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Do pro archers hate influencers | Redding shoot recap (ft. Leann Drake and Bella Otter) · The Bow Disciples Podcast

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  I don't hope you do, but it would it would.
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  Be the best thing I've ever seen if.
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  And it would most certainly turn into a short, yeah.
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  This is a unique a unique beverage I'm spilling
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  everywhere. BlackBerry.
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  It's a BlackBerry. It's a BlackBerry, like a light
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  beer, but it's OK. I would.
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  It wouldn't be my first choice, but they're out of all the
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  others. It is sort of hazy, but it's
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  pretty good actually. Well, I don't know.
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  I think the cup is broken. I show you it is.
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  I got to be on a pace here. Yeah, guys, we have a broken cup
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  on on deck right now. And let me just make sure real
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  quick. Yeah, we're good.
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  We are good. We are good.
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  So we're here with Miss Brianna Curly, camera girl
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  extraordinaire this weekend, video gal.
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  And then we have Leanne Drake, Bella Otter, which by the way,
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  both very cool names, I gotta say, very avant-garde, kind of
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  creative, fun names. So we actually ended up none of
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  us had met or probably even hardly knew each other too much.
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  I know we met a little bit in Vegas, but we all got paired up.
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  It was us 3-4, Shishu, Texas, Kayla, Katie and then the
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  Italian boys and then several others and I think we just had a
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  fun group. We had a great bunch.
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  It was so. Fun.
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  Amazing bunch. Yeah, how?
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  How many times have each of you done reading before?
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  Gosh, I want to say this is my 7th year.
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  I think. I know, I know.
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  It feels crazy. It has been that many.
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  It feels crazy. That's a lot.
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  Yeah, so this is only my second year shooting it.
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  So I also learned you are and 19.
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  And I just turned 2020. Nice.
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  Happy birthday, my goodness. Great.
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  That's good. Very exciting.
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  I'm super excited right now. All right, here's.
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  Heard that about 1075 times this weekend.
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  And it's an exciting weekend. I have to add he did not live up
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  to it yesterday and I was pretty irritated about it.
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  But he brought brought the energy back today for sure.
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  For sure. It was bad for force.
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  Yes, school camp counselor mode. Oh, come on.
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  Call. Yes, we even sat down at a desk
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  for scoring, you know, had people come up single file.
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  It was great. Brianna was actually a teacher
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  and at one point, so she should have been doing that.
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  But let, let, let. I'm gonna do something.
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  We're all going to give a one to 10 rating on our overall morale
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  throughout the weekend. We'll start with Brianna and
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  we'll we'll go around the horn. Now I think I mean my more, I
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  didn't plan my phone too much until today and then I then I
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  started, you know, playing my matching game a little bit and
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  overall my energy was quite good.
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  At points I was like a little ninja disappearing to get stuff
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  done. So I would say that my morale,
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  I'm going to combine it to slash energy level because usually
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  that's what I lose first. Was like a solid 9.2 for me this
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  weekend. Wow.
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  Yeah, yeah. That is a monster score.
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  That's a huge score. I'm a go, I've never shot
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  reading before so I can't really compare it to a past reading.
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  I have shot a lot of 3DS and I would say our group honestly was
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  just about as fun as like a recreational shoot I've been to.
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  Individual overall morale or is this a no no?
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  Group morale? Oh, I misunderstood the
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  question. Teacher, camp, counselor, group
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  morale. I'm still going to keep it high.
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  Like probably a 84. I feel like nobody like really
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  fell off the rails. No, there's definitely no fits.
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  No tantrums, no crying, no anger, no bows being thrown.
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  I've seen worse honestly morale experiences that attack in some
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  of our groups. For real 100%.
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  Yeah, where I'd go way lower and we'd entered the three market
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  for me, but no. So I'm going to go like 84A.
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  Solid score. Yeah, I would say probably about
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  the same. I would say it was like a good
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  86 out of out of 10. I think that coming into
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  something like reading, all I kept hearing was how long it
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  takes, right? And we did not experience that
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  once every day we were done. I think both of the first two
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  days we were done at about 1:00. Today I think was like 12,
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  right? So I mean, no waiting like she
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  said, no one was a sour puss. Everyone was cool and nice and
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  everyone with our group honestly was pounding across the board.
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  I think like we had so many 20 twos you were talking about like
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  the game your dad or your dad plays, and we'll talk about that
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  after. But like we would have had we
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  only had one time, someone would have.
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  Won but a big pot of money that's been two days build up.
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  Like. That would be wild, absolutely.
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  So what's your rating? You've shot seven of these bad
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  boys. I've shot.
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  So you have a lot to compare it to.
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  Yes, and you know what I've shot it's because my first couple of
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  years here it was with the just the group for my local shop
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  surgical archery in Saint Luis Bispo.
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  And I love, I mean that they're like family to me, right And so
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  that was always fun. I think especially like as a
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  youngster coming in and whatnot, I was just stoked to be shooting
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  with the with the big guys, you know, but then also the last
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  couple years being on pro bales. Don't get me wrong, I love when
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  the energy is focused and when it's locked in.
