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The Butler Files: What the Biden FBI Kept Hidden for Two Years · The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson

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  Speaker 1: In that investigation, I think we looked at some 27 devices,
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  Speaker 1: exfiltrated all the data off of them, looked for connections
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  Speaker 1: to individuals in America and overseas, and we found no
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  Speaker 1: evidence that that individual was literally even speaking to any
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  Speaker 1: other human being other than his parents who he resided with.
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  Speaker 2: And so.
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  Speaker 1: That's sort of where we're at.
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  Speaker 3: You're listening to the 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson.
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  Speaker 4: Good Wednesday morning.
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  Speaker 5: It's nice to have you with us on the 47
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  Speaker 5: Morning Update. And we start with explosive new details about
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  Speaker 5: the gunman who tried to assassinate Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 5: A secret alias, yeah, several of them, suspicious gun purchases,
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  Speaker 5: and an anonymous donor who paid to cremate his body.
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  Speaker 5: So what did investigators know, and why are we only
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  Speaker 5: learning about it two years later? I've got all the
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  Speaker 5: details for you, and I'm going to break it down.
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  Speaker 5: right now. It's the 47 Morning Update and it starts
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  Speaker 5: right now.
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  Speaker 3: Story number one.
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  Speaker 5: More than two years after President Donald Trump came within
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  Speaker 5: inches of being killed on a stage in Butler, Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 5: We are learning significant new details about the 20-year-old gunman,
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  Speaker 5: Thomas Matthew Crooks. Details that raise new questions about what
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  Speaker 5: investigators knew, when did they know it, and why so
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  Speaker 5: much information took this long to become public. Now, the
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  Speaker 5: Attorney General, Todd Blanche, confirmed on Tuesday that the FBI
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  Speaker 5: has uncovered additional information about the shooter, specifically about his
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  Speaker 5: background and history that was not previously known publicly. In fact,
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  Speaker 5: hundreds of pages of FBI material have also been turned
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  Speaker 5: over to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley as part
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  Speaker 5: of the continuing congressional investigation. And some of what is
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  Speaker 5: emerging was extraordinary. First, investigators learned that Crooks was using
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  Speaker 5: aliases well before the shooting. According to the records, Crooks
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  Speaker 5: had packages delivered under the names Bob Dole. Yes, that's
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  Speaker 5: the name of the late Republican senator and presidential nominee.
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  Speaker 5: His father reportedly told investigators that his son would retrieve
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  Speaker 5: packages addressed to that alias before his father returned home
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  Speaker 5: from working late. This adds detail to something the FBI
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  Speaker 5: had previously acknowledged. Beginning in the spring of 2023, Crooks
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  Speaker 5: made more than 25 firearms-related purchases online. using aliases and
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  Speaker 5: during the first half of 2024 he also made six
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  Speaker 5: online purchases involving chemical precursors that investigators say were used
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  Speaker 5: and the explosive devices later recovered from his car and
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  Speaker 5: home reuters is also now reporting that the newly disclosed
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  Speaker 5: records say that crooks purchased parts and tools through amazon
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  Speaker 5: intended to increase his rifles capacity So this wasn't simply
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  Speaker 5: a kid who woke up on a Saturday morning, grabbed
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  Speaker 5: a rifle, and drove to a political rally. The FBI's
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  Speaker 5: own timeline has shown extensive preparation. In fact, Crooks registered
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  Speaker 5: for the Trump rally on July 6th of 2024, the
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  Speaker 5: same day. Investigators say he searched online for how far
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  Speaker 5: Lee Harvey Oswald was from JFK when Kennedy was assassinated.
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  Speaker 5: The next day, July 7th, Crooks drove to the Butler
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  Speaker 5: rally site and spent roughly 20 minutes around the area,
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  Speaker 5: including near the AGR buildings. The FBI characterized that trip
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  Speaker 5: as an apparent advanced surveillance mission. Then, on the day
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  Speaker 5: of the rally, he returned. He flew a drone near
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  Speaker 5: the rally site for 11 minutes. Later, police identified him
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  Speaker 5: as a suspicious person. Officers even photographed him. He was
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  Speaker 5: observed using a range finder and eventually climbed onto the
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  Speaker 5: AGR complex roof, where he obtained a direct line of
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  Speaker 5: sight towards President Donald Trump. We know what happened next.
