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The cost of American shortsightedness in an age of long‑game powers · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  We are faith and fury.
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  Love and fire.
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  This is the human equation where every voice counts and every truth cuts deep.
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  With your host, Joseph Pangaro.
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  Hey everybody, and welcome aboard the human equation.
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  I'm your host, Joe Panga.
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  So what shall we talk about?
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  As they say.
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  Well, I guess the thing on everybody's mind.
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  And you know, I like to get away from politics sometimes, you know, but unfortunately, you can't always do it, especially in the world that we're in right now.
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  Now, the big concern, we're gonna talk about Greenland in a minute and what's going on there.
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  We'll talk about the president and how he's going about his negotiating and what he does, how he negotiates, what it can mean, how people react to it.
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  But I think before we get there, I want to address something that I find ridiculous, and I guess maybe you do too.
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  There's a lot of concern, obviously right now in the political realm, the talking heads uh out there on all these different networks, where there's looks like the Republicans might blow it, looks like the Republicans might lose the House and the Senate.
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  They're gonna crash in the midterm elections.
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  And you know what?
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  That is I guess that's technically true.
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  Um historically, the party in power does lose seats.
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  I think only three times since the 1800s has the president or the party in power not lost seats in the midterm elections.
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  But I have to say, it seems to me that it's almost unfathomable to me that people who just suffered through four years of the Biden administration, of open borders, millions of illegal people coming into our countries, many of them criminals, dangerous people, gang members.
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  That we just went through this inflation, eight, nine percent.
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  We saw mortgage rates go through the roof.
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  We have seen crime out of control in our cities.
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  We have seen America a laughing stock around the world.
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  We're seeing Russia uh attack Ukraine.
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  We're seeing the Chinese emboldened all over the world and moving around because of the weakness of Joe Biden and the Democrats.
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  That's what we just lived through.
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  Now, we come to our senses as a nation, and we vote for the alternative in this particular cycle.
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  The alternative was Donald Trump.
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  And we elect Trump president, and he comes in, and in one year's time, he has begun to turn the economy around, strengthen our military, change our dynamics with the rest of the world, and we're we're heading for a better place.
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  But because eggs have only come down a little bit, and gasoline has come down a little bit, and things have come down a little bit, people are now saying they they've had enough of the Republicans, they're gonna vote them out, and they're gonna if the Democrats are gonna take over the House and the Senate.
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  And I have to say, are these people that are going to vote for Democrats mentally unbalanced?
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  I have to ask that question.
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  Why would you vote after one year?
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  Well, so two by the time the elections come, one and three quarter years of the next Trump administration and things changing.
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  Why would you turn around and throw your entire future into the garbage and go, well, I'm gonna vote for the Democrats now, let's see what they can do.
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  I have to, I have to think that you these people that are considering doing that, cannot really have all their faculties.
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  What do you think you'd be voting for?
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  Do you think the people who just bankrupted our country and almost destroyed us, we're gonna vote for them and put them in charge again, and they're gonna do anything different.
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  Do you know what the definition of crazy is?
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  The definition of crazy is doing something the same way and expecting a different outcome.
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  So while I understand that many in the mainstream media have a have a vested interest in the Democrats coming back into power.
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  That's pretty clear.
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  That's their people, that's the ones they're they're pulling for, their stories are biased all that way.
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  Everything they say and do is in that order.
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  They're socialists, they're communists, and that's what they want.
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  Well, that's fair enough.
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  I understand that.
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  I get it, I know where they're coming from.
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  But if it's really true, if people out there in America that voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump, where he won the uh the election, he won the popular vote, he won all seven swing states.
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  He was given a great mandate to come in and fix all the problems that the Democrats and Joe Biden made over the past four years, and two years into his second term, because it's not going as fast as people want.
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  Well, first of all, it tells me they have no understanding of how things actually happen and how they work.
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  You know, it takes more than a year to do to undo all the things that were wrong to get his own budget going to see the effects of his budget, but that would have to tell me people are too stupid to understand that.
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  And I hate to say that.
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  If you're sitting there, are you sitting there right now in your house, your car, on your uh on your veranda or wherever you are, um sipping a latte.
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  Are you saying, well, I gave Trump a chance, that's it.
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  He didn't do it.
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  I'm I'm voting for the Democrats.
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  What do you think you're going to get?
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  Well, here, let me lay it out for you.
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  You are going to get an open border again.
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  They're gonna open the border and let everyone come pouring in again.
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  You are gonna get crime go through the roof.
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  You are going to have ice removed from all of these cities, so all of the criminal aliens that are still here are gonna prey upon you and hurt you, your family, and uh everyone else's family.
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  You're going to see taxes go up and the economy come to a screeching halt, and then reverse and maybe go into recession, interest rates will go back up, the economy will take a dive, and we'll be right back to where we were.
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  Is that what you really want?
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  Is that what your brain tells you is the right thing to do?
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  I don't know.
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  I I'm sitting here listening to these pundits, even people on the right.
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  I'm listening to some people on the right that I I think are pretty smart, and they're like, yep, it's not looking good right now, it's not looking good right now.
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  If things do not really, really change, uh Democrats are gonna win, the House and the Senate, and then they're gonna impeach Trump every other week.
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  They'll impeach him, they'll go after him, there'll be investigations on real it'll be exactly what we all just voted to get away from.
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  Is that really what you want?
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  Is that what our country wants?
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  I find that I find that so hard to believe.
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  All right, so when Ronald Reagan took over from Jimmy Carter, I was a young person at that point.
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  I was a very young person.
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  It was my first four-way foray into politics.
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  And the media uh was telling us uh young people that oh my god, Ronald Reagun.
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  That's what they were calling him, Ray Gun.
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  He's gonna start a war, he's gonna kill you all, you're gonna go to war, he's gonna destroy our country, destroy our nation.
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  It's gonna be horrible.
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  Meantime, we had 20% interest rates.
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  We had a destroyed economy, we had a military that couldn't fly helicopters in the desert.
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  We had such uh malaise, we had uh stagflation, we it was horrible.
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  I was coming into the working world at that time, and I remember how tough it was, how horrible it was.
