nineteen percent.
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Speaker 4: What did Mace come in it?
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Speaker 5: It's a good question, but it's also sort of where's
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Speaker 5: the bar right, Like Janet Mills is the sitting governor
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Speaker 5: of Nancy Mace's Nancy Bace.
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Speaker 4: We're going to look at a really crazy story that
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Speaker 4: has not gotten the attention that it deserved, and that
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Speaker 4: is the Ukrainian effort to assassinate Vladimir Putin at the
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Speaker 4: end of last year. And we're going to go through
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Speaker 4: the evidence that has been presented as to whether or
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Speaker 4: not that happened, and which includes apparently a Zelenski just
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Speaker 4: kind of admitting it recently, and talk about what the
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Speaker 4: potential implications that could be when it comes to nuclear war.
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Speaker 5: And as this war is, the war in Ukraine not
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Speaker 5: getting as much attension since Epic Fury started, but that
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Speaker 5: war was an incredibly intense period right now as well,
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Speaker 5: so super important story to get to.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we'll also be joined toward the back end
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Speaker 4: of the show by Jane Kim. This is an attempt
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Speaker 4: to rectify our East Coast chauvinism. Big important things happen
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Speaker 4: all the time, and on the West coast.
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Speaker 1: We got Randy Veegis.
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Speaker 4: Yes, we're going to talk about Randy Vegas, he won.
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Speaker 4: We're going to talk about Maybang, she won. But Jane
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Speaker 4: Kim on a Insurance for All platform, won the California
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Speaker 4: insurance race with the backing of Bernie Sanders. It is
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Speaker 4: not often that a statewide candidate wins on a populist
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Speaker 4: message without corporate support in California, And so we're gonna
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Speaker 4: ask her how the heck she did that and what
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Speaker 4: she's going to do with this very important but overlooked
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Speaker 4: position that she'll have in California state government. And then
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Speaker 4: a friend of the show wanted to beat Rojas is
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Speaker 4: going to be on to talk about a president that
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Speaker 4: actually does seem to be doing stuff for the people
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Speaker 4: that have elected her. That's Claudia Shinbaum in Mexico.
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Speaker 1: You're such a shine bomb fanboy.
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Speaker 5: We are, we are here, right, We've generally been pro
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Speaker 5: shine Bomb here.
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Speaker 4: But she's Mexico first. I mean, you know, I love.
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Speaker 1: Truly Mexico first.
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Speaker 5: World Cup obviously beginning with games in Mexico on Thursday.
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Speaker 5: And Pete Heseth is in Guantanamo today, So I want
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Speaker 5: to feed Rojas is very covers all of that very closely.
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Speaker 5: So we have a lot of questions to get to
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Speaker 5: with him. Speaking of questions, Ryan, so many questions raised
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Speaker 5: by President Donald Trump's interview with Fox News this morning.
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Speaker 5: He apparently called Trey Yanst and Trey Yanks reported live
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Speaker 5: on Fox what he heard from the President about that
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Speaker 5: down to Pache helicopter on Monday.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
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Speaker 6: I want to start with a story the President told
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Speaker 6: me new details about the downing of this US Army
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Speaker 6: Apache helicopter. President Trump tells Fox News that the Iranian
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Speaker 6: drone lodged in between the two pilots in this helicopter.
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Speaker 6: They were flying very low and at that point the
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Speaker 6: drone didn't explode as it had intended to, and so
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Speaker 6: these pilots were trying to take down the helicopter with
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Speaker 6: the drone lodged into this gunship without it exploding, and
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Speaker 6: at any moment it could have exploded, the President told me,
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Speaker 6: and he said it was on fire. There was a
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Speaker 6: lot of heat inside the cockpit of this helicopter, and
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Speaker 6: ultimately these two pilots were able to take it down
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Speaker 6: into the sea, where ultimately they were rescued for the
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Speaker 6: first time in US military history by an unmanned sea drone. Now,
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Speaker 6: President Trump also talked about the US strikes last night
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Speaker 6: against Iranian radar systems and air defense sites. He said
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Speaker 6: the Iranians had tried to rebuild during the seasfire their
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Speaker 6: defensive capabilities, but they were unable to stop these US
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Speaker 6: strikes overnight and they were hammered by US fighter jets. Now, interestingly,
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Speaker 6: President Trump told me that he is getting close to
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Speaker 6: ordering new strikes against Iranian power plants and.
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Speaker 4: Bridges, and so another friend of the show aside, Muhammed Marandi,
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Speaker 4: posted on Twitter in response to this. Trump has just
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Speaker 4: announced on Fox News the death sentence of the Saudi, Katari, Bahraini, Yue,
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Speaker 4: and Kuwaiti regimes, as well as the global economy soup.
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Speaker 4: When this Patche helicopter first went down, it was reported
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Speaker 4: as we don't know why it just went down. Then
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Speaker 4: it was reported that it was hit by a shot
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Speaker 4: head drone and people were like, that's very odd because
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Speaker 4: these things like you'd have to be drunk or asleep
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Speaker 4: to get hit by one, Like, how does this happen?
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Speaker 4: Like these are not designed to hit Apache helicopters. Yeah, Now,
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Speaker 4: maybe there's just so many Apache helicopters and so many
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Speaker 4: Shahad drones flying over the strait of hermoves that one
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Speaker 4: of them accidentally collided. Then other people said, well, maybe
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Speaker 4: it was one of these loitering missiles that Iran has
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Speaker 4: that operates similar to drones that are intended to hit
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Speaker 4: aircraft like that, or it just went down, or none
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Speaker 4: of this ever happened, Like there are all of these
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Speaker 4: different ideas. And then Trump started to say, well, maybe
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Speaker 4: it happened, maybe it didn't, like maybe it was an accident,
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Speaker 4: and it looked like he was trying to find a
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Speaker 4: way out. We went all the way with this claim
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Speaker 4: from Trump. We didn't have the drone is lodged in
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Speaker 4: between the two guys.
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Speaker 5: We didn't have a lot of information for the last
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Speaker 5: couple of days until this bit of information on fish.
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Speaker 4: Can we call it information, I don't know what.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what we call it.
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Speaker 4: It's a collection of words coming from the President of
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Speaker 4: the United States.
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Speaker 1: So the we did know.
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Speaker 5: Part of the information we did have is that the
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Speaker 5: pilots were apparently safe, and we don't know how that happened.
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Speaker 5: But now we're told they were rescued for the first
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Speaker 5: time in American history. I believe yings said by a
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Speaker 5: seed droneous to the president.
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Speaker 4: So this is like some of the rescue boat that's
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Speaker 4: drone powered, that went out and so according to this,
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Speaker 4: they safely landed the helicopter.
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Speaker 5: Because you can't eject from this patche So you have
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Speaker 5: to land.
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Speaker 4: There are blades as far as I understand, yes, yes,
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Speaker 4: that would complicate the objection of that.
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Speaker 5: Yes, that would be a tough one. So you have
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Speaker 5: to land it either on the land or in the water.
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Speaker 5: And they were the water and you got the autonomous
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Speaker 5: sy drones coming for you.
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Speaker 4: So they landed in the water. Uh the drone has
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Speaker 4: not blown up yet, but it's on fire. Okay, Then
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Speaker 4: they they both get out of the apache, assuming I
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Speaker 4: guess different doors, because there's a drone in between them.
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Speaker 4: According to Trump, the drone smashed through the window and
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Speaker 4: it's sitting between them. Also, these shot head drones are massive, Like,
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Speaker 4: these are not the Hesbala FPV drones. These are not
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Speaker 4: the ones that you got for Christmas and took to
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Speaker 4: the park and used one time.
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Speaker 1: Uh, they don't get drone for Christmas, That's what I.
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Speaker 4: Just These things are huge. So how a shot had drone?
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Speaker 4: A huge shot drone landed in between the pilots. Has
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Speaker 4: Trump ever seen one? I don't know if he would
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Speaker 4: tell this story if he had seen one.
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Speaker 1: I know it's a jump it.
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Speaker 5: At this point, I don't think it's even makes sense
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Speaker 5: for us to try and piece the logic together.
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Speaker 4: Maybe post we can show up a picture, like a
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Speaker 4: scaled picture of a shot compared to an apatche Actually
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Speaker 4: like they're huge anyway, Okay, so we so let's put
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Speaker 4: up a zero zero. Trump has launched a wave after
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Speaker 4: wave of strikes on Iran. Iran has responded, and now
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Speaker 4: we're supposed to be getting more. But so here's what
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Speaker 4: Trump has said after he launched several waves of these attacks.
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Speaker 4: Uh Ron's military. Iran's military is a complete and total mess.
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Speaker 4: How's your Trump? Much of it, like their navy and
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Speaker 4: air force doesn't even exist anymore. They have been completely defeated.
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Speaker 4: Iran is all talk and no action. The bully of
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Speaker 4: the Middle East is dead. They've taken too long to
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Speaker 4: negotiate a deal that would have been great for them.
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Speaker 4: Now they will have to pay the price.
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Speaker 1: Your commitment, waned about midway.
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Speaker 4: Through, Trump is like starting to actually bore me. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: it's well, even with all this spectacle.
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Speaker 5: Because under normal circumstances, him saying what he said this morning,
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Speaker 5: and even to say that they will have to pay
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Speaker 5: the price, obviously it's huge news. It is still what
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Speaker 5: we're leading the show with because it's huge news, but
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Speaker 5: he's done this so many times that what it actually
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Speaker 5: means remains in question. Unusual for the President of the
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Speaker 5: United States to speak with such strong language historically and
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Speaker 5: us be at an impasse for what actually is happening
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Speaker 5: right now.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he even went back to a a new
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Speaker 4: like his all Praise Be to Allah he posted this morning,
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Speaker 4: whereas the all Praise to a Lah, I'm not finding it.
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Speaker 4: But he did another one. If he's on a complete
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Speaker 4: and total rampage on truth.