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  Speaker 5: At approximately 6.11 p.m., a local police officer was boosted
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  Speaker 5: onto the roof and encountered Crooks. Crooks pointed his rifle
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  Speaker 5: at the officer. The officer dropped back down. And roughly
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  Speaker 5: 25 to 30 seconds later, that is when Crooks opened
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  Speaker 5: fire on the president. Eight rounds and one striking Donald
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  Speaker 5: Trump in the ear. Rally attendee Corey Comparator was killed.
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  Speaker 5: Two other men were seriously wounded. A Secret Service counter
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  Speaker 5: sniper then killed Crooks. But the new records also paint
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  Speaker 5: a more detailed picture of the shooter himself. In fact,
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  Speaker 5: here's part of how Fox News Channel talked about the
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  Speaker 5: new information that was being released.
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  Speaker 7: Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley wants more answers. He is
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  Speaker 7: digging in hard on this. And he has shared some
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  Speaker 7: yet to be released information. FBI files about the would-be
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  Speaker 7: assassin Thomas Crooks with the New York Post. So some
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  Speaker 7: people are getting to see these documents, and they include
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  Speaker 7: extensive interviews with Thomas Crooks' father. He described his son
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  Speaker 7: having difficulty expressing his emotions.
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  Speaker 4: Here's a quote.
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  Speaker 7: When Thomas was born, he did not scream, and he
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  Speaker 7: was always quiet from that point. We never really had
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  Speaker 7: a father-son bond. He also details a growing obsession with guns.
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  Speaker 7: Andy recounts Thomas asking if he would need to undergo
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  Speaker 7: a background check to buy a Glock pistol. He also
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  Speaker 7: says he witnessed his son on camera in the family's garage, quote, Arming,
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  Speaker 7: arms going up and down, frantically talking and not making
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  Speaker 7: any sense while cleaning one of his guns.
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  Speaker 5: Now, there's so much new evidence that has come out
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  Speaker 5: of what has just been released, and it's completely blown
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  Speaker 5: up the Thomas Crook's narrative. By the way, as part
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  Speaker 5: of what we've learned, there was two mystery men that
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  Speaker 5: were with him at a gun store weeks before the
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  Speaker 5: Butler shootings. Another unidentified man we also learned trained with
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  Speaker 5: him the day before the shooting. Even more damning, an
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  Speaker 5: anonymous donor. Yes, an anonymous donor paid for the cremation. Now,
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  Speaker 5: who paid and what are they hiding? This is just
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  Speaker 5: some of the information that we're just now finding out about.
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  Speaker 5: Even Fox News' Brett Baer saying how frustrating it is
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  Speaker 5: to be in the media and the lack of information
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  Speaker 5: we received over the last two years.
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  Speaker 8: There's a story that's always frustrated me because it's been
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  Speaker 8: so long, and we finally are getting a.
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  Speaker 4: Little bit more information, but not a lot.
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  Speaker 8: The documents say that Thomas Crookes had 27 devices. 27
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  Speaker 8: devices they combed through?
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  Speaker 4: I have four, maybe. It's a crazy story.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, first of all, Donald Trump has suffered more
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  Speaker 9: assassination attempts than any president in American history. And the
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  Speaker 9: idea that this is two years on and we know
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  Speaker 9: almost nothing about this guy or what his motivations were
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  Speaker 9: is ridiculous. On the other hand, we're still debating the
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  Speaker 9: motivations of Lee Harvey Oswald. There are movies made about
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  Speaker 9: Lee Harvey Oswald and conspiracy theories about him. He actually
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  Speaker 9: succeeded in killing a president. So it's not unprecedented that
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  Speaker 9: we would be debating for decades the reason why someone
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  Speaker 9: tried to kill an American president.
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  Speaker 8: But it is a shame. Here is the FBI director
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  Speaker 8: on this.
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  Speaker 1: In that investigation, I think we looked at some 27 devices,
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  Speaker 1: exfiltrated all the data off of them, looked for connections
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  Speaker 1: to individuals in America and overseas, and we found no
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  Speaker 1: evidence that that individual was literally even speaking to any
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  Speaker 1: other human being other than his parents who he resided with.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's sort of where we're at.
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  Speaker 6: Seth?
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  Speaker 10: I mean, that's just remarkable to hear. I'm with you.