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  I think that a lot of times we can kind of feed off each others
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  energy that way. But I also one thing I really
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  appreciated this year is I feel like kind of like James, you
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  were saying we really had, I don't know that any of us really
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  knew each other all that much going into it.
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  It was kind of a bunch of people that they kind of just plopped
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  together on one veil. But from the get go, the energy
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  was immediately super encouraging.
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  We're all giving each other high fives.
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  We're all calling for each other.
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  And there was the we started, you know, over the course of the
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  weekend stuff like pro move, we started having these bits and
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  these little inside jokes and whatnot.
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  I feel like everybody when you were able to kind of have that
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  cohesiveness, the that kept her all high.
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  And so I would. Say.
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  Silence. Yeah.
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  No awkward silence. It was all just.
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  It was all, you know, fun, playful, but also very focused,
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  very intentional shooting. And so I'm, I'm going to rate it
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  at a nine point, a 9.3, I'm going to go high. 93.
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  I'm going to go 9. Huge scores.
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  I love it. Optimist by nature, so I'm going
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  to air on the side of of morale high.
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  As am I. I think we're similar in that
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  way and I do appreciate that. That is a good trade, I think.
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  Likewise, I think we have this. Discussion and I said I I think
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  I'm a I'm a Leanne and you're a Bella.
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  Yes, yeah, I think it's more of like the more dry more say it
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  like it is more, you know, just is what it is kind of you know,
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  right, right. Even, you know, I saw a little
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  bit of James and Leanne. Today she was fired.
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  Up today. He was fired.
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  Up someone slipped her a caffeine pill and she doesn't
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  know it. Yes, she was on the gas today.
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  I look, I come up to like target something and I'm like, how is
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  she there? Like 20 minutes early?
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  Usually that's me. Usually everyone showing up and
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  I've already shot twice. She was early, but all right,
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  what's give me your your rating. You have one year to compare it
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  to. Yeah, So I think last year, and
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  nothing against anybody, but I think that last year we had an
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  All Pro bail and it was, there was so much tension and I just
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  felt like it wasn't a reading experience.
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  I wanted to come here and I wanted to have fun.
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  I'd never experienced anything like this and I wanted to have
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  so much fun. And I don't think last year
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  really delivered that to me. So I'm so glad that I got put
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  into this group that I didn't know and I feel.
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  Like it'd be fun, but. Yeah, and so I feel like the
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  energy was super high and I feel like we all worked good
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  together. If somebody was like needing an
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  aero call or something, then somebody was always there.
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  So I'm going to go high too. I think I'm going to go in 9.2.
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  9.2 pro score pro score yeah you know I.
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  Made me switch mine and I feel like I had to and I went the
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  lowest score of the group. Yeah, I want to say too.
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  Like even though I have not shot a lot of like national stuff
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  like y'all have, I've competed a long time at like, you know,
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  local stuff. And, and I think that we did a
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  really good job on online calls and not getting contentious
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  about it. It was like we all looked at it
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  and we all every single time it was like we all had one that we
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  wish we would have got. But I think in our heart we knew
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  every time it was like it is out, you know, or it is in like
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  we didn't have any crazy disagreements or disputes.
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  And that can happen a lot of times, especially when you're,
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  you know, at A, at a pro level, like like y'all.
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  And I'm just proud of that as a group that we had no, nothing
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  that stuck like crazy. We don't have to like call a
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  judge over or get crazy like, you know, and we all shot like
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  the Italian dudes are so good and you guys were so good.
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  And I, I felt like I was really good, like we had a lot of good
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  shooters. And I think that makes it more
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  fun too when you're kind of pounding, you know?
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  But what is your? You said you've done 7, you've
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  done 1. What's your all time record
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  score wise? Did you get it this weekend or
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  was it a past weekend? That is a great question.
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  I this weekend I ended up with a 1515.
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  You got me by 1 and by 1, by 1 by.
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  One, yes, I and I remember, I think right when I started
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  shooting, my goal is always for sure to break 15 this year and
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  ideally next year, I'd really like to hit that 1520 mark.
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  And so we'll, we'll see where you can push before it's one of
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  those things were like, the thing with this course is people
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  talk all the time about how, Oh my gosh, it's such a cleanable
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  course. It's such a cleanable course and
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  whatnot. And I think a lot of times,
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  especially when coming from tournaments where you know, it
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  is a game of millimeters. Not to say that isn't the case
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  here, because of course you definitely want to be going for
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  the center, center, center of those dots and not letting
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  yourself get kind of lost in bigger orange.
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  But there is a degree of truth to the idea of if you are on the
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  money and you know that you have the ability to consistently keep
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  your phone in the gas through all three days.
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  I think it is one of those courses that, you know, with
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  every shot, with every point dropped, there is this little
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  bit of a sense of like, man, I know I can have that.
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  I know I can have that. I know I can have for sure.
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  We definitely. And so I think with this
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  tournament, always when you're ending it, there's a sense of
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  satisfaction, a sense of feeling really good about it.
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  And there's this extra little fire in there that's like, OK,
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  And I know that we can get that much better, which for me, I
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  think is really fun for a tournament to end that way
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  because it keeps the motivation there.