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Speaker 1: Social quesionly about Joe Scarborough and he's.
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Speaker 4: And he did it. He again, he did his Praise
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Speaker 4: be to Allah, which is boomer posting, which is to
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Speaker 4: try to try to put some rationality to it. I
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Speaker 4: think when he does his praise be to a law
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Speaker 4: nonsense his he's trying to say I'm crazy. He's trying
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Speaker 4: to do the Nixon like, I'm so crazy that you
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Speaker 4: better make a deal with me because I'm so crazy.
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Speaker 4: I'm just throwing out random praise be to allahs.
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Speaker 5: But do you think it's an it's a concerted effort,
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Speaker 5: or do you think it is just crazy.
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Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's concerned. I think he's
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Speaker 4: I think it's him trying to.
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Speaker 1: But not to be meta. That's kind of crazy in
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Speaker 1: and of itself.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it'll work. It's it's silly.
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Speaker 5: Trying to be that crazy and sounding that crazy. Because
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Speaker 5: you were trying to be that crazy, I think reflects
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Speaker 5: a genuine crazy.
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Speaker 4: Yes, so that in that sense, Yes, it's a put on,
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Speaker 4: but it's not so Oriyan Foreign Minister A Ragchi posted
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Speaker 4: and we can put up this next element. This was
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Speaker 4: his response to the Apache going down. He said, foreign
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Speaker 4: forces in proximity to our territory are at constant risk
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Speaker 4: on account of their own human errors, plane accidents, or
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Speaker 4: potentially being caught in crossfire. To reduce risk, best solution
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Speaker 4: is for them to leave. We prefer language of diplomacy,
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Speaker 4: but speak other languages too. And so here he was
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Speaker 4: he's being a tough guy, but also leaving kind of
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Speaker 4: an opening for Trump at this point to say, okay,
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Speaker 4: this was an accident, like and what he's saying is like,
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Speaker 4: if you don't like these accidents, if you don't want
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Speaker 4: your Apache helicopters crashing into drones and landing in the
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Speaker 4: strait of hermoves and then getting picked up by an
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Speaker 4: autonomous sea drone, then don't have your Apache helicopters flying
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Speaker 4: over the sea of hormones, a strait of hormones, like
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Speaker 4: leave go somewhere else, which there's actually no flaws in
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Speaker 4: that logic, like if you don't have your helicopters in Iran,
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Speaker 4: they won't be crashing. They won't be crashing in Iran.
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Speaker 5: So the question for Trump is obviously what it has been.
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Speaker 5: How much longer is it worth the straight offom moves
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Speaker 5: being closed? Do you escalate or do you de escalate
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Speaker 5: and look like you're taking an l something worse than
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Speaker 5: the JCPOA risk everybody covering it as being worse than
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Speaker 5: the jcpoa risk, Mark Levin breaking off your beautiful budding friendship.
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Speaker 5: That's where he finds himself to the point that you're
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Speaker 5: making about, well, if there are no Apache helicopters in
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Speaker 5: the straight ofform moves, then you won't have any problems
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Speaker 5: in the straight UPOM moves.
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Speaker 1: So part of what Trump has been trying.
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Speaker 5: To avoid is exactly escalatory potential like this, If those
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Speaker 5: pilots had died, what would have come from this week?
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Speaker 5: The week ahead would be very different, of course, would
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Speaker 5: be very different.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like, according to the President's story, that was
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Speaker 1: a rather close call. According to the president's story, we should.
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Speaker 4: Say, although as Mirandi is pointing out, Trump and as
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Speaker 4: old Professor Papal always points out, Trump is not actually
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Speaker 4: totally in control of this, keeps wanting to toggle up
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Speaker 4: and down and back and forth the level of hostility here.
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Speaker 4: But he also doesn't have the ability to control what's
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Speaker 4: going on. And so as Mirandi is saying, Iran is
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Speaker 4: planning a massive regional retaliation for what happened overnight. Now
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Speaker 4: on the point of the naval blockade, and I found this,
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Speaker 4: I can send this to mac Trump says, the fake
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Speaker 4: news media refuses to report how effective the US naval
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Speaker 4: blockade is, the most successful blockade in the history of
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Speaker 4: naval warfare. Nothing gets through unless we want it to.
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Speaker 4: It is a steel wall. Iran is doing zero business,
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Speaker 4: not paying their military or any of their bills, and
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Speaker 4: quickly becoming a failed nation. Lots of oil. Is getting
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Speaker 4: out praise be to allah President Donald J. Trump, And
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Speaker 4: so that's him again celebrating his successes and then adding
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Speaker 4: in a little twist of adding in a little twist
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Speaker 4: of crazy. So the the attacks themselves. Actually you want
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Speaker 4: to talk about a one while I send this to.
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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, well yeah, so actually we're starting with breaking
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Speaker 5: news this morning on the President's comments, but of course
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Speaker 5: what we'd planned to start with is the strikes yesterday,
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Speaker 5: so we can put a one up on the screen.
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Speaker 5: This is from Scentcom posted at five pm last night.
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Speaker 5: US Central Command Forces began launching self defense strikes against
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Speaker 5: Iran at five pm Eastern today at the Commander in
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Speaker 5: Chief's direction, no quote self defense strikes the language there.
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Speaker 5: In response, Com went on to say to yesterday's downing
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Speaker 5: of a US Army Apache helicopter, the mission is a
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Speaker 5: proportional response to unjustified Iranian aggression. And Ryan that language
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Speaker 5: in the last sentence. You've covered this much closer than
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Speaker 5: I have over the years. That's unusual language from Centcom.
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Speaker 5: Is it not to say this is a proportional response
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Speaker 5: to unjustified Iranian aggression? It's very It sort of rereaks
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Speaker 5: of desperation. You're in announcing strikes. You are, as Sentcom,
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Speaker 5: not the president, not a political group, but Sankcom telling
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Speaker 5: you that it is proportional in response to unjustified attacks.
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Speaker 4: Right, which they're right it's it's it's following. It's flowing
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Speaker 4: directly from Trump, where Trump is trying to say, I'm
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Speaker 4: going to hit you. A shot had lodged in between
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Speaker 4: my pilots, and so I'm going to hit you back.
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Speaker 4: But you shouldn't retaliate significantly. You can do a little bit,
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Speaker 4: go hit Kuwait a little bit, but don't. But let's
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Speaker 4: all move on and get back to the deal, get
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Speaker 4: back to the deal making. In fact, we have reports
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Speaker 4: that the Katari negotiators are like on our way right
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Speaker 4: now to Islamabad and maybe we'll get a deal today,
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Speaker 4: Like who knows. But Trump is trying, he's trying desperately
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Speaker 4: to be the madman but also remain in control. But
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Speaker 4: he didn't stop with that first wave of attax. We
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Speaker 4: can put up a one on they launched over night
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Speaker 4: a second and third wave of attacks on the jask
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Speaker 4: Port uh Kueim Obarik drop site reported fresh explosion sounds
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Speaker 4: also reported in syric syric, and we can talk about
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Speaker 4: the water tanks that were hit there. And Iraqi news
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Speaker 4: sources reported large numbers of US fighter jets flying over
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Speaker 4: Iraq near the Iranian border. Then a third wave of
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Speaker 4: strikes went through near Bandera, bas Uh, Kesh, Kesham Island.
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Speaker 4: So hitting all across the kind of western, southern and
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Speaker 4: even see central Iran and hitting hitting tape hitting appear
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Speaker 4: to hit Tehran US as well. We can put up
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Speaker 4: a two the uh in syric. It was reported that
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Speaker 4: two residential water reservoirs were struck. UH. You also you
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Speaker 4: also had in another region of Iran water water tanks,
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Speaker 4: water tanks hit as we just mentioned, so ten minimum
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Speaker 4: tens of thousands of people affected by this. It is
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Speaker 4: it is a war crime of the highest order to
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Speaker 4: hit water infrastructure for obvious reasons. Anybody who is smart
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Speaker 4: enough to have been able to click play on this
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Speaker 4: understands why why that is. And so if you put
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Speaker 4: up a three, Iran you know began retaliating by hitting.
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Speaker 4: So this is so strange, like what are they doing.
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Speaker 4: They're hitting military targets. I thought you're supposed to hit like,
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Speaker 4: you know, the water reservoirs. But strangely, Iran decides to
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Speaker 4: attack the US fifth Fleet base in Bahrain and on
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Speaker 4: other bases across the region. You had at tax reported
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Speaker 4: in Kuwait as well. The Running Armed Forces released in
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Speaker 4: their statement multiple US bases in the region were struck
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Speaker 4: by running army and energies forces. Quote, if the US
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Speaker 4: criminal army repeats its aggression against the Islamic Republic, massive
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Speaker 4: and wider strikes will be carried out against designated targets
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Speaker 4: across the region. That's that's kind of that's kind of
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Speaker 4: where we are with Trump threatening, you know, further further attacks.
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Speaker 4: We can, we can, we can put up a five
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Speaker 4: b actually, Trump threatening further attacks, and then the Iranians
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Speaker 4: saying if if they continue, like, we're prepared to expand
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Speaker 4: this war. Trump uh says, he tells ABC. Quote, somebody
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Speaker 4: is going to have to build all that infrastructure, new bridges,
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Speaker 4: new this, new that, new power plants. They're talking about
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Speaker 4: a trillion dollars as a run, probably more. That's why
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Speaker 4: we'll probably get involved in rebuilding. But we'll get half
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Speaker 4: their oil yep. Okay, so we're gonna get half their oil,
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Speaker 4: and then we're going to rebuild their country. Yep. First
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Speaker 4: we're going to destroy it.
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Speaker 1: Well, Trump's friends are going to rebuild their Trump's friends.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, somehow American people just can't see the wisdom of
20:04
Speaker 4: this and put up a six.
20:05
Speaker 1: What's wrong with you guys?