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  You know, I bought my first house, and I thought I got a bargain on my interest rate of uh I think it was uh 12% or 13%.
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  Absolutely.
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  But within 18 months of Reagan and his new policies, we saw the economy stabilize and then turn around, and then what we had was a 20-year run of a good solid economy because of the policies enacted under Ronald Reagan.
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  Why would people not well, of course it's clear because nobody tells us this.
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  The media is not gonna tell you this.
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  The media is going to lie to you and tell you your only hope is to go back to the Democrats because they care about you.
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  Well, you saw how much they cared about you the last time.
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  How much did they care about you the last time?
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  When they opened the borders, destroyed the military, destroyed interest rates, destroyed the economy.
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  It's under the Democrats that eggs went to $10 a dozen.
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  It's under them that gas went to four and five and six dollars a gallon.
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  It's coming down now.
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  So let's take a look.
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  A year ago.
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  Let's go a year ago.
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  Is gasoline cheaper today than it was a year ago, the day before Donald Trump took office?
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  The answer, whether you're on the right or the left, whether you're sitting in your basement in your underwear with crayons taking notes about uh what I'm saying, or whether you're a uh a common sense individual, the answer is yes, gasoline prices have come down in many places.
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  It is at uh 250, 265, and some places I've heard it's even.
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  Even below $2 a gallon.
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  This is a huge increase.
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  Gasoline, fuel.
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  Fuel is the energy that we run everything by.
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  All right.
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  Fossil fuels are in every product that we have.
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  Our truckers that brings things all across the country to bring the supplies and everything we need everywhere.
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  Everything runs on fuel.
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  When fuel costs come down for all these industries, then everything gets cheaper.
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  It doesn't get cheaper overnight.
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  It gets cheaper over a period of time as that new price starts to work into how businesses run.
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  And I think that's part of the problem is people, most people have not run a business, so they have no idea how a business works.
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  But things do not happen overnight.
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  The only thing, well, there is one thing that happens overnight in business.
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  You could see gas, say gasoline's $2 a gallon, and it's uh selling for $35 a barrel on the open market.
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  Okay, $2 a gallon is what we pay at the pump, and it's selling for $35 a barrel.
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  Now there's some crisis in the Middle East.
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  And tomorrow, the oil markets panic, production is shut down, everyone is afraid, and the cost of a barrel oil goes to $85.
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  Well, there's already gasoline in the pipeline, isn't there?
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  It's gasoline that's already been pumped out of the ground, it's already been refined.
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  It's in trucks and on boats and whatnot.
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  It's on its way here, and it's already made.
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  But we will see that gasoline on Monday go to $3 on Tuesday because of the change in gasoline price.
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  And you say, well, how can that happen?
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  How does that happen overnight?
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  Because the people that are selling the gasoline, the the retail establishments, the uh wholesalers, what they are looking at is that next month when they have to resupply all their gas stations, resupply all their oil, all their heating oil, it's gonna cost them $85 a barrel.
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  So therefore they have to up to price now so that they can pay for it later, right?
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  In everything else in the world, when you bring you know the cost of uh oil and everything else down, now the truckers don't have to pay $700 for a tank full of uh diesel fuel, they're gonna pay $300.
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  Well, that doesn't happen overnight.
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  That has to be worked into the into the equation, and slowly but surely the cost to deliver things will go down.
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  But it does not happen overnight, but it's happening.
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  That's why I'm asking these questions.
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  Is gasoline cheaper today?
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  12 months later, since Trump took office, has it finally gotten down to a lower price?
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  The answer is yes.
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  Are meat prices down, not down where they were, but is it down?
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  It is.
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  Um, is the price of what else?
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  Uh eggs, remember eggs, $10 a carton.
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  Are they not down to $3?
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  In some, I've seen them for $299, right?
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  Are they not down?
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  Like what 70% that is?
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  So we're seeing things come down in price.
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  Here's another problem that nobody tells, nobody explains this to anybody, so I don't think anybody understands it.
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  When we had inflation of six, seven, eight, nine percent, and it drove the prices of everything up, those prices are very, very slow to come back.
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  Sometimes you even set a new paradigm for what things cost.
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  The price goes up to that because of inflation, but then when inflation disappears, it's gonna pretty much stay in that area.
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  It'll come down a little bit.
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  The new price is very, very high, unless you have greater productivity, you have uh a greater uh workforce that's out there doing it, your demand continues, and people are working, they have money to buy, and then the prices start to come down and stabilize, but things are never gonna get cheaper.
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  You know, I love those um those pop-up things on social media.
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  Let's look at this day in 1973.
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  What was the cost to go to a movie?
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  Well, it was like 65 cents to go to a movie.
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  What was the cost of a loaf of bread of 32 cents?
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  What was a gallon of gas?
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  Uh 96 cents.
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  We're never going back to those prices because they have everything has gotten more expensive.
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  So this big blast of Biden inflation that we had and liberal policies, and that's what causes all of this.
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  It's gonna come down, but it's not gonna go back to what it was.
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  You're not going back to what it was uh the day before Joe Biden took office.
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  That's not gonna happen.
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  But we're we're the media's telling, well, Trump says he's gonna break it down, he didn't do it, he didn't do it.
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  It's the cycle takes more time than that.
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  We're seeing that happen now.
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  Did the man not go around and talk to all these companies and bringing back these companies and trillions of dollars of investment into America?
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  Do you think they can build a washing machine factory in two months or eight months?
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  In some of our states where they want to do this, it might take three years to get the permits because of regulation in some blue areas.
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  So you can't say, well, he said he was gonna do it, it didn't happen overnight, so I'm gonna vote for the Democrats.
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  What are you gonna get if you vote for the Democrats?
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  You're gonna go right back to what we had.
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  And that's why I have to say you may have a difference of opinion on conservative policies or liberal policies, but there's got to be something wrong with your thinking.
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  If you think voting for them is going to make things better, they're gonna make it better.
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  You know, in New Jersey, we have a new governor, all right?
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  A new governor, she's a she's a liberal, very clearly a liberal woman, and uh energy prices here are out of control in New Jersey.
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  So what's her answer?