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  It keeps the, you know, it keeps us in the strive for all that
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  jazz. I agree.
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  So you said 1515 was your highest?
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  That's the highest soup shot. I might have hit 1517 at some
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  point. I know that I've kind of been
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  within that 1515 to 20 range somewhere in there.
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  OK. Yeah, All right.
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  What about you? Yeah.
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  So I don't really know what I shot this year, 1515. 22 I
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  think. 1522 Crush. 1532 I think so.
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  Yeah, I definitely shot better than last year.
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  Last year that was a roller coaster only because I had never
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  shot anything like this. I'm so used to flat ground that
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  this got killed me. But regardless, I came much more
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  prepared this year and I felt a lot better about up hills and
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  downhills and just being able to relax and have a little bit more
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  fun than last year. So yeah, I this is my, this is
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  my set number. Now that's.
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  Great. And I think, you know, part of
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  the reason last year you might have been struggling too is I
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  think that group morale can make a big difference.
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  And like you said, not that you had like a beef with the group,
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  but just that it was more tense, more serious.
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  And for me, that was something in Vegas that, you know, I had
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  never shot an indoor anything ever.
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  So not a league, nothing, just six weeks of practice right into
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  it. And what I really tried to do
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  was when I felt the tension hit the first day, which I, it was a
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  lot 10X what I thought it would be.
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  I think that what I kept trying to do was just keep the vibe hot
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  with everybody around us because I'm like, if we all stop and
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  like we're just like too clammed up and everyone's like too in
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  their head and tents, I think that's not good for your
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  performance. Like I think you're so much
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  better to be looser if you miss 1 is what it is.
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  Like we talked about today many times, the last one doesn't
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  matter, the next one doesn't matter, just the one you're on
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  right now. And I think that when you're
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  having fun and the the energy is high, I think it makes it a lot
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  easier to have that mentality. Then if like it's a total quiet
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  dead feel and you miss one, it's much harder to go.
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  Yeah, leave it in the past. And I really think that having
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  that extra like motivation, like as a teammate or as a group of
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  like people being able to be like, brush that off, you know
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  what I mean? Instead of you just like
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  thinking about it like that, that should have been in or that
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  could have been in or I could have done this where it's just
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  like you're focused on other things going on or like
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  somebody's like, hey, that was a good shot.
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  You know, I feel like that makes a big difference too.
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  I think it's special when you find a group of people that is
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  able to kind of collect, almost hold this silent agreement that
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  that just is the way the weekend's going to go.
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  I think it's similar to the mentality of like a rise and
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  tide lifts all boats. I love it.
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  You know, like when you have when you have everybody
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  together, kind of just deciding that we are going to keep this
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  fun because we're here for the same reasons.
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  It's to enjoy ourselves. It's also to shoot well.
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  But we're here to, you know, make the have the best, most fun
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  that we can. And so I think when people are
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  really in agreement of that and in agreement of encouraging each
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  other and encouraging each other to maintain that same mindset, I
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  think you find so much more flow with the people around you and
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  flow with your own process and your own mindspace.
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  It's that much easier to reach into those or to create those
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  positive flips when you need them when you have the people
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  around you that are reflecting the energy back at you.
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  A. 100%, I mean, if you just hear the scores that the three
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  of us just said, I mean personal best, maybe a personal best or
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  very close, Obviously for me, a personal best.
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  But then like other people in the group too had their personal
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  best. So everyone was better than they
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  had been. And I think a lot of that is
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  because of the morale. I really believe that.
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  So I felt like our group, I mean how you know, it's a good group
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  is that almost all of us were like we should run it back next
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  year and just do the same group and do it again.
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  Like we found something that we all like, all want to be a part
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  of and that's dope. Like I'm, I'm really blessed
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  that we got to do it. But I'm curious y'all, you know,
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  you guys have a little bit of a different journey with archery
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  than I do. I've been shooting my whole
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  life, since I was 3 and I've been a bow hunter my whole life.
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  And then in 2018 we started doing, you know, the Boat
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  Disciples channel and the content and no one, I mean, I
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  was just making videos for fun essentially till like 2022-2023.
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  It really blew up and changed our lives, you know, but you
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  guys are kind of different because you are competitors, you
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  know, first and foremost professional shooters.
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  So what was your journey getting into archery?
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  Did you both start when you were little girls?
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  Did you start later on? And then you know, what do you
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  guys, how do you guys view people that do content versus
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  like our full blown competitors? Take it away, chica.
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  OK, so you. Know it's a tough one when they
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  both stall out. So I started shooting just I not
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  competition. I just started shooting with my
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  dad whenever I was about 3, and then I went to my first
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  competition whenever I was around the age of 9 or 10
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  actually in Cincinnati, OH. And then I hit like this huge
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  lull. I was shooting right-handed and
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  then I switched to left-handed in 2019.
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  Was that AI dominance thing it? Was yeah.
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  So I would shoot really, really good at home under no pressure,
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  and then whenever I got under pressure then my left eye would
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  try to take over and then it just went straight downhill.