20:07
Speaker 4: Come on what's wrong with yes. Trump approval stays near
20:10
Speaker 4: record low as Americans expect higher gas prices, and gas
20:14
Speaker 4: prices have been taking down a little bit the last
20:18
Speaker 4: few days, maybe weeks, slightly under for what it's you know,
20:23
Speaker 4: it's I think people are bracing for much worse to come.
20:27
Speaker 4: There we have been, you know, flooding the market with
20:32
Speaker 4: the strategic reserves and drawing down inventories in order to
20:36
Speaker 4: keep prices as low as possible. We can put up
20:38
Speaker 4: a six B just to try to stave off the
20:43
Speaker 4: very worst of this. This is from drop site as well.
20:46
Speaker 4: US crewed inventories fell sharply last week for a combined
20:49
Speaker 4: draw of about seventeen million barrels. According to American Patrollum
20:53
Speaker 4: Institute data, commercial crew drew down nine point one barrels,
20:58
Speaker 4: while the Trump administration released another seven zero point nine
21:00
Speaker 4: million barrels from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. This is way
21:05
Speaker 4: ahead of the of the estimates that you know, the
21:10
Speaker 4: oil analysts have been expecting the draw down to go
21:13
Speaker 4: much much slower the last couple of weeks, and we're
21:17
Speaker 4: drawing down much faster than they expected. You guys can
21:22
Speaker 4: kind of be the judge of whether or not you
21:24
Speaker 4: think that's a good thing or not well.
21:25
Speaker 5: And one thing I wanted to highlight from this Reuter's pole,
21:28
Speaker 5: the Reuter's rite up of a pole, This is a
21:31
Speaker 5: sentence that Trump dreads. Americans are now more dissatisfied with
21:36
Speaker 5: Trump's performance on the issue of cost of living than
21:41
Speaker 5: they were of his Democratic predecessor in office, Joe Biden,
21:43
Speaker 5: who closed out his term with twenty nine percent approval
21:46
Speaker 5: on the cost of living and sixty three percent Trump's
21:50
Speaker 5: Under that, Trump is at thirty five percent of respondents
21:53
Speaker 5: saying they approve of Trump's performance in the White House overall. Now,
21:57
Speaker 5: let's go back to cost of living in particular.
22:00
Speaker 1: Are let's see where it is here.
22:02
Speaker 5: Twenty two percent of Americans approve how Trump is managing
22:04
Speaker 5: the cost of living for you as households, compared to
22:06
Speaker 5: seventy percent disapproval. So again, Biden was at twenty nine
22:09
Speaker 5: percent and sixty three percent disapproval.
22:12
Speaker 1: We're not even in margin of very territory. That's a
22:14
Speaker 1: that's a resounding the pictory for Biden.
22:18
Speaker 4: The people yearn for Bidenomics. Yeah, they've given a dose,
22:22
Speaker 4: given a dose of Trump's I.
22:23
Speaker 5: Think we're still getting a little Bidenomics here, to be.
22:25
Speaker 4: Honest, But which part of the Bidenomics are we getting.
22:29
Speaker 5: I think we still have some inflation from overheated COVID spending,
22:32
Speaker 5: and I think probably some greedflation too. And I think
22:35
Speaker 5: actually what we're probably seeing now Trump nomics is even
22:37
Speaker 5: more greedflation when the prices went up after epic fury.
22:42
Speaker 4: Right, I think I don't know if that's well, none
22:44
Speaker 4: of that is Bidenomics. Well, well, because the spending was
22:47
Speaker 4: both split between Trump and Biden.
22:49
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the Biden the two bills that Biden passed
22:52
Speaker 5: were heavy spenders.
22:54
Speaker 4: That's true, but Trump completely slashed the second one, so
22:58
Speaker 4: Inflation Reduction Act, all of that spending was completely withdrawn.
23:03
Speaker 1: The green energy spending.
23:05
Speaker 4: Which was most of it, was bulk of it.
23:08
Speaker 1: There was a lot of spending.
23:09
Speaker 4: So though I'm going with the war, it's.
23:13
Speaker 1: Clearly the war. To be fair, it's clearly the war.
23:16
Speaker 5: But all I was saying is that there's still some
23:19
Speaker 5: I think there's still some inflation from Biden spending, although
23:21
Speaker 5: actually we'll have inflation data to talk about in the
23:24
Speaker 5: next block. When Biden left office, inflation was lower than
23:31
Speaker 5: it is now, so Trump gets elected again. We're going
23:33
Speaker 5: to talk about this in a second, but just to
23:35
Speaker 5: round this all out, Trump gets elected on a promise
23:37
Speaker 5: to bring down inflation. Well, it had been going down
23:40
Speaker 5: at a rate until the war that was now lower
23:44
Speaker 5: than what it is post war. So there's no question
23:47
Speaker 5: that it is primarily the war. But Ryan and I
23:50
Speaker 5: just debated those stupid little quip that I made something.
23:52
Speaker 5: You get a little extra in this block.
23:56
Speaker 4: Let's move on to prices. Let's do it. So we
24:02
Speaker 4: did want to get to this extraordinarily disturbing story emerging
24:06
Speaker 4: out of Israelian occupied territories. You may recall that recently
24:15
Speaker 4: a seven month old baby was killed by IDF soldiers.
24:20
Speaker 4: And actually, let's start with so that people have the
24:24
Speaker 4: IDF's context. Let's start with their statement. That would be
24:29
Speaker 4: a eight, because then we're going we now have video
24:32
Speaker 4: of what actually happened. So here's what the IDF had
24:34
Speaker 4: said on June fifth, earlier today, during operational activity in
24:38
Speaker 4: the area of Hebron, IDF soldiers perceived a vehicle accelerating
24:43
Speaker 4: toward them. Got that an IDF soldier responded with single shots.
24:48
Speaker 4: We're inventing new phrases here. Single shots toward the vehicle.
24:53
Speaker 4: As a result, three Palestinians were injured and evacuated for
24:57
Speaker 4: medical treatment. Strongly suggests that the Israeli soldiers had something
25:04
Speaker 4: to do with this evacuation. By the way, an initial
25:07
Speaker 4: inquiry inquiry is an interesting word. Found that those injured
25:12
Speaker 4: were uninvolved civilians. The incident is under review and the
25:17
Speaker 4: findings will be submitted for review by the relevant authorities.
25:21
Speaker 4: The last line is how you know when you're reading
25:23
Speaker 4: these statements, that's something very dark happened. The IDF expresses
25:28
Speaker 4: deep sorrow for any harm caused to uninvolved individuals. Immediately,
25:33
Speaker 4: the reports were that they had shot and killed a
25:35
Speaker 4: seven month old baby. Bets Alem, the Israeli Human Rights
25:39
Speaker 4: organization has since obtained two videos of this attack. And
25:46
Speaker 4: so let's take a look at the footage that Betsalem
25:49
Speaker 4: has obtained. And so there you see the car that
25:52
Speaker 4: was quote unquote perceived to be accelerating toward them. It's
25:56
Speaker 4: nowhere near them when you see the soldier opened fire
26:01
Speaker 4: on it. And there you can see the father holding
26:08
Speaker 4: his murdered son in the street and then in the hospital.
26:12
Speaker 4: And here is Sam, this is this is young, this
26:16
Speaker 4: is young Sammy before he was he was killed. The
26:21
Speaker 4: id F has since told Israeli media that these were
26:25
Speaker 4: young Israeli soldiers. Another thing, as if that that somehow
26:31
Speaker 4: exonerates the what's going on. Another thing you noticed in
26:35
Speaker 4: that video is the complete lack of assistance. What you
26:42
Speaker 4: immediately notice, of course, is a soldier opening fire into
26:48
Speaker 4: a car with a family, a mom, a dad, and
26:52
Speaker 4: a baby and killing the baby, which has to reflect
26:57
Speaker 4: an extraordinary amount of dehumanization going on between the people
27:01
Speaker 4: on either side of that wall. The fact that there
27:06
Speaker 4: was no attempt to help them immediately, like you don't.
27:11
Speaker 4: Did you see any Israeli paramedics, Israeli soldiers anywhere near
27:16
Speaker 4: the baby? Is his life bled out of him? No,
27:19
Speaker 4: you did not. They just kept it moving. There have
27:26
Speaker 4: been no arrests made here for up to me, everyone
27:29
Speaker 4: in the chain of command would be under arrest and
27:33
Speaker 4: held without bond, top to bottom involved with this. This
27:37
Speaker 4: is five days ago, they knew this happened. I made
27:42
Speaker 4: the point also that Israeli American police forces, I don't
27:49
Speaker 4: know that they've killed a seven month old baby and forever,
27:54
Speaker 4: but when they kill when American police officers were ice
28:00
Speaker 4: officials or deep or CVP. If they kill an American citizen,
28:05
Speaker 4: there are enormous protests in the streets. Twenty twenty saw
28:10
Speaker 4: riots across the country or the killing of a grown
28:15
Speaker 4: man is Israeli forces kill a baby and there are
28:25
Speaker 4: a handful of people that you'll see protests, perhaps one
28:30
Speaker 4: or two maybe was standing together. But where's the outcry,
28:37
Speaker 4: like your country does this and you're okay with it.
28:42
Speaker 4: Your country does this and doesn't arrest the people involved
28:45
Speaker 4: and you're okay with that.
28:45
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I think that's actually the critical point, as
28:48
Speaker 5: you can make the argument that tragic mistakes happen.
28:54
Speaker 1: That's they could be making.
28:55
Speaker 4: That argument, and let them make it in court, right.
28:59
Speaker 5: Exactly right, and again, like you can make the argument
29:02
Speaker 5: that we took all the precautions, we followed all of
29:05
Speaker 5: the relevant salient, relevant statutes, and just this tragic, tragic
29:11
Speaker 5: error happened. And what did they say after Shrinabu Akla
29:16
Speaker 5: was killed. Well, but eventually, after it took a long
29:19
Speaker 5: long time, eventually I think they.
29:21
Speaker 1: Said something like they.
