Latest / The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network / What to learn from Week 4 | Jags Drive Time: Monday, October 3
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive, John, Ashlyn Sells, John Oceans, Bryan Sex.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Jags Drive starts right now. It was hard. Um, you
- 0:16Speaker 1: know the wind gets to blowing balls, so can wet.
- 0:19Speaker 1: It's cold. But like I said, you know for us
- 0:22Speaker 1: and you know, I know for me personally, it's it's
- 0:24Speaker 1: not an excuse. Try not to use it as an excuse,
- 0:26Speaker 1: but it's a good learning experience for us. And uh,
- 0:29Speaker 1: you know this this will definitely has since yoga far.
- 0:33Speaker 1: The conditions and I'm not being dramatic saying this, We're
- 0:36Speaker 1: absolutely awful in Philadelphia as the Jaguars loose to the
- 0:40Speaker 1: Eagles one. Welcome to Jaguars Drive time on a Monday, Ashland,
- 0:44Speaker 1: Briant and John here with us. It was a roller
- 0:47Speaker 1: coaster of a game, dealing with the lots and you
- 0:50Speaker 1: don't want to use that as an excuse, but the
- 0:52Speaker 1: conditions were truly something in Philly. Yeah, they were bad
- 0:56Speaker 1: and uh I think you combine that with the team,
- 1:02Speaker 1: Uh that's really good. And a quarterback in Tarylor Lawrence
- 1:05Speaker 1: who didn't play well and you found that many times
- 1:07Speaker 1: you don't play well. Uh, you know you had a loss.
- 1:10Speaker 1: I'm not surprised with the loss. I didn't expect it
- 1:12Speaker 1: to go that way because they didn't speak to the
- 1:15Speaker 1: conditions to be that Uh. In the short term, very frustrating,
- 1:18Speaker 1: the long term not worried, but in the short term
- 1:20Speaker 1: at stake. Um, So I get off the weather and
- 1:23Speaker 1: just give you a thought that I had this morning. Um.
- 1:26Speaker 1: I went to a Jesuit high school, right, Jesuit Catholic
- 1:29Speaker 1: high school, and there was a gentleman there who was
- 1:32Speaker 1: the disciplinarian. And when you got in trouble, you went
- 1:34Speaker 1: to this particular Jesuit and he would reprimand you. And
- 1:38Speaker 1: after he reprimanded you, you walked out and go, hey, Brian,
- 1:42Speaker 1: begin again, right. And the message was the past is
- 1:45Speaker 1: the past. It's Monday morning. Start over again, begin again.
- 1:50Speaker 1: And that's all I could think of this morning is
- 1:51Speaker 1: they have to put yesterday behind them and begin again.
- 1:55Speaker 1: And in fact, I wouldn't just make that my message
- 1:58Speaker 1: today every Monday morning, win or lose on the screen.
- 2:01Speaker 1: If I were the coach, would say, begin again. You
- 2:03Speaker 1: just have to have that mindset. John. You know this.
- 2:06Speaker 1: The great cold teams that you've covered had days. They
- 2:08Speaker 1: had one here or two thousand six where they looked
- 2:11Speaker 1: anything but a Super Bowl contender. But they went back
- 2:13Speaker 1: to work with that steady mindset and they began again.
- 2:17Speaker 1: That's what five turnovers, the terrible weather, that's not going
- 2:21Speaker 1: to happen again to this team. You wouldn't think, are
- 2:23Speaker 1: we going to see the Jaguars play poorly? Yeah, we'll
- 2:25Speaker 1: see that again. But the mindset has to be okay,
- 2:28Speaker 1: begin again, figure out what you did wrong, and as
- 2:30Speaker 1: you walk out the door to go to the practice field,
- 2:32Speaker 1: begin again. No, it's so true. In Cam Robinson actually
- 2:35Speaker 1: said that in the post game locker rooms, saying today
- 2:37Speaker 1: at twelve o'clock, it's done. And I think that that's so.
- 2:40Speaker 1: What now what mindset especially applies this week? You know,
- 2:43Speaker 1: there were so many things going against the Jaguars yesterday.
- 2:45Speaker 1: We're moving past it now. This Houston game is so
- 2:49Speaker 1: much more important than it even was before this. All right,
- 2:51Speaker 1: let's get into big things. Big thing one is bullied
- 2:53Speaker 1: on Broad Street. Eagles ran fifty times for two d
- 2:56Speaker 1: and ten yards and four touchdowns out of the most
- 2:59Speaker 1: rushing attempt ever against the Jaguars defense. Cornerba actually killed
- 3:02Speaker 1: Griffin on what changed after an early fourteen zero lead
- 3:05Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. The main thing was we're trying to
- 3:09Speaker 1: do is uh try to getting turnovers for ourselves. You know.
- 3:11Speaker 1: The main thing is that us holding the ball and
- 3:13Speaker 1: let's creating turnovers. You know. I feel like we let
- 3:15Speaker 1: some players out there, you know, that's the main thing. Uh,
- 3:17Speaker 1: that's part day. We gotta come back and fix, you know,
- 3:19Speaker 1: And we had some mistackles here and there, you know,
- 3:21Speaker 1: and that's the thing that we gotta get better with.