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  And so then I went professional 3 years ago and I've loved it
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  ever since. I love the atmosphere of it and
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  for the content stuff, you know, a lot of companies love for us
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  shooters to post content. And I think this can be so
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  controversial because I'm not one that likes everybody to know
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  what I'm doing at every point in time in my life.
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  I like to succeed and put in the work to do it and not let
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  everybody know the little secrets.
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  And that is totally controversial.
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  But As for you, I think that it brings us, it gives us like a
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  sense of like somebody else cares about what we're doing.
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  Like for you guys to ask me and Bella to do this, it meant a lot
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  to me. Like, you know, I wouldn't sit
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  here and talk to a camera if I didn't have to.
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  So I think that that. I love, I love Lia.
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  I really love her, I do. So I feel like having that sense
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  is very important. Where it's an option for us to
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  do it and not just to we have we have another way to get our name
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  out there other than just shooting.
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  Not everybody cares about scores.
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  They don't know what it all means.
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  So I think it's very important that you guys are here and did
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  you enjoy shooting and have fun doing it and are able to feed
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  everybody content too. Yeah, Hell yeah.
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  What do you think? Well.
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  Also very good. I mean, I was so thorough.
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  That was so thorough and solid. And I mean, so many of those
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  points are good in any sport, right?
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  Any sport, you're going to have people that are the top best
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  people, doesn't matter if it's baseball or golf, like you have
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  guys that are or girls that are going to be the best that love
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  to put stuff out too. And then you have ones that
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  that's just not their thing. They want to just lock in and do
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  their competing and keep it moving.
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  Both are fine, you know, So I don't think there's anything
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  wrong with you not wanting to do content.
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  I think that's great, you know, and then you have people like
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  Page that she's able to, especially later in her career,
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  do both things really well. And I think maybe, you know,
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  when you're a little, you could get to the point where you're
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  like, I want to do a little more of both.
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  But I don't think there's anything wrong with either
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  option. And I think that's what's
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  important is to always remember that, you know, either way is
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  good. There's multiple ways to skin a
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  cat. You know, it's not like the
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  people who don't post should hate the people who do, and the
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  people who do should like not like the people that don't like.
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  That's goofy to me. It's like we should all just
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  rising Tide raises all ships, you know?
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  But take it away, Bella, what do you?
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  Got boy. Well, OK, first, OK, the first
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  part A of that question, I started shooting.
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  The very first time I ever shot, I was in Girl Scouts.
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  I was nine years old and I told this story before, but I
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  remember being the very first one of my troops to pop the
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  balloons that we were shooting at.
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  And my 9 year old ego was I was into it.
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  I was hooked at that point. And so shortly after that, I
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  started asking my parents for a boat for Christmas and my dad
• 19:59
  ordered one off of Amazon. He had had no archery experience
• 20:03
  at all. It was something that, you know,
• 20:04
  nobody in our family had been introduced to a doll.
• 20:07
  And so he ordered one off of Amazon.
• 20:08
  And sure enough, I showed up under the tree when I was 10.
• 20:11
  And from then on out, about a year later, we found Social
• 20:14
  Coast Archery, which is the local shop that I have been
• 20:17
  shooting at since the beginning. And so I started taking Jo Ed
• 20:20
  classes there. And now I'm getting to teach the
• 20:22
  same Jo Ed classes that I was taking as a kid, which is a fun
• 20:25
  little full circle moment. And so after I started taking
• 20:29
  classes there, it was those guys that really kind of gave me this
• 20:31
  foundation. So I actually was getting
• 20:33
  instruction from people that really kind of knew what they
• 20:35
  were doing and had a lot of experience behind them.
• 20:38
  And it was those guys that started encouraging me, hey,
• 20:40
  there is a competitive aspect to this.
• 20:42
  If it is something that you would want to, you know, see if
• 20:45
  it's up your alley a little bit. And so I started out with just
• 20:48
  regional shoots turned into state shoots, turned into
• 20:51
  national tournaments, turned into eventually some
• 20:53
  international opportunities, which is amazing.
• 20:54
  Which by the way, I have to shout out Leanne too.
• 20:56
  And the home girl has repped Team USA all over the place.
• 20:59
  And I don't feel like she gave herself enough credit for just
• 21:01
  the level of the caliber of tournaments that she's been able
• 21:04
  to attend and crush. And so anyway, both her and I
• 21:08
  have been able to to do this national tour for quite a few
• 21:12
  years now and whatnot. And I've had some international
• 21:14
  experiences have just been super rad.
• 21:15
  And so for me, that was kind of the the way that it all
• 21:19
  progressed. And I think I've been shooting
• 21:20
  pro for the last four years or so, give or take.
• 21:24
  Veteran. By now, sometimes it feels like
• 21:27
  it and sometimes it feels, I mean, as we all know, there's a
• 21:29
  million things you never stop learning in this sport.
• 21:31
  And so yes. But I think that the more that
• 21:33
  I'm around the other pro women and just pros in general and
• 21:36
  whatnot, that's it's it's being exposed to them that allow me to
• 21:41
  continue growing myself as a pro.
• 21:43
  Of course. Yeah.