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  She's gonna first, what's the first thing she does?
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  She signed, she removes uh executive orders or she adds executive orders that say, you know, we're not cooperating with ice, we're not doing that, and I'm freezing uh electric prices because electric's getting really expensive here in New Jersey, and there's a whole host of reasons.
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  It costs money to make energy.
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  Well, when you stop making energy, right?
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  Coal-fired plants, when you go to wind and solar and happy thoughts and then uh, you know, uh uh uh unicorns running around to to make uh fuel, the cost of everything goes up, right?
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  So she we're gonna freeze it.
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  Now, now historically, freezing prices seems like a good idea.
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  We'll just tell these rich companies you can't make any more money.
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  That seems that's a satisfying thing to say.
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  Enough with your profits.
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  And I have problems with companies that are making trillions of dollars, and that are not noticing what's what the effect of that is, and then mitigating their costs so that it's not as painful to everyone.
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  But I don't think I can demand that of them.
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  Most of these are private companies, and the private company charges what it wants.
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  Now I don't like that they charge a lot, but it's their company.
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  Someone got up in the morning, put their clothes on and said, I'm gonna start a business today.
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  I'm gonna put out my blood, sweat, and tears, I'm gonna invest my money into this company, and try and create a profit, and then they create a profit.
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  Well, it's their company.
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  You don't like it, don't buy their stuff.
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  Well, and the answer is often, well, we need those things.
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  We need those things, so it's not fair that they sell them for the price they sell.
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  Well, then you go start a company, right?
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  I don't I don't have every single answer for things.
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  A very, very good and decent person.
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  And I were having a conversation the other day.
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  And this person that I I care about deeply, and I think they're very, very smart.
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  And he says to me, you know, I I start to see the light now of Republican policy, which I which I didn't see before.
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  I didn't really see it before.
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  I kind of believed all the hype.
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  I believe the the media and you know, Republicans hate everyone and they're racist, and and and I haven't really seen that in real life.
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  And I said, Good.
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  That sounds like you know, you're you're opening your eyes, you're you're making judgments based on what you see, not on what you're being told.
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  That's a good thing.
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  And this person said, yeah, the only thing I disagree with that I really can't get my head away from, is that you know, these companies that have billions and billions of dollars and individuals that have that much money, they don't need that much money.
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  And you know, the government should be able to tax them, especially heavy and hard, because you know what?
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  If somebody has a hundred million dollars and they're paying a million in tax, they still got 99 million dollars to live the life of Riley.
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  They have boats and and vacations and money, they don't worry about food or electric or anything.
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  So if we went in and took 25 million off of them, they'd still have 75 million, that they could live like kings and queens.
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  So, you know, I think we need to be able to do that because we need the money as the people.
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  Now, when you just listen to those words, and you try and figure out the logic of that, it does seem kind of stark, right?
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  Isn't it really true?
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  I mean, if somebody's got a hundred million dollars, and most of these people we're talking about have you know between 20 million and a billion.
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  There's a big wide range of the rich.
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  But I remember uh Rush Limbaugh saying one time anybody that has a dollar more than you in their pocket is richer than you, right?
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  And we have to keep that in mind.
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  But just say say this person has a hundred million dollars, and doesn't matter how they
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  Got it.
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  That their father had a business, their mother had a business, left it to them.
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  It's their money.
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  It belongs to them.
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  Does that give them a good lifestyle?
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  It does.
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  It gives them a great lifestyle.
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  Awesome, amazing lifestyle.
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  All right.
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  So we look at that and they 100 million dollars.
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  And it's true.
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  If they paid, I don't know, say, say five million in tax.
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  You know, that's what they end up paying.
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  Five million.
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  That leaves them $95 million a year to live.
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  You can live pretty good on $95 million.
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  You could buy beach houses every other week.
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  You know, you can you can fly off on vacations.
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  You can do all kinds of things on $95 million, no doubt.
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  So it would follow then, if you know, where does that line get drawn?
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  And this is where I like Rush Limbaugh's thought is that any person that has a dollar more than you is rich.
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  So if you look at it this way and say, okay, if they're living really great on $95 million, could they live equally as great on $75 million?
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  Now you ask yourself, you say, okay, I make $150,000 a year.
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  If I had $75 million, how would my lifestyle change?
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  It would be unbelievable.
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  So you know what?
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  Maybe they really don't need that extra 20 million.
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  They could still live great.
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  The problem with that is that it is not our money to take.
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  It is not ours as a people to say, well, you have enough.
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  So we're going to take what we need from what you have amassed by your work, your inheritance, your family, whatever it is, however, you got that money.
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  We're looking at it and going, we need more, and you got it, so we're gonna take it.
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  That is not the American way.
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  That is not our system.
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  And believe me, uh, I feel the same pangs when I when I was raising my family, and I was struggling as a law enforcement officer.
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  We we were getting paid $35,000 a year to put our life on the line, then 40,000.
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  And when I left, you know, patrol officers are making 125,000.
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  That's a pretty good salary.
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  125,000 to put your life on the line to work, shift work, holidays, everything else, and to do the things we ask our officers to do.
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  When you think about it, while that's a pretty good salary, is that a great salary?
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  Well, it depends on where you live.
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  If you live in the New York area, 125, 150,000 does not go very far.
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  Now, is it better than 50,000?
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  Uh, yes, it's certainly better than 50,000.
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  But it doesn't go very far.
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  So if you were to go somewhere else where the cost of everything was much less, that 150 would go very far.
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  But the reality is in places where it costs less, they pay less.
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  So I'm only using that cop salary for the number.
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  The bottom line is when someone has more than you, it's not a zero sum game.
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  It's not about what's fair.
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  There is no such thing as fair in life.
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  Right?
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  There is what there is, and some people are blessed with good looks, some people are blessed with a lot of money.
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  And it's difficult when we see people who are in need, and other people have abundance.
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  I agree.
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  I get it.
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  You know, I look and I see a homeless guy in the street who's got nothing, and here's a limousine pulling up to the same place, and and people are getting out with watches that cost more than I'll ever make in my life.
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  That's you know, that is disheartening.
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  Uh, no doubt about it.