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  Speaker 10: There's so many questions. It's remarkable to be at this
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  Speaker 10: place and still really have so few answers, even when
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  Speaker 10: you have, you know, Trump's own selected leadership at the
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  Speaker 10: DOJ and FBI, who are, of course, prioritizing getting to
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  Speaker 10: the bottom of this. And, you know, they can criticize
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  Speaker 10: the past, you know, leadership of the FBI and DOJ,
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  Speaker 10: but we still don't have any questions on this, any
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  Speaker 10: answers to these questions.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, is the FBI director up in the Senate Judiciary,
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  Speaker 8: have been also frustrating because it's sometimes just a yelling
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  Speaker 8: past each other.
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  Speaker 4: Now, you go back to just some of what we learned.
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  Speaker 5: The father described his own son as extremely intelligent, but
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  Speaker 5: intensely isolated. According to documents, his father said his son, quote,
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  Speaker 5: never identified anyone as a friend throughout middle school.
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  Speaker 4: And high school.
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  Speaker 5: He interacted with classmates, but apparently told his father they
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  Speaker 5: weren't actually any of his friends. These newly unclassified material
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  Speaker 5: reportedly describes him as someone who rarely displayed strong emotion
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  Speaker 5: and was difficult even with his own family to read.
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  Speaker 5: His family told investigators the assassination attempt came as a
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  Speaker 5: complete surprise. And then there's another strange disclosure. According to
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  Speaker 5: the records, an anonymous donor paid for the cremation. The
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  Speaker 5: documents do not publicly identify that donor. They indicate the
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  Speaker 5: Crooks family apparently lacked the money for funeral arrangements. And
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  Speaker 5: a family attorney told investigators that an unidentified donor covered
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  Speaker 5: the cremation.
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  Speaker 4: The fact is, by.
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  Speaker 5: The way, particularly noteworthy because questions had already been raised
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  Speaker 5: about how quickly Crook's remains were released. The FBI has
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  Speaker 5: defended the process. It says an autopsy was performed.
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  Speaker 4: The necessary evidence was collected.
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  Speaker 5: And Pennsylvania authorities and the FBI agreed the remains could
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  Speaker 5: be released to the family. The autopsy determined that Crooks
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  Speaker 5: died from a single gunshot wound to the head and
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  Speaker 5: toxicology testing was negative for alcohol and drug abuse. Now,
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  Speaker 5: there are also other details that have emerged through separate
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  Speaker 5: FBI records released as well. Records obtained through litigation earlier
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  Speaker 5: this year include a first responders account that a SWAT
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  Speaker 5: officer removed a gray remote device from an antenna and
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  Speaker 5: a cell phone from Crooks pocket on the roof. The
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  Speaker 5: FBI had previously disclosed that explosive devices capable of detonating
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  Speaker 5: were discovered inside of Crook's vehicle, although investigators said their
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  Speaker 5: receivers were switched off. And after all of this, the aliases,
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  Speaker 5: the gun purchases, the explosive materials, the Oswald search, the
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  Speaker 5: reconnaissance trip, the drone flight, the range finder, and the
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  Speaker 5: preparations that were methodical, There remains a major question that
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  Speaker 5: is still unanswered. Why? More than two years later, investigators
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  Speaker 5: say they still have not established Crook's motive. The investigation
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  Speaker 5: has concluded that Crook's acted alone. And what's even more
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  Speaker 5: interesting is the investigations have concluded that that crooks acted
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  Speaker 5: alone and have not produced evidence that Democrats or any
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  Speaker 5: political organization directed the attack. But President Trump has alleged
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  Speaker 5: that the shooting was a Democratic plot. So are there
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  Speaker 5: a lot of unanswered questions? Yeah. Jesse Waters on Fox
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  Speaker 5: News brought up a few of those as well.
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  Speaker 6: Seconds.
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  Speaker 12: That's all a bullet needed to almost blow Trump's head off.
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  Speaker 12: But for two years, we didn't really know exactly why. Tonight,
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  Speaker 12: we know some more. We've got the Butler files, or
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  Speaker 12: what we're allowed to see. and they start before Thomas
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  Speaker 12: Crooks could even walk. When Thomas was born, he did
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  Speaker 12: not scream, and he was always quiet from that point on,
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  Speaker 12: his father Matthew told the feds. 20 years later, Crooks
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  Speaker 12: took the shot, and the rifle that nearly killed the
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  Speaker 12: president came straight out of his dad's gun safe. The
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  Speaker 12: dad didn't fully trust Thomas. He changed the code after
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  Speaker 12: catching his son, watching him over his shoulder, but then
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  Speaker 12: handed him the rifle the morning of the shooting, thinking
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  Speaker 12: he was headed to the range. That range is where
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  Speaker 12: he trained to be a sniper. He started out a
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  Speaker 12: terrible shot, couldn't even hit the paper. Five years later,
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  Speaker 12: he could hit a target from over 100 yards out.
