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The Bizarre Life of Elvis, Part Two: Public Fame, Private Chaos · Ridiculous History

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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous Histories, a production of iHeartRadio. Fellow Ridiculous Historians, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: as always so much for tuning in. This is part
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  Speaker 1: two of a two part series on the bizarre saga
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  Speaker 1: of Elvis Presley. So with a shout out to our
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  Speaker 1: super producer, mister Max Williams, you gotta listen to part one, folks.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you must. And now that you're done with that,
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  Speaker 2: why don't you just dive on in headlong in media
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  Speaker 2: arrests or in media three in two Part two.
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  Speaker 1: Did Elvis Presley h pay his entourage because it seems
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  Speaker 1: like it was it was similar to what we would
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  Speaker 1: later see with the entourages of say Little Wade or
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  Speaker 1: most famously mc hammer.
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  Speaker 2: Whether they drew a salary or not, he supported their existence.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the question, Like did he pay them a
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  Speaker 1: salary or were they just hangers on?
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  Speaker 3: They would on the payroll as it were, right, He
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  Speaker 3: had a lot of cousins and step brothers and things
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  Speaker 3: like extended family who absolutely were on some form of payroll.
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  Speaker 3: I think there were other and and then other close
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  Speaker 3: friends and stuff too. I think there were definitely people
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  Speaker 3: that were more on the fringe that were just kind
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  Speaker 3: of there for handouts and and got hangers on you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what what's up with the Hamburger guy? Was
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  Speaker 1: he part of Memphis Mafia?
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  Speaker 2: He was basically like the Snoop Dogg blunt Roller equivalent
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  Speaker 2: or day or he was just there providing hamburger.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was uh Lil Wade. I met some
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  Speaker 1: of his entourage and he had a guy called Snacks
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  Speaker 1: and his job was just to get snacks for Wayne.
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  Speaker 2: And was this cat grilling them up to order? Was
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  Speaker 2: he just going out and fetching hamburgers? Was other food involved?
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  Speaker 1: See hamburger cook or hamburger fetch.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's my it's my understanding that it was. He
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  Speaker 3: was responsible for the production.
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  Speaker 4: Of the delivery s VP of Hamburgers. Okay, so this
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  Speaker 4: man I actually don't know his real name. He was
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  Speaker 4: only referred to as Hamburger James, and I have not
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  Speaker 4: seen I have not seen his real name, which is
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  Speaker 4: perhaps makes sense when you learn the second half of
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  Speaker 4: this story. H Hamburger James's relationship with Elvis unraveled when
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  Speaker 4: Elvis became convinced that Hamburger James had stolen both money
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  Speaker 4: and private photos. Shall we say of his wife, Priscilla. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And when Elvis learned of this, Elvis he had a temper.
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  Speaker 3: He he learned of this when Hamburger James was about
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  Speaker 3: to leave Memphis on a public airplane. And so Elvis,
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  Speaker 3: you know, jetted to the Memphis airport. Somehow convinced the
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  Speaker 3: airline to hold.
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  Speaker 1: Up the flight. He boarded the flight and walk for anybody, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean yeah, no, and he somehow he finds this guy
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  Speaker 3: on the plane. And this is an interview that Elvis's
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  Speaker 3: stepbrother Rick Stanley, gave the People magazine in nineteen eighty nine.
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  Speaker 3: I want to read this part because it's so it
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  Speaker 3: really paints a picture. Okay, Elvis reaches over while Hamburger
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  Speaker 3: James is looking straight at him, scared to death, and
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  Speaker 3: slaps him twice like in the movies, a slap and
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  Speaker 3: then a backhand pow and then pow again. Then the
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  Speaker 3: most amazing thing happened. Hamburger James got a funny look
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  Speaker 3: on his face and wilted like a baby. He cried
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  Speaker 3: and cried like his heart was broken. He said he
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  Speaker 3: was sorry he stole, and he would give it all back.
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  Speaker 3: And he knew that he had done something that he
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  Speaker 3: couldn't ever be forgiven for.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Lesson learned a bit of a parable. Did he
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  Speaker 1: continue to supply Hamburger's I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't think so. I mean, that's the thing. It's definitely
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  Speaker 3: was like a you know, in the court of the
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  Speaker 3: king kind of deal where people's favor rose and fill depends.