- 3:23Speaker 1: You know. Uh, we always pride ourselves on making each tackle,
- 3:26Speaker 1: you know, and to minimize and mistackles, you know, and
- 3:28Speaker 1: getting the ball back. So you know, you gotta go
- 3:30Speaker 1: back to the game plan and know, get back in
- 3:32Speaker 1: our communication. And you know, one thing we gotta do
- 3:34Speaker 1: better with it is just making attackles that we need
- 3:35Speaker 1: to make. Big thing too is mistake meltdown a f
- 3:39Speaker 1: C Offensive Player of the Week seven days ago. It's
- 3:41Speaker 1: now unfortunately turning the ball over five times yesterday. Quarterback
- 3:44Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence on the mistake ridden day, I'm just pissed
- 3:49Speaker 1: I let those guys down and really just too many,
- 3:51Speaker 1: too many turnovers. Obviously it starts with me home on
- 3:55Speaker 1: for me today, So that's you know, no one else
- 3:57Speaker 1: to blame there, So let those guys down discipline winning.
- 4:00Speaker 1: You know, I felt like we had a chance to
- 4:03Speaker 1: win that game, and we did and you know, the
- 4:04Speaker 1: same thing in there. So that's that's really frustrating. You know,
- 4:07Speaker 1: I just gotta you know, I gotta take better care
- 4:09Speaker 1: of the ball, Gotta tuck it. I mean, there's there's
- 4:11Speaker 1: gonna be things to learn from and obviously just really
- 4:15Speaker 1: really disappointed right now. And finally, big thing three is
- 4:18Speaker 1: up and down. This looks like the team we saw
- 4:20Speaker 1: a Week one against the Washington Commanders, not the team
- 4:23Speaker 1: we saw a Week two against the Colts. We three
- 4:25Speaker 1: against the Chargers. Might be up and down for a
- 4:27Speaker 1: while with this team, especially a young team learning to
- 4:31Speaker 1: stay consistent. Coach Peterson knows that I think I got
- 4:35Speaker 1: a great deal for this football team. The guys are mad,
- 4:39Speaker 1: kind a little bit ticked off, you know, um, and
- 4:41Speaker 1: they should be, you know, they should hate losing more
- 4:44Speaker 1: than they enjoy winning. And so I told him after game,
- 4:47Speaker 1: and uh, you know, um, twenty four hours, we'll get
- 4:51Speaker 1: in the film room tomorrow and we'll look at it
- 4:54Speaker 1: and fix fix it and make the corrections and then
- 4:56Speaker 1: move on you know, but um, it's a good group
- 4:59Speaker 1: of men in there, and and they're you know, they
- 5:02Speaker 1: hurt just like I do. And um, they want it
- 5:05Speaker 1: just like I do. And um, you know we'll we'll
- 5:08Speaker 1: get a six and that is big things. Even with
- 5:11Speaker 1: all the mistakes we just talked about, especially the fumbles
- 5:14Speaker 1: and the turnovers, that really was the story of the game.
- 5:17Speaker 1: When you look at the final score, I'll be I'll
- 5:19Speaker 1: be sure to say it. On the field, it didn't
- 5:21Speaker 1: feel that close. And the second and third quarter you
- 5:23Speaker 1: looked up and you saw in the fourth quarter of
- 5:25Speaker 1: the chance to go and tie the game, and you thought,
- 5:26Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the score has been this close the
- 5:29Speaker 1: entire game. It didn't feel like that. It felt like
- 5:31Speaker 1: starting the second quarter of the Eagles had all the
- 5:33Speaker 1: momentum and I never really felt like it shifted toward
- 5:36Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Well they did, And I understand what you
- 5:38Speaker 1: feel like because I felt that way too. And then
- 5:40Speaker 1: I rewatched the game this morning. Um, if you're looking
- 5:44Speaker 1: for I say a positive but as as something to say,
- 5:49Speaker 1: are the Jaguars better than they were? Uh? Fourteen a
- 5:54Speaker 1: halftime And it felt just like talking about Eagles had
- 5:56Speaker 1: all the momentum and the defense comes out and gets
- 6:00Speaker 1: at least two stops, maybe three. You're fourteen, and although
- 6:06Speaker 1: it feels like what Slenn's talking about, the offense starts driving.
- 6:10Speaker 1: They have a chance to go take the lead, and
- 6:12Speaker 1: you thought, Okay, this is a mature team that can
- 6:14Speaker 1: take a gut punch and come back from it. And
- 6:18Speaker 1: then you had what I thought was the keeper with
- 6:21Speaker 1: all the fumbles aside, I that moment really turned it.
- 6:27Speaker 1: But then again they showed professionalism and stayed in it
- 6:31Speaker 1: at the end and had a chance. I agree the
- 6:33Speaker 1: fourth quarter wasn't that close. The third quarter was legitimately close.
- 6:37Speaker 1: And if they don't throw that pick there they turned
- 6:39Speaker 1: into they pick there, I think it's a different game
- 6:41Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. I still think they lose because
- 6:43Speaker 1: I think the Eagles had matchups that they were going
- 6:45Speaker 1: to be able to exploit in big situations. But they're
- 6:49Speaker 1: the best team in football right now. Well so the
- 6:52Speaker 1: player you're saying, and if folks haven't had a chance
- 6:53Speaker 1: to go back and watch it, right on that play,
- 6:56Speaker 1: he forced the ball into Kirk right and you could
- 6:58Speaker 1: just feel he was trying to get Kirk going. The broadcast,
- 7:00Speaker 1: I said they had all the eyes on beginning, Marvin
- 7:03Speaker 1: Jones and Kirk, and then you had Agnew behind him,
- 7:05Speaker 1: and you had two defenders. Agnew scores they're right, But
- 7:08Speaker 1: that was a young quarterback who got greedy, right. He
- 7:11Speaker 1: wanted to play that. He wanted Kirk, and he wanted
- 7:13Speaker 1: to touchdown. He wanted it all um, and he he
- 7:16Speaker 1: lost his composure in that moment um. I'll say this also,
- 7:21Speaker 1: here's why it didn't feel like the Jaguars were in it.
