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10-20-26 Hour 3 - Avs fall to the Flyers, Cowherd on Bo Nix/Adam Schefter/DeMar DeRozan already impressive · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: Mosher Lombardi and Kane back here on this Tuesday. Abs
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  Speaker 2: back in action tonight against the New Jersey Devils. A
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  Speaker 2: very strange team. Trip to the East Coast, Vic, with
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  Speaker 2: back-to-back games against Philly and the Devils and then back home. Typically,
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  Speaker 2: the league will not send a team a couple time
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  Speaker 2: zones over to play back-to-back games, but here we are.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sitting in beautiful New Jersey right now and headed
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  Speaker 2: to Newark later on this afternoon as the Avs look
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  Speaker 2: to get back on track. And Scott Wedgwood will be
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  Speaker 2: between the pipes tonight as the Avs look to make
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  Speaker 2: up for That gross game last night.
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  Speaker 3: And they did it the last time they had a back-to-back, right?
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  Speaker 3: From Winnipeg to Calgary. The next night they played so
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  Speaker 3: much better and they walloped to the flames. Do you
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  Speaker 3: think a little bit of that pride will come into
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  Speaker 3: play tonight against a Jersey team?
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  Speaker 2: I think it has to. I mean, if it doesn't,
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  Speaker 2: then there's something going on. I mean, I think that
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  Speaker 2: after what we saw last night and sort of playing
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  Speaker 2: into the hands of the a Flyers team that was
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  Speaker 2: really beat up, you know. But, look, they still have
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  Speaker 2: some young talent. I mean, Mitch Koff is a terrific
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  Speaker 2: young player. Had a bit of a backstep year last year,
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  Speaker 2: but this guy has got all kinds of talent. So, yes,
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  Speaker 2: I would expect a much better performance tonight. By the way, Brett,
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  Speaker 2: we got to the end of Oh, By the Way,
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  Speaker 2: and I neglected to say something. You know Mario Lemieux,
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  Speaker 2: one of the greatest hockey players of all time, right? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: His son Austin is playing– In his first PDGA Tour tournament,
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  Speaker 2: he shot a 66. The kid's 30. He's an amateur,
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  Speaker 2: but he's going to be playing on the PGA Tour.
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  Speaker 2: Just wanted to let you know that. Got in on
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  Speaker 2: a Monday qualifier. He did. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I never knew that he had a kid that good
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  Speaker 3: at golf.
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  Speaker 2: Not me either. So anyway, the Avs are back in
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  Speaker 2: action tonight, and they need to get back at it.
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  Speaker 2: That was just not good in any capacity.
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  Speaker 4: This is what Bednar said after the game.
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  Speaker 5: Sluggish and sloppy. Execution was a big factor for us
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  Speaker 5: tonight in the pace that we were playing at. It
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  Speaker 5: was sloppy. It was like passes weren't good. Handling passes
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  Speaker 5: weren't good. It's hard to go anywhere when you're meeting
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  Speaker 5: the puck up, you know, and that's what I thought
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  Speaker 5: we did for the bulk of the game. And then
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  Speaker 5: When we started to execute a little bit, we just
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  Speaker 5: made it too easy on them. Not enough traffic to
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  Speaker 5: the net, not enough pucks going to the net, not
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  Speaker 5: doing enough to create offense.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and here's the thing. We've seen the Avs over
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  Speaker 4: and over again. They've been a team that outshoots their
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  Speaker 4: opponent by 15 or 20 shots. They're capable of doing it.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't do it last night, despite the fact that
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  Speaker 4: the Flyers are a team that allows, I think, the team,
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  Speaker 4: that allows the most shots in the league, this is
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  Speaker 4: what Bednar said.
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  Speaker 5: I just explained it. They can be giving up 100
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  Speaker 5: shots a game if you don't shoot the puck.
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  Speaker 2: And you don't go.
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  Speaker 5: To the net.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to get it. Shoot the puck. That's it.
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  Speaker 2: You can talk about shooting until the cows come home,
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  Speaker 2: but unless you put the pucks on net, Philly averaged
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  Speaker 2: only 21.2 shots per game going into that game. They
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  Speaker 2: finished with 24, and that's when they had 13 in
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  Speaker 2: the first period. Outshots you 13-8. They got two power
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  Speaker 2: plays out of it, so that helps the cause. But, man,
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  Speaker 2: it just was an ugly, yucky, mucky, blah, blah, blah game.
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  Speaker 2: It was just not good, dude.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why I'm not hell-bent on that goalie interference
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  Speaker 3: call that went against the Avs again like the other two.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter because you played so poorly against that team.
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  Speaker 3: It should not have mattered, right? You can make the
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  Speaker 3: case that it should not have been goalie interference. Yeah, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 3: Don't let it be the deciding factor in the game.
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  Speaker 3: Just don't let it get to that.
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  Speaker 4: Here's Bednar on that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's goalie interference. I think, like, Manson, like,
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  Speaker 5: lifts his stick and bumps him a little bit, and
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  Speaker 5: he doesn't make an effort to avoid the goal. He
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  Speaker 5: just stays in there. It's like he's in there too
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  Speaker 5: long and causing too much, you know, disruption on the goalie.
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  Speaker 5: So I thought it was goalie interference. They didn't think so,
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  Speaker 5: so this is.
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  Speaker 2: What he did.
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  Speaker 5: He just pulled off the penalty and go again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you just said last night.
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead. Well, I said last night that I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what I don't know anymore. I thought I had
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  Speaker 2: a handle on it at one point, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what I don't know because I've seen, and this
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  Speaker 2: is not sour grapes. I've seen, you know, I've seen
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  Speaker 2: less called goalie interference and I've seen more not called.