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  Speaker 2: But Elvis wasn't a vindictive guy right like he would.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe i'm you know, oversimplifying, But did he
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  Speaker 2: give Hamburger James another chance or did he cut him loose?
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  Speaker 3: You know that. I don't know. I don't think he did.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's kind of one of those Crossby wants things,
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  Speaker 1: as you said, an absolute monarchy. And he doesn't seem
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  Speaker 1: vindictive necessarily. I don't want to sound like a jerk
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  Speaker 1: with this. He sounds reactive and perhaps impulsive, but he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't sound as though he has these spider like machinations
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  Speaker 1: that take generations or years to come to fruition.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we certainly know that at the end of his
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  Speaker 2: life his impulse control problems became quite apparent.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And and She's Burgers also would play a role in
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  Speaker 2: his demise. Sadly, I'm notlaughing. It's really quite tragic, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And he was one of those people that was just
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  Speaker 2: so surrounded by yes people and people that were taking
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  Speaker 2: advantage of him. And at the end of his life
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  Speaker 2: he literally was like held hostage by the colonel and
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  Speaker 2: forced to be trotted out on stage like a dancing,
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  Speaker 2: you know, circus animal. And he was not well and
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  Speaker 2: people were not looking after him in that respect, and
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  Speaker 2: he certainly wasn't looking after himself.
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  Speaker 1: They were definitely letting him eat some egregious things. That's
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  Speaker 1: something that you know, we have to mention while we're
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  Speaker 1: on airplanes and food, right gold low airplanes. Yes, the
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  Speaker 1: fool's gold loaf, eight thousand calories per sandwich. All right,
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  Speaker 1: describe it, GEORGI, you have to please.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, it's actually I believe I have. I want to.
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  Speaker 3: I'll describe it, but I also need to describe it.
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  Speaker 2: Is this a regional delicacy? Why do you have to
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  Speaker 2: fly to Denver.
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  Speaker 1: Colorado by the Colorado Mine Company? Yes?
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  Speaker 3: So, okay, you take a loaf of French white bread
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  Speaker 3: and you bake it until golden brown.
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  Speaker 2: Like a baguette.
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  Speaker 1: So you're talking about why a little.
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  Speaker 3: Fluffier, a little fluffier and you hollow it out. You
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  Speaker 3: take an entire jar of creamy peanut butter, an entire
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  Speaker 3: jar of grape jam jelly, and then a pound of
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  Speaker 3: fried bacon which is fried until crispy, and layer that
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  Speaker 3: on top, put the top part of the bread on it,
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  Speaker 3: and then they go. He'd bj and bacon in a
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  Speaker 3: hollowed out loaf.
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  Speaker 2: Would you slice it to order?
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  Speaker 1: Or would.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a sub or like it's like you go
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  Speaker 3: for the foot, Maybe you cut it in half, but
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  Speaker 3: from what I've seen, it's like about a foot long.
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  Speaker 1: And so he would he beat. Elvis would fly with
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  Speaker 1: his entourage and maybe for a time with his hamburger
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  Speaker 1: guy James out to Denver.
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  Speaker 3: To sorry, man, I only do hamburgers, and my expertise
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  Speaker 3: did slap it backslap.
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  Speaker 1: One?
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  Speaker 3: I think they were. Elvis famously didn't sleep like he
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  Speaker 3: would just be up all night like he was kind
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  Speaker 3: of a nocturnal guy.
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  Speaker 2: He was also one of those classic rock star stories
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  Speaker 2: of like a pill to get up, a pill to
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  Speaker 2: the mellow out, uppill to you know whatever, go to sleep.
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  Speaker 2: You know. He was constantly on a cocktail of uppers, downers, booze,
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  Speaker 2: and sandwiches.
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  Speaker 3: So he existed in this real twilight time of day.
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  Speaker 3: So he in his entourage were hanging out at some
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  Speaker 3: on godly hour, and he got a hanker and for
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  Speaker 3: this fool's gold loaf, which as you said, was really
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  Speaker 3: only obtainable, or at least the proper the official one
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  Speaker 3: was only obtainable, and the Denver Mining Co Establishment in Denver.
