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Ep 9: Jen Schreiber (Schreiberoni) · Frap Rap with GDogggggggg

• The Mediaocean Podcast Network: Welcome to Frap Rap. I'm your host, Aaron Goldman, aka G, the artist formerly known on AOL Instant Messenger as G Dog with 8Gs. Yes, one through seven were taken. Twenty-five years ago, I was an AE at an ad network called L90, and my biggest client was StarCom IP. Every Thursday, I'd invite everyone in Chicago at 35 West Wacker to meet me at the Cozy across the street for coffee. And for each person that came, I'd do a freestyle rap about them. Hence the name for Rap Rap. Each episode I tracked down another OGI peer to reminisce about the good old days and see what they're up to now. And we got an OG in studio. Well, not in studio, on the virtual studio today. Jen Schreiber. Jen, welcome to FrapRap. Thanks, Cheeto. Go, go, go, go. This is awesome. So great to see you. I look forward to catching up. You look great. You've got the perfect background. Where am I catching you? Where's this beautiful backdrop that I'm in? I'm in my home office today. Yeah. ⁓ I have I do h have an orchid behind me. That's what that is, that weird sticky thing. Got a a purple ⁓ purple thing going back there. And then is that also a painting of another flower? Is that also an orchid in the painting? I actually made that painting ⁓ when I was in college. Okay. Wow, all right. Very 'cause I used be artistic. And now you're just ⁓ flipping homes. Pretty much. We'll get to all that. ⁓ first we want to start back ⁓ back in ⁓ the IP days. And so when did you start there and what was your role at the time? Okay, so I started in 2000. and I came in as an associate associate media director. Okay. I think. Yeah. AMD. That was a a role that I was an AMD. I was working for Wendy McGregor, who was Then Wendy Barski. And ⁓ I was working with Aaron Vogel, ⁓ Angeline Gomez. Now she's Gomez. there were a few other people. Yeah. I came that's when I started. Yeah, it was fun. I think we were like 40 people then. So I have, of course, I've saved my Rolodex from back in the day and right here under S's. No. Stop! My old business card. Does it say associate director? It sure does. It says associate director. And actually, this is ⁓ in at the bottom I would write notes ⁓ based off of like the context for meeting you. ⁓ my god, with Angeline. It's how January 30th with Angeline. Yep. So there we go. Wait, I have to see. Do I have the same cell phone number? ⁓ we're about to dox you on the internet here. Now I'm guessing this is let's I can't actually see it. Yeah, the camera doesn't want to zoom. for those who are ⁓ listening to the audio and not getting the full video experience, you just saw ⁓ Jen in her glasses ⁓ squinting while I was holding up something that was blurry. So this was a me thing, not a genthing. ⁓ this actually has your voice and your fax. There's no sell on it. And these are both ⁓ two two zero numbers, which of course. Those are starting up numbers. ⁓ my god, I had a fax. Isn't that well it's funny because now I actually put my phone number all over social media. You want yeah, but you want everybody to to call Is there a jingle yet? Do you have a jingle with your like I would I should come up with a cars for kids, but hopefully more annoying than that. What what what fake voices behind those annoying little kids? ⁓ I hate that commercial. ⁓ no, I do have ⁓ I so I have a bus bench I got last year and a friend of mine did an AI of me dancing in front of it to music. So that's like the closest that I've come to a jingle. But you know what? You you it it could happen. That's Maybe you can help. I I I'm here to help promote you and and your business. ⁓ what we'll do ⁓ I want I want the AI ⁓ gen dancing in front of the bench. We'll put that on the FrapRap website, ⁓ which is the thing we now have. ⁓ and while I guess let's just keep jumping around. We don't have to stick to the you know the the normal flow of these things. Okay. ⁓ let's start at the end. So so now so you're in real estate ⁓ and your your name and picture is is ⁓ a place where people put their butts ⁓ apparently down. How ⁓ How how did you how how did that come to be? And then we'll back up to like what parts of maybe ⁓ the advertising and media world you you've taken with you into this ⁓ new career. Absolutely. Okay. So ⁓ this year was actually 10 years for me in real estate. and it was wow. Thank you. Thank you so much. so after StarCom after Starcom IP, I