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  Speaker 12: His dad noticed, and when he asked why he was
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  Speaker 12: shooting out so far, Crooks answered like a killer. He
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  Speaker 12: wanted to see how far he could shoot with rudimentary sights.
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  Speaker 12: and the kid who supposedly left no digital footprint, he
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  Speaker 12: was quietly ordering rifle upgrades under a fake name.
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  Speaker 4: You ready? Bob Dole. That was the alias.
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  Speaker 12: The packages shipped under that name, and they contained parts
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  Speaker 12: to make his dad's rifle more lethal.
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  Speaker 4: And that's not all.
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  Speaker 12: Days after Butler, an anonymous donor quietly paid to have Crooks'
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  Speaker 12: body cremated before Congress could even take a second look. Now,
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  Speaker 12: that detail apparently just buried in a one-line note at
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  Speaker 12: the very bottom of the FBI file. So five years
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  Speaker 12: at the range, fake name, rifle from dad, and a
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  Speaker 12: stranger who paid to burn the body.
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  Speaker 4: And the motive?
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  Speaker 12: Somehow still a complete mystery. Trump knows who to blame. Quote,
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  Speaker 12: everybody knows the crooked Joe Biden FBI didn't do what
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  Speaker 12: they should have with respect to the lunatic who shot
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  Speaker 12: me in Butler, PA. By the time I got into
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  Speaker 12: office on January 20th, most of the information was missing, altered, corrupted,
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  Speaker 12: or gone. New info was just found. Why wasn't it
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  Speaker 12: seen long ago? This was all a Democrat plot to
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  Speaker 12: get me out of the election that failed.
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  Speaker 5: Now, President Trump is absolutely right. There are legitimate, unanswered
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  Speaker 5: questions surrounding Butler. There were not only catastrophic security failures...
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  Speaker 5: And there's this newly disclosed information about the shooter that
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  Speaker 5: the American public is only now seeing.
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  Speaker 4: So what are they hiding?
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 5: That's the question everyone's asking. And by the way, there's
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  Speaker 5: still no publicly established motive. Those are the facts. And
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  Speaker 5: perhaps the biggest question is this. Why is it that
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  Speaker 5: it took us this long just to get to this point?
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  Speaker 5: And also, how can a 20 year old spend months
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  Speaker 5: buying gun equipment under aliases, including Bob Dole, obtain bomb
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  Speaker 5: making materials, research presidential assassinations, conduct surveillance of a presidential
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  Speaker 5: campaign rally? Fly a drone around that rally while it's happening.
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  Speaker 5: Get photographed by the police as a suspicious person. Then
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  Speaker 5: climb onto a roof with a rifle and still get
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  Speaker 5: eight shots off at a former president of the United
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  Speaker 5: States of America. Two years later, we as Americans are
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  Speaker 5: still learning important facts about Butler. And we're still waiting
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  Speaker 5: for the complete story. But if you go back to
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  Speaker 5: what President Trump said, he's absolutely right. We didn't get
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  Speaker 5: all the information. In fact, a lot of the information
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  Speaker 5: disappeared before he was able to get sworn in as
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  Speaker 5: the 47th president of the United States of America. That
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  Speaker 5: is a really big problem. And when it comes back
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  Speaker 5: to the issue of trust, and specifically trust in the
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  Speaker 5: deep state. Well, now you understand why no one trusts
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  Speaker 5: the deep state. Because there's so many things like this
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  Speaker 5: that happen where answers should.
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  Speaker 4: Be pretty easy to get.
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  Speaker 5: Information should be easily available to get out to the public.
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  Speaker 5: And it shouldn't take two plus years for us to
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  Speaker 5: get to where we are right now.
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  Speaker 3: Pause.
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  Speaker 6: Pause.
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  Speaker 5: Which brings me to something else I want you to hear.
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  Speaker 5: Senator Mike Lee was speaking with the FBI Director Kash Patel.
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  Speaker 5: And here is what the Republican Senator from Utah had
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  Speaker 5: to say.