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  So I understand those kind of feelings.
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  The problem that comes up here is that where do we draw the line in deciding somebody has enough, and we're going to take what we see as excess more than they need to live a good life, will decide what you need, and we'll take what we want from you.
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  So I kind of get that, but that's where I can't do that.
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  That's that's not so here I am.
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  Let's let's give you a raise.
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  Let's say you make a hundred thousand dollars a year in your community where the average salary is sixty thousand, and you're making a hundred.
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  Now, for all kinds of reasons.
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  Maybe you came up with a product or a service that people want and willing to pay you, and you're making the money.
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  Maybe it got left to you by your great uncle uh uh Fergus Nats and he left it to you, and now you have this money.
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  Maybe you went to school and got a skill that is valuable.
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  Somebody's willing to pay you a hundred thousand dollars to live, and you're living you're living in the neighborhood with all these people who are getting by.
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  They're all living um a life.
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  They have housing, they have food, they have uh their children go to school, everyone has clothes.
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  Now, your family has $40,000 a year more spending money than everybody else.
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  And people would look at that and go, well, I'm making $60,000, you're making a hundred, I'm making it on sixty, so therefore you don't need a hundred to make.
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  I think we should take another twenty-five off of you.
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  You'll still have seventy-five thousand, which is more than everybody else is getting around here, and the rest of us can have some extra things.
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  Now, when you bring the numbers down out of the millions and the astronomical numbers, and you just look at that, you say to yourself, would you be okay with that?
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  Would that make sense to you that your neighbor looks at you and says, Well, you're making 50,000 more than everybody else in the neighborhood?
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  And since we're all living on this, you could live on it too.
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  Matter of fact, you can even live a little better, but we're gonna take that excess that we don't think you need.
• 26:03
  Would you be okay with that?
• 26:05
  I'm not okay with that.
• 26:06
  So I'm not okay with it if it's if it's a dollar that you take off of someone that's beyond what everyone has to pay in their tax burden.
• 26:14
  Or if you take hundreds of millions off of somebody who has hundreds of millions.
• 26:19
  Now, would I hope that someone who has those kind of resources would be generous to their community?
• 26:26
  Yes.
• 26:26
  Would I hope they would donate to their church and donate to the local food belt uh uh food uh pantry?
• 26:34
  Would I hope that they would help the homeless?
• 26:36
  Would I hope they would help all these different of course?
• 26:39
  And you know what?
• 26:40
  That's what I would do, and that's what millions of Americans do.
• 26:44
  You know, uh, as I worked my way up through the economic stratas, as they say, over the course of my career.
• 26:52
  I had a job.
• 26:53
  So then when I needed more money, I did a second job.
• 26:57
  Sometimes I did a third job.
• 26:58
  Then I created my own jobs, then I worked harder, and I find I developed myself into a much more income than I've ever had in my life, and things got easier financially.
• 27:11
  They absolutely did.
• 27:12
  Now I wasn't making millions of dollars, but I was making a very substantial more money than I had been at any point in my life.
• 27:20
  And what did I do?
• 27:22
  I said I've been blessed, and I started to get I took some of the excess, not all the excess, because a lot of it went to savings and vacations and buying a nicer car for my wife and my children and upgrading my house, all the things I earned, but I also took a large chunk of that money that I couldn't afford previously, and I gave it to charities, to people who needed it.
• 27:43
  I helped people out.
• 27:44
  Why?
• 27:44
  Because that's the right thing to do.
• 27:47
  So I would I hope these multimillionaires would do that too.
• 27:50
  I do, but I don't think it's right to reach into anybody else's pocket and take something just because they got more.
• 27:58
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  Hey, come on back.
• 30:48
  Now, did everybody reach into your pockets?
• 30:51
  Did you all count up all your extra money and uh and decide to give away some of it?
• 30:56
  I don't know that we do.
• 30:58
  I it's it's kind of like, and I don't blame anything, I'm not saying to guilt anybody into that.
• 31:03
  Um, as you move through life, your income goes up, your income goes down, and you adjust what you can do based on your circumstance.
• 31:14
  When I had nothing, I gave what I could when I had very little, because I thought it was important to give.
• 31:20
  I give to my church, you know, I would help people out, even when I had very little.
• 31:24
  Because I thought that was right, because you know what?
• 31:26
  People helped me when I was in a bad way and I needed something.
• 31:30
  My father-in-law stepped up and helped me out.
• 31:33
  My mother stepped up and helped me out.
• 31:35
  You know, so I I learned those lessons.
• 31:37
  So I helped when I could.
• 31:39
  I couldn't, I couldn't save everybody.
• 31:40
  I couldn't do everything, but I did what I could.
• 31:43
  And as my income went up and my uh discretionary income went up, so did my discretionary giving.
• 31:50
  I saw it as a responsibility.
• 31:52
  I'm not saying you have to see it as a responsibility.
• 31:55
  Some people don't.
• 31:56
  I do, and I live by what I think and believe.
• 32:00
  So I find it interesting that as we we watch our friends on the left scream and holler that uh, you know, Trump is not right.
• 32:10
  They're not paying attention to things are actually better, they're getting better, interest rates are coming down, things are getting better, but it doesn't happen overnight.
• 32:20
  We have to give it a year or two.
• 32:22
  Right?
• 32:22
  So we've given it a year, things started coming down in another year, pending uh that we don't have some kind of a disaster.
• 32:29
  And I mean, I heard the president talking about that recently.
• 32:33
  He gave a speech, and he says, hey, you know, uh uh reporter asked him, hey, things are going better now, and you know, how do you prevent them from going bad in the future and going recession is natural?
• 32:44
  And he said, Well, you know, as long as you do the right things uh in governing and you don't have a disaster, like a pandemic or a war or something, it shouldn't.
• 32:54
  And I'm adding to that by saying, if you remember what gets us here, what gets us to the point of being um being good, having having a good economy, a strong military.
• 33:07
  What gets us there?
• 33:09
  Low taxes.
• 33:12
  Low regulation.
• 33:15
  Supporting business, not going after people and trying to destroy them and too many rules on top of people's heads.