sort of migrated into IP Pixel. with Nick Yacke and ⁓ John Rafferty. And I was I was doing that for a few years. And then I went to the dark side and I went to point roll. And I was there for I don't know, six years maybe. after just a big layoff and me becoming just done with the industry, it had changed so much. Like I mean, I got into it in ninety eight. So, you know, it was like it was a long run. I was done. And the night that I got laid off, I ⁓ Alison Latimer happened to be in town and we had dinner. And she was like, I really want you to talk to my friend who's a coach. And I did. And that coach kind of like really helped me just totally pivot. And this was something I had always dreamed of doing and was really scared because like You know, you eat what you kill. There's no steady paycheck. It was so different. It was not gonna be nine to five. Not that most of the time our job was. But ⁓ I pivoted and I went full time in in 2016. And so now ten years later, like your ⁓ the when when you went w went with the coach and you thought about the pivot, like was it Yeah. Was it like real estate? Was that the how or is just more I'm ready to leave my advertising? It was I'm ready to leave. And the process was really kind of like uncovering like, how do I get rid of the fears? Right? What what interests me? How do I get rid of the fears? And it was like a it was kind of this big aha of like, I'm the only one holding myself back here. And I can do this. I've always had a good work ethic. I've always worked hard. And truthfully, and this is a little crawling back to. coming from the industry that I did, I I was in my mid forties when I made the change and I had such a good network because of because of digital advertising, right? So I came into it knowing so many people and it just took a f a handful of people that I knew to take a chance on me and it all sort of went from there. So I was I was really lucky. And have you been able ⁓ you know, jingles aside, ⁓ have you been able to use some of the, you know, sk beyond the network, ⁓ some of the skills from the advertising and media days in your Definitely. I mean, there's there are a lot of skills, but I have to say, I now run Van Raz. I have an AdWorks campaign, which is so which is actually only going to people that I know. so that's kind of fun. I don't actually track my own clicks. It's just to be out there. But there are a lot of things from from digital and just like marketing in general. And I did graphic design before I went into digital advertising. So all the things that came from there that that definitely helped. ⁓ but like my first love in the world was architecture. And so, you know, I could spend all day looking at like, you know, buildings and interior design and I love that stuff. And then, you know, between managing people at IP, learning to manage clients, you know, you're it's it it set me up very well. And then of course sales going into sales. So and we were always doing a certain amount of sales even at the agency. So It was there were a lot of ⁓ there were a lot of benefits that that that I took from there that got me to this place. Yeah. I'm sure it's not all the perks have carried over. I'm sure with your ⁓ hefty AdWords budget, you're not probably getting a lot of love from Google reps ⁓ lighting and dining you. No, Jim Murphy is not calling me, ⁓ trying to, you know, negotiate Yahoo rates. like if he's looking for a new home. Yeah, maybe Jim, call me. ⁓ but what's funny, I've actually worked with a lot of IPers. ⁓ which is great. Yeah. I think my very first IP client what ⁓ you know what? It was actually Melissa King, even though she was only at IP for like two weeks, because then she moved to California unexpectedly. But ⁓ Margaret Bell I think was my very first. And I've worked with like eight or nine. I worked with Garvin and Hawker. And ⁓ there's a lot of there's a lot ⁓ Kevin Lang twice. So okay. Yeah, there's a lot there's a lot of IPs who who called me and, you know, let me help them. So that's incredible. ⁓ I know we we talked about and acknowledge ⁓ Hillary on a previous episode too, but ⁓ always always in our hearts for sure. Always. ⁓ it's looking at the picture right up here. One of the It's it's interesting. the the network piece and you, you know, kind of going going back to the well with ⁓ you know, some of your clo I mean, because we were this is ⁓ this was all the people we knew. There's all the time, you know, we spent all the time. So there's