29:23
Speaker 5: Were conciliatory in one way or another, but nobody's actually
29:27
Speaker 5: being and actually somewhat similar in that case, but here.
29:32
Speaker 5: It looks like no disciplinary proceedings so.
29:34
Speaker 4: Far, no, no nothing. And Hebron is that this is
29:39
Speaker 4: the famous town where Americans go there all the time
29:43
Speaker 4: and come back deeply radicalized by what they've seen. It's
29:47
Speaker 4: one of because there are checkpoints everywhere, and Jewish Israelis
29:52
Speaker 4: are allowed to move around to different areas that Palestinians
29:54
Speaker 4: are not allowed to move around to. There are homes
29:57
Speaker 4: where you're only allowed to enter from one direction, you know,
30:00
Speaker 4: the doors are barred on the other side. They're homes
30:04
Speaker 4: where their entire streets where the Jewish Israeli homes are
30:09
Speaker 4: on top. And the Palestinians have had to put netting
30:13
Speaker 4: up along all of their alleys because to stop to
30:17
Speaker 4: catch the trash that just they're just constantly throwing trash.
30:23
Speaker 4: It's it's this deeply militarized occupied area and so these
30:29
Speaker 4: soldiers are not remotely at risk at anyway, because like
30:32
Speaker 4: the place is so thoroughly locked down in such a
30:36
Speaker 4: dystopian way that they was saying people go there and
30:39
Speaker 4: going there is the thing. That's where Tanahasi Coats went
30:43
Speaker 4: and described like having the bailifted before this is completely insane.
30:48
Speaker 4: So that's that's where this was. They're not at risk
30:51
Speaker 4: from anybody there, let alone from a seven month old
30:53
Speaker 4: baby and his parents driving slowly in the street. These
31:01
Speaker 4: soldiers clearly felt they could do this and get away
31:05
Speaker 4: with it.
31:05
Speaker 1: And we'll see so far looking like that's possible.
31:11
Speaker 5: In more bad news, we should take a look care
31:13
Speaker 5: at the economy because CPI number just dropped, Ryan, the
31:18
Speaker 5: much awaited CPI inflation number just dropped.
31:22
Speaker 1: We have it for you here. We could put the
31:23
Speaker 1: new element up on the screen.
31:24
Speaker 5: Inflation, according to CNBC, accelerated in May as rising energy
31:28
Speaker 5: costs contributed to pain for consumers, though underlying pressures were
31:33
Speaker 5: less intense. The Consumer Price Index, which as CNBC is
31:36
Speaker 5: describing here as a broad gauge of goods and services
31:38
Speaker 5: costs across the US economy, rose at a seasonally adjusted
31:41
Speaker 5: point five percent for the month, putting the annual inflation
31:43
Speaker 5: rate at four point two percent. According to the BLS
31:49
Speaker 5: report that was released this morning, both numbers were in
31:52
Speaker 5: line with the Dow Drones consensus. CNBC ads inflation climbed
31:55
Speaker 5: above four percent for the first time in three years.
31:58
Speaker 5: Where does that put us right back in the pandemic era?
32:01
Speaker 5: Ryan and CNBC says the increased met expectations amid concerns
32:05
Speaker 5: over how much the surge and energy prices would impact
32:08
Speaker 5: the economy. The level was the highest since April twenty
32:11
Speaker 5: twenty three, and above the three point eight percent level
32:14
Speaker 5: from April.
32:16
Speaker 4: I just can't put into words the depth of my
32:19
Speaker 4: hatred for Trump at this point. He did this one
32:23
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty percent on his own, Like he inherited
32:26
Speaker 4: an economy that was improving.
32:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, he.
32:31
Speaker 4: Inherited inflation that was coming down. He interest rates were
32:36
Speaker 4: coming down, mortgage rates were coming down. Stock market doing well,
32:41
Speaker 4: stock market is still doing well. It won't be great today, probably,
32:46
Speaker 4: And he just did this for no reason or for
32:50
Speaker 4: Nenyahu whatever.
32:52
Speaker 5: Yeah, the future sliding as we speak.
32:57
Speaker 4: And so the times right up of this has some
33:00
Speaker 4: other like it's bad at the top line is bad,
33:03
Speaker 4: you go even, you go second, the third line, four line,
33:06
Speaker 4: they're all bad. They finish their kind of blog posts
33:10
Speaker 4: update the main factor keeping a lid on prices, So
33:12
Speaker 4: it would be much worse consumers who have by now
33:17
Speaker 4: spent their tax refunds and have lately seen smaller increases
33:20
Speaker 4: in their paychecks. So just to explain what they mean
33:23
Speaker 4: by that the main thing keeping prices down from where
33:29
Speaker 4: they would otherwise be is that you don't have any money.
33:33
Speaker 4: And because you don't have any money, you can't pay
33:37
Speaker 4: these high prices. So businesses can't charge the prices that
33:42
Speaker 4: they need or want to keep up with the pressures
33:46
Speaker 4: that they're under. So a bunch of them are just
33:48
Speaker 4: going to go under. Some of them won't be able
33:51
Speaker 4: to do their greedflation as much as they would like
33:53
Speaker 4: to otherwise. But this is what's known in economics as
33:57
Speaker 4: quote demand destruction by saying, one way to keep inflation
34:03
Speaker 4: down is to make sure that there are more poor people.
34:06
Speaker 4: And because if there's more poor people, there's fewer people
34:08
Speaker 4: in line at the shop, Fewer people in line the shop,
34:11
Speaker 4: shopkeeper can't raise their prices as much as they want.
34:14
Speaker 5: So when Trump took office, CPI was at three percent,
34:19
Speaker 5: so January twenty.
34:20
Speaker 4: Twenty five, heading down.
34:22
Speaker 1: Heading down, so it goes down.
34:24
Speaker 5: It jumped a little bit after quote Liberation Day, but
34:27
Speaker 5: really only back up to two point seven to two
34:29
Speaker 5: point nine percent.
34:31
Speaker 1: January twenty twenty.
34:32
Speaker 5: Six, CPI is at two point four percent two point
34:37
Speaker 5: four percent.
34:38
Speaker 4: What happened in February. What did Trump do in February. Yeah,
34:41
Speaker 4: oh yeah, that's right, he bombed a run.
34:44
Speaker 5: YEP, two point four percent in February twenty twenty six,
34:48
Speaker 5: January twenty twenty six. By March, it's climbing to three
34:52
Speaker 5: point three right now, four point two. As a reminder,
34:55
Speaker 5: three percent is where it was when President Trump took
34:58
Speaker 5: office in January of twenty twenty. This is SCNBC noted
35:01
Speaker 5: the highest since April of twenty twenty three, which is
35:04
Speaker 5: right as we were coming down from the pandemic high
35:07
Speaker 5: in June of twenty twenty two, CPI was at nine
35:10
Speaker 5: point one percent, so.
35:11
Speaker 1: Climbing back up.
35:12
Speaker 5: But actually, if you go historically without the pandemic, the
35:16
Speaker 5: CPI hasn't been at four point two percent again, excluding
35:19
Speaker 5: the pandemic, for a very eighty, very long time. I'm
35:23
Speaker 5: going back here to post recession. It's looking like, yeah,
35:28
Speaker 5: middle of the recession, we got up to five percent
35:30
Speaker 5: June two eight.
35:32
Speaker 4: The other thing that the report makes clear is that
35:34
Speaker 4: Trump's other policy, which is to just flood money to AI,
35:39
Speaker 4: is also driving up prices all over the place in
35:42
Speaker 4: the obvious way, driving up your utility bills, your electric bills,
35:47
Speaker 4: but also for decades, what we've experienced as consumers is
35:52
Speaker 4: the cost of technology going down. Can you know your
35:55
Speaker 4: TV's come out? Wow, that's cool. I can't afford it.
35:58
Speaker 4: I'll wait a year or two, So the price of
36:00
Speaker 4: that comes way down. That's been, it's been what's going on.
36:04
Speaker 4: But because the AI build out is putting such pressure
36:08
Speaker 4: on chips, the price of the chips that underline all
36:12
Speaker 4: of these consumer products is going way up. And so
36:15
Speaker 4: now according to this report, you're seeing that that one
36:20
Speaker 4: thing we'd kind of come to say, all right, everything sucks,
36:23
Speaker 4: and this is what you hear from like the Matty
36:25
Speaker 4: Glacis Is of the world that yes, okay, a lot
36:27
Speaker 4: of things are bad, but you've got like a fifty
36:30
Speaker 4: five inch TV and you didn't pay much for it.
36:33
Speaker 4: Isn't that cool? Even that is going away? Yeah, because
36:36
Speaker 4: the price of the chips inside that fifty five inch
36:38
Speaker 4: TV are driving up the price of that that TV.
36:40
Speaker 4: So even the little treats they give you to try
36:43
Speaker 4: to compensate for the collapse of everything else, those are
36:48
Speaker 4: going up.
36:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, And let's put up on the screen the Apple
36:52
Speaker 5: dip yesterday. This is going to be B two so
36:55
Speaker 5: Apple reveals actually an anthropical revealed fable. Yes, Apple reveals
37:01
Speaker 5: its new serie AI, also much awaited, and Apple shares
37:06
Speaker 5: were sliding. According to CNBC yesterday, it's sort of a dud,
37:10
Speaker 5: people felt like, but it was a reminder Ryan that
37:13
Speaker 5: some thirty percent of the S and P five hundred
37:15
Speaker 5: is based on mag seven stocks. And we've had Jo
37:19
Speaker 5: Braun to talk about this from a head of the CFPB.