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  Speaker 2: Does that make sense? So I don't, I just don't
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  Speaker 2: know what I don't know. And so to me now,
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  Speaker 2: it's just an absolute guessing game. And Riker thought that
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  Speaker 2: they would uphold the, the non that it would be
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  Speaker 2: a good goal because he was afraid that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Manson bump, uh, caused all of that. I thought
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  Speaker 2: he could get out of the way and he's laying
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  Speaker 2: all over Blackwood. You know, when can you get out
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  Speaker 2: of the crease? When can't you get out of the crease?
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  Speaker 2: These are all just incredibly gray areas, but look, it's
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  Speaker 2: either way. You should have played a better hockey game.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: You should have played a better.
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  Speaker 4: Game to the idea of, you know, pucks on net,
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  Speaker 4: that sort of thing. Um, It feels like a prime example,
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  Speaker 4: and he's been somebody that has been culpable of doing
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  Speaker 4: this in the past. The prime example of that was
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the game. You got the extra
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  Speaker 4: attacker on the ice, and Marty Natchez is sitting there
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  Speaker 4: between him and the goalie. And instead of shooting when
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  Speaker 4: it's all hands on deck, he kicks it back to
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  Speaker 4: McKinnon over towards the blue line, passes a little bit
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  Speaker 4: behind him. Now they got a reset. I think that's
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  Speaker 4: a perfect example of it. It's, you know, Vic, it's
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  Speaker 4: a fast break. You can take the easy layup, or
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  Speaker 4: you can try and dish it out for a corner
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  Speaker 4: three or something. It's like, just take the easy thing.
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  Speaker 3: Fire the rocket. And I get it. You know, the
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  Speaker 3: discussion was, well, did he have a shooting lane? Sometimes
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  Speaker 3: you don't need a shooting lane. Sometimes the puck will
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  Speaker 3: find it. Or it finds a bounce.
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  Speaker 2: It finds somebody in front.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't the time nor the place to get fancy.
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  Speaker 3: The clock is ticking here.
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  Speaker 2: It's ticking.
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  Speaker 3: It's ticking. Just put it on net. Man, I was
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  Speaker 3: going crazy last.
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  Speaker 2: Night watching that. And by the way, it comes down to,
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  Speaker 2: you say that play at the extra attacker situation should
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  Speaker 2: have been handled in the first 57 minutes of the game,
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  Speaker 2: 58 minutes of the game.
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  Speaker 3: Shouldn't come to that. Right.
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  Speaker 2: So, again, against a team that had one win on
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  Speaker 2: the season, they were coming off it, 3-1-1 against Ottawa.
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  Speaker 2: But it's a team right now that's incredibly injured and
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  Speaker 2: not very good. You've got guys playing up in the
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  Speaker 2: lineup that shouldn't be. but they have to because that's
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  Speaker 2: all they got right now. Let me explain, too, a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about what they did. Just a frustrating effort overall.
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  Speaker 2: They out-hit the Avs 26-16, and the shot blocks were 24-15,
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  Speaker 2: all in favor of Philadelphia. The Avs had 16 giveaways
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  Speaker 2: in that game last night compared to six for Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 2: So when Bednar talks about sloppy, he talks about sloppy,
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  Speaker 2: and he talks about What, the 3S is stubborn? Sluggish.
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  Speaker 2: Sluggish and sloppy. That's what it was, yes.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they get back at it tonight, and we have
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  Speaker 4: pregame at 4.30. It's powered by Ramos Law with Birdo,
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  Speaker 4: and then Connor gets things going shortly after 5. The
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  Speaker 4: Avs and your drive home is today, right here on 92.5,
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  Speaker 4: as they take on the Devils.
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  Speaker 2: Incidentally, I am fully confident. that the effort tonight and
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  Speaker 2: the focus tonight will be much better than it was.
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  Speaker 4: This feels like a game you win by four goals.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it feels like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the Devils come in an even 500
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  Speaker 2: team on the season.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, as we get ready to talk to Schefter here
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  Speaker 4: in about 10 minutes, can I play you some Colin
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  Speaker 4: Cowherd audio from yesterday as he was talking about Bo
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  Speaker 4: Nixon and the Broncos and where they're at overall? He
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  Speaker 4: said this.
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  Speaker 6: What a testament to Sean Payton to win that game.
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  Speaker 6: From two minutes left in the second quarter, To the
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  Speaker 6: end of the game, Denver averaged 53 inches per play.
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  Speaker 6: The Broncos offense, folks, can be measured in inches. Tesla
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  Speaker 6: has flying cars and Bo Nix can't complete one dig route.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Sean Payton, his patience is being tested. Bo Nix had
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  Speaker 6: zero completions all night past the sticks.
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  Speaker 4: I've never heard of that. That's because it doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 4: So there's another thing I want to play here, but
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  Speaker 4: I know he's boys with Sean to act like Sean
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  Speaker 4: is not at least a little bit culpable for that
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  Speaker 4: stat is pretty crazy considering he's the play caller. You
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Like this, this is on you.
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  Speaker 4: The coach doesn't get to say, Hey man, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on either. The fact that
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  Speaker 4: Sean continues to reiterate as he did yesterday that We
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  Speaker 4: got to open things up in the run game. Well,
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  Speaker 4: why isn't that happening? And it's the offensive line is
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  Speaker 4: a very weird discussion. I'm told they're awesome. They're the
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  Speaker 4: highest paid offensive line in the league. Look, they haven't,
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  Speaker 4: but Garrett Bulls hasn't given up a sack in 2000
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  Speaker 4: snaps or whatever it is. Well, then why can't we
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  Speaker 4: generate a hole in the running game? Again, I think
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  Speaker 4: part of this is maybe the running backs just aren't
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  Speaker 4: very good right now at finding these, these holes in
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  Speaker 4: lanes at the same time. Moj, I'm watching last night.