that trust that gets built up. And in your space, I'm sure it's all about trust and and that's kind of the key ⁓ sort of ⁓ benefit that that that you bring to folks. The do you ever feel weird like I don't know. I'm I think about like I've gotten calls from other people I've worked with in like the advertising context and now they're in like personal finance, you know, and they want to s you know, sell me like, you know, ⁓ whole whole life insurance or ⁓ like what the hell do you know about life insurance? Right. Like some of these people who've gone you they they get into like these, you know, what do we call them? Multi-level marketing ⁓ companies and then they start like, you know, sp spamming their whole network. Did you ever feel like you were, you know, like Did it feel weird or awkward, or was it just perfectly natural to call your friends and say, Hey, if you need help, I can help you? It's a it's a really good question. And ⁓ in the beginning it did. And and here's the thing. It's like so to get license, you take like a ninety hours of class just to take the test. And then you take the test and you come into the industry knowing nothing. The classes you have taken have been to, you know, to take the test. It's like you know, SAT courses. So ⁓ but I came in and because I was able to do this full time, and the eight the the brokerage that I chose to come to, ⁓ it was very purposeful. The managing director ⁓ or the managing broker at my brokerage, I just absolutely fell in love with her. She took me under her wing and ⁓ I learned a lot pretty quickly. And ⁓ the what what's funny is one of my friends had reached out to me. I was I was probably doing this for about six months and she reached out and she's like, We want to sell, but like and we love you, but you are brand new. And I was like, I totally get it. And I'm gonna bring in my managing broker. And we went and we met with my friends. And she said, She's like, I've taught I've been like teaching Jen nonstop for the last six months. And any questions she has, I'm gonna be here. And I was able to do a great job. I like they've used me since. And I just I started to build confidence. But I also have great ⁓ colleagues within this industry and friendships that I developed. This this can be a very solitary industry. And if you don't have those those, you know, buddies to bounce things off of, I still do it every day because you ev every day there's like some new situation, right? ⁓ So I've had people to bounce off of. And I I would say that like after by the first maybe 18 months, I felt like, okay, I actually know what I'm doing. And it felt very natural to me. so in the beginning for sure. Yeah. But now now I I've had to assure some I have a very good friend who has said to me, like, I'm so nervous that you're gonna think I'm the biggest pain in the ass. I'm like, you have no idea. Like it's gonna be fine. So I can understand why other people might feel weird about it. ⁓ but I don't feel weird about it. Cool. And you've never lost a friendship ⁓ as a result of ⁓ something gone wrong in the trenches. That's good. No. No. I'm and I'm working with one of my closest friends right now on a sale on her sale, and it's great. You know, it's funny to sometimes switch between like fun regular gen and fun ri and sometimes serious real estate gen, but I haven't. I haven't I don't think I have. But maybe there'll be a note in the comments later. Please reach out. Who's got it out for me? Murphy, when you're ready to buy your house, call us. ⁓ and then anyone else, ⁓ if you've had a bad experience with Jen, please ⁓ ring this number. 8777 Homes for Jen. That's it. That's it. I don't know if we can get that one. all right. So so you mentioned one of the things that was different about like this career versus your first career. was the ⁓ sort of solitary nature of it, right? You're you know, you're part of yes, you're part you're you're part of a group, but you're really, you know, it's you and your book and your and your customers and you have to work through the process versus maybe in the IP days you were part of a team. There was, I don't know, five, six, eight of you on an account with a bunch of other resources. Yeah. ⁓ What else you think, like when you compare and contrast ⁓ you know the the early days of digital media to the you know current days of the real estate? Like what are some the other things that are you you find to be different or interesting? ⁓ okay, I need to think about that. ⁓ I will say, I mean, I've I've made some like some of my closest friends in both. So like there's a crew So like Vogel, Hammy, Acuff, Navarro. Like I see them all the time. Like they are they are still part of my closest friend group. ⁓ and then I have some new friends. And like you kind you bond over the work. I think when we were younger in IP, like we were there so much. I mean, we were gonna be such great friends anyway, all of us. ⁓ so I've definitely made some some great friendships. ⁓ but Do those groups mix now or do are those separate? They do sometimes, yeah. Like they they know each other. Okay, that's cool. Yeah, which is great. The I think one of the bigger differentiators is that no one else is really like in a in a normal transaction, like I have an attor you know my client clients, I have an attorney, another attorney, there's an you know, there's people that are involved, a lender, but ⁓ you know, I'm c I am responsible for what I create. And ⁓ That's so different than like when you are working on a team where different people are really contributing. Like in in many transactions, like even though there's an attorney or even though there's a lender, they're the clients are coming to me to ask most of the questions because I'm sort of acting as the guide. So in that way, it's very similar in in a in a way to being like an associate director, you know, or or a media director, but ⁓ but I think I'm just more responsible for ⁓ for what I deliver and the experience that I give my clients. The other th thing that's a very different is I'm only working with someone for like maybe three months, maybe six months, and then we're not working together anymore. Like I'm keeping in touch with them, right? So it's like an IP if you get stuck with a bad client, like tough shit. Like you're done. If I'm working with a tough client, I'm like, I'm gonna be done with them in three months. And cool, moving on. Yeah. So, you know, and the ones that who I love and who, you know, I keep in touch with all my clients. I have an event every year to, you know, see as many clients as I can. ⁓ and I'm I'm very good about keeping up with them. So I do work with them r you know, repeatedly. ⁓ so that's you're not you're not stuck with your with what you're given. You know, I can change it at any point. If I want to decide that I'm not gonna do ⁓ you know, traditional residential sales and I'm just gonna work with developers. Like I could do that. So I'm I'm creating my own sort of destiny, but I'm also like, you know, during slow times, I'm gonna be slow. And I'm I'm not getting the, you know, the same type of paycheck that maybe I was getting six months before. So you have to kind of roll with it. You have to be able to be financially responsible. and know that like some years are gonna be better than others. And some months are gonna be better than others. Yeah, and adapt. Yeah. I think the the ⁓ cer there's certainly a common thread around sort of that entrepreneurial spirit, I think, that you brought into where you are now and I think was certainly a part of like you and and and a lot of the folks at IP. I think ⁓ you know, that that collection of people was almost it almost breeded that you you had to have that kind of ⁓ ethos and approach because we were all just sort of like figuring it out and Totally. Yes, there were, you know, metrics and clients that we had to answer to, but yeah. There was a lot of room for interpretation. Absolutely. Absolutely. So I mean it's that there there are a lot more similarities probably than I'm even thinking of right now. Yeah. But well let's let's jog your memory and go back there. So so you say, All right, so so two thousand w ⁓ we started. ⁓ do you remember what account you worked on at first? ⁓ McDonald's. ⁓ it's McDonald okay. And ⁓ d ⁓ what at at the time, like do what was the state of do you remember like what were what was like i innovative for McDonald's and digital at the time? Were you just like getting them a website or what was going on? We were we were doing like god, I don't even remember what they're freaking called. Like ⁓ like jump pages? ⁓ yeah, sure. Yeah. ⁓ like a yeah, or like a microsite maybe? Microsite, that's it. Uh-huh. ⁓ god, I'm really like I've been out for a while. ⁓ the we were doing jump pages. We were doing, I mean, we did some really, really cool stuff. Like I remember being very proud of a collaboration that we did with ⁓ Nick Jr. And we got like this awesome game that was on