37:22
Speaker 5: This is a really, really, really shaky economy, and to
37:25
Speaker 5: this question of the Trump administration's accelerationism on AI. I
37:30
Speaker 5: was at a pen and pad with Senator Rick Scott
37:32
Speaker 5: earlier this week and he was expressing if people were
37:35
Speaker 5: asking him about AI. He was wearing a pin on
37:37
Speaker 5: his lapel that said jobs. So he was getting asked
37:40
Speaker 5: questions by the other journalists in the room about if
37:43
Speaker 5: he's worried on that AI will cause a huge white
37:47
Speaker 5: pot of jobs. He said he thinks that's all kind
37:49
Speaker 5: of alarmist and that technology always creates jobs. It all
37:54
Speaker 5: comes out in the wash, that sort of thing. And
37:56
Speaker 5: so I then asked him, aren't we in a trap then,
38:00
Speaker 5: So if this is such a huge part of the
38:02
Speaker 5: market that's predicated on Dario Ammaday's basically promised to take
38:07
Speaker 5: out fifty percent of white collar jobs in the next
38:09
Speaker 5: several years. Are we either in for mass layoffs or
38:13
Speaker 5: a stock market crash? And he said, quote unquote, there's
38:17
Speaker 5: no logic to the explosion in AI stocks, So, I said,
38:21
Speaker 5: is Trump putting us further into the bubble? He said, quote,
38:24
Speaker 5: I think the difference is probably I wouldn't be talking.
38:27
Speaker 1: About it in my life.
38:28
Speaker 5: I can talk about jobs, right, I can talk about
38:30
Speaker 5: schools and talk about something. I can measure the fact
38:31
Speaker 5: that the market's trading at all time highs. I'm going
38:33
Speaker 5: to say, man, I'm not doing that.
38:37
Speaker 1: It did not make me feel any better whatsoever about
38:40
Speaker 1: the state of the economy. He goes.
38:41
Speaker 5: I ran a public company. Your stock is tied to
38:43
Speaker 5: what people think it's worth, not necessarily what it's worth now.
38:45
Speaker 5: As an investor, I can put a value on it
38:47
Speaker 5: until comfortable. Over a period of time, I can make money.
38:49
Speaker 5: I'm not buying something at fifty times earnings. How many
38:52
Speaker 5: things really keep growing at fifty times earnings?
38:54
Speaker 1: Not many. So SpaceX is going to be worth one
38:56
Speaker 1: point eight trillion, right, I think the revenues are like
38:59
Speaker 1: four or five billion dollars in revenues. And we could
39:01
Speaker 1: get into.
39:02
Speaker 4: That, but and who is this again, Rick Scott?
39:03
Speaker 5: Rick Scott, Senator Scott who's been bringing in some of
39:06
Speaker 5: these tech giants to talk to Republican Senators and get
39:10
Speaker 5: them to ask questions back and forth with one another.
39:13
Speaker 1: So has been studying the issue, we'll say.
39:16
Speaker 4: And so, while while energy prices are surging, I wanted
39:20
Speaker 4: to highlight one thing put up before here. This is
39:23
Speaker 4: a new report out this morning from the Solar Energy
39:26
Speaker 4: Industries Association, which is the trade group that represents the
39:31
Speaker 4: solar industry. As you know, Biden put tons of money
39:36
Speaker 4: into the clean energy market, kickstarted that thing. Trump ripped
39:43
Speaker 4: it all out, saying no, like he doesn't like clean energy,
39:46
Speaker 4: he wants he likes the dirty stuff. That's America's future
39:51
Speaker 4: is in oil and gas. And that is going to
39:54
Speaker 4: be our critical advantage against these other countries like China
39:59
Speaker 4: that are run by ummies who have been fooled by
40:02
Speaker 4: this clean energy thing. So ripped away all of the subsidies.
40:06
Speaker 4: So it's a you know, straight up just market question
40:11
Speaker 4: of how much you know, what is what is utility?
40:15
Speaker 4: What is a resident what does a residential home. What
40:18
Speaker 4: does what does a company want to do when it
40:19
Speaker 4: comes to building out energy? So let's let's see if
40:24
Speaker 4: the dummies were right or wrong. Well, we do see, indeed,
40:28
Speaker 4: a twenty seven percent decline year over year in installation
40:33
Speaker 4: of solar and a forty two decline compared with Q
40:39
Speaker 4: four of twenty twenty five. Okay, so solar installation is
40:43
Speaker 4: going down. But what do we see Ninety one percent
40:48
Speaker 4: of all new electricity generating capacity added in the first
40:53
Speaker 4: quarter was solar.
40:54
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
40:56
Speaker 4: So people are getting we're saying here right. So they
41:01
Speaker 4: stripped away all the subsidies. They succeeded in harming the
41:06
Speaker 4: industry such that we are installing much less solar than
41:10
Speaker 4: we would be otherwise, and that we were when it
41:12
Speaker 4: was when there were credits and other incentives to do it.
41:16
Speaker 4: Yet we're still not doing anything but solar because solar
41:21
Speaker 4: is cheaper. And I don't know what part of this
41:26
Speaker 4: Trump doesn't understand. This is the first quarter, by the way,
41:29
Speaker 4: which you just you read the numbers off, inflation was low,
41:34
Speaker 4: we were not at war with Iran. We entered war
41:37
Speaker 4: with Iran in the the final month of the first quarter,
41:40
Speaker 4: but for most of it. We were not at war
41:42
Speaker 4: with Iran, we had not destroyed the fist Behinney. So
41:45
Speaker 4: even then, ninety one percent of new electricity was solar
41:52
Speaker 4: and that and that's solar and battery storage, so it's
41:57
Speaker 4: not just soldar, but the battery storage is related either
41:59
Speaker 4: to end or solar effectively. And so I would imagine
42:06
Speaker 4: that the second quarter is going to see ninety eight percent.
42:09
Speaker 4: Like who out there is like, you know what we
42:11
Speaker 4: need to do. We need to invest deeply in building
42:14
Speaker 4: out our fossil fuel infrastructure at this point.
42:16
Speaker 5: So great job Trump, crazy bang up job creat I mean,
42:24
Speaker 5: that's nobody is talking about that.
42:26
Speaker 1: It's super interesting.
42:27
Speaker 4: I ran into this solar person at the event I.
42:30
Speaker 1: Was going to ask you to last night. Sounds like
42:32
Speaker 1: something that someone was like, hey, you should look into this.
42:34
Speaker 1: And indeed, Ryan.
42:35
Speaker 4: Linkedn Emily and I were supposed to meet up at
42:38
Speaker 4: a right wing substack event last night.
42:40
Speaker 1: It was not a right wing No, it wasn't we
42:44
Speaker 1: determined this we were.
42:45
Speaker 4: It was right wings. They didn't invite me. I just
42:47
Speaker 4: crashed and I was.
42:47
Speaker 5: Like you can have Thomas Pain, yeah, but get your job.
42:51
Speaker 5: Site crew was there, and I know I assumed.
42:52
Speaker 1: It was was right wing too, but it was not anyway.
42:55
Speaker 5: Anywhere you see a f founding father impersonator, you usually say, oh,
42:59
Speaker 5: this has got to be right wing, but it was.
43:00
Speaker 1: Actually it was kind of like a Georgetown set, unusual
43:02
Speaker 1: scene for us.
43:04
Speaker 4: So I met Jacob from TMZ. That was very cool.
43:06
Speaker 4: I love that.
43:07
Speaker 1: I'm so jealous. I'm so jealous.
43:10
Speaker 4: But also met the Solar person who I had known before.
43:12
Speaker 4: But she's like, hey, we have this report coming out
43:14
Speaker 4: tonight if you want to see it. There you go like,
43:17
Speaker 4: just wild.
43:17
Speaker 1: This is why we go to these things.
43:18
Speaker 4: That's right, and we do it for you. We do
43:20
Speaker 4: it for you.
43:20
Speaker 5: We drink the free beer for you. All right, let's
43:22
Speaker 5: move on to the election results.
43:27
Speaker 4: Oystermen in combat veteran Graham Platner trounced sitting Governor Janet
43:33
Speaker 4: Mills in the main election last night, winning the Democratic primary.
43:37
Speaker 4: With most of the votes counted at this point, Platner
43:41
Speaker 4: is sitting at seventy two percent of the vote against
43:44
Speaker 4: Mills with twenty percent, who had suspended her campaign and
43:49
Speaker 4: also ran candidate picked up eight percent as well. Graham
43:53
Speaker 4: Platner with a rather energetic speech last night, and I
43:58
Speaker 4: think you could call it it's a banger.
43:59
Speaker 7: It was.
44:00
Speaker 4: It was filled with bars. Went hard at his Susan Collins,
44:04
Speaker 4: who will be his Republican opponent and also address some
44:08
Speaker 4: of his controversies. Let's listen to a little bit of
44:10
Speaker 4: Plantner here last night.
44:11
Speaker 7: I am a son of rural Maine. I was a
44:14
Speaker 7: kid who picked blueberries under the July sun, and then
44:17
Speaker 7: one day I was a kid who signed up and
44:20
Speaker 7: left to fight for his country. And when I returned,
44:24
Speaker 7: I carried with me the weight of forever wars and
44:28
Speaker 7: the struggle and the alienation that came with it. But
44:32
Speaker 7: I am also a lucky one who found his way back,
44:37
Speaker 7: who found a living on the scene and a home
44:41
Speaker 7: and the community that offered love and redemption. Redemption is
44:47
Speaker 7: not just some simple or easy destination.
44:50
Speaker 4: It's a journey.
44:52
Speaker 7: I've made mistakes in my life, mistakes that I regret
44:55
Speaker 7: that I live with and I continue to learn from.
44:59
Speaker 7: And I'm still far from perfect. But every day I
45:03
Speaker 7: wake up and I try to be a little bit
45:05
Speaker 7: better and a little bit kinder than I was the
45:08
Speaker 7: day before. And if you give me the chance, I
45:12
Speaker 7: will be a senator for the people who cannot afford
45:15
Speaker 7: to buy a senator, I will stand up for you
45:31
Speaker 7: and against billionaires and greedy corporations. I will serve you
45:40
Speaker 7: the people of May, not some lobbyist or party boss.