• 33:22
  Get out of the way of people who want to have businesses and don't tax people to death.
• 33:29
  You do that, and then people have money and they don't mind working.
• 33:34
  You know, this whole thing that you know you're you're gonna earn so much money, and once you get to a certain, you're gonna go to another bracket, you're gonna owe more money.
• 33:42
  Well, I kind of get that, you know, progressive taxing, you know, because you got you you gotta pay more if you have more.
• 33:48
  I don't necessarily agree with it, but I think uh it is the system that we have.
• 33:53
  I would prefer to see something like uh 10% tax for everybody, no matter what it, no matter what you make, you pay 10% of your income after some serious, you know, good deductions, real deductions, what it costs to have people and you know, uh personal deduction and your mortgage.
• 34:08
  I think we have to protect mortgages and all that kind of thing.
• 34:12
  But once we get past that, you pay 10%.
• 34:15
  Now, we wouldn't have certainly wouldn't have the same amount of money as we have now to spend on things, but people would have more money.
• 34:22
  And what happens when people have more money?
• 34:25
  They spend it, right?
• 34:26
  When you can afford to buy a house, anybody who's bought a house, right?
• 34:29
  Unless you're, you know, one of these beach house people that buys a uh 20 million dollar perfect beach house.
• 34:35
  You buy a house, most houses you buy, they're either a fixer-upper that you buy it, and then you're gonna go in and you're gonna have to change things.
• 34:43
  You're gonna have to fix things, you're gonna have to, you know, redo the floors, you're gonna have to redo the window.
• 34:49
  You're gonna spend money to make your house nice.
• 34:52
  All of that home spending generates money in the economy.
• 34:58
  Because you know, you call a plumber to fix the pipes in the bathroom, maybe you fix the bathroom, and you call a tile guy or a sheetrock person or a woman to do the electric or whatever.
• 35:07
  Uh you you give them money to make your house nicer, and then they have money.
• 35:11
  What do they do with it?
• 35:12
  They buy a swimming pool, they buy a car, they they buy shirts and pants for their kids.
• 35:17
  That is how an economy is driven when you have low taxes, so people have more of their money.
• 35:23
  The government ends up bringing in more money.
• 35:26
  Now, these are the lessons that we seem to forget every couple of years as Americans.
• 35:32
  And we go through this, okay.
• 35:34
  We had we had prosperity, we had everything going on with uh, you know, Trump's first term.
• 35:38
  This was great, this was great.
• 35:40
  And then all of a sudden, we had this pandemic, and we're gonna we're gonna go with Joe Biden.
• 35:44
  Now, some of you are gonna argue out there the the election was stolen, and there seems to be, you know, before there was rumor and conspiracy theory.
• 35:52
  Now there seems to be some proof in some places that yeah, maybe things were not really on the up and up uh like uh that we were told they were.
• 36:00
  But the reality is um, whatever it was, we switched gears.
• 36:05
  We went from a successful president, a successful economy into something else, and it we nosedive, we crashed the plane.
• 36:13
  Uh the car went in the ditch, I think, as Barack Obama said one time.
• 36:17
  So that's why I'm amazed here that people are now talking about, well, things better get good, or people are gonna, they're gonna uh give the Congress back to the Democrats.
• 36:27
  And that is my point, and I'm gonna bring that to an end now.
• 36:30
  I'm gonna move on to the next topic, is that I have to say, our people who are thinking like that, are they stupid?
• 36:38
  Do they not remember what we had a year and a day ago?
• 36:43
  And you're gonna go back to that?
• 36:46
  You're gonna actually ask for that?
• 36:48
  What do you think you're gonna get?
• 36:50
  You're gonna get the same thing, only it would be even worse.
• 36:54
  You know why?
• 36:55
  Because these pieces people are wound up.
• 36:58
  They are wound up on the left and they are gonna lose their minds once they get power back, and you're gonna they're already now in blue cities voting for actual outfront socialist communists.
• 37:09
  What are you gonna think they're gonna do when they get national power back?
• 37:13
  Is that where you want to live?
• 37:15
  Do you really think socialism is better?
• 37:18
  Or do you think the idea of socialism is better, right?
• 37:21
  I guess we're all gonna see how the experiment in New York works.
• 37:24
  We're already seeing Mamdami, he says, you're gonna have uh we're gonna raise taxes on this one and that one, and we're gonna raise all these taxes and take the money from these people and we're gonna use it for this.
• 37:34
  And what did Governor Hoechel say, who's another liberal?
• 37:37
  She's realizing uh that doesn't win throughout the that doesn't win.
• 37:41
  That's not a winning strategy in New York when you got these socialists screaming tax everyone to death.
• 37:47
  Um that works there, but it's not gonna work in the rest of the state.
• 37:50
  So she's saying, yeah, no, we're not raising taxes, we're not doing that.
• 37:54
  Because she wants to stay in office.
• 37:56
  So where's this guy gonna get money from?
• 37:58
  What's what's one of his ideas?
• 38:00
  He comes out and says, not only am I gonna tax businesses extra hard, but I'm also gonna tax any businesses, corporate taxes, any businesses that do business in New York City.
• 38:13
  So if I own a company in uh Florida or Oklahoma and I sell stuff to people in in New York City, he wants to tax me too.
• 38:22
  That's not how our system works.
• 38:23
  That's how a socialist system works.
• 38:25
  What did uh Margaret Thatcher say?
• 38:27
  She goes, a socialist is somebody who uh, you know, spends everybody else's money, and when they run out of uh other people's money to spend, then they're gonna take yours, right?
• 38:37
  So you have to pay attention to that.
• 38:39
  So we're gonna see where that's gonna go.
• 38:41
  But are are people what do you think?
• 38:43
  Are people really gonna vote for Democrats and go backwards and go back to what we just left?
• 38:49
  You can email me.
• 38:51
  I would love to hear your point of view on this.
• 38:53
  All right, it's uh J Pangaro, J Pangaro, P-A-N-G-A-R-O, at America Outloud.news.
• 39:04
  The letter J, P-A-N-G-A-R-O at America Outloud.news.
• 39:10
  Let me know.