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  Speaker 4: I'm watching those two teams. There are multiple plays a
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  Speaker 4: game where they are running through open creases and not
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  Speaker 4: being touched by anybody until they hit a linebacker or
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  Speaker 4: a secondary player.
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  Speaker 2: Why can't he just come on out and say, why
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  Speaker 2: can't Cowherd? He's his own guy. I mean, he's very
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  Speaker 2: popular national guy. Why can't he just come out and say,
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  Speaker 2: you know what? Vance Joseph's defense kicked ass. And if
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't for Vance Joseph in that defense and those
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  Speaker 2: guys next man up mentality, which sounds cliche, but it's
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  Speaker 2: also frigging true. Yeah. If they don't show up every
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  Speaker 2: single week, the way they have shown up, the Broncos
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  Speaker 2: are in serious trouble. Why can't he just say that?
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  Speaker 2: We know what the offense is. We know the offense sucks.
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  Speaker 2: It's the defense saving their ass repeatedly week after week
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  Speaker 2: after week after week after week.
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  Speaker 3: Did you guys read the post today? There's an article,
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  Speaker 3: I believe it was Sean Keeler who had it on
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  Speaker 3: a couple different psychologists. He's talking about Bo Nix and
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  Speaker 3: how he could psychologize his way out of this and
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  Speaker 3: what he's thinking of. And it really, for me, It
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  Speaker 3: told me what I've been thinking and what I've been
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  Speaker 3: wondering is when you have an injury, and I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if this is a chronic injury or not. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if this is one that has come up
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  Speaker 3: a couple times. Don't say it. You're going to get reprimanded.
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  Speaker 3: Don't say it.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever it may be, the injury to his ankle, you
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  Speaker 3: can't help but subconsciously protect that injury when you're playing ball. Like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: we go back to this all the time. when you're
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  Speaker 3: playing golf and your back hurts, right? You are subconsciously
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  Speaker 3: protecting that back during the swing or whatever pain you have.
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  Speaker 3: And it may not be the same swing. It may
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  Speaker 3: not be. And you think it is, but it's not.
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  Speaker 3: You're not getting to your left side because your left
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  Speaker 3: knee hurts. It's sore. You did something to it. You're
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  Speaker 3: not getting there. And it may be the case of
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  Speaker 3: Bo Nix right now. He is subconsciously protecting the injury
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  Speaker 3: that he suffered because he knows how important that is. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And perhaps that is what's taking place in front of us.
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  Speaker 3: I've been wondering that forever.
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  Speaker 4: I watched a play last night with Brock Party, third
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  Speaker 4: and 11. He takes off and runs. He has traffic
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  Speaker 4: at the sticks. He's about to get hit. He dives
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  Speaker 4: headfirst for the first down and gets it. And I
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  Speaker 4: haven't seen Bo Nix do that this year. And I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, is that an injury thing? Is that protecting
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  Speaker 4: myself from my legs getting hit? I don't know what
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  Speaker 4: that is. But outside of sacks, when is Bo Nix
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  Speaker 4: taking contact this year?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he took contact on the last couple
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  Speaker 3: plays of the last game. He took contact. He just
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  Speaker 3: didn't get to the first down. He took contact running
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  Speaker 3: to the right. He did.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I watched him run out of bounds at, like,
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  Speaker 4: the two-yard line instead of diving for the pylon.
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  Speaker 3: But he took contact. He got hit. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Vic... Bo Nix finishing the game with four
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  Speaker 2: rushes for two yards is not Bo Nix.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: That's not who this guy is. Something is clearly off,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's the psychological factor, whether it's a pain factor.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. Something is clearly not.
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  Speaker 2: He's not even remotely the Bo Nix we saw last year, bro.
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  Speaker 2: There's more to that injury, I think.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the fact that he couldn't go full throttle
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  Speaker 3: until late in training camp. Remember that?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Remember that? This was supposed to be just a minor little, hey. Broken,
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  Speaker 3: broken ankle fixer that, that broken ankle lasted six months. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That was a six month ankle.
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  Speaker 1: He has.
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  Speaker 4: And I know we don't want to use like the
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  Speaker 4: ankle thing as an excuse or whatever, but Bo Nix
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  Speaker 4: has 37 rushing yards this year, 37. He had 33
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  Speaker 4: yards in week three last season alone, like in just
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  Speaker 4: week three. He averaged probably 20 to 25 yards a
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  Speaker 4: game on the ground last season. And that's what doesn't
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  Speaker 4: compute with me. It's like the fact that you're saying that,
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  Speaker 4: I think, tells you a lot about where his confidence
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  Speaker 4: is in the ankles.
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  Speaker 3: All right, before we go to break, can I ask
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  Speaker 3: Mosher a stupid question that I've been wondering? Do the
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  Speaker 3: New Jersey Devils, Moshe, in any of their media guides
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  Speaker 3: or history, do they acknowledge the old Colorado Rockies hockey team?
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  Speaker 2: They do not at all.
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  Speaker 3: I was just curious about that.
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  Speaker 2: They left Colorado and became the New Jersey Devils, but
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  Speaker 2: it's very similar to what happened with Arizona and Utah. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: you started a new franchise, but when the Avalanche came in,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't assume the Colorado Rockies moniker. They started their own.
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  Speaker 2: If the league ever goes back to Phoenix, I would
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: assume they would adopt the Coyotes. Right now, the Coyotes
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: are considered a dormant franchise.