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  Speaker 11: We're now a little more than two years after the
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  Speaker 11: fortunately unsuccessful assassination attempt on President Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 11: And yet as we sit here today, I think neither
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  Speaker 11: the American people nor this committee can claim to have
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  Speaker 11: anything approaching a robust understanding of Thomas Crooks, who he was,
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  Speaker 11: how he came as close to succeeding as he did
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  Speaker 11: that day. Thank heavens that he didn't. But what can
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  Speaker 11: you tell us about what you've learned about Thomas Crooks
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  Speaker 11: and the status of that investigation and the timing of
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  Speaker 11: any release to the public?
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  Speaker 1: Well, The FBI's review of that matter is in support
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  Speaker 1: of the United States Secret Service, who are obviously the
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  Speaker 1: lead because it relates to a matter involving the president
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  Speaker 1: of the United States, a Secret Service protectee. We've put
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  Speaker 1: out and provided all the information to not only the
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  Speaker 1: Secret Service but relevant committees of jurisdiction that we are
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  Speaker 1: lawfully able to release. As you said, thankfully, that assassination
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  Speaker 1: attempt was unsuccessful. And I would defer to my colleagues
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  Speaker 1: at DHS in terms of the security measures surrounding that
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  Speaker 1: incidence and what upgrades they've made. We will continue to,
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  Speaker 1: as we did in that investigation, I think we looked
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  Speaker 1: at some 27 devices, exfiltrated all the data off of them,
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  Speaker 1: looked for connections to individuals in America and overseas, and
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  Speaker 1: we found no evidence that that individual was literally even
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  Speaker 1: speaking to any other human being other than his parents
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  Speaker 1: who he resided with.
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  Speaker 5: So we know he lived with his parents, but why
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  Speaker 5: did it take us so long just to find that out?
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  Speaker 5: And Todd Blanche was asked by a reporter at the
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  Speaker 5: White House today about the investigation as well.
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  Speaker 4: And here's what he had to say.
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  Speaker 6: Earlier today, President Trump said that there was new evidence
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  Speaker 6: in the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. He said it
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  Speaker 6: was a Democratic plot. Moments later, Kash Patel testified that
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  Speaker 6: the shooter wasn't speaking to anyone other than his parents.
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  Speaker 6: Can you please explain both how this was a Democratic
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  Speaker 6: plot and what this new evidence is? And a second question,
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  Speaker 6: which is in the same post, he said that Christopher
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  Speaker 6: Wray should be punished for his lack of oversight during
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  Speaker 6: this investigation. Is the Justice Department considering bringing charges against
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  Speaker 6: Chris Wray?
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  Speaker 4: So the Department of Justice doesn't punish, by the way. So, look, I.
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  Speaker 2: I was with President Trump during the time period before
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  Speaker 2: and after the attempted assassination attempt on his life, and
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  Speaker 2: he was shot. He was a victim.
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  Speaker 4: There was an innocent man killed.
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  Speaker 2: There were other people who were very seriously injured when
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  Speaker 2: that happened. What President Trump said today about the new information,
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  Speaker 2: and this new information is information that that we found,
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  Speaker 2: that the FBI found, that produced to the Senate in
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: response to inquiries that they had. It is new information
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  Speaker 2: about the shooter and about his background, about his history,
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  Speaker 2: and that's stuff that we didn't know before. So that's
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: the new information. As far as the president's frustration with
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: the FBI, I was there with him.
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  Speaker 3: I lived it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you have a situation where it's not really
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  Speaker 2: clear what the leadership of the FBI were doing in
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  Speaker 2: the weeks and months ahead of the attempted assassination to
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  Speaker 2: protect President Trump. That's the same organization that was simultaneously
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: trying to put him in prison until he dies. So
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: his frustration and concern about what the former director was
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  Speaker 2: doing is something that is not new.
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  Speaker 4: He said that for a very long time.
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  Speaker 2: I was with him during the investigation and before he
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  Speaker 2: was elected president. trying to understand what happened and why.
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  Speaker 2: And Director Patel has undertaken a Herculean effort to go
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  Speaker 2: through all the documents and understand what was missed, if anything,
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  Speaker 2: and to provide anything that hadn't come forward to the
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  Speaker 2: American people to the American people.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what he's done.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, last question.
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  Speaker 5: So there you have it. A lot more questions. Thank
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: goodness we're finally starting to get some answers. And the
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: president is obviously demanding we get a lot more information
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  Speaker 5: moving forward.
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