a CD-ROM into the, you know, slipped into the packaging. And I I loved working on McDonald's. Like I loved it. I feel like that was kind of my identity at StarCon IP. ⁓ but We were it was interesting because we were only working on the kids account. And ⁓ the just the way that the that it was split up. The business was split, right? Yeah. Did was it did OMD have adult? They had adult. Yeah. And we had kid, and I think we had pitched it at some point, and then we had like we were gonna win it, but then there was some conflict of interest. I don't know. ⁓ but I worked on that. I've worked on Sony. Mm-hmm. ⁓ I think that Volvo topics. And that was ⁓ Sony Pictures, right? Not like the Sony Walkman. Okay. Yeah. S P D E, Sony Pictures Digital Entertainment. That was the I remember the acronym. Yeah. How do you even remember that? I it was my job was to like memorize this org chart and know like exactly what everybody's Now this is ⁓ this one's from 2005. So let's see. At this point you're yeah, you were already IP Pixel, I see. You were still doing some work on finish line sports. ⁓ you had Hallmark. ⁓ my gosh, you had a lot you had like eight lines of Sarah Lee. Sakery Group Consulting. Sinseo. Was that their like ⁓ coffee ⁓ pod thing? Yeah. Right. They were trying to be that was before Keurig. Sara why does it say Sarah Lee dash Bally Total Fitness, Haynes, Jimmy Dean's? Were these like co marketing? They ⁓ no, they were Haynes was like owned by Sarah Lee. ⁓ no kidding. Okay. Yeah, I think so because we were was Haynes the one we were working on both food and Haynes. Haynes Haynes was was pixel. I can't remember, but we worked with Sarah I worked with Vogel on Sarah Lee both in IP and in Pixel. Okay. I think ⁓ I'm just picturing the the crossover ⁓ Michael Jordan and his, you know, Haynes ⁓ eating like ⁓ you know, croissant or something. I I'm sure that I d y I I I just I didn't realize all those ⁓ rants rolled up. You must have ⁓ but then they separated. that the progression? Yeah, it was in Pixel. ⁓ I So two thousand five to like two thousand eight. And then I w I left I think I left in two thousand eight and then I was at a Poirot for like eight years. Long time. And what was the you you know, you you ⁓ what was the impetus for leaving StarCom, going to point roll? Do you remember back in at that point what what the decision was hinging on? I think it was I was kinda I don't know, like I think that my contrab no. Well, yes. Yes, but that wasn't the reason. I think that I was getting a little over agency life. To be honest. TBH, as the kids say. ⁓ the money was the money was definitely ⁓ a nice change. ⁓ but I'd spent a long time at 35 West Whacker. And ⁓ It was just time for something. It was time. And it was great. I loved being I went, you know, I was managing it at the whole time I was at StarCon, and it was really nice to be an individual contributor. And then I was calling on publishers. At point roll. Right. ⁓ you offering them the fat boys, the skinny boys, right? Wasn't that the product line? All the different boys. Whoa. Who who was in charge of product marketing for point roll? What were they smoking at the time? I don't even know. I I loved working there. It was but I mean it was all cuckoo, but it was fun. It was really fun. And a bunch of ⁓ people from StarCom had ⁓ come from there, which was nice. Right on. All right, so I think it's time we should ⁓ transmission into the apartment crawl round. Do you have your solo cup or something that'll pass for one? All right, what does that say? American Bocce Company. American Bocce Company. Got a high. This was this was part of a gift, a part of a prize. And how let me guess, ⁓ you won a round of bocce? I won me my little team. There were two levels, the gold level and the silver level. Silver's lower. We won the silver tournament. Last summer. Sounds impressive. ⁓ I don't know what those ⁓ levels correspond to, but I'm sure you are and not as good. Okay. Gold was good, silver was not as good. And we won t the tournament for not as good. And we were so psyched. Well, that's awesome. ⁓ so of course the apartment crawls this is our speed round and it's kind of like a throwback to the days ⁓ at IP where we'd go around to ⁓ different ⁓ people's apartments and ⁓ have a drink, make a mess, and then move on. ⁓ before we start, any interesting apartment curl memories you want to share? I never went to an apartment curl. Well, this is a first. We're breaking new ground. So wait, I have to explain