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  Speaker 4: Adam Schefter joins us next.
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  Speaker 7: Adam Schefter.
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  Speaker 2: Adam Schefter.
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  Speaker 4: All right, we will eventually head out to the Ramos
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  Speaker 4: Get an update around the NFL and see what's going on,
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  Speaker 4: because there's a lot of things, whether it's what happened
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  Speaker 4: in Philly, with questions surrounding Jalen Hurts, who's now out
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: for the year, with the blood clots, but should he
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: have played, and all the different questions being answered by
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Nick Sirianni. what in the world is going on in
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: the NFC East in general. But I think for a
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: lot of people, when you look around, especially Denver, in
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  Speaker 4: the conversation that surrounds a 4-2 football team being about
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback and offensive play overall, and how to get
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: that fixed and how to get that rectified, people are
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: taking in the national media a ton of shots at
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  Speaker 4: whether it was Ryan Fitzpatrick in the postgame or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: But the fact of the matter is, how much of
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  Speaker 4: that can continue to go this way offensively with the
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  Speaker 4: Broncos still having success? And with that, we'll talk to
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  Speaker 4: Adam Schefter now, who joined us on the Ramos Law Hotline. So, Adam,
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  Speaker 4: first of all, thank you for joining us, as you
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  Speaker 4: do every week. Just a question for you. When the
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  Speaker 4: Broncos won on Thursday night, And in the postgame, it
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: goes to Ryan Fitzpatrick, and he has the quote of
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: that being disrespectful to the quarterback position. It feels like
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: a lot of people are taking shots at Bo Nix
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: right now. What's your read on this situation? The Broncos
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: are winning football games. Obviously, the offense in the pass
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: game isn't great, but how do you evaluate and put
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: those two things side by side?
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: Well, what I would say is, you know, I'm not
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: overly concerned about Bo Nix right now. They're four and two.
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: They're 4-2, right?
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: Let me look at this. They basically lost at KC
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: to start the season. They beat Jacksonville. They beat the Rams.
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: They lost at San Francisco, right?
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: They won at the Chargers. They won against the Seahawks. Like,
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: so they beat the Seahawks, Chargers... Rams and Jaguars.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: It's a good group.
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: Now we're going to act Arizona, Kansas city home at
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: Carolina by Vegas at Pittsburgh, Miami at the Atlas. Like,
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: I mean, they did their job and, and Bo's not
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: playing as well as he should. The offense isn't functioning
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: as well as it should, but I mean, yeah. Okay.
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: Want to get it straightened out, but they're four and two.
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: There's so much in the league that's struggling right now.
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: I'm not as alarmed as everybody else right now. It's
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: a long season, a long season. And there's a lot
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: of dips and rises and ups and downs. Like they're
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: okay to me, to me.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: You speak in they as in plural, the team. And
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: I agree. I think the team is in fine shape, Adam, but,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Might you be a little concerned about the mental welfare
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: of the quarterback who has a contract waiting for him,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: has a lot of scrutiny that he's facing? What about
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: that position, that particular position? How do you think Bo
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: is handling it, and what could he do better to
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: handle it?
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: Well, I'm not there every day to see how he's
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: handling it. We've seen the games, right? And he's not
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: playing as well as he has in the past. But
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: I'm not as alarmed as everybody. That's all I'm saying.
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: I think it's a process. You know, two weeks ago,
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: everybody was all over Drake May. What's wrong with him?
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: He's not the same guy.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: And then two games later, whoa, look at this. That's
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: how quickly it can turn. I keep waiting for it
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: to turn for Bo, and I think it will. And
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: if I'm wrong, then they're not going to go anywhere.
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: But I think he's going to get better. That's what
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: I think.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: It's Adam Schefter. All conversations with Adam are brought to
• 19:24
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• 19:33
  Speaker 4: the league here, I'm curious. The Jalen Hurts story is
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: a little bit odd. Like, he's told that he shouldn't
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: sleep because of these blood clots, but then he does play,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: and then there's questions about the flights. I feel bad
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: that Nick Sirianni is the one that kind of took
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: the harsh questioning from reporters because it's like.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I'm the coach.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I just listen to the medical staff. But what do
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: you think happened in Philly with all of that?
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: Well, first of all, again, I think that there are
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: more questions than there are answers right now. And I
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: think that there's a lot to this. So I can
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: only pass along what I believe I know is true.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: And he had a calf injury. He was cleated in
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: the Rams game. It provoked, that's the term that doctors use,
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: provoked a blood clot in his calf. He went to
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: the hospital the night before the game in London when
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: it was bothering him. They did extensive testing. I don't
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: know how late he was there. I don't know any
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: of that. I know it's unusual for a player to
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: be at the hospital going through tests, you know, an
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: hour outside the city. the night before a game, especially
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: an international game. And they did the test and they
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: determined there was a superficial blood clot. Now, again, I'm
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: not a doctor, but the doctors went over this. And
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: I don't think that they said, let's try to sneak
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: him through here. For whatever reason, they felt like he
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: could play. Whatever they saw, I have no idea. And
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: they felt like he could fly home. Now, those are
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: two of the biggest questions that are out there. Why
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: was he allowed to play? Why was he allowed to fly?
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: I can't answer that.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: Okay. Comes back. Practices Wednesday, according to the team. Goes
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: to the hospital for another ultrasound, what is thought to
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: be routine. And they find a moving blood clot. And
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: that's where it gets tricky, dangerous, and risky. And that's
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: where the alarms go. Now, even then, even then, they
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: were obviously very concerned. But They sent him to see
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: more doctors, more specialists, more experts, gain more information. And
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: I think on Thursday and Friday, as scary as a
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: moving blood clot is, I think that they felt like
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: they were in control of it. Okay. And then Saturday,
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: they found that there were multiple blood clots in his lungs.