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  Speaker 3: And so they trek down the road to the little
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  Speaker 3: airstrip where his private airplane was and they flew I believe,
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  Speaker 3: I forget how many. I think it was like fifteen
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  Speaker 3: of them or something out to Denver right on the spot,
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  Speaker 3: went to the airplane hangar, thirty sandwiches were delivered, and
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  Speaker 3: then they just crushed them with champagne and then flew
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  Speaker 3: back to back to Emphis. And I crunched the numbers
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  Speaker 3: on this. I believe those thirty sandwiches had a quarter
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  Speaker 3: million calories in them.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, and they were they were what like fifty bucks
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  Speaker 1: at pop back then.
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  Speaker 3: I know, well, in fact, you're in the cost of transport.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, also the gas and the plane and
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  Speaker 1: the pilot. And I get to ask this some more
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  Speaker 1: abstract question for us, but do you think that Elvis
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  Speaker 1: Presley was happy during this time. I know, it's a
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  Speaker 1: tough one to call.
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  Speaker 3: I I mean there's two answers to that. He this
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  Speaker 3: is gonna come out wrong, and I mean this in
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  Speaker 3: the nicest way. He he enjoyed simple things and it
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  Speaker 3: made him really happy. I mean he loved and he
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  Speaker 3: was like he was a goofball. He loved like Monty Python,
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  Speaker 3: he loved like Peter Sellers and the Pink Panther movies
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  Speaker 3: and Slapstick like same. Well, yeah, exactly, like he kind
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  Speaker 3: of like there was there's some things are awesome, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like you like go karts and stuff, and he would
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  Speaker 3: rent out like amusements, big.
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  Speaker 1: Kid, right right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was almost at a state of arrested development.
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  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, And he got to wonder if any
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  Speaker 2: of that had to do with the loss of his
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  Speaker 2: twin brother and the fact that his mother was such
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  Speaker 2: a struggled with that loss throughout his childhood, and he
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  Speaker 2: probably wanted to relive that childhood and have a brother
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  Speaker 2: and have be surrounded by you know, brother like friends
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  Speaker 2: kind of.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, there's a lot of parallels between I
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  Speaker 3: was gonna say, yeah with Michael Jackson, Yeah, which is
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  Speaker 3: so weird that his Elvis's daughter, Lisa Marie married Michael Jackson,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, and everybody was like, what, that's a
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  Speaker 3: strange pairing, But in a way, it almost makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: He would she would be familiar with perhaps certain personality traits.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, But I.
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  Speaker 3: I think that his world was very He was not
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  Speaker 3: in control, and I think he knew that, and so
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  Speaker 3: he made his world when he wasn't forced to be
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  Speaker 3: on stage very small. He really for the most of
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  Speaker 3: the day life hours and most of the evening hours too,
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  Speaker 3: he stayed in his the upstairs. The ground floor at
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  Speaker 3: Graceland was like the communal party zone. There was the
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  Speaker 3: media room, the pool room, there was you know, places
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  Speaker 3: wherebody could hang out. But upstairs was famously extremely off limits,
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  Speaker 3: and that.
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  Speaker 2: Was it was only for the family.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They mentioned that in the episode of Paradise that I
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  Speaker 2: was right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like to this day, there's no photos
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  Speaker 3: that have been taken up there since after he died,
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  Speaker 3: and the ones that the few photos that do exist
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  Speaker 3: up there are just like, you know, maybe half a
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  Speaker 3: dozen of them. It was extremely private, and he had
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  Speaker 3: his private quarters up there, and he mostly stayed up
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  Speaker 3: there and watched movies in bed and hung out. He
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  Speaker 3: had an office up there too, And but yeah, him
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  Speaker 3: and Lisa Marie, or not Lisa Marie, he and his
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  Speaker 3: wife Priscilla, and then later when when they left, he
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  Speaker 3: had a few girlfriends, Linda Thompson and a few others.