• 21:45
  When it comes to the content side of things, I think also
• 21:48
  like Leanne said, yes, there is a degree of, you know, I don't
• 21:53
  know whether it's called responsibility, if that's the
• 21:55
  right word or not. But I think there is this sense
• 21:58
  of, you know, as a pro, we do have a certain platform to
• 22:03
  promote these, whether it's certain companies or whether
• 22:06
  it's certain supporters that have supported us and our
• 22:07
  ability to get where we are. And so I think that in a way, I
• 22:10
  feel a sense of responsibility to be able to kind of use the
• 22:17
  platform sounds dramatic in a way, but like to to use
• 22:20
  opportunity in a way they. Yeah, to use that opportunity to
• 22:24
  reflect some of that shine on to the people that have allowed me
• 22:28
  to get to where I am now and have allowed me to shoot the
• 22:30
  equipment that I'm shooting where I'm now.
• 22:31
  I also like making content that is a reflection of things that I
• 22:36
  like to support or I think deserve that spotlight.
• 22:39
  So for me, I shoot for Break the barriers and I have been a part
• 22:44
  of that organization for a couple years now, but especially
• 22:46
  in the last year, I've become a lot more involved with them.
• 22:48
  And so any chance I get to talk about the break barriers
• 22:50
  mission, what they do, the bTB 3D national championship and all
• 22:55
  those things, I like using it as a way to spotlight others that
• 22:59
  have either supported me or maybe necessarily haven't
• 23:03
  supported me. But I think that people should
• 23:04
  go support them. And so that's why that's my
• 23:08
  that's my goal with content. But with that being said, it's
• 23:11
  not my first natural instinct either.
• 23:14
  And so I think that it's cool to be in a group like this where we
• 23:17
  have you, we have Kayla, both of you are super experienced when
• 23:21
  it comes to actually making content that people respond to.
• 23:24
  And so I think when you have a group of pros and a group of
• 23:28
  content creators in the same group, there's so much that we
• 23:30
  can learn from each other in that when it comes to the
• 23:33
  shooting side of things and when it comes to the content side of
• 23:35
  things. So that in the end, I mean, Lee
• 23:37
  brought up Paige, she does, she's a fantastic example of
• 23:40
  somebody that does both extremely well.
• 23:42
  And so I think that as we all become more experienced in this
• 23:45
  space with each of our different roles, in a way, I think that
• 23:49
  there's so much to learn from each other, so we can keep
• 23:51
  bettering ourselves in each category, if that makes sense.
• 23:55
  Very solid, very solid answer, very thorough.
• 23:59
  You have any questions? I got a few but if you have any
• 24:02
  you go pop them, pop them to. We're not like also an interview
• 24:06
  pod. We just have conversations.
• 24:08
  But I feel like the questions are going good, so I say we keep
• 24:12
  them rolling if you haven't. No, well, just like to you know,
• 24:15
  to sum up both of what they said, like you said, there's
• 24:18
  nothing wrong with either aspect.
• 24:21
  And like, you know, they're, there are companies that, you
• 24:25
  know, like the boat companies themselves that have R&D rooms.
• 24:28
  So like there are some companies that have a part of their R&D
• 24:31
  rooms that are not filmable or seeable by the public, you know,
• 24:35
  and that's an OK thing because they're like, it still is a
• 24:38
  competitive world. Like you're still, you're a pro,
• 24:42
  you're doing it for money, you're doing it for a living.
• 24:44
  You know, like if you gave away every secret to everybody to
• 24:48
  give them a tip on how to better yourself.
• 24:49
  Like now, now you may not be winning because that person who
• 24:53
  took the tip is. So it makes complete sense.
• 24:56
  But I think in a way, we're in a sport that is so tied to
• 25:03
  something that can eventually potentially disappear that
• 25:07
  whether you're a target Archer or a hunter, both use the same,
• 25:11
  you know, different type of equipment, but the same
• 25:14
  companies that make the equipment.
• 25:16
  And the more people that are involved, the better that
• 25:20
  community can possibly be and not disappear or dwindle away,
• 25:24
  which then in lieu again, does not allow hunting to disappear
• 25:28
  because that's more people that are going to get in there and
• 25:30
  vote. But it it's also from like a, a
• 25:34
  safety and fun aspect that like, I think when pros do post stuff,
• 25:40
  like he said that comment that came across YouTube earlier
• 25:42
  today, when pros do post stuff, even if it's just general stuff
• 25:46
  like you're winning and like that laugh with the high 5, you
• 25:49
  know, like it shows that even everything is not serious.
• 25:54
  Like you can have fun. So even if you come to reading
• 25:57
  and you are not a pro, that'll be me next year.
• 25:59
  I'll be in that little amateur class.
• 26:02
  You can still have fun doing it. And like you can compare your
• 26:05
  scores to the group of people that you come with.
• 26:07
  You know, like you don't have to compare your score to the pro
• 26:10
  and say, oh, I suck, you know, like it just teaches people that
• 26:15
  like you can still have a good time.