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: And that's when they placed him on IR.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Is there another player that's gone through this? Anything similar
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: to this that you can think of?
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: Well, Wemby had blood clots.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah, and he's back and he's playing and
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: he's fine. You're right.
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: There are other players that have had blood clots. There
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: are players who have blood clots who never played again.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: So, by the way, let me do a quick little
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: Google search just to see. I'm just curious. NFL players
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: with blood clots, right? I guarantee... Like, I had this
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: one guy who used to play with the Browns shot
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: me a message over the weekend that his NFL career
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: ended because of it. So, you know, everyone's different, and
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: that's why they were trying to get out in front
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: of it.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: I see Trey Smith had blood clots in both of
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: his lungs during college conditioning when he was at Tennessee
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: that he recovered, and now he's an All-Pro.
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: Christian Barmore of the Patriots missed a significant portion of
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: the season. Chris Olave. Chris Olave. January 26th. Taylor Moten
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: with the Panthers. David Andrews with the Patriots. Sean Rogers
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: with the Giants. So, you know, everyone's different. So, yeah,
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: people have had it. Again, I don't know all the
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: particulars of Jalen Hurts. I know what they said in
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: the statement yesterday. They believe that the prognosis is very good.
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: That is, he's functional now. There are no limitations. He's
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: on the blood thinners. And their words in this anticipate
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: that he'll be able to play again. Which is an
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: interesting word. Anticipate. Not will, but they anticipate that he'll
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: play again.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: What is wrong with the Rams? And where do they
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: go from here?
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: Well, there were a lot of expectations, a lot of
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: pressures from everybody, I mean, there are, you know, people
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: in LA unbeaten, people nationally talking unbeaten. They were a
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: loaded star studded team. They had a great year last year. They,
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: they enhanced the roster, but you know, football teams and
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: seasons are a lot like mutual funds. Past performance does
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: not guarantee future success. And just because they were great
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: last year and seemingly improving the off season doesn't mean
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: that they will be great again this year. Um, So just,
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: it's not working. Like Matthew Stafford's not playing at the
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: same level. They're not getting the turnovers. There've been injuries,
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: mojos off. And that's the thing. And that's where I
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: come back to Bo Nix. Like sometimes these things don't
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: come back, but sometimes it takes a quarter of a
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: season or half a season before a player or a
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: team turns it around. And the Rams have not played
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: great football so far, but like that game Sunday, They
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: should not have lost it. Like, the Cardinals, to their credit,
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: they controlled the ball. They controlled the clock. The Rams
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: defense couldn't get them off the field. That Kobe Parkinson
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: touchdown at the end, they ruled he got into the
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: end zone. If his knee is down, they can run
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: the clock out. They win the game. Then the Cardinals
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: get the phantom pass interference call that allows them to
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: kick the game. Like, there was so much there. Again,
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: to Arizona's credit, they're in the position to win, and
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: they did it. And the Cardinals deserve a lot of credit.
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: But the Rams are close. They're just not. It's the
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: little things that they're off on. And this league, if
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: you're off on the little things, that makes a big difference.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Adam Schefter with us. Adam, I'm sure the analogy with
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: the mutual funds was great. This will be a surprise
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: to nobody. I don't know what those are. Adam Schefter
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: with us, as he is every week.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: They're funds that are mutual, right?
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: You have some.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I have some. It's mutual.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, Adam, because the game last night,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the conversation is like out east
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: in Washington. But to have last week you tie a
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: football game because you make a boneheaded decision at the
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: end to sort of lay down with nine seconds left
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: and no timeouts. To have what looked like Dan Quinn
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: on the sideline after they threw it away on fourth
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: down saying field goal, field goal. He says he knew
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: it was fourth down. The video certainly didn't look like it.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: What's the conversation in Washington today?
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: I'm going to go by what Dan Quinn said. Like
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: he said he knew it. Like I'm not going to
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: say he's lying to us. You know, the quarterback in
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: that spot has to know better.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: Like, if you throw it away, you're done. So you
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: might as well just throw it towards the guy. If
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: it gets picked up, it gets picked up. He didn't
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: do that. He gave nobody a chance. So just like
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: last week when they ran at the clock, the offensive
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: coordinator's calling the plays. Called the wrong thing. Mistake. The
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: head coach could have overruled him. Didn't do it.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Mistake.
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: Quarterback could have did it on the field. Didn't do it. Mistake.
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: Blame for the OC. Blame for the HC. Blame for
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: the QB. Blame everybody. And I kind of feel like
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: this case, Dan's.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Saying he knew.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: Okay, he knew. But the quarterback has to know then.
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: And he didn't.
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: So somebody didn't know.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, so follow up, Adam. The commanders are having a
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: hell of a go at it to start this year
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: with those two weeks in a row, these mistakes. The
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Cowboys do not look good. The Eagles are without their
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: starting quarterback the rest of the year, and the Giants
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: are on their third quarterback of the season already. Who
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: the hell wins that division?
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: Well, right now, Dallas is the favorite, and Dallas has
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: basically the healthiest quarterback, and because Dallas has the healthiest quarterback,
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: I'll pick them. I don't say with any confidence. I
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: don't love that team right now with the way they're playing,
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: but again, to me, they're playing at a level where
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: it's just slightly better than the others, so I go
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: with Dallas, but I don't feel great about it at all.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: How long before moves are made with the Los Angeles Chargers? Clearly,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: they're going through it. And I don't know what moves
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: you make. I don't know if it's personnel. I don't
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: know if it's coaching. But something's got to give here, Adam.