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  Speaker 3: They recall him mostly kind of keeping to himself up there,
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  Speaker 3: I think because it was the only place he probably
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  Speaker 3: felt in control. I think in there he was probably
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  Speaker 3: happy because I don't think it took much to make
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  Speaker 3: him happy. But I think feeling the responsibility he mentioned,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the Memphis Mafia and all the people on
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  Speaker 3: the payroll, he was very aware that he had a
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  Speaker 3: small business to support just by being himself, and if
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  Speaker 3: he didn't get out there and do it and hit
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  Speaker 3: his marks, it would all stop. And it wasn't just
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  Speaker 3: people depending on him, it was family depending on him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point. Also, one other point you
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  Speaker 1: hit there, Jordan, that might be familiar to a lot
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  Speaker 1: of folks in the audience is when you're at that
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  Speaker 1: level of the public, public imagery, or being a public figure,
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  Speaker 1: one of the most precious and finite resources you will
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  Speaker 1: ever have is solitude. Is just being alone so I
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  Speaker 1: could totally see him, you know, I could see him
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  Speaker 1: kicking it in front of the TV with a banana,
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  Speaker 1: peanut butter or sandwich and watch and seeing the phone ring,
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  Speaker 1: and then just turning up the television just for like
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  Speaker 1: a night, right, just to get away. There's something scary
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  Speaker 1: about that, because again I think the Michael Jackson Elvis
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  Speaker 1: Presley comparison is spot on. I was not aware until
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  Speaker 1: we started looking at some of your research together that
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  Speaker 1: just like Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley bonded with another primate.
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  Speaker 1: Could you tell us a little bit about what's this
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  Speaker 1: guy's name? Scattered? Scattered? Scatter? Okay, this is a true story.
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  Speaker 3: This is a true story, and a pet champanzee named
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  Speaker 3: Scatter who reportedly drank alcohol, destroyed hotel rooms, bit unsuspecting people.
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  Speaker 1: So that's our Keith Moon, Yeah right, yes.
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  Speaker 3: And he also had a habit of yanking down women's skirts,
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  Speaker 3: which with sure Elvis was was charmed by.
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  Speaker 1: H fit right in.
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  Speaker 3: But Elvis is you know, the Memphis Mafia, and Scatter
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  Speaker 3: he would he would announce himself with an ear splitting
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  Speaker 3: woo whenever he walked into rooms, and he would just
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  Speaker 3: terrorize visitors with these unpredictable, violent outbursts. And probably the
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  Speaker 3: most famous incident was Scattered was when he escaped and
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  Speaker 3: found his way into he was. I guess it was
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  Speaker 3: in Elvis's movie period in the sixties when he was
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  Speaker 3: making a lot of movies in Hollywood, and he wandered
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  Speaker 3: into the office of legendary film producer Samuel Goldwyn at
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  Speaker 3: MGM and.
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  Speaker 1: Just tore the office apart.
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  Speaker 3: That's like wandering into like Steven Spielberg's office like that insane,
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  Speaker 3: like of all the rooms to and I guess security
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  Speaker 3: interviewed and escorted him out. But yeah, Elvis, he treated
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  Speaker 3: him less like a pet and more like a mischievous roommate.
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  Speaker 1: He referred to him here, I don't know, I love
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  Speaker 1: this so much.
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  Speaker 3: He referred to him as a quote coconut headed little
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  Speaker 3: motherfucker since which is beautiful. And but nobody else at
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  Speaker 3: the house. Both the entourage and the staff of Graceland
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  Speaker 3: appreciated Scatters antics uh. Everybody else hated him, yes, and
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  Speaker 3: they eventually they banished him to the outside. Elvis had
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  Speaker 3: to build a special little climate controlled building where Scatter
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  Speaker 3: was kept. And Elvis he loved hanging out with him.
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  Speaker 3: He liked to dress Elvis. He Elvis liked to dress
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  Speaker 3: the chimp in human style outfits, and then he like
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  Speaker 3: he had you, would do this prank where he would
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  Speaker 3: stop at traffic lights and duck and make it appear
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  Speaker 3: that Scattered the monkey was driving this car by himself,
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  Speaker 3: and he just thought it was. He was endlessly entertained
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  Speaker 3: by this.
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  Speaker 2: But make me think of that that Monkey Trucker movie.
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  Speaker 2: Every which way at least with that. Yeah, yeah, there's
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  Speaker 2: a golden time for pet primates and weird Michael Jackson,
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  Speaker 2: also primate owner.
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  Speaker 3: You're right, though, this staff really did not like Scatter,
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  Speaker 3: and Scatter's life ended under mysterious circumstances. According to multiple
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  Speaker 3: stories from Elvis insiders, there's a belief that the chimp
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  Speaker 3: was poisoned after biting a Graceland made.
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  Speaker 1: Oh another conspiracy.