45:44
Speaker 7: I will be the champion for your dreams as if
45:49
Speaker 7: it were my own, no matter the challenge or the expense,
45:54
Speaker 7: I will fight for you. I have been willing to
46:02
Speaker 7: die for my country. There is nothing that I will
46:06
Speaker 7: not do for the state of Maine.
46:13
Speaker 4: And at another point, Emily, but first of all, how
46:15
Speaker 4: has nobody used that line before? That is a bar
46:18
Speaker 4: which one I am. I will be a senator for
46:21
Speaker 4: people who cannot afford to buy one.
46:22
Speaker 1: That was the I thought that was the best line too.
46:25
Speaker 4: What a line.
46:25
Speaker 1: It's fantastic.
46:28
Speaker 4: He also talked a lot about Susan Collins, how her husband,
46:32
Speaker 4: who's who was a lobbyists and she had gotten extraordinarily wealthy,
46:36
Speaker 4: and then he had this refrain where he took he said,
46:39
Speaker 4: he's it rhymes with what Trump has said on the
46:42
Speaker 4: on the on the campaign trail, which is that the
46:46
Speaker 4: mainstream media keeps looking for that one story, that one
46:50
Speaker 4: headline that is going to take him out. But he
46:53
Speaker 4: said they've spent so much time trying to figure me out.
46:57
Speaker 4: What they don't understand is it's not about me. Yes,
46:59
Speaker 4: it's about all.
46:59
Speaker 1: Of which is Trumpian.
47:00
Speaker 4: By the way, the Trumpian line version is they're not
47:03
Speaker 4: coming after me, They're coming after you, but I'm standing
47:05
Speaker 4: in the way.
47:06
Speaker 1: Exactly.
47:07
Speaker 4: It's a similar but it's it's a little more US like. Interestingly,
47:11
Speaker 4: it's like Trump is a little more right codeed to
47:13
Speaker 4: me and the you, and he's a little more left
47:16
Speaker 4: code with the US. But otherwise it's the same concept.
47:18
Speaker 5: Yes, the point is you see me as a vehicle
47:21
Speaker 5: to advance your interests, not corpuses.
47:24
Speaker 4: So today, and that's why they're coming after.
47:25
Speaker 5: Me exactly, that I'm essentially a pawn in the effort
47:29
Speaker 5: to take you down, to undermine you. And so the
47:32
Speaker 5: NC National Republican Senatorial Committee put out a memo that
47:36
Speaker 5: looks like they gave it to Politico this morning, saying
47:39
Speaker 5: that Maine is now the lynchpin. That is the quote
47:42
Speaker 5: they used, Maine is the lynch pin. They say Democrats
47:45
Speaker 5: cannot win the majority without it. That's not necessarily true.
47:48
Speaker 5: They could potentially do Ohio, they could potentially do Texas.
47:53
Speaker 1: When they could do Ohio, Texas North.
47:56
Speaker 5: Carolina, which is not out of the question at all
47:59
Speaker 5: in the Bras, but that would be unusual. So yeah,
48:02
Speaker 5: they probably do need main not impossible without it. But again,
48:05
Speaker 5: NERRC this morning saying that this race is the lynchpin quote.
48:09
Speaker 5: Grand Platner is the most left wing Senate nominee Maine
48:11
Speaker 5: has ever seen.
48:12
Speaker 1: That might be true.
48:13
Speaker 5: His platform aligns directly with national progressives, featuring Medicare for all,
48:17
Speaker 5: green new Deal, universal basic income, government funded universal childcare,
48:20
Speaker 5: free college, and a wide up and pathway to citizenship
48:22
Speaker 5: for illegal immigrants. You can see what in this race
48:27
Speaker 5: they're now pivoting to, which is not Nazi stuff. Now
48:32
Speaker 5: they are talking about the kind of nuts.
48:34
Speaker 1: And bolts which they were not before.
48:36
Speaker 5: I think it signals that they're pretty scared of grand
48:38
Speaker 5: Platner at this point.
48:39
Speaker 4: I was always the most concerned when it came to
48:43
Speaker 4: his chances of exactly that that he actually is like
48:48
Speaker 4: super populist and progressive.
48:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is far left, it's fair to say.
48:53
Speaker 4: But and so that would have been to me, the
48:56
Speaker 4: smart line of attack from Mills and Mills, from Collins,
49:01
Speaker 4: from Republicans. Instead, they've spent the last several months calling
49:06
Speaker 4: him Uh an abuser, ah, a nazi, A like fake
49:16
Speaker 4: working class guy like going after and and a lot
49:21
Speaker 4: of the arguments, particularly calling him a nazi, cut against
49:25
Speaker 4: that he's a left winger. So yeah, main voters like,
49:29
Speaker 4: wait a minute, you spent the last several months telling
49:31
Speaker 4: us he's a nazi. You're a bunch of your online
49:34
Speaker 4: people are still calling him a nazi and are gonna
49:37
Speaker 4: call him a Nazi for months to come. But he's
49:40
Speaker 4: also too far left wing. You say he hates women,
49:44
Speaker 4: but he's too far left wing right Like it's so
49:47
Speaker 4: they're there, they're attacks, they're inconsistent, contradictory attacks, cut against
49:54
Speaker 4: them being able to marshal uh straightforward message. Plus yes,
49:59
Speaker 4: like he's backing that kind of list of Bernie Sanders things,
50:03
Speaker 4: and Bernie Sanders backs him. When he talks, he talks
50:07
Speaker 4: in economic populism. Yes, yes, he doesn't talk in cultural
50:11
Speaker 4: like whatever you want to call it.
50:13
Speaker 5: He pivots cultural issues, which will be I think, I
50:15
Speaker 5: do think will be difficult for him because the trans
50:18
Speaker 5: participation in sports has been a big issue in Maine.
50:21
Speaker 1: I think there's currently a bill in Maine on that.
50:24
Speaker 5: So he's going to have to right because she took
50:28
Speaker 5: on Trump over the issue as she saw it, and
50:30
Speaker 5: so it's going to come up. I don't know that
50:32
Speaker 5: Susan CON's necessarily wants to lean into it either.
50:34
Speaker 1: Susan Conn's shies.
50:36
Speaker 5: Away from those issues for the most part, but he'll
50:39
Speaker 5: be asked about it, and he always pivots. He actually
50:42
Speaker 5: has good lines that I disagree with, but I think
50:43
Speaker 5: they're good lines, pivoting it back to the economy. Every
50:46
Speaker 5: time culture comes up, he says, literally, billionaires are the
50:49
Speaker 5: reason you're asking me this question right when reporters ask
50:52
Speaker 5: him the question, which is a very good line of reflection.
50:55
Speaker 5: Disagree with it, but it is very good. Let's take
50:57
Speaker 5: a look at AOC and before that.
51:00
Speaker 4: Before we get to that, let's get to the Mills Mafia.
51:02
Speaker 1: The Mills mafia.
51:03
Speaker 4: The Mills Mafia was out and forced at the Nathan
51:07
Speaker 4: Bernard drops like correspondent went to two different polling locations,
51:11
Speaker 4: one in Augusta one in Waterville. Actually, he talked to
51:14
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty one voters and just for fun,
51:17
Speaker 4: we did an exit poll and he nailed it. It
51:22
Speaker 4: was it's kind of wild. We didn't call it scientific
51:26
Speaker 4: because it's only two different polling locations, and you got
51:28
Speaker 4: to do the whole state, you got to do a
51:30
Speaker 4: bigger sample. But his numbers were within like the margin
51:34
Speaker 4: of error of what of what the actual voters across
51:39
Speaker 4: the state did. Here's one of his interviews with a
51:42
Speaker 4: He talked with a decent number of Janet Mills voters.
51:45
Speaker 4: But here's here's one of them. And I think we
51:47
Speaker 4: forget that this is how a decent number of Americans
51:50
Speaker 4: kind of approach voting. Let's roll see five Senate.
51:59
Speaker 8: That was Platner and oh okay, thank you, I need that.
52:05
Speaker 9: Mills and Flatiner, Platiner.
52:10
Speaker 8: So you ranked Mills first, yes, okay, and then for governor,
52:14
Speaker 8: do you remember go with the lists again, that was
52:18
Speaker 8: Narav Shaw. You had Troy Jackson, you had Chili Pingree,
52:22
Speaker 8: I mean Hannah Pingree, Shanna Bellows.
52:25
Speaker 10: Hannah Shaw and Troy laughed.
52:32
Speaker 4: So when people look at the twenty percent that Mills
52:35
Speaker 4: took home some yeah, you know, people who hate Platner
52:41
Speaker 4: are going to look at that and you're like to see,
52:42
Speaker 4: she dropped out and she still got twenty percent. Right,
52:45
Speaker 4: she's the sitting governor, and like just through inertia, you're
52:49
Speaker 4: going to get some set of people voting. And the
52:53
Speaker 4: reason he named them both is that Maine has ranked
52:55
Speaker 4: choice voting, so he ranked Mills first and then Platner,
53:00
Speaker 4: and the platter doesn't vote doesn't count because he got
53:03
Speaker 4: more than well, actually, I guess it in the rank
53:06
Speaker 4: choice voting that will count because she finished under fifty percent.
53:09
Speaker 1: It sucks.
53:10
Speaker 5: Sorry, we should have that debate sometimes.
53:14
Speaker 4: Interesting. Yeah, anyway, so you were saying.
53:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a look care at AOC. This is
53:18
Speaker 1: C three.
53:19
Speaker 5: Here's how she reacted amidst all of the controversies of
53:23
Speaker 5: the last several days.
53:24
Speaker 4: C three.
53:25
Speaker 9: When it comes to the substance of this reporting.
53:28
Speaker 11: Obviously, there's a lot in that behavior that's really challenging.
53:32
Speaker 9: It's hard to stomach, you know, in some of it.
53:35
Speaker 1: But but.
53:38
Speaker 9: At the end of the day, I think that this
53:41
Speaker 9: is a choice.