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: I lost you guys here.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Hold on. Hold on.
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: You guys just lost your speed. I don't know what
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: happened there.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Is that you again?
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: Because when I called in, there was problems.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: We call that the Los Angeles Chargers effect.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly right.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: You bring up the Chargers and things go haywire. Exactly right.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Haywire with the Chargers. The question was, what's the first
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: shoe to drop in L.A. with the Chargers? Will it
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: be a coach? Will it be a player? What happens there?
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: They're going to a bye week. I think there are
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: a lot of questions about whether Mike McDaniel will make it.
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: And we didn't hear basically anything out of the building.
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: So I still don't know that there won't be changes now.
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: We're waiting to hear exactly what happens. Nothing yet. I
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: don't think they're just going to be like, oh, status quo.
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: We're going to back next week. But so far, nothing.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: One last thing for you, Adam, and always appreciate the time.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Everybody and their mother thinks now that the. GM of
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: the Colts has been fired, that they're going for a
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: fire sale and trade for Jonathan Taylor and all these things.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Do you think that they're going to go that route
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: or is it just, we're getting rid of the GM,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: but we're still going to try and keep this together?
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: What I would say is they gave up a lot
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: of draft capital to go get sauce gardener at this
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: time last year. And I would think that they're going
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: to try to recoup some of that draft capital. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: don't know who that means, what that means, but I
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: would think that if there are veterans in the last year,
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: of their deals that you're going to lose in free agency,
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: that you're not resigning, and it makes sense to go
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: get draft picks back, then it makes sense. And so
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: to answer that question, I would think that they would
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: be sellers. I don't know who's going to be sold,
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: but I would think that they'd be sellers with the
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: trade deadline three weeks from today.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Are you hearing these rumors that they're trying to court
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Peyton Manning for some capacity in some GM slash future
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: potential owner role? These are rumors that are abound here
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: in Denver. I don't know if they've gotten to you.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I've heard them.
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: I believe that that job is beneath Peyton Manning. Really?
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah. And why is that?
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I'm just curious. I mean, you don't think he wants
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: to get back in the game in some capacity?
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: You think Tom Brady would come back as a GM
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: or you think he'd come back as an owner?
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Well, that's why if it leads to something, if it
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: leads to something like some part of ownership.
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: If Peyton Manning wants to do something with the Colts,
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: he's just going to do it. I don't think he
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: wants to. His family's in Denver. His kids are in there.
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: I don't think he wants to go run a day-to-day
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: organization like the Colts did at GM. As much money
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: as he's made in football, as much money as he's
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: made post-football, as much money as he's made, why is
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: he uprooting his family to go run the day-to-day operations
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: of a football franchise?
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: It looks like he's pretty happy at your guys' place, too.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: It would limit the amount of commercials he has on television, too.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: Well, then he could do local Indianapolis commercials all he wants.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: That's right. Adam Schefter joined us every single week. Adam,
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: appreciate the time, buddy. Thank you.
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: Thank you, guys.
• 31:19
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• 31:31
  Speaker 3: To be specific, the role that I keep hearing for
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Peyton in Indy wouldn't be just GMA run. It would
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: be a, hey, help us fix what's going on, and
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: we'll give you a little love on the ownership side.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Like you get, oh, you're like a consultant to also,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's what Brady's doing kind of, right? Like
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Brady's a part owner, but he is like putting his
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: input on things.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we will pay for your consultation via ownership shares.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: It is, it is like the discussion though is, does
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: he want that kind of responsibility or is his way
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: of staying in football just doing the Manning cast? It's like,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: I get to talk about football every week, you know?
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Different job. You're exactly right. Completely different job.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: So, again, big thanks to Adam Schefter, Dan Issel, who
• 32:17
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• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Hey, Brett, did you see yesterday Mosier sent me the
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: video of him allegedly running the stairs, the rocky steps,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: and he tried to pawn it off as himself?
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: I did not see that.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: That's not what I did at all. You said if
• 33:19
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• 33:21
  Speaker 2: so I did, or he did. And I sent you
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the video that he sent to us.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: It's not the way I interpreted it.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Because you interpreted it all wrong because you have no
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: interpretation skills.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Nuggets basketball is back on Thursday.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Nuggets basketball is back on Thursday.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Don't know why you're doing that voice. Just telling you
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: that David Adelman is going to be on Ph.D.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Today at 1220. That sounds good.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: I can't wait.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: That sounds good.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: I can't wait.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: I'm serious. We were talking about it last night. I
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: can't wait for the Nuggets to get going. I just
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: hate the fact that they're the last team to play.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Listen to the coach today. Yeah, they're the last team
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: to play again. This is ridiculous. Adam Silver, talk to me, bro.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Hey, David Adelman said this the other day about one
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: new acquisition to the roster.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say this again.
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: I don't know what's going to happen during the season,
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: but DeMar DeRozan has been an unbelievable sign. We were
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: so lucky to get him as a person first. Today,
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: he's scripting with a second. The guy's been in the
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: league for four years. And I got him out here
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: 10 minutes before practice scripting with rookies.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: People don't understand. That's not normal.
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: So it's really cool to see him do that. He's
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: been a leader from day one.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: You know what I like about a guy like DeMar DeRozan?
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Humility?
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Well, yes. But this is a guy. I want you
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: to think about this for a second. He was a
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: staple in Toronto for years. He was like the guy.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Him and Kyle Lowry were just kind of like, you know,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: trying to make that work. And it'd make the playoffs.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: They may win a couple of series. They'd come close.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Then like LeBron would knock him out at the last
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: second or something like that.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: He gets traded. Hawaii gets, uh, goes over to Toronto.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: They win a championship immediately. This is, it's just, His
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: 18th year in.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: The league, Vic?