- 7:24Speaker 1: The Eagles ran the ball fifty times. That's the most
- 7:27Speaker 1: against the Jaguars enfranchise history, fifty times, and four those
- 7:32Speaker 1: at the end right were kneeled downs. I mean, so
- 7:36Speaker 1: it was forty six. Who cares? They just they controlled
- 7:39Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, which was a surprise. Although we
- 7:42Speaker 1: knew they were a good running team. The Jaguars came
- 7:44Speaker 1: in as the best run defense, not because they were
- 7:48Speaker 1: the most physically dominant, because they had built a really
- 7:50Speaker 1: lead to the last two weeks and they had prevented
- 7:52Speaker 1: teams from running the ball. So there's some holes, there's
- 7:55Speaker 1: some things that have to get fixed, and and that's
- 7:58Speaker 1: what I imagine they'll go do. The The interception was
- 8:02Speaker 1: absolutely the turning point in the game because if they
- 8:04Speaker 1: go up there, yeah, who knows where you go there,
- 8:07Speaker 1: But it was it was so impressive to watch them
- 8:10Speaker 1: get down the field and then when he looked at
- 8:11Speaker 1: Kirk and went no, no. You can see the snap
- 8:14Speaker 1: of the ball, Agne was all by himself in the
- 8:16Speaker 1: flat and I'm screaming throw it to Agnew, right, And
- 8:19Speaker 1: that was kind of the mismatch we saw. And whether
- 8:21Speaker 1: it was because A. Jones wasn't playing, it seemed like
- 8:24Speaker 1: the Eagles didn't have an answer for Jamal Agnew because
- 8:26Speaker 1: we haven't seen him in that much of an offensive role.
- 8:28Speaker 1: So this is a well coached team. They put them
- 8:30Speaker 1: in a position in the third quarter coming out of
- 8:32Speaker 1: the locker room to be able to go and do that.
- 8:34Speaker 1: I was impressed, And even with everything going on in
- 8:37Speaker 1: the locker room, the sentiment was, Okay, this Eagles team
- 8:40Speaker 1: is incredibly well coached and they had a plan with
- 8:42Speaker 1: running the football in this weather and it worked and
- 8:45Speaker 1: we couldn't stop them. Well, they're also even if the
- 8:49Speaker 1: Jaguars had played poorly, I mean even Ja's head and
- 8:53Speaker 1: played poorly, the Eagles were good and they're really good
- 8:57Speaker 1: up front. They believe they're the best offensive line in
- 9:00Speaker 1: the league. They played like it yesterday and they also
- 9:04Speaker 1: took advantage of uh Shaan Jenkins talked about it in
- 9:08Speaker 1: the postgame. Some young eyes on the Jaguars defense that
- 9:11Speaker 1: hadn't seen this sort of runs scheme at this level yet.
- 9:15Speaker 1: I don't think they will uh fair is poorly against
- 9:19Speaker 1: this concept the next time they see it. No disrespect
- 9:22Speaker 1: intended to the Jaguars receivers at all, they are making plays. However,
- 9:26Speaker 1: A J. Brown was the difference in a lot of
- 9:29Speaker 1: situations in that ball game, and the Jaguars I think
- 9:31Speaker 1: I would like to see them look more towards Evan
- 9:33Speaker 1: Ingram because he's that big body who moves well that
- 9:37Speaker 1: gives them the chance to be able to have an
- 9:39Speaker 1: A J. Brown quality to this. I thought A J.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Brown was a great acquisition. He's one of my favorite
- 9:44Speaker 1: players in this game. Six two to ten, long arms
- 9:48Speaker 1: and his attitude. He was a big difference maker. And
- 9:50Speaker 1: the Jaguars need to find somebody who can be that
- 9:53Speaker 1: guy for them. And I think it's Ingram right. And
- 9:55Speaker 1: I was a little confused because I think it was
- 9:57Speaker 1: I think it was after halftime where I was at
- 9:58Speaker 1: the point where Marvin Jones and Christian kirk Cotton had
- 10:01Speaker 1: to catch it, and it just felt like nothing was working.
- 10:03Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's because A. Jones wasn't
- 10:05Speaker 1: in the game. I'm curious when we asked them about
- 10:07Speaker 1: this this week, is is why wasn't it working and
- 10:09Speaker 1: why weren't the targets going to those guys? Wasn't the plan?
- 10:12Speaker 1: And I don't know, they were trying to get it
- 10:13Speaker 1: to them and they weren't catching the ball. Yeah, No,
- 10:15Speaker 1: there was a bunch of passes. It was a little
- 10:17Speaker 1: of that um and I think it was also what
- 10:20Speaker 1: Doug Peterson talked about after the game. They had forty
- 10:23Speaker 1: nine snaps, so not enough to be able. When that happens,
- 10:26Speaker 1: it feels like you're not getting guys the ball. It
- 10:29Speaker 1: feels like you're not giving your running backs a chance
- 10:32Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, you're three and out. They
- 10:34Speaker 1: hadn't had a lot of those kind of drives this year.
- 10:36Speaker 1: We had very few three and outs then played drives
- 10:38Speaker 1: coming into the game. Yeah, it felt like that's all
- 10:40Speaker 1: they had yesterday. So I think and answer why the
- 10:42Speaker 1: dynamic felt different for two weeks. Everything was sort of easy.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Yesterday everything was hard. They had one third fewer snaps.