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  Speaker 3: Elvis's cousin Billy Smith, later said, we always thought she
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  Speaker 3: poisoned him, and it wouldn't surprise me because not long
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  Speaker 3: after that, after this attack, the monkey came up dead.
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  Speaker 1: And we've got oh man, we've got to also talk
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  Speaker 1: about the high drama that Elvis, Elvis almost got involved
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  Speaker 1: with the man himself is now known as being a
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  Speaker 1: phenomenal pop icon. But Jordan, as you were telling us
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  Speaker 1: earlier off air, Elvis Presley almost became a star of
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  Speaker 1: musicals as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Film projects got filtered through the Colonel, and the Colonel,
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  Speaker 3: as we said earlier, had questionable taste. And they initially
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  Speaker 3: went to Elvis to play the role of Tony in
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  Speaker 3: West Side Story, and they ended up turning it down.
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  Speaker 3: And then years later Barbara streisand really really wanted him
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  Speaker 3: to be the lead in her version of A Star.
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  Speaker 1: Is Born Barbara streisand yeah, of Yentl.
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  Speaker 3: The one and only, And yeah, once again, I think
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  Speaker 3: he was just sort of talked out of doing it.
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  Speaker 1: By the Colonel, who was a baby Wow. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: we know that he could have been in more better movies.
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  Speaker 3: He was in thirty one movies. And they're all bad.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, wait, wait, wait, what's the worst one in your opinion?
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  Speaker 1: In your opinion and we will quote this later.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I haven't seen them all because I'm not
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  Speaker 3: that much of a masochist. I mean this one called
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  Speaker 3: Kissing Cousins, which is pretty bad.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, thirty one and they're seriously, they're all clunkers.
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  Speaker 3: Some of the early one's like King Creole's okay, Blue
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  Speaker 3: Hawaii's okay. There's one where he's a race car driver,
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  Speaker 3: which like kind of sucks. Let's see one called clam Bake,
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  Speaker 3: which is really I mean just the names alone. Let's
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  Speaker 3: sell the one where Elvis he there's one called I
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  Speaker 3: think it's called Stay Away Joe where he plays a
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  Speaker 3: Navajo man in brown face. That's pretty bad.
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  Speaker 1: Oh dear, that's great. That's not great, Elvis. We also
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  Speaker 1: we can dispel one common myth about Elvis while we're
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  Speaker 1: while we're looking into this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Similar to characters like Abraham Lincoln, Elvis has often been
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  Speaker 1: alleged to be a malungeon. Uh. And that's just something
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  Speaker 1: that's a trib racial isolate out at Tennessee, and it's
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  Speaker 1: something that pops up inevitably when people talk about his genealogy.
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  Speaker 1: But as we know, there's not really any proof of that, right, Jordan,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not that I'm aware of. Oh okay, okay, just
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  Speaker 1: dispelling that one while we're while we're on the way.
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  Speaker 1: We've got to get talked about the cars eventually, but
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  Speaker 1: before we do eddy of that, we should emphasize that
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  Speaker 1: Elvis also saw himself as a fan of law and order.