• 39:11
  Are you one of these crazy frothing at the mount liberals that are going to vote to bring liberals back because you just want to get Trump and you want to go back to the good old days of open borders and crime and a destroyed economy?
• 39:25
  Or are you a conservative who's going, well, I don't know.
• 39:29
  The Democrats are saying they would make things better.
• 39:32
  I think I'm gonna teach them uh Republican than MAGAs a lesson, and I'm gonna vote for these people.
• 39:37
  And okay, that's that's what my mother used to say.
• 39:40
  Cut your nose off to spite your fate.
• 39:41
  Is that what you're gonna do?
• 39:43
  Or are you a common sense person saying, well, the alternative to what we're doing right now?
• 39:48
  It might be slow getting things back.
• 39:51
  But going back to that, let me just aim the car at the ditch again.
• 39:55
  Is that what we're really gonna do?
• 39:56
  I would love to hear your points of view.
• 39:58
  Jay Pangaro.
• 40:00
  At America Out Loud dot news.
• 40:03
  All right.
• 40:04
  So as I'm looking through my pages of outrages, as I call them, as I look at different things.
• 40:09
  When we talk about Greenland, we talk about Greenland.
• 40:15
  And you say historically, right?
• 40:18
  Historically, the United States has purchased great great things of land around the world as our country was growing.
• 40:28
  Does anybody remember uh Seward's folly in the 1800s when we bought Alaska from the Russians?
• 40:35
  Right?
• 40:35
  We bought Alaska from the Russians.
• 40:37
  And how about the Virgin Islands?
• 40:40
  We bought the Virgin Islands.
• 40:41
  I think in the 1912 or something like that.
• 40:43
  We bought several of the Virgin Islands.
• 40:45
  We we have uh we have uh a commonwealth of of Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States.
• 40:51
  Guam, uh Marshall Islands, places all around the world.
• 40:55
  Greenland is an island that's under the control of Denmark, and it has been for many years.
• 41:01
  Uh in World War II, they lost control of it because they were overrun very quickly by the Nazis.
• 41:07
  And America had a fight back for that.
• 41:09
  And we had some bases there, and then we gave it back to them.
• 41:12
  Okay?
• 41:13
  I'm not saying take somebody's land, the people that live there.
• 41:17
  Um it's just one of the it is essential, and here's why.
• 41:22
  It's essential for America to stay free and to be able to protect ourselves from the evil powers that are all around us.
• 41:33
  Now, this is a reality.
• 41:35
  This is a truth that people don't necessarily want to see.
• 41:39
  So the people in Greenland, and and I'm ambivalent about the idea of you, you know, you don't march in there with troops and take over and say we now have the land.
• 41:49
  But I really do think that it's in the best interest of the world, Denmark included, uh, that the United States incorporate that as an American territory, compensate the people that I think I heard the other day, they make $10,000 a year, the people that live on Greenland.
• 42:09
  There's uh, you know, 57,000 of them or something, small population, but they make 10,000 a year.
• 42:15
  Well, give them 250,000 each.
• 42:18
  Buy it and have it be American.
• 42:21
  Then they come under the auspices of America, they stay safe, companies will go there, you can turn it into a tourist place.
• 42:29
  Now I know maybe the people there don't want it.
• 42:31
  I was talking to a very liberal guy yesterday, and he's like, well, that's all well and good.
• 42:36
  America will go in there and protect them if they if they took it, sure, if they if they or bought it.
• 42:41
  And America would develop all the minerals and all the the resources, and that would create millions and millions of dollars.
• 42:48
  Uh, but what if those people there don't want that stuff?
• 42:51
  What if they want to live on 10,000 a year and live in a little fishing village or in a cabin up on top of a thing?
• 42:57
  Who are we to say that they should live a better, more modernized life with more things?
• 43:02
  And you know what?
• 43:03
  You're right.
• 43:04
  You're absolutely right.
• 43:06
  You know, it is where they live now, it is their home.
• 43:09
  Uh I think it's short-sighted for them, and I think it's short-sighted for the rest of the world, the NATO world anyway, the Western Europe world to uh to mount such a an attack on Trump.
• 43:21
  They're gonna send troops to Greenland to show Trump that they're not gonna stand for him taking Greenland.
• 43:29
  But in the meantime, do you think all these uh NATO countries are actually gonna they have a war going on on their continent?
• 43:38
  You have Russia attacking uh Ukraine, killing thousands and thousands of people, and where's NATO?
• 43:44
  Well, we're not gonna give them a bomb, we're not gonna give him a helicopter, we're not gonna, we're not, we're not getting involved.
• 43:49
  That's not a NATO country, but meantime, that could be the trigger of World War III in Europe again.
• 43:54
  And then who's gonna have to go save them again?
• 43:58
  The United States.
• 43:59
  Our young men and women are gonna have to go bleed and die and lose their limbs.
• 44:04
  Because it's important we have a free Europe.
• 44:06
  You know, I get it.
• 44:07
  It's it's important we have a free Europe.
• 44:09
  We can't have a Europe that is overrun by the the Russians and overrun by the Chinese, and we can't do that, just like we couldn't have the Nazis in charge of things.
• 44:19
  Well, in the bigger picture, and this is what I think a lot of people miss.
• 44:24
  Americans, we have a tendency to look at next Thursday.
• 44:27
  Like that seems pretty far down the road, next Thursday.
• 44:30
  But in reality, the Russians, the Chinese, our enemies have a tendency to have a much longer look down the road at things.
• 44:37
  They look down 25, 50, 100 years down the road.
• 44:41
  Where do they want to be?
• 44:42
  We don't do that.
• 44:43
  We're very short-sighted.
• 44:44
  We're very immediate goal-oriented.
• 44:48
  Our enemies are not.
• 44:49
  And Greenland would provide a great uh buffer for the United States.
• 44:56
  And why?
• 44:56
  Well, when you look, go get a map.
• 44:59
  Go get a map of the world and look at from the point of view from the top of the world, looking down.
• 45:04
  Not when we see the globe and United States on the left and Europe's on the right.
• 45:08
  Go up to the top.
• 45:09
  And when you go to the top, you see Canada, you see the Arctic, you see Greenland, you see Alaska, right?