it to you? Then I guess I was explaining it for the to the listeners, but I guess I need to explain so Jen, there was this thing. So seriously, what happened? Why You must have known about it. What you just never you chose not to go? I I just ⁓ I th it's possible I went to one. Okay. ⁓ I was a little bit older than some of the people who I hung out with at IP and they were more into partying than I was. Okay. The joke is is that I always wanted to go home by like ten to watch reruns of Will and Grace. And I did. And Vogel bought me the box set at one point so that I no longer had an excuse to go home. That's And that didn't really that didn't really work. I still left. ⁓ I I've let me just say I've I've definitely went to IP parties and I never missed a burnout breakfast. But I don't I think I actually went to an apartment crawl. Okay. Wow. Well, this is a first. ⁓ like when we had Shelby on, she was talking about how like her strat was, you know, she would go, but then leave after the first place. So she could like at least put some face in. You felt you didn't even feel obligated to do that. You said go ahead. It is possible that I did that. I think that ⁓ Vogel or Hammy might remember, but I don't. Okay. Well, and and and Grasham supposedly has like some footage too. So we could actually go and check the tape. ⁓ and see if if you've been spotted at at any of these. And maybe just over time you erased it from your memory for other reasons. Terrifying. I've seen some footage back from those days and and I'm I'm afraid to know what she has. All right. Well, ⁓ we'll see. I yeah, I i i it's ⁓ it's unknowable if it you know. As of now, it's just a a threat that she's made ⁓ to pull out. Who knows if if it actually exists. She only lives two blocks away, so you know, I I could probably get in there if I need to. Crawl over there and have a look. Bring your ibace. We're gonna farm and crop over to Hammy's house. ⁓ well, cheers. All right. So ⁓ here we go. Quick answers. ⁓ first question that I've asked everyone, and this will be the name of the episode. What was your AOL in some messenger handle? Shriberoni. Shriberoni. And then pepperoni, but the Schreiber version? ⁓ yeah. Shribaroni, the San Francisco treat. The San Francisco 8777 Holmes from Jen. First boss at IP? ⁓ Wendy Barsky McGregor. Favorite client? McDonald's. If you could have worked on any account other than ones that you did, what should what do you wish you'd have worked on? Not network solutions. Now I like it. This is great. Maybe ⁓ maybe Kellogg's. But definitely not network solutions. Yeah. Kellogg's has come up a bunch with others. Miller's been a hot did you ever work on Miller? That was a hot one that people who weren't on it wish they could have. anything ⁓ that you regret ⁓ in your career or a mistake that you made that this stick sticks out to you now. I have a lot of regrets. I'm just kidding. I made the mistake of telling ⁓ our lead client at McDonald's that I didn't love the product that was like pancakes filled with syrup with a frickin' patty. And he said, even if you don't like it, you never say that to the client. And I was like, Noted. I'm sure I have other regrets. ⁓ I regret not going to the Parker crawls. Not too late. Well I'll meet you at Hammies ⁓ in an hour. You got it. See ya. ⁓ anything still on your professional bucket list. ⁓ my god. You know, I'm gonna say I need to probably get back to you on that. I'm pretty happy with where with where I am right now. That's great. ⁓ Yeah. What are you most excited about for the year ahead? ⁓ I'm excited. Let me think about that. I'd like to get some good travel in in the next year. All right. Let's make it happen. Manifest it. I'm I'm hoping Scandinavia in the next year. What about you? What are you most excited about? ⁓ well, no one's ever turned the question around on me. I'm most excited about ⁓ completing my Frap Rap Starcom IP org chart, getting everybody on and then closing the season with Rashad. ⁓ that is my goal. ⁓ my god, yes. So I hope everybody stays tuned in. ⁓ it's been super fun. And And we're gonna make it happen. So all right. Well thanks for playing. ⁓ the other question I ask everybody. Present company excluded, ⁓ favorite vendor from back in your IP days. ⁓ my Who bought us the most stuff? I'm just kidding. fa present company excluded. I ha I might have to actually say Murph because we had a we had a pretty we we had a pretty tumultuous I spent a lot of time yelling at him, but I actually