• 26:17
  You can still come out here. You can still learn from the
• 26:20
  pros though. Like there's this respect level
• 26:23
  of like that. They're different, but it's
• 26:25
  still all the same. And like literally the name of
• 26:29
  break the barrier. So it breaks a barrier that I
• 26:31
  feel like has formed between like a pro level A hunter and a
• 26:36
  fun shooter. Like they're just three separate
• 26:38
  classes that shouldn't really. They exist and they should
• 26:41
  exist, but then the wall between them shouldn't because if you
• 26:45
  don't have somebody who gives you a bow for Christmas or like
• 26:49
  a dad who's shot so you get into it at three years old, what like
• 26:55
  myself that gone in at 24, like unless you meet somebody, which
• 27:02
  luckily I did, who was allowed me to get into it.
• 27:05
  How do you find out? You know, how do you, you know,
• 27:07
  learn something and how do you decide if it's something you
• 27:10
  want to even try if you don't get to see stuff out there?
• 27:14
  So I think always a little bit of content at least is a good
• 27:17
  thing. And then, you know, keep, keep,
• 27:22
  keep the secrets though you know, don't give the secrets,
• 27:25
  so. To keep some.
• 27:27
  I did have a funny question though from earlier when we were
• 27:29
  talking about like the the morale of the group.
• 27:32
  Have you ever shot with a group that you were just like, this is
• 27:37
  like I was trying to come up with two letters that started
• 27:39
  the same, but like a Downer Betty that was just like.
• 27:43
  Debbie Downer. That's the word I was trying to
• 27:45
  come up with. Jeez, I don't know why I had
• 27:46
  D&B, but a Debbie Downer that just, you know, brought down the
• 27:53
  mood and then it's all you're thinking about when you draw the
• 27:55
  bow back. I think.
• 27:57
  I have. Oh yeah, I have before, yeah.
• 28:00
  I mean, I would say for the most part, I've been very, very
• 28:03
  fortunate with the people that I've been able to shoot with.
• 28:07
  I also think that it's a little bit of a superpower to be able
• 28:13
  to recognize when you're shooting with somebody like that
• 28:17
  and to be able to kind of create that force field around yourself
• 28:20
  that allows you to stay pretty unaffected.
• 28:23
  That is. By that, I think that that's
• 28:24
  something that, you know, inevitably, you know, you spend
• 28:28
  enough years doing something like this and you're going to
• 28:32
  run into people like that because they're out there.
• 28:34
  Although I would say that's not the case for the most part, at
• 28:37
  least in my own experience. But when you are around somebody
• 28:41
  like that, having the ability to maintain your own morale and
• 28:46
  maintain your own energy and realize that the energy that
• 28:49
  they are projecting has everything to do with them and
• 28:52
  has nothing to do with you is something that for me is really
• 28:56
  helpful in terms of not letting myself.
• 28:58
  Like I've never, even when I have shot with people like that,
• 29:01
  it's never gotten to a point where I'm thinking about it.
• 29:05
  Like to use your words, I'm thinking about every time I draw
• 29:07
  the boat back because I'm not letting they don't get to have
• 29:10
  that power over me. I have my own like I have my own
• 29:14
  power in my in my self, in my belief in my ability to maintain
• 29:20
  my own sense of morale and create my own joy in it.
• 29:24
  Yeah. Yeah, solid.
• 29:26
  Yeah, so let me add on to Bella because she is just a little
• 29:30
  bundle of joy all the time. So yeah, every time I get a shoe
• 29:34
  with her, it is a blast and I have so much fun.
• 29:38
  But I also feel like maturity levels between the youth
• 29:42
  classes, the young adult classes and the pro class are huge.
• 29:48
  I could not have been more relieved when I left the young
• 29:53
  adult class to go to the pro class and actually enjoy
• 29:56
  shooting my bow. It was so much drama and so much
• 30:00
  yippity yapping behind the line that it just drove me nuts.
• 30:05
  And so I think that whenever I went to the Pro class, I, I have
• 30:08
  not had a problem since. And so I think maturity level is
• 30:12
  huge in that. But Bella's the little bundle of
• 30:14
  joy in the group all the time. She is.
• 30:16
  We're kind of battling for that title to, you know, this.
• 30:19
  Weekend. Yeah, you and I are both
• 30:21
  cheerleaders for. The team cheer team captains.
• 30:23
  Yeah, yeah. So you've been a pro for four
• 30:28
  years and you said 3? So do y'all both do it for your
• 30:33
  full time job or do you do other things as well?
• 30:37
  So I am currently a student in college but the goal is to I.
• 30:43
  I would love to shoe my bow for a living but I don't think many
• 30:46
  people make it in that field. But I would love to do something
• 30:51
  with the hunting industry and not the archery industry.
• 30:53
  I just haven't made it that far yet.
• 30:57
  I just graduated college and so for a while, between shooting in
• 31:01
  school and then working part time at the archery shop, that
• 31:04
  was that was a gig. And so now that I'm not in
• 31:08
  school anymore, I am working still at the archery shop, which
• 31:12
  I love every single day. And I'm also working at a
• 31:14
  restaurant, which I have a great time with.
• 31:17
  I love it so much, and so I think that it's nice.