- 10:49Speaker 1: They had seventy five snaps in the ball game in
- 10:51Speaker 1: Los Angeles and only forty nine is John mentioned that's
- 10:54Speaker 1: it's a lot fewer plays. How was it out there
- 10:56Speaker 1: by the way, Ashland? I didn't notice it. I thought
- 10:59Speaker 1: I was going to die, ever have John. I thought
- 11:01Speaker 1: I was just not gonna make it. You guys were
- 11:03Speaker 1: gonna have to host the show, and I just wasn't
- 11:04Speaker 1: gonna come back the Palm Beach and you I was soft.
- 11:07Speaker 1: I will admit it. I was not built for that.
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- 13:09Speaker 1: morning recapping this lost of Philadelphia Eagles that brings the
- 13:12Speaker 1: Jaguars to five hundred on the season and type of
- 13:15Speaker 1: first place in the a f C South Big Game
- 13:17Speaker 1: the Sunday against the Texans to try to get back
- 13:19Speaker 1: to that division lead. So let's go to some highlights.
- 13:21Speaker 1: Start with the Eagles first offensive drive in a very
- 13:24Speaker 1: early shift of momentum for the Jaguars, had a touchdown
- 13:27Speaker 1: out of empty and he goes playing with Pace Hurts
- 13:31Speaker 1: faking the hand off the cash patty of the air
- 13:33Speaker 1: and it's picked off, intercepted by Cisco. Cisco still going
- 13:38Speaker 1: inside that twenty Cisco is drawing to store pick six
- 13:43Speaker 1: for Jacksonville. Just chaos immediately. That's why they drafted him
- 13:48Speaker 1: in the third round. And if he hadn't been injured,
- 13:50Speaker 1: in Syracuse. He might have been a late first round pick.
- 13:53Speaker 1: He is a takeaway guy. He has great instincts for
- 13:57Speaker 1: the bowl. John. They've been really happy with their safety
- 13:59Speaker 1: play the first couple of weeks. It's not been perfect,
- 14:01Speaker 1: but it's been better than we've seen him a long time.
- 14:03Speaker 1: Been a lot better than uh, maybe I expected because
- 14:06Speaker 1: I wasn't sure what to expect from those two guys.
- 14:08Speaker 1: Um didn't it feel like after this play the Eagles
- 14:13Speaker 1: kind of said, you know, a throwing down field's gonna
- 14:16Speaker 1: be really hard and messy today, Let's not do that.
- 14:19Speaker 1: And I think they had the personnel to not do
- 14:21Speaker 1: that and still be okay. But it felt like after
- 14:23Speaker 1: the first couple of series the Eagles just said, we
- 14:25Speaker 1: have other things that we can do besides this. We're
- 14:28Speaker 1: not going to risk this sort of thing. I think
- 14:29Speaker 1: the deepest shot down in the field was what eighteen yards?
- 14:31Speaker 1: Dav J. Brown? That was it? Right? Right? All right?
- 14:34Speaker 1: Jaguars up seven to zero at this point. In lengthen
- 14:36Speaker 1: their lead with a great drive and it is all
- 14:38Speaker 1: Jaguars at this point. What is Peterson's I look to
- 14:42Speaker 1: you on third before Lauren's gonna sling it near sight.
- 14:46Speaker 1: It's called wide open. Is Jamal at New and it's
- 14:51Speaker 1: a great early play. First things, Lawrence rolls out, rols
- 14:55Speaker 1: gonna run, completes. It's just Dan Arnold the tight end.
- 15:00Speaker 1: My clock running now inside of four minutes left in
- 15:02Speaker 1: the quarter final, horns to the air. It's caught Agnew touchdown,
- 15:08Speaker 1: great drive and Jamal ad knew what a game for him.
- 15:11Speaker 1: It felt just like it did the week before that.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Doug Peterson was totally dialed in. You know how they're
- 15:16Speaker 1: talking hockey about a hot goaltender who stands on his head.
- 15:19Speaker 1: It felt like Doug Peterson had the play calls down,
- 15:21Speaker 1: he had the sheet nailed, and this was going to
- 15:24Speaker 1: be a big opportunity for the Jaguars. And then the
- 15:27Speaker 1: turnover has happened. Well, I think it was there, and
- 15:29Speaker 1: then I think the Eagles sort of figured out a
- 15:31Speaker 1: little bit what they wanted to do with Agnew and
- 15:35Speaker 1: so of slowed that unknown down perhaps a little bit.
- 15:38Speaker 1: So all right, let's go to the third quarter. Jaguars
- 15:41Speaker 1: trail fourteen at this point, driving with a chance to
- 15:43Speaker 1: score and take the lead with an extra point, but
- 15:46Speaker 1: a promising drive comes up empty. The Christie Kirk heer.
- 15:50Speaker 1: We're pretty about a fifty two yard kick from here,
- 15:52Speaker 1: Lawrence feeling the push. Footballer is loose, Who's got it?
- 15:58Speaker 1: And it's Eagles football? All Brown in the slot, Smith
- 16:03Speaker 1: and motion Hurts are four kin gold. He's gonna run
- 16:06Speaker 1: from Hurts, suck All is loose? What's the call here? Now?
- 16:11Speaker 1: They say touchdown? Yeah? And I thought there, Sorry, I
- 16:18Speaker 1: thought the better team. I think figured out right then
- 16:24Speaker 1: that they were okay. Uh, there are a couple of
- 16:27Speaker 1: plays there that really could have turned in Jaguar's favor.