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  Speaker 1: Despite his chaotic shenanigans, he really wanted to work for
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  Speaker 1: the feds, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He he had like an almost childlike interest in like
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: law enforcement, and because he liked the badges. Like like
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: when I was a kid, I wanted to join boy Scouts,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: not because I gave a shit about like camping, but
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: because I like the uniform. That's basically Elvis's whole take
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: on cops. Like he loved cops. Wherever he went. He
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: would like, you know, the security guards and stuff. He
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: would talk to them. He would give you know, all
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: the cops in Memphis, like huge bonuses every year, and
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: he made a habit of like collecting just badges from
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: different police precincts whenever he was on tour and this
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: this hobby eats.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: He was a really blue Lives Matter kind of kid.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it came from definitely like a like, oh
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: they were the good guys, like kind of right, that's
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: what I'm melistic.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a law enforcement yea.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm only bringing that up as a as
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: a more you know, modern touch point for that kind
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: of thing. But he certainly wasn't about a pression or
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: any kind of negative aspects of law enforcement. He just
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: he just thought the policemen were like like eternal.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Career day kid getting excited when the fire truck comes
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: to the school, yes, right, clapping his hands.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And so this this kind of escalated to you know,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: it's a logical conclusion. By in nineteen seventy when he
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: met then President Richard Nixon in the Oval Office and H. L.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Nixon gave him a sort of semi fictitious narcotics badge.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, I remember that that was
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: sort of a bit of a pr stunt.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, but it is the most requested image in the
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: National Archives. Did you know that of Elvis and Nixon
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: shaking hands. It is one of the most sere I mean,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: I understandably, so it's one of the most surreal images
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I've ever seen. And Elvis took the opportunity, which always
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: made me really sad as a Beatles fan, to he
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: talks to Nixon about, you know, you got to do
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: something about those Beatles. They're bad for the American youth.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: They're taking drugs and which well when when those because
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: you know, Nixon quite famously had everything in the Oval
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: office taped, and when those tapes came out and the
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Beatles heard it, they were really hurt because they were
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: huge Elvis fans. But uh, yeah, there was a movie
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: made a couple of years ago with Michael Shannon as
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Elvis and I forget who played Nixon. But about this
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: truly bizarre meeting at the White.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: House, right, Yeah, it's like a mockumentary style. Yeah, correct, Yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of us have been fascinated by
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: the Elvis meets Nixon's story. Like you said, I did
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: not know it was the most requested image in the archives,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: but it seems like it's his I Love your Boy
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Scout comparison, because it seems like it's the ultimate merit
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: badge for him. He wanted to be the he wanted
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: to be in the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: but he didn't really seem to understand what that meant.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah or maybe yeah, maybe he just thought that he
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: could get free drugs from doing that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I yeah, it was truly a.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: That is kind of funny. How hot for law enforcement.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: He was considering what an illicit drug user he was.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm looking at this great Smithsonian article from
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: a while back by the journalist Peter Carlson, who who
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: outlines sort of the the way the meeting came together
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: and the idea that Priscilla Presley in her memoir Elvis
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: and Me says, Elvis thought that if he got this
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: titular badge, he could legally enter any country with guns
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and carrying any drugs he wished.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that immunity.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I did not know that was part of the rational
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: abstracted you know what I mean.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: That's hilarious. That makes a lot of sense. Honest, I
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: would have thought that his naivety would have stood in
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the way making that kind of connection.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: So that's it's bizarre. But it is also, I think
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: telling that the president of the United States at that
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: point in history, the most dangerous guy on the planet,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: was was like, oh, well, I don't work for the
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: good of marriage. What what do we got? What we
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: what do we got? And we could give this one.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we still have musicians who were
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: at that level of impact right or of influence, but.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Well, we certainly have heard stories of even like Snoop
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Dogg getting in trouble for having weed in the netherwise,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, like definitely, yeah, I couldn't. I
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: couldn't name one. I mean, he's about as big of
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: a star as they come.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Snoo I didn't have the badge.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: He didn't have the badge, that's true. I would love
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: to pivot really quickly to a piece of news that
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: came out recently that we actually talked about on our
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: sister show Stuff They Don't Want you to Know. Elvis
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: in the seventies had this dude named Jay Orberg customize
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: a Cadillac for him to make it look like a
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: giant rolling guitar and the most non functional, kind of
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: absurd sort of custom job you could imagine, and that
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: has recently made its way back to the States in
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Desertland Park, Orlando. It's going to under that unveil the
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: car recently for public consumption or for public viewing before
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: undertaking a massive restoration project that guests are going to
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: be able to actually watch unfold inside of the Orlando
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Auto Museum. Do you know about this? This bizarre vehicle
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: looks more like a parade float than a car you drive.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: I didn't until just this moment and I just googled
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: it and it's forty one feet walls its.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: World is this? This is crazy?