• 31:21
  Also, for me, I'm somebody that can't necessarily be 100%
• 31:26
  fixated on archery all the time. I have to have some variety.
• 31:30
  I'm a big outdoorsy gal and so anytime I get to do anything in
• 31:33
  the outdoors, I'm living and loving it.
• 31:36
  And so I while I know the archery is always going to be a
• 31:41
  part of my life in some capacity, I would love to always
• 31:45
  have it make sure that I'm coupling it with something else
• 31:48
  that brings me just as much joy that isn't necessarily tied to
• 31:52
  it. Because I can see how in I can
• 31:57
  see how if it is kind of your one and only, whether it's a
• 32:00
  source of income or whether it's just kind of, you know, the, the
• 32:03
  through line for everything. I think maintaining the joy in
• 32:07
  it is so important to me. And I can see how those
• 32:09
  different types of pressures that come with that would
• 32:12
  potentially bring that level of joy, not necessarily to, you
• 32:17
  know, not not make it disappear in any way, but I think it would
• 32:21
  add an element to it that wouldn't yes, that wouldn't, it
• 32:24
  wouldn't come from the same place.
• 32:27
  And so for me, I see it, like I said, being a part of my life
• 32:31
  always, but I like that variety. I have to have some something in
• 32:35
  the mix also just to for my own sanity in a way.
• 32:39
  That's a pro move because I was AI was a pro bike rider from
• 32:46
  like 2010 to 2013 and biking was everything, you know, I had done
• 32:50
  it forever. That was where I made all my
• 32:52
  money, which was not a lot at the time, but nonetheless,
• 32:56
  eventually I grew a huge disdain for bikes and never wanted to
• 33:00
  bike, you know, ever. And I, when I retired from bike
• 33:04
  riding, I told all my sponsors, I said I'm done.
• 33:07
  We don't have to renew my contracts.
• 33:08
  I'm not riding anymore. And I literally did not touch a
• 33:11
  bike for probably six years. And then now I've ridden a
• 33:14
  couple of times and I love biking now.
• 33:17
  I still don't do it a whole lot, but I like have the desire to
• 33:20
  want to ride and I think that can happen.
• 33:23
  And one of the ways we're blessed with doing content like
• 33:25
  we do now. So you get to do a lot of
• 33:27
  different stuff. You know, it's all Archer
• 33:29
  related, but we dip into so many different bags that like it
• 33:33
  could be hunting, it could be Vegas, it could be this, it
• 33:37
  could be whatever. It could be trap.
• 33:41
  I might do a you're doing trap, you know, who knows?
• 33:44
  So I think the fact that I can stay in the niche, but have so
• 33:48
  many different pockets, whereas like when I was bike riding, it
• 33:51
  was only freestyle biking, like only doing tricks over big jumps
• 33:56
  and risk an injury. And that's not really a thing
• 33:59
  with archery as much. But nonetheless, like, I know
• 34:01
  what you're saying, it can be overbearing if that's all you're
• 34:04
  ever doing, all you're ever thinking about, especially if
• 34:07
  you start to do poorly or something and you're losing a
• 34:09
  sponsorship like every year or when we renew contracts.
• 34:13
  I'm so nervous, you know, and thankfully we, we haven't had
• 34:17
  any issues, but it's like a brand could just lose budget or
• 34:20
  something and it's like you're sort of cooked or whatever.
• 34:23
  So it is stressful. And I think it's good to have
• 34:25
  your eggs and and and multiple battery baskets that you enjoy
• 34:28
  like you said. Gives you freedom, and with
• 34:30
  freedom comes choices, and with choices comes Peace of Mind.
• 34:33
  So. She reads books.
• 34:35
  Guaranteed she reads books. Yes, I.
• 34:37
  Feel like they're both this like very much so like I think maybe
• 34:41
  somewhere along the line your families are related or
• 34:44
  something I feel like. Do you read motivational books?
• 34:46
  Do you like those? I I can dip into the self help
• 34:50
  board a little bit. The book I One Reason like OK,
• 34:53
  You Are a Badass by Jen Sanchero is the single book that I think
• 34:58
  every human being on this planet should read at some point in
• 35:01
  their life. That book is phenomenal.
• 35:04
  I'm going to put it on my list. It's amazing.
• 35:06
  I love. She, she tells you how to get
• 35:09
  the good stuff, man. And it works.
• 35:12
  It's crazy. So those kinds of things light
• 35:15
  my, light me up. Also speaking on the the the
• 35:19
  stuff that light puts a battery in your back.
• 35:21
  Listen to the Big Deal podcast with my girl Cody Sanchez.
• 35:26
  Fire. You're going to be motivated
• 35:28
  when you play. The only podcast I am able to
• 35:32
  make it through other than the ones I have to edit for people.
• 35:34
  Yeah, it is. She is.
• 35:37
  She comes with bars. She does.
• 35:39
  She's got heaters. The books, though, I just James
• 35:43
  read some and they're like, oh, this is a heater line will be
• 35:46
  laid in bed and I'm reading over there and it was I got to read
• 35:48
  it to you. I'm like, it sounds like you
• 35:51
  just quoted me something out of old scripture Testament out of
• 35:55
  Genesis or something. I'm like, who gets excited for?