- 16:30Speaker 1: Trevor had missed Agnew on a possible touchdown right before
- 16:35Speaker 1: that fumble. That fumble didn't matter that much to me
- 16:38Speaker 1: because it was four down. You know, you don't want
- 16:41Speaker 1: it because it feels like a momentum change and it
- 16:43Speaker 1: feels big. That team gets fired up. But he didn't
- 16:45Speaker 1: really hurt them that much. But then all of a sudden,
- 16:48Speaker 1: you get the break in the red zone there with
- 16:51Speaker 1: the penalty on Dallas Goddard that took away the A J. Jones,
- 16:55Speaker 1: I mean the A J. Brown touchdown. So now you're
- 16:57Speaker 1: first in twenty first and to force a field goal,
- 17:01Speaker 1: and then I think you were third and about eighteen
- 17:03Speaker 1: was first in goal from the twenties, so right, so
- 17:06Speaker 1: and then your third and I think you were a
- 17:07Speaker 1: third and twenty and then all of a sudden they
- 17:09Speaker 1: get a touchdown. Well, you're not supposed to get a
- 17:11Speaker 1: touchdown there, that's supposed to be fourteen three. With momentum,
- 17:14Speaker 1: that felt like, Okay, they're in a little trouble here
- 17:18Speaker 1: because this team has figured out some things they can
- 17:20Speaker 1: do against the other team. You know what told me
- 17:22Speaker 1: that was how many times they went for it on
- 17:24Speaker 1: fourth down and ran the ball, right, I mean that
- 17:27Speaker 1: forget that one at the very end of the game
- 17:29Speaker 1: where he threw the ball on fourth down. They were
- 17:31Speaker 1: just comfortable with Hurts with the ball in his hand
- 17:33Speaker 1: on fourth down because they trust that offensive. They feel
- 17:36Speaker 1: like that's what they are, and they have they have
- 17:38Speaker 1: the attitude. If we can't win these situations, then we're
- 17:42Speaker 1: not gonna win very much period. So we're gonna go
- 17:45Speaker 1: for it in these situations because it's who we are,
- 17:47Speaker 1: all right. Credit, Let's stay in the third quarter. Jaguars
- 17:49Speaker 1: down fourteen and Brian, you mentioned it in Big Things
- 17:52Speaker 1: about forcing a Christian Kirk. Let's look at that play.
- 17:57Speaker 1: Second it seven you're coming Eagles on the blitz, Lawrence
- 17:59Speaker 1: and pace a pressure and it is pressed James, play
- 18:04Speaker 1: Kerry if you could freeze it right here, I mean,
- 18:08Speaker 1: thirty nine is wide open and you've got two blockers
- 18:12Speaker 1: for two receivers, and that guy scores, no doubt in
- 18:15Speaker 1: my mind. And almost at the snap of the ball,
- 18:17Speaker 1: you could just see how the Eagles were playing defense.
- 18:19Speaker 1: John and Agnew was just standing there and I'm sure
- 18:23Speaker 1: today travel go yep, I should have done that one. Well,
- 18:25Speaker 1: it's just a bad decision. It's such a game of inches,
- 18:28Speaker 1: and that's the cliche for fifty years with his sport.
- 18:30Speaker 1: But um, you had two plays here where if Trevor
- 18:35Speaker 1: has one more second the Agnew play in the first
- 18:38Speaker 1: half that he missed him, he got pressure right at
- 18:41Speaker 1: the throat on this play, got pressure right at the throw. Uh,
- 18:46Speaker 1: even with a decision on this second one we're talking about,
- 18:49Speaker 1: if he hadn't gotten that pressure right at the throw,
- 18:51Speaker 1: maybe steps into the touch more and it's fine. So Uh,
- 18:54Speaker 1: offensive line was fantastic for two weeks against a really
- 18:58Speaker 1: good defensive line. The Eagles got him a couple of
- 19:00Speaker 1: times yesterday. All right, let's go to the fourth quarter,
- 19:02Speaker 1: now down fourteen, But now the Jaguars are hanging on
- 19:06Speaker 1: and making this a game. Make some really hard. Where
- 19:11Speaker 1: does Lawrence go here? Feel the pressure? Throws on dirt down?
- 19:14Speaker 1: Why you don't whin it's Kurt inside the ten greatly,
- 19:22Speaker 1: Lawrence near side, Agnew breaking a tackle and he's in touchdown.
- 19:30Speaker 1: At this point, I'm thinking, all right, I'll come out
- 19:32Speaker 1: of the tunnel because now this is a ball game.
- 19:35Speaker 1: I'll put my rain jacket back on, because now you're
- 19:37Speaker 1: making me stand on this field and pretty much the
- 19:40Speaker 1: throw that he should have made in the first I mean,
- 19:43Speaker 1: and just laid it rag now and let him get
- 19:45Speaker 1: in the end m just curse, right, Yeah, I don't know.
- 19:47Speaker 1: It's the same exact played the same concept, right, uh
- 19:50Speaker 1: living lawn. Well again, if you're looking at this team,
- 19:54Speaker 1: young team, you know, gonna go up, gonna go down
- 19:56Speaker 1: a little bit here and there. It was great to
- 19:57Speaker 1: see them in the fourth quarter fighting to make a
- 19:59Speaker 1: game of even if it felt like the Eagles were
- 20:01Speaker 1: never fully threatened because of their ability to run at
- 20:04Speaker 1: will um. That was a good sign. Another good sign
- 20:07Speaker 1: the defense holds at the two minute worn in keeping
- 20:10Speaker 1: this game a game offense has a chance to make
- 20:12Speaker 1: it a game, but they don't and make it a
- 20:15Speaker 1: two score game. So Trevor Lawrence and company begins just
- 20:18Speaker 1: outside the Tony always loose again and the Eagles have recovered. Yeah,
- 20:27Speaker 1: football is loose again. Is all you need to know
- 20:28Speaker 1: from that player. It's I don't think he'll do it again.