53:42
Speaker 11: If the choice on the ballance between that and a
53:45
Speaker 11: centator who's voted to take health care away from millions
53:48
Speaker 11: of Americans, that's the situation that we have to weigh.
53:52
Speaker 4: What say you, Ryan, Well, the body language there is interesting.
53:55
Speaker 4: She's she's sort of like physically recoiling it. The like
53:59
Speaker 4: thought of Platinner.
54:00
Speaker 5: It seems like, yeah, that was an interview with CNN outside.
54:03
Speaker 4: The capitol, and you know, so she has not endorsed
54:08
Speaker 4: and in this in this race. Yeah, and so I
54:12
Speaker 4: guess she can't endorse in the primary. Clearly, what she's
54:15
Speaker 4: saying there is she didn't even come out and say
54:17
Speaker 4: she would support Platner against Collins. She would, she implied,
54:20
Speaker 4: She implied that she would, and she's like, I guess
54:22
Speaker 4: this is what we what we have to do. It's
54:25
Speaker 4: a little reminiscent of the fascinating interview that Crystal did
54:29
Speaker 4: with Chris rab the DSA Justice Democrats backed democrat who's
54:35
Speaker 4: going to represent Philadelphia. If people haven't watched that, they
54:38
Speaker 4: should go watch it. We don't like our candidate interviews.
54:41
Speaker 4: If you go to YouTube, in particular, interviews with candidates
54:44
Speaker 4: will get like seventy percent less.
54:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it feels localized than typical.
54:51
Speaker 4: So the algorithm probably didn't show that one to you,
54:54
Speaker 4: So go find It's a really interesting and a lot
54:58
Speaker 4: of people were dunking all over Chris Rab for I Actually,
55:01
Speaker 4: I think this is an important and needed conversation to have.
55:06
Speaker 4: That's one reason I'm glad that Platner's in the race
55:09
Speaker 4: because he's forcing this conversation and you can't I don't
55:13
Speaker 4: think you can kind of force people can't force it
55:17
Speaker 4: back in. But what you can do is have that
55:19
Speaker 4: conversation and talk to me like, why are people so
55:23
Speaker 4: passionately supportive of platinir it out and then get from
55:26
Speaker 4: people like why do you hate him so much? Like
55:29
Speaker 4: what is it like? Because for Rabbit it and for
55:33
Speaker 4: I think a lot of others, it's it's just esthetics.
55:36
Speaker 4: It's like that he looks like somebody they don't like.
55:39
Speaker 1: I think that's correct.
55:40
Speaker 4: I mean, that's why I want that conversation because I
55:42
Speaker 4: feel like we can maybe break through.
55:44
Speaker 5: It's a great conversation for you in particular to have
55:47
Speaker 5: because we've been talking about this for.
55:48
Speaker 4: A long time and it's a flip side of Back
55:51
Speaker 4: in the early twenty tens, Yeah, in two thousands, when
55:56
Speaker 4: the gay rights movement was gaining steam, what the barnment,
56:02
Speaker 4: What people discovered is that you've got a gay uncle.
56:06
Speaker 4: You're like you actually, once people started coming out of
56:08
Speaker 4: the closet and Andrew argument, Yeah, once people started coming
56:11
Speaker 4: out of the class like, oh oh that guy's gay.
56:13
Speaker 4: I love the guy. He's great. And my life is
56:15
Speaker 4: fine around him. This is the reverse for liberals. It's like,
56:21
Speaker 4: this is a white guy and he's actually pretty nice.
56:25
Speaker 5: A big Burley combat vet, big Burley combat vet, someone
56:28
Speaker 5: you can see with rogan, and he's fine.
56:30
Speaker 4: Don't be afraid, don't be scared. Like the the current
56:34
Speaker 4: cultural divorce between kind of progressives and white men is
56:39
Speaker 4: so like stark that it is. It's just culturally, morally,
56:47
Speaker 4: ethically wrong, but also just pragmatically from a political perspective,
56:52
Speaker 4: you can't build a national party. Yeah, if you assume
56:56
Speaker 4: every white guy or every white guy with a deep
56:59
Speaker 4: voice is a combat bet or whatever is like out
57:01
Speaker 4: to get.
57:02
Speaker 5: You, or if you talk about him in a way
57:04
Speaker 5: that implies he does have sort of built in problems, So.
57:09
Speaker 4: Just inherent toxicity or something.
57:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, whether or whether you're talking about racism or sexism.
57:16
Speaker 4: Yes, and if you believe that, you can point to
57:18
Speaker 4: a lot of things he said in the past, like them. Yeah,
57:21
Speaker 4: I can't deal with that Rocanna though.
57:23
Speaker 1: That's what I was just gonna say.
57:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's interesting to do the contrast with AOC
57:27
Speaker 5: and Rocana, actually, because there's also a theory here that
57:31
Speaker 5: maybe there's rumblings in DNC type circles that more is
57:36
Speaker 5: coming out on Platner, or that he's going to be
57:38
Speaker 5: used as an albatrass and other raceist, which I honestly doubt.
57:40
Speaker 5: I think that might be true with Tallerico. I don't
57:42
Speaker 5: think it's true with Platiner. But it's saying, you know,
57:44
Speaker 5: just be careful because you don't want to have to
57:47
Speaker 5: answer for him everywhere you go. Oh, you endorse Platner
57:50
Speaker 5: or you like Platner, Okay, so tell me why you
57:52
Speaker 5: like sexual assault constantly following you around the campaign.
57:56
Speaker 4: He hasn't been accused of that, right right, but you.
57:58
Speaker 5: Know that's how it's people are taking it, of course,
58:02
Speaker 5: and so that's the question that'll follow if you endorse.
58:06
Speaker 5: Here's Rokanna leaning all the way in C four.
58:10
Speaker 7: If the Democratic Party is going to exist, it needs
58:13
Speaker 7: to become the anti war Party. I fucking love this place.
58:18
Speaker 10: I don't know why you want to go to the set.
58:19
Speaker 7: I think a lot of people in this country would
58:21
Speaker 7: like to see more regular people in politics. And most
58:24
Speaker 7: people in this country have gone through some form of
58:26
Speaker 7: transformation throughout their lives. They've not been living perfect lives.
58:29
Speaker 10: Aone what do you say to someone that says, oh, roll,
58:31
Speaker 10: I agree with Graham's policies. I'm glad You're going there,
58:35
Speaker 10: but you know, after the stuff coming out, I just
58:37
Speaker 10: my granddaughter. What do you say to someone like that.
58:39
Speaker 7: If you believe in transformational politics, you need to believe
58:44
Speaker 7: in the ability for people to transform. And I came
58:47
Speaker 7: out of the infantry at a time where like you.
58:49
Speaker 4: Sucked it up, where you're getting help or no.
58:51
Speaker 7: No, God no, which is why I was self medicated, right,
58:53
Speaker 7: And this is the point in my life where I
58:54
Speaker 7: didn't believe that PTSD was real.
58:56
Speaker 1: Do you ever have flashbacks?
58:57
Speaker 7: It really just manifested us like deep depression and anxiety.
59:01
Speaker 7: Intense combat sort of changes your brain.
59:05
Speaker 10: Do you now see where you are? Say, hey, I
59:07
Speaker 10: could have been a better person. And in terms of
59:09
Speaker 10: how I was.
59:10
Speaker 7: I had frankly witnessed the most awful things a person
59:14
Speaker 7: could witness and see, and it was all done in
59:17
Speaker 7: the service of seemingly or nothing.
59:20
Speaker 5: My gosh, just hearing the boats bump up against the
59:23
Speaker 5: dock and the wall, it's just that.
59:25
Speaker 1: Was very well done. Fitny. It took you right to
59:28
Speaker 1: Sorrento Main where it was.
59:29
Speaker 4: Filmed it did so, And I said earlier like that
59:32
Speaker 4: there's a particular problem that democratic liberals kind of have
59:36
Speaker 4: with white guys. It's and it is particular two white guys,
59:39
Speaker 4: it's also all guys.
59:40
Speaker 5: Like yes, yes, black and Hispanic men went for Trump
59:44
Speaker 5: and they made it. He made real inrods with black
59:46
Speaker 5: and Hispanic men for a reason.
59:47
Speaker 4: And I also think people don't fully internalize. They hear
59:52
Speaker 4: him say that he did four combat tours, they hear
59:56
Speaker 4: him say that, I don't think they internalize what that means,
59:59
Speaker 4: and in particular what it means to have been a
1:00:02
Speaker 4: marine in Ramadi in Fallujah. You could just go google
1:00:05
Speaker 4: like Ramadi Marines two thousand and five, two thousand and six.
1:00:09
Speaker 4: There's the movies about it, but there's also lots of
1:00:13
Speaker 4: like real time footage that has been captured of and it.
1:00:18
Speaker 4: Ramadi in particular, at the time, the time that he
1:00:21
Speaker 4: was there, in the unit that he was with, is
1:00:24
Speaker 4: understood to be it was the most violent place on earth,
1:00:27
Speaker 4: and his unit saw extraordinary numbers of casualties and on
1:00:33
Speaker 4: a daily basis, his job was a machine gunner, like
1:00:38
Speaker 4: his job was to put out this suppressing fire as
1:00:44
Speaker 4: the unit is moving through, moving house to house and
1:00:49
Speaker 4: block to block. And now I also understand people on
1:00:51
Speaker 4: the left who are like, you know what, anybody who
1:00:53
Speaker 4: did that? I don't I don't want to hear from you.
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Speaker 4: I think that's idealistic and kept doing it the marks
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Speaker 4: at sense. It's it misunderstands. For the nineteen seventeen Bolshevik revolution,
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Speaker 4: you're going to get that without disaffected soldiers. You be
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Speaker 4: like heyd you that did you banonet somebody like I
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Speaker 4: don't want I don't want you out in the streets
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Speaker 4: like that. It was soldiers, peasants and workers that led
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Speaker 4: the revolution, like disaffected soldiers are are are critical to
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Speaker 4: any kind of workers movement.