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: 19th?
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Something like that?
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not even sure how many years.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: It's 18 or 19, yeah.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: He's still going pretty strong, man.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: He still plays well. That is a hungry veteran who
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: wants a championship at the end of his career. He
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: wants to get one. And I like a guy like
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: that being infused into this roster. Motivated to win. Hungry
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: for that one thing that he's missed out on that
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: he was this close to multiple times, never quite got there. And,
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: as you pointed out, Moshe, He's still a good player.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: He still averaged, what, 18 a game last year? Get
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: that coming off the bench?
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: And he's probably going to be a guy like Vic. He's, what,
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: a 28 to 30 minute a night guy despite being
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: a six man, right?
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: And he might get a lot of starting opportunities if
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: guys get hurt.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: We'll see where that goes. Julian Strother's injury certainly hurts
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: his development because you expected him to be in the mix,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: in that rotational mix. I can't wait to see Again,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: the first few weeks of the season will determine who
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: ultimately makes the cut. But I'm very eager to find
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: out who's in the mix Thursday night in OKC off
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: the bench. Like, who are your first five off the bench?
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Can't wait to find that out. What have you seen
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: out of Diallo so far? Oh, he's going to be
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: a defensive stopper. He's going to play. Now, how much
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: he plays remains to be seen. He may play in spurts.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: He may play, you know, against certain guards that have
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: given the Nuggets trouble. He may not play in games
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: where they don't deem him necessary. I don't know, but
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: what about Trevin Brazil, the rookie who really played well
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: in preseason? How much do you play him? What do
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: you do with Cam Whitmore? Do you come off the
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: bench with Cam, who's a bully? He uses his body.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Where do you play some of these guys where I
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: did not anticipate having, and I'm not going to call
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: it depth yet because we don't know what they'll do,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: but options, options.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: A texter says, we thought the same thing about Russell Westbrook.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Westbrook worked. I'm tired of people pretending he didn't.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: He worked here. Yeah, I don't understand. What's the issue
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: with Russell as a player? Because when he was here,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: he produced.
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: That signing was a good signing.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: It worked.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: It helped the team. I don't get why people are
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: trying to be like, that was an epic disaster. I'm like,
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: that dude was pretty damn good. I know that there
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: was moments in which he wasn't, but... That's what you
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: get with somebody coming off the bench.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Vic, will we even remotely see Zeke Nagy this season?
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Just stop.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: We're done with the Zeke thing. Will he even hit
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: the floor? We're like seven years in, dude. There's no
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: magic unlocking of this.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: It's over.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: I feel like D & P CDs all over the place.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: That's what I feel like.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Nothing against the guy. I'm just basing this off evidence.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: How long has he been here, Vic? This is like
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: year seven, eight, something like that? If he hasn't played,
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: then why would you think he's going to play? You
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: kind of know, right?
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, last year he played in January a ton.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Remember when they were down all those players?
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when everybody's hurt.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he didn't play much at all after that.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: So I don't know where they go with that. And
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: to have a lot of guys at that position, how
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: much is Deron Holmes going to play?
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: No idea.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Here's another one.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: No idea.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Look, you get past the top seven, you have no
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: idea what this team is. No idea. I love it, Vic.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Diallo looks like a defensive stopper. He's a 29-year-old rookie.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: We have no idea.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Like, no idea.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: Cam Whitmore is off the bargain bin. You name all
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: the other guys that they signed this offseason. You just
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: don't know past the top seven.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: What do you think? Yesterday, Coach Edelman was asked about
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: projecting the season. Where do you want to end up?
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: And he says... He wants to end up a top
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: six seed. And a top six seed in the West
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: can win you a title. And a lot of people
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: took that as a, oh, wow, his expectations aren't very high.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Why isn't he not saying number one? And I look
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: at that differently, I guess. The way the NBA is today,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: if you get in without having to play the play,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: and if you get in, you can win an NBA title.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: The Knicks did that by just getting in. Nobody expected
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: the Knicks to run the show the way they did
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: last year. Nobody did. Nobody in April, when the Knicks
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: got in, did they expect them to do what they
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: did and I think that is the interpretation of his
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: comment it wasn't oh god we're just only we're only
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: a 60 I don't think that's what he was trying
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: to say what he's trying to say is if you're
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: a top six seed in the West you could win
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: it all that if.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: You get in as a top six seed and healthy
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: if you're the Nuggets you That's the key. You definitely can.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: That's the key. So I'll ask all Nuggets fans, would
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: you rather get into the playoffs as a two seed
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: but have a starter down or as a six seed
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: but be healthy? I think I have this.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Six seed and be healthy.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think I have this right, don't I?
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: I think only two teams that were past the three
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: seed of one titles in the history of the league.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Wait, come again?
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Only two teams that were Less than the three seed?
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Or less than whatever, however you want to characterize it.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: A four seed or higher.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: What were the Knicks? The Nuggets team can go all
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: the way. What were the Knicks last year?
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: They were three.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: They were three seed in the East?
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Okay.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Did anybody expect the Knicks to win the title last year?
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: No.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: But it's just, I don't know. Saying a six is like, yeah,
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: I get the sentiment. Like, get there, get healthy, that
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: sort of thing. History says you got to be like
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: a top three seed to have a real shot at it.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: So the examples I got, the 1969 Celtics were number four.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's not even go back that far.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: The 1995 Houston Rockets were a six.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't work.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: So, according to your number crunching, you've got to be
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: a top three seed to win an NBA title.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Feels like it. I think that just proves you're consistent.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: But.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: With the game that's happening tonight, let's do this.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: Do whatever it takes to win.