- 20:32Speaker 1: I would guess the next time he plays in the
- 20:34Speaker 1: rain and these conditions, which maybe a long long time,
- 20:37Speaker 1: he's more aware of it. Uh As I wrote many
- 20:40Speaker 1: times this morning, this game doesn't make him a bad player.
- 20:44Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even think anybody when he's regressed.
- 20:47Speaker 1: I think he had a bad day in bad situations yesterday.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Uh again. So much of what made this game difficult
- 20:54Speaker 1: to analyze is for years around here we've looked at, well,
- 20:58Speaker 1: does this mean they're bad? Does this mean they're an
- 21:00Speaker 1: awful team? And a lot of times it did. This
- 21:02Speaker 1: game was a loss because it's some bad circumstances. It
- 21:06Speaker 1: was against a good team with a good matchup. I
- 21:08Speaker 1: think they're fine going forward within the context of what
- 21:10Speaker 1: we're talking about for them with a long term You
- 21:12Speaker 1: were at the Edward Jones Dome in October when Mark
- 21:16Speaker 1: Burnell through five interceptions, and at that well, at that
- 21:20Speaker 1: moment in time, we knew Brunell was going to be
- 21:23Speaker 1: this quarterback at the franchise quarterback and he went on
- 21:27Speaker 1: to lead the league in passing yards that year and
- 21:29Speaker 1: lead his team to the a f C champions She
- 21:32Speaker 1: was awful that but he was awful that day, and
- 21:34Speaker 1: you're like, oh boy, I mean, what's it gonna take
- 21:36Speaker 1: to clear this up? Just more time? And then all
- 21:39Speaker 1: of a sudden everything popped and the relationship with Jimmy
- 21:42Speaker 1: and Keenan came on, James Stewart and Natron means that
- 21:45Speaker 1: was development. This team is in a development stage. This
- 21:48Speaker 1: is one of those days. It sucks to talk about today,
- 21:51Speaker 1: but this is one of those days that if they
- 21:52Speaker 1: go somewhere this year, John, you can point back and go, man,
- 21:54Speaker 1: they learned something there. One more thing on that Brunell's
- 21:57Speaker 1: was five picks five interceptions. If Trevor's day yesterday had
- 22:03Speaker 1: been five interceptions where it looked like he didn't know
- 22:06Speaker 1: where he was going with the ball or he looked lost,
- 22:09Speaker 1: then I might buy into, okay, we're a little worried here.
- 22:12Speaker 1: It was one interception that I think he he had
- 22:15Speaker 1: a bad read. It was a young kid read. But
- 22:18Speaker 1: I didn't feel like he was lost out there. I
- 22:20Speaker 1: felt like there was a football that he didn't know
- 22:23Speaker 1: how to hold, which is a difference in terms of
- 22:25Speaker 1: his long term development. Yeah, and the conditions it was.
- 22:27Speaker 1: Coach Pearson was talking about it after the game, and
- 22:29Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, how do you prepare your team for this?
- 22:31Speaker 1: He's like, well, we gotta plane it more? All right?
- 22:33Speaker 1: Well does it snow and rain? Is it colden Jacksel? No, alright,
- 22:36Speaker 1: so when we play in these games, we're gonna have
- 22:38Speaker 1: to better prepare because we don't have the experience like
- 22:40Speaker 1: the Eagles do in this weather. It's how do you
- 22:43Speaker 1: prepare for something like this? You can't. It sounds like
- 22:46Speaker 1: it was struggled as much as Trevor yesterday something. Right now.
- 22:53Speaker 1: I can't stop talking about it. It was that awful.
- 22:56Speaker 1: It was worse than Tennessee New Year's Day. It was
- 23:00Speaker 1: Whe's the nut because at least you're prepared for those
- 23:02Speaker 1: cold games because you know going into it. I don't
- 23:04Speaker 1: think any of us are buying your excuses. I'm telling you,
- 23:07Speaker 1: if my tennis shoes were not ready for what I
- 23:09Speaker 1: endured it was that bad. That's it. It's all I
- 23:13Speaker 1: gotta say. It was a brownie for dessert. It was fantastic.
- 23:16Speaker 1: That was a good brownie. It made it all worth
- 23:18Speaker 1: it not really all right, And that is highlights from
- 23:20Speaker 1: yesterday's loss to the Eagles. When we come back on
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- 25:14Speaker 1: We're back Jaguars Drive time on a Monday. Time for
- 25:16Speaker 1: some hot take as we get ready for a home
- 25:18Speaker 1: game against the Texans on Sunday. Brian, it's a huge
- 25:22Speaker 1: game on Sunday, and not because it's a must win
- 25:25Speaker 1: or anything like that, but do you realize the last
- 25:27Speaker 1: time the Jaguars beat the Texans was I've lost eight
- 25:33Speaker 1: consecutive games to the Texans and including to last year
- 25:37Speaker 1: when the Texans were in turmoil. The Jaguars have to
- 25:42Speaker 1: beat the Texans in order to go where they want
- 25:45Speaker 1: to go, which is to win the division title, which
- 25:47Speaker 1: is the surest way to the playoffs. I know I
- 25:51Speaker 1: shouldn't be talking playoffs after yesterday, but this Texans thing
- 25:54Speaker 1: is in their head in some respect. Maybe it's not
- 25:58Speaker 1: because you have so many new guys here, but the
- 26:00Speaker 1: Texans head has been, well, we beat the Jaguars. You
- 26:02Speaker 1: have to turn that around. That has to turn around
- 26:04Speaker 1: this week. And if the Jaguars beat the Texans, and
- 26:07Speaker 1: they should beat the Texans, there are better team than
- 26:09Speaker 1: the Texans are. They should beat the Texans on Sunday
- 26:12Speaker 1: and put themselves in a position to go to Indy
- 26:14Speaker 1: the next week with really what could be a knockout
- 26:16Speaker 1: blow to the Colts hopes of winning the a f
- 26:18Speaker 1: C South. And they were the preseason favorite. So this
- 26:21Speaker 1: is a huge game on Sunday for this football team.