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: I know, how how would you drive this?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Because guess the thing? Yeah, it's it's it's literally something
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I think he would drive around Graceland like as a like,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: look at me kind of situation. But I don't know
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: that it was particularly practical to take, you know, to
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: take on road trips. But it is valued currently, even
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: in its current state, at more than two hundred million
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: dollars in this company. Yeah, this museum. I think it's
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the most valuable piece in their collection that includes cars
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: from like James Bond films and Batman and like you
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: know film franchises like The Fast and the Furious.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: That's wild. I mean, if for no other reason that
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know it as being a particularly special part
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: of Elvis lore. I mean because he's you know, the
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: whole pink Cadillac thing is.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: A big part of his shooting cars.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Shooting cars. Yeah, there's a story where he was having
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: a fight with his girlfriend at the time, Linda Thompson,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: and he wanted to get in his car and dramatically
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: like peel out but it's stalled out in the out
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: of her and he was so mad that he just
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: shot the car.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: That reminds me of Mitch Hedberg's joke where he got
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: mad at his girlfriend while they were camping. He was
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: in a tent and he was trying to figure out
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: how to zip it up angrily, you know what I mean.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: So eventually, Okay, So Elvis, who was always strapped apparently
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: like Danny DeVito and always Sonny, he made to shoot
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: his car. He never he never got arrested for any
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: firearm related offenses that I don't believe.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I know Elvis in cars, he had a special relationship
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: with cars he bought. I believe in the Graceland records
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: they indicate that he purchased over two hundred of them
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: in his lifetime, and he gave most of them away
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: because I think for him it was the ultimate status symbol.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: And there was a story it's really kind of sad,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: like he was a truck driver in Tupelo, Mississippi, and
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: he'd pass all these shiny cars when he was driving
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: these big rigs, and he would, you know, dream about getting,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: you know, a nice car. And when he first got
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: a little bit of money when he was on Sun
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Records prior to going to RCA. When he was first
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: starting out, one of the first big purchase he made
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: was his car, and it was was secondhand, but he
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: really loved it, and he parked it outside of the
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: hotel he was in when he was on tour and
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: he just stared at it all night. He loved this thing.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: And then the next caught fire and burned up on
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: the road.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Oh that's terrible.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: And he later said, I got a lot of cars,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: when none will ever take the place of that first one.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Which of the one car you can't get despite the
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: amount of money you have.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, And as we're wrapping up, I'd love
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: to kind of maybe go back to his roots and
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: then trace back to his end, the end of his life.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: You know, he he did grow up in poverty, He
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: did grow up around all these incredible black musicians that
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: he was influenced by. He got his first guitar as
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: a gift when he was very very young, and he
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: didn't pass away with a particularly high net worth, which
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: is interesting considering all of the stuff that you're talking about,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: all the spending behavior, which is also very similar to
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson's story. He was a voracious spender and he
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: died passed away in nineteen seventy seven with a net
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: worth only around five million dollars. And that was because
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: the eight was considered mega mega cash poor. It was
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: falling apart. He made all these really bad deals, specifically
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: and unfavorable fifty percent commission deal with the Colonel who
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: we've been talking about all this time, really really nuts normal, Yeah, yeah,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: fifty percent, that's unheard of. With inflation adjustment, that would
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: put him in around twenty to twenty seven million in
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: today's standards. But this guy is like legendary, I mean,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: probably one of the most famous musicians to ever live.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: That's just seems absurd, unheard of to have to pass
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: away with that little And apparently a lot of it
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: too had to do with the fact that the estate
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: was crumbling physically and they were paying incredibly high taxes,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: over seventy percent of the value going towards all these
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: taxes and fees. However, Priscilla did turn it around and
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: turn it into Graceland that we know and you know,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: quite a popular attraction, and that was that a necessity.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, they were going to lose that necessity.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: It was their family home and they're still at certain
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: times a year, I think around Christmas, and they take
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: the plexiglass down, they take the vevelt ropes down, and
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: it becomes a family home again. And that's like and
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: the one spot and this has always fascinated me. The
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: downstairs museum, you know great tours, That was the public
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: part of the house where when Elvis was alive, that
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: was where people would hang out. The upstairs is.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Like a bank vault.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: No one like.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: It's truly like a really wonka like nobody ever goes in,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: nobody ever goes out. And the story that the curators
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: say is that it is left exactly as it was
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: the day Elvis died. There's a styrofoam cup on a
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: counter where he left it. The record on his turntable
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: in his bedroom is the one he was listening to
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: when he died.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Is truly.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I wonder if they left any of his guns there.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure no. Really, they go clean it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: And like the chalk in the pool table, like in
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: the little draw on the pool table, is the chalk