really adored him. Also Ed D'Anofrio. I love it. Yeah, was he ⁓ I love Eddie D. He was he was Yahoo. ⁓ he was Yahoo, okay. Mm-hmm. Eddie D. shout out. ⁓ we'll tag them ⁓ and see if they're ⁓ lurking out there and then can respond ⁓ in the comments ⁓ in in kind. Well thanks for playing apartment crawl. ⁓ we can pour out what's left. ⁓ we've covered it all. ⁓ and now it's time for the Frap Rap. So to close the show, ⁓ you're gonna have to if give me ⁓ and if you have props, if you have ⁓ some keywords you wanna ⁓ shout out, anything that will be some inspiration. For me to do my freestyle. And this is ⁓ just like back in the day where everyone who came to Frap Rap got a little ⁓ something to work in. So ⁓ what do you think? How should we do this? How do you wanna play it? I'm gonna throw out a ⁓ I'm gonna throw out a word. Okay. I'll take it. Whatever you're in. Interstitial? Interstitial. So ⁓ so one of the fun ⁓ things about doing these so so we record them and they come out usually like a week or two later. ⁓ but I actually had ⁓ superstitial ⁓ in one of them. So ⁓ this is great. We're we're we're ⁓ retreading some ground. Now what the question is, what was the difference between an interstitial and a superstitial? And if any of our listeners remember that, please do let us know. Actually, no one's gonna know it. Pranov Pandit. He commented on the last one. He knew that, because we couldn't remember who made Shoshkali's, and he called out it was United Virtualities. So we're counting on you, Pranov. Let us know. What was the difference between it? Unbelievable recall. So ⁓ yes, we need to know. Pranov, what's the difference between an interstitial and a superstitial? And we're gonna start the beatbox now. My producer Rob's gonna add the ⁓ beatbox in post production and we'll put the magic together. Here we go. Yo yo, it's AG, and I'm ramming off the dome. Shout out to Schreiber. She's gonna sell you a home. 877, give it up for Jen, because you know we will wind until the very end. The raps come free, the next thing's gonna cost you. I don't know where I did I'ma gotta cuss it, not at the apartment call because Jen wouldn't be there. She would rip Jen or the Steve Clear and she would keep her nose in the air. No, just kidding. She was great and I'm too. And that's why we rocket. We're just two crazy Jews gonna do it for you all along the way. And a muzzle tub is a what I say. So back in the day we would buy these ad units. We don't even know what to call ⁓ We would just make up some names and put a thing on it and we'd slap it and then we would ball them. And we would put ⁓ up. And we would shake ⁓ up and we would raise ⁓ up in our solo cup and we would say Hey, we about to make it official. Let's buy yo another interstitial. We'll call it a dollar 20 CPM. And then we'll drive it down to the very end. And maybe if you like it, we'll put some pancakes too. And we'll stack them up high. McDonald's, it's not for you. Two for two on the menu. We don't do that too because we tell you that we like it, foo. And what's next? One more keyword from you, and then we'll wrap this thing up and go back to the Jewel Asu-O, Asuko-O. We'll go back to the Jewel Asu, yo. What you got for me? Another word? Yes, please. Fourteenth floor. Fourteenth floor, we gotta go a little more, we gotta give it up because you know we bang on the door. We knock down with Leo and his apple when he says turn the lights on. We don't mean to babble, but we'll bab back floor when we scat, scat, scat, we sneak out the door and shoot him on down to the first floor. And we walk out on whacker, we don't mean to smack it, we say goodbye, peace out, and we love to laugh yeah. I cannot wait to see what the subtitles come out with for that last part. ⁓ that was amazing. ⁓ thank you for I don't know how you do this. This was so great. Thank you, Feli. I it was so great catching up. ⁓ appreciate you. Jen. Appreciate you. 1877 Homes 4. But that makes it seem like the homes are for you. It should really be a home from Jen, but no phone numbers that long. We're gonna workshop it. So we're gonna think about it. It's ⁓ jingle contest. I love that you're doing this. I think this is a And Jenna will allocate her ⁓ Google budget for one month to whoever comes up with a good jingle. Exactly. Amazing. Great to see you. Be well, and ⁓ we'll see everybody on the next wrap rap. Take care. You're listening to the Media Ocean Podcast Network. For more of our shows, visit www.mediaocean.com slash podcasts.