- 26:23Speaker 1: It gets them back on track. It's in the division,
- 26:26Speaker 1: and it's against a team that's had their number. Well.
- 26:29Speaker 1: It's a huge couple of weeks in that sense because
- 26:33Speaker 1: the division games are key. Um, this will be the
- 26:37Speaker 1: first time they're playing in a situation I spent to
- 26:41Speaker 1: be favored. I'm actual they've been favored yet this year. Um,
- 26:44Speaker 1: so it will be their first experience as sort of
- 26:48Speaker 1: an established team that's taking a couple of runs up.
- 26:53Speaker 1: What would be the first time you say they should
- 26:54Speaker 1: win that game? Right? So how do you handle that
- 26:57Speaker 1: in in an important situation even if they weren't favored.
- 27:01Speaker 1: If you think you're a playoff team, or if you
- 27:04Speaker 1: think you're a good team, you win division games at home.
- 27:07Speaker 1: So to establish that, I think it's very important. And
- 27:10Speaker 1: I could hear Cam Robinson's postgame speech from outside the
- 27:13Speaker 1: locker room door. We were standing in the hallway and
- 27:15Speaker 1: they're already mentioning the Texans, and it's very clear this
- 27:18Speaker 1: is a very motivated team going against this text. There
- 27:21Speaker 1: aren't many people on this roster that have ever beaten
- 27:23Speaker 1: the Texans. Cam is one out here in December. That
- 27:27Speaker 1: was the last meaningful time they never beat Deshaun Watson
- 27:29Speaker 1: when he was the quarterback. From you and not to mention,
- 27:31Speaker 1: then you'll go to Indie with healthy receivers, most likely
- 27:34Speaker 1: in Pittman back. It's going to be a huge game
- 27:36Speaker 1: and Indie's gonna be highly motivated if they believe in
- 27:38Speaker 1: themselves like they say they believe in themselves. This game
- 27:41Speaker 1: is a must win, and he'd be four and two three,
- 27:43Speaker 1: And I mean, you can establish yourself and show you
- 27:48Speaker 1: are what you think you are by winning these next
- 27:50Speaker 1: to you? All right, John, what do you got? I
- 27:52Speaker 1: gotta read mind because I can't remember what. Okay, it's
- 27:55Speaker 1: a long time ago. Okay, Okay, no surprise, no panic,
- 27:59Speaker 1: but no repeat. I'm not overly surprised they lost that game.
- 28:02Speaker 1: I didn't think they were gonna win. Uh. And that
- 28:05Speaker 1: was a little bit me the pessimist, but also a
- 28:07Speaker 1: little bit me thinking that the Eagles were are are
- 28:10Speaker 1: a good team that knows exactly what they are, so
- 28:13Speaker 1: I thought it would be tough. That was realistic of you,
- 28:15Speaker 1: not pessimistic than in retrospect. I was right, um, And
- 28:23Speaker 1: no panic. I didn't feel panic in the locker room.
- 28:26Speaker 1: I don't think Doug Peterson will panic over this, because
- 28:28Speaker 1: again I think Doug knows the league well enough to
- 28:31Speaker 1: know this was a tough spot against a team. We
- 28:35Speaker 1: talked about it a little bit during the last break,
- 28:37Speaker 1: Brian A mature team that really knows what they are
- 28:42Speaker 1: and they were able to play to their strengths yesterday.
- 28:44Speaker 1: The Jaguar. You know, I think it's seven or eight
- 28:46Speaker 1: guys who played for Peterson Super Bowl team. Well, this
- 28:50Speaker 1: team's got I think two guys left from that season,
- 28:52Speaker 1: the Jaguar. So they have a core up there that
- 28:54Speaker 1: that knows what they're doing. So you don't panic, but
- 28:58Speaker 1: you also can't repeat that. You can't go up against
- 29:02Speaker 1: a team that runs RPO next time and get dashed
- 29:05Speaker 1: the way they did, and you can't have the giveaway
- 29:08Speaker 1: plays that Trevor, mate. That has to change for this team.
- 29:12Speaker 1: It's okay to experience that once you went up against
- 29:17Speaker 1: a team that you probably were the poorer matchup with
- 29:21Speaker 1: and didn't handle it that well. But the next time
- 29:24Speaker 1: you go do that, there needs to be progress and
- 29:27Speaker 1: you need to start going and winning those games if
- 29:29Speaker 1: you're going where you think you're going. Okay yesterday, not
- 29:33Speaker 1: okay going forward. Yeah, And like John said, I think
- 29:36Speaker 1: we all expected that the Jaguars might not win this
- 29:38Speaker 1: game against the Eagles and undefeated team that is hot
- 29:40Speaker 1: in the NFL as a whole right now, And I
- 29:43Speaker 1: think my hot take leads to this the Jaguars weren't
- 29:45Speaker 1: ready for what hit them on Sunday. We expected the
- 29:47Speaker 1: Jaguars to loose, frankly against the Eagles, But I didn't
- 29:50Speaker 1: expect the day that the Jaguars had yesterday. I didn't
- 29:53Speaker 1: expect Trevor Lawrence to fumble the ball four times. And
- 29:55Speaker 1: I think when I go back to big things, and
- 29:57Speaker 1: I just said, I felt like the Eagles had all
- 29:59Speaker 1: the momentum the entire game is because I think we
- 30:01Speaker 1: all could just tell it wasn't Trevor's day. And when
- 30:04Speaker 1: it's not Trevor's day, I don't expect Trevor to build
- 30:08Speaker 1: himself out of it quite yet. When he's not having
- 30:10Speaker 1: a day, he's not having a day. When he's having
- 30:11Speaker 1: a day, he's having a day. No one can stop him.