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: that was there when Elvis was live. They they were
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: cleaning some credenza or something in the jungle room. And
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I want to say they found like a knife or something,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: they found something strange in there, and they put it back.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, everything is left truly untouched. And they're like, no
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: one is allowed up there. They've had visiting dignitaries, they've
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: had presidents, they've had you know, foreign leaders, and of
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: course everyone wants to see, you know, Elvis's private course.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Nobody is allowed up that. The only person who was
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: not a member of Elvis's immediate family who did was
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Nicholas Cage, who took the novel approach of marrying Lisa
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Marie Presley few thousands and so he apparently went up
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: there and tried on one of Elvis's leather jackets and
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: sat at Elvis's bed.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it served as a symbol of his individuality
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: and his belief in personal freedom. Danny wild at heart
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: fans out there, that's what's yeah, Marry Elvis Codd in
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: that movie clearly was a big fan of the guy.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: And this guy, Elvis Presley, lived such a life. He
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: did more in his forty two years than any other
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: people would do in one hundred or ninety one, depending
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: on what Elvis is up to today bringing that conspiracy back.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's why they don't allow anyone up there. Maybe
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: he's still up there watching money Python and yeah, we've
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: got gold loaves.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: We've got to follow the money. We've got to do
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the numbers on the Colorado Mind Company and see how
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: their orders are spiking on Fool's Loaf.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: And I mentioned the use of Graceland as a kind
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: of set piece in this series Paradise. I want to
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: spoil anything about the show, but all of the things
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: that you're talking about, ben those questions that you're asking about,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: were their guns still remaining in the house, that record
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: still on the record player, the off limits upstairs, the cars,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: all of those things play into it because if you
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: think about it's kind of a genius plot device, like
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: think of roving marauders and all of a sudden coming
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: upon this house that's left in the state you know
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: that it was when the man died, and all this
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: have this absolute fleet of crazy cars that they could,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: you know, hijack. It's very very cool the way it's used.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because now we have seen a musician rise from
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: humble origins in Tupelo to become a global symbol like
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: more than a man. This is now a stand in
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: or atonomy for the idea of American culture in general.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: The guns play a huge part of that. Just I
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: think we forgot to mention he bought guns as presents
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: for people all the time. In nineteen seventy alone, he
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: bought more than thirty two guns just to give out,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: maybe to his mafia buddies, maybe to people he saw
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: on the street, maybe at a show. And get this,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I we forgot to mention this. When he had his
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: interactions with President Richard Nixon in nineteen seventy, he gave
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Nixon a forty five as a president, which I don't
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you could do that with presidents. That
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: seems like a threat.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Wasn't this also like sort of when I was mentioning
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: the pr stunt of all of that in that photo op,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: wasn't that Nixon kind of trying to like look cool
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: and like be like kind of like I'm hip, I'm
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: with it. I get what the youth are into. But
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: by that point Elvis wasn't cool with the youth. He
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: was such a symbol of like the old guard and
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: like the square set and like the kind of music
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: your parents would have been into.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Elvis definitely had his own reasons for agreeing to
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: all this. Yeah, No, there was something that it was
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: definitely because this was the era I think when he
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: when Nixon went out to the to the mall and
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: started talking to like anti war protesters at like four
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: in the morning, and like he was in a bad way.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Nixon was in this era trying to desperately recover the
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: cool factor that he never.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Had, exactly, Yeah, searching for something he didn't have. What
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: we had here is a phenomenal time. I don't know
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: about everybody else, but even from being from Tennessee, I've
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: learned a lot of stuff about mister Presley that I
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: did not know. And Jordan, we cannot thank you enough
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: for joining us on this special two part series about
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Elvis Presley. Dude, where can people learn more about you?
• 34:08
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• 34:11
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• 34:14
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• 34:17
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• 34:19
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• 34:21
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• 34:26
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• 34:30
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• 34:33
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• 34:36
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• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes, that was It is twice as long as
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: the three hour movie, So strap in, folks.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Also also another thing we forgot to bit you on here, Jordan.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: One of the most fun parts about researching this, as
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: with so many other topics and music history, is that
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I would I would run into a sort and I
• 35:00
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• 35:02
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• 35:05
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• 35:09
  Speaker 1: You wrote the stuff I was looking up thinking Jordan
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: might think this is interesting.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's so funny.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Oh man, that's nice to hear.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Well, Jordan, thank you so much for joining us. We
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: can't wait to have you on in the future for
• 35:22
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• 35:26
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• 35:30
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• 35:36
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• 35:39
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• 35:40
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• 35:59
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• 36:03
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• 36:11
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