• 35:59
  Do you like audiobooks? I do.
• 36:01
  I do, but I'm more of a I'm more of a fictional or historical
• 36:05
  reader. Outside of that, the the
• 36:08
  nonfiction, unless it's based on World War Two or something, I'm
• 36:14
  I'm out usually. I love the turn in the spot to
• 36:17
  talk. About.
• 36:18
  Book club and podcast. Book club going over here.
• 36:20
  What's everyone's favorite podcast?
• 36:22
  Let's go around the horn We already know is yours.
• 36:24
  Big deal with Cody. Sanders.
• 36:25
  Yeah, probably be it. Yeah, right now that's mine as
• 36:27
  well. What about you guys?
• 36:29
  Favorite podcast right now? Do we have one?
• 36:32
  Any genre. I'll be honest with you, don't
• 36:35
  listen to podcasts, books, or. Read them so.
• 36:40
  Music is my go to OK. Give me give me your give me
• 36:43
  your top top three bands all time from 3rd to 1st or artists.
• 36:47
  They don't have to be a. Question to.
• 36:48
  See what this is going to be? Yeah, she is young.
• 36:50
  So I'm, I'm, are we going to have 6-9 in here or what?
• 36:53
  I'm I'm with the ACDC, deaf tones, older music and probably,
• 37:04
  probably a good old Zach Bryan. OK, Rock.
• 37:09
  On I like Zach Bryan Alright, alright, let what do you got?
• 37:12
  Top three, 3rd to 1st. Pot OK, I'm gonna start the
• 37:15
  podcast 'cause I. Oh yeah, yeah, we, we can't
• 37:17
  glance over that. Yeah, I.
• 37:20
  In general, the podcast I've listened to the most is probably
• 37:23
  Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard.
• 37:25
  It's a cool, it's a cool bunch. They they have on, yes, people
• 37:30
  in pop culture, but they also have on experts in the field of
• 37:33
  everything A-Z. It could be from astrophysics to
• 37:37
  zoology, quite literally A-Z, like anything.
• 37:40
  And so you have these people that are really, really educated
• 37:42
  and really, really good at what they do.
• 37:43
  Come on. And just you get to learn a lot.
• 37:44
  And it's so I think it's really fun.
• 37:46
  They do it. They're funny, they're great.
• 37:48
  Yeah, bands, music that is so all over the place.
• 37:54
  Like it is everything from like some salsa, like some Latin
• 37:58
  American, like I can get down with something like that.
• 38:01
  Exactly, exactly, exactly. Bole, Bole.
• 38:03
  Don't worry, I've. Introduced her to the Indian
• 38:06
  music. Yes, I can get down with music
• 38:08
  from anywhere by anybody, or I can swing totally out of the
• 38:12
  direction and can, I don't know, I can get down with some Tash
• 38:15
  Sultana. If y'all haven't checked out
• 38:17
  Tash Sultana, I have not. She's from Australia.
• 38:20
  She rocks on. She's kind of like a little bit
• 38:23
  of an indie artist, but she can play basically every instrument
• 38:26
  of the sun and she creates her own songs by using a loop pedal.
• 38:29
  And so she loops those loops, those different instruments to
• 38:34
  build her own songs, and she can shred and she has an amazing
• 38:37
  voice. She's great.
• 38:39
  Damn, Yeah, OK, cool. Well, they're putting up the
• 38:41
  podium back here, so I. Didn't go watch Tate too but.
• 38:45
  I don't know how he did. I'm so curious to hear how Tate
• 38:48
  did. Shout out to Tate, he was 2 down
• 38:50
  all weekend. I don't think they think he's.
• 38:51
  Oh, OK, we're going to get. To watch for a second, yeah.
• 38:53
  He's tied for a second. That's my guy.
• 38:55
  So yeah, excited to see, but I appreciate both of you.
• 38:59
  I'm I'm really proud of what you're doing and I was super
• 39:01
  impressed with both your shooting this weekend.
• 39:03
  So thank you. I'm excited for next year.
• 39:06
  We'll do it. Again.
• 39:08
  I didn't shoot the bow. It's still, you know, it's still
• 39:10
  here. Well, she got it.
• 39:11
  There you go. It is still here.
• 39:12
  To find a bail somewhere and just like walk over there.
• 39:16
  Absolutely. I mostly just see if I can even
• 39:18
  draw it because. We can go to the practice range.
• 39:20
  Maybe. We'll go there.
• 39:21
  We're gonna go have Brianna shoot Leanne Bow.
• 39:23
  But yeah, like I said, I appreciate you guys.
• 39:27
  Everyone go check them out. I'm have their socials down
• 39:29
  below and they're also in the videos throughout the weekend.
• 39:33
  So thank you guys keep crushing it.
• 39:35
  We're we're, we're definitely fans now and are going to be
• 39:38
  rooting for y'all moving forward.
• 39:40
  Yes, right back at ya. Thank you.
• 39:41
  Thank you. Good shooting this weekend too.
• 39:43
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