- 30:14Speaker 1: So I'm trying to think of the right way to
- 30:15Speaker 1: say this so it doesn't come off, you know, like
- 30:18Speaker 1: an excuse. But the Jaguars, they had some distractions last week. Um,
- 30:23Speaker 1: they came back from the West Coast, they had the
- 30:25Speaker 1: hurricane and had all the changes that and then they
- 30:27Speaker 1: go and they have to endure the weather. They didn't
- 30:29Speaker 1: handle it very well, right they you say they weren't ready. Okay,
- 30:32Speaker 1: that means to me that they didn't handle all of
- 30:35Speaker 1: the changes, you know, staying in a hotel downtown and
- 30:38Speaker 1: all of the things that they did to try to
- 30:40Speaker 1: get around it. They're young team. Sometimes young teams don't
- 30:43Speaker 1: handle things well. You were talking about eight or nine
- 30:45Speaker 1: guys from the Eagles that were there on the Super
- 30:48Speaker 1: Bowl team. Only Dwan Smoot and Cam Robinson are here
- 30:52Speaker 1: from that seventeen team that played in the a f
- 30:53Speaker 1: C Championship game. Don't forget the ship man, I forgot shot. Sorry,
- 30:57Speaker 1: um you're talking about And two of the guys are
- 31:00Speaker 1: reserve players, even one front line guy. So they just
- 31:05Speaker 1: I don't mean it to be an excuse, And I
- 31:06Speaker 1: might be wrong on this, but my assumption is that
- 31:09Speaker 1: Sunday was was a culmination of a week that they
- 31:12Speaker 1: just didn't handle everything as well as they could have. Yeah,
- 31:14Speaker 1: they just they just frankly did not look ready. You
- 31:16Speaker 1: had guys running into the locker room at halftime trying
- 31:18Speaker 1: to get thermals, trying to get ready for these conditions,
- 31:21Speaker 1: and at that point it's too late. Yes, we knew
- 31:23Speaker 1: it was gonna rainy, We knew it was going to
- 31:24Speaker 1: be cold. We knew this is a very tough Eagles team.
- 31:26Speaker 1: I don't think anyone expected to be like it was.
- 31:28Speaker 1: Now the question is the next time that they faced
- 31:30Speaker 1: these sorts of things, how do they handle it? And
- 31:32Speaker 1: I would think, just based on Doug Peterson's history, they
- 31:35Speaker 1: won't handle it like this. They'll handle it different and
- 31:37Speaker 1: I don't think it should be forgotten. And even with
- 31:40Speaker 1: all that, you had a chance to take the lead
- 31:43Speaker 1: late in the fourth quarter, I like the third quarter,
- 31:45Speaker 1: and you got run on to that degree. And it's
- 31:49Speaker 1: still basically turned on two sack fumbles late they probably
- 31:53Speaker 1: shouldn't have happened. So this is a very well coached team. Yeah,
- 31:56Speaker 1: I think there's light, it's just hard to see in
- 31:59Speaker 1: this day of darkness. Now let's go to break with
- 32:03Speaker 1: that and that is hot Takes when we come back.
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- 34:04Speaker 1: Time on a Monday, a busy week getting ready for
- 34:06Speaker 1: a home game against the Texans on Sunday, but a
- 34:08Speaker 1: very busy week for all of us on Jaguars Productions
- 34:11Speaker 1: And Tony Basselli his Hall of Fame game, And Brian,
- 34:13Speaker 1: I know you've had a big part in this. Well,
- 34:15Speaker 1: I've had a part in it and I'm ready to
- 34:17Speaker 1: give it back. Um. I love Tony, uh and and
- 34:19Speaker 1: the Besselles are important to a lot of us around here.
- 34:22Speaker 1: On Saturday, there will be a debut of uh Private
- 34:29Speaker 1: Invite h but an eventually will be something everyone will
- 34:32Speaker 1: see of a documentary called seventy one that a lot
- 34:34Speaker 1: of people in this broadcast department have had a hand in.
- 34:37Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Um. And then the alumni weekend, the Legends
- 34:41Speaker 1: weekend is this weekend and I think they have the
- 34:44Speaker 1: most legends signed up to come back for events Friday, Saturday,
- 34:49Speaker 1: and then of course Sunday with the Hall of Fame,
- 34:52Speaker 1: the bust will be here, He'll get his ring, will
- 34:55Speaker 1: celebrate it, you know with the home fans. Uh. It'll
- 34:58Speaker 1: be an insanely busy week. But it's uh, you know
- 35:02Speaker 1: for those of us who have been around Tony, Um,
- 35:05Speaker 1: I'm glad to share it with him, Glad to be
- 35:06Speaker 1: a part of it. Yeah, I mean it's it's uh,
- 35:09Speaker 1: it's deserved. It felt like a lot of people, uh
- 35:12Speaker 1: had small hands in this uphill fight for Tony to
- 35:15Speaker 1: get in it. Couldn't be happy that he's an I'm
- 35:18Speaker 1: looking forward to the week. Yes, and Tony will be
- 35:20Speaker 1: recognized at halftime here Sunday against the Texans. So tickets
- 35:23Speaker 1: are available on Jaguars dot com. And that is our show,
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