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Speaker 5: You're really arguing now in lenin Is terms, except well,
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Speaker 5: because you're arguing with you're making too far people.
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Speaker 4: Far left too. But whatever, there's not a lot of
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Speaker 4: them in me, and they're against him. It's more of
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Speaker 4: that's more of the national conversation.
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Speaker 1: But is that a real conversation in like DSA world?
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Speaker 7: Oh?
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I get it.
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Speaker 1: I've seen some of it.
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Speaker 4: I get it. Like it, like I think it's very
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Speaker 4: hard for people to put themselves in in his frame
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Speaker 4: of mind where he wanted to go to war.
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Speaker 5: And he's basically rebuked most of what he did, right,
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Speaker 5: And that's a really critical difference.
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Speaker 4: Right. But so, as a machine gunner, you are going
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Speaker 4: house to house every single day. If you mess up,
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Speaker 4: your comrades die. If you don't mess up, you kill
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Speaker 4: a bunch of people. So now it's combat. But to
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Speaker 4: then later come to terms with the fact that you
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Speaker 4: were fighting for nothing means that you killed those people
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Speaker 4: for nothing. You killed those people to save your own
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Speaker 4: men's lives and women's lives, but they shouldn't have been
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Speaker 4: there in the first place. You realize, and he has realized,
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Speaker 4: so to witness that, to take part in it, to
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Speaker 4: come to terms with what you did and that it
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Speaker 4: all being for nothing is is that that is the
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Speaker 4: thing that produces so much depression, anxiety and terror in
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Speaker 4: com veterans. Yeah, this this understanding that what what you
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Speaker 4: what you did was for nothing, what your friends died for.
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Speaker 5: And reckoning with it on these these scattershot reddit posts
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Speaker 5: for years. It's actually kind of an interesting window into
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Speaker 5: the mindset.
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Speaker 4: And I think, and I think just that's why I say.
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Speaker 4: People hear him say he did two combat tours. I
1:03:20
Speaker 4: think it's imp well, two combat tours in Iraq and
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Speaker 4: then four total. Yeah, but it's very hard to internalize
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Speaker 4: what that does to your soul. And to have somebody
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Speaker 4: who's processing that and then to come back and have
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Speaker 4: an opportunity to go to the United States Senate to
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Speaker 4: fight against sending more people to do that, Yeah, it's
1:03:43
Speaker 4: just extraordinarily powerful. He said in one of our first
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Speaker 4: interviews that his hero is Smedley Butler, who committed far
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Speaker 4: more atrocities than Oh. Yeah, then maybe anybody good lord
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Speaker 4: like Nicaragua, Duran's Haiti.
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Speaker 1: Like China, Philippine, I feel, on and.
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Speaker 4: On across the world. And then wrote war as a
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Speaker 4: Racket in the nineteen thirties, which really birthed a real
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Speaker 4: piece in an anti war movement. But he was a general.
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Speaker 4: To have a grunt come to the Senate and talk
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Speaker 4: about that, I think would be extremely powerful. Also, I
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Speaker 4: would love to see him interrogating like the top brass
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Speaker 4: in the military, fascinating like they do not want to
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Speaker 4: hear that from a grunt. No, that's going to but
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Speaker 4: that would be That would be amazing to see. So
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Speaker 4: I just think it's such an important voice to have,
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Speaker 4: whether it's Republican, Democrat, independent, whatever like. To have that
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Speaker 4: experience and to bring it to bear at the national
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Speaker 4: level is something that this country really needs, I think,
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Speaker 4: to reckon with what we've done and what we continue
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Speaker 4: to do.
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Speaker 5: Seventy voters agree with Ryan in the main Democratic primary,
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Speaker 5: so now it comes down to Susan Collins. Honestly, I
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Speaker 5: could talk about this for the whole show because it's
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Speaker 5: such an interesting and I know we're gonna keep talking
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Speaker 5: about it. We should probably tick through some of the
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Speaker 5: other the other wins rand of Jegas.
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Speaker 4: Ryan, Yes, so we can put up C six Democrats
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Speaker 4: in the House are absolutely livid at the d Triple
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Speaker 4: C for spending a bunch of money and teaming up
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Speaker 4: with d MFI Democratic Majority for Israel in trying to
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Speaker 4: elect jazz Mee Baines, trying to get her under the
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Speaker 4: top two instead. Yeah, this is a Jewish insider. Their
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Speaker 4: headline is anti Israel. Democrat Viegas declares victory in California
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Speaker 4: House primaries is Randy Vegas. You remember from his interview
1:05:33
Speaker 4: he did here a couple of weeks ago, So he'll
1:05:36
Speaker 4: he'll go on to take on the Republican incumbent, which
1:05:39
Speaker 4: makes us a very important race for kind of the
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Speaker 4: left sidea that you can have populist policies. This is
1:05:48
Speaker 4: a he's a community college professor and owns a or
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Speaker 4: like runs a garage in Bakersfield. To have somebody like
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Speaker 4: him running on a Bernie platform up against the Republican like.
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Speaker 4: The left's argument has been that you can win with that,
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Speaker 4: and if you win with that, you will then deliver
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Speaker 4: for people and then people will reward you. Democrats have
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Speaker 4: really not gotten to try that basically since the New Deal.
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Speaker 4: So it's the other attempt to do that. Well, it's
1:06:18
Speaker 4: slightly different. Attempt to take on an incumbent seems to
1:06:22
Speaker 4: be going quite well. Justice Democrats and WFP backed may Vang,
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Speaker 4: who's also remember she was on the program a week
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Speaker 4: or two ago put up C seven Doris Mattsoue a
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Speaker 4: long time in comment, she and her husband have held
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Speaker 4: this seat for forty plus years. She spent a fortune
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Speaker 4: trying to boost that guy down at the bottom, Zach Woods.
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Speaker 4: He's a Republican college kid, and I kept saying she
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Speaker 4: better be careful. I's not guaranteed she's going to be
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Speaker 4: the number one seed here in this tournament and may
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Speaker 4: Vang has now overtaken her, and so Doris Mattsoue is
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Speaker 4: she will make the top two. But she almost kind
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Speaker 4: of right after her way out into the number three position,
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Speaker 4: which would be that would have been the funniest thing.
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Speaker 4: You spend all this money and you boost this guy Woods,
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Speaker 4: It would have been pretty bunny past yourself.
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Speaker 1: It would have been pretty funny.
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Speaker 4: She's cooked though, because Sacramento, like news media, has turned
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Speaker 4: against her. I don't see how the Republicans who voted
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Speaker 4: for Woods are going to then shift to Matt Suey,
1:07:29
Speaker 4: because if you're a Republican there, Matt Suey's been your
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Speaker 4: representative for decades, I think you probably just even if
1:07:35
Speaker 4: the person's throw to the lefty project like to get
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Speaker 4: rid of her, we'll see. That'll be an interesting one.
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Speaker 4: So tell us about oh so, yeah, tell us about
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Speaker 4: styr has conceded he's not going to make the top two.
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Speaker 5: Just a reminder, Tom Steyer spent about two hundred million dollars.
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Speaker 5: He didn't even make the top two two hundred million
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Speaker 5: dollars after about three hundred million dollars trying to run
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Speaker 5: for president. His net worth is estimated at about two
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Speaker 5: point four billions, so fabulously wealthy man. He's not Jeff
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Speaker 5: Bezos rich. And he spent now half a billion dollars
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Speaker 5: of a two point four billion estimated net worth trying
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Speaker 5: to be an elected official. Never trust anybody who wants
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Speaker 5: to be an elected official to the tune of half.
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Speaker 1: A billion dollars.
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Speaker 5: That's insane behavior, as like joker style behavior.
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Speaker 4: So he could he could have run for house somewhere
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Speaker 4: or something.
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Speaker 5: Yes, exactly, he's consun a house C nine. Yeah, that
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Speaker 5: would have been that would have been fine. But yes,
1:08:25
Speaker 5: he did concede. It looks like Steve Hilton is going
1:08:28
Speaker 5: to make the run off.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 5: The other thing that happened last night is Lindsey Graham
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Speaker 5: took about fifty eight percent of the vote. It's looking
1:08:35
Speaker 5: like right now he's always he always has a primary
1:08:37
Speaker 5: challenger one time, including from a Southern charm you may
1:08:42
Speaker 5: remember that season, but it did not work out well
1:08:45
Speaker 5: for Lindsay Grahm's primary opponents. This time around, he ended
1:08:49
Speaker 5: up over fifty percent easily. So Nancy Mayce goes down
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Speaker 5: in the gubernatorial primary five fifth fifth. She finished lower
1:09:01
Speaker 5: than Ralph Norman Trump candidates were the favorites in that race,
1:09:06
Speaker 5: but Nancy Mays couldn't even get top three, little one,
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Speaker 5: top two, let alone a win finishes at five twelve
1:09:13
Speaker 5: percent of the vote. Yet twelve percent of the vote,
1:09:15
Speaker 5: so really a brutal result there for Nancy Mace, who
1:09:19
Speaker 5: definitely felt like she had momentum and wind at her
1:09:21
Speaker 5: back for a while, and you know, maybe the momentum stalled. Listen,
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Speaker 5: I don't think Nancy Mayce was going to win this election.
1:09:28
Speaker 5: I do think probably she lost some momentum when Trump
1:09:31
Speaker 5: got upset over push people pushing further further.
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Speaker 1: For more and more Epstein disclosure. And Mace was certainly.
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Speaker 11: A part of that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so the number of casualties from Epstein. Certainly very
1:09:45
Speaker 4: few men who were actually implicated in the Epstein ring,
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Speaker 4: but so far Marjorie Taylor, Green, Thomas Massey, Nancy Mace
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Speaker 4: casualties of it. Interesting how that works out.
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Speaker 7: I wanted to put