• 45:16
  And then you over there, you see Russia, and they're very, very close over the top of the planet.
• 45:21
  That's where the missiles are gonna come from.
• 45:25
  Right?
• 45:25
  The missiles are gonna come right over the top to hit us, to hit Europe, to hit everything else.
• 45:30
  So we need to control that area.
• 45:34
  Now, some people will say, well, we already have military bases there, and we have a right to have military bases there.
• 45:41
  So why don't we just expand those bases?
• 45:44
  And I don't disagree with that.
• 45:46
  We all we already are there.
• 45:47
  So right now, what do we have?
• 45:49
  I'm gonna guess.
• 45:50
  I've heard a lot of reports.
• 45:52
  I'm gonna say we have 2,000 to 10,000 uh American military on Greenland at a couple of different bases.
• 46:00
  So what if President Trump was to say, I'm taking 25% of the military stationed all around the world in Europe and Asia and everywhere else, and I'm sending them all to Greenland, and it'll go from 2,000 soldiers to say, let's see, 150,000 soldiers, and we're gonna expand these bases.
• 46:19
  Would that be acceptable?
• 46:21
  Well, it might be.
• 46:23
  It's better than what we have right now, because I'm looking at our enemies who are, you know.
• 46:31
  We we I think, I think what I've seen is that as Americans, we get kind of stuck in this seeing the whole world through our American eyes.
• 46:41
  We think the whole rest of the world is America, sees justice the same way we see it, sees fairness the way we see it, sees compassion and love the way we see it, and that's not how the rest of the world is.
• 46:53
  The rest of the world is a cold, cruel, calculating way.
• 46:58
  Do you think do you think um the United States would purposely bomb a hospital where pregnant women are having babies to make our point?
• 47:11
  No, we would not.
• 47:13
  And if you're saying we would, then you really don't understand, or you got some other hatred going on in your heart.
• 47:19
  So when I look at that, and I say Trump is being very strong in everything he's doing.
• 47:26
  He's being very, very strong.
• 47:29
  And that that's really alarming a lot of people.
• 47:31
  Now, first of all, people do not understand Donald Trump.
• 47:36
  If you if you've watched him, he's a deal maker, he's a businessman, he gets things done.
• 47:41
  He doesn't sit around on his hands for years and years and years trying to figure out well, how do I put how do I put this building?
• 47:48
  He goes and builds the building.
• 47:50
  Well, as the president of the United States in his first term, I think it seemed to me that he kind of figured, hey, I won, I'm the president, I'm gonna fix these problems.
• 47:59
  He didn't realize he would get such pushback from uh, you know, uh the Democrats, but also from the Republicans, because you know what?
• 48:08
  Nobody wants the Apple cart to be uh to be they're all had living a great life.
• 48:14
  They're all and the Republicans for years.
• 48:16
  They could care less if they were the minority party.
• 48:19
  They had great lives going on, right?
• 48:23
  Okay, so what?
• 48:23
  We get outvoted and everything.
• 48:25
  Doesn't affect them or their families, does it?
• 48:28
  No, you think the politicians have a hard time.
• 48:31
  Look at Elon Omar.
• 48:33
  Elon Omar, big mouth uh who comes here, runs down our country, she gets elected.
• 48:38
  Okay, good for her, she got elected.
• 48:40
  She she used the system.
• 48:42
  We're told she was broke five or ten years ago, and now she came here penniless, and now she has 30 million dollars.
• 48:52
  Do you have 30 million dollars?
• 48:55
  Where did she get 30 million dollars on a 200,000 a year salary?
• 49:00
  Even if it's a I don't know, I don't have the date in front of me how long she's been a congressperson.
• 49:06
  It's probably not 10 years, maybe eight years.
• 49:07
  Let's say 10 now.
• 49:08
  Let's go with 10.
• 49:09
  200,000 a year salary.
• 49:11
  That's two million if she didn't spend a penny.
• 49:14
  How does she have 30 million dollars?
• 49:17
  And that's not just her, it's on both sides of the aisle.
• 49:20
  It's politicians.
• 49:21
  They got a cushy life, they end up with millions and millions of dollars, they live great lives that you and I don't live.
• 49:27
  That's why they don't want term limits, they don't want to go out, and that's why the Republicans, they don't care if they're in power or not.
• 49:34
  They just as long as they still got their gig, okay, that's good enough.
• 49:37
  And that's why I have a problem with these mealy mouth uh weak Republicans.
• 49:43
  And when Trump showed up and he got in there and started doing things, he upset the Alpa Court and the Democrats didn't like it because he was doing conservative things.
• 49:53
  You know, he was ghastly.
• 49:54
  He was protecting little innocent babies from getting killed.
• 49:58
  Oh my god, how could he do that, right?
• 50:00
  And the Republicans are like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you know, don't mess things up.
• 50:04
  You know, we got a good gig.
• 50:06
  And he realized that, wow, um, the the altruism part of I'm going to be the president, I'm going to fix the problems of our country, really don't match human nature.
• 50:17
  How people really function in the world when they have something at stake, right?
• 50:22
  So he gets, he gets knocked out of the office, and then he comes back.
• 50:26
  Now I think he knows how to play the politician game.
• 50:30
  And we see that he's very, very strong.
• 50:33
  His personality is strong.
• 50:35
  His uh goals are very strong.
• 50:37
  Um, he's not afraid to wield power.
• 50:41
  Now, our friends on the left call him a dictator because they're trying to scare everybody.
• 50:46
  Uh, he's trying to make, oh my God, look what the guy, what's he gonna do?
• 50:49
  What's he gonna do?
• 50:49
  Well, he's he's using power, and we've become, I don't want to say feminized in our country, but we certainly when someone's strong and they're powerful.
• 51:01
  We we really don't like that.
• 51:02
  You know, what who's this?
• 51:04
  He's gonna offend Europe.
• 51:06
  The European leaders, the people who will not fight for their own countries.
• 51:10
  They're gonna be offended at a strong American president and they're not gonna like what he's doing, and these people all all back them.
• 51:18
  So I heard President Trump say something in a speech recently.