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  Speaker 2: I would expect the Avs to be way, way better tonight,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: to be honest with you. Last night's performance was just
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: not good. We all know that. And something about the
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: New Jersey Devils, fellas, that I need to talk to
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: you about is that they give up plenty.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Of goals per game.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: And they're a more loosey-goosey team than the kind of
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: game we saw out of Philly last night. Also, not
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: only that, but their penalty kill is terrible. They're currently
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: 26th in the National Hockey League. I know it's early,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: but it's not been good. It's under 70% to start
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: the year. So when you get power play chances, you
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: must convert. You must attack Jake Allen, who is... Sitting
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: with an 876 save percentage and giving up over three
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: goals per game, you must attack, attack, attack. There will
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: be more ice, but you must inflict your will. You
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: cannot do what you did last night.
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• 42:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know why I can't get that through my
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: head when talking about seating. I always think a 7
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: is a higher seat than a 4.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: The lower seed.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: You know why?
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: Numerically higher.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: You know why? It's because you're stupid. Because you're stupid.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Did you know that the NBA season tips off at
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: 1 p.m. Mountain Time today?
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: Where at?
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Celtics at the Pistons. Not in Detroit. Where is that game?
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: It is in Detroit.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Why are they playing at 1? At 3 o'clock Detroit time.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Because I love it. What do you mean? This is great.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: I'm just curious. Is it just an opening day thing or?
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: I think NBC wanted a triple header to open up
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: the year.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Because they have all three games today.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: So a bunch of games today, a bunch of games tomorrow.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Can the Nuggets play or what? Are they going to
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: let them play? At some point you have to wait
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: until the last game Thursday.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Can I play?
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: I'd like to play.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: See, this is what I say about Monday Night Football.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: It's cool to play on Monday Night Football.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: I hate the waiting. I hate the waiting. Hey, let
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: me play.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: How many times have the Broncos opened up this season
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: on Monday night? You're like, dude, come on.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Come on, dude. Come on.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: I watch Wednesday.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: I watch Thursday. I watch Saturday.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: I watch Sunday. Let's go.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Turn me on.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Exactly right. Exactly right. All right. Fact checker, please, Nelly.
• 44:08
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• 44:22
  Speaker 9: Our boss always emphasizes the importance of tossing to break, right?
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: You give a topic that we're going to talk about
• 44:28
  Speaker 9: on the other side, and then we'll do that. Gives
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: people a reason to stick around. Well, let's go over
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: a couple tosses to break you guys have had in
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: yesterday's show and today's show. Here's one from earlier today.
• 44:39
  Speaker 9: I believe this was the first commercial break of the day.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Ten bucks usually doesn't get you much anymore, but on Tuesdays,
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: any large pizza from Papa Murphy's. It's a $ 10 Tuesday.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Order at PapaMurphy's.com. Pick it up and make it fresh
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: at home back after this.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I got my $ 10 pizza last week, and I wish
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I had one now.
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: Why?
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Because I'm in New Jersey, man. I wish I had
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: a $ 10 Papa.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Murphy's right now. But we were going to break.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Just shut up. Yeah, but it's good.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but just say that to yourself.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, I can't because I want people to
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: know it's a great deal.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: You can tell that somebody's like playing music and they're
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: about to get like the drummer's about to hit the
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: last thing. And then you just kept singing.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Just shut up.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: Let's do another one.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, here's another one.
• 45:21
  Speaker 9: This is from yesterday. And one of our texters pointed
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: out that it looks like Vic is broadcasting live from
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: a gentrified bathroom. And so they said, hey, maybe we
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: can get Vic a nice Zoom background before the next segment.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: It looks like the room is slanted.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: What about that?
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: No. What about.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, what if I go to video effects? Let's get
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: to Oh, By The Way.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Just go play with yourself.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Again!
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Again! Keep it to yourself!
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Some things are better left unsaid.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Why? Why?
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: You have such a weird way of saying things, Moe.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Let's get to Oh, By The Way.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Just go play with yourself.
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: What?
• 46:04
  Speaker 9: And I love that you could just hear Vic right
• 46:06
  Speaker 9: before we went to break there.
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: What? What?
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: What?
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: iTunes, Spotify, Moj, Lombardi, and Cain's where you can find
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: the podcast. Again, 5 o'clock tonight, Avs and Devils right
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: here on 92.5 and in two days. Ooh, listen to this,
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: by the way. How's this for a tease? You guys
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: want a tease?
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Tease me.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: Thursday is your final chance to win Nuggets home opener tickets.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: So we're giving away lower level seats all day, plus
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: one pair that's better than any ticket we've ever given away.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: That's on the Nuggets ticket Thursday. That's in a couple
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: of days.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: You get to play? What is that?
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: It's a one-day contract to play in the Nuggets home opener.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: But listen Thursday to win. And if you're looking for
• 46:55
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• 46:58
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• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: So, Avs and Devils tonight at 5 o'clock. You can
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: hear that right here, Altitude Sports Radio 92.5.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, Moshe? I'm going to get into the house probably
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: about 3, 3.30 in the morning. It's going.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: To be a great show.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: If I take tomorrow off, dude.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm on tomorrow, it's going to be an
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: absolute miracle.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Moj, CJ writes in on the text line, Moj always
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: has to get the last word. Let's see if that
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: applies right now.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Let's just see.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: All right, you guys have a great day. We'll talk
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: to you all tomorrow.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Love you.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: See you.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Why do you think I always have to have the
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: last word? I don't think I have to have the
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: last word.