• 51:23
  He said, you know, as far as NATO goes, and I think I I voice this opinion because this is what I I've thought is that if there is a problem in Europe, and NATO has to be activated, you know the United States is going.
• 51:37
  You know our men and women are gonna jump up in our equipment and they're gonna go there and fight and die in Europe.
• 51:45
  Turn the table, though.
• 51:46
  If America had a problem somewhere, are all those European countries gonna gear up and come help us?
• 51:55
  Uh I'm concerned.
• 51:57
  I don't think they will.
• 51:58
  I think they'll have 85 million reasons why they can't send enough people.
• 52:03
  They they, you know, they don't want to, they don't want to get involved in a hot conflict.
• 52:07
  The United States, you're gonna you're gonna fight.
• 52:09
  We well, we're willing to help, but we're we'll send you meals on wheels, but we're not gonna send tanks and we're not, we're not we don't like that.
• 52:17
  You see?
• 52:18
  And how does the rest of the world see that?
• 52:21
  And this is my point.
• 52:22
  The rest of the world is not America.
• 52:24
  The rest of the world lives and dies on strength.
• 52:29
  Right?
• 52:29
  And Trump comes along and he's very, very strong, and that makes everybody uncomfortable.
• 52:34
  And he's out there being the big dog and saying, hey, America is the big dog.
• 52:39
  So this very liberal fella I met the other day.
• 52:43
  He's very, really nice.
• 52:44
  I'm probably gonna introduce him to you at some point.
• 52:47
  Him and I got into some conversations, and I found him to be definitely absolutely a liberal socialist.
• 52:54
  Um he would even say maybe even a communist.
• 52:58
  But he he was he could think, and at least he could articulate his points of view.
• 53:06
  And when we got into arguments, he actually argued facts.
• 53:10
  Uh what he believed to be facts, but he he didn't start calling me names because he's losing the argument and start calling me, you know, I'm a this, some of that, I'm a hater, I'm a this guy, I don't like these people for color.
• 53:22
  I don't get none of that.
• 53:23
  That's all nonsense.
• 53:24
  That's the weakest arguments people can make.
• 53:27
  Why do they fall back on that?
• 53:29
  Because they can't make the case for what's in front of them.
• 53:32
  So this young man and I are talking.
• 53:34
  And he says to me, okay, so Trump is very strong.
• 53:37
  And he goes in and he gets Maduro.
• 53:40
  He kidnaps the president of another country, and he drags him out of there.
• 53:45
  Now he wants to go take Greenland.
• 53:47
  He's gonna march in there with the Marines and take Greenland away from the people who live there.
• 53:52
  And he's and then he's gonna, you know, he's gonna start a war over here.
• 53:55
  And I said, well, whoa whoa, well, first of all, first of all, you you have such Trump derangement syndrome, you can't see past the nonsense you're being told about the guy.
• 54:06
  Have you never watched how he tries to egg people on and he makes deals?
• 54:11
  If he had no history of making deals, either as a private citizen or as president, I could say, well, I'm a little concerned with what he said there, because I don't know how this is gonna come out.
• 54:22
  When we look at him, we have to say, has he said caustic things?
• 54:26
  Has he said strange things, off the wall things?
• 54:29
  Has he has he had some unorthodox ways of getting people's goat and pushing people around and getting them to do things?
• 54:37
  Yes.
• 54:37
  But is NATO now paying five percent?
• 54:41
  Yes, they are.
• 54:42
  Are are people now looking at the United States as uh, hey, yeah, I don't like this guy, he's too strong, but you better does anybody believe today, like him or not, that if Donald Trump says he's gonna do something, that he's gonna do it?
• 54:57
  Yeah, I think we've all learned that lesson by now.
• 55:00
  So here he is out there being strong, and people are panicked by it, they're scared by it.
• 55:06
  And he comes out and says, Well, America is the big dog, and the big dog is tired of getting stepped on, and the big dog is gonna make new rules.
• 55:14
  Now, this is where my liberal friend says to me, he goes, okay, so Trump's gonna make new rules, tell everyone to follow in behind, or he's gonna hurt them somehow, uh, invade them uh, or uh put tariffs on them and hurt their economy.
• 55:29
  What is the difference between Putin when Putin says, I'm the big dog, you'll do what I say, or I'll come after you and I'll get you.
• 55:35
  What is the difference in the two?
• 55:39
  And I gotta tell you, I was I was really surprised.
• 55:43
  You know, sometimes you think when you when the way you see the world, you think other people would see the same things that you see.
• 55:51
  And I said to him, well, here's the difference.
• 55:54
  Here's the difference.
• 55:55
  Both men are strong.
• 55:58
  Both men are using their power and their position to do the things they they want to do or they think are right.
• 56:06
  I said the difference is the history of America is that we do things for the good, right?
• 56:14
  We do things for the good.
• 56:16
  Trump is not trying to do things so that he can uh embolden himself or turn himself into a dictator, or he's gonna declare himself the king, or he's gonna put billions of dollars in his bank account.
• 56:26
  He's trying to do things to help the world be safe and help America be strong and our way of life, which if you're sitting there taking notes because you're you're a crybaby liberal in the basement and you don't like that.
• 56:40
  America is the best place on the planet.
• 56:43
  We can fix our problems, but it is the best place on the planet, and Trump sees that and he wants to make it greater.
• 56:49
  Putin, on the other hand, will use his power to get what he wants for him personally, but he will also blow up a hospital with young mothers in it having babies.
• 57:00
  He will blow up, he will target specifically an apartment complex and kill people.
• 57:05
  He'll blow up a school on purpose to teach people a lesson.
• 57:10
  See, so power, how it's wielded may look the same, but the reasons that power is wielded makes a difference.
• 57:20
  Right?
• 57:21
  So we need to open our eyes here to the bigger world, not just what we see in America, not Trump derangement syndrome.
• 57:28
  We have to look around and say, where are we headed as a nation and how do we protect ourselves now so our grandchildren don't have to fight and die in the streets of America?
• 57:40
  All right, everybody, thanks for being here.
• 57:42
  Uh I'll see you again very, very shortly.
• 57:44
  This is the human equation with Joe Fanger.